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Speaker 2: MILLI feeling healthy post COVID, feeling great. How are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Just fine? I have this weird feeling that this episode

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Speaker 1: is going to feature you a lot, right.

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Speaker 2: Dearly beloved. Yes, uh, I have a lot to say

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Speaker 2: about Prince. I feel like I have a very personal

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Speaker 2: a lot to say about the Purple One as well.

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Speaker 1: That's right. I am really excited to dive into the

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Speaker 1: Prince universe, the Prince Multiverse.

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Speaker 2: The Prince Cinematic Universe, which we are going to touch upon,

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Speaker 2: and I'm excited to talk about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a fan of the PCU, but I also

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Speaker 1: we've kind of dangled that topic in previous episodes of

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Speaker 2: I feel like I have a lot of thoughts about that.

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Speaker 1: I know you do. I know you do, and I

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Speaker 1: other films. And I know he didn't make many films,

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Speaker 1: but listen, stay tuned, everybody, Okay, I think we're gonna

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Speaker 1: have a lot of fun. Okay, let's have some action.

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Speaker 1: Let's have some asses wiggling.

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Speaker 2: Asses wiggling. Millie demanded that we had asses wiggling on

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Speaker 1: I want some perfection.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that's right, Millie. And you know what I always say,

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Speaker 2: my door, you know what I mean. So, uh, that's

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Speaker 1: Very much agreed. So stay tuned. You're listening to Dear Movies. Dear,

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Speaker 1: I love you, and I've got to love me to

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Speaker 1: check the books. Hey, everybody, this is Dear Movies, I

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Speaker 1: Love You, a podcast for those who are in a

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Speaker 1: relationship with movies, very very tight, close, long term relationship,

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Speaker 1: As you may know. My name is Millie.

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Speaker 2: To Jericho, I'm Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, this is gonna be great. We're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about the Purple One Prince.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because his birthday is coming up?

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Speaker 1: Oh is it?

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Speaker 2: Ah? Yes? Wait what June seventh is his birthday? I believe?

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Speaker 1: Oh so he's a Gemini. Huh makes sense makes some

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Speaker 1: Well, that's great because I know a lot. I mean

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Speaker 1: I mean, you know, he can be sexy and sweet,

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Speaker 1: Wait, what are you You're I'm a Capricorn, no wonder.

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Speaker 2: One time I was in in film school, I used

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Speaker 2: Right now, he's a mess, but in ten years he's

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Speaker 1: Well, look at you. You're on another level.

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Speaker 2: On another level. I'm on a podcast. Yes, the prophecy

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Speaker 1: Okay, what day is it? What time is it?

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Speaker 2: Today is Friday? We are recording this Friday, May sixteen?

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Speaker 2: I see, I see. I didn't realize that. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you can't just do that, Max? What does that even mean?

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Speaker 1: It's like or yo yo the streaming service for you

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Speaker 2: You, very messy, very publicly messy. You remember when Netflix

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Speaker 2: Is there an exclamation point at the end of ye? Sure? Okay, cool?

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Speaker 1: Sure it could be yot yeah yo, and then I

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Speaker 2: You kind of know how to like literally, you're like

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Speaker 2: It's just funny they're kind of like realizing that thing

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Speaker 1: Well, it's like you look at these companies that have

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it's on max Yo, you know it's uh,

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Speaker 1: I demand a huge check if they're gonna buy max Yo,

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Speaker 2: AnyWho. I just wanted to get I just wanted your

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they were helpful, but that was

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Speaker 2: Emotionally, they were helpful like a bomb. All right, we're

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Speaker 1: The funk of forty thousand years.

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Speaker 2: Why do our diaries stink? So much smells like you know.

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Speaker 1: I was like, old man, it's crazy old bandages.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so let me preface all of this by saying,

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Speaker 1: I didn't really watch a lot this week.

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Speaker 2: MILLI lived this week.

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Speaker 1: I did.

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Speaker 1: I have type of movies. I was not living life. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I did a few things. I did a DJ set.

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Speaker 2: In Atlanta, So Millie, I need to come to one

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Speaker 2: of your DJ sets at some point in my life.

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Speaker 1: You should. I'll DJ for if you have a party. Oh,

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Speaker 2: All right, We're moving on to our main discussion, which

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Speaker 2: we teased at the top, is Prince and Purple Rain. Millie,

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Speaker 2: do you have a favorite Prince album? Do you listen

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Speaker 1: All right, I'm not gonna even answer that second part whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely not answering that second part. Okay, fine, first part.

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Speaker 1: Let me think about this. I Jesus Christ. I mean,

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Speaker 1: to be honest, it's probably Diamonds and Pearls. That's like

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Speaker 2: Right, even watching the movie this time, I was like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I truly think you're right about that. Like it's

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Speaker 2: I'm not joking. I really think it is like the

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Speaker 1: Listen, I'm with you. I feel I feel like it

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Speaker 1: So that's the thing. I'm like, Okay, Well, Purple Rain

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Speaker 2: That song goes oh, that is a great that would

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Speaker 1: shit banana. It's like I love that, so like that

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Speaker 2: Well, Like I said, I love, Purple Rain is the

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Speaker 2: There's a lot of really good stuff on that that

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Speaker 2: Oh and you know, it's interesting there's so much night

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Speaker 2: And so it's kind of exciting that there's all this

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Speaker 1: I hear you. I mean you're like, I kind of

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Speaker 1: I mean I remember when like Rave Onto the Joy

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Speaker 2: I Rave They Fantastic. Yes, I was just like, okay again.

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Speaker 1: It's kind of that feeling like we talked about while

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Speaker 1: we were discussing Ellenda Lawn movies, where you're just like

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Speaker 1: I want to be comprehensive, but you know, let's get serious, Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like what I like, and I like my nostalgia

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Speaker 2: Yes, So I wrote this It wasn't public anywhere, but

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Speaker 2: I wrote when he died, I wrote this really long

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Speaker 2: my mom had the which is this is a really

433
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,360
Speaker 2: great This is a great actually entry point to get

434
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 2: into Princes is the Hits Slash B Sides compilation. And

435
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: you know, the hits are the first two albums, but

436
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 2: then there's like the B sides, which has like a

437
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: lot of the albums, a lot of the great songs

438
00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 2: that just weren't on an album, like seventeen Days, which

439
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,679
Speaker 2: is one of my favorite print songs, and like Erotic

440
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 2: City Classic, and you know, I really liked the song Kiss.

441
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,639
Speaker 2: That was like that was the first song that I

442
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 2: like loved as a kid, And so I put on

443
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 2: my mom's Hits Slash B side. Do you know how

444
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: when you're a kid, you like pretend to have like

445
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:55,160
Speaker 2: a radio station, and so you're like, I was trying

446
00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 2: to find Kiss on the Hits album. I didn't know

447
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,960
Speaker 2: where it was on the tape, you know. And I

448
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: put on the song Sexy MF which has like the

449
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: lyrics like you sexy motherfucked, and my mom. I hear

450
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:11,440
Speaker 2: my mom running down the stairs and then turns off

451
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:15,800
Speaker 2: the the stereo and it's like, do not listen to

452
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: side too of this tape. And so it was kind

453
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 2: of a moment where I was like, Ooh, Prince is

454
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 2: like scandalous or like dangerous or something, you know, because

455
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,360
Speaker 2: my mom was like, do not listen to side too,

456
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 2: you know, So he was always kind of like, you know,

457
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 2: this interesting, dangerous figure in some ways. Yeah, so that

458
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 2: was how I first sort of discovered him. Yeah, you know,

459
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 2: but he's my hometown guy too. Yeah, yeah, you know,

460
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:49,439
Speaker 2: I'm with you. Kiss was absolutely the first time I

461
00:25:49,480 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 2: ever saw Prince.

462
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I remember because that saw came out in

463
00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: eighty six, so I was like maybe I was probably

464
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 1: like seven or eight years old, and I remember watching

465
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,360
Speaker 1: it on MTV. They used to play the shit out

466
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: of it on MTV in the music video, and it

467
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:10,119
Speaker 1: was this like moment. You know, I talk about being

468
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 1: a young woman and being like activated by like certain gentlemen,

469
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: older gentleman when you know, it's like when you're a

470
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: young person and you see you're kind of developing your

471
00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: like I don't know your sexual feelings or your romantic feelings,

472
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:28,800
Speaker 1: and you see like people on TV or in movies

473
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 1: or like musicians, and you're just like, whoa, they're like

474
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 1: really like forming me right now. And I remember seeing

475
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: the video for Kiss, and there was just so many

476
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: like weird emotions that I was having because the song

477
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 1: itself is is fun and danceable and like, you know,

478
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 1: like has somebody weird weird and so many classic weird,

479
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: funny lines if you think about it, like you don't

480
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: have to watch Dynasty to have an attitude. Like I

481
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: was like, oh, Dynasty is on TV right now. I

482
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 1: know exactly what he's talking about. My mom's obsessed with Dynasty.

