1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Slab book. Hi mate, mate, excuse me, mate, do you 2 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:09,799 Speaker 1: want if I take a photo of you? You look 3 00:00:09,840 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: really random and cool? Oh yeah, I was just heading 4 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: to my normal person's job at a restaurant. I never 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: thought of myself as the subject of a photographer's interest. 6 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, man, you're just really cool and the lot. 7 00:00:24,840 --> 00:00:27,320 Speaker 1: So I'm really hidding the side of your face right 8 00:00:27,360 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: now on twenty third and third in the middle of 9 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: New York City. Oh okay, So just should I do 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: be you, mate, like you're so cool? I don't know, 11 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: Maybe just lean up against that bow daga, maybe grab 12 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:49,599 Speaker 1: that mangy random cat in the book dagga. Okay, yeah, 13 00:00:49,640 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: I mean this just seems so normal to me. This 14 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: is like an everyday thing I would just do in 15 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: my life. Hilarious, mate, I love New York. You guys 16 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: have crazy lives. Okay, let me just get the f 17 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 1: stopped right Okay, focusing right now, and feel free to 18 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: move because I just like to capture action. Oh god, 19 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: I'm so embarrassed, but yet suddenly I'm feeling a little 20 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: bit empowered. Yeah you're doing great, mate. Okay, maybe I'll 21 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: just do it a quick little spin or something. That's 22 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: not too much movement. No, I love when guys move. 23 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: And I'm beautiful, but I'm not a homosexual. I have 24 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: a beautiful fiance, but I love beautiful men. Oh that's 25 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: so cool. Yeah, I really want a wife. Oh it's 26 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: the best when you see a girl that you love. 27 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 1: It's a fit bird. You just gotta go for it. 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: I couldn't feel more alive or at ease right now. 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: But I have to go back to my normal day 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: to day work life because that's New York City? Is 31 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: it okay? If I? Yeah? Man, go, Thank you so 32 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: much for your time. Him. I'm my name's Brooklyn. What's 33 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: your name? My name is just Joe Schmo, New Yorker. 34 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Really good to meet you, Joe, catch you on the 35 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:11,880 Speaker 1: flip side in this crazy city. Thanks again, mate, Man, 36 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: I can barely understand you with that insane foreign accent, 37 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: but I hope you find what you're looking for. Man, audience, cheerio. 38 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,800 Speaker 1: Who's that knocking at the door. It's all your friends, 39 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,799 Speaker 1: your filthy horror. Your husband's gone, and we've got books 40 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: and a bottle of wine to kill. It's Hollywood, it's books, 41 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: it's gossip. I'm shook. It's memoirs, marteeny Clem book Club. 42 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:51,399 Speaker 1: Come read it while it's hot. Celebrity book Club. Tell 43 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:56,440 Speaker 1: your secrets. We won't talk celebrity books. No boys are 44 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: allowed celebrity books. Say it loud and pub buzz man. 45 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:08,799 Speaker 1: I brought the queer foe, I best friend, I best mate. 46 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: How are you instantly Australian? Sorry we're doing Yes, I'm 47 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: just saying we're gonna do a British book today and 48 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 1: you can't resist when we try to go British, you 49 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: go Australian. No, but I'm gonna try and stay in 50 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: like British love. I have to be in London for 51 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: to really like, you know, hit home. But I love 52 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: me Pubs, I love me mates. When we were in England, 53 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: which people which we actually never even really told our 54 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: listeners about because we were so taken by the country 55 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: of Ireland, you spoke in a British accent the entire time. 56 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: I'm British. People were just kind of being like, okay, 57 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: just doing that, like you're just doing this, like all right, 58 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: so and just be like does he think like I 59 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,480 Speaker 1: feel like they were kind of feeling bad for you 60 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 1: and this like Madonna way like, oh, he thinks like 61 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: some people thought it was funny, and some people literally 62 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: thought I was English love. I think like when you 63 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: got the cabs and you were just like, oh, Pennyway 64 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Circle or whatever, we were constantly going to, like the 65 00:04:19,520 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 1: Fallington Meadows. Here's a recommendation for you, my best friend, Stephen, 66 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: if you're into like Australian stuff. This is just my 67 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: way to tell you that I'm the only one. It 68 00:04:32,279 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: feels like watching that insane show Firefly Lane with Katherine 69 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: Heigl's not Australian, no, but there's the guy in it. 70 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: There's a guy in it that's Australian. Yeah, that's one 71 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:45,840 Speaker 1: of those shows that's very like it's not Christian, but 72 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: it's something that's not Christian but feels Christian. The way 73 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:52,960 Speaker 1: it's filmed, I don't know, like the visuals and like 74 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 1: what's also really produced by like a small Christian production 75 00:04:57,480 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 1: company about it is that it like it does three 76 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: different time periods, which is so weird to do. And 77 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: they're always showing their friendship in the seventies, but then 78 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: their friendship like in the fifties. It's it's friendship in 79 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 1: the seventies in high school. Then it's like them in 80 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: the eighties just starting out as journalists and then and 81 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: like trying to get interviews yeah, and just being like, 82 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 1: go under the tape, this is how we'll get the shot, 83 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: and always being like, damn, I wanted to interview him. 84 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: I mean, it's really hard to be a journalist. You're 85 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 1: always trying to get that interview you are, and you 86 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: do have to get the shot, and you have to 87 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 1: be sneaky as you know. And then it does like 88 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 1: current time, but the current time is set in two 89 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:51,359 Speaker 1: thousand and three, the future the show ever gets because 90 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: he's like being a journalist like in Iraq for like 91 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: the Iraq War, so it's like all of a sudden 92 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: will be like two thousand and three. Anyway, it's one 93 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: of I think the worst show's ever made, but also 94 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: one of the best. I recommend it to you and 95 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 1: any listeners out there. It's like Catherine Heigl, why I guess, 96 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: I mean, she doesn't have a she's not she doesn't 97 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: have like a choice in what she does. She she 98 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: completely ruined her career in Hollywood by like being like 99 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,840 Speaker 1: this crazy, huge bitch who like quit graz Anatomy because 100 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: she was too good for her and then her and 101 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,360 Speaker 1: was like, girl, you think you're too good for like 102 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: the most successful show ever, okay, like watch out and 103 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 1: then she just like got shitty rolls and that was it. Well, 104 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 1: she did addresses. What was that movie with her and 105 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: Josh Domel where they like inherit a child? There was 106 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: that one that flopped. There was The Ugly Truth with 107 00:06:45,080 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 1: Gerard Butler that flopped. She just was kind of being 108 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 1: floppington Oh. It was called like Life as we Know It. 109 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: Although here's what I'll say about her flopping ton era 110 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,039 Speaker 1: is she kind of it wasn't totally her fault. She 111 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: tried to jump off the sitcom train it into the 112 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: rom com train right as the rom Com era was ending. 