1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Odd Couple podcast. Be sure 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: to check us out live every weekday from seven pm 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: to ten pm Eastern four to seven Pacific on Fox 4 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Find your local station for The Odd Couple 5 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: at Foxsports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching FSR. 7 00:00:24,120 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 2: Let's get this. 8 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 3: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio, our number three here on. 9 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 2: The Odd Couple on a What you gonna see in 10 00:00:38,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: your face? Magic City Monday? Is that what today is? 11 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: I don't even know what day it is. That's what 12 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 2: happens when you' getting ready to go. I'm already on radio. 13 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 2: I never take days off, rob G. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 4: Except I'm taking twenty already in twenty twenty six. 15 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 5: But it says for good calls for listen. I don't mind. 16 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: I like it. You're a human. You have stuff to do. 17 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 5: I was really real, you know, torn last week, and 18 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 5: you know I didn't feel it between tips, Yeah, just 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 5: you know. I did have a lot of wine, but 20 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 5: I still felt guilty. 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 4: You better ever go back to the wine country, not 22 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: bring me back a bottle just for keepsake. 23 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 5: I remember that I'm gonna go back, no doubt. About it, 24 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 5: but it is the couple hour number three. You know, 25 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,840 Speaker 5: a lot to get to. 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Kamla hosted Beyond the Surface for 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 5: x RAID Sports. 36 00:01:55,560 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: Make sure you said raid X rated A Y say 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: y on that right? Yeah, that's why I said it. Yeah, 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 2: Oh was it a T? 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,079 Speaker 4: See it is a T and I'm thinking you didn't 40 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:09,840 Speaker 4: want to say x rady it's ex That's why I'm 41 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 4: gonna be like, yeah, wait to say the raid. 42 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 2: That's why I said rated. I mean bad. Okay, here's 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 2: a typo one. I let you down on that one. 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: All right. 45 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:18,839 Speaker 4: Well, I didn't know where I thought we were trying 46 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 4: to be keep our jobs. Now it is X rated Okay. 47 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 5: Uh, that's coming up in about twenty seven minutes plus 48 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 5: a little last call, all that and uh much more 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,519 Speaker 5: so a lot to get to here an hour number three, 50 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 5: Rob G. Pat Riley is about ninety five years I 51 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 5: don't know how old pat Riley. 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,079 Speaker 6: Is, hey, but he deserves that statue, right, Rob, you 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 6: do agree on that. I mean, if you could get 54 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 6: a press box, he can at least get a come on, 55 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 6: come on, man, let me get it. Good to get 56 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 6: four championships with him? How many all the fames you win, Rob, 57 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 6: he can get one, let me get one. 58 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, they're paying him to do it. 59 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 5: But apparently, I mean, no matter how many statues you. 60 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,600 Speaker 2: Put, he wanted more. There's other stuff there that doesn't 61 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 2: add up. 62 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 4: That's big facts because uh, eighty years old, by the way, 63 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: eighty damn it sounds. 64 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 7: He looks good for being eighty. He looks good, but 65 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,799 Speaker 7: he doesn't sound good. I'm just telling him. We'll let 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 7: you hear what he said. You take our nicole wasn't good? 67 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 2: How good? What else is another one that didn't so good? 68 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 6: So pat Riley got his statue right at Crypto dot 69 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 6: com before the Lakers ugly lossles. I just want to 70 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 6: guy it in the Marty suit, jealous about that ain't 71 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 6: gonna wrinkle. 72 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 2: So uh. 73 00:03:35,880 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 6: Afterwards he met with the media, and of course Lebron 74 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 6: played for the Lakers, Lebron paid played for Mammy. He 75 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 6: when pat Riley was there and he was asked about 76 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:49,680 Speaker 6: the heatles, the Big Three Miami, Lebron, d Way, Chris 77 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 6: Bosh and whether or not he felt like they let 78 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:54,680 Speaker 6: some meat on the bone there in Miami. 79 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 2: Take a listen. 80 00:03:55,560 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 8: I thought the Big Three, you know going, you know, 81 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 8: Kris Bosh and especially Lebron. Then we had finally put 82 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 8: together what I thought. 83 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: Could become a dynasty. 84 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 8: It was I mean, four trips to the finals in 85 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 8: a row to World Championships was an incredible run. 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 9: And as a coach and as somebody who really thought 87 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 9: about how to build that particular team and he built it, 88 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 9: I saw something that could have lasted eight to ten years. 89 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 8: But I understood, as I said in my speech, is 90 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 8: that you know, the business in the NBA is the 91 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 8: business in. 92 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,120 Speaker 9: The NBA, and you know, players had an opportunity to 93 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 9: go somewhere else, and he. 94 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 8: Went to Cleveland and he won a title up there. 95 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 8: So I wish nothing but the best, But I want 96 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 8: to be selfish hereans. I wish I had them for 97 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 8: another eight or six, six or eight years would been great, 98 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 8: but we'll never know. 99 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: A week. 100 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 5: It's official, pat Roley c Now, okay, pat Riley, we 101 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 5: want to play this for you because this was Lebron 102 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:04,840 Speaker 5: when he got to Miami, not. 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 7: Two, not three, not four, not five, not six, six, 104 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 7: not seven. 105 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: And when I say that, I really believe it. 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 10: You know I'm not just up here blowing smoking none 107 00:05:16,279 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 10: of these fans, because that's not what I'm about. 108 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,160 Speaker 5: The idea that pat Riley, I know he's eighty, I'm 109 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 5: gonna cut him just a little bit of a little bit, 110 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 5: just a little bit, okay, but the idea of like 111 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 5: there was gonna be some dynasty there if he stayed. 