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Get started now sign up. 10 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: Please use the promo code Colin so they know we 11 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: sent you. Please use the promo code Collins c O 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: l I N FanDuel sports Book App. Sign up and 13 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: welcome in everybody. The man alongside me is Jason Timp, 14 00:00:57,440 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: who is amazing. He does hoops to night for the 15 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:03,319 Speaker 1: volume and gun to our little foa for the next 16 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: thirty minutes or so. That was obviously not resembling Game one. 17 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: In the second half, you know, it was interesting as 18 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 1: I'll just give you a kind of my minute speel 19 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 1: on this. So as I watched the first half, once again, 20 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: the refs were allowing a lot of physical play, which 21 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 1: I do think bodes well for the Celtics over the 22 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,199 Speaker 1: long haul. But as I was watching the first half, 23 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: I was saying, listen, if Jordan Pool and Clay Thompson 24 00:01:28,319 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: aren't going to be here offensively in this series, you 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: can't you can't ask, you know, Steph to be the 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 1: shotmaker because you're not getting anything from Draymond or Looney. 27 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: This is somebody's got to give step some help. And 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: then in the second half, Jordan Pool delivers. I think 29 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:47,199 Speaker 1: Clay played pretty good defensive basketball. He's okay, he was fine, 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: But I thought you saw a huge pullback on Marcus 31 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: Smart offensively Al Horford, and this should be noted. This 32 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: is something we talked about. When Marcus Smart, he shoots 33 00:01:59,080 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 1: like he averages twenty game. He's a very confident guy, 34 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: but you only get that about every fourth game from him, 35 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,320 Speaker 1: whereas Tatum staff there's some offensive leaning players in this series. 36 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: Marcus isn't and tonight was below his usual standard, but 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:15,560 Speaker 1: he has a lot of nights like this. You're gonna 38 00:02:15,560 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 1: get three of these in the series where he's just 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:20,519 Speaker 1: not gonna hit shots, and then it becomes very Jalen 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Brown Tatum, they missed a lot of closer shots, and 41 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 1: because of that, you know, the game gets out of 42 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: hand if you're the Celtics. So there's a couple of 43 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: things here. They're gonna let the guys play. That's gonna 44 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: be I think over time and advantage to the world Celtics. 45 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: The second thing that jumps out to me is that's 46 00:02:44,960 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: about as bad as Boston can play. They're hard to 47 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: blow out because they play such good defense. So you know, 48 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:53,320 Speaker 1: they didn't play Robert Williams much Jason, so they made 49 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: a decision pretty early is we're just gonna get him healthy, 50 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:00,679 Speaker 1: assignment done. We gotta split or not gonna play Robert 51 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:02,840 Speaker 1: Williams a ton. So I think you're gonna get a 52 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 1: very spirited effort by Boston in Game three. You know 53 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 1: what was so it was so interesting is through three 54 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: halves you could get this feeling like the game was 55 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: just easier for Boston And a huge part of it 56 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: was that physicality you're talking about. So, you know, a 57 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: lot of times people focus on interior size, but I 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: would argue in this era of NBA basketball that perimeter 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,960 Speaker 1: size is actually the most important element in the game. 60 00:03:31,360 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: The reason why is more than ever, it's become important 61 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: to cover ground, especially in rotation. So getting bigger athletes 62 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: that are running around on the perimeter, they just take 63 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: bigger steps. Like, guess what if Jalen Brown is closing 64 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: out on a shooter, it's just different than if that's 65 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool or Clay Thompson closing out on a shooter. 66 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: They're bigger, they're stronger. You've been big on this since 67 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,960 Speaker 1: Game one. The physicality. If you know, hand checkings allowed 68 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: both ways in this series. If you watch, it's hilarious 69 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,080 Speaker 1: how much fouling is to place. There's a play incredible 70 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: around the basket and they're letting everything go. Yeah, it's outrageous. 71 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,560 Speaker 1: There is a fade away that Jlen Brown took over 72 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: the top of Draymond Green at the foul line, and 73 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: they've showed it on replay and jeff An Gundy's like, 74 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: look at this amazing defense from Draymond. I'm like, he 75 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: found him six times on that possession. But it's like, 76 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm not mad about it because it's happening with everybody. 77 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: And you know that dynamic through three halves was leaning 78 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: heavily towards Boston and so what was really interesting And 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: I thought was really smart. I think it's probably Steve 80 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: Kerr that kind of picked up on this, and he 81 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: has been I think, in all likelihood, the best halftime 82 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: adjustments guy in this playoff field. I think when you 83 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: hear things, when you hear things like oh, who's the 84 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 1: better third quarter team? The better third quarter team, that 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: usually comes down to coaching. That comes down to a 86 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: coach that can identify where your issues were in the 87 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 1: first half, explain what needs to be done, and then 88 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: they go out and execute. And I think Kerr understood 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,719 Speaker 1: as is a very interesting psycho logical phenomenon that takes 90 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 1: place in with NBA officiating. The team that's at a disadvantage, 91 