483
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: So it was that feeling of like kind of the lyrics.

484
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: But then the video because it's like, Okay, first of all,

485
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: you've got Prince himself who is like in that like

486
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:17,080
Speaker 1: little titty top, like the little crop top with the

487
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,399
Speaker 1: like breakaway kind of ballero pants, and he's like dancing

488
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: sexually with this woman in like a veil and sunglasses,

489
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:27,959
Speaker 1: and she's like wearing bikini black bikini bottoms and you're

490
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,919
Speaker 1: just like, holy fuck, I feel like I'm watching a

491
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: porno right now. I don't know why. And then it

492
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 1: cuts to like Wendy who was you know Lisa Wendy

493
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 1: in The Revolution, and she's kind of playing the guitar

494
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,480
Speaker 1: and there's like this moment where he like gets in

495
00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: her ear and she like winces, and I thought that

496
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: was so cute when I was growing up, like she

497
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 1: kind of like they kind of have this like playful

498
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: relationship in that vein.

499
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 2: There's a moment that that happens in Purple Rain too,

500
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,879
Speaker 2: where he goes up to her and she kind of

501
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:56,400
Speaker 2: like is like.

502
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is so I'm gonna say that the term

503
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: that gen Z kids use, which is it's so meat coated.

504
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: I love so it is I like wincing or like

505
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: rolling your eyes when this guy is like coming up

506
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:17,360
Speaker 1: to you and like you know, trying to rise you basically,

507
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 1: but in a very playful, fun way. And that's like

508
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: I love that. I like love that moment. And that

509
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,120
Speaker 1: was the part of the video which I was like, Oh,

510
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 1: that's that's what's making it fun for me as like

511
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: a kid, like seeing this kind of interaction. But then

512
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: there's also this like heavy sexuality and you know Princess

513
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: has so much body confidence. Yeah, it's this like he

514
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 1: just knows how to work his shit. And I think

515
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: that that was a very eightious thing for men, Like

516
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: eighties masculinity in a lot of rock and roll and

517
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,640
Speaker 1: like in you know, R and B music was very

518
00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: much about like men who were pretty much in their underwear.

519
00:28:57,560 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: I think about like people like David Lee Roth similarly,

520
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 1: where it was like these are people who are in

521
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: very tight clothing who are just owning sexuality, and the

522
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: men have like accountenance to them or sort of a

523
00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: confidence to them. That was very alluring to me as

524
00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 1: a child. And I feel like that kind of fell

525
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: by the wayside, like guys are not wanting to you know.

526
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 2: It's goofy too. It's like, yes, silly like like that

527
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,959
Speaker 2: that got really lost along the way, like being silly,

528
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: like men have to be so stoic now.

529
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 1: Well, but their silliness is in a different way. It's

530
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:39,320
Speaker 1: like their silliness is like gym from the office. They're

531
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: like goofy making jokes. There's not like guys out there

532
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 1: that are kind of like licking their index finger and

533
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 1: like rubbing their nips or anything like in this like

534
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: very fun, playful but also like sexual way. It's very

535
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: like I mean, it seems kind of aggressive, I guess

536
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: from a long lens, but at the same time, it's

537
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,520
Speaker 1: it really is not. It feels very like seductive but

538
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 1: with a w kind of feeling. And that's like Prince

539
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 1: to me in a nutshell. And this is why I

540
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: became like obsessed with him as a kid, because I

541
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 1: just I loved people like that. I loved these, you know,

542
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,959
Speaker 1: kind of sexual performers like Madonna and Prince and George

543
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 1: Michael and people who were just really like putting it on.

544
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: So I loved Prince and that's kind of like when

545
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: I discovered him as that kiss era.

546
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:26,280
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Well should we get into the movie

547
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,560
Speaker 2: Purple Range? Should I give a little synopsis?

548
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,440
Speaker 1: This is me. I'm clapping like I'm in the audience,

549
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: So go ahead.

550
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 2: Oh man, wouldn't you don't you just wish you were

551
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 2: in one of the people with crazy makeup and hair

552
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: in the audience of First av Like I love the

553
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 2: intro secrets of this movie where it's just kind of

554
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 2: like these faces of audience members in this like new

555
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: wave scene, just like it's amazing.

556
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,120
Speaker 1: I listen, I was gonna talk about this, but like

557
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 1: the shots of the crowd, especially at the end like

558
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: when they're the Purple Rain sequence, It's like, can you

559
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,320
Speaker 1: fucking imagine being there?

560
00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:09,360
Speaker 2: See my god, I'm getting emotional just thinking about getting chills. Okay,

561
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 2: So Purple Rain came out in nineteen eighty four, directed

562
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 2: by Albert Magnoli, which is this is like kind of

563
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 2: one of the only things he ever did. It's kind

564
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 2: of wild. But we're in Minneapolis, baby, It's nineteen eighty four.

565
00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 2: First AV is the hottest club in the world. It's

566
00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: where people go to make it in Minneapolis. Who knew?

567
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: Uh?

568
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: The Kid played by Prince is one of the biggest

569
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 2: stars of First AV, but he's getting on everyone's fucking nerves.

570
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: There's ongoing conflict in his band and his biggest rival,

571
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,960
Speaker 2: Morris Day, is looking to take him down. Enter the

572
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: beautiful Apollonia. Princess smitten but is unwilling to help her

573
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:53,840
Speaker 2: music career, so she teams up with Morris, his rival,

574
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 2: to start the girl group Apollonia six. This piss is

575
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: off the kid. Tensions rise in his personal and professional life.

576
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 2: Will the Kid come out on top?

577
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: Who knows?

578
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: That's Purple Rien?

579
00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: Very well done?

580
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 2: One thing? I love you know. I'm going to just

581
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 2: talk about Minneapolis. Let's go and Prince go. You know,

582
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 2: I think when people think of Minneapolis for the longest time,

583
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,240
Speaker 2: they think of Fargo, and they think of the Coen Brothers,

584
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: and they think of white people, and like stupid white people,

585
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 2: like kind of hicic, rednecky, kinda doficit white people, you know.

586
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 1: Like rose Enyland from The Golden.

587
00:32:37,640 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 2: Girls, yes, exactly, or like drop dead gorgeous. But for me,

588
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: as someone who grew up in Minneapolis, the city.

589
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: Were you sorry?

590
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: I wasn't born here. I was born in Saint Louis,

591
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 2: but my family's from Minnesota, and uh so my parents

592
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 2: were briefly in Missouri, and I was born in Saint

593
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:01,960
Speaker 2: Louis and when I was three, we moved to Minneapolis,

594
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 2: and growing up there, I always thought of it as

595
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 2: more of like a cultural cool city that's artsy and

596
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 2: diverse and interesting. And so Purple Rain and Prince fit

597
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: that vision of the city a little bit more for me.

598
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: And it's cool watching Purple Rain because it feels kind

599
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 2: of like a mini New York or something. It feels

600
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 2: like a cultural hub in the movie. Now, some of

601
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 2: this film was shot in la like some of those

602
00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:39,000
Speaker 2: scenes where he's like under bridges on a motorcycle and

603
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 2: there's like an exterior shot of a hotel. But for

604
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 2: the most part it was shot in Minneapolis and downtown Minneapolis.

605
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: And I think Prince has done so much for Minneapolis

606
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,239
Speaker 2: because I think he really he's like Bruce Springsteen and

607
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: that he is proud of being from here. He holds

608
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 2: it up, he celebrates it. He lived here, and it's

609
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 2: cool to have someone to lead the way like that.

610
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 2: And I he was always a hero of mine, just

611
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: sort of artistically, even like when I moved to Los Angeles,

612
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: I could kind of point to Prince and be like, Yeah,

613
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: we're from the same place, and he's someone from my

614
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,399
Speaker 2: hometown that's like weird and celebrated and isn't a hick,

615
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 2: you know, And so Prince for me, I hold incredibly

616
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,960
Speaker 2: near and dear to my heart. He is the only

617
00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 2: when he died I cried. I've never cried because the

618
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 2: celebrity died, and he just because he just really meant

619
00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: so much to him. It was such an inspiration and

620
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,560
Speaker 2: like kept me going a lot of the times when

621
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 2: you know, it's so easy to like doubt yourself in

622
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 2: any sort of creative field and to feel like, well,

623
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 2: Prince did it and we're from the same place. Yeah,

624
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 2: and so I just love him and I love that

625
00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:02,200
Speaker 2: he's from my hometown. And I'm so proud that he's

626
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: from my hometown. You know, that's cool, that's so cool.

