1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, 2 00:00:03,240 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: a paranormal podcast network where we offer you podcasts of 3 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: the supernatural and the unexplained. Getting ready now for Shades 4 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: of the Afterlife with Sandra Champlain. The thoughts and opinions 5 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: expressed by the host our thoughts and opinions only, and 6 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,759 Speaker 1: do not necessarily reflect those of I Heart Media, I 7 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, Coast to Coast a out employees of premier 8 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: networks or their sponsors and associates. You are encouraged to 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: do the proper amount of research yourself, depending on the 10 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: subject matter and your needs. Hi, I'm Sanders Champlain. For 11 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: almost twenty five years, I've been on a journey to 12 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:56,640 Speaker 1: prove the existence of life after death. On each episode, 13 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 1: will discuss the reasons we now know that our loved 14 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 1: ones have survived physical death, and so will we. Welcome 15 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:08,679 Speaker 1: to Shades of the Afterlife. As you listen to me, Now, 16 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:11,760 Speaker 1: take a look around where you are. If you're driving, 17 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: keep your hands on the steering wheel, but just imagine 18 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: your loved ones around you, cheering you on as you 19 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: go through life. Now, certainly they're busy in the afterlife. 20 00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: They continue their education for their soul with jobs and 21 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: helping others. But they are only a thought away. So 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:35,200 Speaker 1: imagine them now, your biggest cheerleaders, right there doing their 23 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:37,880 Speaker 1: best to let you know that you are not alone, 24 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: that your life is for a purpose, and they are 25 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:46,119 Speaker 1: right there with you. Now, imagine something else. Imagine some 26 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: balls of light floating around. Whether you call them your 27 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: spirit guides, your guardian angels, whatever that may be. What 28 00:01:54,720 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: do you think about these beings that may have never 29 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: walked on earth, that are around us, love us and 30 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: support us. Some people think we have guardian angels who 31 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: helped us find a parking spot, and I don't know 32 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: about that could be true. But our guest today is 33 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 1: someone who's made her life about angels, and now we 34 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: believe in the afterlife, so why not believe in these 35 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 1: other beings that are there too. I want to introduce 36 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: you to Laura Byrne, who is in Ireland and she 37 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: has sold over a million copies of her books about angels. 38 00:02:35,840 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 1: She calls herself just an ordinary woman and she began 39 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:43,399 Speaker 1: to see angels when she was a young girl. Her 40 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 1: books have been translated into thirty languages and are sold 41 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: in fifty countries around the world. The books include Angels 42 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:56,079 Speaker 1: in My Hair, Stairways to Heaven, a message of Hope 43 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: from the Angels, and Love from Heaven. So I am 44 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: so delighted to introduce you to this wonderful woman and 45 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:10,880 Speaker 1: have you hear her extraordinary story. Lorna, Welcome, I, Sandra, 46 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: am delighted now to be talking with you, and I'm 47 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: looking forward to all the wonderful questions you're going to ask. Well, 48 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 1: I'll certainly do my best. Laurena, you know your story 49 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: better than anyone, and I read that you started seeing 50 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 1: angels as a baby. Did this come natural to you? 51 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:30,360 Speaker 1: Tell us some of your story if you would, am, 52 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: it was something I would say came natural, and I 53 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: always would say, and especially in angels my hair I 54 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: have I've already said that. You know, from the moment 55 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: I put my eyes I saw angels, even though I 56 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: didn't know they were angels because I was oddly an infant. 57 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I see angels physically every day of 58 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: my life. And I know if I was in the 59 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 1: same room with you now, I would see your guardian 60 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: angel as physically as I would see see yourself. And 61 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: it was when I was about two and a half 62 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: years of age when I was sitting in front of 63 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 1: the fire with my little brother and we were playing 64 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: with blocks that my dad had made, and it was 65 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,599 Speaker 1: like as if, the only way I can describe it, 66 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: his hand went into mine or mine went into his, 67 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: and it just sparkled, and I just felt such love. 68 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: And you have to remember I was only an infant, 69 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: only about two two and a half years of age. 70 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: Was your brother alive in this world? No? And I didn't. Yeah, 71 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,360 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. You know that. That's why I'm saying. 72 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: You have to remember I was only this this age. 73 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: And it was at that time that the angels said 74 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: to me, you know, my brother was the soul that 75 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: he had died before I was born, and they were angels, 76 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: but I must keep it a secret. Wow. And I 77 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: suppose you know, being a child, they were constantly reminded 78 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: me to keep it secret. So I actually never told anyone. 