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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 2: All right, here we go, week nine, nearly in the books,

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Speaker 2: and it's time for another episode of Move the Sticks.

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Speaker 2: What's up everybody? Red Lewis back here with Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 2: as our guy. Daniel Jeremiah on the road with the

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Speaker 2: LA Chargers getting set for Monday Night football with the

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Speaker 2: Chargers in the Jets from Metlive Stadium. Bucky, I'll tell you, man,

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Speaker 2: you know I'm sitting here getting ready for Game Day Live.

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Speaker 2: You know what You've been a part of here, Game

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Speaker 2: zone coverage all day long on National Network. And I'm like,

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Speaker 2: in this window, this is week nine, in this window

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Speaker 2: of early games seven, I'm gonna see four new starting quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: And week nine, it's crazy.

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Speaker 2: The forty sixth, seventh, eighth, and ninth different starting quarterback

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Speaker 2: this year. If you think QB two doesn't matter, think again,

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Speaker 2: my good Sometimes QB three matters.

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Speaker 3: And look, we'll we'll eventually get through this. But here's

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Speaker 3: the thing that drives me crazy about the National Football

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Speaker 3: the quarterbacks we talk about in the draft, we talk

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Speaker 3: about developing them, we talk about getting them ready to

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Speaker 3: time after time, Oh, the starting quarterback got all the reps.

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Speaker 3: The backup quarterback didn't get any reps. And so RTT

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Speaker 3: You're sitting here talking about we're up to forty nine

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks that are playing. Yeah, but we're not getting the

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Speaker 3: And I think about Josh Dobbs, who, wow, doesn't know

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Speaker 3: It is crazy to me. At some point, I just

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Speaker 1: Because boy, you got to get the backup some some reps.

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Speaker 1: Just can we borrow your squad? Can you guys just

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Speaker 1: With your defense and we'll just let him see things,

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Speaker 1: it was like dud but such as the NFL greatest

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Speaker 1: reality show on television. So let's dive right into your

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Speaker 1: Bucky with the first one, and that's the Bucks in Texans.

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Speaker 2: So you know that I am a c. J. Stroud

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Speaker 2: a great job when you bring all that, but this

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Speaker 2: Now we've showed just some of the beautiful throws we've

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Speaker 3: You know, Red like going all the way back to

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Speaker 2: But you know what, the fact that I'm hearing now

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, that is. That is the lesson when

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Speaker 2: All right, let's move on, boy. Was was the marquee

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Speaker 2: Well, and let's also while ratt it, give some credit

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Speaker 3: No, they're they're not good enough to get there yet. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And I am not one of those people that thinks

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Speaker 3: to anybody and everybody, he has that extra factor of

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Speaker 3: the athleticism to pick up first downs. And the great

432
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,680
Speaker 3: thing about what we call these athletic quarterbacks it's not

433
00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,119
Speaker 3: necessarily that they're running all the time, but man, when

434
00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 3: you can pick up two or three extra first downs

435
00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:49,000
Speaker 3: on scrambles and improvisational runs in those things, it changes

436
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,880
Speaker 3: the equation in terms of how the defense has defending.

437
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,639
Speaker 3: This Bengals team is really really good Offensively, they're beginning

438
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 3: to get together and let's tip he had to loot

439
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:02,320
Speaker 3: and a room up. Yeah, here we go. Kind of

440
00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:03,879
Speaker 3: a way to get that defense up and going. This

441
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 3: team is good, This team is on the is on

442
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 3: the rise on the client real quick.

443
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a couple of turnovers forced and the Bills, you know, again,

444
00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:12,800
Speaker 2: like I just feel like it's sometimes hard to put

445
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 2: your finger on it. With Buffalo, it's just you know,

446
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:18,639
Speaker 2: Josh Allen maybe said it best. It's like just just

447
00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,760
Speaker 2: no rhythm, you know, just could not find a rhythman.

448
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:24,159
Speaker 2: In order to win games, you have to first not

449
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,680
Speaker 2: lose them, and and right now they they do have

450
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 2: some critical mistakes that end up costing them, but you

451
00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 2: never count them out because Josh Allen can obviously do

452
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,480
Speaker 2: it all and he's proven you know, many times. But

453
00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:39,520
Speaker 2: but it definitely is frustrating when you know your your

454
00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,320
Speaker 2: team as talented as the Bills and you can only

455
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,600
Speaker 2: put up eighteen points in a big spot like that.

