1 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Chris Hary with you on a new episode 2 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,119 Speaker 1: of Chargers Weekly. A bit later, Eric at Home of 3 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:22,439 Speaker 1: Yahoo's Sports is going to join me. We'll get his 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: take on some of these NFL draft prospects in which 5 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: available players may have Pro Bowl potential when the Chargers 6 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,240 Speaker 1: selected number twenty eight. But first I caught it with 7 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: Jeff Miller of the La Times. I got his reaction 8 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: to the Chargers local Pro Day on Thursday and the 9 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,160 Speaker 1: recently released preseason schedule. All right here at the Hohope 10 00:00:41,159 --> 00:00:44,959 Speaker 1: Performance Center with Jeff Miller, La Times and Jeff. It's 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,240 Speaker 1: been a while since we've been on the grass. I 12 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 1: know it was just the local Pro Day, but it 13 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: was funny to get out there. It was nice. I 14 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 1: gotta admit I woke up this morning actually anxious, sort 15 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:56,560 Speaker 1: of eager to get out here, which I didn't think 16 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: would be possible. But yeah, it was nice to, you know, 17 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:00,720 Speaker 1: kind of get back back in a little bit of 18 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 1: a football mode. This has been a long draft evaluation process. 19 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: I was with you at the Combine. Before that, it 20 00:01:08,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: was a Senior Bowl. You have free agency, you have 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: these pro days, so a lot leading up to the 22 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:16,720 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks and just for people that may 23 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: not know this local pro day. It's UCLA, USC San 24 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Diego State. A lot of guys that are are local 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 1: at local schools, but also guys that are from LA 26 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: that may have gone to other schools like I saw 27 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 1: Duke Colorado or Louisville on the list. So it's an 28 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: opportunity for a lot of these guys who are probably 29 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: late round, undrafted free agent types to make an impression. 30 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: But there were some pretty big names Camera Smith, linebacker USC, 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: and then Caleb Wilson, the tighter from UCLA and attendance. Yeah, 32 00:01:45,160 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: what's really interesting about this, Chris, especially with the Chargers. 33 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: You think about the success they've had with undrafted guys 34 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 1: over the years, something like this, You know, there, we're 35 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 1: out there, I don't know how many guys are out there, 36 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty five guys and you don't really know what 37 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: any of this means. But for one of those guys, 38 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: or a couple of those guys, this could have been 39 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: a huge day for them. Maybe they've opened some eyes 40 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: doubt and you know, maybe now that you know the 41 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: Chargers brass are going back up to their offices and 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: with a list and say, hey, these three guys are 43 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 1: they're undrafted. These are going to be three three the 44 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: first calls are gonna make at the end of the draft. 45 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:20,320 Speaker 1: And so it's it's one of these things where you 46 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: don't know if it means anything, but ultimately it could 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: be a huge thing for some guys and in some 48 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: cases maybe it doesn't make any difference at all. But 49 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: it's it's fun to fun to sort of watch and 50 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 1: just watch the thing unfold, you know, Jeff a year ago, 51 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I remember it very vividly too, because they do this 52 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: every year. You Chenna Nwosu was here last year. He 53 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: didn't work out, but he was here talking to the coaches. 54 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 1: It was almost kind of like a visit of sorts. 55 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Scott Quisenberry was working out here. So going into that, like, 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 1: you have no idea if any of these guys are 57 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: going to be drafted or or picked up as undrafted 58 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:56,320 Speaker 1: free agents. Two of the seven draft picks were at 59 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: this local pro day. So it's little things like this 60 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: that that could mean a big deal. And you brought 61 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: up the undrafted free agent success just in general, the 62 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: Charges have had a lot of success in the draft, 63 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: and for these guys that's a golden opportunity to get 64 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 1: in front of these executives and the coaches. Oh exactly. 65 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: And I think you're right about I mean the Chargers. 66 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: You can you know, fans can be frustrated as much 67 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: as they want about any free agent moves that aren't 68 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:24,079 Speaker 1: being made or that are being made. I think it's 69 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: you know, that's such a the free agency myth. It's like, oh, 70 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: people aren't doing enough for free agency. You know why 71 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: they're not doing enough for free agency because they've drafted 72 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,840 Speaker 1: well yeah, depth that a lot of positions and they're 73 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: not using it as a primary tool. So when I 74 00:03:38,640 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: when I hear it's like, oh, the charge you need 75 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: to do this and that. Now they want to take 76 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,839 Speaker 1: care of their own guys. I thought what they did 77 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: with Thomas Davis and with Tyrod Taylor, you bring instability 78 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position behind Philip, you're bringing a leader 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: on defense. I think those are good moves. But you're 80 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 1: right the free agency thing. I think people get frustrated, 81 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: but you have to understand the full picture. Yeah, And 82 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: I think a day like this today, I think if 83 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 1: you're one of these guys that's here as you I 84 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 1: assume these guys kind of have some idea about what 85 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: the Chargers have done in the draft, what they've done 86 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 1: with undrafted guys, and so I think you you come 87 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: to something like this thinking, you know, these guys know 88 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing because their track record is really good. 89 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: And so I think as a as a player, as 90 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: an event like this, you're you'd probably show up here 91 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: pretty excited thinking that, you know, if I can impress 92 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,840 Speaker 1: these guys, it could lead to something either with this 93 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,360 Speaker 1: team or another team, just because of this team's track 94 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,359 Speaker 1: records in recent years, what they've done, you know, on 95 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,119 Speaker 1: you know, on that during those three days of the draft, 96 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: and then immediately after that and signing the undrafted guys 97 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: that they and this week has been a little bit 98 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:48,239 Speaker 1: busier than most weeks in the offseason. Obviously, next week 99 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: and the week after, we're not sure when the regular 100 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,000 Speaker 1: season schedule is going to come out. It typically comes 101 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: out in April, so we'll probably have to kind of 102 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: keep our eyes and ears peeled to see when that 103 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,920 Speaker 1: comes out. But the preseason schedule was released this week 104 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: and really no surprises from last year. It's the same 105 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: four opponents. I think the Saints and Seahawks, are swapped. 