WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Wednesday, October 16 0:00:02.279 --> 0:00:06.280 Celebrating twenty five years of Jaguars football. Mark were now 0:00:06.400 --> 0:00:10.119 with a masterful run of twenty nine yards and the 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:19.200 cluck continues to run. It is Wednesday, October. This is 0:00:19.480 --> 0:00:25.760 Jaguars Happy Hour. Jaguars Happy Hours presented by the Fields 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.560 Auto Group. Hey now a guy whose current value is 0:00:29.600 --> 0:00:36.600 to first and a third? J. P. Shadrick, Welcome in 0:00:36.880 --> 0:00:39.880 Jaguars Happy Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group. JP 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:43.639 Shatrick with John Osier, Jaguars dot Com Senior Writer. An 0:00:43.640 --> 0:00:46.360 eventful day around here, Bud, what's up to? First? And 0:00:46.360 --> 0:00:51.440 a third of what I don't know? There's been a 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:54.360 few of those. Here's what we're getting to today. Of course, 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:58.360 Ramsey reaction day. The locker room just closed. We'll get 0:00:58.400 --> 0:01:00.720 into what some of the guys had to say. We'll 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:03.960 review it. At least Bengal's week is here. We're on 0:01:04.120 --> 0:01:09.640 to Cincinnati players to watch uniform unveiling. Jimmy Luck doing 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.280 to join us and Chris Connley, Jaguars wide receiver, will 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:18.880 bring a surprise guests. We don't know who it's going 0:01:18.920 --> 0:01:21.480 to be, but we always like that. It's it kind 0:01:21.480 --> 0:01:23.280 of keeps us on our toes. He's doing a great 0:01:23.319 --> 0:01:25.160 job with that, and I'm sure whoever it is will 0:01:25.200 --> 0:01:30.800 be insightful. So today was Jalen Ramsey Day around here. Started, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.160 of course, last night, with the trade for two first 0:01:33.240 --> 0:01:35.440 round picks and a fourth round pick, a first round 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.800 pick each of the next two drafts. The fourth round 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:41.360 pick is draft to the Los Angeles Rams. Jale Ramsey 0:01:41.400 --> 0:01:44.040 has gone. We just got out of the locker room 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.200 a little while ago, and I guess that for me, 0:01:47.319 --> 0:01:52.360 the tone was it wasn't really bashing of Jalen. It was, hey, 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:54.880 we're sorry to see him go, but it's a business. 0:01:55.000 --> 0:01:58.000 We're moving on and here we go to the Bengals 0:01:58.040 --> 0:01:59.880 this week. That was what I got. For most of 0:01:59.880 --> 0:02:01.880 the it was the tone you would expect. I mean, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:08.240 there is a there's an acknowledgement among players that players 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.120 it's fraternity. They know that guys have to do what 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:14.480 they need to do. I think there's also an element 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:18.040 not spoken a whole lot among the guys of you know, 0:02:18.200 --> 0:02:20.280 if if if a guy doesn't want to be here, 0:02:20.440 --> 0:02:22.880 if if if he doesn't want to fight this fight 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:26.639 with us, Uh, you know they're not going to get 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:30.720 real emotional when somebody who doesn't want to be here. 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.600 It leaves Uh, there's emotion in this game when a 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:36.760 guy who's out there fighting for them and with them 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.359 gets hurt if he can't be there for reasons not 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:43.839 of his own accord. But um, you know, Jalen made 0:02:43.840 --> 0:02:45.960 it clear three or four weeks ago that he didn't 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:47.959 want to be here. Uh. He made it clear after 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.880 the Week three game against Houston that he didn't want 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.720 to play for this team. Uh. And he said right 0:02:54.760 --> 0:02:56.760 after that that he loves his teammates, but the reality 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:58.960 is he didn't want to play with him and that 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.640 reflects on how he and how he felt about them 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:04.840 as well. They didn't verbalize that. UM. I asked a 0:03:04.840 --> 0:03:07.400 couple of players about that, and they are surprised he 0:03:07.400 --> 0:03:09.480 didn't want to go there, But um, I think there 0:03:09.520 --> 0:03:10.880 is an element of the team if you know what. 