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Speaker 1: Hello, Texans, Happy weekend. It's the show that gets you

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Speaker 1: inside at RG Stadium. Texans All Access here from the

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Speaker 1: Hunday Texans Radio studio. Mark Vandomer with you with John Harris,

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Speaker 1: keeping your company. A lot to discuss tonight, always a

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Speaker 1: lot to discuss. We're going to your Texans and the

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Speaker 1: NFL at large, and what a great time to be

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Speaker 1: a sports fan with the NCAA tournament going on, and

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Speaker 1: the Astros starting up, and the Rockets heating up and

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Speaker 1: the Texans always hot, always something going on in the

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Speaker 1: world of professional football. Johnny, Here we go into a

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Speaker 1: weekend where free agency it's not behind us, it's never

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Speaker 1: quite behind us. The first waves are though, and the

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Speaker 1: draft is coming up before you know it. Yeah, it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be here. What we today, twenty ninth, less than

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Speaker 1: a month, Yeah, less than a month. Four weeks from tonight,

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Speaker 1: we'll be doing the second and third round. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: do you know the Texans will pick then? You know

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Speaker 1: what my fear is they trade back and the draft

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Speaker 1: party is this gigantic? Not let's down necessarily, but let's

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Speaker 1: be honest. You want to walk away with a pick.

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Speaker 1: If you're a fan coming to the draft party, right,

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Speaker 1: but that might mean that might be a prudent thing

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Speaker 1: to do that's never happened, to trade back and trade out.

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Speaker 1: I do think I think it's a possibility of trading back.

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Speaker 1: She wondered. Remember when they drafted Watson. We wondered that

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Speaker 1: night if they would trade out of the first and

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Speaker 1: acquire extra picks, because they've never moved up in the

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Speaker 1: first round, and well other than Fuller. But that's like

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Speaker 1: a one. I don't really I don't count that yet

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Speaker 1: too much because that's just that'red deal. What happened there

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Speaker 1: was Washington telling Rick Smith, hey, we'll take Fuller, but

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Speaker 1: we want dots. And but we'll take Fuller even though

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Speaker 1: we want ducks. And I don't get it. Yeah, I didn't.

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Speaker 1: That one's kind of because I don't think the Redskins

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Speaker 1: ever had any idea of somebody's on the phone. They

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Speaker 1: want Fuller really bad. What are you willing to give

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Speaker 1: me to just grab him right now? Yeah? I don't

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Speaker 1: it worked out because Josh Dockson has not done a

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Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot for Washington. Someone would say

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Speaker 1: that Will hasn't done much for Texans, But when he's

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Speaker 1: been on the field. He's been ultra productive and it's

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Speaker 1: been good to see, will you know, walk around a

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Speaker 1: building here because he's been doing all his rehab here.

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Speaker 1: So I just getting him on the field. But I

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Speaker 1: don't count that move up because that was the spot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, technically, yes, but when you're talking about moving up,

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen obviously was that year because you had to

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Speaker 1: go get the quarterback. So to get the quarterback, and

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Speaker 1: the move ups lately in the draft have been for quarterbacks.

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Speaker 1: I think almost all of them except for one, which

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Speaker 1: is last year. The Saints wanted Marcus Davenport, so they

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Speaker 1: gave up the twenty nineteen number one to Green Bay.

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Speaker 1: Last year, he had a couple of most he was first,

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Speaker 1: He was hurt a lot of the year. It was

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Speaker 1: interesting talking to Anthony Weaver, who coached him at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl Texas. Texas had him at the Senior Bowl,

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Speaker 1: and I remember being down because obviously with the Texans coaching,

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Speaker 1: we had access down on the field and I stood

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Speaker 1: next to him and I just looked up and went, dang.

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Speaker 1: He was sixty seven. He was all six seven two.

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Speaker 1: He was huge. He had moments. He's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: good pass rusher. I think if he can stay healthy.

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Speaker 1: He didn't stay healthy this past year, but when he

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Speaker 1: was on the field, he was pretty good. I don't

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Speaker 1: know if he was worth giving up a future first for. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but that's but look, if you're gonna if you're gonna

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Speaker 1: give up, if you're gonna give up picks to move up,

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Speaker 1: you're going to get a quarterback, a pass rusher, or

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Speaker 1: a left tackle. One and a half sacks for Davenport,

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Speaker 1: zero starts. Yeah, he was not. Yeah, I think he'll be.

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Speaker 1: He'll be the he'll be a starter this year. Just

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Speaker 1: to be a rookie of any position, pass rusher, you

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Speaker 1: rarely get guys who coming in fourteen sacks they're rookie year.

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Speaker 1: I mean, what who's gonna do that? Javon Curse the freak.

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Speaker 1: The freak he did it. I Mark. I remember at

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, I went down. He was a true

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Speaker 1: at the time. He was like two thirty and there

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Speaker 1: he's playing kind of a hybrid safety outside linebacker. And

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Speaker 1: then Stoops got a hold of him and Stoops is like, no,

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Speaker 1: gonna rush the quarterback. And then it was like that's

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Speaker 1: when he became the free But I remember when he

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Speaker 1: first got there. He was a safety at the University

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Speaker 1: of Florida, and Stoops just said, keep adding on weight,

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Speaker 1: big man, you're gonna be a rush and he was,

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Speaker 1: and he was just incredible. But he's one of the

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Speaker 1: rare guys to do it. Fourteen and a half sacks

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Speaker 1: his rookie year, he was so good, eleven and a

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Speaker 1: half his second year, his third year ten. And then

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Speaker 1: he gets hurt in two thousand and two and he's

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Speaker 1: back in two thousand and three. He never hits the

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Speaker 1: level as a pass rusher again that he had those

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Speaker 1: first three years. But he was a freak a zoid. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean, coming right out of Florida that first year

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Speaker 1: Titans went to the Super Bowl, and he was one

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Speaker 1: of the main reasons why. In nineteen ninety nine, the

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Speaker 1: Guars coming block and the Jaguars lost him three times.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars were fourteen and two, yep, and then went

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Speaker 1: one on one of the playoffs because they gotta buy.

