WEBVTT - SYMHC Classics: Encephalitis Lethargica

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Saturday, everybody. Today we have one of our most

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<v Speaker 1>unintentionally terrifying episodes of all time. It is on encephalitis lethargica,

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<v Speaker 1>and it originally came out We did not ever intend

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<v Speaker 1>for this to be a Halloween episode, but it originally

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<v Speaker 1>came out in October and we heard from a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of listeners that it scared them more than anything else

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<v Speaker 1>we have ever done. So this story of a frightening

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<v Speaker 1>and mysterious illness is also a good segue into a

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<v Speaker 1>the end of today's episode for the trailer to the

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<v Speaker 1>End of the World with Josh Clark. Enjoy. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff You Missed in History Class from how Stuff Works

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<v Speaker 1>dot Com. Hello, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy B.

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<v Speaker 1>Wilson and I'm probably so. I did not intend for

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<v Speaker 1>today to be a Halloween episode. Is scary? Yeah, due

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<v Speaker 1>to some quirks in our publishing schedule. It happens to

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<v Speaker 1>be coming out right before Halloween. It is a listener

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<v Speaker 1>request from listener Ellen or perhaps Ellen, And in researching it,

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<v Speaker 1>I realized it was the most frightening thing I had

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<v Speaker 1>ever learned about. So, so buckle up. History has scared Tracy.

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<v Speaker 1>History has scared me. So. From nineteen sixteen to about

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<v Speaker 1>nine seven, this really bizarre epidemic spread around the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It came to be known as sleepy sickness, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is not to be confused with sleeping sickness, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a tropical disease found in sub Saharan Africa. This is

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<v Speaker 1>another name for a disease called encephalitis lethargica, and it

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<v Speaker 1>caused this really weird variety of symptoms, from drastic behavior

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<v Speaker 1>changes to unusual eye movements. Especially in the beginning years

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Uh, the really common element was this deep,

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<v Speaker 1>prolonged sleep that went on and on from days two months,

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<v Speaker 1>and people just couldn't wake up. Between twenty and of

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<v Speaker 1>the people who got this disease died, and of the

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<v Speaker 1>ones who survived, only about a third really fully recovered.

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<v Speaker 1>The rest developed what came to be known as post

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<v Speaker 1>and syphilitic Parkinson ism, and some of these patients persisted

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<v Speaker 1>in a semi comatose state for decades. It's extra terrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>The next part is even more terrifying. Yeah, as if

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<v Speaker 1>all of this were not enough to scare the pants

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<v Speaker 1>off of you. While in this extremely deep sleep that

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<v Speaker 1>was part of many of the cases, people appeared to

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<v Speaker 1>be unconscious, but in reality they were actually alert. They

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<v Speaker 1>were completely aware of what was going on, but they

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<v Speaker 1>were unable to overspeaks, so it was a sort of paralysis. Really. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So people today may have heard about this whole disease

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<v Speaker 1>from the movie Awakenings starring Robin Williams, or maybe from

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<v Speaker 1>the first pages of Neil Gaiman's amazing comic book series Sandman,

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<v Speaker 1>which starts off when a ritual that was meant to

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<v Speaker 1>capture death instead captures dream and causes people to sleep endlessly. Otherwise,

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<v Speaker 1>it's pretty far in the background of medical history most

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<v Speaker 1>of the time. It's not something that people remember all

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<v Speaker 1>that well today. But from its onset until about ten

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<v Speaker 1>years after it faded away, there were more than nine

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<v Speaker 1>thousand papers and books published on it, so at the

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<v Speaker 1>time it was a big deal. Even though people don't

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<v Speaker 1>necessarily come up with it immediately when thinking about huge

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<v Speaker 1>epidemics today. Yeah, and I wonder why that is, um

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of that. Yeah, Prolonged sleep as an

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<v Speaker 1>illness has been reported really really way back into history.

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<v Speaker 1>There are written records as early as Hippocrates of this

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<v Speaker 1>kind of incident happening. And then there are also, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>in our cultural consciousness tales like sleeping beauty and these

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<v Speaker 1>stories like rip van Winkle uh, and some people along

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<v Speaker 1>the line have theorized that these were actually rooted to

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<v Speaker 1>some degree in some kind of sleeping illness. In the

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<v Speaker 1>real world, there had also been an outbreak of a

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<v Speaker 1>similar condition in Italy in eighteen eighty nine and eighteen ninety,

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<v Speaker 1>which came to be known as Landona, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>thought at the time to be a complication of the flu.

