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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to lay Cake Is Live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, December third of the year of

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Speaker 2: our Laura in twenty twenty.

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Speaker 1: I gotta smile on my face. I'll tell you about

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Speaker 1: it in just a second.

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Speaker 2: It's disgusting what I am going to in the interest

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Speaker 2: to full disclosure to tell you.

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Speaker 1: What I'm smiling at.

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Speaker 2: We got week fourteen predictions tonight. We did a lot

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Speaker 2: of them already Tuesday night. So if you want the

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Speaker 2: long form, who do we do, Colin? We did Bama

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Speaker 2: lsu Mercifully, we did BAM LSU A and m Auburn.

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Speaker 2: Those are already available on the twenty four seven Sports

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Speaker 2: YouTube channel, so you can check those out in individual

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Speaker 2: form after the show. Of course, we humbly, but we

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Speaker 2: plead with you to just stay tuned until the show's over.

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Speaker 1: We've got the.

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Speaker 2: Latest out of Texas. We've got the latest out of

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Speaker 2: South Carolina. There's a coaching search going on. There are

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Speaker 2: rumors that a coaching search is eminent. I don't necessarily

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Speaker 2: know how sure to be about that. We're going to

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Speaker 2: into that though, don't worry. And in the big ten

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Speaker 2: when we last left you on Tuesday night, there's a

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Speaker 2: lot of speculation, just wild in some cases baseless speculation

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Speaker 2: about what could happen?

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Speaker 1: Is Ohio State going to get a game in?

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Speaker 2: Is Ohio State going to get screwed by someone running

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Speaker 2: and hiding from them? Not said on this program, mind you,

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Speaker 2: but said elsewhere. And so we were left with just

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Speaker 2: wondering what could happen here? Is Ohio State going to

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Speaker 2: be done in by Big ten protocols and bylaws that

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Speaker 2: were written like three or four months ago? Well maybe

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Speaker 2: maybe not. Got some feelings on that tonight. Also, the

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Speaker 2: Robin Noodle Express chugging along. I lied to you the

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Speaker 2: other night when I told you that we were only

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Speaker 2: fifty eight and a half percent against the spread.

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Speaker 1: That was a lie.

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Speaker 2: We are sixty percent against the spread. Here's the situation.

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Speaker 2: My living room looks like that of a serial killer.

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Speaker 2: So at home, I have an actual grease board that's

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Speaker 2: in my apartment and it has our record week by week.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes I forget to put the updated record, and so

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Speaker 2: we went four and two last week and we upped

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Speaker 2: our percentage to sixty percent. Well, I hadn't put it

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Speaker 2: on there yet, and so I now have that on

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Speaker 2: my serial killer grease board in my apartment and so

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Speaker 2: now we're up to date on that. Also, I want

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Speaker 2: You guys are always great with your feedback. A lot

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Speaker 2: And also I just want to tell you because you

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Speaker 2: don't find out otherwise a lot of people have taken notice,

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Speaker 2: that we've gotten is because of you guys. So I

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Speaker 2: appreciate that. Anytime we get good feedback, I just want

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Speaker 1: So let's dive into the show tonight.

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Speaker 2: Go. We've got a lot to get to. I am

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Speaker 2: going to get to predictions in just a second. We're

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Speaker 2: going to kind of bounce all over the place in

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Speaker 2: tonight's show. But I wanted to start with what you've

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Speaker 2: been talking about all day. And I just saw someone ask, okay,

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Speaker 2: so let me pause and let me tell you. A

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes ago, Colin and I we were doing soundcheck,

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Speaker 2: and I was telling you I was going to tell you.

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Speaker 1: Why I was smiling when we came on here.

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Speaker 2: So Colin and I we come in here about fifteen

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Speaker 2: you know, the earpiece right here, the IFB. I've got

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Speaker 1: When he needs to communicate with me, that's how we

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Speaker 2: Now. Sometimes when you've used the same IFB for quite

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Speaker 2: And I don't know if all of you are going

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Speaker 2: wax and earwax really builds up in the IFB, and

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Speaker 2: clogs and all of a sudden, I can't hear Colin anymore.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: As I told Colin, a normal person would well, first off,

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Speaker 2: wear multiple shirts on air. But since I don't do that,

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Speaker 2: you also got to understand the part b hearing that

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Speaker 1: So there is an alternative.

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Speaker 2: And the alternative is take that bad boy out of

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Speaker 2: it removes the ear. White doesn't take it out, It

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Speaker 2: So that's what I had to do moments before we

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Speaker 2: in the chat, I gave it to you. That's how

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Speaker 2: you clean your IFB out. You can use that at

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Speaker 2: work tomorrow or in class if you're still in college.

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Speaker 2: Feel free, all right, Big ten changes could be coming.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pause here. It's not necessary at the moment.

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Speaker 2: We're just doing contingencies tonight. We're just doing mere hypotheticals

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Speaker 2: because right now, the Ohio State Buckeyes are a twenty

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Speaker 2: Ryan Day will not be the head coach in that game.

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Speaker 2: He's still in quarantine. However, the bluck Eyes will go

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Speaker 2: We're not even going to break down the game tonight.

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Speaker 1: Where can I go back in time? Where's the data point?