456
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: And by the way, as we look here and talking

457
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Speaker 2: about the Bengals, guess who's sitting in the seventh seed

458
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 2: in the AFC right now if the playoffs are a

459
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Speaker 2: start today, Yeah, the Cincinnati Bengals, and every team in

460
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Speaker 2: the AFC North is also in the playoff structure. It

461
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 2: goes seven Bengals six Browns, five Steelers. Everybody up there

462
00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,640
Speaker 2: looking at the Chiefs at one with the Ravens leading

463
00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:10,440
Speaker 2: the division at seven to two, And we'll get more

464
00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,959
Speaker 2: on that game coming up here in just a little bit.

465
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Speaker 2: We're also going to talk about a team and we'll

466
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Speaker 2: move into the NFC Conference where there is currently a

467
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Speaker 2: team sitting in seventh place that is now onto their

468
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Speaker 2: third quarterback. The Minnesota Vikings are in the playoff structure

469
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Speaker 2: right now behind the play of Josh Dobbs. We'll get

470
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Speaker 2: into it next here. I'll move the sticks, all right,

471
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Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, move the sticks. Rolling on Red Lewis,

472
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: Bucky Brooks as DJ is off in transit to MetLife

473
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Speaker 2: Stadium as he's going to get set for the call

474
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: of the Chargers in Jets on Monday night. So we're

475
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Speaker 2: going to take a look now at another one of

476
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Speaker 2: the dramatic games from the early window of your Week

477
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Speaker 2: nine Sunday, which was the Minnesota Vikings finding a way

478
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:05,239
Speaker 2: to get it done against the Atlanta Falcons. Oh, by

479
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,560
Speaker 2: the way, I hate to start this with negativity, but

480
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,879
Speaker 2: Kevin O'Connell just announced that Cam Akers is out with

481
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:16,160
Speaker 2: him Achilles. Oh, the rest now second one for Kim

482
00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 2: Nakers is to hate that for him. So Alexander Madison

483
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:24,359
Speaker 2: throws Stephen More into the spotlight. Now, But you know what,

484
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 2: that's the theme of this game and maybe of this

485
00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: year for the Vikings. Who's going to step up? Started

486
00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 2: with Justin Jefferson going down right, and guess who starts

487
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,320
Speaker 2: shining is the rookie Jordan Addison who did again in

488
00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 2: this game. Jordan Addison, you know, continues to play well.

489
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 2: Five catches fifty two yards, had a big one down

490
00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,639
Speaker 2: the stretch in this game where he was able to

491
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,119
Speaker 2: have this phenomenal body control to stay in bounce on

492
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Speaker 2: the sideline. And then you have obviously Kirk Cousins goes

493
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Speaker 2: down last week, Jaren Hall steps into play. Jaren Hall

494
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,720
Speaker 2: starts this game, becomes the ninth rookie quarterback to start

495
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Speaker 2: a game this year, which I think is like the

496
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 2: most we've had in some time. So the ninth rookie quarterback,

497
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 2: Jared All he lasts about a quarter and that he

498
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 2: goes down with a concussion. So who do they bring in?

499
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Speaker 2: Bucky you started last week for the Cardinals. Well, and

500
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:20,159
Speaker 2: we talked about it at the top. It's the thing

501
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,480
Speaker 2: that I am really curious about, and I hope somebody

502
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 2: gets to ask Kevin O'Connell about this. But what were

503
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Speaker 2: the I wonder what that one sided conversation was like

504
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,879
Speaker 2: in Josh Dobbs's ear in that earpiece, because there's no

505
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Speaker 2: way that he is that comfortable four days into the

506
00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: playbook to run thirty pass plays. He threw it thirty

507
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 2: times in this game. Yeah, So like, is Kevin O'Connell

508
00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 2: in there, like, Hey, this is the play but this

509
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 2: is what I need you to focus on. This is

510
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: essentially the concept. This is what we're trying to get.

511
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: This is what we're trying to work on. So like,

512
00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 2: tell everybody the place. Everybody else knows what's going on,

513
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:00,640
Speaker 2: and then this is what you need to worry about.

514
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: Like do you think some of that is going on

515
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 2: in his helmet or are you trying to stay out

516
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,960
Speaker 2: of his own to not cloud what's already a brain

517
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,119
Speaker 2: that's probably going crazy.

518
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Speaker 3: You know. I think what they what they did, and

519
00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:15,080
Speaker 3: obviously Kevin O'Connell talked about this a little bit afterwards.