113 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: Like twenty seven Dresses was in many ways the last 114 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: movie evermade no no because it twenty seven Dresses is 115 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: a certified classic, but it was like post wedding planner, 116 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 1: post like rom call, like it was the last film 117 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: of that era. And she was like TV's over. It's 118 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: like no, actually, girl, TV is kind of the only future. 119 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 1: You misread the room, and so now she's just got 120 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: to take like whatever they'll fucking give her. And I 121 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: feel like also like in Firefly Lane, she plays like 122 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: a star who's like a total bitch. But why do 123 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: we call women bitches when they're just for what they want? 124 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: She's a bitch, sees a diva. What about this? She's 125 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 1: a boss. Yeah, she's a person businesswoman speaking you know 126 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: business women. Yes, so's this woman. One of the most 127 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: amazing British businesswoman is um a woman who invented girl bossing. 128 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: I think it was originally called girl power. Yeah, she 129 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: literally invented girl power. And she's always been hot and 130 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: thin and that's something that she really sticks to and 131 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:11,960 Speaker 1: I remire that consistency. Of course, we're talking about Victoria 132 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: Beckham posh posh spice. Shall I wear the little black 133 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: dress or the other little black dress? She's just like 134 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: your classic like just trashy hot. I mean, the funny 135 00:08:25,640 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: thing about her being called pose is that she's kind 136 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: of like she's likes you so essex. Yeah, Like she's 137 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: the most like girls we saw getting out of a 138 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,920 Speaker 1: cab for a hand, Like she's the hot one who's 139 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: just that shot has too many calories, the hot yet 140 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,160 Speaker 1: the hand being like dat, we're doing skinny girls, skinny 141 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: gun margaritas and she's got like, you know, the dresses 142 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: that I mean the amount of fabric aband aid. Where's 143 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 1: the rest you address? So she's really cool. She's an entrepreneur. 144 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: We're actually not reading her book reading. She definitely has 145 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: a book. She has like she's very she has like 146 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: six books about like how to shop online? Here's how 147 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: you shop online? Anyway. One of the most girl boss 148 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: things she did was have Wait, that is so true. 149 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: You ain't a girl boss if you don't have a 150 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: hot sun that you have named at least one of 151 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: your businesses after Yeah, Like are you so? She has 152 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: a line of a line of pillows called like Brooklyn yea, 153 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 1: all their kids, all their kids names like are such 154 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 1: brand names? Um, but the oldest one is named Brooklyn. 155 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: Where are you at Brooklyn? Da? I mean, what is 156 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: what is trashier than being like? Because it's honestly, it's 157 00:09:55,360 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: the equivalent of like, naming your daughter London is like 158 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: being a British person naming your I need to have 159 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: a daughter named London. Or it's the equivalent of Diana 160 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: dla Garza naming her daughter Dallas. Yeah you know him, 161 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 1: you love him? He just got married Brooklyn Backham. We 162 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: are doing. His photography book called What I See. I see, 163 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: my photos, my words, my life. This is what I see. 164 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: It's like, we get it, You're not blind, but no, 165 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: this book is very bitch. I am not blind. My 166 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: assess looks. I wake up, open my eyes and I'd 167 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 1: be looking all day, and this book helps me remember 168 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: what I looked at. Now. We all grow up with trauma, right, 169 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: And some could say that Brooklyn's you know, the trauma 170 00:10:55,559 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 1: and the plus is that he has insanely hot parents. Absolutely, 171 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: but I will say they basically made like four very 172 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:08,440 Speaker 1: hot kids, right, so it's like trauma kind of solved. 173 00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: But also like, okay, this book was very this thing 174 00:11:12,280 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: where like hot, rich, famous families are like so horny, 175 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: thank you, thank you. My entire notes were was like 176 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 1: horny again, Page ten, horny again. For your Mom's just funny, 177 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: like here's a shot. I love the shot of my mom. 178 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 1: She looks so beautiful and it's just like this really 179 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: intimate clothes shop where she's just like really glowing, like 180 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 1: in a car on the way to somewhere, and it's 181 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: just like all these topless photos of his simpl and 182 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: just being like, here's cruise again. Just being such an 183 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 1: awesome subject and then again hot photos of his dad 184 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,240 Speaker 1: being like, my dad is a legend. My dad is 185 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: the funniest person. My dad always makes me laugh. And 186 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: it's just like like David in a SKYLEI cap, just 187 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 1: like at a diner, a loan. It's like hilarious and 188 00:11:59,120 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: like prop be the first photo that in this book, 189 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: this beautiful book that really stuck with me. That and 190 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 1: I would frame honestly, it's stuck with me for a 191 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: few different reasons. So beautiful photo of Victoria Beckham salmon fishing, 192 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: a nice fo that really sets the tone. Um, you know, 193 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: the book really starts out. Oh and by the way, yeah, 194 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 1: so this book is like his photos printed like with 195 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: how do I suscribe? It's like print so cheaply, I 196 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: guess that's the word that even though it's kind of 197 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:40,439 Speaker 1: it's kind of a match. It's kind of a matt 198 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: It's not a glossy page. It's more of a matt page. 199 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: But I will say this, so this book is way 200 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,080 Speaker 1: more art book than Drew Barrymore's photo book, which you 201 00:12:48,120 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: may have heard of talk about in the Pot, which 202 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: was like way more just like iPhone photos like this 203 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: is this is very Butt magazine surprisingly, so first of all, 204 00:12:56,440 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: most of it's in black and white. The cover has 205 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:03,080 Speaker 1: that same pink tint that Butt Magazine does. So it's 206 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 1: trying to be way more like ot and minimalist. A 207 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: lot some of the photos are full bleed, some are not. 208 00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: They have like this cropping, Like honestly, it's borderline art photography. 209 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: I would say it needs way more like flowers to 210 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,240 Speaker 1: be art photography because you know, like our photography is 211 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: always like dead flowers. I would say Drew Barrymore's book 212 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: is almost outsider art. Like it feels like you picked 213 00:13:27,559 --> 00:13:33,439 Speaker 1: up oh mentally semi their person's book made on Shutterfly, 214 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: and you're like, wait a second, this is amazing and 215 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,959 Speaker 1: this as you said, yeah, it's but it gives a 216 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: little bit of like vice, like you're going into Costa 217 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 1: magazine PS one art fairs. It's not full like fashion photography, 218 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: but it is way more Costa. It's way more vice. 219 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean many things. I think from the very beginning, 220 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the same in fishing photos, you're 221 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: seeing that this is what I call almost like rich 222 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: person photography. It's it's like graphic designer photography it has 223 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: there's it's really about the cropping. It's very rule of thirds. 