627
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I yeah, I do think I cannot

628
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: separate his I can't separate your town from him, which

629
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:15,839
Speaker 1: is I think important because then it does anchor him

630
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,080
Speaker 1: into it, which is why you feel so much pride

631
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:22,240
Speaker 1: and so much love for him, but so purple rating

632
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,839
Speaker 1: the movie, Yes, do you like is there any kind

633
00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: of like I'm sure there's so much mythology around it,

634
00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:33,880
Speaker 1: like where you are, like in terms of the people

635
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: like film, like or do you know people that.

636
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:36,400
Speaker 2: Were in it?

637
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 1: Do you know, like you know that's interesting. I don't

638
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: really know.

639
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. You know, it was filmed nineteen eighty four.

640
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: I was born in nineteen eighty eight, so it's a

641
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 2: little bit you know, obviously happening before my time. But

642
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,439
Speaker 2: you know, I think that first most of this movie

643
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 2: takes place at first av right, and so like all

644
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 2: of the kind of like energy and mythology that this

645
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: movie you know, emanates, it's it's still connected to First AV.

646
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 2: Like First AV is still the place, like it is

647
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 2: the venue. So that's sort of like the legacy I

648
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 2: think of the movies mythology.

649
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, is it still the kind of thing where like

650
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 1: a person like Apollonia would travel from New Orleans to

651
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: like play it first That's so interesting.

652
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:32,400
Speaker 2: Lizzo is from Houston, but she moved to Minnesota. I

653
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 2: don't know if it was because of First AV, but

654
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:38,360
Speaker 2: she like got her musical start here. So people are

655
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:43,080
Speaker 2: still moving to Minneapolis to like do music in that way.

656
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: Wow, that's fascinating.

657
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well.

658
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: Listen, I I'm just so fascinated by the idea of you,

659
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: like being such a Prince fan and having him be

660
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of your hometown hero, and the idea that this

661
00:36:59,719 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: movie Purple Rain, like I should know a ton about

662
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: the backstory of like how I mean, I know that

663
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: Prince really wanted to be in a movie. Like wasn't

664
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: that the story where he's basically like, I'm gonna make

665
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: a movie about me or else I'm out of here.

666
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like I'm not making another record until

667
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 2: like there's a movie about me. And this is sort

668
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,720
Speaker 2: of it's sort of a cross a Crossroads, like Britney

669
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 2: Spear is similar backstory where he kind of came up

670
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 2: with the bones of a story and then Albert Magnoli

671
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 2: like wrote a script and directed it sort of based

672
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: off of that.

673
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,880
Speaker 1: Do you know if there was a lot of his

674
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 1: like personal story in the movie, because there is some

675
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: sort of like it feels anchored to his life, his

676
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 1: real life, but then there's also like things that are

677
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: not Like I wanted to ask you about this, so

678
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,920
Speaker 1: like his parents were both black.

679
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:57,080
Speaker 2: They were both black, and I know Prince's mom was

680
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 2: upset that there was a white woman playing her in

681
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 2: this movie.

682
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 1: Well, and then that's maybe gonna come up again as

683
00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: I sort of walk around with my feelings about Purple Rain,

684
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 1: because I was like, I mean, yeah, I would be

685
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: upset too, by the way, if like this movie just

686
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: put a white lady in my place. Yeah, you know, well,

687
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: and there's so many like real life like his real

688
00:38:21,719 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 1: band is in the movie, right, yes, And there's this

689
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 1: whole you know, backstory or like b story about his

690
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: band basically hating him. Yeah, and you know Wendy and Lisa,

691
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: who are you know, the two women in the Revolution

692
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: who are like, hey, we wrote a song, you should

693
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: accept it and let us play it, and he's like,

694
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 1: fuck no.

695
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: You know, it is interesting because I think he is

696
00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 2: known as like in real life, was known as a

697
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,560
Speaker 2: perfectionist and a little bit of an asshole. Yeah, And

698
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 2: so to have him be that way in the movie

699
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: is interesting. But then it is also interesting and I

700
00:38:58,840 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 2: said this to Trisha when I was well watching it.

701
00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: In the movie, Wendy and Lisa essentially write the song

702
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 2: Purple Rain, but that's not accurate. In real life, Prince

703
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 2: wrote Purple Rain, right, But to have that that depicted

704
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,239
Speaker 2: in the movie, that they like wrote the song is

705
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 2: kind of a selfless act by Prince. Like I feel

706
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:22,680
Speaker 2: like some artists would be like, I don't even want

707
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 2: it insinuated that I didn't write that song.

708
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah.

709
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: So it's kind of interesting that he allowed that to

710
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 2: be in the movie.

711
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting that you say, you know, sort of

712
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,280
Speaker 1: like the way Prince was sort of in real life

713
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: in terms of being a musician and artist. Because I

714
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: literally just read or I listened to it on a

715
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: podcast on the New York Times podcast app. But there's

716
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 1: an article that came out in the New York Times magazine.

717
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,000
Speaker 1: I want to say, is like late last year about

718
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: this documentary that Ezra Edelman had made about Prince. You

719
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 1: know Edelman who made the OJ documentary.

720
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 2: And USC for it.

721
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 1: Yeah. So it's this wild story about basically how he

722
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: he made this like nine hour documentary about Prince and

723
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,800
Speaker 1: it's like done and it's finished, but there's this fear

724
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 1: of it being released because it's it's showing Prince allegedly

725
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 1: having not seen it in his human form, which is imperfect,

726
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 1: and it shows him maybe in ways that were like

727
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: not ready to accept at this time. And I think that,

728
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: like that is so interesting to me because it's like

729
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 1: this thing is finished, it's in the can, you know,

730
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:52,000
Speaker 1: and yet we'll probably never see it because it's too

731
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: real or.

732
00:40:53,080 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 2: Something that the state won't allow its release, right.

733
00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: And so there's this moment where I'm just like, I mean,

734
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 1: I can see two sides of it. That's the part

735
00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: where I'm like, oh, I can see that I can

736
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: see feeling some type of way about not being able

737
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 1: to access this, you know. I mean, this is like

738
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: probably the best document of his life that exists, right,

739
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: And he was very mysterious too in a lot of ways.

740
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: You know, during his life. And yet I'm also like,

741
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 1: but yeah, maybe I don't want to see how the

742
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: sausage is made. I'm not ready. Maybe I don't know.

743
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: Well, I mean there's all these I mean, the lore

744
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: of Prince. I have a million stories about how he

745
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 2: is like an eccentric in his real life, and some

746
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 2: of them are unflattering. I mean, have you ever heard

747
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 2: the song I Hate You off the Gold Experience by Prince?

748
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,840
Speaker 2: I think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, So it's about Carmen

749
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:54,840
Speaker 2: Electra who was a Prince girl. Yes, and she says

750
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,360
Speaker 2: that they were kind of like dating, and but she

751
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 2: went out with another guy and Prince found out and

752
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 2: Prince was like, I have a song I wrote for you,

753
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: and the song is I Hate You, and he like

754
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: performed it for her and they were like done after that. Yeah,

755
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 2: I'd say, like so like and he could be kind

756
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,160
Speaker 2: of like cut throat with people. He had high expectations

757
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:23,320
Speaker 2: of people, right, you know, because he's such a perfectionist.

758
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: And that that shows. This is the thing about Purple

759
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 1: Rain though that is in the movie right as we

760
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: just alluded to. Yah, there's this part you know again,

761
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: this b story of him sort of being this like

762
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:36,840
Speaker 1: relentless bandleader. He doesn't listen to his band members. You know,

763
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: they're all they all hate him. You know. He has

764
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 1: obviously like a lot of confidence and he's very cocky,

765
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: and he's going back and forth with Morris Day. That's like,

766
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,239
Speaker 1: you know, we're gonna touch on Morri's Day, trust.

767
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 2: Me, Oh we are definitely too.

768
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 1: But it is this, there is this complexity of Purple

769
00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 1: Rain that I feel like is interesting from a film

770
00:42:56,360 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: perspective in terms of the way we see these like

771
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 1: musician movies, right, like Crossroads, Right. We talked to you know,

772
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: ad nauseum about Crossroads being sort of this like kind

773
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:14,399
Speaker 1: of I don't know, like kind of slightly unrealistic, kind

774
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: of terrible film where we felt like we could have

775
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: it could have been so much more for Britney Spears

776
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:20,480
Speaker 1: and it.