112 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 5: Does he remember a couple things? First of all, they 113 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 5: gave up a championship to a Dallas team that had 114 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 5: no business beating us. Okay, then don't forget the Spurs 115 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 5: dismantled them when they lost that one. So they won 116 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 5: two out of four. If you think that that was 117 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 5: great when you put together such a team and came 118 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 5: away with two championships out of four, and don't forget. 119 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 5: If it wasn't for Ray Allen and I'm gonna bring 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,200 Speaker 5: it up, they would be one and three half the 121 00:06:03,240 --> 00:06:04,239 Speaker 5: fans at the arena. 122 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 2: Where were they, Kelvin? They were outside. 123 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 5: They were outside banging on the door to get back 124 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 5: in because they thought they lost that one. Go back 125 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:18,039 Speaker 5: and watch the video, pat Riley, when Lebron took his 126 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 5: his uh uh head band off and it was almost 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 5: in tears because he thought they had lost it. They 128 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 5: brought the ropes out in the trophy, do you remember, 129 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 5: and Ray Allen in. 130 00:06:31,120 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 2: A miracle shot. 131 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 5: They wind up winning that and winning that championship, and 132 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 5: that saved what they had going. 133 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 2: There's no way you can look at that and think that. 134 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 5: Was good at the very least, Kelvin, They'd have to 135 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,799 Speaker 5: win three in a row to do something special. 136 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 2: How many How few teams have won three in a 137 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: row with the. 138 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 5: Team that they had, am I right, Lebron was saying, 139 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 5: not two, not three? 140 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 2: He wouldn't he joking. 141 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: They thought when they put that team together, they were 142 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 5: gonna run all five or six in a row. 143 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,479 Speaker 2: Who was gonna beat them? In the East. 144 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 5: They were gonna go to the finals every year it's 145 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 5: like the Patriots played in the AFC East AFC least 146 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 5: that's what the East was. When they put together that 147 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 5: team in Miami, nobody was going Lebron went to the. 148 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:25,760 Speaker 2: Finals, what ten years in a row? War whatever, dude, and. 149 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 5: The idea that they only got two championships out of 150 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 5: that lost to an inferior Dallas team and got bulldozed 151 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 5: by the Spurs, and they nearly lost that other one 152 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 5: to the Spurs. Kauwhi, mister free throw mentled Gernobii missed 153 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: a couple free throws like they they were on the 154 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 5: cusp of being one in three with four straight trips 155 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: to the NBA finals. So no, pat Riley, him sticking 156 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 5: around didn't mean you were gonna have some dynasty going on, 157 00:07:56,920 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 5: because what you had done was me at best. 158 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: I call it underachieving. 159 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 5: That team underachieved that they couldn't put together three championships. 160 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,040 Speaker 2: In a row. 161 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 4: Well, I think you're over selling the the like what 162 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 4: they could have done. I think going at four and 163 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: went in two was was fine. 164 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 2: You wanted more. 165 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 4: But if I told you'd win two out of four 166 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 4: and you go four straight, that's that's insane. 167 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: No, it's not when they've been not when that Dallas 168 00:08:24,640 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 2: team and and and know we're. 169 00:08:28,840 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 4: Talking about blemishes on Lebron's career, and there's this, if 170 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 4: there's a that, if there's a this, if there's a that, 171 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 4: that's number one because even if that or even if 172 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 4: they say they lost, it's how they went out, and 173 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,200 Speaker 4: specifically him, how he went out in a loss. 174 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:42,640 Speaker 2: So I'm with you on that. Here's a couple of 175 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:43,079 Speaker 2: other things I. 176 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 4: Gotta add to pat Rally, I'm gonna work backwards here 177 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 4: to the most important number one. 178 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: Dwayne Wade's decline was epic from there on. 179 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 4: Dwayne Wade's decline after the year after that Lebron left. 180 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,960 Speaker 4: He played one more All Star year with the Heat 181 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,600 Speaker 4: after that fifty nine games, three games, three games, zero game, 182 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 4: two games. He played a combined eight games after the 183 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,680 Speaker 4: twenty seventeen season. You're out to said to you eight 184 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 4: games Dwayne Wade played. 185 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 2: Or I'm sorry, not eight games. 186 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 4: He only started eight games for the next handful of years, 187 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:24,080 Speaker 4: meaning he wasn't to Dewayne Wade your thought. Also, Chris 188 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 4: Bosh had block clot issues, like are. 189 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:27,599 Speaker 2: We forgetting that? 190 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 4: That's why he's officially seen that yet we're forgetting Chris 191 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 4: Bosch had blood clot We ain't seen him since and 192 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 4: on the basketball court. I'm hoping he's doing amazing in life, 193 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 4: but I'm saying on a basketball court. So Dwayne Wade 194 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 4: starts eight games for the next one two through four years. 195 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 4: After the year, after the next one more year, he 196 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 4: was still solid. And then after that Chris bosh is 197 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: having blood clots. 198 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 2: And I would. 199 00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 4: Argue, believe it or not, Rob because we saw Lebron 200 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 4: in the East. 201 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 2: If you can get him another player, he can get 202 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,199 Speaker 2: you to the finals more than anything. 203 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 4: Why wouldn't have worked is because of pat Riley, pat 204 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,240 Speaker 4: Riley and Lebron James would not work because what comes 205 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 4: with Lebron is a lot of concessions. Hey, I'm gonna 206 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: do this. Hey I'm gonna bring that, Hey draft that guy. 207 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 4: I ain't saying you should. This is my team, can 208 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 4: they come on to do this is my guys, my 209 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 4: whole crew. Pat Riley didn't like the entourage. Pat Riddley 210 00:10:20,240 --> 00:10:22,679 Speaker 4: didn't like all of this. Pat Riley didn't want Lebron. 211 00:10:22,720 --> 00:10:24,120 Speaker 4: He was mad at the loss or something. Member he 212 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 4: took me, said Cam Chocolate chips on the cookies. 213 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: Lebron was mad that that he wouldn't fire Eric Sposter. 