224 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 1: It's very like tons of sky, tons of landscapes, like 225 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:15,160 Speaker 1: small person like looking back at camera, tons of like 226 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: the like of like camera in the shot. Half of 227 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 1: this book is yeah, half of this book is me 228 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: shooting myself with the like a camera like in the mirror. 229 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:29,360 Speaker 1: And he'll there's little bits of text and he'll say like, oh, 230 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: I grabma, I instantly grab my Lika or like my 231 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: hot mom shot of Fuji film. Well, and when he's 232 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: in that vacation the beginning, he's he has this really 233 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: really interesting um kind of justification for the concept of 234 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: the book where he says, looking at the photos takes 235 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: me back to the moment I capture them, which is 236 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: sort of like the concept of memory literally, but sometimes 237 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: I think we forget that. It's like why yeah, because 238 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: it takes you back to that moment and even if 239 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: you're not there, I feel like I'm on vacation with 240 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: Posh salmon fishing. Yeah, these vacations. Also, I love that 241 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 1: there does like also famous image, but there's still being 242 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: like full family vacation to the Maldives, like I know, 243 00:15:15,880 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: like we're still doing very like family vacations you did 244 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: when you were eight, You know what I mean. I 245 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: guess I didn't go to the mall times when I 246 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: was eight, or I guess or you traveled globally with 247 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: his family as a child. It's like, we're not I'm 248 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: not at thirty. We're not just being like we're going 249 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:39,000 Speaker 1: to Malise. If you were like a sexy family. Know, 250 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: if I was like really attracted to my mom, maybe 251 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: I would be like, let's go to the Maldives. Because 252 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: your parents did just go at a safari, and I 253 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: feel like if you really wanted to, they would have 254 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: taken you and you could have done this sexy family safari. 255 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 1: I just see them not wanting to like double the 256 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: price if they're like forty thousand dollars vacation by being like, 257 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: we're taking Stephen boyfriends. So sad, so poor, Yeah, they 258 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: are poor. Ultimately coming out as my parents being okay, 259 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: and now you came out of sport. Now you're coming 260 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 1: out as your parents being poor not wanting to pay 261 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 1: for you to go in so far, but he also 262 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: says so Brooklyn also says something in the in the 263 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: beginning of the most book, and this is the two 264 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: pages at the beginning that are really the most hope. 265 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: I think. I think you know we're going I hope. 266 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: He says, Um, he got behind the camera because he 267 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: doesn't like to speak. Oh yeah, which is so photo god, 268 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: which is kind of you know, the thesis of a 269 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: lot of directors or you know, right, because man behind 270 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: the camera, you know, they're not encouraged to use their 271 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: words obviously, Um. And then you know, boys don't cry, 272 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: don't like and they also do resident sculptures, and I 273 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: think both of those are ways for man to sort 274 00:16:59,320 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: of get their tears out, if you will. He also 275 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: the big also this whole book, And the other thing 276 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:11,000 Speaker 1: about the intro intros in the whole book is he's like, yeah, basically, also, 277 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: this book is like huge for me because I've done 278 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 1: one campaign for polland Bear. So no, he says, I 279 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: shot a photo diary for pulland Bear. And it's like, 280 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: what is this like midass brand pulland Bear. It's so 281 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:28,640 Speaker 1: like Greater g Star Dunham. It sounds so great Ord 282 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,560 Speaker 1: And he's like, and it's basically the whole book is 283 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,040 Speaker 1: a thank you to pulland Bear for like really like 284 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 1: believing in him and getting it behind a camera to shoot, 285 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 1: just like one guy in jeans once and I was like, 286 00:17:38,240 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 1: when I can, like, you have my camera be my word. Yeah. 287 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: And I went to the polland Bear site today and 288 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 1: I was like, okay, it is dead in random Yeah. 289 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,800 Speaker 1: And you know it's like a guy and a girl 290 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: in sunglasses. Could you see Brooklyn Beckham's indelible imprint on 291 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: the brand all these years later? You know? No, I'll 292 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:01,679 Speaker 1: say that I feel like they moved. It was a 293 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: different style. It was. It was being a little more 294 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: just like classic flash big sunglasses. There's a there's a 295 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,680 Speaker 1: point and again in that Ice and Trip near the 296 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: beginning where he has this little cult, Iceland feels really back. 297 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: Maybe that's just because we had friends went to Iceland, 298 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: and but I've seen, like I feel like some shows 299 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,640 Speaker 1: that have been shooting in Iceland. And then I mean, 300 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: this book was also from twenty to sixteen. Well, but 301 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: we picked it up and right, why is that because 302 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: Iceland's back? Darby's law, Um, he has a line he goes, 303 00:18:39,280 --> 00:18:41,760 Speaker 1: this is a photo of like a beach, and Iceland 304 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,520 Speaker 1: is very this kind of photography because of the landscape. 305 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: I think it just lends itself to what I call 306 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:51,920 Speaker 1: graphic designer photography. Um, it's extremely like barren and like 307 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,720 Speaker 1: because I think on the thing about graphic designer photography 308 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 1: is it doesn't really want to tell too much of 309 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,680 Speaker 1: a story. It just wants to have like a person 310 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: kind of looking away or kind of looking at the camera, 311 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 1: but like kind of far away. It's like, very rarely 312 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: are you being like actually like someone doing something fun 313 00:19:09,160 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: or interesting close up. It's always just like, let's just 314 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: have it be a little bit more quiet. But he 315 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:18,679 Speaker 1: has this line where he goes so beautiful, such a 316 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,199 Speaker 1: cool place to take pictures, which I think is a 317 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 1: really kind of interesting frame for a photograph of your 318 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: book to talk about a place as being a place 319 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 1: to take pictures, Like there's this like and I don't 320 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 1: think a lot of people that's very like because this 321 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: was just the beginning of Instagram, where it's like yeah, yeah, 322 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:42,080 Speaker 1: you go to a place to take picture. It's this 323 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: solop sysm where it's like you want to see yourself. 