520
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 3: They went up tempo so they can get them to

521
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Speaker 3: the line of scrimmage, and it allowed Kevin O'Connell to

522
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 3: kind of walk him through the concepts. A look right

523
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 3: to left, you drop, here's what you should be thinking,

524
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 3: all those other things. Look, it's a great thing, the

525
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 3: benefit that Kevin O'Connell had and working with Sean McVay.

526
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Speaker 3: He watched how Sean McVay utilized the headset and the

527
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Speaker 3: mechanics to help Jerry Goff that first season when they

528
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Speaker 3: were all together with the Rams. He took a page

529
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Speaker 3: out of that playbook. It worked. And because Josh Doles

530
00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 3: we know it man. Everyone talks about like how smarty

531
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:50,280
Speaker 3: he is and all those things. He has proven the

532
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 3: value in a good backup, a smart backup who's a

533
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 3: quick study to go from where you're in Cleveland, the Arizona, Arizona,

534
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,400
Speaker 3: the Minnesota and he's done this time again. Last year

535
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Speaker 3: he did it from Cleveland to Tennessee and started in

536
00:26:01,920 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 3: the game in less than a week. He knows how

537
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,720
Speaker 3: to do it. But for them to be able to

538
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:11,080
Speaker 3: use the helmet communication device to lean on his experience

539
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: as a guy who's been around the league seven eight

540
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,399
Speaker 3: years to put him in a position to do it,

541
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Speaker 3: it's great. And the Minister of Vikers are going to

542
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,720
Speaker 3: have a chance to kind of backdoor into the playoffs,

543
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 3: because if he stays healthy, he is going to give

544
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Speaker 3: them a chance not only with his athleticism, but with

545
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Speaker 3: his smarts, his awareness and that experience. He's going to

546
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Speaker 3: give them a chance to win games and be in

547
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Speaker 3: the mix.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, it's it's incredible, it really is. And

549
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Speaker 2: I think, you know, Josh Dobbson is essentially the modern

550
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 2: day Josh Johnson. Yeah, you know, who could come in

551
00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 2: on a whim, you know, and either be your backup

552
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: or or get in and try to figure it out.

553
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,399
Speaker 2: You know, if he has to go and go in

554
00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:50,000
Speaker 2: and play and look the guy started you know what

555
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 2: was it the Meames for the Cardinals. Yeah, and now

556
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:54,680
Speaker 2: comes in and he's ready to rock and roll for

557
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: the Vikings on essentially four days of prep. Again, it's

558
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,440
Speaker 2: it's pretty it's pretty dangle. And you know, I think

559
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 2: he Josh dobbs talked about it as like you're prepared

560
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 2: to go, you know, take a test in Spanish and

561
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: then you show up and it's in French.

562
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Speaker 3: He's a Spanish for like the hardest level of Spanish

563
00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 3: and then taking an ap French course. My good. I

564
00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 3: mean even his jokes are highly academic.

565
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: Right right, right right.

566
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Speaker 3: That's it just speaks to how tough it is to

567
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: kind of jump in this situation. Five days in, he's

568
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: ready to play, and give him credit for being a

569
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 3: professional being able to do it. And he talked about

570
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,280
Speaker 3: what he learned from Mike Thiland that no one cares

571
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 3: about your circumstances. They care how you pray. Love that part,

572
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 3: and he was able to do it. He's grizzled, he's hard.

573
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 3: I do know this. Josh Dobbs will play another seven

574
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 3: or eight years in the league based on just what

575
00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:55,199
Speaker 3: he's been able to do this year between the calendar

576
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 3: year from what he did at Tennessee to what he

577
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: did at Arizona to Minnesota. He will be the first

578
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: backup on call. Congratulations, you are going to make thirty

579
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,440
Speaker 3: million dollarsands a backup quarterback just hanging around the league.

580
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, if he wants to, I mean like, if he

581
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: doesn't want to go, you know, build a rocket, then yeah,

582
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,400
Speaker 2: you can go continue to build up a team's roster quarterback.

583
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Speaker 2: It's it's incredible and my hat is off to him. Man,

584
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 2: the amount of mental exhaustion that he has had to

585
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 2: work through this year again, going from the Browns to

586
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,919
Speaker 2: the Cardinals, now the Cardinals of the Vikings back up

587
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,399
Speaker 2: to starter on so many different times. I think is

588
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 2: just to be commended. And remember like this guy who

589
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,359
Speaker 2: bounced around, you know, as like a third string quarterback

590
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,200
Speaker 2: for the first like five years of his career, you know,

591
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,080
Speaker 2: with the Steelers and the Jaguars and the Browns and

592
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400
Speaker 2: back to the Steelers, into the Browns into the time.