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 1: whether it's on the scoreboard or in the series, is 92 00:05:08,360 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: just going to get more leeway with officiating, because that's 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: just it's just human nature. I'm with you, Colin. I 94 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: don't believe in conspiracy theories. I don't believe anything's rigged, 95 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: but I do think that naturally officiating gears towards the 96 00:05:20,480 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: team that's at a disadvantage. I think Kerr came out 97 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 1: at halftime and was like, I need you guys to 98 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: beat them up back, because they're going to let you 99 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: because you're at a disadvantage, and they picked up that 100 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: physicality in that third quarter, and all of a sudden, 101 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum weren't getting the dribble penetration 102 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 1: that they were getting earlier. All of a sudden, they 103 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:42,640 Speaker 1: had a dominant quarter that was very similar to what 104 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: Boston did to them in the fourth quarter of Game one, 105 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: and next thing you know, the series is tied. Even 106 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: though you were probably the worst team for three of 107 00:05:50,560 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: the halves to this point, just like that, you needed 108 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: something to tip the dynamic, and you hit the nail 109 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: on the head with Jordan Poole. This Golden State team 110 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 1: desperately needed somebody to step up offensively because it was 111 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: looking like Steph at the top and then like four 112 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: Boston Celtics and then maybe Jordan Pool after that. They 113 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,720 Speaker 1: needed somebody to shift that dynamic, and today it was 114 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool and Clay Thompson. Even though he didn't have 115 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: a massive scoring night, I thought he hit some big 116 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 1: shots to start the third quarter that kind of just 117 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,359 Speaker 1: loosened things up a little bit for them. Yeah, and 118 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: I think Clay always gives you like a really smart 119 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: defensive effort. He's got his hands in the right places. 120 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: You know, I listen both these teams. I mean, Wiggins 121 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: missed about six Chippies, Clay missed three, Boston missed twenty. 122 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:39,040 Speaker 1: It was not an artistic masterpiece, but most of the 123 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: runs were on outside shots. You know, I was like 124 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 1: you after six quarters, I thought to myself, well, Boston's 125 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,720 Speaker 1: four best players are all in their prime. Warriors four 126 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: best players are all out of it. It's something. It's 127 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 1: not everything, it's something. Boston and looks a little twitchier 128 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 1: and a little quicker. You know, my I think game three, 129 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 1: I think you're going to get more Robert Williams. I 130 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: really do think the Celtics came in here thinking and listen, 131 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: let's just see how it goes. The minute it got 132 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 1: out of hand, We're not gonna just not worry about 133 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 1: Robert Williams. Let's just Al Horford. Let's get him out 134 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: of there. Robert Williams. So I'm interested to see the 135 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,640 Speaker 1: line in Game three because I would favor the Celtics. 136 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: But here's something now, Jason. So you know, when you 137 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: go on the road, Boston has been a team when 138 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:40,679 Speaker 1: they're favored, like Game six against Miami, they get tight. 139 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: So now we go home and we all expect them 140 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 1: to play great. They're five and four at home the 141 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 1: last I think it's the last nine games, or like 142 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 1: five and four at home. So whereas tonight, you know, 143 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: in these first six quarters, it's a little bit of 144 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 1: house money. There's not a lot of pressure there. The 145 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: underdog gets at Chase. They tend to play really well 146 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: and cough and scrappy as underdogs. Now they go home 147 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: and we're like, oh, they were just humiliated. This is 148 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 1: their game. They're they're not they're not yet to me, 149 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,080 Speaker 1: nearly as comfortable. Golden State's very comfortable, sometimes too comfortable. 150 00:08:20,120 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: As a favorite. They get sloppy and smug. Golden State. 151 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,960 Speaker 1: Boston gets tight, they get a little tight. And this 152 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,320 Speaker 1: is by you know, we both know this. That's what 153 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,480 Speaker 1: young teams do until you've got the title. You're not 154 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: something until you are. So I'm really interested to kind 155 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: of see Boston now has home court just got humiliated. 156 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: Now they have to be they have to perform great, 157 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: and now I think the series really gets interesting. Now, 158 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: it really to me, it really gets interesting. And I 159 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: still lean slightly Golden State. But if the refs allow 160 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 1: this and I said this after Game one. If Robert 161 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: Williams plays in six games and the refs allow this, 162 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: it's a coin flip to me, It really is. I 163 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:15,360 Speaker 1: feel like if Boston plays a certain way, they're going 164 00:09:15,440 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: to win this series. The question for me is whether 165 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: or not they're going to play that way. You know 166 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,959 Speaker 1: what I call it is, it's like if you ever 167 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 1: heard this expression calling it's like being allergic to success, 168 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: and and it's it's just the kind of personality or 169 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 1: the kind of groups, or the kind of teams where 170 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: when they're having success, they struggle to identify what's causing 171 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: the success. So, for instance, Jason Tatum tonight, you know, 172 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum had a nightmare shooting night in Game one, 173 