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<v Speaker 1>And around the world, other outbreaks of encephalitis had also

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<v Speaker 1>followed behind other epidemics, particularly the flu. This particular one

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<v Speaker 1>started just a couple of years before the nineteen eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish flu epidemic, which killed between twenty and forty million people,

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<v Speaker 1>and when it came to the encephalitis lethargica epidemic, the

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<v Speaker 1>first reports came at about the same time in two

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<v Speaker 1>different places, which were France in Austria. In nineteen six,

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<v Speaker 1>in France, a doctor named Genre nee Cruche started to

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<v Speaker 1>see six soldiers with this weird assortment of seemingly unrelated

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<v Speaker 1>neurological symptoms, and the one common element was that the

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<v Speaker 1>patients just slept, apparently peacefully and deeply, and that they

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<v Speaker 1>could not be woken up, and he started to wonder

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<v Speaker 1>whether there was some kind of new chemical weapon at work.

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<v Speaker 1>At about the same time, a British doctor named A. J.

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<v Speaker 1>Hall also reported similar symptoms, and other troops who were

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<v Speaker 1>stationed in France. In Vienna, it came to the attention

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<v Speaker 1>of Romanian Austrian psychiatrists Constantine von Economo after a sleepy,

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<v Speaker 1>disoriented civilian wandered into the Wagner Jarre clinic where he worked.

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<v Speaker 1>The doctors there had mostly been treating soldiers who were

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<v Speaker 1>wounded in the war, so they really weren't prepared for

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<v Speaker 1>this apparently uninjured civilian with nothing physically wrong that they

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<v Speaker 1>could really point to. And then more and more patients

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<v Speaker 1>with similar symptoms arrived at the clinic and there you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they had the similar part of this uncontrollable sleepiness and sleep.

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<v Speaker 1>But the rest of their symptoms were so strange and

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<v Speaker 1>diverse that the doctors were really at a loss to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out a cause or a treatment. These patients had fevers, malaise,

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<v Speaker 1>double vision, they became lethargic. Sometimes they had sore throats.

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<v Speaker 1>Their eye muscles would start working and their eyes would

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<v Speaker 1>dart around or roll back in their heads. Some of

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<v Speaker 1>them developed very strange eye and tongue movement movements, and

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<v Speaker 1>this variety of other neurological and psychiatric symptoms. A few

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<v Speaker 1>of them even had uncontrollable hiccups, and one died of that.

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<v Speaker 1>How does that work? Well, if you can't stop hiccuping,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't really eat or sleep, and then it can

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<v Speaker 1>cause all kinds of other interesting Yeah. Once again, throughout

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, the common element was this strange deep

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<v Speaker 1>sleep from which they could not be woken. Vanni Conomos

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<v Speaker 1>saw this common element and said, we're dealing with a

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<v Speaker 1>sleeping sickness. Yeah. He was really the one that just

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<v Speaker 1>laid that out there, and he's a character on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>He was also a pilot who had been serving in

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<v Speaker 1>the war, but he came back home to Vienna after

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<v Speaker 1>his brother was killed and he really wanted to be flying,

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<v Speaker 1>but reluctantly transferred to doing medical work instead to try

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<v Speaker 1>to keep himself more out of danger and spare his

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<v Speaker 1>family from further grief. On top of all that, he

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<v Speaker 1>was also a baron, having been born to a family

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<v Speaker 1>of Greek aristocrats and then married the daughter of an

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<v Speaker 1>Austrian prince. As the patient started to die from sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>Vonni Konomos started an intense research effort to find a

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<v Speaker 1>cause and a cure. He studied autopsies of patients who

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<v Speaker 1>had died of the disease, and he found common areas

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<v Speaker 1>of damage to their brains, specifically in the hypothalamus, and

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<v Speaker 1>he suspected that the differences and how much people slept

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<v Speaker 1>was related to just how their hypothalamus was damaged. He

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<v Speaker 1>also found that brain tissue could transmit the disease to monkeys,

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<v Speaker 1>so he concluded that they were looking at something that

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<v Speaker 1>was contagious. He publicly announced his conclusion that they were

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<v Speaker 1>dealing with a new disease, probably a virus, before the

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<v Speaker 1>Psychiatric Society in Vienna, on April seventeenth of nineteen seventeen.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Consequently, sometimes the disease has been referred to as

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<v Speaker 1>von Economo's disease. His announcement was not at all well received.