593
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean, it's again, it's incredible. So hats off to him.

594
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 2: And the Vikings are now the seventh seed in the

595
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,800
Speaker 2: NFC playoff picture incredible and maybe Justin Jefferson is on

596
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 2: his way back now, so we'll see on that one.

597
00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 2: All right, Let's move to the Manderson Patriots. This is

598
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: a game, Bucky that the Patriots were down big early,

599
00:29:08,360 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 2: scored I think fourteen unanswered to take the lead and

600
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: then still end up losing to the Commanders. How'd you

601
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 2: end up seeing this one?

602
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: Okay? So look, and I know that the last two

603
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 3: years I should be better prepared when it comes to

604
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 3: looking at the Patriots fall short. But it's so odd

605
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,320
Speaker 3: over the last twenty years, seeing how the Patriots are

606
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920
Speaker 3: losing these games. And I know people have tried to

607
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 3: make the debate between Tom Brady Bill Belichick, who's responssible

608
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,959
Speaker 3: to think, But for me, when I looked at the Patriots,

609
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 3: the Patriots won a lot of games because they just

610
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,320
Speaker 3: didn't lose, and the fact that they are now losing

611
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: these games because it always felt like in a close

612
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 3: gan to the Patriots find a way to win. They

613
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: haven't been able to find a way to win. Some

614
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 3: of that is personnel driven. Some of that is the

615
00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 3: quarterback that they have is not quite as magical as

616
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,680
Speaker 3: the one that they had previously or whatever. But look,

617
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 3: I can't get it. They're not a very talented team,

618
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,760
Speaker 3: but they do just enough to hang around, but they

619
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 3: can't get it done. And I'd look at as mind boggling.

620
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about when he finished his career,

621
00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:09,880
Speaker 3: Bill Belichick will be celebrated as the greatest coach of

622
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 3: all time when it comes to the National Football League

623
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,920
Speaker 3: with the wins and all the other stuff. But watching

624
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,960
Speaker 3: him or so much into this team and this team

625
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:21,960
Speaker 3: give him little in return when it comes to the victories.

626
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Speaker 3: It's really interesting to watch this team kind of just

627
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 3: fall apart.

628
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Speaker 2: Well, here's the other piece of it. I don't know

629
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Speaker 2: if you saw the news conference today, but he's answering

630
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 2: questions about whether he feels like he's coaching for his

631
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: job this week. Yeah, you've got Boston media personalities trying

632
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: to read the lips of Jonathan and Bob Kraft up

633
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: in the box, like what are they talking about?

634
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:50,440
Speaker 3: What are they saying?

635
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 2: Is it related to Belichick?

636
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:52,680
Speaker 3: Oh? I hear I say.

637
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: It looks like he says, you know, we're just not

638
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: good enough, which is true. I mean that part of

639
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: it is true. They are not good enough to compete

640
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 2: in the EFC East right now and to be a

641
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 2: playoff contender and to hold themselves to that extraordinarily high

642
00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: standard that they themselves set, you know, the better part

643
00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: of the last two decades. So it does like the

644
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 2: benefit of the doubt thing. I think is really interesting

645
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: with Belichick in New England because like, how much, how

646
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,000
Speaker 2: much creat what have you done for me lately?

647
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Speaker 3: League?

648
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 2: We all know that, and what they've done lately has

649
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,800
Speaker 2: not been great, But they also had twenty years of

650
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 2: the best football this league has ever seen. It's so

651
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: with you know, like balancing the benefit of the doubt

652
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 2: thing with Belichick is it is tough.

653
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: It is such a such a weird thing. And I've

654
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 3: made this comparison. I've written about it. It reminds me

655
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: of Greg Popovich and the San Antonio Spurs. Yeah, okay,

656
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 3: so when Greg Popovich and the Spurs they went and

657
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 3: added three Hall of Famers Manu, Tony Parker, Tim Duck

658
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 3: and man, they're winning. They went five titles. Everything is great.

