1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: So, as many of you know at home, I live 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: in the free State of Florida. I was born in Virginia, 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Virginian by birth, Floridian by choice. And I keep hearing 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: all this advertising telling me to vote yes on Amendment four. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: I attended a dinner recently and I heard this guy 6 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,240 Speaker 1: speak and he started an organization. He started a group 7 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: to advocate against voting yes on Amendment four, telling us 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: to vote no. 9 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 2: So what is Amendment for? 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Basically, in the state of Florida, it would codify and 11 00:00:31,040 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: enshrine into law the ability to have late term abortions 12 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: in the state. You've got all the pro abortion players 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 1: spending tens of millions of dollars here in the state 14 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 1: of Florida telling people to vote yes, but the message 15 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 1: isn't getting across to vote no. So that's what we're 16 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: going to talk about today. So I am solidly pro life. 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 1: I can't, for the life of me understand how you've 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: got something like thirty eight states across America that have 19 00:00:54,040 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 1: fetal homicide loss. If a woman who is pregnant is 20 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 1: murdered and a unborn child is murdered, that is a homicide. 21 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: That is murder. But it's not murder if someone decides 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: to do it to themselves. I got a real kick 23 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: out of COVID of not getting the vaccine when that 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: was actually my body, my choice, right because everyone was 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: spreading COVID regardless of vaccination status. That really was my body, 26 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: my choice. Yet they were trying to force the vaccine 27 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,200 Speaker 1: down our throats and into her arms. But in the 28 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:25,759 Speaker 1: instance of a pregnancy, I'm sorry, but it's not your 29 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 1: body your choice. There's another human life to consider. I 30 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: might have this guy Boheymen on my podcast to take 31 00:01:32,319 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 1: us through everything you need to know about Amendment for, 32 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: why you should vote against Amendment for and if you 33 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 1: don't live in the state of Florida, there are a 34 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: lot of these ballot measures on the ballot in states 35 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,680 Speaker 1: across the country. And also it's just important to listen 36 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: to this episode to pay attention to what's on your 37 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: ballot in November. So stay tuned for Boheymen with First 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: Care of Florida and who also started the group read 39 00:01:55,520 --> 00:01:57,440 Speaker 1: Between Thelies dot Org. 40 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:58,920 Speaker 2: Stay tuned. 41 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,640 Speaker 1: Well, Bo, it's great to have you on the podcast. 42 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: You know we're Filaridians. And with that, there's this ballot 43 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: measure called Amendment For that we will be voting on 44 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: in November. And so when don't have you to come 45 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: on the show to talk to us a little bit 46 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: about what people should know. I guess you know, we'll 47 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: start off with the basics. What is Amendment for? 48 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 3: Well, in a nutshell, I would describe Amendment for as 49 00:02:29,800 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 3: a radical pro abortion amendment. I mean, that's not what 50 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:35,080 Speaker 3: it's going to be labeled as on the balot, but 51 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 3: that's really what it is. It's an amendment that would 52 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: legalize abortion through all forty weeks of pregnancies while we're 53 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 3: removing all safeguards for women and we remove parental consent 54 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 3: for minors, and it allows uh even painful dismenderment abortions 55 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 3: all the way through forty weeks of pregnancy. 56 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: And so. 57 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: You know, you said they would remove you know what 58 00:02:57,400 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 1: sort of like regulations would it remove in the state 59 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: in terms for abortions. 60 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 3: Well, in Florida, we have a bill that was passed 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 3: last year, but it didn't go into effect until May first. 62 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: It's called the Heartbeat Protection Act, and the Heartbeat Protection 63 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 3: Act says that you can't have an abortion after six weeks. 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 3: Six weeks is generally when a heartbeat is detectable. It's 65 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 3: a little different from what some other states have where 66 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:21,960 Speaker 3: you actually have to go and get an ultrasound and 67 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: see a heart beat. Here, if you're six weeks pregnant, 68 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 3: you can no longer have an abortion. But there are 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: a number of exceptions. So there are exceptions for maternal health, 70 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 3: there's exceptions for fetal abnormalities, there are exceptions for women 71 00:03:36,200 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: who have been the victims of rape, incest, sex trafficking. 