777
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 2: You know, I think we were like, she should have

778
00:43:22,320 --> 00:43:24,920
Speaker 2: done a Purple Rain. It's just performing more.

779
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: Right, right, right. But that's the thing is that a

780
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: lot of these musician films are that, and they're not

781
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:33,080
Speaker 1: Purple Rain, do you know what I mean? Like, I

782
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: mean maybe eight mile would be close, but even an

783
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:40,719
Speaker 1: eight mile it's not like this. It's not showing, you know, princess,

784
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: this kind of like mercurial, salty and sweet type of person,

785
00:43:47,320 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 1: and it certainly doesn't show like the trauma that his character,

786
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: the kid obviously faces the movie, which is that he's

787
00:43:55,120 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: got this incredibly hardcore home life. Right, never get married, Jesus.

788
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: Can you like the dad smoking a cigarette crying telling

789
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,720
Speaker 1: his son never get married. I'm like, yo, that would

790
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: I would be remembering that fucking moment for the rest

791
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 1: of my damn life if that happened.

792
00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: Yes, Oh my god, that's an intense scene.

793
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,799
Speaker 1: So he's got this. So the kid obviously tripe saying

794
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 1: around Minneapolis performing, you know, fallen in love with you know,

795
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: the character of Apollonia, who's played by Apollonia, you know,

796
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: kind of in this sort of constant battle of the

797
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 1: bands with Morris Day in the time. We were kind

798
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: of this like beloved house band or whatever at first act, right,

799
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: but yet he comes home and his father is abusive

800
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: to his mother, violently abusive and sort of like is

801
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: a failed musician. There's kind of that storyline where it's

802
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 1: kind of like a son is sort of looking up

803
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: to the father but knows that the father is kind

804
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 1: of a failed man type of thing and wondering if

805
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,840
Speaker 1: he's going to be like him, and in certain ways

806
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: he is like him in the movie. But yeah, I

807
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: feel like that there's a complexity to that storyline that

808
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: makes Purple Rain better.

809
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 2: Then that's the thing. It's better because it is more

810
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 2: complex and it shows I mean, Prince beats Appollonia, yes,

811
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 2: which like, can you imagine a modern day pop star

812
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,840
Speaker 2: being like, oh yeah, my character who's essentially me is

813
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 2: going to beat this woman in the like, yes, that

814
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: takes a that makes the movie more interesting and better.

815
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: You know that it is showing Prince in such a

816
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 2: negative light, yes, in this movie.

817
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: Well, and that's I think this is kind of a

818
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: thought that I was having when I was watching it. Again.

819
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I've seen Purple Rain like a hundred times,

820
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 1: right sure, And actually, anytime I see it in a

821
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: movie theater, it's like raucus as fuck. Have you ever

822
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: seen you probably seen movie theater?

823
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:06,919
Speaker 2: You know what. I don't think I ever had.

824
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: Holy shit, you've never been to like a revival midnight

825
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 1: screening or.

826
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 2: Something like that. I have them all the time. I should.

827
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:13,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, Oh, it's like the last time I

828
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: saw it in the theater. It was in Atlanta, and

829
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,040
Speaker 1: people were like dancing in the aisles like maniacs. It

830
00:46:19,120 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: was awesome. But this time, you know, I was kind

831
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: of like going on a deep dive because iknew we

832
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 1: were going to talk about it on the podcast, and

833
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,680
Speaker 1: you know, it was reading kind of these different takes

834
00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 1: about sort of the the treatment of women in right,

835
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: because I mean, you've got a lot of bad things

836
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: happening to women in this movie. It's like, really, I

837
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,640
Speaker 1: always like cringe when this happens. But like when Wendy

838
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 1: goes off on prints about or the kid goes off

839
00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:51,359
Speaker 1: about like, you know, come on, dude, like you're being

840
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: a fucking asshole, like why you got to hurt people

841
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff, And then it cuts to the

842
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: surgeon and he's just like, oh, Wendy's got the period thing,

843
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: you know, like he starts talking about her period.

844
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 2: I'm like, so, doctor fink that's doctor doctor. I don't

845
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 2: know if he's a surgeon.

846
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 1: Well I think he's a surgeon because he wears a mask.

847
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: Oh that's true, and it's got green scrubs. I don't

848
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,560
Speaker 2: know if that. Yeah, I mean he's anyways, continued, he's

849
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:12,479
Speaker 2: he's some.

850
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:14,760
Speaker 1: Kind of surgeon. I don't know if he's a brain surgeon,

851
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: but anyway, he but like he kind of makes us

852
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: like stupid. You know, it's like one of these like

853
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: stupid guy jokes about women's periods. I was like, ah,

854
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: that's so stupid. And then like, I mean, obviously you've

855
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: got like the whole thing about hitting Appolonia, which you know,

856
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: I feel like is related to something else, but it's

857
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: also just the idea of war's date being this like philandering,

858
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 1: like calling women bitches that kind of stuff, Right, Yeah,

859
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 1: I mean a lot of that is the time period. Obviously.

860
00:47:42,880 --> 00:47:44,759
Speaker 1: I mean this was kind of humor back in the

861
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: in the eighties. I mean, whether or not you like it,

862
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: it is. But I also think, look, I started really

863
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: sitting with all this because I was just like, okay, yeah,

864
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:54,879
Speaker 1: like purple n there's a lot of stuff going on here,

865
00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,399
Speaker 1: and a lot of like the women, like the woman

866
00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 1: that gets thrown in the dumpster is white, m you know,

867
00:48:02,120 --> 00:48:05,160
Speaker 1: like Prince's mom is white in the movie, and so

868
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 1: there's this like kind of racialized component to it that's

869
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: really interesting too to me from like a long lens.

870
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:15,160
Speaker 1: But but also like I feel like the thing about

871
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: the movie, the narrative structure of the movie is that

872
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: it really talks about Princess being like he's experiencing trauma

873
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,799
Speaker 1: in his old life, and there's this whole like sequence

874
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 1: after he hits apoloney. I mean that happens right after

875
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 1: he sees his father basically beat his mother again. So

876
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: there's this feeling of like, Okay, well, this isn't just

877
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 1: like this isn't Morris Day just being like where my

878
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:41,279
Speaker 1: bitch is at? This is like Prince. There's a little

879
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: bit more thought to like these violence sequences because it's

880
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 1: being attached to other parts of the story, which is

881
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 1: that here's here's a young man experiencing violence in his life,

882
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: and how does he like process that. Is he going

883
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,560
Speaker 1: to like repeat the sins of the father or is

884
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: he going to become his own person? So it's very

885
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 1: interesting to me. I just think it's like off the cuff,

886
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: you would be like, oh, this is so gross towards women.

887
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 1: But then I think it's doing a little bit more

888
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,959
Speaker 1: in the in the story to make that a little

889
00:49:11,000 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: bit more complex. Do you know what I'm saying?

890
00:49:13,160 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think for me, it

891
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:20,720
Speaker 2: feels like it elevates us slightly above sort of the

892
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 2: misogynistic humor of the day, and it feels like it's

893
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:29,080
Speaker 2: at least giving a little bit of reason for it,

894
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: and like like you're saying like meaning behind it, like

895
00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:38,120
Speaker 2: we can attribute this abuse of women to something that's

896
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:41,920
Speaker 2: happening to the characters. You know. So for me, it

897
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 2: wasn't as disturbing as so many, like rewatching so many

898
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 2: movies from this time, yeah it is, you know.

899
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, well yeah, like I said, I just I think

900
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,839
Speaker 1: I ultimately my point is that I feel like I

901
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: appreciated the movie more because it wasn't just like.

902
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 2: A throw Yeah. Do we want to talk about Prince's acting?

903
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: I mean I do. Do you want to?

904
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 2: Yes? Well, so watching Purple Ren the first time, I

905
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 2: remember watching it and being like, Prince sucks as an actor,

906
00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 2: But this time I was like, actually this is working

907
00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,000
Speaker 2: a little bit. And maybe, you know what, maybe this

908
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:23,440
Speaker 2: is informed by me watching Under the Cherry Moon, his

909
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:30,239
Speaker 2: follow up film to Purple Ring, which we both rewatched

910
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 2: this week too.