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.240 We didn't want him gone. We're better with him, but 0:03:14.960 --> 0:03:18.440 there we're gonna be no sheep, No tears shed over 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:19.959 a guy who made it clear weeks ago that he 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:21.360 didn't want to be here and didn't want to be 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:24.000 with them. Yeah. Time to time, move on and and 0:03:24.040 --> 0:03:26.919 play some football and get back on track. Tom Coughlin 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:29.840 made a statement today and put it out and through 0:03:29.880 --> 0:03:33.400 the Jaguars PR department about the trade, and you have 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:35.280 it on the screen and you've seen it all over 0:03:35.360 --> 0:03:38.240 social media today. That's the only thing we've heard from 0:03:38.640 --> 0:03:40.840 the upper management for the Jaguars. They we heard from 0:03:40.840 --> 0:03:43.240 the Jaguars owner of course, shot Con a little later 0:03:43.280 --> 0:03:45.040 in the day. He's down at the owner's meetings down 0:03:45.080 --> 0:03:49.280 South today. UM Doug Brone spoke with the media today 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:52.960 on his regular Wednesday press conference, But as we always 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:56.440 hear from Doug, there's only so much he can say 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:59.920 about the nuts and bolts of the actual transaction. He's 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.000 worried about the guys that are here ready to go 0:04:02.080 --> 0:04:06.200 on Sunday. He wanted Jailen here. He made clear of that, 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:09.960 and any coach would. And I think Doug and a 0:04:09.960 --> 0:04:13.640 couple of his comments today made clear that he felt 0:04:13.680 --> 0:04:17.240 like he had reached out after the incident in Houston. 0:04:17.800 --> 0:04:21.120 Uh that relationship, if it even needed mending. I don't 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.360 know that that was a mending situation, although he got 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:26.120 played up that way. I never got the idea from 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:28.080 listening to them, or from listening to jail And that 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:33.320 there was bad blood conflict there beyond your normal I'm 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:35.640 the coach, you're the player. Sometimes I'm gonna have to 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:39.040 get on, etcetera, etcetera. All reports are that whatever bad 0:04:39.040 --> 0:04:41.719 blood there was was from Jalen towards the front office. 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:46.760 I assume that means Tom. Uh So at some point 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:49.800 that got to a point where Jalen, I guess, didn't 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:52.240 feel like he could play for the organization. And I 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:57.240 still wonder, uh, you know, to me, there's still an 0:04:57.279 --> 0:05:01.400 element of Tom must have said something to Jalen about 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:03.839 the behavior in Houston. I think everybody who saw the 0:05:03.880 --> 0:05:07.120 behavior in Houston couldn't have said that it was good 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.599 behavior on Jalen's part. So I'm assuming that there was 0:05:10.640 --> 0:05:13.359 some sort of reprimand of you can't do that anymore 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:16.760 that Jalen didn't like. And I can only assume all 0:05:16.800 --> 0:05:18.480 this because nobody's going to talk about it, but he's 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:22.400 getting the pieces together. UM. And to me, frankly, if 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:25.960 if if a player can't live with being told that 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:29.680 those actions were wrong, then I don't know how you 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:33.880 ever approached that player and tell him he was out 0:05:33.920 --> 0:05:35.760 of line again and again. JP. In this life, not 0:05:35.800 --> 0:05:39.039 everybody's perfect. I know you you're not perfect, um, But 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.039 people have to be able to be told that a 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.800 certain situation is out a line. They told Leonard Fronett 0:05:46.839 --> 0:05:50.159 publicly last year he was out of line, and he 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:52.240 has come back. And I think Leonard would tell you, 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:54.720 and I believe he said this that he's better for it. 