106 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: The Saints are coming back to training camp, and I 107 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: was just talking to you offline about this, Jeff. I 108 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 1: think I look at when I look at the preseason schedule, 109 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:17,480 Speaker 1: I look at weeks two and weeks three because those 110 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: are probably winning your starters and your second teams are 111 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: gonna play the most. And I see the two quarterbacks 112 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:26,159 Speaker 1: understander Russell Wilson and Drew Brees. It's a great test 113 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: for the defense. It should be. Yeah, Yeah, I think, uh, 114 00:05:29,160 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: And I guess the you know, the Chargers had a 115 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: really good season last year, and so why not have 116 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: the exact same ramp up to that type of the 117 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: way that way if it ain't a row, right, it 118 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: worked out pretty well, So I don't think they're too disappointed. 119 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,200 Speaker 1: I will admit when I saw it, I was underwhelmed, 120 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:45,039 Speaker 1: just because I think we just went through this same 121 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: were in San Francisco, you know whatever. That's okay, Uh, 122 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 1: But yeah, I think I think you're right. If I 123 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: remember right, Drew Brees did not play last year in 124 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 1: that game or did he play very little? You know 125 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: what he played? He played because when picked them off. 126 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:03,359 Speaker 1: That's okay, but he played very little. Yeah, And that 127 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:06,040 Speaker 1: was because of the joint practices. It was it's very 128 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: prayer to have joint practices leading up to that preseason 129 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: game because that's usually the dress rehearsal. But they got 130 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: so much good work in during that week with the 131 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: with the first teamers of the Saints that the third 132 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: game was a little bit more unconventional. Yeah. Yeah, but 133 00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: I think you're right. I think you're exactly right with 134 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: uh you it's good to see good opponents and good quarterbacks. Uh. 135 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: You know, the defense is going to get a really 136 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 1: good look as much as they can, as much as 137 00:06:32,120 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: Wilson plays. And then, as you said in those practices, 138 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: against against Brees will be uh, you know, you'd rather 139 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: go you know, you'd rather have that. I think if 140 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: you're if you're on the defense, you'd rather go against that, 141 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: then go against And I won't name any quarterbacks who 142 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: aren't as a lesser caliber, but you know we won 143 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: a super Bowl ring Yeah, in their careers. And if 144 00:06:55,120 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 1: you can make a play on Drew Brees, and I 145 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,240 Speaker 1: don't care if it's whatever practice, whatever it is, that's 146 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,479 Speaker 1: year you've made a good play. Because you know, we 147 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: all know about the career that he's had and how 148 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,600 Speaker 1: accurate he is and he doesn't throw many interceptions of 149 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: making any mistakes, so when you can make a play 150 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: on him, and you know you've seen those joint practices 151 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: are competitive. I mean they get after it. And so 152 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: about the joint practice with the Saints, it never crossed 153 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 1: the line. They were just both teams are super competitive. 154 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: The coaches know each other from their time in Dallas, 155 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 1: and the Saints were a call away from going to 156 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. So it's it's it's a 157 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: team that is one of the elite teams in this league, 158 00:07:33,200 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: and to host them for a week, it's just gonna 159 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: make your team better. Yeah, exactly. And you know, I 160 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,160 Speaker 1: think the Saints they should have been in the Super Bowls. 161 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Let's be honest about that. But but yeah, I think 162 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: you're right. Elo. Last year. I wasn't around the team 163 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: two years ago, but I know last year there was 164 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't remember there being any incidents of anything. I 165 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 1: do remember that both teams kind of getting after each other, uh, playfully. 166 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: It's been the spirit of Remember the defenses were doing 167 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: the trip of the post thing. Yeah, and that was 168 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 1: the thing where maybe some guys can get a little 169 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: hot about that. But I think that that stayed cool 170 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 1: and everybody was good with that. And then of course 171 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:12,480 Speaker 1: Philip and Drew have the quarterback thing at the end, 172 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 1: like the which and of course they both have history 173 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: gone way back, and so I think it's a good arrangement. 174 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: I think both. I think it benefits both teams. Otherwise 175 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,920 Speaker 1: they wouldn't keep doing it. And now that we've said 176 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: all that, there'll be a big brawl this year, and 177 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: you went off, this will be like the foreshadow, We'll 178 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: go back to this clip when I have you on 179 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: during training camp. Yes, exactly, you know, you know, Jeff, 180 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: we always say it every year too. It's like you 181 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: never want to take these moments for granted. When you 182 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 1: see guys like Drew Brees and Philip Rivers on the 183 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 1: field together, and like even those quarterback competitions, it just 184 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:46,680 Speaker 1: the scrimmages in general. They get competitive, and you see 185 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: two guys who are going to be in the Hall 186 00:08:48,800 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: of Fame going back and forth. They shared a quarterbacks 187 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: room together in two thousand and four. And to see 188 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 1: both of their teams play at such a high level 189 00:08:57,120 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 1: this year, and to get to see that again, Lie 190 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: is gonna be a treat for fans, and it's fun 191 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 1: and I think you know, it's a different setting obviously 192 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: than a Sunday during the season, but it's you know, 193 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 1: you're close enough you can actually hear some of Phillips, 194 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: you know, some of the stuff. Yes that he's that 195 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: he's giving the defense and they're giving it right back. 196 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:17,920 Speaker 1: And and it's kind of cool to be able to 197 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, he doesn't have to be 198 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: miked up and you can actually hear it. So it's 199 00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: it's it is, it's fun and I think it's uh, 200 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 1: you just said it. I mean, what a great opportunity 201 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: to be able to watch that, you know from a 202 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 1: pretty Generally sometimes they can move a little further away 203 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 1: from the fans, but a lot of times that's pretty 204 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: You can get a real close up of kind of 205 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: a behind the scenes and what goes into preparing for 206 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: a season. And and you know you're watching two Hall 207 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: of Famers, you know, not going against each other per se, 208 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: but they're leading their their teams against the other team's defense. 