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Speaker 1: They lost all three games to the Tennessee Titans. That's

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Speaker 1: all three, all three they lost. But Jaman Curse is

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Speaker 1: the one guy you would trade up for Jamann Curse.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a stretch last year. I remember

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Speaker 1: saying that I thought it was a stretch that they

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Speaker 1: were going up to get Marcus Davenport. But he's gonna

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Speaker 1: turn into a pretty good ball player. But now you

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Speaker 1: have to pay the price, and that is there you

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Speaker 1: you don't try. I don't think the Saints straft until

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Speaker 1: sometime late in round two, so you got some holes

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Speaker 1: to fill on that rosters. Now you don't have a

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Speaker 1: first and you're gonna kind of go through what the

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Speaker 1: Texans did because Texas did have a first or second,

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Speaker 1: didn't pick until I think sixty eight, and the Saints

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Speaker 1: are picking I think until sixty two or something like that.

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Speaker 1: So they'll be interesting to see what they do. But

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Speaker 1: the trade up situation, I could see the Texans doing

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Speaker 1: it if there is a if there's a tackle that

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Speaker 1: okay with that. And I really wouldn't even be opposed

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Speaker 1: if the corners this year of the value, Like, if

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Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsey. I don't think there isn't a Jalen Ramsey,

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Speaker 1: but I could see the Texas moving up four or

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Speaker 1: five spots to the Greedy Williams is still on the board. Though.

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Speaker 1: I got asked this question today by our good friend

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Speaker 1: Sean Pendergast. He said, Uh, let me get it here.

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Speaker 1: We kind of trade some texts. He said, um. He said,

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Speaker 1: if Greedy and Baker are both on the board, who

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Speaker 1: fits better for what the Texans want? I see Greedy

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Speaker 1: dropping in some of the some of these mocks, and

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Speaker 1: so I said to him this, I this is the

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Speaker 1: way that I compared the two. I said, Greedy is

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Speaker 1: a faster, slash thinner AJ Boyer, and I said, DeAndre

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Speaker 1: Baker is a step slower Kareem Jackson. And what I

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Speaker 1: mean by that is AJ boy When you think what

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Speaker 1: he was. He was a tough cover and I think

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Speaker 1: You saw how he could run, You saw how he

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Speaker 1: I mean, AJ would come up and tackle you, but

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Speaker 1: that wasn't a J's thing. AJ was gonna cover. AJ

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Speaker 1: was a cover guy. That's greedy. Greedy's a cover guy.

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Speaker 1: Greedy's faster than AJ, but he's a little thinner than

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Speaker 1: AJ was. DeAndre Baker is the spitting image of Kareem Jackson.

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Speaker 1: It's just that when Kreem was coming out of Alabama,

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Speaker 1: Kareem was in the four four range. DeAndre Baker's in

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Speaker 1: the four five two range or four five two I

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Speaker 1: guess that's exactly that's not a range. So I think

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Speaker 1: Baker does all the things that Kareem did. He's a

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Speaker 1: really good tackler. He's competitive out on the out on

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Speaker 1: the perimeter, but near the end for Kareem, he just

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Speaker 1: wasn't a great cover corner to a point where he

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Speaker 1: was playing safety last year, right, So DeAndre Baker sort

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Speaker 1: of strikes me that way, And then I thought about

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Speaker 1: this and this was kind of what sealed it for me. Mark,

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Speaker 1: and I think the Texans kind of went through this

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Speaker 1: when they were trying to figure out their way early

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Speaker 1: in the NFL, Like, who did the Texans have to beat?

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Speaker 1: They had to beat the Indianapolis Colts. What did you

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Speaker 1: have to do to beat the Innapolis Colts? You had

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Speaker 1: to get pressure on paidon Manning. Hence Mario Williams yea

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Speaker 1: to Miko Ryans. What do the Texans have to do

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Speaker 1: now to take the next step? Ty Hilton? Thank you?

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Speaker 1: And which of these guys covers t Y Hilton? More

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Speaker 1: likely it's gonna be Greedy Williams. That's the guy. So

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Speaker 1: that's the way I would look at it. And I

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Speaker 1: don't mean to go down this road, but I really

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Speaker 1: think it's It sounds simplistic, but the most important thing,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's incredibly hard to identify, is when

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Speaker 1: you're looking at all these athletes, who's going to get better?

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Speaker 1: Who's going to get better? Not who can get better?

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Speaker 1: Who is going to get better? How how do I

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Speaker 1: quantify that? How do I figure out how to figure

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Speaker 1: that out? And how do I tab that guy and

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Speaker 1: say that's my pick? Because, let's face it, that's what

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Speaker 1: this is all about. A J boyer, undrafted becomes a

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Speaker 1: high contract, high dollar contract guy as a free agent

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Speaker 1: because he got better, he put the work in, he

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Speaker 1: stayed healthy enough to improve. That's what you're looking for.

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt comes into the pros and he's not JJ

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Speaker 1: Watt of a year later, he got better? Who's going

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Speaker 1: to get better? Show me that. I don't even know

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Speaker 1: how to tell that part of it. You could tell

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Speaker 1: who runs fast now, and you know, and sometimes that

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Speaker 1: translates automatically, but very rarely will it hold up over time.