79 00:05:03,360 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: And one of the lovely things was that, you know, 80 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: when I did write angels in my hair. Eventually I 81 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: read that chapter with with the help of a friend, 82 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: to my mom, and she was just so moved by 83 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: it because sometimes I would see my brother as an 84 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: infant in her arms when she was asleep in the 85 00:05:26,640 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: chair in front of the fire. And I was only 86 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: two or two and a half, so it occurred to me, 87 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: you know, how come I my brother could change age. 88 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 1: You know, you know you're you. I never questioned the 89 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 1: angels or or anything they said. You know, they have 90 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: been my best friends, my companions, and my teachers. And 91 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm what you called alexic, and know I'm not sure 92 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: if I'm pronouncing complic lexic, yes, And so therefore I 93 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: had learning difficulties for learning the normal things of life, 94 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: like reading and writing and going left and right and 95 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: and all of those kinds of things. And when a 96 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:12,560 Speaker 1: child had any learning difficulties at all in Ireland at 97 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: that time, you have to remember its way way back. 98 00:06:15,640 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: And they were just bandit retireded, and it was as 99 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: I grew older. As I got older, I realized why 100 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: the angels had said I must keep it a secret, 101 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: because if I didn't do what they said, I wouldn't 102 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: be here today talking to you. I would have ended 103 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: up in one of those institutions in Ireland. So I'm 104 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 1: just so glad that my guardian angel and the other 105 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: angels that were always around me kept on reminding me, 106 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,920 Speaker 1: you know, you must keep it a secret. You mustn't 107 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: say say anything. When your mother heard that chapter in 108 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: your book, was at the first time she had known 109 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: that your younger brother or your brother was with you. Yes, 110 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: that that was the first time. She explained to me 111 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: that she always felt his presence around her at certain times. 112 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: But she said to me, you know, with tears in 113 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: her eyes, that in Ireland, way back then, when a 114 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 1: mother lost a child, you weren't really allowed to talk 115 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:20,119 Speaker 1: about it, you know, it was kind of they were told, 116 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: she said, to get on, get on with life, you know, 117 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: you will have more children. And I suppose that was 118 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: the usual thing, maybe said all all around the world. 119 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: So she said she never really got a chance to 120 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: just grieve. She always had to do it secretly. Wow. 121 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's a very sad thing, because I 122 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: know lots of mothers and fathers must have done the 123 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: same thing, you know, back at that time. It's only 124 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: as the world is changing, you're allowed now to grieve, 125 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: and you're allowed to grieve, you know, openly, And I 126 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: think that's so important. But I think it's important to 127 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: remember that your loved one is still alive, because just 128 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: like my little brother, you know who is only his 129 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: his body that died. You know, he had a soul 130 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: which I call that spec of light of God, that 131 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: spark that fills every part of the human body. And 132 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: I suppose that's one of the great messages that was 133 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: in Angels in my hair. And I would always give 134 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 1: more information as I would write more books. In that way, 135 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: I give another little bit because I noticed people find 136 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 1: it hard to cope if you give them too much 137 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: in one go. So I suppose with every book I write, 138 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm just giving a little bit more so you can 139 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 1: grasp what is being said and and the knowledge that 140 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: you're being given for yourself. Do you must have a 141 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: helper writing your book? Being dislike, Yeah, that was the 142 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 1: most incredible story. And the angels all my life always said, 143 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 1: you know, I have to keep it a secret. Of 144 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: one other thing they would say, and that was and 145 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: they're still you know, do the same thing today with me. 146 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: But but on other things. Was that you know, one day, Lorne, 147 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: you you were right about God and us. And you know, 148 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: as a child when they used to say that, I 149 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 1: used to kind of laugh and in a sense like 150 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: a child think they were only playing joking that way, 151 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: but you know, as I became a teenager and they 152 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: said the same thing like I used to kind of 153 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: say it, no way, that can never happen. I can't read, 154 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 1: all right, I'm considered, you know, mentally retarded. And I 155 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 1: know that word is not allowed to be used anymore, 156 00:09:44,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: but that was the word that was used at that time. 157 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: And it was when I was actually married to my husband, Joe. 158 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:57,839 Speaker 1: And again that's another lovely story. But I know I 159 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: won't be able to tell you all the stories to 160 00:10:00,920 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: but they're all in Angels in my Hair and the 161 00:10:03,520 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 1: other books. And it was when the Angel Michael came 162 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 1: up behind me, and it is actually the Archangel Michael. 