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:58.440 He learned from his situation. UM. I get the impression 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.960 right now from Jalen Ramsey the actions right now. He 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:04.680 can't be told that he was ever wrong. Uh. And 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:07.720 I don't know, even as great a player as he was, 0:06:08.160 --> 0:06:10.160 I don't know how you coach that and how you 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.800 move forward that in your building. I frankly don't know 0:06:12.800 --> 0:06:14.359 how the Rams will deal with that. But that's not 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:17.800 our issue anymore. Let's take a look at the recent 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.560 draft history of that of the Jacksonville Jaguars in the 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.120 first round. We could go back even further if you 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:27.559 but why you know, we started in when the ownership changed. 0:06:27.600 --> 0:06:30.159 Here and you see the first round draft picks of 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:33.400 each year and where they are now, and of course fourteen, fifteen, 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.119 sixteen draft picks are all where in Los Angeles Rams 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:41.000 uniforms the last three are here, and even previous to this, 0:06:41.120 --> 0:06:44.080 you know Blaine Gabbert's not here. Obviously he's he's gone, 0:06:44.080 --> 0:06:45.880 and then a lot of guys aren't in the league 0:06:45.880 --> 0:06:49.120 anymore or out or moved on. Mercedes Louis is in 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:52.720 Green Bay. But really I think Blaine and and Mercedes 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.680 before this or the only two still playing Tyson Oul 0:06:55.720 --> 0:06:58.240 while we're still playing. But that's that's really it. But 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.400 they're not here, that's the issue. You know, a lot 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:03.080 of these that's how you you build up your draft, 0:07:03.160 --> 0:07:05.680 your first round, second, third round guys, you keep them 0:07:05.680 --> 0:07:08.919 in the building. And that just hasn't happened over time here. Yeah, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.560 and uh, you know, the Jalen is is clearly so 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:17.440 much different than the others, the others, uh, Dante, I 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:18.960 don't think it was a bad pick. I think he 0:07:19.040 --> 0:07:21.360 just wasn't going to be a guy who who was 0:07:21.400 --> 0:07:23.920 going to resign because they had players in the position 0:07:24.400 --> 0:07:27.160 he hadn't lived up to that first round draft or 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:32.200 that top three status. Uh you know, Jaalen clearly wasn't 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:37.080 a miss. Uh. You know, I think Jalen just got 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:40.400 to the point where for whatever weird reason, didn't want 0:07:40.400 --> 0:07:44.480 to be here. But clearly you have to have more 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.280 first round picks in the building over the course of time. 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:52.800 To be a perennial playoff team right now, they haven't 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.600 been in that charts a big reason why. Um. I 0:07:56.640 --> 0:07:59.920 think the the counter to that is they have draft 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:04.760 did well in some other rounds. It's not like there 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:08.600 is there is no productivity, productivity from drafts here in 0:08:08.640 --> 0:08:14.000 the building. But you're going forward. It's obviously if if 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:21.360 in a similar chart reads the same and there's no uh, 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:29.200 if if Josh Allen doesn't work out, if uh, let's 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.439 just first round pick tap, if all these guys continue 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.760 to not work out, then you're always and you're usually 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:40.920 going to be down frontline performing talent and uh that's 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:43.840 the reality of it. They've got to do better retaining it. 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.160 That's always the goal, and that charts a reason why 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.040 there's been one playoff appearance in the last ten years. 