214 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: He wouldn't fire Eric Sposter, and look at it, Eric 215 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,360 Speaker 4: Sposter still a. 216 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: Great coach, and we couldn't. 217 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 4: And then they got in the beef and they say 218 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 4: the final straw was that Lebron couldn't have his cookies 219 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 4: on the plane because you know, pat Riley was particular 220 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 4: by weight and body fat percentage and all that, and 221 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 4: you know, giving you privileges that would not have worked 222 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 4: what Lebron would expecting, especially now that he's a two 223 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 4: time champion, meaning now I have that thing that you 224 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: can't say, well, he's good, but he didn't have a championship. 225 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 4: I have a couple of rings. I'm the face of 226 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 4: the league. I'm MVPs and you don't want to give 227 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 4: me this. We can't talk about that. You don't want 228 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 4: to concede here. Pat Riley is known for being a stickler, 229 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 4: not budget. Those two would not have worked more than anything, 230 00:11:09,840 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 4: because even if Dwayne Wade declined, even with Chris bosh 231 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 4: health issues, Lebron James was in his prime that if 232 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 4: you would have paired him with another All Star, I'll 233 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 4: like Kyrie irving you go straight back to four finals. 234 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:22,080 Speaker 4: But more than anything, pat Riley and Lebron would not 235 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 4: have worked. They would have clashed and it was just 236 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 4: not one of them would have had to concede. One 237 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,840 Speaker 4: of them had to retire. Pat Riley I'm just done 238 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 4: with this, or Lebron saying in Miami, That's what I'm saying. 239 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 5: So then Lebron one thing in a long time, like like, 240 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 5: let's just be on. I know they've been to the 241 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 5: finals a couple of times, but I'm saying Lebron would 242 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,080 Speaker 5: have left inevitably in my opinion, because he and pat 243 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: Riley it just wouldn't have worked, like the not yielding anything, 244 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 5: and pat Riley was no you listening to Magic Johnson 245 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 5: tell Story's Caren, we couldn't do this. 246 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 2: We couldn't have parents. 247 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 4: The only time a parent got to fly was then 248 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 4: they had this crushing loss to the Celtics in the 249 00:11:58,800 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: finals and he let Kareem's father ride with him and 250 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 4: that was the only time they all looked like oh what. 251 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 4: So my point is pat Riley, even when he was 252 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 4: coming up as a coach, let alone, now as a 253 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 4: president and a made man, he ain't conceding nobody. 254 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 2: Him and Lebron would not have worked. 255 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 5: If you remember the reason that Tim Duncan didn't go 256 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 5: to Orlando with Grant. 257 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 4: Hill because they would not let his father Tracy McGrady 258 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: was just white. 259 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 5: I mean his wife fly, that was it. They be 260 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 5: like no, no, no family on the flight. And I 261 00:12:24,200 --> 00:12:26,200 Speaker 5: think Doc got that from Pat. 262 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,800 Speaker 4: Right, there's this weird yeah, Like that's my point when 263 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 4: you get superstars, specifically in the NBA. But but you 264 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 4: have to make it so you gotta you know, you 265 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 4: gotta massage the relationship and all that, and Pat ain't 266 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:40,320 Speaker 4: that guy, and I just don't think it would have worked. So, 267 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 4: like I said, Dwayne Wade never was the same after that, 268 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 4: Chris Bosh had health issues and more importantly than anything, 269 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 4: I just don't think at that point where Lebron was 270 00:12:48,840 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 4: facing the league now a two time champion, you know, 271 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 4: mister everything, him and pat Riley would. 272 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 2: Not have worked in my opinion, much longer. 273 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 5: All right, seven ninety nine on Fox and. 274 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 2: Seven nine nine, six sixty three sixty nine. 275 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 5: I want to hear from you on this one definitely, 276 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,200 Speaker 5: And uh, do you believe the Heat would have been 277 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 5: a dynasty if Lebron would have stayed or has pat 278 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 5: Riley gone c now because I'm going for the ladder. 279 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:17,920 Speaker 5: I'll tell you that, Rob Parker, Kelvin Washington. 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Check us out on YouTube, Subscribe, 299 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 12: hit that thumbs up icon, comment away Fox. 300 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 4: Sports Radio Aston couple. He is Rob, I'm Kelvin on 301 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 4: a Magic City Monday. Rick Kamila getting ready to join 302 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: us here in about eight minutes or so, host of 303 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 4: Beyond the Surface for X Rated Sports, we'll talk to 304 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 4: him about what's happening in India Association of Kennedy. 305 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 2: Whenever I hear his name, Oh, that's. 306 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 4: Came a lot, that's that's cam a lot. Yeah about 307 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 4: what is that? In the Commonwealth and. 308 00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 5: The Commonwealth and you're in the commonwey. 309 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 2: In the Commonwealth. All right? 310 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 4: Also YouTube, we're on it now. Shout out to all 311 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,120 Speaker 4: you and the YouTube be ends in the odd mob. 312 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 4: We appreciate your mob. 313 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 2: I don't know. They used to love me. They love you. 314 00:14:56,960 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 2: They just runs a little bit, but they're indifferent with me. Now, 315 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 2: you remember when. 316 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 4: You you were a little little kid, like the girl that 317 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: you used to hit and pull her ponytails. 318 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 2: That was the one you liked. Yes, her name was Giggy. 319 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 2: Is that where we got the giggle to get from? 320 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 4: Yes, Giggy. I still remember her. Okay, now what is 321 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: gig That was her name, Giggy. It was one summer 322 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:20,520 Speaker 4: when I was like nine or ten years old. She 323 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 4: came to visit her aunt and stayed in the neighborhood. 324 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 4: It was the summer I just couldn't stop thinking about Giggy. 325 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 2: You can remember that far back. Wow, well, let's stay 326 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: with your first like love. Yes, I was like I 327 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,160 Speaker 2: was smitten by you know how that was. Let's stay 328 00:15:37,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: let's stay there for a minute. 329 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 5: Now. 330 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 2: Did you ever google her once Google became a thing? No, 331 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 2: because I didn't really know. I don't know her last name. 332 00:15:44,480 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: So it was just one summer of Giga, one summer 333 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 4: of Giggy, And I was just did. 334 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: You ever get like a little hug or so? How 335 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 2: old are we? Ten eleven? You know? Did you get 336 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: a little shoe up shops you have hugger? I only 337 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 2: did you get one of those? Like little? 