163 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Just for your listeners, I'll just just say that m 164 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: and he came up and you know, kind of teased me. 165 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: And I was feeling my young daughter and she was 166 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: a baby, and she was asleep in her pram and 167 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: I remember that day was cold and breezy, and I 168 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: was a young mother, you know, having so much to do, 169 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: as as you do with babies and young children. And 170 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: I remember just stopping reeling the pram and turning around 171 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 1: and there was Angel Michael, and you know, he just 172 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: said to me, Lorna, it's getting near time for you 173 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 1: to write. You know, this is the message he was bringing. 174 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: And I remember, you know, holding onto the you know, 175 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: the handlebars of the pram and just kind of getting 176 00:10:59,880 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: annoyed with him. You know, does God not know I 177 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: have enough to do? You know, in that in that way? 178 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,200 Speaker 1: And I just said, well, I can't read it all 179 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,560 Speaker 1: write How on earth does God expect me to even 180 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: write one book? Like I thought it was just totally 181 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: crazy and would never happen. And he just he just said, Lorna, 182 00:11:22,120 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: God has just said, is getting near time for it 183 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:27,960 Speaker 1: for you to write? And I remember walking home and 184 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 1: on my mind, and I knew one day I would 185 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,080 Speaker 1: have to say yes. But I didn't say yes. Then 186 00:11:36,200 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't keep on saying no all of 187 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 1: the time, you know, or or in a sense not 188 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 1: answering in that in that way. And it was many 189 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: years after my husband Joe had died that I actually 190 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: said yes. And and the moment I said yes, those 191 00:11:55,200 --> 00:12:00,240 Speaker 1: blessings just happened. One was someone I had just met 192 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: and they knew I couldn't read or write. And one 193 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: day I came home and knock came. This person walks 194 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: in with two boxes, puts them on the table, has 195 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: a quick chat, cup of tea, you know, just the usual, 196 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: and left. And I remember when I opened the boxes 197 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: there was a laptop and a little box in among 198 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: all of that. To do with the dragonette, that's what 199 00:12:27,200 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: I used today. So you speak it and it turns 200 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: it into the I speak, yeah, that's great, into the 201 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:37,800 Speaker 1: computer and it prints out. Now doesn't always work perfectly, 202 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: so I'm always giving out to God and the angels 203 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: over you know, when do you think they can improve 204 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: technology and print out the exact words I have said. Laura, 205 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: We're going to take a quick break and when we 206 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 1: come back, we want to hear more and about your husband. 207 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,960 Speaker 1: You're listening to Shades of the Actorlife and the I 208 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: Heart Radio Coast to Coast, a m paranormal podcast network. 209 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: Stare right there. There's more, Sandra coming right out. Are 210 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: you looking for that certain someone who shares your interests 211 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: in UFOs, ghosts, Bigfoot, conspiracy theories and the paranormal, Well, 212 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: look no further than paranormal date dot com, the unique 213 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: site for like minded people. 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I'm Sandra champlain and we are here with 223 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: author Laura Byrne, The Lady who Sees Angels. Laura, I 224 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you about your husband Joe, because you've 225 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: believed in angels since you were a child. Is it 226 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,560 Speaker 1: a different kind of grief, because I know we all 227 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: experienced grief. I don't think it's a different kind of 228 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: grief at all. I suppose I should tell you, you know, 229 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 1: when I was the age of ten and again the 230 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: stories and angels in my hair, but I'll skip most 231 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 1: of it, okay, But it was the time I was 232 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 1: fishing with my dad and the angels said to go 233 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: up along the river. There was another angel I was 234 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: to meet and just asking my dad was it okay? 235 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: And and and skipping on up along the river and 236 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: getting to a point and the angels saying stop. And 237 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: I was to look across the river, you know, and 238 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: there appeared this fantastic angel, angel Elijah, and I could 239 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: never pronounce his name. It's only in the last few 240 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: years I'm actually being able to do it. He walked 241 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 1: across the river, and you have to remember I was 242 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: only ten years of age, so that really fascinated me 243 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: about more than any other angel ever had to that 244 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,880 Speaker 1: until I was that age, you know, and just walking 245 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: across across the river. And when he walked onto the bank, 246 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: the first thing I said, one, can I not do that? 247 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 1: Because I wanted to do that? Of course, to me, 248 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: that was was incredible. And he sat down with me 249 00:15:57,760 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 1: and he told me he was going to show me something. 