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Speaker 2: And the data point, naturally for me, is in the

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Speaker 1: Go down in the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: The focus this whole time in the Big Ten, and

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Speaker 2: back our way into a playoff spot. Well, we spent

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Speaker 1: First off, those rules themselves were just.

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Speaker 2: Written a few months ago, very hastily, might I add,

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Speaker 2: we got to really get in depth and think about this.

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Speaker 2: Someone just said, all right, what's our rules going to be.

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Speaker 2: six games minimum. That sounds good, and we got a pencil,

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Speaker 2: And my feel as now we're getting closer to the

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Speaker 2: very very heavy favorite in the Big Ten to win

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Speaker 2: If the only thing that stands between Ohio State and

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Speaker 2: they made the protocol. They can change the protocol. So

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Speaker 2: what I'm telling you is if they don't get well,

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Speaker 2: they're probably gonna get this weekend's game. And if they

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Speaker 2: someone's telling them, Nope, can't Pasco, can't head to Indy.

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Speaker 1: You don't have enough games under your belt.

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Speaker 2: It's up to the chancellor's president's athletic directors to just say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: we kind of screwed that one up, and you guys

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Speaker 2: are by ten miles the best team in the league.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna let you go anyway. Now here's the question,

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Speaker 2: how does that make you feel?

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Speaker 1: Because I know how I.

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Speaker 2: Felt in fourth grade when Whitney got shoot right on

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Speaker 2: the end of the finals and she won. By the way,

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Speaker 2: she was the smartest kid in school, so she won.

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Speaker 2: But how does that make you feel? Because I understand

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Speaker 2: either way you made me mad about that. Well, the

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Speaker 2: rules got changed at the last minute for the Golden Calf. Here, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I understand all that sentiment, but I got to tell you,

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Speaker 2: I'm kind of ready to accept its two reasons. Number one,

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Speaker 2: all standards and principles and consistency been thrown out the

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Speaker 1: And my whole point is if those.

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Speaker 2: This wouldn't be a conversation to begin with. They're clear

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Speaker 2: Are we really going to be the reason that that

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Speaker 1: So you got here are the paths.

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Speaker 1: That ends well. And at that point. If they lose,

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Speaker 2: This is our fault. This is our fault to begin with,

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Speaker 2: My point is I highly expect Ohio State to play

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Speaker 2: Florida is a seventeen and a half point favorite against Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: Two things two twenty twenty hard trends that have to

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Speaker 2: In Said's college football action, is number one Tennessee on

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Speaker 2: But I just don't think Tennessee defensively has any answer

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Speaker 1: Got a lot of confidence in that.

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Speaker 2: But for some reason, I keep coming back to Tennessee

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Speaker 2: That is certainly not me advising you to wager any

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Speaker 1: Virginia Tech game.

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Speaker 2: When the updated schedules came out, one thing, and one

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Speaker 1: Selfishly, I was kind of hoping to see that, and.

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Speaker 2: Five hundred and fifty six total yards of offense on

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Speaker 1: Our model likes Clemson heavily this week.

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Speaker 2: It's very simple for Brent Venables, defensive coordinator they're at Clemson,

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Speaker 1: Clemson is going to win this game.

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Speaker 2: I think they're gonna win it going away, and that

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Speaker 2: The thing about all these coaching changes is what's the market?

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Speaker 1: They're playing at TCU.

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Speaker 2: It's an early kickoff noon Eastern time, eleven local time

437
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Speaker 2: there on ESPN two Saturday. Oklahoma State is still alive.

438
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Speaker 2: I don't know how many of you realize this. They

439
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:55,480
Speaker 2: are still alive in the Big twelve title race. Like

440
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Speaker 2: they can still make it into that game. They need

441
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Speaker 2: some help. They can still make it into that game. Now,

442
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Speaker 2: before I dive into this, I don't know. I can't

443
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Speaker 2: remember where I saw this today. I mean it's public information.

444
00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:09,920
Speaker 2: It's sourcing is not critical on this. Gary Patterson and

445
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Speaker 2: Mike Gundy, who are the respective head coaches here of

446
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Speaker 2: TCU and Oklahoma State. In a world where we are

447
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Speaker 2: talking about coaching changes and hot seat rumors and whatnot,

448
00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:23,760
Speaker 2: do you realize the combined tenure of these head coaches

449
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Speaker 2: at their current outposts is thirty five years.

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Speaker 1: Gundhy has been.

451
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Speaker 2: At Oklahoma State since I want to say two thousand

452
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Speaker 2: and five, and Gary Patterson has been at Oklahoma or

453
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Speaker 2: at TCU rather since two.

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Speaker 1: Thousand, So this is a long time man.

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Speaker 2: Those are that by far the two longest tenured head

456
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Speaker 2: coaches in the Big Twelve, Chewba Hubbard. Last week for

457
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Speaker 2: Oklahoma State, was announced that he wasn't.

458
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Speaker 1: Going to play.

459
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Speaker 2: I think he opted out. Actually was an injury or

460
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Speaker 2: opt out. Either way, he wasn't in and there was

461
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Speaker 2: a lot of panic. We had Oklahoma State minus the points,

462
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Speaker 2: and I made sure to tweet out, no, this doesn't.

463
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Speaker 1: Us off our pick at all.