0:08:49.280 --> 0:08:52.800 It's hard to to predict what happened with Jalen. I 0:08:52.800 --> 0:08:56.200 mean you can't really. I've never seen anything like it. 0:08:56.840 --> 0:09:00.960 I understand quite like it. Again, I don't know. I 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:04.640 know there's fans who are criticizing quote unquote how the 0:09:04.679 --> 0:09:10.000 team handled Jalen Um and I guess that's fair criticism 0:09:10.000 --> 0:09:13.679 because he's not here, so you're gonna have that criticism 0:09:13.720 --> 0:09:16.920 based on what we know, think, we know, have seen 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.360 actions wise, I don't know how you handle that. You know, 0:09:21.920 --> 0:09:24.840 I've said several times a day on the air in 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:29.120 different forms, Um I got, I got a question. And 0:09:29.200 --> 0:09:31.600 I was thinking about the concept last night of what 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.200 advice would you give the Rams on how to handle 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:37.880 Jalen Ramsey. And unfortunately, and and I really, for three 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:41.600 years I enjoyed covering Jalen. I liked being a reporter covery, 0:09:41.760 --> 0:09:44.600 I was entertaining. I didn't think until the last month 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:46.679 that he had been I thought until the last month 0:09:46.720 --> 0:09:51.440 he had been more positive than negative, clearly. But the 0:09:51.480 --> 0:09:54.480 only answer seems to be you can't do anything to 0:09:54.520 --> 0:10:01.640 make him unhappy, meaning you can't a call defenses that 0:10:01.679 --> 0:10:03.880 he doesn't like because he's publicly said he doesn't like 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.840 that and that's bothered him. And you can't tell him 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:11.760 that a behavior was out of line. Well, once you 0:10:11.760 --> 0:10:13.640 get to that point, I don't know how you manage it. 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:15.760 So maybe he'll be different in l A. Maybe he'll 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:19.839 be so happy in the sunshine with state tax that 0:10:20.120 --> 0:10:22.800 he's happy, and Gideon isn't bothered by those things. But 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.040 the only reference that we have is that he was 0:10:25.080 --> 0:10:27.480 bothered by those things. And I don't know how you 0:10:27.520 --> 0:10:29.800 manage that if those things are going to set you off, 0:10:29.840 --> 0:10:34.400 because those things happened at every NFL team. Well, football 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:38.280 is not like the NBA, meaning in the NBA, a 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:43.280 couple of players can sort of run the organization. That 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:45.760 doesn't work in football. In football, at some point, when 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:48.600 you've got twenty two guys, at some point, things have 0:10:48.720 --> 0:10:53.959 to happen that aren't individually promoting one player or the other, 0:10:54.240 --> 0:10:57.720 unless that player is a quarterback. Now, if he's a quarterback, 0:10:57.760 --> 0:11:00.079 it's different, but you can't bend the whole organization and 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:04.360 toward a non quarterback position. And it it felt like 0:11:04.440 --> 0:11:08.520 that's what Jalen wanted and needed. And uh, I think 0:11:08.559 --> 0:11:11.880 that works. So it's not gonna work here, and I 0:11:11.880 --> 0:11:14.679 will see if it works in Los Angeles Jaguars happy hour. 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:17.959 Let's move on to the quarterback. Speaking of Gardner, Minshew 0:11:18.040 --> 0:11:21.800 the second spoke with the Jaguars media today and coming 0:11:21.840 --> 0:11:24.840 off worst outing for him at least this season in 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:30.160 his rookie year, fourteen sixty three yards. This is our 0:11:30.200 --> 0:11:32.880 first chance to see how he bounces back from a 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:36.280 rough outing on the field, and the tone hasn't changed 0:11:36.320 --> 0:11:38.560 for him. He still seems like the same guy he 0:11:38.640 --> 0:11:42.400 has been at least talking to him today, and you 0:11:42.440 --> 0:11:45.600 have to think that that's a good sign for the offense. Yeah, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:49.240 and he wasn't really asked specifically, And I almost asked it, 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:52.040 and I wasn't quite sure how to phrase it in 0:11:52.080 --> 0:11:55.000 the right way, so I didn't. But you know, how 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.000 do you bounce back from this? And does your approach change? 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:03.000 And there really wasn't a sort of asking the area. Um, 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:06.959 and it it's so short term what happened. He's not 0:12:06.960 --> 0:12:09.640 gonna be able to prove that he's a franchise guy 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.440 in one week. Uh, just as he couldn't prove in 0:12:12.520 --> 0:12:15.800 four games that he was a franchise guy. And the 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:20.520 process of getting over the New Orleans game, that's not 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:24.800 really how it works. It's it's a process of over time, 0:12:25.000 --> 0:12:28.320 teams will throw things at a young quarterback, and over 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:31.440 time you have to learn how to deal with that 0:12:31.520 --> 0:12:33.360 and how to move on and get through it and 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:37.000 know what you're seeing. So it's not really a question. 