338 00:15:59,400 --> 00:16:03,320 Speaker 5: I think I I got one closed? 339 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 4: Look at her and now you said, snuck out the house, 340 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,120 Speaker 4: got on your little bike to ride her. 341 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 2: I know, I know the vibes. It was definitely the 342 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 2: vibes I was there back in the day. 343 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, it was one of those you know that you 344 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: can't It was beautiful and it was the summer when 345 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 5: she went back home. 346 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: I was like, so we never saw again. I felt 347 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,960 Speaker 2: the void, never saw again. Look at this is the 348 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 2: summer love right now, and there she was. It sounds 349 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:30,280 Speaker 2: like I entwered the movie. 350 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 4: She turned around and I'd never seen something so beautiful 351 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 4: in my life. Hi, I'm Giggy, Giggy, And I said, Giggy, 352 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 4: giggdy Giggy, and she laughed at my joke and we 353 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,680 Speaker 4: held hands on ice cream. 354 00:16:44,720 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: Now I'm hurt. 355 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 5: Did you work to the corner store and bought a 356 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 5: fruit drink for a nickel back and nickel? 357 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:51,920 Speaker 7: Yeah? 358 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,080 Speaker 2: You did it? 359 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 7: Was it? 360 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 2: Wooden? This was the seventies? Are you kidding? I was right? 361 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: We didn't have money? Right, we have money sheckles or something. 362 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 2: I ain't know where far back we was. 363 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 5: Going eight seven, seven ninety nine on Fox out to 364 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:07,520 Speaker 5: Gigge wherever she made? 365 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: The bottom line is pat Riley? Is he ce now? 366 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 5: Or is he right that the Heatles would have been 367 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,880 Speaker 5: a dynasty had Lebron stuck around and not bounced. 368 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 2: Let's go to MJ in thew Wall and join the 369 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 2: odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. What's up, MJ? What's good? 370 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:29,719 Speaker 10: What's happening with my brothers? Benny y Monday? 371 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 13: Man? 372 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:32,679 Speaker 2: What Kiggy could be? 373 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 4: There could have been dancing if only you could have 374 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:38,680 Speaker 4: saved her right? She had to go the other way. 375 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:45,359 Speaker 10: Come on, man, first, of all. It was the leadst 376 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 10: some time ference speech ring the Chicken Hawks, the Baby 377 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 10: Raptors and the Geriatric Celtics not one, but losing to 378 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 10: he was fifty percent in Wade County, even with two 379 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 10: other All Stars moving to Dirk after they clowned him. 380 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 10: Let's not forget that they did then losing again to 381 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:11,919 Speaker 10: the Spurs by NBA Finals record, and then pat Riley 382 00:18:12,520 --> 00:18:15,160 Speaker 10: took him cookies, you know, like Burnon Mack said. 383 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 13: So, now I. 384 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:19,720 Speaker 10: Don't think it would it would go. It would have 385 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,480 Speaker 10: went further with that, and that was prior to the 386 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 10: so called the way with the bad needs, prior to 387 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 10: the blood clots with the Bosh. So if he would 388 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 10: have stayed, who knows. But you know, Lebron likes his way. 389 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 10: That Riley runs a certain system, and they were playing 390 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,800 Speaker 10: the so called Lebron system. So now I don't think 391 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 10: it would. 392 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 13: Have worked out. 393 00:18:40,800 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 5: Lebron knew what he was doing. It wouldn't work. He 394 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,719 Speaker 5: wasn't gonna win there with those guys, Are you kidding? 395 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 2: He bounced, But I. 396 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 10: Thought Lebron was to go. He was the chosen one. 397 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 10: So what are you saying? 398 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 2: Man? 399 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 4: He wasn't winning with them and that's why he saw 400 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 4: that young He said, man, y'all see that young point 401 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:59,959 Speaker 4: god over there would Uh and c back in Cleveland. 402 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 4: Let me go back and play with Kyrie. What they 403 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,360 Speaker 4: about to draft Andrew Wiggins? Naug go get Kevin. 404 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 5: Love and I'll come back eight seven, seven ninety nine 405 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 5: on Fox? What about uh, Steve in Chicago? Steve, you're 406 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 5: in the odd couple of Fox Sports Radio. 407 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 2: What's up, buddy? How are you, Steve? 408 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 13: I'm good, guys. How are you doing well? 409 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 2: Brother? Thank you? 410 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 13: So I don't agree with the. 411 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,919 Speaker 14: Precipiti fall off of Dwayne Wade. I mean, he started 412 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 14: more than he played, like two more seasons. In Miami, 413 00:19:28,680 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 14: he started over sixty games, the akame in Chicago started 414 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 14: over sixty games. He averaged eighteen points, nineteen points in 415 00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 14: twenty one points in those three years. So I don't 416 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 14: feel like it's because Dwayne Wade fell off. I mean, 417 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,639 Speaker 14: obviously Lebron didn't think he could he could win. But 418 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 14: I mean that's that's Lebron's because he's not the goat. 419 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know, Wait a minute, what do 420 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 5: you say you think Lebron? You I think Lebron thought 421 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 5: that d Wade was like he couldn't win with him. Yeah, 422 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 5: I think he saw that early, right, and that might 423 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 5: have been used against him. You know how, you had 424 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 5: a anthimy conversation with your best end said he had. 425 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 14: Three more years where he was putting up at least 426 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 14: eighteen points after Lebron left. 427 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 4: Okay, I think you're over selling d Wade for what 428 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 4: we saw from him, and I think he saw ay, 429 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 4: I get what you're saying. I'm not saying the way 430 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 4: was a bum, but I think he saw a young 431 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 4: Kyrie Irving and he said, uh, I was some young knees. 432 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with that. 433 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 4: And remember remember remember Cleveland had the number one pick too, 434 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: so he knew that he could force his hand for 435 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 4: them to go get Kevin Love, who was just putting 436 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 4: up stupid crazy numbers in Minnesota to no avail. 