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: but I thought he played better basketball in Game one 174 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 1: because as much as he missed shots, he was engaged 175 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: in physical on the defensive end, and most importantly, he 176 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:55,080 Speaker 1: understood that his role on this team, with the way 177 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: that Golden State is guarding them, is to create the 178 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 1: initial advantage. And the way that manifested was thirteen assists, 179 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 1: and I believe he only had three assists tonight. He 180 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: was minus thirty six and didn't play in the fourth quarter, 181 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: which is an outrageous number. But it's again it's because 182 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Tatum looked at it as like, I need to get 183 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: going as a scorer in game two, whereas the reality 184 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: was is like, actually they were winning even though you 185 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: If you just take that same set of shots you took, 186 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: maybe you make a couple more great, but you need 187 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 1: to do exactly what you did in game one. That's 188 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: what I mean by allergic to success. It's like you're 189 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: you're failing to understand that the reason why you had 190 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: the advantage to begin with is the Celtics were getting 191 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: into their drive and kick game and getting wide open 192 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: shots out of that. But there was nowhere near and 193 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 1: Jaylen Brown had a rough night tonight, so it was 194 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: even more important for Tatum to be the guy that 195 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: could be that consistent force. But it's like, and then 196 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 1: the other issue too here, Colin is like it's it's 197 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: almost like the problem with being too talented as a 198 00:10:58,920 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: skilled basketball player, where it's like you could see Tatum 199 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: take these incredibly difficult jump shots, like sidestep jump shots, 200 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: step back jump shots, turn around jump shots, and it's 201 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: the curse of being as talented as he is because 202 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: that counts is settling essentially, meaning like you understand you 203 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: have a physical advantage against somebody, and you could physically 204 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: press that advantage and get a high quality shot, but 205 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 1: you also work a lot this summer on this nifty 206 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: little step back and it looks pretty when it goes in, 207 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: and you know you can make it, and so you're 208 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,160 Speaker 1: staring at the guy and you're like, I could just 209 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 1: take this step back. It'll be easier on my legs, 210 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: maybe it'll go in. And that, to me, is an 211 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: example of that the burden of almost too much talent, 212 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: Like he got away from what was working for him 213 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 1: in Game one, which was slashing, getting into the paint, 214 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 1: collapsing the defense and getting everybody else going. I almost 215 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: feel if Jalen Brown had Jason Tatum's offensive talent and 216 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: Tatum had Jalen Brown's confidence, you'd have two stars. Like 217 00:11:56,520 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: I think Jalen thinks he's a little better than he is. 218 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: Jason doesn't know how good he is, and so you know, 219 00:12:03,520 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 1: like there are nights that Jalen's off and I just 220 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: wanted to say pull back, but that's not who he is. 221 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:11,680 Speaker 1: He's super athletic, he just he believes he can score anybody. 222 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: Tatum's gifted, but you can see it. We talked about 223 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: this after Game one. If Jason misses a couple of shots, 224 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,079 Speaker 1: has a couple of bad times down the floor, he's 225 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: much more willing to get rid of it. He's just 226 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: not going to shoot through it. And that's just his personality. 227 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 1: A couple of other things that jumped out to me 228 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: is I did think the Warriors got the whistle in 229 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: the first half. You know, it's you're it's gonna way, 230 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,439 Speaker 1: it's gonna work. The other thing, though, if you're Boston 231 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: that you have to feel pretty good. So if you 232 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: watch the Celtics enough, they have these six minute lulls, 233 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:47,160 Speaker 1: even on good nights there, and they had one tonight, 234 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 1: but at one point they had it and then they 235 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 1: corrected and they took the lead. It was in the 236 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,200 Speaker 1: first half, and I'm like, wow, Like that's trouble for 237 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,840 Speaker 1: the Warriors. The problem is they had a second one 238 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 1: in the third core and you're like, you can't have 239 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 1: two of those against the Warriors. But the thing that 240 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: I think bodes well for Boston is when they have 241 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: these six and seven minute lolls and the Warriors don't 242 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:14,320 Speaker 1: always have them, but the Warriors usually have them when 243 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: they're when they're motioned, they don't move enough. They get 244 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 1: very iso and that's when the Warriors are in trouble. 