209 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: Is that's that's you know that it's really cool to 210 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: be able to see that up close into in that setting. 211 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: It is and it gets me ramped up for training. 212 00:09:56,520 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: Can we're going in April? But two weeks from Thursday 213 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen NFL's Draft. This is something where just 214 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: speculation runs rampant. There's a lot of misinformation in the media. 215 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: The Chargers pick twenty eight overall, a good player is 216 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: going to be there. The strength of this draft is 217 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: defensive line. Last year you saw all these quarterbacks go 218 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: ahead of number seventeen overall, third when James falls in 219 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: laps of the Chargers. What do you think the Chargers 220 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,079 Speaker 1: need at number twenty eight overall? And really is it 221 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 1: just like a best available player situation in your eyes? Well, 222 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:38,000 Speaker 1: I think they. I think they need defense. They need 223 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: defensive I could see defensive lineman because that's a deep position. 224 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: It's a need they have right now sitting here, it 225 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: seems like that would be a logical, a logical place 226 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: to go. Now, it depends, of course who's there, right. 227 00:10:51,679 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: It cuts both ways, right, because if let's say, let's 228 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: just say like ten defensive linemen go, that means another 229 00:10:56,880 --> 00:11:01,520 Speaker 1: position he's gonna drop exactly, Or if other positions go, 230 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: you're gonna have depth of d line. So it really 231 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: twenty seven other teams to dictate what the chargers. Still. Yeah, 232 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:08,360 Speaker 1: I think when you're that far down in the first round, 233 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: you you're really uh, you know, you're really at the 234 00:11:13,000 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: mercy of these teams in front of you. It's in 235 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: terms of what you do. And they certainly know what 236 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: they want to do. I'm sure they have their priorities, 237 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: and it's uh, they know, you know, they've probably tried 238 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: to play out every scenario you can and to be 239 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: prepared for when their time comes up on that clock. 240 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: But uh, you really have to wait and see what happens. 241 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 1: And we don't know you you said it. It's there's 242 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,480 Speaker 1: so much misinformation, and you know, look at what's happening 243 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 1: in reality show now it really is. And look what's 244 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,319 Speaker 1: happening in Arizona right now with the with Murray and 245 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 1: and you know, and if are they gonna take them, 246 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: they're not going to take them. They're they're you know, 247 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: one one minute they're locked in, there's no question they're 248 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: gonna take them. The next minute they're talking to another guy, 249 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: and oh my goodness, what does that mean? So uh, 250 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 1: until it actually happens, and until the you know, the 251 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:00,439 Speaker 1: name is read off, you don't really know, you're not 252 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 1: a hard percent sure what's going to happen, and a 253 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: lot of it is just contingent and what takes place 254 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: in front of him, and I my guest sitting here 255 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: right now is I think they'll end up with the 256 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:13,080 Speaker 1: defensive lineman only because that's a that's a really deep 257 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: position and it's one that they could use some help. Yeah, 258 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: and they probably get a good one they should. Yeah. 259 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 1: I look at the draft last year, and when James 260 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: was an All pros rookie year, you chanted in the 261 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 1: woes who had that strip sack in the playoff game, 262 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 1: Justin Joe and started that game. Kaiser White was starting 263 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: linebacker to start the year. Justin Jackson made big plays 264 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:34,640 Speaker 1: down the stretch in Pittsburgh and Kansas City. So there 265 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:36,960 Speaker 1: are guys that we don't know yet that are going 266 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: to contribute to this roster twenty nineteen. Oh absolutely, And 267 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: you mentioned Kaiser White. I mean that who knows what 268 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: he would have brought last year if he had stayed healthy. 269 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: And he looks the part, Jeff, Oh, he does, and 270 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: I mean you know he you know, it's not a 271 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: minor thing to be starting in the NFL that quickly 272 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: and he was. He just you know, he took over 273 00:12:56,080 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: that position, and so I think they I'm really interested 274 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: to see how he's doing. We haven't talked to him 275 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: in a while. I think that's a guy who you 276 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: have to be excited about if you're you know, if 277 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: you're a fan of this team, because I mean, what 278 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: he the potential that he showed and then you know, 279 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: his season was cut so short. We don't we you know, 280 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: we kind of got a glimpse of him and that 281 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: was it. But yeah, you're right about the draft that 282 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,040 Speaker 1: you just you know you're gonna get guys. There will 283 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 1: there there will be guys who will be talking about 284 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: next year who we are aren't a part of this 285 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: team right now, and we don't we don't know who 286 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: they're gonna be, uh, you know, for a couple more 287 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: weeks here, but uh, there's no question that, especially with 288 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: this team and what they've done in the draft, you 289 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: know they're gonna get guys who multiple guys who are 290 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: going to have an impact next season. And the guys 291 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 1: that are here. Uh. Phase one of the offseason workout 292 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: program starts on Monday. Again it's really it's working out, 293 00:13:51,840 --> 00:13:53,800 Speaker 1: but at least it's here. At least we have something 294 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: to talk about. Jeff, Yeah, exactly. Well, even today out 295 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: on the field out there is Denzel Perryman, right, isn't 296 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 1: available to officially talk to us, but but it was 297 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 1: good to see him back out there. He looked incredibly 298 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: lean to me, like I didn't know it was him 299 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 1: from behind because he looked too skinny, frankly, But so 300 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: I think he's in great shape from what I understand, 301 00:14:14,200 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 1: he's he's looked good and some of the drills he's 302 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: been able to do. But that's a guy who, Yeah, 303 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: it's it's it's exciting to get a chance to talk 304 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: to him again and see where where he is and 305 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: see where his head is. And I'm sure he's pretty 306 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 1: excited about you know, he's back, he's in place, he's familiar, 307 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: and we know how much of these guys value what 308 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: he brings. So I'm assuming he's going to be excited. 