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<v Speaker 1>At the time. The prevailing view was that mental illnesses

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<v Speaker 1>were all products of things like trauma and buried memories.

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<v Speaker 1>Freud was really at the forefront of psychology at this point,

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of people just scoffed at the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that there could be a virus or other disease process

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<v Speaker 1>causing the kinds of behavior changes and psychological problems that

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<v Speaker 1>some of the patients were exhibiting. The ongoing debate and

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<v Speaker 1>this mystery of the whole thing kept much progress from

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<v Speaker 1>being made in terms of treatment and prevention. But then, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the illness mostly disappeared from continental Europe. It really just

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<v Speaker 1>fell off suddenly, and Spanish flew on the rise, took

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<v Speaker 1>its place, and it became a much more pressing priority.

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<v Speaker 1>Not long after that, though, the disease appeared in London

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<v Speaker 1>and it followed much the same pattern as it had

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<v Speaker 1>on the continent. There were, you know, all these patients

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<v Speaker 1>who were suddenly having the strange collective collection of symptoms

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<v Speaker 1>and sleeping constantly. The government in Britain quickly made it

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<v Speaker 1>a reportable disease. The Ministry of Health had to be

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<v Speaker 1>notified of all new cases and its appearance and spread

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<v Speaker 1>UH in London was much like it had been in

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<v Speaker 1>France and Austria. Strange symptoms and unending sleep uh you know,

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<v Speaker 1>baffling the doctors. But in England the symptoms became even

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<v Speaker 1>more alarming, with patients who could never sleep, or who

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't stop laughing, or had other strange physical or emotional

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<v Speaker 1>present sians It also seemed like fewer and fewer people

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<v Speaker 1>were truly recovering. In Austria and France, there had been

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<v Speaker 1>people that had gotten better, but as it's spread around England,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people were becoming comatose or developing. As

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<v Speaker 1>we mentioned at the beginning, what later it came to

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<v Speaker 1>be known as post and syphilitic parkinson is um or PEP.

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<v Speaker 1>Sometimes the onset of parkinson Is m happened years after

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<v Speaker 1>people recovered, after they had apparently been healthy all that time.

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<v Speaker 1>During the epidemic, the average age for the onset of

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<v Speaker 1>Parkinson's dropped to thirty six years old. Today, while there

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<v Speaker 1>are people who have early onset, the average age for

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<v Speaker 1>people to start exhibiting Parkinson's is sixty. So this was

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<v Speaker 1>really a significant and strange happening. Uh. Following the epidemic,

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<v Speaker 1>two thirds of Parkinson's patients had previously had encephalitis, so

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<v Speaker 1>it clearly was causing it. Right, this, this disease is

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<v Speaker 1>was causing a drastic shift in who developed Parkinson's and when.

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<v Speaker 1>And we're going to pause before we start talking about

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<v Speaker 1>how then the rest of the world gets to be terrified.

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<v Speaker 1>So to return to the story of encephalitis lethargica from England,

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<v Speaker 1>the disease spread all over the globe, and the same

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<v Speaker 1>story just played out over and over and over. People

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<v Speaker 1>would start showing up with these strange symptoms that prevent

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<v Speaker 1>that presented themselves in such different ways that it would

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<v Speaker 1>take a while for doctors to realize what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>It really didn't help that the epidemic had started just

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<v Speaker 1>at the end of World War One and just before

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<v Speaker 1>the start of the nineteen eighteen Spanish flu epidemic, and

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<v Speaker 1>so resources were just scarce and there were definitely bigger

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<v Speaker 1>priorities going on. And this crazy, although terrifying disease, and

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<v Speaker 1>as it spread, it started to prompt a variety of

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<v Speaker 1>different sleep disorders. So while some patients would sleep for

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<v Speaker 1>months at a time, others couldn't sleep at all, and

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<v Speaker 1>they would actually die of exhaustion. The disease came to

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<v Speaker 1>be known in some places as epidemic encephalitis rather than

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<v Speaker 1>encephalitis lethargica, since not everyone could really be called lethargic anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>As its spread, it also started to affect more and

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<v Speaker 1>more children and young people. Children who contracted the disease

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<v Speaker 1>developed impulse control issues that led to them having violent

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<v Speaker 1>behavior in their adolescence. Some of them injured themselves or

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<v Speaker 1>other people. One even removed her own eyes and several

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<v Speaker 1>of her own teeth okay after unclenched. After that um,

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<v Speaker 1>this behavior often would continue for the rest of these

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<v Speaker 1>patients lives after they progress out of childhood, unless post

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<v Speaker 1>and cephalitic parkinson is M made them physically unable to continue.