245 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 1: And they're very talented, so sometimes they just get into 246 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: watching staff. But the Celtics get into this because if 247 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: Tatum's not hitting, it's not a beautiful offensive team. Tonight 248 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 1: they had two or three long stretches, but they usually don't. 249 00:13:35,000 --> 00:13:37,839 Speaker 1: And I'll go back to this, in that first half 250 00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: when they had a six and a half minute low, 251 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: it didn't do much. They were down like eight nine, 252 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: and they got right back into it with a couple 253 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: of threes. They're not going to be this bad. This 254 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: is the worst Boston's going to play. That this will 255 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 1: not happen again, and Jordan Pool's not going to hit 256 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 1: thirty eight footers again. So I think my comment if 257 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: I look at the eight quarters played, take out the 258 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: fourth quarter of Game one for the Celtics, take out 259 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 1: the third quarter of Game two for the Warriors, and 260 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: my takeaway is something you said. I think Horford's better 261 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: than he was tonight. I think we're pretty even on 262 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: shot makers, and less Clay goes to the next level, 263 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: they both have about three or four guys that can 264 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 1: make shots, and I think it will Robert Williams remain healthy, 265 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: Draymond doesn't get another technical Like, I think we're gonna 266 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: have a really close series. Takeout Tonight's third in Game 267 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: one's fourth. It's pretty good matchup. They got shot makers, 268 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: both play really good defense, both of a star. My 269 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: only tweak on the series is I think it may 270 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 1: go seven. Yeah, I mean, it's exactly what we hoped 271 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 1: this series would be. Like, finally, two teams to where 272 00:14:55,080 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 1: if they don't bring their best effort, they're going to 273 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: get their butt kicked because you're playing against the team 274 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: that's actually at your level. I thought, I'm with you 275 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: if you're a Boston fan tonight, and I'm with you, 276 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not ready to jump off my Golden 277 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,560 Speaker 1: State pick. I was on Golden State in seven and 278 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: because I predicted, I predicted this exact phenomenon, the Jekyl 279 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: and Hide Boston thing. When they when they look good, 280 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: it looks like other teams are just completely swallowed up 281 00:15:17,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: by their athleticism and their ability to play both ends 282 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 1: of the floor. But then when they get sloppy on offense, 283 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: they go through stretches where they look like they literally 284 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: don't know what they're doing on offense, and then you know, 285 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: I thought this was a textbook game from Golden State too, 286 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: where they controlled all the all of the little details 287 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: of basketball games that are all factored into what makes 288 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: a good team. Like, for instance, they took better care 289 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 1: of the basketball than Boston. Boston had nineteen turnovers that 290 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 1: the Warriors scored thirty three points on those turnovers. Again, Colin, like, 291 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: when you turn the basketball over and you don't give 292 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 1: your defense a chance to get set, there's just a 293 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: huge deferent a difference trying to get a stop against 294 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: the team that's running at you when you are not 295 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: set versus when you've scored the basketball or you've got 296 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,960 Speaker 1: a quality shot and your defense was set so that 297 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:05,560 Speaker 1: now they can come down and they don't have an 298 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: initial advantage. When you get a team like Boston in 299 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: the half court is going to have a big advantage 300 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 1: in this series because of their physicality, because of their size. 301 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 1: But if you can, as Golden State, get a third 302 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,240 Speaker 1: of your offense just by running up and down the 303 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 1: floor for layups and wide open threes when they're throwing 304 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 1: the ball away. You're gonna have your opportunities there. But 305 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:24,680 Speaker 1: I'm with you if you're Boston, like you're gonna go 306 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: home in Game three. They're three and a half point 307 00:16:26,400 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: favorites right now, and FanDuel, I expect them to play 308 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: the Celtic. Three Celtics or three and a half point favorites. Yes, 309 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: And so the way I'm looking at that is, I 310 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: think that to your point, Boston's not riding high anymore. 311 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: They just got their butt kicked. You know, they're gonna 312 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: come in and play with intensity and with focus. You 313 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: know Tatum and Brown are gonna bring it. I wouldn't 314 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: be surprised if Boston won big in Game three, But 315 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: then it's like, we're gonna be sitting here having a 316 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 1: conversation and it's gonna be like, what are you expect 317 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: in Game four? I expect Boston to come out flat 318 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: because they've done that time and time and time again 319 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: throughout this playoff run. I thought I thought, I just 320 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:07,400 Speaker 1: in general them of Golden State flipping that physicality dynamic 321 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:10,360 Speaker 1: was it was very good for them in that second half, 322 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: but for the series, in all likelihood, that's an advantage 323 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 1: that will stay in Boston's corner. If I'm hand checking 324 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 1: you and I have an extra twenty pounds on muscle 325 00:17:20,359 --> 00:17:22,199 Speaker 1: on you, my hand checks are going to do a 326 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 1: better job of holding you in your spot than if 327 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:27,040 Speaker 1: you're skinnier and smaller than me and I'm driving on you. 328 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: Even if you got your hands on me, I'm going 329 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,399 Speaker 1: to blow right through that. So I think over the 330 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: course of the series that advantage favors Boston, but kudos 331 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:39,760 Speaker 1: the Golden State for flipping it on them. Tonight. The 332 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: NBA Finals are here, and so is your chance to 333 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: score big on fandel Sportsbook. 