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Speaker 1: You have to identify who the pros are. Just like

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Speaker 1: when Karl Smith was in here a few weeks ago

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Speaker 1: and he said, yeah, you have to be able to

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Speaker 1: live in the jungle as a quarterback, as a point

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Speaker 1: guard in the NBA. He thought he'd put that perfect five.

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Speaker 1: If you think about well, this hasn't always been the case,

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Speaker 1: but if you think about some of the greats in

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Speaker 1: that continue to get better. They I used some significant

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Speaker 1: adversity in their in their life or their career at

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Speaker 1: some point. And who's who's the greatest player, Who's the

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Speaker 1: greatest player of all time in the NFL? Jim Brown,

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Speaker 1: Lawrence Taylor, I don't know. I wasn't going there. I

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Speaker 1: was gonna say Tom Brady. But Tom Brady, I thought

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Speaker 1: we were we were going to positions. No, Tom Brady,

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Speaker 1: from a couple you know, had gone from one team

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Speaker 1: he found a home. Really here, Chris, like you said,

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Speaker 1: was a late round, was late wrong guy. Eric had

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Speaker 1: had a bad knee injury in a ball game that

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Speaker 1: he had come back from, and that was part of

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Speaker 1: the reason why he was a third rounder, because he

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Speaker 1: was coming back from that knee injury. If he didn't

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Speaker 1: have that knee injury. Eric Winston is a bona fide

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Speaker 1: first rounder, but he had to come back from that injury.

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Speaker 1: But they were all wound the exact same way. And

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Speaker 1: that's the one other thing I think if we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the defense, the offensive line in particular, when I

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Speaker 1: said fit earlier, fit is twofold, fit is how with

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Speaker 1: what you're gonna do? Those guys all fit the zone

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Speaker 1: block in the scheme? I mean, look, I think you

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Speaker 1: could have put Dwayne and Eric in any system at

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Speaker 1: that point when they're healthy and you kind of coda fit,

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Speaker 1: But how do they fit in the offensive scheme you run?

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Speaker 1: But then also how do they fit together? That group

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Speaker 1: as great as it was, they fit together so well

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Speaker 1: because if one had an inadequacy, the other one could

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Speaker 1: make up for it. And especially in his zone blocking scheme,

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Speaker 1: how you have to do things together and how you

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Speaker 1: have to move as one, you know, SYNCD up unit.

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Speaker 1: They were able to do that, and getting to know

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Speaker 1: them over the years, you understood why because they all

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Speaker 1: had kind of a similar mindset and how they went

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Speaker 1: about about doing things. Not off the field. Obviously they

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Speaker 1: had their differences and things like that, but they're all

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Speaker 1: They're all pretty similar in the way that they thought

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Speaker 1: about the game, and I think that made for a

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Speaker 1: great fit of those five. But also it fit because

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Speaker 1: of what they were running at the time. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I think about Chris Myers running his zown blocking scheme.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was the perfect zone center for that.

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Speaker 1: I think Wade was really good in his zone scheme.

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Speaker 1: You know, the two tackles, man, they were tight ends

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Speaker 1: in college, so you knew that they could move and

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Speaker 1: I was gonna fit them so they fit on the field.

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Speaker 1: They fit on and off the field together, if you

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Speaker 1: catch my drift. So I think that's another thing, especially

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Speaker 1: for offensive alignment. I think other business positions maybe not

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Speaker 1: as important to do that, but the offensive line is

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Speaker 1: they'll tell you it's so important to do that, So

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big factor as well. All right, well,

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Speaker 1: this is all worth watching as they embark on the draft,

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Speaker 1: which four weeks from tonight will be in rounds two

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Speaker 1: and three live on the air, as we'll be bringing

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Speaker 1: it to you here from NRG Stadium all seven rounds

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Speaker 1: of the NFL Draft. John Harris will be on for

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Speaker 1: sixteen seventeen hours of coverage. I'm looking forward to it.

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Speaker 1: You know I love it, Yes, you know I love

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Speaker 1: It's my favorite time here because I my philosophy has

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Speaker 1: been for years, as I shout into a mic many

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Speaker 1: many years ago, you built through the draft. This is

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Speaker 1: where you build the team. This your foundation of the

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Speaker 1: team is found in the draft. It's not found in

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Speaker 1: free agency, It's not found in any other way. Now,

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Speaker 1: this team has been lucky in some sense that undrafted

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Speaker 1: free agents have been a big part of it, as

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Speaker 1: we mentioned Boyer and Aaron Foster, etc. But I think

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Speaker 1: every team has to find a few. I think so too.

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Speaker 1: I absolutely championship teams will, But think about the foundation

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Speaker 1: of this team. Deshaw Watson, DeAndre Hopkins, Clowney. Wow, those

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Speaker 1: are all guys that were drafted, Zach Cuttingham B Mack drafted,

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Speaker 1: DJ Reader, drafted, the free agents you bring in, I

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Speaker 1: mean I can really Mark only come up with one

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Speaker 1: year where free agents were just a huge part of

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Speaker 1: that team, and that was twenty seventeen in Jacksonville, A J. Boyer, Clays,

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Speaker 1: Campbellberry Church. It was. It was the perfect story. It

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Speaker 1: was the perfect storm of what they already had building

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Speaker 1: on Maligue Jackson from the year before and drafting Jalen

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Speaker 1: Ramsey put Miles Jackets drafted that same draft that, like

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Speaker 1: I said, it was the perfect storm of all of that.