250 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 1: And then the only way I can describe it, like 251 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: a big screen like silk like crystal, appeared across the water, 252 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: just so clear, and he told me to look at it. 253 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: And as I did, he spoke, and a young man 254 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 1: appeared walking up the road with trees on each side 255 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 1: of the road, and he told me that this would 256 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,480 Speaker 1: be the young man I would marry and fall in 257 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: love with. And I was only ten. I remember giggling, 258 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: you know, what's he talking about fall in love with? 259 00:16:37,160 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: You know, I just thought it was so funny, and 260 00:16:40,920 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: he just said, you know, we would have children, ups 261 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 1: and downs. But the part I didn't like that he 262 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: told me was that this young man we wouldn't grow 263 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: all together. He would become sick and he would die. 264 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 1: God would take him home to heaven. And I remember 265 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,280 Speaker 1: being very annoyed with Angel Elijah. I and said, oh, 266 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: why did you have to tell me that. You know, 267 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: what was the need to tell me that? And he 268 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,440 Speaker 1: just said, because God said you needed to know. And 269 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: he put it to the back of my mind. He 270 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: put his hand at the back of my head, and 271 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: in a sense, he put it to the back of 272 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 1: my mind. But I was always very conscious of it. 273 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,879 Speaker 1: And you know, I did fall in love with Joe, 274 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: and we met and we had children, and we had 275 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: all those ups and downs, and we were extremely poor. 276 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:39,440 Speaker 1: And it was hard because I could never tell him, 277 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: I know, we're not going to grow all together, because 278 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,399 Speaker 1: you can't do that to someone, you know, because he 279 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 1: needed to live his life and enjoy it as well 280 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:53,760 Speaker 1: as much as he possibly could, because he was he 281 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 1: was very sick and for such a long part of 282 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: his life. But as for me, it didn't make it uneasier. 283 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:08,560 Speaker 1: Just because I knew it didn't make it uneasier, you know, 284 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: as the days got shorter, when I knew he would 285 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: be soon going, he'd believing us. And that's that particular 286 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: day was very hard on my children. It was the 287 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: day after my birthday and my daughter's birthday. And I 288 00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 1: always remember that day because Joe had said, even though 289 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 1: he was in bed, to myself and Ruth, I want 290 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: just to go off into Dublin, you know, and have 291 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: a nice time, you know, by a present. He wanted 292 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 1: me to buy a ring, and seemingly he had been 293 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 1: saving this money, and I didn't know a friend had 294 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 1: been giving him a few bob every time he came 295 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,920 Speaker 1: to see him. I was just so nervous and so 296 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:58,119 Speaker 1: worried because I knew his time was so close, and 297 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 1: I was praying to God, won't let him go now, 298 00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: let us get home. And of course we did get home. 299 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: I know, I'm skipping rules of story. The next day. 300 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 1: He died the next morning, but my children did get 301 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 1: a chance, unknown to themselves, to say goodbye to their dad. 302 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: It's just the way God had worked it all out. 303 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 1: My daughter Ruth was going away for a weekend with 304 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: her her boyfriend's family for a holiday. They were it 305 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: was just down the country, you know, in a house 306 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:36,440 Speaker 1: they had rented or something his his family had rented. 307 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,000 Speaker 1: And you know, she said goodbye to her dad. She 308 00:19:39,080 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: was saying to her dad, you know, do you think 309 00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 1: it's really all right for me to go? You'll be okay? 310 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: And and he wanted her to go with your birthday off, 311 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:50,160 Speaker 1: your go like and she even said herself she felt 312 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:55,760 Speaker 1: so apprehensive about going. Ohen and Christopher coming in and 313 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: spending time with her dad, sitting at the fire, and 314 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:04,359 Speaker 1: then that evening, you know, the angels saying to me, laurna, 315 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: it is really really very close. Now. He died early 316 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: hours of the morning, I think maybe around seven, but 317 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: he died peacefully, and just seeing all the angels in 318 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: the room and seeing his soul leaving, wow, you know, 319 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: was incredible. And I think that's what everyone who asked 320 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 1: to remember your loved one. It's only the body that 321 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: has died our loved ones. They give us signs all 322 00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: of the time, you know, and sometimes when someone is 323 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: grieving so hard, they don't recognize the signs. But I 324 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 1: would say to say to you, don't give up in 325 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: that way, because as you go through your grief, as 326 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: it gets in one sense maybe a little bit easier, 327 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: you will start to recognize the signs, you know, M. 328 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: But to know that you will meet your loved one again, 329 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 1: but only when it's your time. Have you seen Joe 330 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: like you've seen your brother? So yeah, I have. And 