72 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 3: There are now you don't necessarily even need these things 73 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: to be explicitly mentioned as exceptions. But of course, miscarriage 74 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,520 Speaker 3: care dncs after a miscarriage, all of those things are 75 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: completely legal currently in the state of Florida. So there's 76 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 3: a lot of misunderstandings and people think, well, gosh, and 77 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:01,360 Speaker 3: let's I vote yes on this, I won't be able 78 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: to get miscarriage care. Completely incorrect. I mean, you can 79 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 3: already get all the miscarriage care that you need right 80 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 3: here in the state of Florida. And if you're a 81 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 3: victim of rape, princess, they already have exceptions for that too. 82 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 1: Hey, guys, are there any guardrails with amendment for in 83 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:18,240 Speaker 1: terms of are there any limitations for when someone could 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 1: get an abortion, or what does that look like for amendment? 85 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 3: For well, I have a full text at the amendment here, right, 86 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 3: it's thirty six words long. So it says no laws 87 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 3: show prohibit, penalize, delay, or restrict abortion before viability or 88 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 3: when necessary to protect the patient's health, as determined by 89 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 3: the patient's health care provider. Right. So, if nothing prohibits, penalizes, delays, 90 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: or restricts abortion, you know that's not actually a good thing. 91 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 3: So what are the something What are some things that 92 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 3: you know restrict abortion? Well, currently, in Florida, a licensed 93 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:57,919 Speaker 3: medical doctor has to perform your abortion. He has to 94 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,719 Speaker 3: perform it in a surgical facility, he has to have 95 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 3: admitting rights at a nearby hospital in case something goes wrong. 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: All those regulations are going to be out the window, 97 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 3: which basically means anyone will be able to perform an 98 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: abortion anywhere with any method. Now, the funny thing is 99 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 3: the reason that we were told that abortion needed to 100 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 3: be legal is to get rid of back alley abortions. Right, 101 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:25,359 Speaker 3: unlicensed medical people doing unlicensed abortions. This actually makes that legal, 102 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:29,239 Speaker 3: So it removes all of the safeguards that already exist 103 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 3: on abortion and listen, I know I'm a very pro 104 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 3: life person. I don't think abortion should be legal, but 105 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 3: if it's going to be legal, it should have safeguards 106 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 3: on it at a minimum, and this lift those safeguards. 107 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: So it talks about viability. But here it says that 108 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: you can't restrict a prohibit abortion and so or delay. 109 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 3: So currently in Florida, in order to get abortion an abortion, 110 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: you have to have an ultrasound, right, and the doctor 111 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,480 Speaker 3: has to offer the opportunity for the patient to at 112 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 3: least be the ultrasound. So if a woman's having an 113 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 3: abortion and then you can't delay it, then you can't 114 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 3: have an ultrasome requirement. How do we even know this 115 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 3: woman is still pregnant? How do we know she has 116 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 3: a pregnancy that is going to be viable? And not 117 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,440 Speaker 3: only that, how do we know how old the child 118 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 3: is that's being aborted. If you're not required to have 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,400 Speaker 3: an ultrasound, that's all going to be up to the 120 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:23,719 Speaker 3: discretion of the abortionists. So yeah, really dangerous for women. 121 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: So how do they define viability? 122 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 3: They don't And that's it. I read you the entire thing. 123 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: I didn't read the little preamble leading up to it, 124 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,080 Speaker 3: but there is no definition of viability, so it's subject 125 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: to interpretation. Now, many people think viability occurs around twenty 126 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 3: two weeks. There's been some babies who've been born prior 127 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 3: to that who have survived. But what if it gets 128 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: interpreted as I don't know, thirty six weeks, like a 129 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,679 Speaker 3: full term, that's when a baby becomes viable. And again, 130 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 3: without an ultrastar requirement, how would you even know how 131 00:06:58,080 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 3: far along you are? 132 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: Is it safe to say or is it accurate to 133 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: say that this would allow for late term abortions? 