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Yeah, I thought, 362 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: if you're a Warrior fan, you have to feel good 363 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: about Jordan Poole because he was completely ineffective in game 364 00:19:23,480 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: one and mostly ineffective both sides of the floor in 365 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:30,719 Speaker 1: Game two in the first half. And that's as we 366 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: started this, I said, this can't be just Steph like 367 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 1: Clay is not what he was. He's just not getting 368 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: as good as looks he just he doesn't. His movements 369 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: a little off, um, you know, two big injuries. It's 370 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: a little off, not quite as quick. But he's always 371 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: been a guy that shoots, you know, Clay is funny. 372 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: Van Gunny was kind of criticism criticizing him tonight for 373 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 1: some of his shots. But Clay has got a lot 374 00:19:55,880 --> 00:19:58,119 Speaker 1: of leaners. You know, he doesn't create a shot as 375 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: well as like Stepher or maybe a Tatum. So some 376 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 1: of the shots are just ugly like he does a 377 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 1: lot of leaners and a lot of them go in, 378 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: but they're Jordan Pool's not going to hit as much 379 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: as he hit tonight. They're gonna need Jordan Pool to 380 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: not freeze in the headlights in Boston because this defense 381 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,919 Speaker 1: and you saw it. You've seen it in probably you know, 382 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 1: of the eight quarters, you've probably seen it in five 383 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: to five and a half to maybe six of them. 384 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: They're making Boston takes some off balance, hurried shots. There's 385 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: a reason the Warriors are missing some gimmes when you 386 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: have to hurry. You know, some of those with Wiggins, 387 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 1: he's got he's contested, he's got a hand in his face. 388 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: So you know, you can just say the Warriors are 389 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,760 Speaker 1: missing gimmes, but that's the reality of it. And for 390 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: the record, Boston missing gimmes two because Looney's a presence 391 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: defensively and Draymond's a presence. So I didn't think either team. 392 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: Both left about twenty points on the table on little 393 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: chippy stuff inside. But you know, I think I think 394 00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: you and I both agree to long series. I do 395 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: want to and again I want to remind people, please 396 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 1: subscribe to our channel here see it after your right, 397 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: I think it is, maybe it's your left. Subscribe to 398 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: the volume sports here during the finals. We've gotten live. 399 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 1: We haven't ready done that before, but we just want 400 00:21:19,440 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 1: to give you the most urgent, thoughtful stuff that Jason 401 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 1: and I think of immediately after the game. I did 402 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: want to touch on one thing. Quinn Snyder and Brad 403 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,280 Speaker 1: Stevens did this in Boston. He lost the locker room. 404 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:36,200 Speaker 1: He said, you know, certain guys are turning me out, 405 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: and he went upstairs and made the Al Horford trade. Right, 406 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: good trade, Derek White move. Quinn Snyder, I think looked 407 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 1: at this. Rudy Gobert and Donovan Mitchell don't get along. 408 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: It's the worst kept secret in the world. And Snyder's 409 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: already good coach. I think he coached Messouri seven years. 410 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 1: They had a winning record every year. He had a 411 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: winning record in the tournament. You know, after the first 412 00:21:57,119 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: couple of years he took over a rocky situation with 413 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 1: a jazz. He's had a great records, number one record 414 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 1: in the West. One or two years, he'll get a job. 415 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: He'll get a pick his assignment. He's got young kids, 416 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,199 Speaker 1: you know, he's not going to quit working, and a 417 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: lot of people like him, and I think he'll sit 418 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: back for a year and kind of pick the job 419 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 1: he wants. He's very well respected, super cerebral guy. But 420 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: it's interesting because I do think Donovan Mitchell's a great 421 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: to me, is a great two. He's a willing defender, 422 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: though not a great one when he went to Louisville. 423 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 1: Actually he told me, with Patino he was he came 424 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: as a defensive guy, like Patino made him play defense, 425 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: and now he's become a very an abundant offensive player. 426 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: But I think wherever he goes, you know, the Nicks 427 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: made to try to make him a one, I think 428 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 1: he's better as a two. But how do you see 429 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,679 Speaker 1: the Utah situation, because to me, it feels like, listen, 430 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 1: it's it's almost as good as they've been. It feels 431 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 1: like a little bit of a reboot. That's what it 432 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,359 Speaker 1: feels like to me, is that like when Mitchell and 433 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: Gobert do not get along, Quinn's like, I'm out. It's 434 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 1: a sign, you know, they're not that they're way in 435 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: the white flag here a little bit. But it is 436 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: sort of a all right, the coaches out, the stars 437 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: hate each other. What do you think happens with Utah 438 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell? So it's super interesting you said Donovan Mitchell's 439 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,880 Speaker 1: a number two. A huge part of that is he 440 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: to me, qualifies as a number two. It's a reason 441 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: why a guy like Devin Booker falls into that camp. 442 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: For me is if you can't be a reliable, offensive fulcrum, 443 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: meaning the guy who has to make the majority of 444 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 1: the decisions on every single possession. Both guys like Devin 445 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,920 Speaker 1: Booker guys like Donovan Mitchell are way too volatile as playmakers. 