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<v Speaker 1>For children with the disease, outbursts were so severe that

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<v Speaker 1>many had to be institutionalized. Hospitals and asylums that were

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<v Speaker 1>accustomed to providing care for adults suddenly had to develop

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<v Speaker 1>new practices to care for children because there were so

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<v Speaker 1>many suddenly having to move into institutions. Researchers theorized that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason this encephalitis was causing behavior changes like this

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<v Speaker 1>and young people was because their brains hadn't yet developed

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity for self control that adults typically had by

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<v Speaker 1>the time they were infected, and this tendency towards violent

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<v Speaker 1>behavior and other erratic behavior even led to encephalitis lethargica

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<v Speaker 1>being blamed for gangster behavior and lawlessness during the nineteen twenties.

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<v Speaker 1>Once this disease spread to the United States, neurologist Frederick Tilney,

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<v Speaker 1>who was known as Fred and had also been Helen

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<v Speaker 1>Keller's neurologist, became the country's foremost authority on sleepy sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>One of his most famous encephalitis patients was Jesse Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>who was the wife of Jack p Morgan, who himself

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<v Speaker 1>was the son of banker and full anthropist John Pierpoint Morgan.

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<v Speaker 1>She got the disease in After Jesse's death, Jack donated

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<v Speaker 1>two hundred thousand dollars to the Neurological Institute to fund

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<v Speaker 1>research into this disease. The Neurological Institute was behind most

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<v Speaker 1>of the research into encephalitis lethargica that came from that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Later on, William Matheson, who was the wealthy founder of

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<v Speaker 1>a chemical company and an encephalitis patient started the Matheson

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<v Speaker 1>Commission to fund research at the Neurological Institute, with Dr

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<v Speaker 1>Josephine B. Neil, who was an encephalitis expert, helming the

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<v Speaker 1>project and the commission's aim was to study the disease

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually find a vaccine. Since nobody knew exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>was causing the disease, they worked on three theories simultaneously.

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<v Speaker 1>One was that it was being caused by an unknown virus,

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<v Speaker 1>the next was that it was being caused by bacteria,

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<v Speaker 1>possibly strapped UH, and the third was that it was

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<v Speaker 1>being caused by herpes. This was a long shot to

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<v Speaker 1>begin with because no causative agent had been found for

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<v Speaker 1>this disease. They were basically operating in the dark based

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<v Speaker 1>on best guesses. On top of that, there was a

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<v Speaker 1>ton of infighting among the researchers. A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>were extremely prominent neurologists and scientists. Each of them really

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be the one to crack this case and

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what's going on. Um that they were not

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<v Speaker 1>working together very well. They were each trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>the glory for themselves. And then there was another huge

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<v Speaker 1>setback when Matheson himself died in nineteen thirty. That was

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the Great Depression, and he had

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<v Speaker 1>been providing the funding, so after his death there wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really other funding to be had, so the Matheson Commission

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<v Speaker 1>ceased operations in ninety two and so no workable vaccine

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<v Speaker 1>had been developed, and one of the things that doctors

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<v Speaker 1>tried to treat post encephalitist patients of was lobotomies, which

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<v Speaker 1>also did not work. There was a lot of ending

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<v Speaker 1>that did not work. There were a few outlying successes

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<v Speaker 1>during this time that would kind of give people false

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<v Speaker 1>hope that maybe they were on the right track, but

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<v Speaker 1>nothing led to an actual treatment or cure. Most of

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<v Speaker 1>the medical care that the patients were receiving was really

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<v Speaker 1>about just caring for their bodies and keeping them alive.