0:12:37.640 --> 0:12:40.760 Just as it couldn't be asked today, it's not going 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:42.760 to be able to be answered in one week, I guess, 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:46.320 is my point. And everybody wants to know that there 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.360 was excitement that he was a franchise guy for the 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.920 first four weeks and then he had a bad game, 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:52.520 and now he's not, and they want to know now 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:55.040 is he going to be a franchise guy? How he 0:12:55.080 --> 0:12:58.040 plays in Cincinnati will decide that. And the problem in 0:12:58.080 --> 0:13:02.240 this day and age is there's six days between NFL games, 0:13:02.960 --> 0:13:06.520 and he used to have six days of writing in 0:13:06.559 --> 0:13:09.600 the newspaper about it and sort of calmness. Now you've 0:13:09.640 --> 0:13:14.239 got six days of Twitter and instant analysis, and everybody 0:13:14.320 --> 0:13:17.160 wants to have it take saying this is the guy, 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:20.760 this isn't the guy. Um, So everybody wants to play 0:13:20.760 --> 0:13:25.120 off one game and make these huge, swathing decisions over 0:13:25.160 --> 0:13:28.000 a guy's career. It's not going to be that way 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.080 for Gardener, just as it wasn't that way for Nick Foles, 0:13:30.320 --> 0:13:32.360 wasn't that way for Peyton Manning's rookie. When they wait 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.160 for Aaron Rodgers in his third year, this is gonna 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.640 play out. I think he's gonna be okay. I think 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:40.440 he's gonna be good. And how he responds to all 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:42.360 this over the next two or three weeks will be 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.960 the first indications of how good. But we're not going 0:13:45.000 --> 0:13:46.959 to have the ultimate answer, just as we couldn't ask 0:13:46.960 --> 0:13:50.280 the ultimate question day of him. I couldn't stand there 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:53.679 and say, hey, Gardner, are you gonna be a franchise guy? 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:56.000 That's gonna happen on Sunday. That's what everybody sort of 0:13:56.040 --> 0:13:59.600 wants to know, But that answer isn't available yet. It 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:03.480 would help if the Jags can still consistently run the football. 0:14:03.679 --> 0:14:06.640 And you know, I think to write right there lasting 0:14:06.640 --> 0:14:10.080 the league against the run, They're enormously lasting the league 0:14:10.080 --> 0:14:12.160 against the run. They are as bad as anybody's been 0:14:12.240 --> 0:14:15.720 over the last few games. They've Yeah, they've got some 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:19.720 issues going on there Leonard. Even last week it was 0:14:20.120 --> 0:14:23.200 there were times where he was running well, but they 0:14:23.280 --> 0:14:25.560 just couldn't get to the point where they could run enough, 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:27.400 you know, And that's what they need to be doing, 0:14:27.520 --> 0:14:29.680 is getting those third downs, keeping drives alive. They had 0:14:29.680 --> 0:14:31.040 a lot of three and ounced early in the game. 0:14:31.080 --> 0:14:34.760 They couldn't really establish anything. Last week, still had seventy 0:14:34.800 --> 0:14:38.800 two yards forty six in the receiving yards, So I mean, 0:14:38.920 --> 0:14:42.400 a pretty good day at the office for Leonard. But 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.240 this feels like a game where you can really make 0:14:45.280 --> 0:14:49.720 hay in the running game. Yeah, and that's always uh, 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:52.960 it's always dangerous in this league to say, well, this 0:14:53.000 --> 0:14:55.080 team is starting gets the Rhun, we want to run, 0:14:55.120 --> 0:14:57.000 so we're gonna be able to run, because usually teams 0:14:57.000 --> 0:14:58.800 can take that away if they want to. Even if 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:03.040 they're bad against the Rhun, they can if they know 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:04.800 what you want to do, they can slow it down 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.400 enough where it's not gonna be this monster game. I 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:11.600 don't expect four yards rushing against Uh. The Bengals. Interesting 0:15:11.640 --> 0:15:13.800 about the running game to me, though. JP was listening 0:15:13.840 --> 0:15:15.640 to Doug on Monday when he talked to the media. 