309 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,080 Speaker 1: Hopefully we get a chance to talk to him Monday. 310 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if that's gonna happen or not, but 311 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: just to see a guy like that back and to 312 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: see him kind of getting back into football mode is 313 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: it's pretty cool. Jeff Miller Elie Times. Your counterparts have 314 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: been pretty busy in El Segundo and Staples Center. What 315 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: do you have going on over the next couple of weeks. 316 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: I'm going to be doing a lot of offseason Charger 317 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: work on so and I couldn't be happier. I love it. 318 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: All right, a big thanks to Jeff Miller. Before we 319 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 1: get into my conversation with Yahoo's Eric Adholme, a reminder 320 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: that the Chargers are hosting a draft party at the 321 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: Santa Monica Pier Thursday, April twenty five. It's from four 322 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 1: to nine pm and tickets are free. Just go to 323 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: Chargers dot com get your free tickets. It's gonna be 324 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: a blast. You get to watch the entire NFL Draft 325 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:24,640 Speaker 1: on giant led screens. Current Charger players are gonna be there, 326 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: alumni is gonna be there, autograph opportunities. ABC's Ashley Brewer's 327 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: gonna host. I'm gonna be in the mix as well. 328 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: A huge party. You don't want to miss it. Thursday 329 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 1: April twenty fifth, four to nine pm. Get your free 330 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: tickets on Chargers dot com. All right, two weeks out 331 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 1: from the twenty nineteen NFL Draft. Please be joined by 332 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: Eric Edholm of Yahoo's Sports. He's all over the draft. Eric. 333 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate you joining me, man. How are you. I'm 334 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: doing well? Great. Yeah, we're coming in here. We're almost 335 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 1: ready to land the plane here, and it's an exciting time. 336 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: It's about time, too, right. I feel like we've talked 337 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: about the drift here on this podcast for two plus months, 338 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: and right now I feel like we've kind of hit 339 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:07,080 Speaker 1: the lull. Right. There's no Pro Day, there's no Combine, 340 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 1: there's no Senior Bowl. It's more just like pure speculation. 341 00:16:11,600 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: So I'm curious to get your version of how you 342 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,120 Speaker 1: view this draft, specifically the first round, and feel free 343 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: to go as long as you want. Erica will kind 344 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,320 Speaker 1: of pick it up from there. Yeah. I mean, obviously, 345 00:16:22,360 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: I think you know, the the average fan, you know, 346 00:16:24,840 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: depending on what fan base we're talking about here, maybe 347 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:30,239 Speaker 1: the Chargers maybe not Necessarily you look at the quarterbacks 348 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: and you say, is it the sexiest group of all time? 349 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: Probably not? Are there some question marks with almost every 350 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,160 Speaker 1: single one of these guys? Yeah, and so it doesn't 351 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: match last year's hype for you know, what the twenty 352 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: twenty class might offer at that position. But you know, 353 00:16:44,880 --> 00:16:48,000 Speaker 1: I look at the d line talent, both the edge 354 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 1: guys and the interior guys. I look at some of 355 00:16:51,480 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: the offensive line talent, the tight end talent, it's it's 356 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: really deep at those positions. Wide receivers got some some 357 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: real depth to it as well. I don't know how 358 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 1: many go high in the draft, but day Day two 359 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 1: should be a receiver bonanza. And so I think there's 360 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: certain positions that look really really strong, you know, depth, 361 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: high end talent. You know, you might be able to 362 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: get an undrafted free agent of that position and do 363 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: well for yourself. And then there's certain ones that are 364 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 1: a little more bare. Running back fields a little more 365 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,639 Speaker 1: you know, kind of clogged all in the middle. You know, 366 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: I don't really know what the defensive backfield offerings are 367 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 1: going to be after the first couple of rounds. So 368 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: it's it's a little weighted towards certain positions, but it 369 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: is I think overall a pretty good group. Eric, do 370 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 1: you have a consensus like number one overall guy that 371 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 1: the guy that probably should go number one overall? We 372 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: know the Cardinals have that pick and Kyler Murray. That's 373 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: been the topic of conversation over the last several months, 374 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: but Is there a consensus number one overall prospect in 375 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,159 Speaker 1: your eyes? Yeah, I went back and forth, but I 376 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 1: landed on Quinta Williams from Alabama. And I know he's 377 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: only really a kind of a one year standout. I 378 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 1: mean he'd only played a handful of snaps when when 379 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: Alabama won the national championship over Georgia, you know, years 380 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:16,119 Speaker 1: plus ago. But flash forward to the next season, and 381 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: he's their their best player. And I kept looking for 382 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: holes in his games. I really couldn't find very many, 383 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: and just the explosive this he showed and kind of 384 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: the scheme wrecking ability, and it just ticked me a 385 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 1: little higher on him than it did with Nick bosat 386 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: Ohio State, who I think it's be great too. But 387 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: you know, it really came down to kind of the 388 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 1: two of them at the top, and after a little 389 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:40,879 Speaker 1: little more study and asking some friends around the league 390 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: and sort of see what they say, I landed on Williams. Now, 391 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: Murray could be the pick, and I would understand why 392 00:18:46,680 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: they would take him. You know, you match up your 393 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: head coach with a with a quarterback and skills sit 394 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: that and everything. But if I was strictly doing best 395 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,280 Speaker 1: available I think Quinny Williams would be my number one. 396 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 1: And Nick, you know, you're from the Midwest. You saw 397 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: Joey coming out of Ohio State. How would you compare 398 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 1: Nick to Joey because a lot of people say that 399 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: they're almost like clothes of each other. Yeah, they're They're 400 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: very similar, right, And you hate to you know, if 401 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:18,920 Speaker 1: his if his last name was you know, Nick Johnson 402 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: or something like that, I would still be able to 403 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: see the similarities. It's it's hard not to notice that, 404 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 1: you know, if we played at a different school or 405 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: something like that. You know obviously how State cranks out 406 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: the defensive line town you know as well as anybody. 