324 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:49,719 Speaker 1: We only want to see ourselves seeing ourselves. It's like 325 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: when there's a beautiful sunset in Manhattan and the road 326 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 1: is immediately clogged with everyone raising their phones to the 327 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: sky like there so that we can all go home 328 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: and look at that photo on Instagram that you this 329 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:08,199 Speaker 1: girl you went to uc B with, and you're just 330 00:20:08,320 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: and you're seeing Sarah from UCB like sketch two A one, 331 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:15,879 Speaker 1: like with her sunset and winds or terrorists and you're like, wow, 332 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 1: slightly different angle from And also I always try to 333 00:20:20,680 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 1: like get out of this closed disease that I feel 334 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:26,760 Speaker 1: like I have. I mean, I think everyone does this 335 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: where clothes a clothing disease of it's a fantasy, you know, 336 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: of the fantasy where when you really want a piece 337 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: of clothing, or you imagine all the things you think 338 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 1: about how it's going to look in the Instagram, you're 339 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 1: going to be not on the Instagram. Just be I 340 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: personally for not me on the Instagram, Like just more 341 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 1: doing it, like you myself laughing at an outdoor bar, 342 00:20:49,800 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: walking down the street, at a part of you chatting 343 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: with someone. Well, this is part of our post social 344 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: media culture as we see we are already our own 345 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,480 Speaker 1: app guitars. We're sort of playing a video game of ourselves, 346 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: and so we see ourselves walking around in the third 347 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: person almost and we're always kind of having this simming ourselves. 348 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,880 Speaker 1: We're simming ourselves, We're seeing this bird's eye view. I mean, 349 00:21:11,080 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: when I'm trying that an outfit on. Honestly, I'm often 350 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: that's what I'm looking for. Often I will I'll try 351 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,880 Speaker 1: out some dialogue in the mirror, just to see how 352 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: it does, see how it feels. Oh wow. I mean, 353 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 1: I'm not surprised you talked to yourself twenty four second, 354 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: but I'll be you know, I'll try the cardigan, just 355 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: be like, oh wait, seriously, you know, just like does 356 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: it does it feel natural? Does the cardigan fit in conversation? Oh? 357 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:43,919 Speaker 1: Is it a tap? Or do I put in my card? Yeah? 358 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 1: I'll have a Do you have any specials today? Yeah? 359 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 1: Oh I would love to hear your specials. Yea. We 360 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: actually haven't dined her before. A photo just opened up 361 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: here and it's oh my god, spirit, it's present. You 362 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: opened the photo. The photo it's his brother Romeo, and 363 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: I was like, when I looked at that photo, I 364 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: was like, this is like it's very fashioned, but it's 365 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:16,440 Speaker 1: like his brother, like looking so British but like to 366 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,199 Speaker 1: even be only he's twinky, but also like buff and 367 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: scary at the same time, and he's like eleven and 368 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 1: has this really thin gold chain, and it's just this 369 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 1: whole book is so dreamers because then yeah, so after 370 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: that to kind of go back into how he's in 371 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:34,159 Speaker 1: love with his mom his this is like where it 372 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: gets really Instagram filter. The photo of Victoria Beckham and 373 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: they're on their way to a charity a quote unquote 374 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: and Kenya together. It's so Harry and Megan this because 375 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: they're always in Africa and they're always been inspired by elephant, 376 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: but yet they say, this is so crazy, he said. 377 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: Brooklyn Beckham. With the really dark photos of elephants he takes, 378 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: he says, elephants so hard to photograph. Now, I would 379 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: actually argue, and I've never taken a photograph of an elephant, 380 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:07,160 Speaker 1: that elephants are actually of the easier animals to photograph. 381 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: On the certary, They're they're huge, they moved pretty slowly, 382 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: they're kind of docile, they just kind of stand there. 383 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 1: It's also it's just like it's such an obvious subject. 384 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:18,920 Speaker 1: It's not like, oh, where is it in the shot. 385 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: It's like it's not some bird in that. It's just 386 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:24,119 Speaker 1: like it's literally an elephant, Like girl. They're walking pretty 387 00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: so like get cheetah. Yeah, you need like such an 388 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: insane like high speed lens for that so hard to photograph. 389 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 1: That's just kind of an insane thing to say. But 390 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, challenges come in many shapes and forms, and 391 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: like for him, if that was a challenge, then like 392 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: I don't want to take that experience away per se. 393 00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: But yeah, the photo in the car, it's very it's 394 00:23:47,080 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: very close up, it's very blurry. And then there's that 395 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: other and that's when he says she's so beautiful. There's 396 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 1: that photo where he's wearing the sunglasses that are Victoria 397 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: Beckham brand and calls them and he's just like, uh like, 398 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: well no, He's like, I love my v B sunglasses. 399 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 1: He goes rocking my VB. So proud of my mum, 400 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: and it's just like he's so proud of her for 401 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: making these insanely normal, like slightly circular sunglasses. This is 402 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: where he's uh so for those of you who can't see, 403 00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: which is everywhere you're not reading along with us, So 404 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,719 Speaker 1: this photo is it's kind of at an crazy angle. 405 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 1: It's like he's turned himself and the camera so that 406 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,919 Speaker 1: this door behind him is at like a fully forty 407 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:29,879 Speaker 1: five degree angle. But then he's straight on who he's 408 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,159 Speaker 1: wearing a backwards cap, hands very close to frame. You 409 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: can see this jewelry. And then of course the like 410 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: a photo, his face is in focus the camera like 411 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 1: a camera is not, and he's looking kind of justin Bieber. 412 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,400 Speaker 1: He's looking kind of Kristen Stewart, which is another theme 413 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 1: in this book, which is the intense kind of like 414 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 1: very cleaning butch lesbian. But yes, well it's where he 415 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:58,880 Speaker 1: it's his whole outfits are like skinny joggers, huge hoodie 416 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,719 Speaker 1: as natrical hair, yeah, which is which is also what 417 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:08,520 Speaker 1: is so And then like Big Adda's flap rim I'm 418 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:12,360 Speaker 1: just like you are about to like ruin a FAM's 419 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: life in Tampa, ruin my life. Please. 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Yeah, it's very like 458 00:27:55,400 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 1: the only queer photo project that's ever happened. Happen looking 459 00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: for people in their bedroom and I'm gonna photograph you 460 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: looking slightly spell an ID magazine is going to be 461 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: like the photographer breaking boundaries. And it's just like this 462 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: guy kind of looking off to the side with his 463 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 1: long hair and his like filled in eyebrows and and 464 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: and Brooklyn goes, we had to jump over a hedge 465 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: into a stranger's garden to take this picture living on 466 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:28,000 Speaker 1: the edge. It's like he's also such a fucking mild ass, 467 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: like fake, Okay, I feel like he's being fake because 468 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: that part who the part with is someone spooking to 469 00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: sat He goes smoking, but I love the way it 470 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,280 Speaker 1: lights the face. Oh it looks so cool, but I 471 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: know it's horrible for you. Well, aren't Like I feel 472 00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: like that also is he's still close with his parents 473 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 1: and they're like, it's bad for your skin and just 474 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: like the youth from a wellness perspective. Yeah, But then 475 00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: and then he sees the other guy. When he sees 476 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: that guy drinking on the street in New York City 477 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: and he's like, this guy was drinking rosette. It's so bad, 478 00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:07,160 Speaker 1: so random? Why are you us? Like he says random 479 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaker 1: so much and the guy it's not. It gets like 480 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: you from England where people are fucking drinking the street. 