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Speaker 2: Of course, we have confidence in Desmond Jackson and he

465
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Speaker 2: validated that confidence. He ran for two hundred and thirty

466
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Speaker 2: five on thirty six carries. Now they rode him pretty

467
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Speaker 2: heavily obviously last week. That's like a Derrick Henry number.

468
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Speaker 2: Thirty six carries for two hundred and thirty five yards.

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Speaker 2: So what I didn't just do is compare Desmond Jackson

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Speaker 2: to Derrick Henry. What I did say is he's been

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Speaker 2: more than a serviceable replacement and I would expect to

472
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Speaker 2: see a lot more of him. Now here's the issue,

473
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Speaker 2: and here's why they really need to ride him. As

474
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Speaker 2: good as their offense has been, Oklahoma States, what they

475
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Speaker 2: were known for early in the year, defense has not

476
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Speaker 2: been there as of late. They've given up points, they've

477
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Speaker 2: given up yards and TCU will be more than happy

478
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Speaker 2: to cash in on that. So when you want to

479
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Speaker 2: talk about the importance of shaving some possessions off, you

480
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Speaker 2: run the ball and bleed some clock, shave some possessions

481
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Speaker 2: from TCU, and get yourself a win.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: Our model really leans heavily towards Oklahoma State. It's one

484
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Speaker 2: of our best bets of the week. I already handed

485
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Speaker 2: that out. We're going to take Oklahoma State to win.

486
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Speaker 2: We're going to take the Cowboys to cover anything under three. Actually,

487
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Speaker 2: the next game up, this is when I have very

488
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Speaker 2: very strong interest in potentially a vested interest before kickoff Saturday,

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Speaker 2: Indiana at Wisconsin. Wisconsin's a fourteen point favorite. It's a

490
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Speaker 2: mid afternoon kickoff. It's three thirty Eastern Saturday on ABC.

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Speaker 2: I get the sense a lot of people are very

492
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Speaker 2: drunk on two results. The first is it feels like a.

493
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Speaker 1: Long time ago. Now that long ago.

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Speaker 2: It was that opener I think it was a Friday

495
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Speaker 2: night opener for Wisconsin when they just boat raced Illinois

496
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Speaker 2: and then they did the exact same thing to I mean.

497
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Speaker 1: What used to be Michigan.

498
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Speaker 2: It was like a shell of Michigan and they just

499
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Speaker 2: went and they beat on it for three and a

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Speaker 2: half hours, and they were blowout wins, and it really

501
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Speaker 2: inflated a lot of people's sense of Wisconsin. And then

502
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Speaker 2: Northwestern held them to seven points and they turned the

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Speaker 2: ball over a ton and all of a sudden, they

504
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 2: look so disjointed now, the sorts and which team is

505
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Speaker 2: the real Wisconsin? Like that's what everyone was left asking.

506
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Speaker 2: And now their fourteen point favorites against Indiana.

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Speaker 1: And when I say that, I think a lot of.

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Speaker 2: You may think I'm unaware that Michael Pennix is out

509
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Speaker 2: for the year. That's the quarterback for Indiana. And I

510
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: am totally aware of that. I was just talking to

511
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Speaker 2: Bud Elliott today and I told him for the record.

512
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Speaker 2: He agreed, but I told him, man, is it just

513
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Speaker 2: me or has the market really over corrected for this

514
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Speaker 2: Penix injury.

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Speaker 1: He's a very good player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's certainly he's been the heart and soul

517
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Speaker 2: of their offense so far this year. But man, they

518
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Speaker 2: got a pretty talented backup quarterback there in Tuttle, a

519
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Speaker 2: former four star guy. I know a lot of people

520
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Speaker 2: in Indiana circles have talked about it all week.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that nationally.

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Speaker 2: It's been a big talking point, but we have made

523
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Speaker 2: We have a long history on this show of finding

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Speaker 2: teams whose quarterbacks are out for the year and then

525
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Speaker 2: betting on those teams the following week because the market

526
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Speaker 2: almost always overcorrects. No one in their right mind everyone

527
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Speaker 2: wants to put money on a team whose quarterback just

528
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Speaker 2: got knocked out for the year.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're probably gonna do it this week.

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Speaker 2: I'm certainly, with all due respect to Wisconsin, I'm certainly

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Speaker 2: taking the Badgers to win. I think the number is

532
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Speaker 2: way too inflated though, so we're gonna roll pretty confidently

533
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Speaker 2: with Indiana. Plus the two touchdowns wouldn't be surprised at

534
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Speaker 2: all if we end up putting this out as an

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Speaker 2: official play. So on a related note, you'll want to

536
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Speaker 2: follow me on Twitter for that at Late Kick Josh

537
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,359
Speaker 2: final game that got added about fifteen minutes ago BYU

538
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Speaker 2: is excuse.

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Speaker 1: Me, Brigham Young, I can't round that.

540
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:20,520
Speaker 2: Why so Brigham Young minus ten at Coastal Carolina.

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Speaker 1: Yes, friends, it's happening.

542
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Speaker 2: I don't know that the equipment truck has arrived yet,

543
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:28,240
Speaker 2: probably somewhere in Arkansas, but they're on their way. It's

544
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 2: a four to thirty kickoff ESPNU. Not a long breakdown

545
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Speaker 2: on this game. However, I'm starting to lean very heavily

546
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Speaker 2: towards the Cougars.