446 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: Donovan Mitchell is a lot closer to like, almost like 447 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: a Russell Westbrook with his shot selection, in his approach 448 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: every trip down the floor. He obviously he's obviously a 449 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: different type of player in a lot of different ways, 450 00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 1: but his approach to the game, he never sees a 451 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: shot he doesn't like. He doesn't understand the flow of 452 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 1: a game. He's not good at keeping his teammates involved. 453 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: He's a big part of I Rudy Gobert wasn't able 454 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: to punish mismatches under the rim over the course the 455 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,720 Speaker 1: last couple of years, So there's a lot of issues there. 456 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:05,439 Speaker 1: The issue to me in terms of moving forward with 457 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: Utah is which guy do you trade? Because the easy 458 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: answer is like, oh, you move Gobert. Donovan Mitchell looks 459 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: like a star star. The fans love him there, that's 460 00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: all great. The issue is I am worried about Rudy's 461 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: trade value because he's so bad offensively. A lot of 462 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: the criticism of him on defense is completely wrong, like 463 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: it's more of a twitter mean than it is a 464 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: real thing that's happening on the court. He is a 465 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,240 Speaker 1: phenomenal defensive player in every facet of defense. If anybody 466 00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: tells you something differently, they don't know what they're talking about. 467 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 1: The issue is is he's a offensive liability. He can't 468 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: punish mismatches. He's basically Clint Capella on offense. And he 469 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:44,240 Speaker 1: makes like forty seven million dollars five years from now. 470 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:47,120 Speaker 1: So that's the issue. Is Like I'd like to say 471 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: you rebuilt around Donovan Mitchell, but I don't know how 472 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 1: you trade Gobert. What are you going to get for him? 473 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 1: Probably bad contracts in return, And so I know it 474 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:58,080 Speaker 1: sounds crazy, but what I would look at and Jazz 475 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 1: fans don't want to hear this, but I think Donovan 476 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 1: Mitchell is closer to a Russell Westbrook type of personality 477 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: than to like a John Morant, someone I'd feel really 478 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 1: comfortable with my franchise moving forward. He's into defense exactly. 479 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: He's Donovan Mitchell hasn't even tried like he's if anything. 480 00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:17,840 Speaker 1: He's completely let go of the defensive rope since he 481 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: was in college. He has trade value, So I would 482 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: be targeting someone like Toronto, someone that needs offense, and 483 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,480 Speaker 1: I'd be like, Hey, what can I get for Donov Mitchell? 484 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: Can I get Pascal Siakam? Can I get Pascal Siakam 485 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: and maybe one other really good wing? Because then what 486 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: I'm looking at if I'm Utah, is like, what if 487 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: I had Rudy Gobert with good defensive players? Because Rudy 488 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: Gobert has carried a terrible defensive roster year in and 489 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 1: year out for the last half decade. Can you imagine 490 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: that guy with real defensive wings. That would be the 491 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 1: approach that I would go. I just think that's a 492 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: quicker path to a quick rebuild that shuffles the culture 493 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: and has them playing better as opposed to trying to 494 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,360 Speaker 1: trade a add contract and Rudy Gobert and and and again. 495 00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: Again it's Donovan Mitchell's trade Bellu. You just have more 496 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: options there. Yeah, it's a it's a really well run franchise, 497 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: um Donovan's I mean, listen, Westbrook has moved multiple times, 498 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 1: so I do think Donovan has some Westbrook tendencies. I 499 00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: trust him more taking a jumper. I've met him before 500 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: and I really like him. I give him a little 501 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: bit of a pass because I don't know he and 502 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: Golbert just, you know, after that COVID thing, it's just disintegrated, 503 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,199 Speaker 1: like he just doesn't he won't pass to him, like 504 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 1: he just won't. So, I mean, listen, I've always had 505 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: this theory in the NBA, you can't win a championship 506 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: with an awful contract. Donovan is going to make a 507 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 1: lot of money, but there are some offensive gifts. Gobert's 508 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: contract is at the end awful. I mean it's it's 509 00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: it's just awful. So I would move probably Rudy, and 510 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: I also think there's an argument to be made with 511 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 1: the Dallas Mavericks. See I've argued this for years. Steph's 512 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: never going to be a great defensive player. Own it 513 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: and then surround him with twitchy athletes. Luca were four 514 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: years in when I was four years into my career 515 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 1: in this business. I've gotten better, but there were certain 516 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: things that I did well. I still do well. There 517 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: are certain limitations four years in the NBA. I know 518 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: what you are. Lucas never going to be an elite 519 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,480 Speaker 1: defensive player, so surround him and Jalen Brunson if you 520 00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: resigned him, he's tiny, So like to me, Gobert makes 521 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 1: sense there, Just get a rim protector because people are 522 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,840 Speaker 1: getting by Jalen and they're getting by Luca, and you 523 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: know that one makes a little bit of sense to me. 524 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: I think I'd probably try to keep Donovan and work 525 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 1: around him. Listen, the tougher situation to be in is 526 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 1: the Lakers, where you've got two big problems. Westbrook is 527 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: toxic and has no self awareness and is way out 528 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,960 Speaker 1: of his prime. At least Donovan Mitchell's kind of in 529 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,239 Speaker 1: his prime. So Westbrook's out of his prime, toxic, and 530 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: it just doesn't get it. And I've I was told 531 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:19,560 Speaker 1: yesterday by somebody around the Lakers that it's worse than 532 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 1: you think. Okay, so the organization is just like, oh, 533 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,239 Speaker 1: it's bad. The other problem you have is not just 534 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 1: that Anthony Davis is always hurt. Anthony doesn't work terribly hard, 535 00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: and that's just guys do or they don't. You're either 536 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Brady Lebron or you're just possessed by it 537 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,600 Speaker 1: or you're not. And there's there's I say this all 538 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: the time, there's a lot of things you can coach. 