911
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 1: I have so many thoughts about this, dude, because that's

912
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: I think what we were alluding to in the opening

913
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 1: is that I feel like over the course of his filmography, like,

914
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:50,799
Speaker 1: there are certain movies where his acting is incredibly charming. Yeah,

915
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: and Under the Cherry Moon, I haven't seen it since

916
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: I was young, and when I first saw it, I

917
00:50:55,840 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what this is. It feels

918
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:01,399
Speaker 1: like an episode of the Monkeys. Yeah, it feels kind

919
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 1: of like a hard Day's Night, but it's also bad.

920
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 2: That was like my impression of it as a kid. Well,

921
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:09,920
Speaker 2: I remember my mom being like, yes, Prince made an

922
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 2: incredible film and then he made another one that was terrible.

923
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,960
Speaker 2: That was like the narrative growing up that I had,

924
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,760
Speaker 2: you know. And you know, Prince's acting style in Purple

925
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 2: Rain is I would say muted. He's much more like

926
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: emo and like kind of quiet and you know, more

927
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:33,359
Speaker 2: of a loner. Wherein Under the Cherry Moon, which is

928
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 2: like black and white, it's sent it's set in like

929
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 2: the French riviera, I guess, and he is like a jigglo. Basically,

930
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,600
Speaker 2: he's like a seducing old women to get money from them,

931
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: you know, and his character is like a total goofball.

932
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 2: He is very similar to kind of like Morris's Day

933
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 2: In Purple Rain, he's like this goofy, silly, kind of

934
00:51:54,280 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 2: like expressive, little weirdo. I don't know, And it's like

935
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:03,239
Speaker 2: a totally different type of character than from Purple Ring

936
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 2: Oh one. Okay.

937
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:06,200
Speaker 1: First of all, Jerome is in it.

938
00:52:06,520 --> 00:52:08,960
Speaker 2: He places like Rome, who is in Purple Rain as

939
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:12,800
Speaker 2: Morris Day's right hand man. He's the guy who holds

940
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 2: a mirror up to Morris Day while on stage. He's

941
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:20,520
Speaker 2: kind of his like dancing man, his bostone will his

942
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 2: boss tone. Yes, who is that guy who would hold

943
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 2: an umbrella on an outcast videos?

944
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: Bentley?

945
00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, Fonsworth Bentley is kind of like that. So he

946
00:52:30,280 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 2: is like the number two guy in Under the Cherry

947
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 2: Moon and they're both goofballs.

948
00:52:36,120 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: Well, like to me, did you not think this? They

949
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: kind of have this weird like they were kind of

950
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,560
Speaker 1: like bisexual.

951
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 2: You can take kind of us. They were like so

952
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 2: gay and like very bisexual and like flirty with each other,

953
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: and like there's like a scene where like princes in

954
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 2: the tub and like Jerome comes in and they're naked

955
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 2: and they're kind of like there's a lot of like

956
00:53:04,880 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: eye movement, like ooh, googly eye acting in that.

957
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's like like Jerome is above him, like

958
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: throwing rose petals in the bath or whatever, like flower pedals.

959
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: And I'm just sitting here going, Okay, here's two men

960
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: taking a bath together. Meanwhile they're out there there being

961
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 1: two old French hose. That's what this movie is about,

962
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 1: is like you want to watch Prince and Jerome being

963
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: a couple of French hose. And you know, maybe it's

964
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: because it's set in France. Maybe it kind of reminded

965
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: me a little bit of like a Filleeny movie.

966
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,680
Speaker 2: It was very like, yeah, I can't like French new

967
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 2: wave vibes to it too. It felt very there is

968
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: like some Goodard sort of stuff, yeah, just in terms

969
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,920
Speaker 2: of like being silly and running around and causing a

970
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 2: scene and like an aristocratic event, you know.

971
00:53:48,680 --> 00:53:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah. And I want to say the movie was written

972
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 1: by a woman, and I don't know.

973
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:54,400
Speaker 2: If Becky Johnson, I believe her name was.

974
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:58,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there's this like very easy, breezy, kind of

975
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: bisexual energy in Under the Cherry Moon that I actually

976
00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: really appreciated. I was like, this is kind of cool, and.

977
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: I was when I watched it this time, I was like,

978
00:54:08,680 --> 00:54:11,399
Speaker 2: am I an idiot for thinking this is good? I

979
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 2: was like I was like enjoying it. I mean, obviously,

980
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 2: I do think Prince doesn't quite he can't quite go

981
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,080
Speaker 2: all the way with his performance, Like there are some

982
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: moments where I feel like he doesn't quite know what

983
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 2: he's doing sure in front of the camera, but for

984
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:27,840
Speaker 2: the most part it was kind of working for me.

985
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought so too, it felt. I think it

986
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 1: was because I don't know. When I first saw it,

987
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: I was young. I just didn't really have the cinematic

988
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: language to really like understand what this movie was about

989
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 1: or what it was trying to sort of invoke or whatever.

990
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: But like now, as a much older person, I was like, Yo,

991
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: this is like really fun. This is like this gorgeous

992
00:54:47,520 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 1: black and white. Prince is super charming, Jerome is really

993
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:54,360
Speaker 1: funny and charming. And then you've got like Kristin Scott Thomas,

994
00:54:54,360 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: who plays kind of her first movie, yes, the love interest,

995
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 1: and she's kind of got this like I don't know,

996
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 1: this kind of like Breakfast to Tiffany's Audrey Hepburn kind

997
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: of feeling to her.

998
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,719
Speaker 2: Well, I thought it was I was like, good on

999
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:10,760
Speaker 2: Prince to be like, because this movie is like silly

1000
00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,279
Speaker 2: and not deep and it's not really trying to be

1001
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,879
Speaker 2: you know, it's like it And I appreciated that about

1002
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: Prince because I could totally see him taking himself way

1003
00:55:18,080 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: too seriously and this movie does not like take itself seriously,

1004
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 2: but it's still stylish, yes, you know, And so I

1005
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:28,480
Speaker 2: really I on rewatch, I really like had a blast

1006
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: watching it.

1007
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I did too, And it made me like, I

1008
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: think there's a reevaluation of Under the Churry Rooms because

1009
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: there's I mean, when I looked at my letterbox and

1010
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: saw like a couple of my friends had seen it,

1011
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: there was a big portion of my friends that were

1012
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: like eh, and then there was like this group that

1013
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: had rated like five stars, like this is a fucking

1014
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: brilliant movie. Like it was, like, so I feel like

1015
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: it's it's either been reevaluated or is about to be.

1016
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,799
Speaker 1: And I loved it. I actually loved it. Obviously I

1017
00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't like it when I was a young person, so I, yeah.

1018
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:03,360
Speaker 2: It's different. But I could see why people were disappointed

1019
00:56:03,360 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: because there actually aren't any musical performances in it, Like

1020
00:56:07,400 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: he plays a musician, yes, but he's not. I guess

1021
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 2: there's like one or two, but it's not like Purple

1022
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 2: Rain where it's like wall to wall music. Yeah, you know,

1023
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 2: it's more of just like a story, like a straight movie, yeah,

1024
00:56:20,680 --> 00:56:21,440
Speaker 2: than Purple Rain.

1025
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, it kind of feels like, you know, one of

1026
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,920
Speaker 1: these like Jacques Tatis meets Felaty meets like kind of

1027
00:56:27,960 --> 00:56:31,120
Speaker 1: like a screwball comedy type of feeling. So I don't know,

1028
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: I appreciated it, and uh, yeah it was good. But

1029
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: I actually think Purple Rain is a well shot movie,

1030
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,359
Speaker 1: don't you think.

1031
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, no, one hundred percent. I thought it was

1032
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,120
Speaker 2: like really well directed, and like, like I talked about

1033
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,400
Speaker 2: those opening shots of the audience, it really establishes the

1034
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:54,919
Speaker 2: vibe so efficiently, and like when Let's Go Crazy, which

1035
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 2: is the first song on the album, first song of

1036
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 2: the movie, when that starts with the daily bit of it,

1037
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:03,279
Speaker 2: I mean I was, I was on my feet, I

1038
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,120
Speaker 2: was so I was amped up. Yeah, and it's like

1039
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,920
Speaker 2: such a great way to introduce the movie and the world.

1040
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,040
Speaker 2: And yeah, I thought it was really well shot. It

1041
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 2: looked fabulous.

1042
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:17,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think from like a pacing perspective, it's perfect,

1043
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: Like it literally every musical sequence that happens makes you

1044
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:25,600
Speaker 1: feel so keyed up, like and of course you know,

1045
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:30,200
Speaker 1: it kind of crescendos to this unbelievable like Purple Rain,

1046
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:35,400
Speaker 1: you know, like the whole like intensity of it, and

1047
00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,800
Speaker 1: then it's like, Baby I'm a Star, You're you're just like,

1048
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: holy shit, this is perfectly paced. But there's like actually

1049
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: some great shots. There's that one shot I guess it's

1050
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 1: like a steady camshot of him, like right after he

1051
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:49,120
Speaker 1: does Purple Rain and he's like going through the hallways

1052
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: of the back of First Ab and it's like, man,

1053
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: that is fucking great.