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Speaker 1: Very rarely do you do. You have that but your team,

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Speaker 1: if you're gonna win a championship, you're gonna build it

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Speaker 1: through the draft. Now, I know someone will say, well,

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Speaker 1: look at the Patriots over the years. You know they've

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Speaker 1: had free agents. Yeah, they traded for Randy Moss, right,

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Speaker 1: they did sign West Walker when he became a free agent.

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Speaker 1: But if you looked, and I did this going into

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Speaker 1: the eighteen draft, if you looked at the teams that

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Speaker 1: had their draft picks still on the roster, the Patriots

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Speaker 1: had more draft picks on the roster than any team

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Speaker 1: in the NFL to that point. So they use free

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Speaker 1: agents or trades to fill a few holes here right there,

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Speaker 1: Here we go comparing everything to the Patriots. Again, well

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Speaker 1: why wouldn't you. Here's my analogy. It's not really an analogy,

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Speaker 1: it's a similarity. People compare work ethics of players to

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt the way they compare organizations to the Patriots. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's like, why aren't you more like JJ Watt? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's JJ Watt, Why aren't you more like the Patriots? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's the Patriots. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I's almost unfair, I agree, But to that extent, JJ

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Speaker 1: ends up being someone that players point to and say,

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Speaker 1: I gotta do it like that. It's right, it's that's

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Speaker 1: that's that's your goal. I mean, I think if you

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Speaker 1: can knock off the pick, like, if you can get

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Speaker 1: to the point where you can work as hard as JJ,

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Speaker 1: you got a shot. And I think that's the same

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Speaker 1: way teams look at and say, hey, if you can

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Speaker 1: knock off the Patriots, then you got an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: be uh, to be pretty good. And it was interesting

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Speaker 1: thinking about the Patriots. Maybe we'll get into this a

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Speaker 1: little bit. But they hire Greg Siano, he then leaves

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Speaker 1: after a couple of months. They lose Gronk, they lose

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Speaker 1: Trey Flowers, they lose Trent Brown, and yet they'll still

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Speaker 1: be picked up when the AFC right or at least finished.

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Speaker 1: Second to Kendall, there'll be some they're picked. There'll be

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Speaker 1: some joker out there that's like, ah, the Patriots are dead.

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Speaker 1: Let me be the first to write it. Every year

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Speaker 1: it happens and every year we look up and see

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Speaker 1: those jokers, and somebody's gonna be right at some point,

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Speaker 1: and maybe this is the year. We could only hope.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not gonna pick against him. I think Siano

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Speaker 1: is the outline of those things. Well, here's the other

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Speaker 1: thing I didn't mention too. They they lost Brian Flores

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Speaker 1: events according obviously Shiana was going to replace lost Brian Flores.

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Speaker 1: They lost their defensive line coach, Brennan Daily. They lost Chatosha,

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Speaker 1: who's the wide receiver's coach. At some point, I mean,

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Speaker 1: those guys had all been together for a while, right

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Speaker 1: at some point that loss of coaching continuity. It. I

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Speaker 1: know Belichick's still there, I know Brady. It's gonna have

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Speaker 1: an impact. It's just how much of an impact does

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Speaker 1: it take them from twelve and four to eleven and

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Speaker 1: five fresh By the way, McDaniels, he must be thinking, Man,

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Speaker 1: I'll just wait till Belichick's done, and by then Brady's

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Speaker 1: done and then they're a bad team. Just kidding, all right.

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Speaker 1: Next up, Actually, I'm not kidding a hoping that's the

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Speaker 1: case exactly. Next up, gut reaction from me on some things.

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Speaker 1: Johnny's gonna throw at me and a few comments on

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Speaker 1: there in the lab. Johnny Andrews, Yes, podcast. Oh, I

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Speaker 1: can merge them together. I can merge them together. Let's

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Speaker 1: do it. It's Texans All Acts. That's keeping you company.

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Speaker 1: On a Friday evening. Mark Vandamayer John Harris with you

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Speaker 1: on Texans Radio as We originate from the Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: Stadium otherwise known as NRG Stadium the Junday Texans Radio Studio. So, Johnny,

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Speaker 1: you and Drew did the fifty three man roster podcast

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Speaker 1: we did. I don't know where you want to start here,

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Speaker 1: but you want to do some gut reaction. Let's do

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Speaker 1: let's do it. Let's do gut reaction, right, Texans All Time,

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Speaker 1: fifty three man roster. I'm not gonna be happy. I might, Okay,

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Speaker 1: go ahead, No, I think I think you will. Okay,

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Speaker 1: got a feeling some of these you may just feel like, okay,

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Speaker 1: but there we go. Quarterbacks. We put two of one roster.

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Speaker 1: Good the Shawn Watson to start Matt Shop to back

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Speaker 1: up your gut reaction. Good. I like it. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean I don't think there's anything really at all, because

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Speaker 1: I know that when you're doing the all time, fifty

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Speaker 1: three man roster. They're gonna be some good weapons. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be some good players up front. I think it'll

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Speaker 1: be all very nice for Deshaun Watson to pull the

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Speaker 1: trigger and Shaw will be a good backup. Yeah, he's

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Speaker 1: still a backup, which is interesting. We'll see matt U

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Speaker 1: sometime this year. In twenty nineteen, Okay, we put five

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Speaker 1: running backs. One was Vante Lecha fullback. So we had

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Speaker 1: four running backs. Okay, okay, so we had Arian Foster, yep,

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Speaker 1: pretty obvious. Yes we had Dominic William Slash Davis. Pretty

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Speaker 1: I'm glad you didn't forget about my guy, Dominican. He.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he was tremendous for the even though my

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Speaker 1: my Texans knowledge from O two to O seven's a

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Speaker 1: little shaky, he deserved it. Three years of about a

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Speaker 1: thousand yards of season, tremendous, was a good receiver. The

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Speaker 1: third one was Lamar Miller. Okay, your gut reaction to

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Speaker 1: the fourth running back fifty three master back, your gut

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Speaker 1: reaction to Ben Tate being the fourth back? O now here,

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Speaker 1: we're a couple of just let you think on that.