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Speaker 1: There they listen.

548
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Speaker 2: There are a lot of A level parts, A level

549
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 2: components to their game. They got an A level quarterback,

550
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Speaker 2: probably a future first round quarterback.

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Speaker 1: A lot of you have watched him already.

552
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Speaker 2: If you haven't watched him, I would encourage you take

553
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Speaker 2: some time four to thirty game here, Just carve out

554
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Speaker 2: some time watch a quarter quarter and a half, very

555
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Speaker 2: very talented pieces quarterback and otherwise on this team. Offensive line,

556
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 2: defensive line, they've both been phenomenal.

557
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Speaker 1: They got a dynamite run game.

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Speaker 2: There are just a lot of elements that are very

559
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Speaker 2: hard to stop about Brigham Young, and I don't necessarily know,

560
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Speaker 2: with all due respect to Jamie Chadwell and what he's

561
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 2: done there at Coastal, I don't necessarily know what's happening

562
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Speaker 2: in Myrtle Beach Saturday either.

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Speaker 1: So we're going to take Brigham Young to win. We're

564
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Speaker 1: also going to take be Blank you to cover at

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Speaker 1: the ten points.

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Speaker 2: And that concludes are added Week fourteen predictions. Looking forward

567
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Speaker 2: to this week, I mean We had a couple of

568
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Speaker 2: weeks ago people talking about how slow it was and

569
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Speaker 2: it ended up not being that way, but had that

570
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Speaker 2: sense like we got a really good slate here, got

571
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Speaker 2: really good slates coming up now coming up? Uh no,

572
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Speaker 2: not this weekend, well maybe this weekend. A side note,

573
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Speaker 2: I was just thinking out loud there coming up at

574
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Speaker 2: South Carolina. We still got a coaching search going on

575
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Speaker 2: at South Carolina now the very latest things change. Things

576
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Speaker 2: change a lot. That's why we continue to touch on

577
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Speaker 2: this every single show. When we last spoke together, I

578
00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,360
Speaker 2: was talking to you about and then you were kind

579
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Speaker 2: of talking back to me in the chat and DMS

580
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Speaker 2: about how you felt about Shane Beemer. Shane Beemer is

581
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Speaker 2: current tight Ends coach out of Oklahoma, and he's got

582
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Speaker 2: strong ties to the program, got a lot of folks

583
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Speaker 2: around the program that have been lobbying for him, very

584
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Speaker 2: supportive of him.

585
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Speaker 1: Former players, YadA YadA.

586
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Speaker 2: We touched on that the other night, and it was

587
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Speaker 2: thought and widely reported that he was the leader in

588
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Speaker 2: the clubhouse for this job. Now, the other night I

589
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: told you I wasn't one hundred percent sold on that sentiment.

590
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Speaker 1: He very well may have been perceived as the leader.

591
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Speaker 2: But I also told you I thought Billy Napier could

592
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Speaker 2: change that with one phone call, and I still believe

593
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Speaker 2: that now. The only difference is I think the public

594
00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: sentiment around this coaching search has sort of shifted more

595
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Speaker 2: towards what I was talking about the other night, and

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Speaker 2: I have followed it obviously, day by day. I've talked

597
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Speaker 2: to a lot of folks I know, listened to a

598
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Speaker 2: lot of folks who are very close to the South

599
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Speaker 2: Carolina beat.

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Speaker 1: I think the guys over at.

601
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Speaker 2: The Big Spur have continued to just blowout coverage of this.

602
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Speaker 2: I mean every whisper, every time someone changes their parking spot,

603
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Speaker 2: there is either an update from Tony over there, John

604
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Speaker 2: Whittll or Sherbert So, I mean, they got it all

605
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Speaker 2: covered from every angle, like what you hear sometimes, but

606
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: it's really good information over there.

607
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,199
Speaker 1: Now I've heard largely what they've heard today. There have

608
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Speaker 1: been updates they've posted over on the Big Spur throughout

609
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Speaker 1: the day. Billy Napier was never out of this. This

610
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Speaker 1: was never close to done. As far as I was concerned,

611
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Speaker 1: it was never close to done. But here's what has

612
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Speaker 1: been reported today.

613
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Speaker 2: And again I've talked to folks maybe that they've spoken with,

614
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Speaker 2: maybe that they haven't spoken with, who back up all this.

615
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Speaker 2: And by all this, I mean Billy Napier's second interview

616
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Speaker 2: for this job, first in person interview for this job

617
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Speaker 2: is going to come Saturday. Now they play app State

618
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Speaker 2: Friday night, so he will be free on Saturday. He's

619
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Speaker 2: also past COVID. You know, there was that little pesky

620
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Speaker 2: detail that well he had.

621
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Speaker 1: COVID and he was in quarantine. So those in person interviews.