659
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 3: He celebrated his best coach. Whatever. Those guys exit stage right, Man,

660
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 3: they fall apart, they're down at the bottom. You just

661
00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 3: don't know. But he gets to benefit the doubt. He

662
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,000
Speaker 3: gets to grace to do it lor and behow win

663
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 3: be comes and now the Spurs are back and now

664
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 3: he's the greatest back. So so the thing will be

665
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 3: for Robert Kraft. Can he pull himself out of the

666
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 3: emotional part that he's in where he's looking at his

667
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 3: franchise like, man, we're down at the bottom of the standings.

668
00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 3: We're not getting these wins. We had twenty years success.

669
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: So I'm so sport of always kind of being the team.

670
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 3: But does he believe in Bill Belichick, the coach who

671
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: also brought you those six titles? Because if you believe

672
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 3: in them. Did you exhibit enough patience to let him

673
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 3: work through it? Because all the great franchises that have

674
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 3: five to six titles San Francisco forty nine is to

675
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 3: endure their fair share of slumps. The Pittsburgh Steelers have

676
00:32:44,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: had some ups and downs. When it comes to it,

677
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 3: this craft have the whereverthal to stay patient with Bill Belichick.

678
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 3: And the other thing was this, Okay, if you dump him,

679
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 3: who then right right?

680
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 2: You're right because the dr know on staff is it

681
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: you want to complete break from everything. I don't know.

682
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm there yet on on trying

683
00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 2: to think of Belichick replacements. I just tell you, I

684
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: just I feel like there's still some left there that

685
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: will try to figure this thing out. And maybe all

686
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 2: he needs all apparently all he needs is one beyond.

687
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 3: So I guess he has to figure out he has

688
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 3: to figure out a way to get one.

689
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 2: They keep going down this path. Caleb Williams will be

690
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 2: available for them, you know what I mean. I mean

691
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: they've got two wins right now. You spend some time

692
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 2: in Boston, do you think that Caleb Williams would be

693
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 2: a great fit in Beantown? Do you think the Boston

694
00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: fans will love well.

695
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:38,480
Speaker 3: Winning.

696
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 2: Winning is a good fit in Boston, and I feel like,

697
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: above all else, they figure out a way to embrace

698
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: uh Caleb because he is a winner outside of the

699
00:33:51,760 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 2: last few weeks at USC although I don't know that

700
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: that's all his fault, but that is a podcast for

701
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 2: another day. Let's move to the Ravens and the Seahawks

702
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:07,200
Speaker 2: briefly here because this was just an absolute dud. Credit

703
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 2: to the Ravens defense. They are playing like the early

704
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: two thousands Ravens defense, Like that's what they're that's the

705
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: way they're playing right now. I think they allow some

706
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 2: of the fewest yards per play. Jenevian Clowney has given

707
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: him a real nice boost. Kyle van Noy has been

708
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: a terrific pickup. Credit Eric Tacosta for what he's done

709
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 2: kickups in season the last couple of years, justin Houston,

710
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,400
Speaker 2: you know, a year ago, gave him a nice boost.

711
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: You know, he found a way to find some guys

712
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 2: when all the running backs were down. They found a

713
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 2: way to stay afloat. And that's kind of been the

714
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: case again this year, and low and behold, they found

715
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 2: another one. East Carolina's Keaton Mitchell, undrafted free agent who

716
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 2: by the way, I was looking at this because I

717
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 2: was like, we're we're the one. We didn't talk about

718
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: this guy at all last year in the draft process,

719
00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:58,080
Speaker 2: and look, comes from East Carolina. You know, a teammate,

720
00:34:58,200 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 2: you know, is a group of five team doesn't you

721
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,320
Speaker 2: know win in the national stage very often. But this

722
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,640
Speaker 2: is a guy who had two hundred carries last year

723
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:11,279
Speaker 2: for the Pirates, an average seven yards of pop. So

724
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: like again, you know, this kind of relates back to

725
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 2: the conversation we're having about Stroud, like at some point,

726
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,800
Speaker 2: like if you see it, believe it right. Yeah, you

727
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:25,800
Speaker 2: understand level of competition and you understand measurables. But with

728
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,279
Speaker 2: running backs especially, doesn't production matter?

729
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 3: It does? It does matter. And it's funny we're talking

730
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 3: about East Carolina easy you as they would say where

731
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 3: I'm from, because a lot of my high school classmates

732
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: made it down to East Carolina. Ge Vegas as they

733
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,840
Speaker 3: would talk about Greenville. It's a nice, nice, fun school

734
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 3: to get some academics and a lot of partying in.