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Speaker 1: A couple of guys votes here the guidelines. The guidelines.

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Speaker 1: When you start to think about it, you're like, wait

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Speaker 1: a second here. The guidelines were no one year wonders

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Speaker 1: like if a guy came in for a year and

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Speaker 1: it was going like, I can't go Sleeve Steve Slate. Well,

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Speaker 1: you can't go Steve because Steve was he was here

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Speaker 1: for a few years, even though the one year is

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Speaker 1: the one year we remember because that was the first

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Speaker 1: reaction I had was like, oh, kind of go Slice.

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Speaker 1: You can't go. You couldn't put a guy like Tyra

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Speaker 1: Matthew in there where he's just like one year. But

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Speaker 1: we're talking running back. So so you're saying Ben Tate, look,

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Speaker 1: I gotta go Steve Slayton. I had a bent Tate. Okay,

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Speaker 1: go I'm sorry because I know Ben Tate did some

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Speaker 1: good things, but Slayton for that year led the AFC

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Speaker 1: and yards from scrimmage. I'm going Steve slay Ride Slayton

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. He was tremendous. He was tremendous.

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Speaker 1: He was a third round saver. If he doesn't get hurt,

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't get it hurt, he doesn't get the

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Speaker 1: neck injury. The following year, you know, the weird thing

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Speaker 1: is when we had him on the flood Rucker Show

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Speaker 1: this year, you know, it's prepping the interview, and I

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Speaker 1: just I don't even remember him being around in twenty ten,

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Speaker 1: and he was. Yeah, I remember two thousand and nine

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Speaker 1: because he had the injury that now it wasn't going

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Speaker 1: so well. That's why they relied on other backs that Eventually,

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Speaker 1: Arian Foster takes the stage against Miami late in the season,

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Speaker 1: but I barely remembered him in twenty ten when Arian

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Speaker 1: Foster led the league in rushing. But I gotta go

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Speaker 1: Steve Slayton as my fourth back on the all time

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Speaker 1: Texans fifty three man roster. So you're going Slayton overtake

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Speaker 1: overtake Sorry Ben. When Take got healthy though in twenty eleven, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know, look Arian opening Day he ran for like

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Speaker 1: a buck something against the Colts, the second consecutive opening

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Speaker 1: day victory against the Colts. I mean, big news at

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Speaker 1: the time. We talked about the offensive line earlier of

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Speaker 1: twenty eleven, Right, Yeah, you got Arian and Ben Tate

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Speaker 1: running behind that line. Yeah, if Shop stays healthy, I

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Speaker 1: think that's the team that has an opportunity to beat

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Speaker 1: in New England. I think that's the team that could have.

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Speaker 1: When people forget about that season is when they go

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Speaker 1: to the Colts the second to last week of the

635
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Speaker 1: season on the Thursday night and they lose to dan Orlavski. Yeah, gosh,

636
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: the jj WAT penalty game. Yes, that game, if they

637
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: had one net, they're still alive for a buy if

638
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 1: they win the closer against Tennessee back here. Now, they're

639
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: not guaranteed a buyer with that win, but if they

640
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: got some help and got that win, they would get

641
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: a buy So there was a lot on the line.

642
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: They lost three straight to end the regular season that team.

643
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: The third game was against the Titans. They didn't need

644
00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 1: the game, so they kind of mailed it in after

645
00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: the first drive. Right. I don't want to take away

646
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: from TJ, because TJ has become a legend because in

647
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: this town because of what he did that year. But

648
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,280
Speaker 1: a shabby stays healthy that year. That was the team.

649
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: That twenty eleven team. That was the team. They were

650
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: on a roll. They had won fourth straight. That was

651
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: the team. And Matt goes out that they won three

652
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: more with TJ and they clinched the division. That was it.

653
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: Because they could hit you with Tate and with Foster

654
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: and then all some boom pulled out match were on bootleg.

655
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,080
Speaker 1: You think I think you've let me. Let me look

656
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: at I'm looking at Jonathan Wells right now. I'm pulling on. Yeah. See,

657
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: Wells is one I think out of both. That's out

658
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 1: of drew Our wheelhouse. That's out of your wheelhouse, and

659
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,719
Speaker 1: Wells let me just pull up. It wasn't fantastic, all right,

660
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: eleven hundred yards in his career, all with the Texans,

661
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 1: three point one per carry, never mind ten touchdowns in

662
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 1: his career. Yeah, all right, so that's not great. But

663
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: he had some good games. You know. He was kind

664
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: of like a Ron Dane, even though Dane is a

665
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: different story because he had been around for a while.

666
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: But he gave, you know, every once in a while,

667
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: he'd give you, you you know, kind of like Alfred Blue.

668
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, he'd give you a buck

669
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: fifty when you need it. But it wasn't much other

670
00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 1: than that necessarily. But he was solid, would you James Allen,

671
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: otherwise known as Merciless, he became a rapper named Merciless.

672
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640
Speaker 1: That's Texans trivia for you. What two players would might

673
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: be known as merciless. Good question. I would have never

674
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 1: gotten that, so Arian Dominic Lamar, any question with those two.