481 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,560 Speaker 1: And the funniest part about that call you at random 482 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: is like it was just like the most kind of 483 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: like middle age East village like gay guy silver hair, 484 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: like how many a glass of Rosanna's stupid? It wasn't 485 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 1: like being he wasn't being like, oh, these guys were 486 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: drinking forties, Like it was random. He's like, it was 487 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Speaker 1: so random. I saw one man drink wine. I had 488 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: a photographic. Well, this is this thing of European people 489 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 1: being like so impressed and amazed by New York City grit. 490 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: It's like every time my French friends come here and 491 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,960 Speaker 1: and it's just like it's actually discussed. But that's I 492 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: love that. You love that. No, when your dear French 493 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: friends we were in the car driving that. We were 494 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: literally at the gorgeous corner of Bushwaker av And Myrtle Avenue, 495 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: and she was like, ah, can you slow down? It 496 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: is so beautiful over here, Like it is so gorgeous. 497 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: It's like truly as one of those disgusting intersect. She's like, 498 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: oh my god. But like for a like white Rich 499 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: Street photographer, Myrtle Broadway like is the dream because it's 500 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,480 Speaker 1: just like there are people like doing drugs, and there's 501 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: doing drugs, and there's furniture on the street and there's trashodegas. 502 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately he is very like the classic photography 503 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,720 Speaker 1: trope of just like decay, and it's like he's like 504 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,120 Speaker 1: and like the most inspiring trip he takes us too. 505 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: Of course with me cony. I'm well, okay, but I 506 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: was gonna say this, I wouldn't say this whole book. 507 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,959 Speaker 1: It's like he only I discovers the idea of photography 508 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: decay and homeless people at the end. Yeah, and that's 509 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,440 Speaker 1: when his photography starts to get way more Airbnb. And 510 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: it's like he goes to Paris, he takes a picture 511 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: of that fence with locks on it, like, which is 512 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: like the most cheesy, Like I feel like you could 513 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: see that framed in like any Airbnb now, like anywhere 514 00:31:17,720 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: in the world is like a fence with locks on it. 515 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: And then like it's like two guys who are kind 516 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: of like drunk outside of a locked bodega, like in 517 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: a shirt that says like I'm not an alcoholic, I'm 518 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,520 Speaker 1: a drunk. Another guy that like does look like slightly 519 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,760 Speaker 1: possibly homeless that he's like, this guy looks so happy, 520 00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: How amazing that is? Like he truly goes like I 521 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,800 Speaker 1: would say most of the book is like here's my 522 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 1: hot parents were on vacation. Then he's like, wait a second, whoa, whoa, whoa, 523 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 1: I just got a photo assignment that says, go summer 524 00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: you've never been. Yeah, and photographic, Like it's very like 525 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,160 Speaker 1: gotta and why you you, I'm gonna tell He's like, 526 00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ride the metro all the way to 527 00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: last stop. So I got off and he was Coney Arnland, 528 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: Oh the way to beach. Yeah. Ultimately, I prefer the 529 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 1: photography that's like, here's my hot mom. I'm obviously horny 530 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: for I prefer because it's honest, this is my hot mom. 531 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: Well honest. I think one thing I do really like 532 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 1: about this book is I think in his absolute um 533 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: just let's just say it, kind of his his simple, 534 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 1: simple brain, his straightforward, simple brain. He kind of like 535 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: blows the doors off of like what a lot of 536 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: good photography is with just like yes, because it's like 537 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: there's there's the scene where okay, when he gets that 538 00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 1: um the photo of the guy on the on guy 539 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: Richie's film set here, so it's this, So it's closs 540 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 1: a photo. So this photo do you see this? So 541 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: it's like this it's really could be a National geographic 542 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: absolutely or like New York Times magazine. It's very close 543 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 1: to portraiture. We've got this guy with scriggly hair and 544 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,760 Speaker 1: like you know, wearing a sweater and like lines on 545 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: his face kind of furrowing his brow, making like a 546 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 1: you can't tell if he's happier sad face, and this 547 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: he goes. I took this on the set of Guy 548 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: Richie's movie King Arthur. I got talking to this man. 549 00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: He was so interesting. He builds film sets and he's 550 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: got an amazing face. So I asked to fuck a 551 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: photograph him and he agreed. I love this image. You 552 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: can't tell what he's thinking, but you know he has 553 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 1: a great story. It's lasted with you can't tell what 554 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: he's thinking. Yeah, it's like, well, yeah, I'm not talking 555 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: to him, so yeah, photographers And it's literally it's like 556 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: he's basically just been like so he's old, but he 557 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,640 Speaker 1: has long hair and he's wrinkled, and it's like, this 558 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: is literally what everyone thinks good portraiture is. It's just like, 559 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: what if it's a photo of an old guy and 560 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: you like put flash on them so you can really 561 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: see their wrinkles. I honestly will say I also, again 562 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,400 Speaker 1: not back to Romeo, but I'm just like, there's a 563 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: photo of his brother holdingwers looking sad, and isn't this 564 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: so like that is fully like queer photography that I'm 565 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 1: actually seeing, like at a show at a gallery that 566 00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: people And also, couldn't it be like jaw Dar Muslim 567 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: queer youth taken into Jakastan. Yes, like these are flowers 568 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 1: for his boyfriend. They can only meet indoor us. What 569 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 1: you're saying could not be more accurate. I wanted to 570 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 1: go back though, to kind of an update on Brooklyn 571 00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:38,480 Speaker 1: and Victoria's relationship, because now this is giving me this 572 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 1: book that was came out. Are you about to bring 573 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: in like outside gossipy text, Lily? Is this allowed? No? 574 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,359 Speaker 1: This is kind of building on what's happening right now 575 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: with Brooklyn Beckham and Victory Beckham's relationship and referencing the book, 576 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,879 Speaker 1: if I may, um, if you'll allow that, sir so. 577 00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:05,719 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone followed the Brooklyn Beckham jerrama 578 00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:09,160 Speaker 1: where he just got married to a woman who is 579 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,359 Speaker 1: in like she's in, Oh, she's in that show the 580 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,000 Speaker 1: Bates Motel, like on A and E or something. She's 581 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 1: an actress. She's an actress and Victoria Beckham wanted her 582 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,200 Speaker 1: to wear a quote unquote VB dress for her wedding 583 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 1: and she refused. Wow, go off. Yeah, So and VB 584 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: is pretty pissed. Also, I think Brooklyn and his new 585 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: wife are like not going home for the holidays to 586 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,920 Speaker 1: the David in Victoria's house. So Victoria hates this bitch, 587 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: and it's like, now it makes so much sense because 588 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: like because they had such an edible relationship, so of 589 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,040 Speaker 1: course she's gonna be so competitive with the daughter, right 590 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: and be like it's bait. It is the like idea 591 00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 1: when someone gets married and they're like, oh, I'm losing 592 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: my son, yeah, because they're like, we broke up. So 593 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: I feel like, obviously that is why Victoria is so pised, 594 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,919 Speaker 1: and no wonder this Bates Motel actress like is like, no, 595 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: I have to like herself. She's yeah. It's like she's 596 00:36:16,000 --> 00:36:17,880 Speaker 1: not gonna be like, oh no, it's fine. I'll just 597 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,560 Speaker 1: wear the mother's dress and I'll actually like, um where 598 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 1: the mother is like makeup line, and I'll cut my 599 00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:25,840 Speaker 1: hair to look like the mother, and I'll just change 600 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: my name to Victoria. I think that'll just be easier 601 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,279 Speaker 1: for everyone. It's like, yeah, no, it's just like I'm 602 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:33,640 Speaker 1: not gonna be you, you fucking psycho, like I'm gonna 603 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,320 Speaker 1: fuck your son. And he's gonna call me Bates Motel 604 00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:41,880 Speaker 1: girl or whatever my name is. It's not gonna be like, oh, Pash, 605 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: give it to me and we're gonna make like Gin 606 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,440 Speaker 1: and Tonics at home. Because so I Brooklyn Beckham. I 607 00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,239 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, I don't know what he's doing 608 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:55,480 Speaker 1: with his leger right now, but like he's fully shifted 609 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: to be a food influencer where like, yeah, I mean 610 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: the interest of just like taking photos of being on 611 00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:06,680 Speaker 1: vacation and then like having cocktails is not like it's 612 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: not a long walk, it's but now he's being like 613 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,840 Speaker 1: fully Instagram chef, like being like I'm going to teach 614 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: like my friend who's the SoundCloud rapper, like how to 615 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:21,080 Speaker 1: make the perfect steak. Yeah. Um, And I think that's 616 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: a great direction from I will say, So, I watched 617 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:27,320 Speaker 1: that video you sent me again outside research, like bringing 618 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: secondary sources to the primary text. I did notice that 619 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: he looks it was a very post pandemic, like, oh, 620 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:38,720 Speaker 1: y'all bet inside, y'all been not missing meals at home 621 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: with with Bates Motel. No. I yeah, I mean he's 622 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: he said in like the steak video I watched that 623 00:37:47,360 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: he eats a steak every night. Okay, that is not healthy. Yeah, 624 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: calling it out, it's not healthy. So and yeah, I 625 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: could checks a huge steak with butter and then like 626 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: they're having like Forgein and Tonics, which he referred to 627 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,439 Speaker 1: as a experiment. Him and his wife have like quote 628 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: unquote an experimental cocktail club. When he did this book, 629 00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:12,920 Speaker 1: I think he went to Parsons and he dropped out 630 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,960 Speaker 1: after one year because he got homesick. Oh I mean, 631 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like rich British girl, just like I'm going 632 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: to Parsons to study photography and I'm going to take 633 00:38:23,480 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 1: photos of my rich family, and then also going to Africa, 634 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: which was extremely inspiring for me, and it's like they'd 635 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,399 Speaker 1: ever go beyond that. It's just like it's very just 636 00:38:32,440 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 1: like I saw poor people and I was like that 637 00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:39,319 Speaker 1: was inspiring. And then he's doing some shirt because they're 638 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,399 Speaker 1: they're smiling fight stigma against AIDS and oh wait, yeah, 639 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: there's like a shot of like Posh wearing like an 640 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,240 Speaker 1: AIDS T shirt, like touching an elephant and just being 641 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:55,200 Speaker 1: nothing's more inspiring. So hard to photograph elephants. I guess. 642 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: Also this is time to come out as someone not 643 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:05,160 Speaker 1: getting into Parsons experience. Wait, I absolutely, oh no, Actually 644 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: I didn't even end up applying because I visited with 645 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,080 Speaker 1: a Parsons like person that came to my school and 646 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 1: like looked at my portfolio and she was like, so 647 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,440 Speaker 1: Parsons and mean and was just like, don't even apply here. 648 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 1: Oh okay. Yeah. She was like no, because again my 649 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: portfolio was a little more outsider art and yeah yeah, 650 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,640 Speaker 1: and it was like so matise like circle third grade 651 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:39,920 Speaker 1: and it was just being so crazy and scribbles and 652 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,399 Speaker 1: she was like listen, like this is kind of more 653 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: of a technical school for learning technical skills. And I 654 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: mean that was like like I did the stuff that 655 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,959 Speaker 1: I had to do to like I mean, you would 656 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,799 Speaker 1: not have lasted three days at Parsons. No, absolutely not. No. 657 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,839 Speaker 1: I was like applied because it's like, remember I did 658 00:39:56,840 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: this performance where I like were my mother's clothes and 659 00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: took photos of it Brooklyn Beckham stuff. And then it 660 00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: was like but then I did have like your classic 661 00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,319 Speaker 1: like charcoal self portraits that you need to apply for 662 00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:10,040 Speaker 1: art school. But yeah, she was like this is a 663 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:15,279 Speaker 1: no um and you wanted to go for fashion design. Yeah, 664 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,560 Speaker 1: I mean that's insane as be no friend about Arabella 665 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: went to Parts and Fashions and it's like the most 666 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,480 Speaker 1: psychotic program ever where it's just like you're working thirty 667 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: hour days. Yeah, like cutting and pattern making. No, thank 668 00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 1: god I didn't go to Parsons, so I relate. Girls 669 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: are like girls are like sobbing and getting on the 670 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,759 Speaker 1: plane back to career. Like every single week at that 671 00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:48,520 Speaker 1: school sagments. What how she how she ate? Man? How 672 00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,720 Speaker 1: she how she lived? What's on her plate? Mane Okay, 673 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: I mean full English? Right? Have put English backfast beans? Yeah, 674 00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,239 Speaker 1: like full beans, sausage like Saturday. So what she eat? 675 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: Myte She's like straight up foodie myte but like Instagram 676 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:09,720 Speaker 1: foodie like she's she's doing. She's doing like that baked pasta. 677 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,480 Speaker 1: They always say pasta pasta yea and palmason and pasta 678 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:17,360 Speaker 1: like I think like Brooklyn is so carbone, like he's 679 00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 1: at home making and he got the recipe like from 680 00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:24,000 Speaker 1: the owner of Carbon Gold Belly. He's getting like the 681 00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 1: vodka David Chang like the caught a peppie like rum 682 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:34,919 Speaker 1: and roll like yeah, and then to my wife, Nicole, Okay, 683 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make you like David, I'm gonna make it 684 00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,080 Speaker 1: the moment fum, just for the two of us. Yeah, 685 00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 1: and then they're like throwing out half of it, like 686 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,799 Speaker 1: they're very like they and I do feel like, don't 687 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,279 Speaker 1: you think he's a little bit like their housekeeper is 688 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:52,800 Speaker 1: doing the prep and he's getting into the kitchen and everything. 