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<v Speaker 1>The thirty or so percent who developed parkinson Is um

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<v Speaker 1>generally wound up in long term care for the rest

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<v Speaker 1>of their lives, and many of them were completely unable

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<v Speaker 1>to move or take care of themselves. In the nineteen sixties,

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<v Speaker 1>after the drug leve Adopa, or el dopa as it

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<v Speaker 1>was called, was introduced for treating Parkinson's, New York doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Oliver Sacks, who are some of our listeners may have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of, administered it to some encephalitis lethargica patients who

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<v Speaker 1>were in long term care. Some patients actually showed a

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<v Speaker 1>limited recovery from their post and sephalitis lethargica parkinson symptoms.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the story that's actually told in the movie Awakenings,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why people may have heard of Olliver sex.

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<v Speaker 1>But they all apparently developed a tolerance until the dosage

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<v Speaker 1>was really just too much for the human body to handle,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they would return to their semi comatose state

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<v Speaker 1>in the end. This epidemic went on from nineteen sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>to nineteen twenty seven, reaching its peak in nineteen twenty four,

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<v Speaker 1>after which the number of cases started to drop off.

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<v Speaker 1>The total numbers of people affected are really unclear. There

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<v Speaker 1>are sources who say that a million people were killed,

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<v Speaker 1>while others say that only half a million were affected

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<v Speaker 1>in one way or another. Regardless, though the mortality rate

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<v Speaker 1>was pretty serious in England, almost half of the cases

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen nineteen and nineteen twenty died. Although it was

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<v Speaker 1>roughly concurrent with the Spanish flu pandemic, and flu came

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<v Speaker 1>up frequently when looking at possible causes. Many doctors at

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<v Speaker 1>the time didn't really think the disease was actually flu related.

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<v Speaker 1>Only a small percentage of the patients had also had

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<v Speaker 1>Spanish flu. In nineteen eighty two, however, doctors from the

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<v Speaker 1>Centers for Disease Control published this list of connections between

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<v Speaker 1>the two diseases. So for a little while. In more

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<v Speaker 1>recent years, flu became a prime suspect for causing encephalitis lethargica.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh there is, you know, especially since there have been

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<v Speaker 1>other incidents of encephalitis that have followed outbreaks of the flu. Today,

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<v Speaker 1>the idea that the flu was the culprit has pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much been ruled out. Thanks to modern testing methods. They

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<v Speaker 1>haven't turned up any sign of the flu virus in

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<v Speaker 1>tissue samples from patients who died from encephalitis. Although it's

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<v Speaker 1>never reached that same epidemic state again, isolated cases of

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<v Speaker 1>encephalitis lethargica have continued to crop up even in recent years.

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<v Speaker 1>Most recently in a twenty three year old named Becky

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<v Speaker 1>Powell was diagnosed with the disease and it took her

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<v Speaker 1>two years to recover. Several similar ass followed. In two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand three, a team of doctors published a paper in

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<v Speaker 1>the journal Brain that put forth a pretty good case

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<v Speaker 1>that the cause of encephalitis lethargica is actually a massive

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<v Speaker 1>autoimmune reaction to an unidentified pathogen. A strain of strep

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<v Speaker 1>comes up in the discussion, but it's ultimately dismissed as unlikely.

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<v Speaker 1>And their research was done on twenty different patients who

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<v Speaker 1>developed the disease between two thousand two, and those patients

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<v Speaker 1>had a much lower mortality rate than during the epidemic.

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<v Speaker 1>Only one died, but five of them did have to

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<v Speaker 1>be placed on a ventilator. Had those five patients lived

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<v Speaker 1>in the ninety twenties, they probably would not have made it,

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<v Speaker 1>but almost none of them had fully recovered a year

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<v Speaker 1>or so later when the paper was published. They continued

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<v Speaker 1>to have neurological and psychiatric symptoms. Yeah. If if there

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<v Speaker 1>had been if today's ventilation technology had existed in the

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenties, the mortality rate would have been sign Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because people would get into this just deep uninterrupted sleep

0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:05.720
<v Speaker 1>and their respiratory functions would fail, and there wasn't really

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<v Speaker 1>anything that people could do about it. But now that

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<v Speaker 1>we have ventilators, uh, that there are actual there's a

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<v Speaker 1>treatment for that part of it that didn't exist back then.

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<v Speaker 1>In a paper in the journal BMC Infectious Diseases reported

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<v Speaker 1>that a team of researchers had found virus like particles

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<v Speaker 1>in the brains of both epidemic encephalitis patients and modern patients,

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<v Speaker 1>so people who had died either recently or during the epidemic.