134 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,240 Speaker 3: Oh, one hundred percent, it's right there in the plain text. 135 00:07:09,640 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: So after viability, right, which we don't know how to 136 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: determine because we haven't said when it is and we 137 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 3: can't require an ultrasound, But after viability, it says when 138 00:07:19,560 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 3: when necessary to protect the patients health. Again, health is 139 00:07:22,760 --> 00:07:26,400 Speaker 3: undefined as determined by the patient's health care provider. Again, 140 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: health care provider is undefined. In the state of Florida, 141 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 3: a health care provider is defined very broadly, So basically, 142 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: if you're in health care and you're regulated by the state, 143 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: you're considered a health care provider. So people who have 144 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: good will right, people like me and you or just 145 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 3: kind of you run in the middle person off the street. 146 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: They can read that and they can take it to mean, well, 147 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 3: if the woman's about to die and the doctor says 148 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: she needs the abortion, then she can have the abortion. 149 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 3: But that's not what it says. It says a health 150 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 3: care provider, So he's your dental hygienist, a health care provider. 151 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 3: Can they say that you need an abortion for your 152 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 3: mental health for instance? All of this is completely unclear. 153 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,640 Speaker 3: And yes, it does pave the way for abortion up 154 00:08:07,680 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 3: to full term babies. And the only way to abort 155 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,400 Speaker 3: a full term baby is with a painful dismemberment abortion. 156 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: And talk about what does that entail. 157 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: A dismemberment abortion. 158 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 2: Yes, go through the process of what they do. 159 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: Well. So for years they like to obfuscate and say 160 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: that abortion was okay because it was just a lump 161 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 3: of tissue, right, And that's been dispelled because everyone has 162 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 3: seen pictures online of ultrasounds and we know that it's 163 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 3: a fully formed baby very early on. But through viability, 164 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 3: let's say you're thirty six weeks a thirty six year 165 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: old baby is considered full term. Well, it's too small. 166 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sorry, it's too big to remove safely 167 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,559 Speaker 3: through the woman's cervix in one piece. And so what 168 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 3: the doctors do is, this is a child that's fully 169 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 3: capable of feeling pain. They're going to dilate the cervix. 170 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,839 Speaker 3: They're going to reach in there with instrument, and they 171 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 3: start pulling off pieces of the unborn child and extracting 172 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,800 Speaker 3: it through the cervix. It's completely gruesome. There are very 173 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 3: few people in the country who are willing to perform 174 00:09:11,480 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 3: this kind of abortion because it's so gruesome. And yet 175 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:17,559 Speaker 3: here we are saying, hey, here's a good idea. Let's 176 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 3: put this into Florida's constitution. 177 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: Does this amendment, you know, we look at certain states 178 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: like Minnesota that have removed protections for for babies born 179 00:09:29,679 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: alive after botched abortions. What does amendment for mean for that? 180 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: Does does it change anything in regard to you know, 181 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 1: baby is born alive? What should we know about that? 182 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: That's unclear here, So I would refer you. For instance, 183 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 3: Amendment three in Florida is the marijuana Amendment. It's four 184 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 3: pages long. It defines things like marijuana, marijuana usage, personal use, 185 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 3: all these kinds of things. It's actually pages and pages 186 00:09:57,640 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 3: of definitions. Here does an define the term abortion? And 187 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 3: that may seem silly, like, oh, we know what an 188 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 3: abortion is, but in Florida law and a lot of 189 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: Florida law in legislation, they didn't use the word abortion. 190 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 3: They used the term i top which is an intentional 191 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:19,079 Speaker 3: termination of pregnancy well as a termination of pregnancy. Right, 192 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: So what if the fetus is born alive? What if 193 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 3: a viable fetus is born alife, the pregnancy has been terminated, 194 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 3: So it's unclear whether or not doctors would have to 195 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 3: give life sustaining care to that child who's been born. 196 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 3: And since we know that abortion is legal after viability, 197 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 3: you're gonna have viable children capable of arriving outside of 198 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 3: the womb. And again it's unclear what would. 199 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: Happen here if Amendment four is passed in Florida. I 200 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: guess where does it put us comparatively speaking to other 201 00:10:50,080 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: states in terms of accepting abortions. 202 00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 3: I think you would make us amongst the most extreme. 