1054
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:55,120
Speaker 2: That's a bit. It's like emotional. It's emotional because he's

1055
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:58,920
Speaker 2: like he's like, I suck. I suck. And then it's like, no,

1056
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: you don't like it's it's just like so it's so good.

1057
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 2: It's and it's really emotional that shot.

1058
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it ends like like he approaches that like

1059
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: waitress with the blonde the bleach blonde like kind of

1060
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: short hair, and she's like crying, and I was like,

1061
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: that's how we feel.

1062
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 2: That's me.

1063
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,880
Speaker 1: We feel that way after seeing him do Purple Rain

1064
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: in honor of his father in the movie, and then

1065
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: the classic shot of U during Baby I'm a Star

1066
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: War it's that circle shot of him and he's kind

1067
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: of like doing his whole life.

1068
00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 2: He's rubbing and like shuffling his feet. I do that

1069
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 2: in my house alone. No, that's not Baby I'm a Star.

1070
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:38,040
Speaker 2: That's I would Die for that, I would die for you.

1071
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 2: But the but Purple Rain into I Would Die for

1072
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:46,000
Speaker 2: You into Baby I'm a Star. Is it's amazing in

1073
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: the movie. Yes, it's so good.

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00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it was like they had to basically

1075
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: shoot him from the middle and he's just kind of

1076
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: it's like the camera serv I mean, god, dude, I

1077
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: was like, Yo, they really fucking nailed this movie. Like

1078
00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: they did really well.

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00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:03,200
Speaker 2: I will say the one part of the movie where

1080
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:05,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know if I there's like this

1081
00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 2: whole part where they're like, man, Prince sucks tonight and

1082
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 2: they're playing like computer Blue and Darling Nicky. You know,

1083
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 2: like that's the one part where they're like he's not

1084
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 2: up to his normal game. But I'm like, these songs

1085
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: are like the best songs I've ever heard. Like you

1086
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,440
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, who's the who's.

1087
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 1: The guy that plays the club owner in the purpose? Oh?

1088
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's his name?

1089
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: Forgot his fucking name? Where he's just like he's like,

1090
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 1: you got one song? What the fuck? You know? He's

1091
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,480
Speaker 1: just really like he really begrudges the Revolution. I'm like,

1092
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,919
Speaker 1: I don't know who else you can get here.

1093
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:43,320
Speaker 2: Honestly, you think Des Dickerson is gonna play the stage

1094
00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: as well as Prince, I don't think so.

1095
00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, I mean to be completely honest with you.

1096
00:59:48,080 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 1: When fucking Apollonia six gets in there finally after they've

1097
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:54,400
Speaker 1: been practicing and they do sex Shooter, I'm like, you're

1098
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: telling me that you'd rather have this than darling Nicky.

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00:59:58,720 --> 01:00:01,320
Speaker 1: We're basically Princess or wasn't He's like sweating and he's

1100
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:04,120
Speaker 1: wearing that mask, and I'm like, so, as a club owner,

1101
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:08,439
Speaker 1: you're saying that sucks more than A six.

1102
01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:13,480
Speaker 2: That sex Shooter song was is not good? And uh

1103
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:15,920
Speaker 2: that was a real single that wasn't just.

1104
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:16,800
Speaker 1: A played it.

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01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:20,120
Speaker 2: I've played it in the club, so uh six.

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01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: Okay. So this is the thing about Appolodia too. I

1107
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:26,160
Speaker 1: want to talk about this because I love Appollodia. She's sexy,

1108
01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:31,280
Speaker 1: but she's also cute. Yes, very hard to nail. It's

1109
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:33,200
Speaker 1: very hard to be sexy and cute at the same time.

1110
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: And when you see somebody who's both, You're like, how

1111
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:39,120
Speaker 1: is it possible? And I had read that, you know,

1112
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,919
Speaker 1: obviously Vanity was supposed to be part of it. That's

1113
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 1: kind of its own little mythology or legend. And then

1114
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,640
Speaker 1: they had actually asked Jennifer Beals to be in the movie.

1115
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: And you know, both of these women are extremely attractive

1116
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: as well. So it made me think about Prince and

1117
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:02,320
Speaker 1: about his women, like the women that Prince gravitates towards,

1118
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: And I'm like, is there a Prince lady? Is there

1119
01:01:06,600 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 1: like an archetype of a Prince lady?

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01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: I mean, think about Carmen Electra too. They all are

1121
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: kind of a similar kind of racially ambiguous, sort of

1122
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,640
Speaker 2: futuristic type of woman that they that he likes to

1123
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 2: have yes around like.

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01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: I also think about Susannah Hoffs from the Bengals, who

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01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:27,680
Speaker 1: there was a very famous story about how Prince was

1126
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: kind of obsessed with her too, and I'm like, oh, yeah,

1127
01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,280
Speaker 1: this is a this is a woman who wrote he

1128
01:01:33,320 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 1: wrote Manic Monday for her. Yes, yes, but even the

1129
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 1: women that he has in his videos, you're not seeing

1130
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: any Sabrina Carpenters in there. I feel like these are

1131
01:01:44,120 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 1: women who are You're exactly right, racially ambiguous, usually brunettes,

1132
01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 1: usually kind of a heavy eyeliner, kind of like a

1133
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:54,640
Speaker 1: mysterious sensuality to them.

1134
01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:59,080
Speaker 2: These are not virginal women. These are sexual women. There's

1135
01:01:59,080 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 2: no blode, there's no perky blonde.

1136
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: It feels like there's no collegiate perky blonde in the

1137
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 1: Prince multiverse. It's like a yeah, it's kind of like

1138
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 1: a mysterious siren from maybe another country, but we don't

1139
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 1: know where.

1140
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're you're You've gone through the stargate and you're

1141
01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:22,200
Speaker 2: on this sand planet with like an alien race, and

1142
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,600
Speaker 2: that is where like Prince finds these women.

1143
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: I feel like, I mean, I gotta be honest with you,

1144
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:36,920
Speaker 1: as as a semi racially ambiguous woman myself, I appreciate

1145
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: that shit, Rob kind of like, okay, maybe a little

1146
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: something for us once in a while. Okay, I appreciate that.

1147
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,880
Speaker 1: You know, the world gravitates around you know, the Britney

1148
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:49,280
Speaker 1: spears is and the and the perky blondes and like,

1149
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, the cute little outfits. So I like, I

1150
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:54,920
Speaker 1: like a little heavy coal eyeliner.

1151
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 2: Look, see this is why this isn't one of his women,

1152
01:02:59,720 --> 01:03:02,880
Speaker 2: but in his band. I can't believe that Prince allowed

1153
01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: there to be a guy dressed as a doctor like

1154
01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:10,440
Speaker 2: that is so like everyone else's like has the uniform. Wendy,

1155
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 2: Lisa Brown Mark, I can't remember the drummer's.

1156
01:03:13,880 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: Name, Bobby.

1157
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:17,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, they all are dressed as if they're in

1158
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:20,000
Speaker 2: Prince's band. And then the doctor's like, I'm dressed like

1159
01:03:20,040 --> 01:03:22,360
Speaker 2: a surgeon and I've got a stethoscope around my neck.

1160
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,040
Speaker 2: I just think it's like kind of outrageous.

1161
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:25,280
Speaker 1: But they all have the same hair.

1162
01:03:25,840 --> 01:03:26,720
Speaker 2: They all have the same hair.

1163
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this like real poofy aquaint. But then there's

1164
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,120
Speaker 1: like a side that's smoothed down, maybe shaved on the side,

1165
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:40,560
Speaker 1: like a little undercut. So even the doctor has that hair,

1166
01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,520
Speaker 1: which I'm just sayings as a surgeon, you wouldn't be

1167
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: able to rock that look. You'd have to put that

1168
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 1: back and a hair in it.

1169
01:03:47,080 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 2: So, oh man, Millie, is there anything else to talk

1170
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:52,880
Speaker 2: about with Prince?

1171
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know. I feel like we went

1172
01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 1: so hard, which I appreciate. I'm sorry. I don't care

1173
01:03:57,480 --> 01:04:00,160
Speaker 1: if this isn't interesting to anybody else. I needed to,

1174
01:04:01,240 --> 01:04:03,720
Speaker 1: you know, basically, get these feelings out of my body.