675
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: Let's go all right, tight end, let's safe time end

676
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: for a second. Let's go let's go to a wide receiver. Okay,

677
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: let's go to wide receiver. Drew put six. He puts six.

678
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Somebody's gonna play special teams. Then, well, he's not really

679
00:32:55,200 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 1: handling it. Maybe, okay, maybe Jews roster management's little little shake.

680
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800
Speaker 1: We know the top two. We know the top two. Okay,

681
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 1: so then we go with so gut reaction to Kevin

682
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: Walter is the third receiver? Well, is he the third?

683
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: Or is he? Okay, he'll round out the lineup. So

684
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Kevin Walters tough. You have any you

685
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,080
Speaker 1: have any problem with Kevin Walter being on the fifth three? Okay?

686
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 1: Will Fuller, you know, he gets hurt a lot so far,

687
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 1: and I really want that to stop. But I think

688
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,320
Speaker 1: based on it's very little body of work considering the

689
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 1: history of the franchise, But I think I got to

690
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: put him on there, right, I mean, so talenty so

691
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: good fifth receiver, the fifth guy we mentioned, Corey Bradford, Yeah,

692
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: he was the original deep threat for the Texans, and

693
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 1: he did some things here. I mean, we all remember

694
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: the opening day and you know he was he was

695
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: an important part of this thing for a while. Gut

696
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: reaction to receiver number six. Okay, key key QT so

697
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: little what four games or something like that. I don't

698
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,480
Speaker 1: know what about Jacobe Jones. We talked about that. We

699
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: talked about that. I said that I could make a

700
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:10,919
Speaker 1: case for Jacoby as a return guy, but I don't

701
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: know that. I can. You remember a certain instance in

702
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 1: a playoff game and you thought, but that wasn't here, though,

703
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,759
Speaker 1: that wasn't here. It was at Baltimore. Yeah, I don't

704
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 1: I mean Jacoby as a return guy yet, I don't

705
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: want the seven preseason Yes, I'm all about that. Yeah

706
00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: two yeah, so uh yeah. His greatest moments to me

707
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: as a receiver were in Baltimore the next year, twenty twelve.

708
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: So that was one of the th That was one

709
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: of the reasons I couldn't come to the great out

710
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,880
Speaker 1: on that stuff like what they've done elsewhere in addition

711
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: to here, Yeah, Jacoby is gonna make it over QT,

712
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 1: yeah for now. But the other reason that I said QT,

713
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: I was okay with because he's our slot guy. We

714
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,359
Speaker 1: don't we don't really have a slot guy. I mean,

715
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: I love about your boy, doesn't make the team. I

716
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 1: love David Anderson, But if I've got to pick between

717
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 1: Keiki and David Anderson, I'm taking Keiki nine and a

718
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: half times out of ten. Sorry, Da, It's just the

719
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: way it goes, you know, I think he would pick

720
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,840
Speaker 1: that as well. All right, tight end, let's go ahead, Okay,

721
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: all time Texans fifty three man roster. You and Drew

722
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 1: did it on in the lab. Just Drew picked three

723
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: tight ends. Okay, and I've got him. You do, okay,

724
00:35:24,280 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: Owen Daniels, Okay, it gets tough here. I know the

725
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: same thing I got. All right, If I'm going all

726
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 1: time Texans fifty three man roster and I gotta pick

727
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: tight end. Oh, it does get tough because I was

728
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:42,239
Speaker 1: gonna say Dreeson automatically all because he does number too much.

729
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: You got it, You got it, owned Daniels and Jodis.

730
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I really want to put CJ on the

731
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 1: team because he's talented and he was certainly headed in

732
00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,239
Speaker 1: the right direction. I mean, I think that guy would

733
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: have been a long time, very productive starter. For this thing,

734
00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,880
Speaker 1: just coming into his own as a receiver and then

735
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: he has to leave. The bill was awful. I know

736
00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: it was bad. So gut reaction to tight end number three,

737
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,840
Speaker 1: big baby Jordan Thomas. I can't go there yet. I

738
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:13,320
Speaker 1: can't go there yet. I know he caught four touchdown passes,

739
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:14,640
Speaker 1: So I think it's gonna be really good. That was

740
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: a heck of a rookie campaign, I think. So that

741
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: was a great debut. It's it's tough being a rookie

742
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,839
Speaker 1: in this league. Sixth rounder, sixth rounder. I mean, you've

743
00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: heard me. I think the audience has heard me enough,

744
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: but I'll do it again. Believe me, how young this

745
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: team is, how offensively, how young offensively they were last year,

746
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 1: how inexperienced they were, yet they were able to navigate

747
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,399
Speaker 1: their way to eleven wins with you know, obviously it's

748
00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 1: a collective effort, but I give them a lot of

749
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: credit for that. These tight ends, Aikens and Thomas so young.

750
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: So I think Thomas is gonna be real good. But

751
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 1: I think he got to pay some homage here too.

752
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: Hey what about Billy Miller leading receiver on the team?

753
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 1: Year one? I thought about I thought about Billy Miller.

754
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 1: I don't know if we mentioned him. He was in

755
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: my consideration, but I I thought about two guys one

756
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: you've mentioned, I would have put CJ. I think CJ's

757
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:05,399
Speaker 1: actually three guys. CJ his ability to block, I mean,

758
00:37:05,440 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: he got so much better each and every year that

759
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,200
Speaker 1: I mean, twenty sixteen was just an unbelievable year. So

760
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: along those lines, also mentioned Ryan Griffin. I mean, Ryan's

761
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: been doing it for six years. He's I think he's

762
00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 1: had a really solid career. But Garret Graham, Garret Graham

763
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: had a couple of years where he was really good.