203 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 3: So if you think about most states, they have some 204 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 3: kind of regulations on abortion, whether like Florida, it's six 205 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 3: weeks or twelve weeks or fifteen weeks, and even those 206 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: that have, you know, kind of more liberal laws, like 207 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 3: they allow abortiones at fifteen weeks, most of them have 208 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 3: something similar to what Florida currently has where they require 209 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 3: physicians to perform the abortions, et cetera. So this would 210 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 3: make us among the most extreme. And the states that 211 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:25,080 Speaker 3: border Florida they all have really strict abortion laws. So 212 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 3: this is going to make Florida an abortion tourism destination. 213 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 3: Like Floridians would love to brag about our great weather 214 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: and beaches, we want to be a tourist destination. This 215 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 3: is going to make us an abortion destination because if 216 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 3: you can't get your abortion in Alabama or Georgia, it's 217 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 3: easy enough to come right across the state lines. And 218 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 3: what you're going to see is a proliferation of these 219 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: unlicensed abortion clinics because again it will be illegal to 220 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 3: license an abortion clinic. I have a friend that runs 221 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 3: a wonderful group and they do undercover investigations on a 222 00:11:59,760 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 3: bordortion clinics. And I think it was last year, maybe 223 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 3: the year before they closed down, they helped to close 224 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 3: down an abortion clinic in Pensacola, Florida. This abortion clinic 225 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: had a doctor who had horrible hand trimmers. He was 226 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 3: performing abortions, surgical abortions on women. They didn't have sanitary environments. 227 00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 3: They would take women across the state lines and dump 228 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 3: them in emergency rooms if there was some kind of 229 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: medical emergency during the abortion. So they gathered a bunch 230 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 3: of information they presented to the Florida Attorney General. In 231 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 3: the Florida Attorney General shut them down. They did a 232 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 3: similar investigation in Colorado and they took all that information 233 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 3: to the attorney general. The Attorney General looked at it 234 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,760 Speaker 3: and he said, you know, you're a hundred percent correct, 235 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 3: But because we've passed a law that doesn't allow us 236 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 3: to regulate abortion, we can't shut this clinic down. If 237 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 3: it was any other kind of surgical clinic, we could 238 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 3: shut it down. But because it's abortion and we can't 239 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 3: regulate it, our hands are tied. That's what's going to 240 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 3: happen in Florida. 241 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 1: So let's say a parent has a daughter, you know, 242 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: under the age of eighteen, and she decides to get 243 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 1: an abortion in Florida without telling her parents. 244 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 2: Would they have to approve of that with amendment for 245 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 2: or what does that mean? For the parents in that scenario. 246 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: That's a great question. So again, under the current Florida law, 247 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 3: we have parental consent, which means a parent has to 248 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 3: give their child permission to get an abortion. There's a 249 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: lot of confusion about this because it does say in 250 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: here in the summary, especially, it says it doesn't impact 251 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:34,439 Speaker 3: the legislature's ability to require notification to a parent or 252 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 3: guardian before minor has an abortion. But notification and consent 253 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 3: are not the same thing. So, just to be crystal clear, 254 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 3: if a fourteen year old goes to the abortion clinic 255 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: and the parents get wind of it and they want 256 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 3: to stop their daughter from having an abortion, they can't 257 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 3: because they're not required to give consent, only notification. And 258 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 3: since we read in the plain text of this that 259 00:13:55,559 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 3: you cannot have anything delay an abortion, that notification can 260 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:05,240 Speaker 3: come after the abortion has been performed. I like to 261 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 3: make this analogy right because people still kid confuse between 262 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 3: consent and notification. If a carjacker comes up to you 263 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 3: in the parking lot, rips the keys out of your 264 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 3: hand and says I'm taking your car, you've been notified, 265 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,760 Speaker 3: but you certainly haven't given consent. That's what's going to 266 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 3: happen here because parental consent is no longer going to 267 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: be the law of the land in Florida. And to 268 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 3: just to help you understand, in Florida, a miner can't 269 00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: get a tattoo under the age of sixteen for any 270 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: reason other than targeted radiation therapy for cancer. So if 271 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 3: you're a pairent can go into the tattoo parlor with 272 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: the fifteen year old and say, hey, I want my 273 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,480 Speaker 3: fifteen year old take get a tattoo, Legally the tattoo 274 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,920 Speaker 3: artist has to say nope, can't do it. Well, here 275 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 3: a miner will be able to go into an abortion 276 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: clinic without their parents and have an abortion against their parents. 