735
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 3: But they've played good football there. And so for Gidon Metscher,

736
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 3: you talked about seven seven yards of pop and we

737
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,800
Speaker 3: are at a time where we always talk about you

738
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 3: can find a running back at any level of the

739
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 3: draft and those things. And it's another example of just

740
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 3: being able to find guys wherever, and if you put

741
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 3: him in the right systems around a boy, the right players,

742
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 3: these running backs can get off nine carries one hundred

743
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 3: and thirty eight yards. Like nine carries, he is able

744
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 3: to kind of get it done and look with minimal effort.

745
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:16,319
Speaker 3: You love that, And I think what you really love

746
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 3: if you're the Baltimore Ravens and I'm gonna toss this

747
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 3: back to you. Yeah, what Mike McDonald has done with

748
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 3: this defense, I know. Look, he stepped into big shoes

749
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 3: when he was a college coach in Michigan. He went

750
00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 3: from the Ravens, took over for Don Brown, and that

751
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,799
Speaker 3: defense in Michigan, tidied it up real quick, cleaned it up,

752
00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: got them going, spends I think a year there, then

753
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 3: right back to the Baltimore Ravens as a pro decordinating

754
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 3: game couldn't be more different. But what I love about

755
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 3: him is is kind of Bill Belichickian. He takes the

756
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,800
Speaker 3: scheme and adapts it to the individual talents of the players,

757
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,120
Speaker 3: and so a guy like cal Van Noa, he'll move

758
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: him in a your stand up EDG Drusher come over

759
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,320
Speaker 3: to three technique stand up Jesavian Clowney. You're a dominant

760
00:36:58,360 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: player on the run game, but you're really good at

761
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: all stuts and loops will put you there like being

762
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 3: able to take here's my personnel. Let me figure out

763
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 3: how to put all of these individual parts in the

764
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 3: best position to make plays. And that's going to make

765
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 3: our defense better. You talked about this team playing like

766
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 3: the early two thousands. They're doing it, but they're doing

767
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 3: it in such a different fast and then we saw

768
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 3: that that epic team get it done.

769
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think we're also still in a way,

770
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 2: you know, assessing the adaptation of this offense under Todd Mulkin, Like, well,

771
00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,520
Speaker 2: were they going to run it, you know, a bunch

772
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 2: like they had in the last you know, five years,

773
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 2: or we're gonna start throwing it a little bit more. Well,

774
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 2: we've seen games kind of like you're talking about defensively

775
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,279
Speaker 2: where they have thrown it around a bunch and Lamar

776
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 2: throws for four touchdowns and finds Mark Andrews for two.

777
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 2: It's a flowers for one, and then the last couple

778
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 2: of weeks Gus Edwards has a hat trick, Keaton Mitchell

779
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 2: is going off and so I think again that they

780
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: have the ability now to morph their offense into you know,

781
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 2: things and ways in which they find to be the

782
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: most beneficial for potential success against any given opponent, which

783
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,479
Speaker 2: again is super dangerous. And there the Ravens are seven

784
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,680
Speaker 2: to two, number two seed in the AFC at this moment. Okay,

785
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: as for the Seahawks, I don't know if this is

786
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 2: to blip on the radar, but Gino didn't play particularly well.

787
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: They couldn't run the football. Again, I think most of

788
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: the credit just has to go to the Ravens.

789
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 3: Here.

790
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: You're going from Seattle to Baltimore in the early window.

791
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 2: You can make all those excuses. I know the Seahawks won't,

792
00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: but they're still a good football team and they're obviously

793
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 2: still you know, a playoff contender there, so I would

794
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 2: imagine they're better days ahead in Seattle. Let's go to

795
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: the Raiders Giants.

796
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:49,040
Speaker 3: Game raidor yeah yeah about that?

797
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: Oh and oh man, that Antonio Pierce man that that

798
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 2: scene and like that locker room afterwards and the speechy

799
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 2: and you're watching the bonte Adams is right next to him.

800
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,239
Speaker 2: Right next to him as his addressing the team after

801
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 2: the game. Man, this fell like exactly what the doctor

802
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:11,560
Speaker 2: ordered for Vegas.