689 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: The whole museum plasta is laid out. Everything is fully 690 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,720 Speaker 1: laid out, and like the bosm has already been cooking, 691 00:41:58,760 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: and he's just like, I make and both sometimes they're like, 692 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,120 Speaker 1: you're so crazy and ambitious, Brooklyn. It's just him like 693 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: assembling and there's like a little thing of chili plays 694 00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,960 Speaker 1: a little thing of like a Rosemary sea salt, and 695 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: he's like, so first you want to like salt. You know, 696 00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,640 Speaker 1: this is a New York strip, but first you want 697 00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:17,600 Speaker 1: to salt it really well. And then oh my god, 698 00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,600 Speaker 1: you're quite You're so tented to detail, Brooklyn. It's amazing. 699 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: I love you pursuing your passion for cooking um. And 700 00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:29,440 Speaker 1: then he's like making a little gem salad. But again, 701 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: like everything is kind of arranged. It all it's all 702 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,080 Speaker 1: pre arranged, mate, it's all meats on plastic're all ready 703 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: to go. I think he's absolutely like digging deep into nothing, 704 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:46,839 Speaker 1: fancy being like, Bibe, what what roma recipe you want? Mate? Tonight? Mate? 705 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,279 Speaker 1: I doubt it. I don't think he's got it. I 706 00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 1: think he's got Otto Langy on the shelf. I don't 707 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: think he's got Roman on the shelf. I think he. 708 00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: I mean, you don't think it's both like he's got 709 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:57,360 Speaker 1: up now he's got Jerusalem on the shelf, of course, 710 00:42:57,600 --> 00:43:02,400 Speaker 1: absolutely Jerusalem, absolutely momentou book. I think like silver palette, 711 00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:06,320 Speaker 1: like he has like some big like classics, the silver palette. 712 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,239 Speaker 1: I think it's like the big Italian one, because I 713 00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 1: think he's also like chefs, like major chefs like Jamie 714 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 1: Oliver or like he has like the signed copy that 715 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: is for David. But like he's not being so like 716 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:23,879 Speaker 1: cookbook cookbooks. It's more like chef's books, chef's book verse, 717 00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,560 Speaker 1: you mean, like a little more like chef forward, like 718 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 1: like like restaurant tour is like more of that kind 719 00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 1: of chef as opposed to like the als of Romans 720 00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: and the eider Gardens and like people who are more 721 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:40,439 Speaker 1: like oh I'm a foot but yeah, rather than like oh, 722 00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm more of like a celebrity chef. And this is 723 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 1: my cookbook. Um. And as we know, he write he 724 00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: makes Gin and tonics. Um, and it's like I'm experimenting 725 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 1: with cocktails. Yeah. So this amazing video where he's looking 726 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,800 Speaker 1: very well nourished, he makes this quote experimental Gin and Tonic. 727 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 1: That's Gin Monkey forty seven. First of all, he's a 728 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,279 Speaker 1: monkey girl. He's a monkey girl. Uh gin, oh that 729 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,360 Speaker 1: is the gent tonic. And then it's just like rosemary, 730 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,080 Speaker 1: mint and cucumber, and like that's actually beautiful that it 731 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,320 Speaker 1: looks delicious, but like any because he goes, I'm a nutta, 732 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: I'm a total nuta in the kitchen, as if it's 733 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:19,840 Speaker 1: insane that he's just putting like these herbs in this drink. Wait, 734 00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 1: can I actually call something for twenty twenty three. I'm 735 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:28,319 Speaker 1: listening Gin and Tonics are back, agreed out with a martini? 736 00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:33,640 Speaker 1: More Gin and Tonics. Okay, when this episode airs, hopefully 737 00:44:33,719 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: my earth shattering piece in the Martini will have come out. Um, 738 00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: well link to it, well, link to it in the 739 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: show page, and hopefully, uh yeah, it will be kind 740 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:44,880 Speaker 1: of like the end of an era and this heart 741 00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: of something new. But I think like Gin is going 742 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,160 Speaker 1: to carry over because people still like the floralness of it. Yeah, 743 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,000 Speaker 1: and like that's the you know, the complexity of it. Um. 744 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:55,759 Speaker 1: But yeah, I see Gin and Tonics making a big 745 00:44:55,800 --> 00:44:58,759 Speaker 1: comeback and you know, but like you know, with a 746 00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:05,320 Speaker 1: gorgeous Tonic realistic of Rosemary stunning, stunning things happening in there. 747 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: So I think he's um he Also, I guess I 748 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: feel like I saw this TikTok breakfast sandwich and I 749 00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,160 Speaker 1: feel like he's making it where you make this like 750 00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:18,799 Speaker 1: egg custard and it's like this perfect square and you're 751 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: getting like it's just everything. I feel he's like, oh, 752 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: I went to this bakery and I got this like 753 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: special Japanese butter row. But again it's the housekeeper like 754 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: making the custard and he's like beating the eggs maybe, 755 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:36,799 Speaker 1: and then she's doing the rest. Yeah, she's really doing 756 00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: a lot of her. I just like I'm reminded of 757 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:43,560 Speaker 1: my uh, this rich British friend that I had, you 758 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: may know, Yes, and one time I was at her 759 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:50,000 Speaker 1: house in the south of France and like we were 760 00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,040 Speaker 1: being like such like wasted, naughty, like rich girls, like 761 00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,600 Speaker 1: partying all night and like smoking in there. Like fourteenth 762 00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,319 Speaker 1: century Villa and then and it's like I'm sure, like 763 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: the whole house was like such a mess, and then 764 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:06,959 Speaker 1: like I get up and you come into the kitchen, 765 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,360 Speaker 1: it's like completely clean. There's like a massive spread of 766 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:12,479 Speaker 1: croissants from like the local bakery and just like every 767 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 1: kind of breakfast you guat and like picture of orange juice, 768 00:46:15,239 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: like already like decanted, movie decanted. It's so just like okay, 769 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,400 Speaker 1: and like the housekeeper who has actually lived at this 770 00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:26,080 Speaker 1: villa since the thirteen hundreds just like came and cleaned 771 00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,280 Speaker 1: up after the kids and fully like made a breakfast 772 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: bread and then you're touching one croissan she's like throwing 773 00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 1: all the rest of them away. Yeah, that is exactly 774 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: what's happening at his house every day. Oh okay, what 775 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,600 Speaker 1: does he wear? Did he notice out of his like 776 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 1: huge hoodie likes? Did you notice that he's wearing a 777 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:48,239 Speaker 1: tiny cross in one of the Yes I did. I 778 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 1: was actually Christian, I mean Vita Beckham, And yes, I 779 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,319 Speaker 1: mean Justin is very Christian. He's extreme Christian. And I 780 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: don't know, Brooklyn mustang out with Justin maybe they seems 781 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:04,320 Speaker 1: so similar to me. Brooklyn now I think is like 782 00:47:04,360 --> 00:47:08,799 Speaker 1: a little more just like Supreme ninety dollars sorry, four 783 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:13,400 Speaker 1: hundred dollars, like heavyweight white T shirt. It's like a 784 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,919 Speaker 1: little more he's a little more car Hart Whip. Now, yeah, 785 00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: you think he's that streetwear. I actually think he's he's 786 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: actually reverting to being less streetwear and like coming away 787 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 1: from being a skater now that he's more like I'm 788 00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: married in at home and I think he's just wearing 789 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: like random expensive British brands you haven't heard of that 790 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: are a little bit like Poland Bear and like Caskin Talon, 791 00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,760 Speaker 1: and he's just wearing this cask In Talon like button 792 00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,200 Speaker 1: down and like great great, like home Corduroys, really good 793 00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,560 Speaker 1: home quarters, which I also that's a twenty that's one 794 00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:53,399 Speaker 1: of my twenty twenty three goals for the winter home 795 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:56,160 Speaker 1: quarter roys. No, actually out of the home court roys. 796 00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,200 Speaker 1: You know what had really good corduroys was when I 797 00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: was at the Leaves outlet store at the outlet mall 798 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:05,920 Speaker 1: and Lee really Massachusetts, and it was like, oh no, 799 00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,880 Speaker 1: sorry note, uh wait was it Levi's or Jay Crew Chase? 