764
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: I can't put I can't put any of them ahead

765
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: of CJ. But I think the potential for a big

766
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: baby is through the roof. I think it's so I

767
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: kind of rode potential on that one. How hungry is

768
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: will long now? And as I mean, he's always been hungry.

769
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:40,720
Speaker 1: But as an assistant coach, you're a tight ends coach

770
00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:43,600
Speaker 1: that's got to send up the antenna because you're thinking, well,

771
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: look at all these tight ends coaches, like in Tennessee here,

772
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,360
Speaker 1: it's happening all over the place, these tight ends coaches.

773
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 1: Sean McVeagh who become offensive coordinators and then you know

774
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: what's next. So I think Will Long's I'm not saying

775
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: it's automatic for him, believe me, but it's got to

776
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: be really exciting to a young man to be able

777
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 1: to coach this group. All that talent and you know,

778
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: now he's got Fells to work with as a blocker.

779
00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: And you know my theory on the tight end coaches,

780
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: it's because they dabble in everything, old line blocking schemes,

781
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:18,680
Speaker 1: receiver patterns. They got to know the offense inside of that.

782
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:20,880
Speaker 1: They all do, but they have to know it from

783
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 1: multiple dimensions for their particular position group. I think it's

784
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch this group. But yeah, I

785
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: would say Thomas deserves strong consideration, but I'm still gonna

786
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: pay homage to the people who've done it a little

787
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:34,000
Speaker 1: bit longer. So your three would be I'm gonna go

788
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:37,439
Speaker 1: Owen Daniel's number one, I'll go Dreeson, and then I'll

789
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,800
Speaker 1: go Fedorowitz. That's gonna be my three tight ends with

790
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: Billy Miller audible mention, and then I'll throw in everybody else.

791
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: I love Garret gram too. I mean I think back

792
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: to the end of that playoff game, the second one

793
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: that everyone. Everyone hates this one because they should have

794
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,279
Speaker 1: been having a buy and playing the next week. But

795
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: they beat the Bengals the second consecutive year in the

796
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: postseason at home in twenty twelve, and Garret Gramm in

797
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: a big late game catch to pick up a first

798
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:02,480
Speaker 1: down and play keep away from the Bengals, who are

799
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 1: a pretty hot team going into that postseason. Offensive line. Okay,

800
00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: eight eight players. We have already mentioned the front five. Alright,

801
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: first five, the first five of Wayte Brown, Waite Smith,

802
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 1: Chris Myers, Mike Brizel, and Eric Winston. Yes, okay, so

803
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 1: that's yeah, Chiltz, Yes, that's gonna make my eight. Okay,

804
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: so he's won. So because yes, you can play guard

805
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: tackle Derek Newton, he's your swing tackle. Seventh round draft,

806
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,759
Speaker 1: So you're okay with that. So gut reaction to our

807
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:41,440
Speaker 1: interior backup, we went Steve McKinney over Ben Jones. The

808
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: inside skinny with Steve McKinney. He'll love that, by the way,

809
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 1: she won't love my singing, but he'll love that he

810
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: has been he's been named in this capacity. Uh yeah,

811
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:56,919
Speaker 1: why not. McKinney played guard for Peyton Manning in Indianapolis

812
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,600
Speaker 1: before he came here to play center for this expansion

813
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: franch guy. So McKinney's got the pelts, if you will.

814
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 1: He played guard. So and that last and Ben was similar.

815
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: Ben played guard, and then his last year here he

816
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 1: played center. Hey, that last year McKinney was a cult

817
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: during playoffs. That was Jim Morris saying claffs and McKinney

818
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: was on that team playing guard and they went six

819
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,800
Speaker 1: and ten and more was shown the door than Dungee

820
00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: takes over and the rest of his history. I'll go

821
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,319
Speaker 1: McKinney over bench. OK. I like that. I like that

822
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: you brought that up. Yeah, I'm trying to think of

823
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 1: just anybody else, you know, we I'm trying to think

824
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: if we thought about anybody else in the offensive line.

825
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,480
Speaker 1: Those are the those that seemed pretty clear cut. Offensive

826
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: line seemed like there was not too much debate. It

827
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 1: was essentially the twenty eleven line. We did mention Brandon

828
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 1: Brooks potentially a guard, but I think Brandon really came

829
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 1: into his own with the Eagles. So yeah, we didn't

830
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:48,040
Speaker 1: go there. But uh, that's we We already had Chris

831
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 1: Myers as our starters, so kind of felt like that's

832
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:55,239
Speaker 1: you went specialists too, right, specialists? Okay, all right, let's

833
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:59,439
Speaker 1: go so gut reaction, gut reaction John Weekes's of course. Yeah,

834
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,600
Speaker 1: well Yan Pittman is gonna be all upset at me now,

835
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 1: but still it should be uh punter Leckler, Yeah, okay, kicker,

836
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,759
Speaker 1: your gut reaction to us. And I pushed for this,

837
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 1: so God help me if things don't go well in

838
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. Gut reaction to Kaymi Fairbaron being a kicker.