437 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 14: So I'm not saying he decided to hitch his wagon 438 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 14: if somebody else can help. 439 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 2: Him get a tight Yes, and if you remember, I'll 440 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 2: never forget it. 441 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:48,960 Speaker 5: When Lebron wrote his letter, right, he didn't even mention 442 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:50,120 Speaker 5: the first overall pick. 443 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? When? When? 444 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 5: When when they decided to get Kevin Love who was Wiggins? 445 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 5: When he talked about like Wiggins was missing and that 446 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 5: about coming to Cleveland, it was yeah, we knew the deal. 447 00:21:04,359 --> 00:21:07,719 Speaker 5: Wiggins wasn't mentioned. Jenkins wrote the there, Well, why wouldn't 448 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 5: you mention the first overall pick because he don't exist? Okay, 449 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 5: he knew he won't gonna be there. What do you 450 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 5: mean while I'm imagining that we knew that wasn't existing 451 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 5: all right? 452 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 4: On the way, Rick Kamla hosted to be on the 453 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 4: Surface for x radis Camelot yet I We'll talk to 454 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,720 Speaker 4: him in a moment right now, Steve the Sega getting 455 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 4: caught up on what's trending, Hay Steve. 456 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,080 Speaker 11: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 457 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 11: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 458 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 11: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 459 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 11: listen live. 460 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 2: Steve, thank you so much. 461 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 4: As the odd couple, Rob and Kelvin on a Magic 462 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 4: City Monday. And Uh, of course we're just talking about 463 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:48,199 Speaker 4: this just here moments ago. Uh yeah, I think Lebron 464 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 4: we were just talking about a little bit off there 465 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 4: to Lebron saw Kyrie, saw young Kyrie who's getting better 466 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 4: and better, and he saw man, if I'm can go 467 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 4: get with this guy, go get Kevin Love and have 468 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 4: a new shot in the East. War Again, it wasn't 469 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 4: crazy loaded and then what he run out four straight 470 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,640 Speaker 4: final appearances with them going up against the Warriors. 471 00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 2: So did it? 472 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely saw that. And uh, pat Riley I think is understating, 473 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,120 Speaker 4: understelling how strenched he has been. 474 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 5: And how that wasn't gonna work. It's this whole idea 475 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: that all they're gonna Uh it would have been nice 476 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 5: we would have had one six champion. 477 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: No, you would not have. 478 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 4: First of all, you have Lakers who showtime Lakers were insane. 479 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: They went to nine I believe in the eighties and 480 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:27,640 Speaker 4: won five. So like the idea that they were gonna 481 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 4: be better than that is asking a lot, which that 482 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 4: is crazy. By the way, if the Lakers and completely 483 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 4: dominated a whole decade, to go to nine finals or 484 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 4: something in like an eleven year twelve year span is 485 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 4: absolutely crazy. 486 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 5: Oh, just look at the NBA. That's the history of 487 00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 5: a Look at the celt Look at the Celtics. I 488 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 5: mean the Celtics during their day, they went to the 489 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 5: championship all the time. 490 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know who knows a little bit about 491 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 4: all this good stuff we're talking about the NBA. Rick 492 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 4: Kamela does host of Beyond the Surface for X Rated Sports. 493 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 2: Rick, what's up man? How you know it happened? And 494 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:57,240 Speaker 2: how are you? 495 00:22:58,160 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 13: What's up? Fellas? 496 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 4: This game is off some hot Well, yeah, but I'm 497 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 4: watching online and sortsly Rick, right now, I can't see now? Yeah, Rick, 498 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 4: give me a peacock password talking logain real, Yeah, there 499 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 4: you go, send me that? 500 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 2: Do I send it over there? Oops? My bad? 501 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: Well tell us what ben start there though. We just 502 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 4: got the update obviously from Steve here. Two of the 503 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 4: best teams in the NBA, hottest teams right now and 504 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,600 Speaker 4: uh kind of mirror images of the last few years 505 00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:27,959 Speaker 4: been rough for both and then now they're both competing 506 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 4: and being really good. 507 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,680 Speaker 2: What are you liking right now from this game and 508 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:31,840 Speaker 2: more or less from both teams? 509 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 13: Yeah? You know what s cool is that Detroit has 510 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,119 Speaker 13: been to the playoffs, but this group has someone a 511 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 13: playoff series together. The Spurs haven't been to the playoffs, 512 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 13: so of course they haven't won a playoff series together. 513 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 13: But the Spurs and Pistons are my NBA finals right now, 514 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 13: and I know that's. 515 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 2: Probably prusion of the moment. Are you kidding, Rick? Really? 516 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 13: Yeah? Really, I'm telling you, the San Antonio Spurs are 517 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 13: going to beat the Oklahoma City under if they play 518 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 13: in the playoffs. OKAC has been it's been a revolving 519 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:09,280 Speaker 13: door of injuries, and it feels like a Clippers team 520 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 13: where it's like, oh, yeah, we'll be five. We just 521 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 13: get to the playoffs. We just get to the playoffs. 522 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 13: But they have no continuity, no chemistry, and its fizzles. 523 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 13: And I'm not saying Okayse is going out in the 524 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,560 Speaker 13: first round. What I'm saying is we already know that 525 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 13: San Antonio is an absolute bud saw for them, and 526 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 13: I think San Antonio is more hungry than OKAC is. 527 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 13: Okayse is satiated. They just got one last year, So yes, 528 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 13: I'm picking san Antonio to knock off OKAC. Detroit has 529 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 13: proven that they're better than New York Cleveland's fraudulent I 530 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 13: think fadom back. 531 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: Is a big time funny. 532 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 11: The Pistons beat the peristance. 533 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,159 Speaker 2: The Pistons beat the next three times last year and 534 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: lost in the playoffs, didn't they I mean, are you 535 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 2: really put are you? 536 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,639 Speaker 5: Are you putting all that stock into that the Pistons 537 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 5: are going to go from a team that's won two 538 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 5: playoff games in fifteen years to the NBA Finals. 