0:15:16.800 --> 0:15:22.400 Doug's usually not one two come out and make bold 0:15:22.480 --> 0:15:26.760 statements if he really doesn't believe it. And he talked 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.200 a couple of questions on Monday about liking where he 0:15:30.240 --> 0:15:34.000 thinks they're going with the running game. He feels like 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:35.920 they're much better than they were early in the season. 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:37.960 He likes what he's seeing it out of the blocking. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:41.480 When breakdowns happen, it's only one or two things. It's 0:15:41.560 --> 0:15:43.960 not like the entire play is breaking. Now when they're 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.840 watching film, they can see things going in the right direction. 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.320 I don't know what that will mean for the Bengals game. 0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:51.720 I think they're gonna beat the Bengals because I don't 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:53.800 think are very good right now. I don't know what 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:55.440 it will mean for the running game in that game, 0:15:56.080 --> 0:15:59.440 but what you heard him say could bode well, especially 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.160 when you come find it with how Leonard's running. I 0:16:02.200 --> 0:16:05.920 think they feel like the running game has a chance 0:16:05.960 --> 0:16:09.600 to get going and be something really productive. This time 0:16:09.720 --> 0:16:11.760 last year, it would have been hard to say that 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:15.560 because Leonard was hurt, he was bulky on the hamstring 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.440 all year, and they had so many offensive line injuries. 0:16:18.800 --> 0:16:21.120 I'm not sure last year they ever got to a 0:16:21.240 --> 0:16:23.360 point of feeling out like they were close to being 0:16:23.360 --> 0:16:25.880 what they wanted to be in that area. This year, 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:28.760 you feel like they are, which could be one of 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.160 those hidden things that we're talking about in a few weeks. 0:16:31.520 --> 0:16:34.360 Hey remember when they thought they were close, turns out 0:16:34.440 --> 0:16:36.560 they were right. It's it's an area to watch over 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:41.120 the next month. Jaguar's defense, obviously, the spotlight will be 0:16:41.200 --> 0:16:44.840 on the secondary moving ahead here. Trey Herndon will fill 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:48.080 in that spot that Jayala Ramsey vacates. But you got 0:16:48.120 --> 0:16:49.800 a j Boye on the other side, who has been 0:16:49.800 --> 0:16:51.920 around here for a few years now, and then the 0:16:51.960 --> 0:16:55.920 safety is on the back end, and they feel confident, 0:16:55.920 --> 0:16:57.760 at least they say they're confident they can go out 0:16:57.800 --> 0:17:01.320 there and play as a unit. Yeah, there's a there 0:17:01.320 --> 0:17:04.400 are some pieces there. It's just as a J. Boys 0:17:04.400 --> 0:17:07.159 sat in the locker room today, so striking that a 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:11.080 J talked about seeing a picture of the two thousand 0:17:11.160 --> 0:17:14.159 seventeen secondary said he saw one this morning and he 0:17:14.200 --> 0:17:17.680 was talking about a C. Aaron Colvin Buried Church Get. 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:24.119 I mean the tightness of that group, Um, the production, 0:17:25.040 --> 0:17:28.800 the energy that it felt when it came together. Uh, boy, 0:17:28.840 --> 0:17:31.840 times change in the NFL fast, and now they've got 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:36.520 a group that very unproven at at best. You I 0:17:36.520 --> 0:17:39.159 haven't added up to start. When you add up Ronnie 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:44.920 Harrison starts, Uh, Trey Herndon's and Will Stared Wilson's, I'm 0:17:44.960 --> 0:17:48.480 not sure they even get to sixteen total. If they do, 0:17:48.520 --> 0:17:52.480 it's close. So you're talking about three really either rookies, 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.760 young guys in experience with boy a Um, yeah, the 0:17:55.760 --> 0:17:57.680 best player in secondary is probably Jay Hayden right now. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:03.320 And uh, you know, there are pieces, but to me, 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:08.200 it's really up to a miles Jack and good to 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:13.840 continue getting better at linebacker and in this going into 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:16.560 this season, the strength of this team is supposed to 0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:21.240 be the defensive line. It hasn't played to that yet clearly. 