803
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 3: Okay, so let me say this. Look, Ap is a

804
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 3: friend of mine, having done a bunch of different things,

805
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 3: like we have mutual friends. He was a high school

806
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:21,359
Speaker 3: coach at Long Beach Poly when I was coaching at

807
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 3: Notre Dame Truma. We never played each other, but very

808
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: familiar with him and all his people, like have worked

809
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 3: camps with them and whatever. Great dude, remember scouting him

810
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 3: when he was at University of Arizona before he made

811
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 3: his way and became look, a really solid NFL player.

812
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: You talk to people at the Giants organization when he

813
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,160
Speaker 3: was there, they always talked about him being an alpha leader,

814
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: like just a no nonsense, take charge say what needs

815
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 3: to be said, bring the energy, bring the toughness, bring

816
00:39:47,160 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: the grip. What you saw over the course of the

817
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 3: week is a snapshot of who he is and being

818
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 3: a guy that grew up in Compton, he embodies what

819
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:58,240
Speaker 3: the Raiders are about, like anyone who has been around

820
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: the Raiders organization, like having played there for like a year,

821
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 3: and some change. It is all that old mystique, all

822
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 3: about the outcast, the misfits, the Mavericks always have a

823
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 3: home there, and so for him to embrace that and

824
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,439
Speaker 3: to I would say, be completely opposite of what Josh

825
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 3: mcgannels is. And I have a ton of respect for

826
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: Josh mcganns and all those guys to come out of

827
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 3: the Patriot Way and that system, but it can be

828
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: a little negative tone when it comes to how they

829
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,799
Speaker 3: lead the team and what they harp on and those things.

830
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: And what I saw from AP leading up to the

831
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,640
Speaker 3: game and after the game, I saw a guy who

832
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 3: is a pros pro in terms of he understands the

833
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 3: pro game in terms of the people. So he gave

834
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: them what we call victory Monday. So when you win

835
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:43,239
Speaker 3: in the National Football League, some coaches say, hey, we'll

836
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: see your own Wednesday mini. They give it Monday off

837
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: and Tuesday off. Comeback, We'll practice Wednesday through Saturday and

838
00:40:49,239 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 3: get it done. That little bone, that little nugget. What

839
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 3: it does is the players are like, okay, man, this

840
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 3: guy understands the struggle. He understands it. And what I

841
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:01,720
Speaker 3: loved about AP is like exs no, It's about the players.

842
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 3: Early in the game, Josh Jacobs got the ball. They

843
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,239
Speaker 3: tried to make an effort to get the ball to

844
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: Devonte Adams. You saw a man, Look, yeah, my players

845
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 3: are better than your players. I'm gonna get it to

846
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 3: my best players and get it out the way. And

847
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 3: it worked. And we'll talk about this because we saw

848
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 3: the guy at the East West Rine game. I couldn't

849
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,239
Speaker 3: understand that. A couple of weeks ago they had an

850
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: opportunity to start a and O'Connell. They started Brian Hoyer.

851
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,280
Speaker 3: Look backfrid didn't go well. Ain't O'Connell with his experience

852
00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 3: what he did at Purdue all of us to look

853
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: to do. This is second behind Drew Brees in terms

854
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,920
Speaker 3: of fourteen three hundred yard games at Purdue. Like I mean,

855
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 3: like sometimes in the record book, those things matter. He

856
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:43,880
Speaker 3: came in. He was much better than his first start,

857
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: like it started. And even then I don't think he

858
00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 3: was at bad. He just took a bunch of sacks.

859
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 3: Yell the ball. Yeah, he was better. They operated well.

860
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:53,879
Speaker 3: There was an energy about the Raiders that we hadn't

861
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 3: seen in a long time, and so it was fun

862
00:41:57,120 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 3: to watch from the outside and ap did a great job.

863
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 3: The trick would be, can you keep it going it

864
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,719
Speaker 3: wrong and you keep it rolling after the emotion subside?

865
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 3: Can you find the tactical advantages to allow this team

866
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 3: to win? But after one week, man, it certainly feels

867
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 3: a lot different than the field when Josh mcgains was

868
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 3: in charge, no doubt.

869
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 2: And good for those players, man, you know, needing something,

870
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 2: needed some positivity and they got it in a big way,

871
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 2: you know, in the game and then.

872
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 3: After the game to enjoy it like that.

873
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 2: You should celebrate wins in the NFL because they are

874
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: dang hard to come by, and that was kind of

875
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 2: cool to see. All right, some honorable mentions here before

876
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 2: we get out of here. Browns defense. That tip my friend, Yes,

877
00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 2: you played a rookie quarterback Clayton soon Mackey's first career start,

878
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,920
Speaker 2: but you made him look like a rookie in a

879
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 2: big way. Anything from Rams Packers. Offense hard to come

880
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 2: by there for sure.