331 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: I have written about my youngest daughter, Megan making her 332 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: confirmation and the soul of her dad walking up to 333 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,680 Speaker 1: the altar with her. And I think that's since thereways 334 00:21:17,680 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 1: to have and I do forget what's in each book, 335 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean. I haven't been able 336 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: to keep up plus what I put in M. And 337 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: that alone has been a great comfort to to everybody 338 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: that has lost a loved one, or even a mother 339 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,760 Speaker 1: and father who have lost a child. You know, a 340 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:41,679 Speaker 1: family might get in contact with me somewhere some way 341 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: and ask, you know, could they bring their their sick 342 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,880 Speaker 1: child to me? And you know, sometimes God would tell 343 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: me this child is to get better, and I bless 344 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: them and pray over them. But sometimes I'm told no. 345 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: And of course I would never say that to the parents. 346 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: I would just give them as much encouragement as as possible, 347 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: and you know, to enjoy their child while their child 348 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:07,200 Speaker 1: is still here physically, you know, in the flesh and blood. Yes. 349 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,160 Speaker 1: I always remember one little boy, you know, he would 350 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: insist on his mom and dad bringing him to visit me. 351 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,919 Speaker 1: I don't know many times I had seen him, but 352 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,480 Speaker 1: the last couple of times he was in no a 353 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: mom and dad is not listening to me. I've been 354 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: trying to tell them I'd be going home soon. And 355 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,360 Speaker 1: sometimes I suppose when he would say that he might 356 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 1: be in hospital, and they would think it was home 357 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: to the house, But the little boy didn't mean that. 358 00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: He meant home to heaven, you know. And and he 359 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:43,119 Speaker 1: would say, and I see my guardian angel now, you know, 360 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 1: and he would describe his guardian angel. And I always 361 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,920 Speaker 1: remember one time he just said, well, you please tell 362 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: Daddy and money you know that I'm going home to 363 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 1: heaven because they're not listening to me. And it was 364 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: really hard. So the only way I could do was 365 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: the most gentlest way, and that was that it is 366 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: time now to spend every moment with your son, you know, 367 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: don't miss a moment, just spend it with your son. 368 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: And of course he went home to heaven a week later, 369 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:21,080 Speaker 1: but I remember getting a letter from the parents and 370 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 1: the they just said thank you for telling us to 371 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 1: spend every moment with her son. That was the most 372 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: precious time. Absolutely, But we do find it hard. It's 373 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: the one thing that tears us apart is losing a 374 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 1: loved one. You know. I met a woman just here 375 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 1: in Ireland and her husband was killed tragically, and you know, 376 00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: she said to me, Lorna, I don't believe in God anymore. 377 00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: How could there be a God? And he took my husband? 378 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 1: Why didn't he leave from here with me? But I 379 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: think we have to remember, you know, mhm. God takes 380 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,960 Speaker 1: us all home to heaven in so many different ways. 381 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: And I know her husband was a car crash, but 382 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,199 Speaker 1: he's he's right there with her as well, and she 383 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,479 Speaker 1: will see him him again. But it can be the 384 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,760 Speaker 1: grief and the pain that makes us angry and makes us, 385 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:24,040 Speaker 1: in her inner sense, disbelieve that God is real or 386 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 1: a guardian angel is real. But the most wonderful thing 387 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: is that God fell in love with us and gave 388 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: us a soul, and that's why your loved one, you 389 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 1: will see a loved one again. You know, God has 390 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: given us this wonderful soul that is pure love. And me, 391 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 1: that is an incredible thing. I always say to people. 392 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 1: You know you are pure love because of your soul. 393 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 1: The more you learn to love yourself, the more that 394 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 1: you can you know, love the stranger, our love, your 395 00:24:56,920 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: loved one. You can't love anyone anymore, and you love yourself. 396 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:06,440 Speaker 1: That's a hard thing I've found, and many people do too. It. 397 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,280 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to love my mom or people 398 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: in my life. Any advice and loving ourselves. The first 399 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: thing you you have to remember is that you have 400 00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,400 Speaker 1: the soul. And because you have your soul, you have 401 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: this beautiful guardian angel that is the gate keeper of 402 00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 1: your soul. And to remember that, you know your soul 403 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: is that spark, that speck of life of God and 404 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: even though it's so so tiny, it fills every part 405 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: of you and you are pure love. That's what you 406 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,520 Speaker 1: have to remember. And you can't delute it or get 407 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 1: rid of it. You can't give too much of it away. 408 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: And yet it's the one thing as well that we're 409 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: afraid of is if I love someone or love them 410 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 1: too much, I'm going to get hurt. And I suppose 411 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:58,239 Speaker 1: that again maybe has to do with that. We know 412 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,000 Speaker 1: humanly you're going to die, but remember your soul listen't 413 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:06,720 Speaker 1: so you can love and sometimes love those heart Laura, 414 00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: we have to take a quick break, but when we 415 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: come back, let's talk about how our guardian Angel feels 416 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 1: about each one of us. You're listening to Shades of 417 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: the Afterlife on the I Heart Radio and Coast to 418 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:29,640 Speaker 1: Coast AM per normal podcast network. Don't go anywhere. There's 419 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: more Shades of the Afterlife coming right up. Okay, folks, 420 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: we need your music. 