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<v Speaker 1>This supports the idea that the cause of encephalitis lethargica

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<v Speaker 1>is an interarovirus, but exactly what interarovirus we still do

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<v Speaker 1>you not know. So encephalitis lethargica has a some you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a legacy today, even though a lot of people have

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<v Speaker 1>not really heard of it as tragic and frightening as

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<v Speaker 1>the disease was and is really. In the end, it

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<v Speaker 1>helped doctors understand more about the brain. Von economos conclusion

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<v Speaker 1>about the hypothalamus and its role in the patient's sleep,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, was hugely unpopular at the time, but many

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<v Speaker 1>years later it was proved to be true after we

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<v Speaker 1>developed sorts of imaging technologies that we can use to

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<v Speaker 1>look directly at the brain as it's working today. Neurologist

0:21:27.920 --> 0:21:31.879
<v Speaker 1>Bernard Sacks also wrote that the epidemic of encephalitis quote

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<v Speaker 1>revolutionized the practice of neurology, So it really changed the

0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>way that, uh, these things were examined from the get go. Yeah,

0:21:40.119 --> 0:21:44.439
<v Speaker 1>it helped solidifying neurology as an actual field. In the

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<v Speaker 1>early days, there was sort of this hodgepodge of neurology

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<v Speaker 1>ideas and psychology ideas and all these things that were

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<v Speaker 1>kind of together in one big pot. And in part

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<v Speaker 1>because of encephalitis being spread the way that it was,

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<v Speaker 1>a group of doctors branched off to study just neurology

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<v Speaker 1>and it celf lightest lethargica was also one of the

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<v Speaker 1>conditions that made it clear that disease processes can lead

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<v Speaker 1>to mental illnesses. Uh, it's solidified the idea that mental

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<v Speaker 1>illnesses were not solely in the realm of emotions or

0:22:17.240 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 1>traumatic experiences. It's not always buried memories. Sometimes there can

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<v Speaker 1>actually be a physical happening that causes mental illness. There

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<v Speaker 1>are a couple of books that are out about this epidemic.

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<v Speaker 1>The one that I read researching this podcast was called Asleep,

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<v Speaker 1>The Forgotten Epidemic That Remains one of Medicine's Greatest Mysteries

0:22:37.680 --> 0:22:43.359
<v Speaker 1>by Molly Caldwell Crosby and her grandmother survived sleepy sickness.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts with sort of a case study of her grandmother.

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<v Speaker 1>That's terrifying because it's about her grandmother being asleep for

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<v Speaker 1>so long but also being aware of what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>around her, which to me is just terrifying. The one

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<v Speaker 1>caveat about this book is that it was written before

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<v Speaker 1>the very most recent research about what might have caused

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<v Speaker 1>this particular epidemic, which is going to be the case

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<v Speaker 1>with just about every book now since the latest research

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<v Speaker 1>is just from very new Yeah. Last year, as we

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<v Speaker 1>were recording, I have read several papers that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and when the bird flu epidemic was was everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>very frightened about bird flu. There were several articles that

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<v Speaker 1>that came up where doctors were like, actually, what you

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<v Speaker 1>really should be afraid of is a resurgence of this

0:23:31.440 --> 0:23:38.720
<v Speaker 1>still unidentified encephalitis that sometimes that sometimes follows outbreaks of

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<v Speaker 1>other diseases. I yeah, it's basically my worst nightmare. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not a good relationship with sleep anyway. If

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to do it, I wouldn't. So the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of not having any control over the situation and

0:23:52.359 --> 0:23:55.520
<v Speaker 1>just being asleep but not really because you're conscious of

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<v Speaker 1>things happening. Is my worst nightmare. Yeah, not play on

0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:05.000
<v Speaker 1>sleep jokes, but well, it's terrifying and the there are

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<v Speaker 1>many things about this whole the epidemic and the illness

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:10.639
<v Speaker 1>itself that are are frightening to me, and one of

0:24:10.640 --> 0:24:14.160
<v Speaker 1>them is that people would seem to recover and they

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<v Speaker 1>would be fine for a long time, and then the

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<v Speaker 1>developed fine developed parkinson symptoms um and once it had

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<v Speaker 1>been established that that was a pattern, I can imagine

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<v Speaker 1>like the people who had gotten better really being like

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:30.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm never going to be which I know that's the

0:24:31.040 --> 0:24:33.400
<v Speaker 1>case with a lot of diseases that people have now,

0:24:33.440 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>Like there are many cancer patients who never feel like

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<v Speaker 1>they are in the clear because you can be in remission.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's a scary thing to live with that

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<v Speaker 1>It is in a mensely interesting deep dive into the

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<v Speaker 1>This clip comes from episode four and it features economist

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<v Speaker 1>Robin Hansen, creator of the Great Filter hypothesis, which is

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<v Speaker 1>something we may have to contend with in the near future.