622
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Speaker 2: Kind of hard to do when you can't be within

623
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Speaker 2: a certain radius of any human beings. They know what

624
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Speaker 2: he wants, He's told him what he needs. And let

625
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Speaker 2: me revisit a couple of the misnomers out there that

626
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Speaker 2: I saw just kind of floated around. Sometimes when you

627
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Speaker 2: hear that South Carolina can't meet so and so's demands,

628
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 2: what you automatically think is they want to get themselves

629
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 2: this much money, and then the school in this case

630
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: South Carolina is balking at that. And what that translates

631
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:12,359
Speaker 2: to a lot of times is he wants to be

632
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 2: paid this and they want to pay him that. Sometimes

633
00:27:14,600 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 2: that's the case, other times that's not the case. More oftentimes,

634
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 2: and I think what the situation here is is he's

635
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,480
Speaker 2: wanting a total resource pool which extends well beyond just

636
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 2: how much money's going into his pocket that maybe hasn't

637
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: been signed off on yet, and that may mean everything

638
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:35,160
Speaker 2: from certain very very specific facility updates that he wants,

639
00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 2: and I'm very speculative on that.

640
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,679
Speaker 1: That's not anything I've heard, but it could be.

641
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 2: As an example that it could be that he wants

642
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 2: a certain level of support staff. Maybe he wants thirteen

643
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 2: guys here and they'll only agree to eight.

644
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: It's those sorts of very very fine.

645
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: Detail oriented points that if you can't get them all

646
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 2: signed off on, maybe you're willing to bend, maybe you're not.

647
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,399
Speaker 2: Maybe you want a certain guarantee for your assistant coaches.

648
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: Maybe you want this much money for your defense coordinator,

649
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 2: and they'll only give you that much money. It's that

650
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 2: sort of deal, and so there has been no agreement,

651
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,120
Speaker 2: or there's been no slamming of the door anyway. That

652
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,760
Speaker 2: is what negotiation is all about. Maybe you get yourself

653
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,960
Speaker 2: in a fortuitous enough position where you can do it

654
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 2: in your professional life one day, well you only get

655
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Speaker 2: a few of them, even in this profession. I know

656
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,040
Speaker 2: this is bigger money in all likelihood than you and

657
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 2: I get to talk about. But you're still only getting

658
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 2: to be in that arena a few times. And like

659
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 2: I said the other night, remember what you're going to

660
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: ask the head coach of South Carolina to do. You're

661
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,400
Speaker 2: going to hopefully ask him to get you in competition

662
00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,720
Speaker 2: with Georgia or Florida. Maybe not year in, year out,

663
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: but be competitive, and then every couple of years we

664
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 2: want to be able to strike. And so ask yourself,

665
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 2: what kind of resources do you need to do that?

666
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 2: When's the last time Kirby Smart got told no on

667
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: a resource request? When's the last time Dan Mullen got

668
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:53,240
Speaker 2: told no, we don't We're not really that into it here,

669
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 2: Jeremy Pruett getting told that, no, he's not. And so

670
00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 2: you're already viewed as being at a somewhat historical disadvantage

671
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: to those teams. If you're a competitor, you don't care

672
00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: about history, like I said, But if you're a competitor,

673
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: you're also smart enough to understand. Hopefully, I got to

674
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: have all my yeses, I got to have all my

675
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: boxes checked, or else I'm going to come in here

676
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 2: and I'm going to go five hundred and look you

677
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,640
Speaker 2: in the eye and say, what did you expect? You know,

678
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 2: that's why I don't think anyone should ever be fired

679
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: from Vanderbilt. You can look at the zero win column

680
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 2: all you want to. I can look the fact that

681
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 2: there are high schools in Texas and have better facilities

682
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: than they do, and yet you're asking them, Hey, got

683
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 2: Georgia coming in here Saturday, Like, go get them? And

684
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,280
Speaker 2: you got Florida a couple of weeks. Tennessee's going to

685
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 2: come in here, got South Carolina later. You know, they

686
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: dwarf you in resource, but just get some wins. Anyway,

687
00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,719
Speaker 2: that's ridiculous. Now we're talking about night and day difference

688
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,479
Speaker 2: between Carolina and Vanderbilt. But the point is, if I'm

689
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: a head coach and I'm in demand, a lot of

690
00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: folks value me, I'm going to get yes to every box,

691
00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:51,240
Speaker 2: or especially if I'm comfortable where I'm at or I'm

692
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 2: not dying to crawl over broken glass to leave.

693
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 1: Now, I want to ask this as well.

694
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 2: Because I've talked to some people and there's a feeling

695
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 2: out there that, oh, we shouldn't pay that much. You know,

696
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: the hypothetical figures that are being floated out there about

697
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: what it would take to get Billy Napier to South Carolina.

698
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: Oh we can't, we can't go that far.

699
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: Let me ask you something, Where did this sudden fiscal

700
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,840
Speaker 2: hesitancy come from in Columbia? And I want you to

701
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 2: bear in mind what you just committed to to buy

702
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 2: out a coach.

703
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: You're about to pay.

704
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: A guy darn near a quarter million dollars a month

705
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,480
Speaker 2: for the next four years to not coach your team.

706
00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 1: That's will must champ.

707
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: What is an added couple of million dollars a year

708
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: at this point, Like, that's what I'm not grasping. And

709
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,320
Speaker 2: I also want you to understand this, as I told you,

710
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: I was watching Moneyball the other night, the Oakland a story. Friends,

711
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 2: that's baseball. No one's moneyballing their way to an SEC championship.

712
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 2: No one is cutting corners financially and still get into Atlanta.

713
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: You can't do it. This is a different world. College

714
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 2: football is a different world. To compete at any kind

715
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:00,600
Speaker 2: of elite status, you got to pay elite level money.