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You're 430 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,639 Speaker 1: listening to the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 431 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal podcast network, heard on the I Heart Radio app, 432 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you find your favorite shows. Welcome 433 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,239 Speaker 1: back to Shades of the Afterlife. I'm Sanders Champlain and 434 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: we're here with Laurena Byrne, who has inspired millions around 435 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 1: the world with her books about angels. Lorna. I can 436 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 1: imagine if I'm a guardian angel looking at you or 437 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,639 Speaker 1: looking at someone else, all that I could see would 438 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: be unconditional love. Am I right? Exactly? And that is 439 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: very important to remember because your guardian angel loves you 440 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: unconditionally and is there every second of your life, never 441 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: never leads you at all to your guardian angel. You 442 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,359 Speaker 1: know you're it's number one, no other human being in 443 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 1: the world, and it only has eyes for you. But 444 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 1: if we all recognized, you know that we have a 445 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: soul that pure love to be, what would you say, 446 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,879 Speaker 1: no wars, no hatreds, the world would be such a 447 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: different place, absolutely, such a positive place and for love, hope, 448 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: And you know that's what life is about because I 449 00:28:46,360 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: know that's what you wanted to talk about as well. 450 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 1: Life is about living life. It's about loving, enjoying, and 451 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 1: being happy even in the most difficult times of our life. 452 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: To recognize is I am alive, I can breathe, I 453 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,040 Speaker 1: can see all the blessings that you have. Remember saying 454 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: to some people, you know, how many blessings do you 455 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: think you have in your life? And they named out 456 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,520 Speaker 1: actually the what would you say, the material blessings, but 457 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 1: they're not the important blessings. The most important blessings is 458 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: that you have life, that you are alive, that you 459 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,680 Speaker 1: have a soul and a guardian angel, that you can see, 460 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: that you can hear, that you can listen, that you 461 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:38,719 Speaker 1: can walk, that you can do so many things in 462 00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: that way, because when any of them are taken away 463 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: from and that often happens in people's lives, they could 464 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,720 Speaker 1: lose their sight or partly site, they could lose their hearing, 465 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: you know, they could lose the ability to walk, the 466 00:29:54,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: ability to feel touch, even emotions. In that way, everybody 467 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: would give any material thing they possibly could for that 468 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: blessing to come back. Yes, in that way, and again 469 00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: it is you know, a mother says, I would give 470 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: anything for God, if God allows my child to live. 471 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: So you're looking for the blessing of life. There's so 472 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: many stories I could tell you, so I suppose I 473 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:27,000 Speaker 1: better let you ask. That's why you have four books. 474 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 1: One of the nicest things, though, is to know that 475 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: each and every one of us has a guardian Angel. 476 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 1: Is that what you're saying. There's not anyone who doesn't. 477 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,840 Speaker 1: We all have a special being that was greeted us 478 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:45,560 Speaker 1: when we first took our first breath. And I'm guessing, well, 479 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: they guide us to heaven when we take our last breath. Yeah, 480 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: they will take you right home. And I don't know 481 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,479 Speaker 1: what book I have written it in now, but I 482 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: have written about the guardian Angel. You know, you as 483 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: a soul of meeting guardian angel in heaven before you 484 00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,920 Speaker 1: were even conceived, in among that sea of souls, and 485 00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: and your guardian angel walking through the sea of souls 486 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,360 Speaker 1: looking for you and finding you. And I know I'm 487 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: skipping loads love it and stairways to have and it's 488 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm visualizing it though and loving it, and then going 489 00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 1: on a journey walking from there to to where God 490 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: is and standing in front of God and God showing 491 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: the soul all the good and bad things of the life, 492 00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: and the guardian angel being told to make sure that 493 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: it brings back home to heaven, this wonderful soul being 494 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 1: the gatekeeper. But again, the guardian angel or no angel 495 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,640 Speaker 1: or even God doesn't overstep that human thing that we have, 496 