407 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, they're they're clearly, you know, it's not hard 408 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 1: to sort of see the similarities. Joey might have a 409 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: little more pop in his in his in his hands 410 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: and just a little more of a forceful player, whereas 411 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,840 Speaker 1: Nick might be just a hair quick around the edge 412 00:19:49,920 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 1: or you know, I mean, both of them can can 413 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: change directions, both are extremely well built. We know the 414 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: football bloodlines run deep in that family. But yeah, there's 415 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: there's an obvious connection between the two and it's you know, 416 00:20:03,240 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: it shows up on tape you know, Eric, with quarterbacks, 417 00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: I get a different answer. I think I talked to 418 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: one person. They'll give me a different ranking of the 419 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:15,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in this class. I noticed Dwayne Haskins is not 420 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:18,080 Speaker 1: going to be at the draft. You he's some buzz 421 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: about Daniel Jones. How do you rank these quarterbacks? Drew 422 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: locks in the mix of course, Kyler Murray, But you 423 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,439 Speaker 1: wonder if is he the number one overall quarterback or 424 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,959 Speaker 1: is it just a product of Hey, Cliff Kingsbury's there 425 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 1: at the number one overall spot. So with this quarterback class, 426 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,720 Speaker 1: like you said, it's not as sexy as the twenty 427 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: eighteen class. But I'm just curious how you rank these guys. Yeah, 428 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: I you know, I have Murray is my number one 429 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 1: because I believe he has the highest high end potential 430 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: of any of these guys. Give if he's put in 431 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: the right situation. If he lands in Arizona, let's say, 432 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 1: and they improved that offensive line and they, you know, 433 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: build for the next generation of receivers and everything else, 434 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: and re formulate that offense, he has a good chance 435 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 1: to be a very good player. I had Haskins is 436 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 1: my number two. I understand what you're talking about as 437 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: far as the you know, this may be more of 438 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: a media driven angle than than a than a league perspective. 439 00:21:11,040 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 1: There are some people who are a little bit concerned 440 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,040 Speaker 1: about his feet, you know. I mean, Haskins is throws 441 00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: with that flash footed. You know, it doesn't really drive 442 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: it it his throws. He's gotten away with it. He's 443 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: got great armed talent. He's a one year starter two 444 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,560 Speaker 1: so there's probably some mechanics mechanical stuff, excuse me, I 445 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: think needs to work on. And it's interesting because I 446 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: have Drew Loock third, and you know, for a guy 447 00:21:33,040 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: who was fifty college starts and he's you know, he's 448 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 1: been out there parts of fourth seasons. He's been out 449 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:39,800 Speaker 1: there a lot. You know, he's still somebody that I 450 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: wouldn't want to see get thrust right in. I think 451 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,880 Speaker 1: he would still standing to learn from kind of watching 452 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 1: a starter charting defense is just kind of seeing everything 453 00:21:48,040 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 1: that they throw at him. He didn't play his best 454 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: in big games. He didn't have his finest moments against 455 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: the best defense is you know, there's a ton of 456 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,080 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, he's just dripping with talent as 457 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: far as his athletic m and his arm strength and 458 00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: everything else. And you know we I like him, I 459 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: really do, but I don't know that he'll ever be 460 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 1: that Pro Bowl caliber guy. I just I still feel 461 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: like there's enough deficiencies in his game. So then after that, 462 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:16,719 Speaker 1: I mean, I've got Jones kind of a frankly at 463 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 1: distant fourth. He's tough, he's big, he's surprisingly athletic, he 464 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: moves exceptionally well. His arm talent, I don't think it's great. 465 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,800 Speaker 1: I think it would be average to slightly below average 466 00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: by NFL standards, But the smarts are there. You know, 467 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,439 Speaker 1: it came back after three games from brooke collarbone and 468 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: played well in the game, came back against Virginia Tech, 469 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: so you know it comes from David Cutliffe. Mechanics are clean. 470 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 1: But you know, he doesn't strike me as much more 471 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: than that Ryan Tannehill kind of level of quarterback, the 472 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:53,000 Speaker 1: guy that you're always wanting a little bit more out of. 473 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 1: I think. So those are my top four right there. 474 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: You know, the Tale of the tape, Drew Locke versus 475 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: Dwayne Haskins. It's so interesting me because you mentioned Drew 476 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 1: Lack's arm, and really I think the starts is a 477 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 1: big thing. For for NFL teams, how many starts that 478 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 1: he has under his belt versus a guy like Dwayne 479 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: Haskins who really popped last year. He probably won bigger games, 480 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 1: he had better numbers. I didn't get better numbers in 481 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. So it's almost like you picked the 482 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: flavor that you want best, and not all thirty two 483 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,439 Speaker 1: teams are going to have that same answer. Absolutely one 484 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: hundred percent agree with that. And I try to tell 485 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: people this all the time. You know, they asked me, 486 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: all right, you know what or are they going to 487 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 1: go off or whatever? You know, how can you rank 488 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks or whatever? And I, you know, the teams 489 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,360 Speaker 1: that are willing to give me that information, I'm sometimes 490 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: shocked at what quarterbacks they have sort of placed where 491 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: or what kind of grades they give on it. You know. 492 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 1: You know, I had one team say that coming into 493 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: this season. Even though Drew Lockett had a really big 494 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: statistical year in two seventeen, they had a fourth fifth 495 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: round grade on him coming into the year. You know, 496 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: so you know, you see, we see and hear those things. 