716
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: That's just what it's going to be.

717
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 2: And if you find yourself having thinking you've struck a

718
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,240
Speaker 2: deal on the front end. I want to ask you this.

719
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: Don't think about twenty twenty, you're twenty twenty one. Think

720
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 2: about twenty twenty three. I tried to pose this the

721
00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: other night in pure hypothetical terms. You know, if it's

722
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, okay, the guy you hired's had a

723
00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 2: couple of years to try and overturn the roster. He's

724
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 2: got his thumbprint on the program. It reflects his identity

725
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: at that point. And it's mid fourth quarter and you're

726
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 2: playing Georgia and it's twenty four to twenty three, and

727
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: you're within one, and you're driving trying to get field

728
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 2: goal arranged to hopefully kick a game winner as time

729
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 2: expires with a trip to Atlanta on the line. If

730
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 2: that is the case, it means you've hired the right guy.

731
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,600
Speaker 2: And if you've hired the right guy, is anyone sitting

732
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 2: around in that stadium with two minutes twenty seconds left,

733
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:48,840
Speaker 2: two minutes left, one forty five, forty four, forty three.

734
00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,160
Speaker 2: You know, George, I know we're about to win this

735
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 2: thing or be in a really good position too, But man,

736
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: we overpaid for this guy. Tell you that extra three

737
00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: million dollars a year that this coaching staff's costing us.

738
00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: I mean, I know we're gonna beat Georgia here, but

739
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,640
Speaker 2: is it really worth it. The next time someone has

740
00:32:04,680 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 2: that conversation will be the first time someone ever has

741
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: that conversation. If he's the guy, if he is the

742
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 2: best for South Carolina, pay him what he wants, give

743
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 2: him what he needs resource wise, and then get out

744
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 2: of the way and let him run the program. So,

745
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 2: I mean, the Shane Beemer talk is every bit as

746
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,560
Speaker 2: much there now as it was forty eight hours ago.

747
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 1: I just I really wonder how.

748
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 2: This thing's going to go this weekend with the napier

749
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: in person interview, because you know, I get the perception

750
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 2: that Shane Beemer knows how this game works, the game,

751
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: I mean the hiring game, that the coaching search game.

752
00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: I'm not knocking him. He's doing what I would do.

753
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,720
Speaker 2: I get in touch with every contact I have. I

754
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 2: get in touch with every person at that university, every

755
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 2: former player I have any kind of relationship with, and

756
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 2: I'd grease every wheel I possibly can. Ed Orgeron did

757
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 2: it to ultimately get himself hired at LSU. You could

758
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 2: easily play your way into landing an SEC or a powerfile.

759
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 2: I've head coaching job by doing that, and that's independent

760
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: of whether he's qualified or not. I am making no

761
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: judgment on that. I'm not qualified to make that judgment.

762
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: Here's what I do think.

763
00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: I know.

764
00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 2: Though I don't know how good Napier is in an

765
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 2: interview setting, like I don't know how many knee slapping

766
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 2: anecdotal lass he'll draw out of you, I think he

767
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 2: knows how to win, and I think he knows how

768
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: to build a program.

769
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: And it's my humble.

770
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 2: Opinion here in Nashville, Tennessee, removed from the situation that

771
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: he probably gives you the best chance to win long term.

772
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: So that's what I'm pulling forward to see.

773
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 2: And having said that, I obviously have really no interest

774
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: other than just a curious observer.

775
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:36,240
Speaker 1: What about Texas?

776
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 2: Texas has no job opening right now, and yet there

777
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 2: are rumors by the second coming out of Austin about

778
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 2: the Texas coaching maybe opening maybe search Once upon a time,

779
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 2: and this was kind of easy to do back once

780
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 2: upon a time, Once upon.

781
00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: A time, when it was coaching search season.

782
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,880
Speaker 2: All you had to do was pull up flight aware

783
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 2: dot com and you had to know the university planes

784
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:01,360
Speaker 2: tail number.

785
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,600
Speaker 1: Of course oops among us doesn't.

786
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 2: And you could watch tail numbers and you could just

787
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: track real time where a plane from Austin, Texas or

788
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 2: Tuscaloos or Gainesville or Auburn was taken off to and

789
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 2: where it was landing. And you know, like back in

790
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 2: the day in nine when you saw a plane leave Auburn,

791
00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 2: Alabama and land in ames Iowa, Well, chances are their

792
00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 2: interviewing Gene hiz it.

793
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,319
Speaker 1: Now we need a leader, not a loser at five

794
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:26,440
Speaker 1: and nineteen is not what we need.

795
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, that all resulted because someone at tracked a plane

796
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 2: and knew that the Auburn brain trust was coming back

797
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 2: and they could just go confront them at the airport.

798
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,720
Speaker 1: Those were fun times. Those were simpler times.

799
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 2: Then the FAA got involved and they allowed people to

800
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 2: block their tail numbers. And I'm all for privacy, but listen,

801
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,439
Speaker 2: we got a job to do too. And so here's

802
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 2: what happens. Instead of hiding in bushes at the airport

803
00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,759
Speaker 2: and just tracking tail numbers like normal people, now you're

804
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: forced to do what our fine friends out in Austin,

805
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 2: Texas found themselves doing over the past forty eight hours.