00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: the free will. And I know everyone says, well, why 497 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: doesn't God take away free uh, But I think it 498 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,719 Speaker 1: is part of the human part of us, and I 499 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 1: think it's important for us to have it. And when 500 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: you are conceived, your guardian angel is right there with you, 501 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,040 Speaker 1: even in the room. I always remember. I know, I 502 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: don't know what book now I have the story, and 503 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 1: but it's about my own daughter being pregnant and seeing 504 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: the light of her guardian angel around the very beginning 505 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: of her pregnancy. You know, the soul had already come 506 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 1: and the guardian Angel was with it, and I couldn't 507 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: tell my daughter she was pregnant. I had to wait 508 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: for her to find out for herself, you know. And 509 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 1: your guardian angel can never be anyone else's guardian angel. 510 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: And I have written so so much and and it 511 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: doesn't matter whether a person is good or bad. And 512 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: I know people get annoyed with that. But every single 513 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: human being has a guardian angel. And again, it doesn't 514 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:03,680 Speaker 1: matter to what faith they are, our religion they are 515 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 1: even if they say they don't belong to any and 516 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: they all have a cardion angel. That is so special 517 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 1: to know that we have a partner. I'm not the 518 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,200 Speaker 1: only one who very much feels alone sometimes, but to 519 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: really get that we're never alone. Yeah, I know, every 520 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: single and human being has a guardian angel, and to me, 521 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: that is one of the wonderful gifts. I'm so glad 522 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: God fell in love with this. I don't know why 523 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: he did. You know, when you look at the world today, 524 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: how on earth what did you see in us? But 525 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: I think it is incredible that He has given us, 526 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: you know, so that speck of light of himself and 527 00:33:44,880 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 1: a guardian angel that can never leave us even for 528 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 1: one second. I would like to ask you, though, what 529 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure this might be hard to describe, but what 530 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 1: would an angel look like to you or to us? 531 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I grew up Catholic and I think of 532 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 1: the winged beings beautiful, but is that what you see? 533 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,400 Speaker 1: They're extremely beautiful and I always say to people I 534 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 1: would not be able to describe an angel only for 535 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 1: they give a human appearance within themselves, and that's the 536 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,480 Speaker 1: only way I can say it. Sometimes an angel which 537 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: will show wings, but really very seldom. Um it's just 538 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 1: like the archangel Michael. He seldom shows wings. He only 539 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,759 Speaker 1: showed wings on on one particular occasion, and that was 540 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,879 Speaker 1: when you know, he gave me the prayer that God 541 00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:40,320 Speaker 1: had given him. I always feel privileged if an angel 542 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: or even a garden angel shows wings, But when I 543 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 1: think about it, it's not as often, maybe as everyone 544 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,080 Speaker 1: would think. But I do believe every angel has wings. 545 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,800 Speaker 1: And a Christmas time, you know, the gates of heaven 546 00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: are just opened a little bit more about opens them. 547 00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: And there are streams of angel us from before November, 548 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,760 Speaker 1: the beginning of November, just coming to the earth, coming 549 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: to our world, carrying beautiful balls of light, full of 550 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 1: the spirit of Christmas, full of hope and belief, full 551 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 1: of happiness and joy. And I see them dropping them 552 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: on every home. And I have seen this since I 553 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: was a child, dropping them on on every home, whether 554 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: it's a house and an apartment, or a car, or 555 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:32,400 Speaker 1: a shoe box or a tent, wherever people are living. 556 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:36,319 Speaker 1: No matter what, they dropped these balls of light and 557 00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 1: if all the family are not there, they'll come back again. 558 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,440 Speaker 1: And the only way I can describe it, it's like 559 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 1: when they dropped the ball of light, it just explodes 560 00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 1: and it seems to light up the home. And I 561 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 1: would say every nook and cranny, but it touches everybody 562 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 1: within that home, and children are full of the spirit 563 00:35:57,239 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: of Christmas. At this time of the year. I think 564 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 1: we have to remember that no matter what faith you are, 565 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 1: and even if none, most people in the world, and 566 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,120 Speaker 1: I would say it would be very high. Like nearly 567 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:14,400 Speaker 1: nine know of the child that was born two thousand 568 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: years ago, and that child gave us all hope. But 569 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 1: that child was pure love, vulnerable, you know, need a 570 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:28,120 Speaker 1: protection and love. And again it's it's reminding us that 571 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,120 Speaker 1: that's what the children of today need as well. I 572 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you because I saw on your website 573 00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: you have a children's foundation. What is that? Yeah, I 574 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:41,160 Speaker 1: have a children's foundation and the laws are very strict 575 00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 1: here in Ireland and so we're still in negotiations, but 576 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: the charity has been up and running and I'm helping children. 