497 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 1: Not everybody one of these guys the lock to go 498 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: in the first round, but it's kind of trending towards 499 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,480 Speaker 1: four quarterbacks could land in this first round, and that 500 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: speaks a lot to the need of the position more 501 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 1: so than it does you know, the ready made talents 502 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: that we have here. Well, Eric, I go back to 503 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 1: last year. I had the privilege of working with Daniel 504 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: jeremiaht NFL Network last year, and yeah, I remember during 505 00:24:24,560 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 1: the draft process he was like, hey, you know, watch 506 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: out for Baker Mayfield here and he may he may 507 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 1: kind of pop here and move into the first round 508 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 1: and he gets propelled all the way to the number 509 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: one overall pick. So it's interesting you mentioned, you know, 510 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: lock in the perception of him going into this season. 511 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 1: That can change wildly over x number of months, whether 512 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 1: it's in the season or after the season, during this 513 00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 1: evaluation process. Absolutely, yeah, I mean how well do they 514 00:24:54,160 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: do they interview and tests, you know, how well do 515 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: they You know, things can change a lot. And also 516 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,920 Speaker 1: sometimes I will say, I mean, like you said, you're 517 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: talking to Daniel Jeremiah. Obviously he's got a lot of 518 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: friends in the league. I think a lot of people 519 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: who trust him. Sometimes that information maybe developing a little 520 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: earlier and it doesn't get out to the media for 521 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: another month or two, so our perception is all all 522 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: of a sudden, Noyne Haskins is thinking, well, maybe it 523 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been that hot. You know, teams haven't been that 524 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: hot on him all along, so those still things can happen. 525 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:27,960 Speaker 1: It kind of depends on the situation, but absolutely, you 526 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: know the case for Baker. I mean, going into the 527 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl last year, I think I'd have to remember, 528 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 1: but I think people are kind of like, yeah, he's 529 00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: an interesting pick, you know, late first, you know, maybe 530 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,680 Speaker 1: in the twenties somewhere, blah blah. You know, after that week, 531 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: I think everybody was saying, okay, top ten, maybe number one, 532 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: who knows, And that's kind of how it ended up. 533 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 1: It's crazy. It's crazy all right. Outside guys like Boasted 534 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 1: and Quinnon Williams, there's always a few players eric that 535 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 1: are given that like, hey, you can't go wrong with 536 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: this guy. I think what Nelson was a great example 537 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: of that last year. It's like, you know, you're getting 538 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:05,840 Speaker 1: a high quality starter. This's likely going to be a 539 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,639 Speaker 1: pro bowler at some point. Who are those guys in 540 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,920 Speaker 1: the first round outside the obvious names at the top, Yeah, 541 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you a couple. I'm a big fan of 542 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: Andre Diller, the left tackle at Washington State. You know, 543 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: granted he played in the two point stance. You know, 544 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 1: they had a lot of shotgun and quick passing game 545 00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:27,560 Speaker 1: and that sort of thing, and so it is kind 546 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: of hard to evaluate. You don't really see him lining 547 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 1: up with his hand in the dirt, firing off the 548 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: ball and you know, and clearing out a defensive tackle. 549 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: But you see his athletics. Let me see the footwork. 550 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: It's almost robotic like, and I mean that in a 551 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: good way. I mean he looks like a machine out there. 552 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,199 Speaker 1: And you know, other than one slip up in the 553 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl game, I mean I think he allowed one 554 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,199 Speaker 1: sack during the season and then that one during the 555 00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: Senior Bowl game. Just so clean, so prepared, you know, 556 00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:01,959 Speaker 1: quiet kid, unassuming. He just has that feel of like, gosh, 557 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,479 Speaker 1: I think we'll look back in a decade and say, 558 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,119 Speaker 1: how did that kid only go twenty first or whatever? 559 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: You know, like he should have been a top ten pick. 560 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: On the other side of the ball. I'm a massive 561 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 1: fan of Brian Burns in Florida State. I just I 562 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: watched the way he moves and I compared his combine 563 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,119 Speaker 1: drills von Miller's I put him on a split screen. 564 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: I watched him both at the same time, and I said, 565 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,879 Speaker 1: I mean, there's really not a lot of difference athletically 566 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: between the two. He's so young, he's just starting to 567 00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:34,679 Speaker 1: scratch the surface. And yet always talk about Rashaun Gary 568 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: and Montes Sweat and you know botha It's like Burns 569 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: has kind of gotten pushed to the side a little, 570 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 1: I think, And I don't know. He maybe he goes 571 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: eight to Detroit, maybe some other team in the top, 572 00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,080 Speaker 1: you know, twelve or fifteen picks, like the Packers or whoever. 573 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:52,040 Speaker 1: Maybe they take him and okay, great they you know, 574 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 1: that was the smart move. But I wouldn't be shocked 575 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 1: if he slips out of that that first dozen or 576 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 1: so picks and the same thing. We look back and go, man, 577 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,239 Speaker 1: how did we not rap him higher? So those are 578 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: two that I think are just I would be surprised 579 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: if they failed. Yeah, the Burns observation is interesting. I 580 00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 1: had Rick sarahtell on from an NFL draftbub a couple 581 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,320 Speaker 1: of weeks ago, and I think he's got Burns very high, 582 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: like yourself. And it's just it's a it's a draft. 583 00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: It seems to be loaded not only at edge rusher, 584 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: but just across the defensive line, and a good player 585 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: is gonna fall. And speaking of that, last year, Drwin 586 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:30,120 Speaker 1: James goes to the Charges at number seventeen to overall. 