277 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: Will How did an amendment for get on the ballot? 278 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: You know, it's called a citizen lead initiative, which is 279 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 3: hilariou misnomers. So there's two ways. Well, there's actually a 280 00:15:03,840 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 3: couple of ways for amendments to Florida's Constitution to get 281 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,760 Speaker 3: on the ballot. So one of them is that every 282 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: twenty years they have a special Constitutional Committee meet. They 283 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 3: can recommend things to go on the ballot. The legislature 284 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: can sponsor it, or it can be a citizen led initiative. 285 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 3: A citizen led initiative would be when a million Floridians 286 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: all sign a petition to get something on the ballot. 287 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: And so you can be like, wow, how patriotic. It's 288 00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 3: citizen led. Yes, but that's not actually what happened. What 289 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 3: actually happened is big out of state money people like 290 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,800 Speaker 3: playing parenthood, the ACLU, labor unions, George Soros, you know 291 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: the list of the usual suspects. They gather together about 292 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 3: twenty million dollars. They paid signature collectors to go out 293 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 3: and gather signatures from Florida voters. So it's nice that 294 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 3: it's a citizen led initiative, but it's actually led by 295 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,160 Speaker 3: big abortion money, in big liberal money. So they collected 296 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 3: those million signatures, they present them to the State of Florida. 297 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 3: They were supposed to be validated. Recently, about thirty seven 298 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 3: thousand of them were invalidated, which is no big surprise 299 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 3: when you're paying paid collectors to do those kinds of things. 300 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: After it gets on the after you get the number 301 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 3: of signatures that you need, it's got to go through 302 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,840 Speaker 3: a judicial review by the Florida Supreme Court, and again 303 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 3: the Florida Supreme Court really dropped the ball here because 304 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 3: they're supposed to make sure that the language is clear, 305 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 3: and they ruled that those language was clear. But how 306 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 3: can it be clear if you don't even define what 307 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 3: an abortion is? And there was one of the justices 308 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 3: and he was refuting something that Florida'storney general said Florida. 309 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 3: Florida's Attorney general argued that this amendment is a wolf 310 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 3: dressed in sheep's clothing. And he said, I disagree. This 311 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 3: is a wolf dressed as a wolf. So, in other words, 312 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 3: it should be obvious how bad this is. But unless 313 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: someone really clearly explains it to you, it's not obvious 314 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:57,080 Speaker 3: to most people how damaging this amendment can be to Florida, 315 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: to Florida's women, it to little girls in Florida. 316 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:04,639 Speaker 1: How much advertising, how much of pro abortion groups spent 317 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 1: on advertising here in Florida telling people to vote yes. 318 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:10,719 Speaker 3: We can go on the Department of Elections website and 319 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 3: you can see they have a group. It's called the 320 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:15,880 Speaker 3: Amendment So I'm sorry, it's a group. It's called Floridians 321 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 3: Against it's called Floridaans for Freedom. Sorry. You can see 322 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 3: exactly how much they've raised. They've raised over fifty million dollars. 323 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: They spent out half of that getting it onto the ballot, 324 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 3: and now they've got about twenty four million dollars last 325 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: time I checked that they can use for advertising supporting this. 326 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: That's just the money that we know about, because there 327 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 3: could be other five to one c fours and other 328 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 3: kind of dark money agencies spending on this. It's all told, 329 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 3: we expect them to spend about fifty million to get 330 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 3: this on the ballot. And you may wonder why they're 331 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 3: spending so much, Well, yes, they have some kind of 332 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,840 Speaker 3: They definitely have some kind of dark agenda. You know, 333 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,879 Speaker 3: I don't know why abortion is so important to people 334 00:17:54,920 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 3: on the left. But also abortionists made approximately sixty two 335 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 3: million dollars last year in Florida, so this is just 336 00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: an investment in their future earnings. So if they can 337 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 3: recapture that sixty two million and get tons of money 338 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 3: from women coming across the state minds to have abortions, 339 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 3: then it's just a simple investment for them. 340 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: What's also an effort up for the left to drive 341 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: people to go vote in November, which is sad that 342 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: abortion is such a mobilizing. 