1175
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:06,080
Speaker 1: I don't know about absolutely. No.

1176
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,400
Speaker 2: I mean I have so many feelings. Have I told

1177
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 2: my plane story with Prince No. It was my freshman

1178
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 2: year of college and I went to Loyal and Merry Mountain,

1179
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 2: Los Angeles. Stop me if I've said this before. And

1180
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:24,880
Speaker 2: I'm going back home for Christmas break. It's the first

1181
01:04:24,920 --> 01:04:28,560
Speaker 2: time I'm going back to Minneapolis after being at college

1182
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:32,480
Speaker 2: for the first semester. And I'm a terrible flyer. I

1183
01:04:32,520 --> 01:04:35,200
Speaker 2: do not. I like, I really have a hard time flying.

1184
01:04:35,480 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 2: We take off and immediately the captain is like, we

1185
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:46,040
Speaker 2: are dumping fuel and returning to lax. The flaps are

1186
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:51,600
Speaker 2: malfunctioning on the wing Jesus. So we land hard. Oh god,

1187
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 2: and there's like fire trucks around. I'm like dying, Oh

1188
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: my god. We're fine. We get off and I'm like, damn,

1189
01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:04,320
Speaker 2: I want to go home, you know. And the next

1190
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 2: flight available is the next morning. So it's like twenty

1191
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 2: four hours later. So I go and spend a night

1192
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,919
Speaker 2: at a friend's house in La Then I go back

1193
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 2: the next morning and they're like, this flight is canceled too.

1194
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:18,920
Speaker 2: She says. The next flight that's available to go back

1195
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,880
Speaker 2: to Minneapolis. That you can get on is the Red

1196
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 2: Eye tonight. So I stayed in the airport all day.

1197
01:05:23,920 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, and I'm like, I'm never fucking getting home.

1198
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1199
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:29,280
Speaker 2: I just felt like I'm not getting home.

1200
01:05:29,360 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1201
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 2: I get on the Red Eye. It is like empty.

1202
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 2: I feel like there's like five other people on the

1203
01:05:35,360 --> 01:05:37,840
Speaker 2: entire plane. I have a whole row to myself and

1204
01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,880
Speaker 2: I'm in the front row of coach, you know, And

1205
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:45,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I just was like, this flight isn't taking off.

1206
01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:50,080
Speaker 2: We're not getting home. Prince walks on board the flight

1207
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 2: in a turquoise suit. He looks at everyone on the plane,

1208
01:05:56,840 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 2: He bows to everyone on the plane, sits in the

1209
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,840
Speaker 2: first class, and I'm like, I'm going home, bab, Holy's

1210
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:11,680
Speaker 2: getting us home. So that was, Uh, that was when

1211
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 2: the only time I saw Prince in person.

1212
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,720
Speaker 1: Holy fucking shit. That felt like a dream. But that

1213
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 1: actually happened.

1214
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 2: Yes, that actually happened.

1215
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: Did anyone speak to him? Did he? I mean I'm

1216
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:24,640
Speaker 1: sure no.

1217
01:06:24,920 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 2: It was like I can't emphasize how few people were

1218
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:30,520
Speaker 2: on this plane. And you know, I'm like close enough

1219
01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,600
Speaker 2: to be like, I think, you know, we may have

1220
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,040
Speaker 2: made eye contact. I'm sure he kind of like came

1221
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 2: in and like looked at everybody, bowed and then sat down.

1222
01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:43,640
Speaker 2: And I could tell the flight attendants were like very

1223
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 2: like everything okay, can we get like they were? I

1224
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 2: can tell they were like checking in a lot on him.

1225
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 1: You know, do you know what snacks he ate? Could

1226
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:52,600
Speaker 1: you say?

1227
01:06:52,680 --> 01:06:53,640
Speaker 2: I'd love to have?

1228
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: I should have asked did he have a couple of

1229
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: bisco Off cookies and maybe those like pretzel thins?

1230
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:02,400
Speaker 2: I I one can only dream. Really, I have no

1231
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 2: concept of what he was, but that was very exciting.

1232
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:08,280
Speaker 1: Holy shit. I can't even imagine him being on a plane.

1233
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,600
Speaker 1: It feels like he just teleports to places.

1234
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:12,680
Speaker 2: It seems like he would have his own private jet

1235
01:07:12,760 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 2: that's purple, but he was on the flight.

1236
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: And it's like the shape of the guitar from Purple

1237
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: Rain or something.

1238
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yes, exactly.

1239
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: Wow, dude, that's an incredible story.

1240
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:21,720
Speaker 2: Thank you?

1241
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:26,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I honestly, you know, I could we

1242
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 1: could probably go on another couple hours on this shit,

1243
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:34,440
Speaker 1: because I mean, this movie is a legendary film and

1244
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:39,080
Speaker 1: it's probably I would say it's probably the best movie

1245
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: like a narrative film about a musician featuring a musician

1246
01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:47,200
Speaker 1: featuring the songs of a musician that I've ever seen,

1247
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:52,680
Speaker 1: and also like great character work. Great. I mean, there's

1248
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 1: obviously I think we just talked about there being sort

1249
01:07:55,120 --> 01:08:00,840
Speaker 1: of a complexity to the storyline that is engaging and interesting.

1250
01:08:01,000 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: I mean, Morris Day. We haven't even really talked about

1251
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:04,440
Speaker 1: Morri's day. All I know is that he's this like

1252
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,360
Speaker 1: he's this like perfect batman villain the entire time.

1253
01:08:08,480 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 2: He really is.

1254
01:08:09,280 --> 01:08:13,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's just like like his little whatever it is,

1255
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: little scream that he does every so often, which I

1256
01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:20,320
Speaker 1: can't replicate at all, But he's he's so stupid and funny.

1257
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: I love the part where he's like sitting with Appollonia

1258
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:26,080
Speaker 1: and he buys a bottle and he tells the way

1259
01:08:26,160 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: Tress like keep the change, and that he like pulls

1260
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:30,920
Speaker 1: Jerome down and it's like make sure I get my

1261
01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:32,080
Speaker 1: change or whatever.

1262
01:08:34,200 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 2: He'll get my change. Oh my god, outrageous, outrageous and

1263
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 2: Jungle Love is a great song.

1264
01:08:42,479 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, another club banger. But I gotta say, I'm

1265
01:08:47,960 --> 01:08:51,360
Speaker 1: really actually so, I'm really actually happy that I got

1266
01:08:51,360 --> 01:08:53,479
Speaker 1: to hear like your kind of personal take on this

1267
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 1: because I know how much Prince means to you, and

1268
01:08:55,720 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 1: you got to publish that Facebook post.

1269
01:08:57,880 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean I just be like, yeah, I I'll post

1270
01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,760
Speaker 2: that somewhere. Maybe we can post it on our Dear

1271
01:09:03,840 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: Movies I love You Instagram so people can see that.

1272
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,400
Speaker 1: But this is I think a perfect example of the

1273
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,880
Speaker 1: concept of this podcast, which is a movie that you're

1274
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:14,479
Speaker 1: just like in love with and have been in love

1275
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:18,160
Speaker 1: with forever and you just have deep feelings for. So yeah,

1276
01:09:18,200 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: I've had a good time.

1277
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: All right. Now it's time for Employees' picks, where we

1278
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,679
Speaker 2: recommend a movie based off what we talked about today.

1279
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:39,600
Speaker 2: This is gonna be a little tough because there's a

1280
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 2: few options. But what do you got, Millie?

1281
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 1: Well, I know, did you say you hadn't seen some

1282
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:45,559
Speaker 1: of the Times or you have?

1283
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:48,519
Speaker 2: I have seen, like, I've watched a lot of it,

1284
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: you know, like songs, but I haven't seen it all

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Speaker 2: the way through.

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, so this is gonna be a very softball

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Speaker 1: pick as an employee of this podcast this week because

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Speaker 1: I'm going to actually recommend Sign of the Times because well,

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Speaker 1: for two reasons. Number one, it's fun as shit. I

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Speaker 1: actually saw it in the in the theater when it

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Speaker 1: was re released, because that's the second thing about it

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Speaker 1: was that it was unavailable for a while. I hadn't

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Speaker 1: seen it at all until I saw it in the theater,

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Speaker 1: and I don't really know why it happened. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that there was like some weird kind of

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Speaker 1: like like there it was released on DVD like in

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Speaker 1: another country or like a blue ray or something, but

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Speaker 1: it was unavailable in the US for a long time.