539 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,880 Speaker 13: That's what I'm saying because you saw it tonight, Kate 540 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,119 Speaker 13: Cunningham shoving Castle to the floor. Kelden comes over and 541 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 13: Jalen Durant asks or acts like, you know, Keldon Johnson, 542 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 13: you know, was talking about his mom And I say 543 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:17,960 Speaker 13: that sartastically. But they're like so on edge, they're so hungry, 544 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 13: they're so aggressive, they're so nasty, Like they've got the 545 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 13: most nasty in the entire NBA. That's why they're punking 546 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 13: the New York Knicks right now. And you've got look, 547 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 13: Rob Kate has gone from a like an All Star 548 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 13: to an MVP candidate. Jalen Durrant's gone from a like, yeah, 549 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:39,680 Speaker 13: you're a double double, but I need so much more 550 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,120 Speaker 13: to fam He's an All Star. Osar Thompson is better, 551 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 13: Like a multitude of players on that team are better. 552 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 13: Tannis Jenkins, Ron Hollins flirting with a double double tonight. 553 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 13: So they're a way better team than they were. No, 554 00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 13: they're not winning tonight, because the team that's gonna win 555 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,040 Speaker 13: the Championship. The San Antonio Spurs is doing what they do. 556 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 13: I mean, you've got all five starters in doubles, good 557 00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 13: contributions off the bench and Devin Besells having a kickoffs 558 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:11,440 Speaker 13: night and lifting everybody up. Well. 559 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 2: Also, you left out Kate Cunningham is five of twenty five. 560 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,720 Speaker 2: That is awful. That doesn't help. 561 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 5: Five, there's your MVP in the big game against the Spurs, 562 00:26:25,600 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 5: five for twenty five, that one first place MVP vote. 563 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,640 Speaker 2: They just took back. They might they might for day 564 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,600 Speaker 2: four day they might, they might five for twenty five. 565 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 2: Rob g the big in the big spot. That was 566 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,680 Speaker 2: a big game. Ok. Still they're still in it, only 567 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 2: down eleven four minutes. 568 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 13: You guys, they got dogs on San Antonio. Champenny can guard, 569 00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 13: Fox can guard, but Sell can guard. I mean specifically, 570 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 13: Castle and Kate have been going at it like stealed 571 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:56,560 Speaker 13: and sword all night. But the Spurs guy Dylan Harper 572 00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 13: can guard. They get a bunch of guys that can guard. Man. 573 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,359 Speaker 13: They Nick gets tough on guys like kids who just 574 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 13: went seventeen of thirty four against the New York Knicks. 575 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 4: Well, you know what, Rick, That leads me to this 576 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 4: question here Rick Cambelo on with the Odd Couple Fox 577 00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 4: Sports Radio. You know this the concept of the We 578 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:15,920 Speaker 4: were just talking about the story about the Heatles and 579 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 4: how pat Riley thought they should have had more rings, 580 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 4: so on and so forth. One of the things that 581 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 4: we've seen, and I've been talking to Rob about this, 582 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 4: is we're seeing a lot more of this. Just get 583 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 4: a bunch of young guys early who can play, who 584 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,000 Speaker 4: can get, They're you know, they're fast, they're hungry, they 585 00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 4: play great defense, and you're kind of seeing the guys. 586 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:33,760 Speaker 4: They don't have a bunch of star names. You mentioned 587 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 4: all those names of the Spurs. You mentioned those names 588 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,280 Speaker 4: on the Pissons. You look at the Thundays of course, 589 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 4: Wimby and just like you gotta have somebody's gonna be 590 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 4: a start the team. I'm saying you don't have a 591 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:43,840 Speaker 4: bunch of them going over the days of having four 592 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 4: or five stars. You're just seeing a bunch of scrappy dudes. 593 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 4: Is that kind of the makeup of the NBA now 594 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 4: where you just got a bunch of guys who I 595 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 4: call it the line shift, where we bring in two 596 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 4: or three guys at a time and just say, hey, 597 00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 4: give me the best five minutes that you can and 598 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 4: I'll bring in another three. 599 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 13: The phenomenal question and the answer is yes, because with 600 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 13: the Second Apron issue, in first Apron issue, you can't 601 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,320 Speaker 13: have three max players anymore. That's why if Lebron wants 602 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 13: to go back to the Lakers, you're gonna have Luca 603 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,880 Speaker 13: and Reeves is gonna get a whole bunch of money, 604 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 13: and Lebron can't make a whole bunch of money if 605 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 13: he wants to stay there. Frankly, Lebron can't make top 606 00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 13: dollar if he wants to play anywhere, Like he's got 607 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 13: to play at like twenty five or thirty, like you know, 608 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 13: kind of that second tier of like big money, but 609 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:30,439 Speaker 13: you're not making the big big money because the Second 610 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 13: Apron just forces teams to operate that way. So yes, 611 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 13: you have to build a crew. You have to be deep, 612 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:41,479 Speaker 13: and the spurs are brilliant, of course they always are. 613 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 13: You need to be great at guard in the NBA 614 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 13: right now. You've got to be able to guard, and 615 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 13: you've got to be able to score and be dynamic 616 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 13: and athletic and extra and ultra and not just good 617 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 13: but great and have a multitude of that right, and 618 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 13: shot makers, and then you got Wemby and Cornet's a 619 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 13: good backup big and you guys know that. But I 620 00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 13: mean you got Wemby. I mean this guy, this guy's 621 00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:08,880 Speaker 13: the limit, dude. I mean he's looking up at Will 622 00:29:09,040 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 13: going okay, He's looking up at Jordan going okay. And 623 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 13: I can't wait to watch what happens. 624 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 15: Man. 625 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,040 Speaker 2: Yeah about how about Jaylen Brown season? 626 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 13: Uh? 627 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 5: When you when you think about uh, most people wrote 628 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,920 Speaker 5: off the Celtics as this was going to be a 629 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: lost season. Uh, and they weren't going to be a 630 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:29,000 Speaker 5: factor along with Indiana, and instead they were in the mix. 631 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 5: He's having a great year and they were only three 632 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 5: games off of where they were a year ago, you know, 633 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 5: when they had Jason Tatum. Well, just your thoughts on 634 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 5: on the Celtics. 