343 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 2: Issue, but you know. 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Are there similar ballot measures where I know 368 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: there are similar ballot measures in states across the country? 369 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: Sort of you know, what do we know about that? 370 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:11,640 Speaker 1: And how similar are they to amendment? 371 00:20:11,720 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 3: For you know, there does seem to be a playbook, 372 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 3: And yes there are several. I don't want to speak 373 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:21,119 Speaker 3: and tell you which states because they passed in seven 374 00:20:21,160 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 3: states already. And that's the real tragedy to me is 375 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 3: that abortion has been on the ballot in seven states 376 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: and it's passed all seven times. And so I look 377 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: at this amendment and I hear this a law and 378 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 3: this is true. They say, oh, this is so deceptive. 379 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: It is deceptive. It's written to be confusing. They chose 380 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 3: a name, you know, Floridians Protecting Freedom that would resonate 381 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 3: with certain kinds of conservatives. But the real issue is here, 382 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 3: Florida is not as pro life as we'd like it 383 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 3: like to think that it is, because if Floridians were 384 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: truly pro life, they would read that very first line 385 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 3: that says no law shall prohibit penalized delay or restrict abortion, 386 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:00,000 Speaker 3: and they would say, no, I'm not going to vote 387 00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 3: yes on this. I'm gonna vote no one for all 388 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 3: the way. But secretly, we're just not as pro life 389 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,119 Speaker 3: as we need to be, and that's why we're in 390 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 3: danger of this passing well. 391 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: And you look at you know, even in the instance 392 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: of you know, Ray Blaffe of the Mother Incess, that's 393 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: you know, less than one percent of abortions. You know, 394 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 1: almost all of abortions are an elective decision. Yeah, that 395 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:27,840 Speaker 1: gets misconstrued a lot in the media as well. 396 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:31,160 Speaker 3: Oh for sure, because it's a super convenient talking point. 397 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,360 Speaker 3: So there's an agency in Florida, and Florida is one 398 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,199 Speaker 3: of the few remaining states that requires abortion providers to 399 00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 3: be licensed and that abortions be tracked. But there's something 400 00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: that's called the Florida Agency for Healthcare Administration, and they 401 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 3: have abortions by age, by county, and by reason, and 402 00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: so last year in Florida. There were eighty four thousand 403 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 3: and fifty two abortions, Yanna of them, we're self reported 404 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 3: as being for rape, seven eleven for incest, two for 405 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 3: human trafficking. Right, so you add those up and divided 406 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 3: by eighty four thousand, it's not just less than one percent, 407 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:15,120 Speaker 3: it's far less than one percent. And so you know 408 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:19,800 Speaker 3: those kinds of exceptions. People think that it's so common, 409 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 3: But here we go. It was less than one hundred 410 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 3: and thirty abortions for those reasons in the state of Florida. 411 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 3: And yet that's the boogeyman that they worry people with. 412 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 3: And I have to say, quite frankly, why are we 413 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 3: outlawing abortion at all, other than the fact that it's 414 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 3: wrong to take the life of an innocent child. And 415 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: so it doesn't matter how the child was conceived. If 416 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 3: it's wrong to take their life, then it's wrong to 417 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 3: take their life. 418 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:44,960 Speaker 2: I agree. 419 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: You broke up for a second there, so you said 420 00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: it was less than I just want to make sure 421 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:49,960 Speaker 1: that this is clear for the audience. So it was 422 00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: less than was it one hundred and thirty for rape, 423 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: life of the mother and incest? 424 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 2: Or can you get that number? One more time, just 425 00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 2: so we're clear. 426 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, this is last year, right, so I'm gonna just 427 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: add it up. I'm going to add it up right 428 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:04,280 Speaker 3: here while we're talking. So there were eleven for incest, 429 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,360 Speaker 3: there were one hundred and seven for rape, and there 430 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:11,640 Speaker 3: were two and these are again reported abortions. There were 431 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: two for human trafficking. So it was one hundred and twenty. 432 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 3: So if we were to divide that by the number 433 00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:19,719 Speaker 3: of abortions, which was eighty four thousand and fifty two, 434 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:21,919 Speaker 3: and we know that because abortions are tracked in Florida, 435 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: it's all right, So and then I'm a multiply it 436 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 3: by one hundred so that we can get the percentage. 