587 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,119 Speaker 1: I'm just curious because I know you've been doing this 588 00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: for so long and you probably were really locked in 589 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,440 Speaker 1: on Drwin last year. What was your reaction when when 590 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:42,360 Speaker 1: Durwin fell to seventeen. Okay, so here's the thing that 591 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: the mock draft I did probably like him, you know, 592 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 1: I must have done five or six along the way, 593 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,760 Speaker 1: one a month from you know, December up to the 594 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: draft or whatever. You know. I thought he'd be a 595 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: great state with the charters. I just said, that's a 596 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: team where he would be, you know, in great shape, 597 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 1: great hands. But I thought he's not gonna far. That's 598 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 1: all I mean, you know, granted the injury and everything else, 599 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: and maybe he doesn't have as much experience to everybody else, 600 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: but goodness, I mean, you watch him and you say 601 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: to yourself, he's special. I had him above Menca Fitzpatrick 602 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: as my top you know, dB overall, my best defensive back. 603 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,120 Speaker 1: I think it was my number four, five or six 604 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 1: overall player in last year's class, So you know, I 605 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: love the player. I kept putting him to the Chargers, 606 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 1: like in my February March mock drafts and saying like, gosh, 607 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 1: I guess, I guess can't find the landing spot. And 608 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: then I thought, Okay, the Bucks aren't going to be 609 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: this dumb. They're not nothing gets the Bucks. I have 610 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: friends who worked or whatever. I just said, They're not 611 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: gonna pass on this guy. They're gonna they're gonna make 612 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:43,959 Speaker 1: the right move. They're gonna take him at number five whatever. 613 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: They end up training down passing on them twice, and 614 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 1: the rest is history. And it just sometimes those decisions 615 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: can be one to look back on and for a 616 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: decade ago, man, we had him, We could have had 617 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: that guy. So it's crazy they're there. Their poor decision. 618 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: In my opinion, it ended up unefitting the Chargers in 619 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 1: a big way. Well and you know also too, Eric, 620 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,520 Speaker 1: it was so quarterback heavy at the beginning of the 621 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:09,240 Speaker 1: first round too, so Tala was dropping. It wasn't just Durwin, 622 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: but I think Durwin ends up being the most notable 623 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,480 Speaker 1: name when you see the rookie season that he had. 624 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: And speaking of the Chargers in the draft and each 625 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 1: of the last seven seasons, and Tom Telliska has been 626 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: a part of six of them, they've drafted a Pro 627 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: Bowl player or at all pro from twenty twelve to 628 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, whether it's you know, it was Ingram, Keenan Allen, 629 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: Jason Varrett, Melvin Gordon, Joey Bosa, Desmond King a fifth 630 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: rounder and then Durwin and all Pro in his rookie season. 631 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: In order to keep Dad going twenty eight it's likely 632 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,640 Speaker 1: going to have to be a Pro Bowl type player. 633 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,479 Speaker 1: Who do you see the Chargers homing in on at 634 00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 1: the end of the first based on how you think 635 00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: the first round could go? Yeah, I mean, and I 636 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,360 Speaker 1: would and I would tell you this if I was 637 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: doing a show in Milwaukee or San Jose or anywhere else. 638 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean, Tom Telesko and that scouting staff have done 639 00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: an outstanding job of not only you know, evaluating the talent, 640 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: but manipulating the draft and you know, finding the right 641 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: spots for guys and knowing where the drop off points 642 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: are and knowing when to make a move and when 643 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: not too just you know, there's only a they're in 644 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,000 Speaker 1: the discussion among the top three or four front office 645 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: in terms of how to best work the draft over 646 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: the last like you said, six years. So I always 647 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: admire the work they did. Desmond King was in my 648 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: top Oh my gosh, I had him forty eighth overall 649 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: that draft or something like that. I loved him. I 650 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: was shocked he felt as far as he did. I 651 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: understood the testing numbers and all that, but who's a 652 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,560 Speaker 1: football player. He had great instincts, and those are the 653 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: kind of things that I think they they always are 654 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 1: mindful of. Like Derwin James, right, I mean, sure, freakish athleticism, 655 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: but great football instincts too, and that allows him to 656 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: play so many roles. So that's kind of what I 657 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: try to think of when I when I pair up 658 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 1: charters with first round talents, and you know, do mock 659 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 1: drafts and things. I say, you know, yes, they like 660 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 1: everybody else, love the measurables. They love the athleticis and 661 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 1: they love to height the way the three cone drill 662 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: and all that stuff bench press. But I think they're 663 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: really smart about finding guys who are pure football players. 664 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,320 Speaker 1: So the question is, you know, at that spot of 665 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,680 Speaker 1: the draft. It's just outside of the range where some 666 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 1: of the defensive line and I really like her are going. Yeah, 667 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,640 Speaker 1: maybe Dixter Lawrence from Clemson. That's just the one fear 668 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: I have is that, you know, by pick number twenty 669 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 1: four or five, a lot of those top guys made 670 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: off the board. So if you go offensive tackle there, 671 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: do you do somebody from that top group slip like 672 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: a Cody Ford or or a Dealer or somebody like that. 673 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's a tough area to project, and it's 674 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: it's you know, we've heard them connected to even like 675 00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 1: Kayla McGarry from Washington. You know, they've done a lot 676 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: of work on him. I love him in the second round. 677 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:56,959 Speaker 1: I think that'd be a great spot for him at 678 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: number sixty. But if they had can fiction on him 679 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 1: and felt that, you know they could, I mean, he's 680 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: he's worth investing in as I think he's got the 681 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 1: passion for the game and the size and everything else 682 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: you like. But i'd I'd love them better at sixty 683 00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 1: than I would at twenty eight. So it's really tough 684 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: because if you're centering on offensive and defensive lines, that's 685 00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: kind of where I come up with I fail to 686 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 1: find that one guy who's a clear obvious fit for them. 687 00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: I think that's a good thing for the Chargers to 688 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: eric because you're not. I don't think there's a glaring need. 689 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 1: And again, the last two years since moving to Los Angeles, 690 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: they've drafted fourteen guys they're also on the roster. Thirteen 691 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: have played in the game. I believe ten or eleven 692 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: have started a game. And all these players affect a game, 693 00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Like to your point about Desmond King, Desmond affected the 694 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: game and special teams. I called that seventy three yard 695 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 1: punt return on Sunday Football against the Steelers. He just 696 00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: made big plays on special teams in defense all year long. 697 00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: So it could be just like, hey, it's the best 698 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: available guy, someone who can affect a game, or someone 699 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 1: who can just further bolster that offensive line or defensive 700 00:34:09,320 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 1: line with so many weapons on either side of the football. Yeah, 701 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: and that's yeah, right, absolutely. I mean even with all 702 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: the players they hurt had hurt last year, they still 703 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,919 Speaker 1: had probably one of the most talented rosters in the NFL. Yeah, 704 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: So you know, I wouldn't rule out let's just throw 705 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,080 Speaker 1: this out there. What would Jeffrey Simmons at number twenty 706 00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: eight being insane reach because in my mind, he wouldn't. 707 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: I think he's a top ten talent in this draft. 