635 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 13: He's number two on my MVP ballot right now. I 636 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 13: want to give you I love Jalen Brown. I've been 637 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 13: telling people for years as the batman, he is a 638 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 13: fifty win player and at least a second round player. 639 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 13: And then with Tatum, of course, it kind of it 640 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 13: stacks the deck pretty favorably for them. I'm working at 641 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,080 Speaker 13: NBA TV back in the damn in the makeup room. 642 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,080 Speaker 13: Jalen's on with us that night. He comes in with 643 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 13: you know, a buddy or whatever, and I go, Jalen, 644 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 13: hey man, you're Rick Kamla A big fan. He's like, 645 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 13: hey man, what's up. I'm like, I'm like, dude, I 646 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 13: see you being an All Star in like three or 647 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 13: four years. Any any grimace and he said, he said, 648 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 13: it's gonna happen way sooner than that. Okay, so do 649 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 13: you give me? And he was like like kind of 650 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 13: steely about it. And we had a good night on 651 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 13: the air and that kind of thing. But I'll let 652 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 13: you know, Jalen is one of the true badasses in 653 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 13: the NBA right now. I'm a big fan. He's number 654 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 13: two on my list. 655 00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. 656 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 4: I was telling Rob we were having just a debate. 657 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,640 Speaker 4: I said, I got kid over him. But he's had 658 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 4: a phenomenal season. And a caller said something I was 659 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 4: echoing that he's actually been kind of underrated the last 660 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,440 Speaker 4: three four years, where he doesn't get picked for the 661 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 4: Olympic team, he's kind of not mentioned in certain things, 662 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,959 Speaker 4: and he's been just really good for the last handful 663 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 4: of years. So it's good to see him getting his 664 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 4: just due? What about the last one? 665 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 7: For me? 666 00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: What about the Knicks? Where are we? 667 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 4: This is a supposed to be their season, This is 668 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 4: supposed to be where they get to the finals. But 669 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 4: I hear you talking about the Pistons. Are you talking 670 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 4: about the Celtics. I would imagine maybe you say Cleveland's fraudulent. 671 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 4: But where the Knicks for you? 672 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,960 Speaker 2: Right now? Since they got James Harden as well, they've 673 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 2: actually been. 674 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 13: Six and one now with them, I believe regular seas 675 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 13: and clap clap, clap clap. 676 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: You've seen this before. 677 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 11: Huh. 678 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 13: Look, I believe Donovan Mitchell is a championship robin. Okay, 679 00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 13: if you get him with the right batman, it's on 680 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 13: and popping. 681 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 4: Uh. 682 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 13: But James Harden is going to choke in a Game 683 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 13: five or a Game six or Game seven. It's all 684 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 13: going to fizzle again. And Cleveland lacks dog, They lack toughness, 685 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 13: they lack heart, they lack intangibles. They're super super talented. 686 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 13: But to the Knicks, I totally disagreed with firing Tom 687 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 13: Thibodeaux and hiring Mike Brown. The nixt to me, statistically, 688 00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 13: the numbers look good, they're slightly better than Tibbs last 689 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 13: year offensively and defensively. I get that when I watched 690 00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 13: the team, the I test is a fail for me 691 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 13: versus what I saw last guys. Pat's best year of 692 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 13: his career was with Timbs, because Pat kind of needs 693 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 13: a booting his butt, you know what I mean? And 694 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 13: Tips provides that. 695 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, well wait a minute, but Rick, Rick, But but Tibbs. 696 00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 5: Last year, after beating the Celtics, they blew a fourteen 697 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:28,040 Speaker 5: point lead with two minutes to go at home. They 698 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,239 Speaker 5: didn't show up for Game two, right, they get back 699 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 5: in the series and they lost the series. That people 700 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,400 Speaker 5: thought after they beat the Celtics they were going to 701 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 5: the finals, like like, that was an epic fail And 702 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 5: I think that's why Tibbs got fired. You didn't think 703 00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 5: that after they beat the Celtics they were going to 704 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,080 Speaker 5: win and to lose a game like they lost to 705 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,560 Speaker 5: Indiana at home in Game one, where they dominated that 706 00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:53,160 Speaker 5: game almost entire game, and to give that game up 707 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 5: and then not respond at home, that was. 708 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 2: A that was a fail for me. 709 00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 13: Well, I look at it this way. I give the 710 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 13: Pacers credit, and I think the Pacers validated that. We 711 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 13: got to look at that a little differently by the 712 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 13: fact that they went to Game seven against O case see, 713 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 13: and if Hallie doesn't blow a tire, maybe they win 714 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 13: the championship. 715 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 716 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,680 Speaker 5: But the only problem is no one had ever lost 717 00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 5: a lead like that. It was like eleven and fifty 718 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 5: five games to zero. No one had ever lost a 719 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 5: game like that, up by fourteen with two and a 720 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 5: half minutes to go. 721 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 13: But but then you could look at Indiana and go, 722 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 13: They're the first team to ever do that. You can 723 00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 13: look at it the other ways. That's one of those 724 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 13: like we did it. You know, do you do you 725 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 13: credit this team for the win or blame this team 726 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 13: for the loss. I mean, it's a very good debate. 727 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 13: But I'm a teams guy, dude, and I think this 728 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 13: team needs a hard ass coach. They're a hard ass team, 729 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 13: and I think they've lost their edge a little bit 730 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 13: under Mike Brown and guys I worked with Mike Brown. 731 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 13: I love Mike Brown. I want Mike Brown to leave 732 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 13: the Knicks to the championship, but I think this team, 733 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 13: this group of players, requires a hardouse coach. They responded 734 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 13: to Tims. They went to pretty big nights with him 735 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 13: with I think more in store and they went a 736 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 13: different direction. 