437 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: It's point one four percent of abortions in Florida last year. 438 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,480 Speaker 3: We're for incest, rape, for human trafficking point one. 439 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,879 Speaker 1: Four percent, which just goes to show you, which you know, 440 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:41,919 Speaker 1: obviously my you know, my heart goes out to anyone 441 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: who's you know, been raped or has to face incest 442 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: or what have you. But it just goes to show 443 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 1: you what lies we're told in regards to abortions. I 444 00:23:54,119 --> 00:23:56,760 Speaker 1: guess one thing I'll never understand is you know you've 445 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: got something like thirty eight states that have fetal homicide loss, 446 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 1: including in the state of California. And I guess what 447 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: I'll never understand is why it's considered murder to kill 448 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: an unborn baby and a mother's womb, But then if 449 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: the mother chooses herself to kill the baby, it's not murder. 450 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, that's just the intellectual inconsistency that goes 451 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 3: into being you know what we used to term a 452 00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: pro choice person, right, it's the decision that determines the 453 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: humanity of the unborn. And I'm with you. I have 454 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:33,439 Speaker 3: huge sympathy for victims of rape or incest. I have 455 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,600 Speaker 3: huge sympathy for anyone who's pregnant and doesn't want to be. 456 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:40,400 Speaker 3: But that's why there are literally thousands of pregnancy centers 457 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: across the country who operate for free, who offer free 458 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 3: services to women in crisis. We want to do something 459 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 3: to help these women. We just don't think that taking 460 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 3: the life of the child is the right course of action. No. 461 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: No, I've become much further to write on this as 462 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,600 Speaker 1: I've gotten older, and I've also just seen friends, you know, 463 00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: struggle with fertility, and you just sort of realize just 464 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: a gift to this to be able to get pregnant 465 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: and have a child. How did you get involved in 466 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: all this? How did you get involved in this fight 467 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 1: in Florida? 468 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 3: Well, I've run a pregnancy clinic in Florida for the 469 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 3: past eight years, and when it's got on the bell 470 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 3: in April, I was surprised because the language is so deceptive. 471 00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: I thought for sure the Supreme Court wouldn't allow it 472 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: on the ballot, at least not as it's currently worded. 473 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 3: And so one of my good friends said to me, Hey, 474 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,800 Speaker 3: who do I write a check to to help defeat 475 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,479 Speaker 3: Amendment number four? And I did a bunch of research 476 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 3: and I didn't have any good answers. At the time, 477 00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 3: none of the political committees had formed yet. And so 478 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 3: with his help and the encouragement of others, I formed 479 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 3: my own political committee. This is not something I ever 480 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 3: envisioned myself doing. I'm not like a political person. But 481 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 3: we formed keep Florida Pro Life, which you could find 482 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,760 Speaker 3: it keep Florida ProLife dot org. And we're raising money 483 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 3: to defeat this amendment, and we are doing it in 484 00:25:57,400 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 3: a particular way. We have very sophistic dedicated micro targeted 485 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,200 Speaker 3: ads that we can push the people on the right 486 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 3: telling them why they should vote no on four. It's 487 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:10,239 Speaker 3: a moderate's telling them why they should vote know on four. Well, 488 00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 3: I don't want to get too boring or esoteric, so 489 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:14,879 Speaker 3: feel free to cut me off. But the great thing 490 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 3: about this kind of advertising is different things resonate with 491 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: different people. So if you have a fourteen year old 492 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 3: daughter at home and you're a moderate and I let 493 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 3: you know that Amendment number four is going to remove 494 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 3: your printal rights, that makes you a lot more likely 495 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: to vote know on For if you're a hardcore conservative 496 00:26:31,359 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 3: and you've just ever even heard of Amendment number four 497 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 3: and I tell you, hey, this is going to allow 498 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 3: abortion through all forty weeks of pregnancy, vote no on four. 499 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:42,960 Speaker 3: It makes you a lot more likely to vote know 500 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 3: on four. So our ad money goes a lot farther 501 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:47,879 Speaker 3: by pushing the right ads to the right people. 