708 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,880 Speaker 1: Mississippi State defensive tackle reminds me of Fletcher Cox. We 709 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:39,880 Speaker 1: all know he's one of the best interior rushers in 710 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:42,520 Speaker 1: the league. Has some stuff that you have to clear 711 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,319 Speaker 1: up a little bit, right. He had an incident back 712 00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: in twenty sixteen, an alleged assault with a woman that 713 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: was caught on videos. You know, it was a big 714 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: deal back then, still something NFL teams are talking over. 715 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,879 Speaker 1: I've heard that he's passed most, you know, if not all, 716 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,640 Speaker 1: the character tests that you know, teams have kind of 717 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 1: thrown at him for the bigger issues. The tours acl 718 00:35:02,600 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 1: not long ago and probably will be out most of 719 00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 1: the season. I don't know. I don't know where I 720 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,919 Speaker 1: sit on that. Are the charters the kind of team 721 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:12,120 Speaker 1: who just say the count's too good, we gotta take him. 722 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: He's there. You know, we're not going to find anything 723 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: better at this point. We'll wait it out, you know, 724 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 1: put him on POP and then come December maybe this 725 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: guy's starting for us. Who knows. So it's just it's 726 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: one of those great debates at that pick that you know, 727 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,400 Speaker 1: I could go back and forth on and you know, 728 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: debate the merits of well, Eric, let me ask you 729 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: this quarterback wise, do you think this would be the 730 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,839 Speaker 1: year that you find a potential successor to Philip Rivers 731 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: a few years down the line. And the reason I 732 00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,239 Speaker 1: say that, you know, they bring a Tyrod Taylor, who 733 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: I think is a great addition in terms of just 734 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: adding first stability to the most important position on the field. 735 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:49,520 Speaker 1: But do you think that this is the draft to 736 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,640 Speaker 1: do it? And would you do it at twenty eight overall? Yeah, 737 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:55,440 Speaker 1: I was just gonna say the only other kind of 738 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: wildcard option might be quarterback, and so let's just say 739 00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:04,480 Speaker 1: right one because I have a feeling, you know, it's 740 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: hard to know. Obviously, Murray goes first. You know, we 741 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,080 Speaker 1: feel like there are enough teams that like Drew Locke, 742 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:12,840 Speaker 1: Dane Jones and the and the Giants seemed to be 743 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,000 Speaker 1: like a pairing that everybody wants to make, and that 744 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,839 Speaker 1: there might be another team out there that likes him. 745 00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 1: What if Haskin flips into the twenties, you know, what 746 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: if how well do they like him and would it 747 00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 1: be the perfect type of situation for a one year 748 00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 1: starter to kind of go in there, learn how to 749 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: take snaps from center, you know, work on his footwork 750 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,279 Speaker 1: a little bit, that sort of thing. You know, if 751 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: that's the case, why not, you know, that's why it's 752 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: so fun. That's why the draft is so fun because 753 00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 1: we're talking, we're speculating, we have no idea what's going 754 00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 1: to happen. Anthony Lennon was on Adam Schefterer's podcast this week, 755 00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: talked about Darwin James and he wasn't even in the 756 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,800 Speaker 1: conversation at seventeen. But but things like that will happen 757 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: throughout the course of a draft, where a guy falls 758 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: into your lap and you're just like, I wasn't expecting this. Yep. 759 00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean everybody and their brother was saying Oj Howard 760 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,400 Speaker 1: was going to be a top ten pick. You know, 761 00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:04,920 Speaker 1: guys that big don't test that well. He went nineteenth. 762 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,080 Speaker 1: You know, And that's a less extreme version of what 763 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:09,600 Speaker 1: you just said with James. But you know, you can 764 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,479 Speaker 1: you can look back at almost every draft and there's 765 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,160 Speaker 1: at least one, if not two or three surprised like 766 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: how did this guy last this long? Or how did 767 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: so and so go so early. So you know, it's 768 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,640 Speaker 1: like the chaos theory, like that one butterfly wing flap 769 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 1: can can throw everything all a bluey. So that's, like 770 00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 1: you said, that's what makes it so fun and unpredictable. 771 00:37:30,440 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: Eric at home Yahoo's Sports. Eric, you do awesome work there, man. 772 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: I know you have your your top one hundred prospects 773 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,920 Speaker 1: that you're going through all the way up to Draft Day. 774 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,919 Speaker 1: What else you have going on in Yahoo? Yeah, lots 775 00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,000 Speaker 1: of lots of other draft stuff. We're gonna do kind 776 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: of a value board to see which teams have the 777 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 1: most sort of firepower in the draft, you know, the Giants, 778 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots, the most picks, the you know, the highest 779 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,319 Speaker 1: picks in that sort of way. It that way. We've 780 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,680 Speaker 1: got some great features from our other writers who are 781 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 1: profiling so of the top prospects. You know, We've got 782 00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: a Kyler Murray thing dropping on Friday. So there's lots 783 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: going on. Man. I'm gonna stay caffeinated and stay sharp. 784 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 1: It's best I can all the way up through the 785 00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 1: end of April. Keep that coffee flowing, man, Eric, Great stuff, buddy. 786 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,720 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon, all right, man, Thank you. 787 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: If that'll do it My thanks to Eric Dholme and 788 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: Jeff Miller for joining me, and of course thanks to 789 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: you all for listening. Don't forget. If you like what 790 00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: you hear this offseason, be sure to give us a 791 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 1: rating and review on Apple Podcasts. Please help spread the word. 792 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:38,240 Speaker 1: Have a great weekend and until next time, Chris Hayry