806
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: If you don't know about this. You're gonna think I'm

807
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 2: kidding you, but I'm not. These folks want Urban Meyer.

808
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 2: I don't blame them for that, But these folks took

809
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 2: the added fourteen steps of seeing Urban Meyer do a

810
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 2: live TV hit for someone I can't even remember what

811
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,479
Speaker 2: it was about. And someone somewhere along the way looked

812
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 2: at the hotel room that urban Meyer was in and said,

813
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 2: wait a minute, that looks irally similar to a hotel

814
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,439
Speaker 2: that I know near the Austin area. And so let's

815
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: pull up pictures from Google image of that hotel and

816
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: let's compare them to what Urban's background looks like.

817
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 1: Here.

818
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 2: Oh no, the shades look a little bit similar. Let's

819
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 2: look at the roofing pattern. What about the wallpaper? Is

820
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 2: this lighting really doing us any favors? That's what was

821
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: happening yesterday. I'm not kidding with you. Folks thought that

822
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 2: they had cracked the nut figuring out Urban Meyer was

823
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,799
Speaker 2: in Austin because of Google images. Compared to a live

824
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 2: TV feed of the hotel room he was in, it

825
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 2: was a lot easier to just let these people track

826
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 2: tail numbers. So thank you, you got what you asked for.

827
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,840
Speaker 2: This isn't a coaching search. Right now, I want to

828
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: remind you of something A couple of things. Actually, this

829
00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 2: is not a coaching search. Number one in technical terms,

830
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 2: because Texas has a head coach. It's also not a

831
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 2: coaching search in more realistic terms, because you're waiting.

832
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,919
Speaker 1: You're like sitting in a waiting room.

833
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,400
Speaker 2: Now, if urban Meyer walks out or walks in, however

834
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:12,719
Speaker 2: you want to phrase that, and says, Nope, I'm not

835
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 2: your guy, then maybe it becomes a coaching search. How

836
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: long are we gonna have to sit here and wait?

837
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 2: How long are they going to have to wait before

838
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 2: they hear a definitive answer from urban Meyer. You always

839
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:27,240
Speaker 2: hear either this weekend or in the next forty eight hours,

840
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 2: you will hear that those phrases are a dime a

841
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 2: dozen in coaching searches. And really, if you were to

842
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:36,399
Speaker 2: ever go back and chart how accurate the next forty

843
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 2: eight hours or this weekend. By the end of this weekend,

844
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: if you were to go back and chart, how accurate

845
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 2: that is not very often? So I don't doubt that

846
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: you'll eventually know something from him soon. But my question

847
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: is this, and I'm not convinced of this. I've asked

848
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,360
Speaker 2: some Texas folks. I am not convinced one way or

849
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: the other. How close is Texas to being on board

850
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: with making a coaching change.

851
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: Regardless of whether it's Urban Meyer.

852
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 2: I was overlooking at the Horns twenty four seven board

853
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 2: today and I think Taylor est has kind of posed

854
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 2: this question, like, if it's not Urban Meyer, who will

855
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 2: it be? And my question to add on to that is,

856
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,799
Speaker 2: if it's not Urban Meyer, is it anyone at all?

857
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 1: Like, is there's still a path where?

858
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,759
Speaker 2: You know, like Herman wins against Kansas State Saturday and

859
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: wins against Kansas games that I don't think should be

860
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 2: consequential at all.

861
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:24,880
Speaker 1: For the record, but maybe some people do.

862
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: And if you get to know from Meyer and he

863
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 2: ends the season having won the last two games, do

864
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: they just renew him or let him stay for another year?

865
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:33,440
Speaker 1: Like?

866
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: Who could that happen? Some of you are adamant No,

867
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 2: like the decision has been made. They're ready to cut

868
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 2: the cord regardless. You know the principle we adhere to

869
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 2: on this show, if you're going to make a move,

870
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 2: have a definitive upgrade out there. How many if Texas

871
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 2: is of that same mentality, how many names outside of

872
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 2: Urban Meyer do they see out there that are realistic

873
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 2: to get that they view as definitive upgrades. Some names

874
00:37:57,120 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: that you're going to start hearing, some of them are

875
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,359
Speaker 2: very interesting. A lot of them you're gonna shake your

876
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:04,799
Speaker 2: head at as if to say, there's no way that's happening. Well,

877
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,960
Speaker 2: we'll see. I think if it's a no from Urban Meyer,

878
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 2: you're gonna see them make a serious run at Dan

879
00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 2: Mullen at Florida. I would always make a run at

880
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 2: Brian Kelly. I've said that since the beginning of time.

881
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 2: You guys can laugh at it or not. I think

882
00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: very highly of Brian Kelly. I think he'd knock it

883
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,359
Speaker 2: out of the park at any major Southern school. He's

884
00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 2: always felt like a coach that belongs at a Southern outpost.