881
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, Offense hard to come by. I mean obviously with

882
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 3: the Rams, if they don't have the QB one, they

883
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 3: have a tough time kind of moving the ball. And

884
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,319
Speaker 3: you just see the lack of depth that this team

885
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 3: has when they don't have all their pieces. They just

886
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 3: can't it done. And so it showed up and it

887
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 3: is one of the things that they have to kind

888
00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 3: of figure out for the backers love Jordan Love Mason plays.

889
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,439
Speaker 3: Is they still not playing well enough to get back.

890
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: But the hope is you still got some games left.

891
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: Maybe you can kind of figure out a way to

892
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,840
Speaker 3: win some games and put yourself kind of in the tournament,

893
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 3: kind of backdoor in. We'll see. Defensively, they got enough

894
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 3: talent to get it done. The main thing they got

895
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,919
Speaker 3: to win. They can build upon it, but they still

896
00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 3: need to play much better. They got to get more

897
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 3: contribution from the running game to help the young quarterback

898
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,359
Speaker 3: out Bears.

899
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 2: And Saints in New Orleans. Look, I think that this

900
00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: last little stretch of really good play from the Saints

901
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 2: and wins, it's Taysom Hill. It's a recognition that Taysom

902
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 2: Hill is your best matchup player all over the place

903
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,879
Speaker 2: because he can play anywhere, run it, catch it, throw

904
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 2: it whatever. Has done it all in the last couple

905
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 2: of weeks. And so I think if you look back

906
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: on this season, it's the Saints going to the postseason,

907
00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:59,520
Speaker 2: It's it's Pete Carmichael in the Saints offensive staff, remembering

908
00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 2: how dat Juris Taysom Mill can be. So I thought

909
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 2: that was a big piece of this one. Call a

910
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: touchdown in this one. They win twenty four to seventeen,

911
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 2: despite Tyson Bajor playing pretty well in the first half

912
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 2: giving it away a little bit in the second. Colton

913
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:13,640
Speaker 2: Panthers Buck, how about Kenny Moore?

914
00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 3: Two pick sixes? Unbelievable? Man, talking about two pick sixes?

915
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: And you just talked about a guy who's a veteran player,

916
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,880
Speaker 3: super smart player, comes in and make some plays. He

917
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 3: does that, and I look on a day and where

918
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 3: CJS Droud goes bananas, like Bryce Young has a three

919
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 3: interception effort and he admitted that he needs to play better.

920
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 3: The thing that I'll say about the Panthers, because everyone

921
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,920
Speaker 3: in Charlotte's going to be down. They're going to wonder, like, man,

922
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,680
Speaker 3: do we have the right one or whatever. They have

923
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 3: to figure out a way to take Bryce Young and

924
00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 3: put him in the best situation when it comes to

925
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: his game and those things. We haven't quite seen that.

926
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 3: And it's so odd because there's so many quarterback whispers

927
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 3: and Google's in that building around they just haven't figured

928
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 3: out a way to get it done. And also, I

929
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 3: would say the Panthers have been hurt by the expectations.

930
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: I'll admit I thought this was a team that might

931
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: be able to make a playoff run. They're not good

932
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 3: enough to do that, and so those expectations have kind

933
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:11,400
Speaker 3: of changed the way that we look at the young quarterback.

934
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,759
Speaker 3: Young quarterbacks are gonna struggle. He has to play better,

935
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:16,200
Speaker 3: but maybe we put too much on him in this

936
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: environment to be able to get this team to the

937
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 3: winner circle.

938
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,719
Speaker 2: Fair point. So the Colts keeping themselves a live, massive win.

939
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 2: They're on the road in Carolina as they move forward.

940
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 2: All right, that's going to do it for us here

941
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 2: on this Monday recapp edition of Move the Sticks. Four

942
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 2: more episodes coming your way this week, including our video

943
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 2: show tomorrow. Not sure if DJ's gonna be with us,

944
00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 2: but Bucky and I will hold it down if need be,

945
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 2: and we will ridicule DJ for all of his terrible

946
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: rookie draft picks. As I'm closing in on the top spot.

947
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 2: It's always better to do with DJ's not a round.

948
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 2: But thanks for being here with us another episode of

949
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:54,000
Speaker 2: Move the Sticks. We will catch it later this week,