539 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: You can't coach indifference. You just can't. So anybody, that's 540 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 1: my two big takeaways. You do hoops tonight on the Lakers, 541 00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: give me give me your thumbnail on again to our 542 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: audience on what to do if you're the GM of 543 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: the Lakers and I said, okay, you get two big moves, 544 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: what would they be? Oh, that's interesting. Okay, So first 545 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: of all, flip r us role players. And then learn 546 00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: from what I always tell I always say on my show, 547 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: learn from what is working in this playoff round. If 548 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: you're a fan of some team out there and you're 549 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: wondering what they should do this offseason, pay close attention 550 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: to your television screens and what is working in this 551 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: league right now. How many Dwight Howard types are getting 552 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: meaningful minutes and actually playing and meaningful basketball. Not many 553 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 1: at this point in the season. So if you're targeting 554 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: that type, your mind's in the wrong place. How many 555 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 1: six six to six nine strong, twitchy guys have been 556 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: functional or useful in the late playoff rounds? All of them? Right? 557 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 1: And so that's what I would target is overpaid, you know, 558 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: longer deals for bigger wings. You know, I'm not a 559 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,200 Speaker 1: huge fan of Gordon Hayward with his injury history, but 560 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: that's the kind of guy that if you can bring 561 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: him in in a tertiary role next to Lebron in 562 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: a d he can be super functional. He can bring 563 00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: a ton more value than what he did for Charlotte 564 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: where they needed him to do so much more offensively. 565 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: That's the type of player that I would target. Now. 566 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: The second thing here is you got these two first 567 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: round draft picks, but you also have this Kendrick Nunn contract, 568 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: who's a pretty discounted backup point guard around the league. 569 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: You can have him for five million. And then you've 570 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: got Taylor Horton Tucker, who's been a disaster with the 571 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: Lakers this last season. But Colin, like, how much can 572 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: you blame the kid? Can you imagine being a twenty 573 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,600 Speaker 1: one year old in that shit storm trying to develop 574 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: as a basketball player as you're having everything going on 575 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: with Westbrook and the passive aggressive comments and postgame pressers 576 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:46,320 Speaker 1: and guys in and out of the lineup, and then 577 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 1: in the Laker fan base and how hard they can 578 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:51,160 Speaker 1: be on people like it's just tough. I'm a big 579 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: believer that Taylor's not a star, but he can be 580 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 1: a functional player somewhere in the league. So you package 581 00:30:55,640 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 1: a guy like Taylan with Kendrick Nunn in a draft 582 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: pick and again target another wing the Lakers. You know, 583 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: I talked about perimeter size to begin this show. It 584 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 1: was the number one thing I'd learned from the film 585 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 1: study from Game one of the Finals, and by the way, 586 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 1: calling for everyone listening the day after these shows, I 587 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: always rewatched the game in its entirety, and I do 588 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: about a half hour of just notes, just x's, and 589 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 1: those all in the weeds of the series. So stay 590 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:22,520 Speaker 1: tuned to our YouTube feed tomorrow morning if you want 591 00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: to see that. But when I was diving into that 592 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: film once again, it was perimeter size for Boston that 593 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 1: made that difference. I would like to see the Lakers 594 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 1: rectify their catastrophic issue from last year, which was way 595 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: too much Anthony Davis and Lebron in the front corner, 596 00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: Anthony Davison, Dwight with Avery Bradley and Ken Drick Nun 597 00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:41,640 Speaker 1: and Taylor or not Kendra Night with Taylor Norton, Tucker 598 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: and Malik Monk and all of these really small, skinny 599 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: players on the perimeter that we're just getting destroyed. So 600 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 1: that I'd like to see the Lakers get back to 601 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: their twenty twenty identity, which was big wings Alex Caruso, 602 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: Contavious Calwell, Pope, Kyle Kuzma, all six, five to six, 603 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: nine compete physical re bounders. Those are that's what won 604 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: you the championship, That's what's winning for both of these 605 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: teams right now in the finals. That needs to be 606 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:09,000 Speaker 1: the direction that they go in. And but what are 607 00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: the Lakers probably gonna do? Colin? They'll probably be like, 608 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 1: can we get Zach Levine? Like what if we could 609 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: flip Russ for John Wall? Let's get a star in here. 610 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,440 Speaker 1: You know, that's just their approach to everything. All right, 611 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 1: let's go back to the finals. It's one one Celtics 612 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: three and a half point favorites. I like Boston. I 613 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: think they win by about five or six. I think 614 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: Horford rebounds, you get a friendly whistle. I don't think 615 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:40,000 Speaker 1: Jordan Pool can duplicate some of the shots tonight. I 616 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: did think Clay is going to play better. You know, 617 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 1: my take is as a franchise they were kind of 618 00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: resting Robert Williams tonight, We're gonna see what they got 619 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,920 Speaker 1: out of him. I think he'll have more minutes from 620 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: Robert Williams, a better game from Al Horteford, a better 621 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: game from Marcus Smart. I think the Warriors pull back 622 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: a little bit offensively, not they won't be quite as hot. 623 00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the Celtics by about five in Game three. 