885
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,759
Speaker 2: I know this is doing me no favors. At Notre Dame,

886
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 2: for the record, probably wouldn't say yes. So I'm just saying,

887
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 2: if I ran one of these programs, I admire your

888
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 2: guys so much, I would come after him. That's what

889
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Mario Christaval, is he in the mix? There

890
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:43,239
Speaker 2: is Luke Fickele in the mix? Is that a guy

891
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: who has looked at as the next star or is

892
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 2: that a guy who has looked at as the next

893
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 2: Tom Herman? Because you know Herman was thought of very

894
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 2: highly when he was at Houston. He had fallen off

895
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 2: that old Urban Meyer coaching tree and he had started

896
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: to knock it out of the park at Houston. Well, hey,

897
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,799
Speaker 2: if he's gonna knock it out of the park in

898
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,880
Speaker 2: the lone star state, bring him to Austin and let

899
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 2: him do it. If Luke fickle, if he's going to

900
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,520
Speaker 2: dominate somewhere, it doesn't need to be Cincinnati, it needs

901
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: to be Austin, Texas. Do enough people feel that way.

902
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: Here's the bottom line, though I still lean towards the

903
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 2: fact that there's going to be a coaching change here.

904
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,000
Speaker 2: I have no clue what Urban Meyer is going to do.

905
00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 2: Obviously he needs to be your one, one A and

906
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 2: one B. But all this feeling about Texas being the

907
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: premier job in college football and therefore we should be

908
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 2: able to go get essentially whoever we want to.

909
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: That's either going to be.

910
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 2: Validated definitively or we're going to have a lot of

911
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: hurt feelings in Austin.

912
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 1: Because here's the worst thing that can happen.

913
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: Worst thing that can happen is you make a move

914
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 2: and you think that you've got prime coaching real estate here,

915
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 2: which for the record, I believe you do.

916
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,760
Speaker 1: But not enough people agree with that sentiment that I feel.

917
00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,720
Speaker 2: And maybe the perception of your job in your mind

918
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 2: versus the reality of the perception of the Texas job

919
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:53,480
Speaker 2: within the coaching world, maybe we find out that there's

920
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: a large gap between those two feelings.

921
00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

922
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: Hey, selfishly, I hope urban Meyer takes the job and

923
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: we don't have to worry about it. Let's go to

924
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: the Romannudle Express to wrap it up here on this

925
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:06,240
Speaker 2: Thursday evening. We are, as I said, right on sixty

926
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:08,000
Speaker 2: percent against the number this year.

927
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: It's a phenomenal number.

928
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 2: For the record, we've only been at twenty four seven

929
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 2: a few months, but I've done a version of this

930
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,600
Speaker 2: show for the last five years. We've landed about fifty

931
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,959
Speaker 2: six percent with this thing every year over the last

932
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 2: five years. So I don't, well, that's a lie I

933
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 2: blasted all over the place, but I'm proud of it.

934
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 2: I'm proud of the number that we can put up.

935
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,520
Speaker 2: So here are the games that we've already moved on

936
00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,359
Speaker 2: this week, and then I've got a couple of new

937
00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:32,920
Speaker 2: ones for you tonight, and I well, I'll stress it

938
00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,759
Speaker 2: in just a second that we're not done yet. So

939
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 2: here are the games that we've moved on already. West

940
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Virginia plus seven against Iowa State. There are some COVID

941
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,360
Speaker 2: concerns with West Virginia, felt it out today. It's not

942
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 2: anything that would make us back off this game. We

943
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 2: like West Virginia plus seven Washington minus ten. That game

944
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 2: has since moved to eleven and a half. We got

945
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 2: it early in the week. We thought that line would

946
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 2: move if the game's played, and fingers crossed there. I

947
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,600
Speaker 2: don't think the line's done moving. I think it is

948
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 2: going to go up closer to twelve or thirteen. So

949
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 2: we got Huskies minus ten. Oklahoma State is a two

950
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 2: point favorite. Now that one, you can get a more

951
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: favorable number right now. It's kind of floated around between

952
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 2: one and two, so just catch it under a field goal.

953
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 1: We feel good there. Oklahoma State minus two.

954
00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 2: Missouri minus three against Arkansas is the fourth game we've

955
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 2: moved on, and a game that we got a bad

956
00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: number on, and I just couldn't care less because I

957
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be anywhere close to that

958
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: number anyway. Alabama minus twenty eight and a half at LSU. So,

959
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: for those of you listening on podcast, West Virginia plus seven,

960
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 2: Washington minus ten, Oklahoma State minus two, Missouri minus three,

961
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,439
Speaker 2: Alabama minus twenty eight and a half, and I want

962
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:43,360
Speaker 2: to tell you we are very very close to moving

963
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:46,440
Speaker 2: on two more games that I'm just waiting on certain things.

964
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's information, sometimes it's a line move. Right now,

965
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,360
Speaker 2: it's both. I am very confident we're not done for

966
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:55,080
Speaker 2: the weekend, so we're done with shows for the week.

967
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 2: The only way to hear the rest of those picks, however,

968
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 2: many of them I end up putting out normally it's

969
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 2: like two or three is follow me on Twitter at

970
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,359
Speaker 2: Late Kick Josh at Late Kick Josh. Make sure you're

971
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 2: following me there, and make sure you have subscribed to

972
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 2: this twenty four seven sports YouTube channel if you haven't already.

973
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 1: Had a great week of shows. Again, thank you so

974
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 1: much for the traction that you've given us.

975
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 2: Phenomenal feedback For director Colin, for producer Jordan. On the

976
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 2: podcast side of things, I'm Josh paid, have a great weekend,

977
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 2: enjoy the games and God bless