502 00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: I guess what would you tell people, because you know 503 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,240 Speaker 1: a lot of Americans are in the middle right, Like 504 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: they look at the six weeks and like, oh man, 505 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: that's too early if a woman doesn't know she's pregnant, 506 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,479 Speaker 1: you know, And they look at a late term abortion 507 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,359 Speaker 1: and say that that's evil, that's demonic. We shouldn't do 508 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: that to you, know, fully formed trial, the fully foreign 509 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: on more baby. So, I guess what would you say 510 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: to the Florida voter who is like I feel like 511 00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:17,159 Speaker 1: I'm kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place, 512 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: Like what do I do this November? 513 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:22,919 Speaker 3: Well, if we're talking about this November, I think the 514 00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 3: decision's actually pretty easy. I would ask myself, do you 515 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 3: care about saving babies and abortion? If you think life 516 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: begins a conception, obviously you're going to vote know on this. 517 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 3: If you think that doctors should be required to perform abortions, 518 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 3: then obviously you vote know on this. If you care 519 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:44,399 Speaker 3: about parental consent for minors, you vote no. It's pretty simple. 520 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: If you don't think painful this memberment abortion should be legal, 521 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 3: then you vote no. We have a legislative process for 522 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:55,120 Speaker 3: a reason, right, And so you know we've seen Florida's 523 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 3: abortion laws swing all over the place. We went from 524 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,680 Speaker 3: twenty four weeks to fifteen weeks to six weeks. That's 525 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 3: done through the will of the people, through the legislative process. 526 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,920 Speaker 3: And if Florida in general thinks that the law should 527 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 3: be a little bit more lax. I can pretty much 528 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 3: guarantee you they'll start voting for more pro choice candidates 529 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,600 Speaker 3: and we'll see this legislation get changed. The problem is 530 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 3: when you bring in the hammer of a constitutional amendment 531 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 3: and you say, hey, six weeks, that's too radical. Oh, 532 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 3: I know, let's make it through all forty weeks and 533 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 3: anyone can do an abortion. That doesn't really give Florida 534 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 3: voters a true choice. So if you want a true choice, 535 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:35,360 Speaker 3: I would just tell you vote no on this, let 536 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,880 Speaker 3: them try again with a more moderate amendment, or just 537 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 3: trust the legislative process and vote for people who represent 538 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 3: your values in the Florida legislature. 539 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,360 Speaker 1: And real quick before we go, where can people learn 540 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: more about amendment for Where can they donate? 541 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 2: Where can they contribute? 542 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 3: I would love for you to visit my website keep 543 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:59,680 Speaker 3: floridaprolife dot org. We have all kinds of talking points 544 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: there that will help you understand. You can make a 545 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 3: donation there. There's another website you can go to which 546 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 3: is called Read Between Thelies dot org. It has more 547 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,479 Speaker 3: information about it. It talks a little bit about parental consent. 548 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 3: If you want to send your more moderate friends somewhere. 549 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 3: Send them to Read Between the Lies dot org. If 550 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 3: you have, you know hardcore pro life conservative friends, send 551 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:23,959 Speaker 3: them to keep Florida ProLife dot org and they can 552 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 3: make a donation there as well. And I just want 553 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,320 Speaker 3: you to know that if you do decide to make 554 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 3: a donation to the campaign, your money's going to be 555 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 3: well spent. We are a legitimate political committee and I'm 556 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: not taking a dime as the person running this committee. 557 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:41,520 Speaker 3: I'm only doing this because I care about babies, and 558 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: I care about women, and I care about miners. 559 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 1: Bohaman, thank you so much for coming on the show. 560 00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 1: I appreciate you making the time, and you know, appreciate 561 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: you and what you're doing here in Florida. 562 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,840 Speaker 3: Well, Lisa, thank you so much for having me. And man, 563 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:57,720 Speaker 3: what you're doing is amazing. So keep up the good work. 564 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: That was Bohamon with First Care for Life and also 565 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: with read Between thewis dot org breaking down a moment 566 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 1: for what we need to know as Floridians, and also 567 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: just putting everyone on alert. Make sure you're paying attention 568 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 1: to what's on your ballot in your state this November. 569 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 1: I want to thank you guys at home for listening 570 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: every Monday and Thursday, but you can listen throughout the week. 571 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Or to thank John Cassio and my producer for putting 572 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,320 Speaker 1: the show together until next time.