624 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 1: Year thoughts, So I actually expect Boston to win big 625 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,000 Speaker 1: in Game three because I just think it'll be the 626 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: wave of the crowd, the first NBA Finals game in 627 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 1: Boston since twenty ten. Right, there's gonna be an incredible 628 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,840 Speaker 1: historic type of vibe in there, the Celtics facing a 629 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: little bit of real adversity. You know, you were talking 630 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 1: about Horford having a better game. Colin our Own dreamand Green, who, 631 00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 1: as you have said, and I agree, has the best 632 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 1: sports podcast in America right now, in the world, yeah, 633 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: in the world. In the film, when I was watching it, 634 00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: he was kind of like you know, in the game, 635 00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: when you're watching it live, you see what's happening, but 636 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:52,560 Speaker 1: you have to rewatch to really see what's happening, which 637 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 1: I totally understand for you, you you were way too busy 638 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,400 Speaker 1: of a man to just sit down tomorrow morning and 639 00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: watch three hours of Warrior Celtics again. But like on 640 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: the film, Draymond was daring Horford to shoot, there wasn't 641 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: even a close out on most of them tonight, Al 642 00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: Horford zero three point attempts. Draymond completely erased that factor 643 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,799 Speaker 1: from the game in one night. He said on his 644 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: show he'd make the adjustment, and he did. And you know, sometimes, 645 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 1: especially for there's a lot of guys like Al Horford 646 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 1: and Derek White in particular, they'll shoot when they're open, 647 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: and when they get a groove, they'll be a little 648 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,359 Speaker 1: more aggressive, but they're not gunners. So like if you 649 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: can throw them a soft close out, they won't even shoot, 650 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, they'll just keep it moving. And that was 651 00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: an interesting example from Draymond tonight to flip that dynamic. 652 00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:43,280 Speaker 1: But that said, Boston nineteen turnovers for thirty three points tonight, 653 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: that's something they'll clean up. Tatum and Brown both had 654 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: rough nights. They're going to be better in Game three. 655 00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: I expect that physicality dynamic to flip back towards Boston. 656 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 1: One of my favorite bets on FanDuel lately has been 657 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: alternate spreads. I actually was on it tonight for Golden 658 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: State because I expected them to win big. But I 659 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: gotta at minus fourteen and a half for like plus 660 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,319 Speaker 1: four hundred. That's gonna be the kind of thing I'm 661 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: gonna be looking at in this Game three spread, is 662 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:09,360 Speaker 1: what kind of odds we can get on an alternate 663 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,280 Speaker 1: spread in that ten to fifteen range, because I think 664 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: that in Golden State, also with Steve Kerr knowing they 665 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:17,879 Speaker 1: have some older guys and some guys that are dealing 666 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 1: with some injuries, I could see him pulling the plug 667 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,960 Speaker 1: a little bit early too if the game is out 668 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: of hand. So I expect Boston to win big in 669 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,439 Speaker 1: Game three, and then Game four becomes the pivotal moment 670 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: of the series. Does Boston put a second good effort 671 00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:33,320 Speaker 1: together and put themselves in a big advantage or do 672 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: they let their foot off the gas? Do guys you 673 00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: had mentioned Jordan Poole, He's obviously the biggest wing factor. 674 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm with you. I don't think Clay's gonna get it going. 675 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: He's just not getting good shots. Like it's not like 676 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,200 Speaker 1: we're sitting here watching play choke under the pressure. He 677 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,720 Speaker 1: against this Boston defense. If it's if it's him flying 678 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: off a screen, it's still contested. His fadeaways are incredibly contested. 679 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,000 Speaker 1: He's had a handful of plays where he's gotten a 680 00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: lay up attacking a close out, but he's not getting 681 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: good looks. Clay's not going to get going in this 682 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: series unless Boston makes a lot of mistakes. But Jordan 683 00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 1: Pool is going to be the guy to watch. I 684 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,520 Speaker 1: Steph has just become reliable, Like you could just count 685 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,319 Speaker 1: on the guy to be a monster every single night. 686 00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 1: But they need something from Jordan Pool to steal one 687 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: of these games in Boston. All right, Jason timp hoops tonight, 688 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,560 Speaker 1: he'll break it down. We'll put it all over our stuff, 689 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 1: all over the Volume. Please subscribe to the Volume Sports 690 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: YouTube channel. It's left or right, one of those, all right, 691 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: my man, good job or not in at one. Game 692 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: three is Wednesday, same time, same place, Thanks man, see 693 00:36:32,520 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: your next time. The Volume