839
00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: All right, well, here's the deal with Fairbaron. And I've

840
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 1: been thinking about this. It's funny because I was thinking

841
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: about the kicker subject and fair Baron has never missed

842
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 1: a kick to lose you a game, right, right, He

843
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 1: guys hasn't been kicking that long, right, but he has

844
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 1: not missed a kick to lose a game. That's a

845
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: really painful way to lose. We have not had to

846
00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: deal with that knock would knock everything. We have not

847
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: had to deal with Kaymi Fairbaron missing a big kick

848
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: that costs you. He's missed some kicks, but it's not

849
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: been like, oh my gosh, like at the buzzer you lose. Yeah,

850
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: I mean that that hurts. Like our buddy here for

851
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati Bengals on Christmas Eve, Oh gosh, yeah, yeah,

852
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,520
Speaker 1: that hurt a lot for them, you know. But Chris

853
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 1: Brown was really good for a while. However, he missed

854
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 1: some kicks that lost you games. He missed one against

855
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: Indy in O nine that still hurts. He missed one

856
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: against the Titans a couple of weeks later football that

857
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,319
Speaker 1: still hurts. Those were big misses. And I still love

858
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: Chris Brown. I saw him during the Andre Johnson weekend.

859
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 1: It was great to catch up. He also had some

860
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: big days. I mean, Chris Brown had some days that

861
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: fair Baron has not had. Now, some of this is

862
00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 1: just circumstantial because you get those opportunities. Brown at a

863
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,959
Speaker 1: game against the Dolphins where he kicked three field goals

864
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: from fifty four yards or beyond, including a fifty seven

865
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: yard or to win the game, and he was Special

866
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 1: Teams Player of the Week for that. Think about that,

867
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Speaker 1: fifty four plus three for three when yet that was

868
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: seven seven okay, remember that? So they beat Miami at

869
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 1: the buzzer with Brown's fifty seven yard or the third

870
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 1: field goal of the game of fifty four or more

871
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: I mean, that's pretty impressive stuff. That was a big day.

872
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 1: He hit the forty yard or to beat Green Bay

873
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: Green Bay. I mean, oh wait that he He hits

874
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 1: some big kicks for this team, no doubt about it.

875
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: He hit the one that beat the Colts and Christmas

876
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,879
Speaker 1: Eve h forty eight yards and six. So he hits

877
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: some big ones, but he missed some big ones too,

878
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,080
Speaker 1: So fair baron, I think more consistent and the touchbacks

879
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:22,040
Speaker 1: are huge. That was the one thing that I said

880
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: was how big a weapon is Kinney because he can

881
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 1: if if rad See and Tracy Smiths say make him

882
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: return it, he can put it in that spot where

883
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,879
Speaker 1: he forces him to return it, right if if it's

884
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 1: just look it's just too hectic right now, like the

885
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:38,400
Speaker 1: Jets game, and it's just like just put it on

886
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: the end zone. Don't even give Roberts an opportunity to

887
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: see it. Yeah, you know, Andrey Roberts didn't return leading kicking,

888
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,560
Speaker 1: leading kickoff returner in the league. And it wasn't even close.

889
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: He didn't run one. To the game plan, keep it

890
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: away from him, don't let him do anything. He can

891
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,359
Speaker 1: put it eight yards in the ends brought up. That's

892
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,760
Speaker 1: like one of those sys that we don't get into

893
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 1: sometimes like we do often because we do a lot

894
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: of radio here. But like after that game, Yeah, that's

895
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,760
Speaker 1: a big part of the game. Player, don't let Roberts

896
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 1: kill you with a big return. And Kaimi could. Kaymie

897
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 1: was as as big a defensive player that day because

898
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: he could boot it eight You could boot it all

899
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 1: the way through the end zone, So that was huge.

900
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: I love talking about stuff like that because that's those

901
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 1: are the nuances of football. And look, it's not all

902
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,759
Speaker 1: like we can't just talk about the biggest thing, like

903
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: you haven't made it to a Super Bowl yet, talk

904
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 1: to me in next January, you know, just you don't

905
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 1: do that the joys of the journey. We had two

906
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:30,080
Speaker 1: other specialists on the team. What was that, like the

907
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: stinct specialist that all they're gonna do is play special teams.

908
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 1: That's it, two of them. Gut reaction to these two

909
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: Johnson Batamosi, Brian Peters. Geez, guys who were on the

910
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:48,439
Speaker 1: team this year. Think about how our special teams changed

911
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: from twenty seventeen and before that to twenty eighteen. Want

912
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: to go back to the early days. It was unbelievable

913
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,120
Speaker 1: here's one guy that I mentioned, Brian Brayman. That was

914
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,720
Speaker 1: that's good. That was one guy I mentioned. Twenty eleven.

915
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: I couldn't make I couldn't make the case for Brayman

916
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 1: over Peters and Batamosey because those guys were they were tremendous. Batamosey,

917
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Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like last year the four or

918
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Speaker 1: five guys, think it's five guys with Peters, Batamosey, AJ Moore,

919
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:21,959
Speaker 1: Buddy how Joe Webb in Scarlett being one of them.

920
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,319
Speaker 1: Those guys were so instrumental on this team line. Can

921
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,319
Speaker 1: I go with jer Romantis as a return man? Well,

922
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:27,920
Speaker 1: that's the thing we haven't done. We did not put

923
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Speaker 1: a return guy on this because it's a spot. It's

924
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:32,279
Speaker 1: a roster spot. But it's a roster spot because we

925
00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,680
Speaker 1: got Qt. Yeah, we've got Fuller. Yeah, we got those two,

926
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have somebody in the defensive side of

927
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 1: the boat also has return skills as well, and that'll

928
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Speaker 1: be next week. Johnny, thanks a lot, Yeah, Mark, thank you.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it for the program. Go

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Speaker 1: to Houston Texans dot com to read up on the team.

931
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Speaker 1: Check out all the videos. There are some sensational ones

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Speaker 1: eleven o'clock on ABC thirteen. Plenty of stuff in the

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Speaker 1: NFL meetings earlier this week in Phoenix. Have a great

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Speaker 1: night everyone, and go Texans.