0:18:21.400 --> 0:18:24.280 For the for the next four or five games to 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:26.920 be what this team needs, which is to win three 0:18:27.000 --> 0:18:29.840 or four and get back into it, the defensive line 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:32.040 has to be what we thought it was gonna be 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:34.280 before the season and what it really hasn't been so far. 0:18:35.040 --> 0:18:37.680 Quick look at the Cincinnati Bengals, of course, oh and six. 0:18:37.840 --> 0:18:41.520 They have struggled to do much on either side of 0:18:41.520 --> 0:18:43.600 the ball really, I mean especially on the defensive side. 0:18:43.960 --> 0:18:47.560 Their last league against the run, they struggle in the 0:18:47.640 --> 0:18:50.440 run game. On offense, they do throw the ball around 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.440 a little bit, but other near the bottom of most 0:18:53.520 --> 0:18:58.600 any statistical category. So that's six games. It stats all that. 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:05.560 They will have the quarterback right, Andy Dalton. How well 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:09.120 is he playing that's up for debate. But um, he's 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:10.760 been there for a while now. He's been the guy 0:19:10.840 --> 0:19:14.480 in Cincinnati for a number of years. This which is 0:19:14.480 --> 0:19:17.159 the May I mean he was drafted I believe the 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.120 year I got back to Jacksonville two thousand and eleven, 0:19:20.560 --> 0:19:23.000 and I remember writing stories when I first got back 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:25.359 about Dot Dalton in the draft, and I would the 0:19:25.400 --> 0:19:28.399 Jaguars take him if he was available in the second round. Uh. 0:19:28.440 --> 0:19:30.320 They wind up taking Blaine Gabbert in the first, so 0:19:30.359 --> 0:19:33.159 that I went out the window. But um, he was 0:19:33.160 --> 0:19:34.960 the guy a lot of Jaguars fans sort of liked, 0:19:35.000 --> 0:19:36.959 and you know as the second round pick. I've been 0:19:36.960 --> 0:19:40.360 a very good player throughout his career. Uh, three Pro Bowls. Yeah, 0:19:40.400 --> 0:19:43.520 I mean he's he's what you want. Um. The Bengals 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:50.480 right now are your prototypical first year coach rebuild team. 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.439 They've been close a few times. Uh, the record is 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:55.960 probably a little worse than the actual team. They've had 0:19:55.960 --> 0:19:59.720 three games, Uh, could have slashed, should have won. So 0:20:00.760 --> 0:20:02.520 I don't think they're a team that's gonna go winless. 0:20:02.560 --> 0:20:05.439 I don't think they're gonna push that envelope. At some 0:20:05.440 --> 0:20:08.120 point they're gonna get one. So in that sense, they're 0:20:08.200 --> 0:20:12.600 dangerous because you're going to Cincinnati if you're the Jaguars, 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:14.400 and if you lose this one to meet, the season 0:20:14.480 --> 0:20:16.800 is done. I mean, I don't think you come back 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.679 from this because that puts you at two and five. 0:20:22.119 --> 0:20:23.879 And the a FC lost, and then even if you 0:20:23.920 --> 0:20:25.680 win these next two before the by you're still only 0:20:25.720 --> 0:20:29.680 four and five. This is one Againstown six team. Oh 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:32.720 in six team that you have to win. Uh. They're 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:36.719 beat up. They're not doing very well against what you 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.040 think you do well, which is runs. So uh, you know, boy, 0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:44.800 this is one they need. It's kind of obvious, but 0:20:45.359 --> 0:20:48.719 to me, when you looked at the season once Foals 0:20:48.760 --> 0:20:50.760 got hurt, I thought they needed to get to five 0:20:50.800 --> 0:20:54.480 and four. But when I did all that math, three 0:20:54.560 --> 0:20:56.679 of those five wins I was talking about, we're in 0:20:56.680 --> 0:20:59.000 the next three weeks, so these are the ones you 0:20:59.040 --> 0:21:01.560 gotta win. Have them. Let's come back. Plenty ahead still, 0:21:01.600 --> 0:21:04.119 we'll look at the AFC South standings, will look at 0:21:04.119 --> 0:21:06.320 the games ahead in the division. This week we'll pick 0:21:06.320 --> 0:21:09.280 our players to watch. That's right around the corner. Jimmy 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.560 Luck will join us in studio for the uniform unveiling, 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:15.240 and Chris Connelly, Jaguars Wide Receiver, do as well with 0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:18.520 a surprise guest from the locker Rooms. 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