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Speaker 2: I only knew of it on VHS for a long time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's not a narrative film. It's basically a concert,

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Speaker 1: but there's like, you know, kind of these like weird

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Speaker 1: you know, skits happening through it throughout the movie, and

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Speaker 1: it's like this big stage set that kind of looks

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Speaker 1: like a town or something like that. But it's like

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Speaker 1: it's fucking awesome, dude. Like And there's actually like a

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Speaker 1: bit in the middle where it cuts to the video

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Speaker 1: for you Got the Look with You Got the Look?

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Speaker 1: Yes Yes boy versus girl in the World Series of Love?

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Speaker 1: Would you not want to go to that World Series

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Speaker 1: that year? But it's it is so fun, Like the

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Speaker 1: songs that are bit it are incredible, Like I'm sorry,

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Speaker 1: but hot Thing is one of the best songs ever period.

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Speaker 2: I've said it. I remember when we were really getting

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Speaker 2: I really got into prints in college, like I was

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Speaker 2: into Prince in high school, but like really going into

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Speaker 2: his catalog. And I remember my friend Dave when we

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Speaker 2: were listening to Sign of the Times. We both went

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Speaker 2: to Catholic school and we'd have to do these like

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Speaker 2: stupid religion presentations all the time, and my friend Dave

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Speaker 2: was like, I'm so mad I didn't know about the

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Speaker 2: song the Cross while we were in Catholic school because

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Speaker 2: I would have used it in like every one of

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Speaker 2: our religion classes presentations.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like, I mean this this shit is like

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Speaker 1: wall to wallbangers obviously, ye. But like there's like at

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Speaker 1: the time when they were doing that Side of the

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Speaker 1: Times tour, it was like chilia E was playing with them,

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Speaker 1: and so like she's in the fucking movie and you're like, goddamn,

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Speaker 1: she's the best. Sheili is absolutely one of my heroes,

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Speaker 1: another one of these Prince women that I admired as

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Speaker 1: a child. But honestly, there's this female dancer named kat

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Speaker 1: Glover that's in It's like on stage maybe the Bosstone

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Speaker 1: of this of this tour, and she is unbelievable, Like

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Speaker 1: she is working it so fucking hard. She sells every

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Speaker 1: single moment and you really just can't take your eyes

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Speaker 1: off of her. So she's kind of like interacting with

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Speaker 1: Prince and you know, doing the whole thing. But I'm

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Speaker 1: just like, it's really fun, Like if you're going to

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Speaker 1: watch like a straight up concert film, this is super fun.

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Speaker 1: So if you can find it, which I feel like

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Speaker 1: it's maybe on Amazon Prime now and stuff, it's like available, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it is, so I would watch that, especially

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Speaker 1: if you're a big Prince fan and you love this

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01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,559
Speaker 1: era of Prince souit some of the times that nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty seven I think, Yeah.

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Speaker 2: You know, there's a few options here. I could go

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Speaker 2: a Graffiti Bridge, which is the sequel to Purple Rain,

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Speaker 2: but I've actually never seen it, so I'm not going

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Speaker 2: to suggest that. Could suggest Batman because they did the

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Speaker 2: soundtrack for that movie. He also did the soundtrack for

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Speaker 2: Spike Lee's Girl six, which I also haven't seen. So

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Speaker 2: what I'm going to recommend is everyone go to YouTube

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Speaker 2: and watch the tribute to George Harrison while my guitar

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01:13:49,680 --> 01:13:55,280
Speaker 2: gently weeps. Prince. They play this song, you know, in

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Speaker 2: honor of George Harrison, and it's like Tom Petty, Steve Winwood,

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Speaker 2: Jeff Lynn and George Harrison's son, Danny Harrison, and it's

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Speaker 2: kind of like, oh, why is Prince there? But he

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01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:11,200
Speaker 2: does this solo that is so crazy. He completely takes

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:18,760
Speaker 2: over the performance and it's almost inappropriate that he's performing

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Speaker 2: that outrageously at a tribute for George Harrison. But you

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01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:25,760
Speaker 2: can see George Harrison's son laughing at what Prince is doing. Like,

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Speaker 2: I think it just showcases how good of a musician

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Speaker 2: Prince was, because I don't think people quite realize how

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Speaker 2: talented and prolific and how he was like an incredible

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Speaker 2: technical musician. Oh yeah, And it just kind of showcases that.

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Speaker 2: And it's cool. And he does a very silly move

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Speaker 2: where he falls back off stage in his security guard

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Speaker 2: catches him and pushes him back onto the stage. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of wild. And then he throws his guitar into

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Speaker 2: the air at the end of the performance and it

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Speaker 2: never comes down, and so check it out. It's a

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Speaker 2: great it's not a move, it's cinematic in its own way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, I gotta watch that immediately.

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Speaker 2: Have you not seen it?

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Speaker 1: Uh?

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Speaker 2: Oh, it's amazing, It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: I gotta check it out.

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01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so check that out.

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Speaker 1: That's a good employee pick. If I've ever heard one

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Speaker 1: making us, go to YouTube. I love it.

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Speaker 2: Go to YouTube, Millie, can you believe it? What an episode.

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01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 2: I feel like we really let it all hang out.

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01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:28,840
Speaker 2: We did this one.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I've exercised my demons, which are awesome

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Speaker 1: demons that love Prince and will dance to Housequake every

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Speaker 1: time it gets played Housequake.

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Speaker 2: Shut up already, damn.

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Speaker 1: But uh yeah, though this is great. I love it.

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01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:51,919
Speaker 1: I love talking about things that we both enjoy equally

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Speaker 1: maybe together.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, Princy's such a unique person. I don't I

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01:15:56,600 --> 01:16:01,559
Speaker 2: don't even quite understand. He's so silly. Two. It's like

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01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 2: there's such a silliness to what he's doing. It's it's unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: I just I's he's endlessly fascinating.

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01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,640
Speaker 1: I know it's hard to be cute and sexy at

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01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 1: the same time, and I feel like he he nails

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01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: that pretty good. Rip Rest in peace, King Alp. All Right,

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Speaker 1: so listen, next week, we teased you, we tickled you,

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Speaker 1: a little bit. I think in the film Diary about

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Speaker 1: what we might be doing next week, which is that

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk about the director Michael Mann. Mm hmm, yeah, yeah,

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01:16:39,560 --> 01:16:44,960
Speaker 1: who directed man Hunter, but he also Drew Thief Thief.

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Speaker 1: Did he direct Last of the Mohicans? I can remember.

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Speaker 2: I think he did do Last of the Mohicans. I've

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Speaker 2: never seen that. But he also directed Heat from nineteen

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Speaker 2: ninety five, which is what we're going to be talking about. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because it's the thirtieth anniversary of that movie.

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Speaker 1: Oh my dear lord, are you kidding? Oh yeah, it

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Speaker 1: is ninety five.

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Speaker 2: I'm not joking.

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Speaker 1: That makes me sick. Dude, Holy shit, I'm old. He

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Speaker 1: is absolutely one of my favorite movies. It's so fun,

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Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about it, and we're gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about Michael Man as a director, what he brought to

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Speaker 1: the table stylistically in terms of, like, I don't know

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Speaker 1: crime films, and you know, he created a vibe. He's

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Speaker 1: a vibe creator, a vibe curator.

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Speaker 2: So he is h yeah, no, absolutely, I think you're

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Speaker 2: totally right. Very viby, very viby. I was trying to

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Speaker 2: remember the name of that horror movie he directed where

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Speaker 2: it's like a big the keep. That's what it is. Yeah,

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01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 2: from the eighties. But that's our show. We give out

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Speaker 2: film advice in this show sometimes, So please write in

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Speaker 1: Well, all right on that notes, Thanks everybody for listening. Casey,

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Speaker 1: thank you for being from Minneapolis. You're welcome, and for

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Speaker 1: being a cool white guy in a prince.

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Speaker 2: I try really hard, I really try, but thank you Millie.

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Speaker 1: You're so welcome. Bye everybody, Bye. This has been an

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Speaker 1: exactly right production hosted by me Millie to Cherco and

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Speaker 1: produced by my co host Casey O'Brien.

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Speaker 2: This episode was mixed by Tom Bryfogel. Our associate producer

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Speaker 2: is Christina Chamberlain. Our guest booker is Patrick Cottner and

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Speaker 2: our artwork is by Vanessa Lilac.

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Speaker 1: Our incredible theme music is by the best band in

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Speaker 1: the entire world, The Softies.

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Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producers Karen Kilgareff, Georgia Hartstark,

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Speaker 2: Daniel Kramer and Millie. To Jerico, we love you.

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Speaker 1: Goodbye Beker