737 00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: Man, Well, hey, Rick, I'm not. 738 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 13: Feeling the strength and the force that I felt last year. 739 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 4: All right, yeah, we'll leave it there. I was, I thought, 740 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: Keith TIBs he did, and we used to argue about that. 741 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 4: All right, appreciate you, Rick. 742 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 2: Thank you so much. Would get fired. I wouldn't chock, 743 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: not at all. 744 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 13: Thank you guys. 745 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:24,919 Speaker 2: Thanks right, no doubt. 746 00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 4: All right, on the way, Last call Rob already there, 747 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,560 Speaker 4: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Last Call eight 748 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 4: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. Your chance to get 749 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 4: in with the hot couple. 750 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 2: Hit us up. It's Fox Sports Radio. 751 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:37,000 Speaker 11: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 752 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 11: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 753 00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 11: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 754 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:45,399 Speaker 11: listen live. 755 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 4: Oh boy, it must be a Magic City Monday. It 756 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 4: must be the last block and it must be Marymack 757 00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 4: on the ones and two. Is this the odd couple? 758 00:34:55,160 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 4: Rob Parker kelvin Washington on a Magic City Monday. 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How you doing? 769 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 15: Thanks for taking a call. 770 00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 2: Listen. 771 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,800 Speaker 15: I realized it's a magic city Monday for hearing the Commonwealth. 772 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,760 Speaker 15: It's a make it stop, make it stop snowing Monday, 773 00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:55,600 Speaker 15: because we got more snow than the bridget of seventy eight. 774 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: Zoey, how many inches you got there? How many inches? Uh? 775 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: You got hurt snow? 776 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 13: You got to hurry about twenty four inches on the tape, 777 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,279 Speaker 13: but across the. 778 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: Commonwealth twenty four inches? 779 00:36:07,239 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 13: Yeah with the wind. 780 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 4: That's what Robie told you at the thirty You weren't 781 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 4: trying to hear him. No, I ain't twelve. Didn't you 782 00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 4: tell him thirty inches? Who said Mary? I'm sorry? Mary 783 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 4: mentioned that and you thought she was crazy. 784 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 785 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 15: Out out in New Bedford and going towards Providence, they 786 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 15: got well over thirty inches in eclipse yeah, I Blizzard 787 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 15: of seventy eight. So yeah, I'm in the I'm in 788 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 15: the darkness here, but we're still checking in with you. 789 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: You want to reconsider, you want to do a zoom rob, 790 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 4: go ahead and zoom in, but we're holding it down 791 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 4: and hopefully they get the power back on the mark. 792 00:36:37,560 --> 00:36:40,279 Speaker 15: Pat Riley, listen, I'm glad you got your statue, all right. 793 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 2: I just I just got one question. Is this snow 794 00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 2: white or black? Man? That's what I want to know, guys. 795 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 15: I believe it's so white, you know, But once I 796 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 15: get out there, and I might have to bulldoze some 797 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 15: of it, you know, so I can get back out 798 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:54,560 Speaker 15: and be part of civilization, you know, so some of 799 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 15: it will turn black. But pat Riley, listen, if you 800 00:36:57,160 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 15: could have then you would have, right, you had your 801 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 15: four opportui unity. You squandered away the finals against the 802 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 15: Dallas Maverick ray Allen gifted you one. Okay on that 803 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 15: three point of the San Antonio Spurs. We're going to 804 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 15: take you the first time, and then they modeled Molly 805 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,200 Speaker 15: walked through the second time. All right, So you went 806 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 15: two for four, okay, but it really could have been 807 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 15: one for three in terms of your championships, so that 808 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,200 Speaker 15: that group, it had the potential for four five sixty seven, 809 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,000 Speaker 15: but data materialized like they did, like they could have, 810 00:37:24,360 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 15: and lebron took its towns back to Cleveland. So it 811 00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 15: was underwhelming in terms of their place in the all 812 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 15: time great team. 813 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:37,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, apreciated Ray from the Commonweld stay stay warm. 814 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 2: Thirty inches. 815 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,080 Speaker 5: That's ridiculous, Yeah, unbelievable. Can you believe spent so many 816 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 5: years of your life in Connecticut. It just just all Eastchool, 817 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 5: you know, Cincinnati, Detroit, New York, all that. That's when 818 00:37:49,800 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 5: we get out here. It's hard to leave, isn't it 819 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:52,320 Speaker 5: It is? 820 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 4: It really is seventy six degrees seventy seven none but sunshine. 821 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:58,160 Speaker 4: It's about to be eighties the rest of the week. 822 00:37:58,719 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 4: It's hard to leave that when you get out, No, no, no, 823 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,680 Speaker 4: no doubt about it. I mean, if you have fun 824 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 4: at Syracuse, remember it's for the kids. 825 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: It's for the kids. I'm going to Syracuse atitude. 826 00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 5: I got my gloves, packed, my hat, my coat, all 827 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,640 Speaker 5: of that to go to Syracuse for a couple of days. 828 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:17,680 Speaker 5: But new house, I mean an opportunity to speak to 829 00:38:17,719 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 5: the students, A new house I just could not pass up, 830 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,080 Speaker 5: so I'm gonna go. 831 00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:23,160 Speaker 2: You also didn't know it's gonna be five feet of snow. 832 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, but not there. They don't have two inches there, 833 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 5: all right. It's down south, it's down towards. Making sure 834 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 5: it's early, and. 835 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm not going there. If it was thirty inches, the 836 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 2: flight would be canceled. It's not canceled. Just make sure 837 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 2: you were the last time we checked. I checked. 838 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 4: My flight's not canceled. You have some safe travels, my friend. Yes, 839 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 4: we'll have a great time. See what a few will 840 00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,879 Speaker 4: have a great time the next couple of days as well. 841 00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,960 Speaker 2: Enjoy it. That's right, man, bring a shovel.