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<v Speaker 1>When we settled down, our cities, developed agriculture can support

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<v Speaker 1>more people than hunting and gathering, and the more people

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<v Speaker 1>there are, the more brilliant ideas there are. Two so

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<v Speaker 1>our civilization began to advance by leaps and bounds in

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<v Speaker 1>the last nine or ten thousand years. Ideas spread more

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<v Speaker 1>quickly among those people who lived together in those new cities,

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<v Speaker 1>so innovations were able to develop over the span of

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<v Speaker 1>a handful of years rather than millennia. Almost everything we

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<v Speaker 1>have in the world today can be traced back to

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<v Speaker 1>our collective decision to settle down and raise crops. It was,

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<v Speaker 1>to say the least, a sweeping change for us humans.

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<v Speaker 1>With our next great leap spreading out into space, we

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<v Speaker 1>are effectively doing the opposite of when we settled down

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<v Speaker 1>into cities. Rather than contracting, we will be expanding. From

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<v Speaker 1>that huge coming together, we will spread out. Over time,

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<v Speaker 1>humans will begin to colonize other planets, and generations of

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<v Speaker 1>little human babies will be borne on planets other than Earth.

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<v Speaker 1>They will be shaped by forces and experiences that no

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<v Speaker 1>earthbound human will have ever encountered, and they will learn

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<v Speaker 1>to adapt to their home planet just like we did.

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<v Speaker 1>We are quite capable of becoming all the things that

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<v Speaker 1>it's possible to become. Life that starts from us and

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<v Speaker 1>radiates out cannot only spread to different places that can

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<v Speaker 1>create different styles and techniques and cultures and approaches. All

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<v Speaker 1>of the life that you see on Earth started out

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<v Speaker 1>from a much smaller amount of variation, but with time

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<v Speaker 1>it could explore lots of different niches and ways of living.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's probably what would happen to us too. If

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<v Speaker 1>we're the only life around it, we can survive, we

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<v Speaker 1>will radiate. We will become diverse and different and fill

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<v Speaker 1>thousand million billion different niches of different ways of being.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, perhaps their physical connection to humans on Earth

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<v Speaker 1>will become distant enough that new species of humans will form,

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<v Speaker 1>and the universe will be home to more than one

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<v Speaker 1>species of human again, just as it was fifty years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We will become the aliens we seek, and later on

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<v Speaker 1>they might be surprised to learn that they came from

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<v Speaker 1>something that was simple and not as very It's odd

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<v Speaker 1>to think of, but humans are in an evolutionary bottleneck

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<v Speaker 1>of our own. Right now. There's only one species of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and with the exception of maybe half a dozen astronauts

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<v Speaker 1>on the International Space Station at any given time, we

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<v Speaker 1>are all stranded on this island Earth. Those astronauts aboard

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<v Speaker 1>the I s S showed just the faintous beginnings of

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<v Speaker 1>our future. If we become a space faring species, all

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<v Speaker 1>of humanities eggs will no longer be in just the

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<v Speaker 1>one basket of Earth. Should some catastrophe befall those of

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<v Speaker 1>us here on Earth, there will be other humans living

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<v Speaker 1>elsewhere to carry on. We will begin to trickle from

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<v Speaker 1>our bottleneck and spread throughout the universe, and when we do,

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<v Speaker 1>we will have made it through the great Filter. Colonizing

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<v Speaker 1>beyond Earth is something we should begin working on as

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<v Speaker 1>soon as we can, because Earth is vulnerable to a

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<v Speaker 1>wide variety of catastrophes that are pretty hostile to life,

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<v Speaker 1>things like exploding stars, the death of our son, even

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<v Speaker 1>Earth's own systems going haywire. Please join me for the

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<v Speaker 1>End of the World with Josh Clark. Listen and subscribe

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