800 00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:14,680 Speaker 1: Those those corduroys we saw were that that we liked. 801 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:17,839 Speaker 1: Was that Jay Crewe or Levi's when we were at 802 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 1: the outlet of mall because I saw a pair of 803 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,919 Speaker 1: j Crew, like Painter corduroy. It was it was Jay Crew. 804 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:25,880 Speaker 1: It was Jay Crew. Oh, I wonder if it was 805 00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: the ones. I almost bought a Black Friday and then 806 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 1: I said, like, Lily, don't buy anything. Oh, thank you. 807 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 1: There was some stuff there at Jay Crew that was 808 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,879 Speaker 1: very like, you know what, this is kinda nice. I'm 809 00:48:37,880 --> 00:48:42,760 Speaker 1: not kind of nice Jay Crew, kind of Knights. Okay, 810 00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,239 Speaker 1: we'll look back to um. I'll update you guys if 811 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 1: I get a pair of good outside of the homeys. Okay. 812 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,799 Speaker 1: And then finally, how does he live? Mate? How does 813 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: he live? I mean I think the kitchen island. I 814 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,399 Speaker 1: mean I've seen it on his videos, so I guess 815 00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: it's cheating, like it's just it goes on forever. Uh, 816 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:09,080 Speaker 1: but that's obviously. I think he's big velvet marble or 817 00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,520 Speaker 1: is it court? Oh? So I think it's marble. It 818 00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,319 Speaker 1: does seem a little bit more like old fashioned. I 819 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:20,080 Speaker 1: also think he is a little his refrigeration, I think 820 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 1: it's like underneath like maybe he does have a big subsera, 821 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,880 Speaker 1: but he also has drawers fridge drawers. Absolutely, there's fridge 822 00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,080 Speaker 1: drawers full of beverages, which is just like the chicest 823 00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,759 Speaker 1: thing in the world. One day. Um yeah, I think 824 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,000 Speaker 1: there's like a framed photo that like someone got for him, 825 00:49:37,080 --> 00:49:41,919 Speaker 1: like of himself like on a skateboard. Maybe. I guess 826 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,919 Speaker 1: the question is like, is he so rich hobby girl, 827 00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:47,640 Speaker 1: like does he have any of his photography framed? Or 828 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:50,600 Speaker 1: is he like really embarrassed of it. No, that's what 829 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: I'm saying. I think like he has a couple of 830 00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:55,600 Speaker 1: the frames and it was like it was like a 831 00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 1: gift from his dad being like Brooklyn, I framed I 832 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,680 Speaker 1: believe you your photo of me taking a photo of you. 833 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 1: I framed it, like and it's your Christmas present. And 834 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,640 Speaker 1: he's like, Dad, it's thank you so much. This is aces, 835 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 1: this is tops, it's heap stops, heap stops. Um. Yeah. 836 00:50:18,560 --> 00:50:20,719 Speaker 1: And there's just like a photo like of his dad 837 00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,520 Speaker 1: taking a photo of him with a like of like 838 00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:24,719 Speaker 1: in a mirror in the bathroom. And I think he 839 00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:27,360 Speaker 1: has like in one of his rooms also like tons 840 00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,359 Speaker 1: of copies of this. Here's the thing about him being 841 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 1: high bed verse low bed. I'm actually think I want 842 00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: to say he's low because like he is like kind 843 00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 1: of sexy. But then I'm also like, it's very English 844 00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 1: to have like such a tufted ass high bed, and 845 00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,160 Speaker 1: I could see him jacking it up there. I don't 846 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,560 Speaker 1: know if, but ultimately your immunobates are are like it's low, 847 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,600 Speaker 1: it's low. And they spent a lot of time in 848 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: Los Angeles like growing up, so yeah, I think it's low, 849 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,200 Speaker 1: and tons of time in Napa too. Oh yeah, he 850 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 1: loves now. But I think, just to add to the 851 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: I do think he's like, oh bye, I'm going to 852 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:08,480 Speaker 1: open up the ninety eight baro of Well. I guess 853 00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,279 Speaker 1: he's so. I feel like he is natty a little bit, 854 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: and she'd we don't like that one. She's like really 855 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:18,200 Speaker 1: really like not posh in my mind with Bates motality, 856 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:23,359 Speaker 1: she's like she's British and she's like, I think she's American. Work, Oh, 857 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: get out of town. She's just probably why the drama. 858 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:29,040 Speaker 1: I think she's some fucking basic American. It's just like 859 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: every British dynasty there has to be like the way 860 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:33,400 Speaker 1: where child goes and marries an American and fox the 861 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:38,919 Speaker 1: whole thing up. I will also say that I give 862 00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:45,480 Speaker 1: this book, um hmm, hard to say. It takes you 863 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,359 Speaker 1: out of dirty for sure. Um, and it's almost wanting 864 00:51:49,360 --> 00:51:52,000 Speaker 1: to get real quickly. I don't I'm like not tempted 865 00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,279 Speaker 1: to really spend that much more time with it. I 866 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: will say, yeah, I'm gonna give it. Okay. Look the 867 00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 1: photo Victoria Beckham salmon fishing in an amazing outfit, like 868 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 1: the graillery in her salmon fishing outfit is pretty epic. 869 00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:07,680 Speaker 1: And she's just wearing these sunglasses and you know, it's 870 00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: like it's she looks cool. It's kind of like arc 871 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:12,200 Speaker 1: Terra because like it's like this, but it's like I 872 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:15,440 Speaker 1: kind of wine. She's wears fingerless gloves and then she's 873 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,480 Speaker 1: got these kind of thick waiting pants. It's a dopas. 874 00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:21,920 Speaker 1: I'll say this, that photo I would pay one hundred 875 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:29,080 Speaker 1: thousand dollars for. But huge one point five charity trips 876 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 1: to Kenya out of five. Yeah, I have to sort 877 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,719 Speaker 1: of like agree. I think I'm gonna give this book 878 00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:39,960 Speaker 1: two out of five. Very difficult to photograph elephants. Ultimately, 879 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,680 Speaker 1: I appreciate that he is letting us in on his 880 00:52:43,360 --> 00:52:47,560 Speaker 1: family's life. His family trips unable and the vulnerability that 881 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:50,879 Speaker 1: he said that it is hard to photograph elephants. But 882 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,840 Speaker 1: and I like that there's that there was an attempt 883 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: at a concept here with like you know, the color 884 00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 1: it's like mostly back in white, with just like some 885 00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: you know a little bit of like a gel over 886 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,319 Speaker 1: some of them, like the blue or the pink. But 887 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 1: and then the space scene. You know, there was some 888 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 1: effort made here. It doesn't feel like a total cash grab. 889 00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:12,040 Speaker 1: It really done. And it's with Rossoli, which was like 890 00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: an art book, you know, so he really did go 891 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 1: after what he wanted at the time. Like this to 892 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,560 Speaker 1: me almost feels like a little more original than him 893 00:53:21,600 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: being just this like random TikTok like food guy. I agree. 894 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 1: So a lot of celebrity kids out there, they could 895 00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,400 Speaker 1: grab a camera, but are they going to go ahead 896 00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:33,279 Speaker 1: and make this book and the Rosoli book. No they're not, 897 00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,719 Speaker 1: they're not. So Good job, Brooklyn, Good job, Brooklyn. I'm 898 00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,080 Speaker 1: so proud of you, one of my favorite sons. Let's 899 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,479 Speaker 1: all go have sex as a family and art. Yeah, 900 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,080 Speaker 1: please invite me to NAPA for your family orgy. 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