577 00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:55,719 Speaker 1: I get lots of requests in to help children and 578 00:36:56,040 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: from other charges, but sometimes from individuals. We help Blue 579 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: Box here in Ireland it's children that have been traumatized. 580 00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:11,760 Speaker 1: We have children in Africa as well, and we're helping 581 00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: UNISEF as well. With the children on the first I 582 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,839 Speaker 1: think they call it the first grade or number one, 583 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: and because I remember the man saying to us, if 584 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: they don't survive the first set, there's no point having 585 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 1: you know, two, three, four or five in that way. 586 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,840 Speaker 1: So we have to help at home and that's very important, 587 00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:39,120 Speaker 1: but we can't forget about the children that are outside, 588 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: because it's no child's fault that they are in need 589 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: of help or you know, or the hungry, or they're 590 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,719 Speaker 1: traumatized in any way. I had a priest ring me 591 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 1: and said, Lorna, my parish here, because the parish is 592 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 1: kind of alienated. It's it's known as a place where 593 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: you don't go. It's all ad that's the way people 594 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,600 Speaker 1: look on it. But the children are innocent. And he 595 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 1: just said, these children have nothing. I you know, how 596 00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,200 Speaker 1: am I going to manage Santi Claus for them? And 597 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 1: you know, any nice little goodies for them because they 598 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,080 Speaker 1: get so little. But I have to be say say, 599 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,919 Speaker 1: I put the call out and I got a load 600 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 1: of toys selection boxes. So actually the priests downstairs to 601 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,279 Speaker 1: take them back to Limerick here in the house at 602 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:34,200 Speaker 1: the moment. That's great, that's great, he was. He was 603 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: overjoyed when he saw all of all of the things. 604 00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,759 Speaker 1: You know, we have to remember children are innocent, yes, 605 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: and we have to reach out and help. And when 606 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: you lose a loved one, even though you're shattered and hurt, 607 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: your loved one would love you to help as well. 608 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:55,839 Speaker 1: So we're always looking for donations. And on my website 609 00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: there's there's a section that you know says if you 610 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: can don a id to say, even if it's only 611 00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:06,840 Speaker 1: I know your your America one dollar or our fifty cents, 612 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,839 Speaker 1: we we don't care because it all adds up. And 613 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: I always say to someone you never know you know 614 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,360 Speaker 1: which child you have saved. That's wonderful. The power of 615 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,319 Speaker 1: making a difference in a child's life can make a 616 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: huge difference for the rest of their lives. Laura's website 617 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:27,240 Speaker 1: is Lorna burn dot com l O r n A 618 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: b y r n e dot com. After the break, Laurna, 619 00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,400 Speaker 1: we want to talk more. We get some closing thoughts 620 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: from you, and also I'd like your opinion about the 621 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: power of prayer. You're listening to Shades of the Afterlife 622 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio and Coast Coast a m 623 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:54,279 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast network. Don't go anywhere. There's more Shades of 624 00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: the Afterlife coming right up every eight minutes. 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Lorna, before the break, I 635 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: had mentioned the power of prayer. Could you talk a 636 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:25,920 Speaker 1: little bit about that. Prayer is extremely powerful and today 637 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,160 Speaker 1: in today's world, we don't realize that. You know the 638 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 1: expression they use. You know, prayer can move mountains and 639 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:37,360 Speaker 1: literally can and at times I would go on my 640 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: Facebook post and I would ask people to pray, you know, 641 00:41:41,360 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: for peace in the world, for for different things that 642 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,080 Speaker 1: are happening. When we do that, when we pray with 643 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: a pure heart, you you don't have to, you know, 644 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: be kneeling down and say a whole load of prayers off. 645 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,440 Speaker 1: You could be driving your car, you could be sitting 646 00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 1: on a bus, on a train, you could be in 647 00:42:01,160 --> 00:42:03,960 Speaker 1: your office and all of a sudden the thought comes 648 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,320 Speaker 1: across your mind to pray. And that's your guardian angel 649 00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,200 Speaker 1: to telling you, you know that somewhere in the world 650 00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,719 Speaker 1: prayer is needed and you should pray. And even if 651 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,640 Speaker 1: it is just one word, you know, sometimes the most 652 00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,600 Speaker 1: powerful prayer can be you know, a mother or a 653 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: father and I know that has been happening, where horrific 654 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:27,920 Speaker 1: things have have happened in the world today, and or 655 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 1: even happening at this moment when a father or a 656 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 1: mother or a child cries out, you know, even the 657 00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:39,239 Speaker 1: word help, and that's a prayer whither cry out God 658 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,719 Speaker 1: help us or why is this happening? Help? You know? 659 00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,240 Speaker 1: In that way, it doesn't matter what way one praise. 660 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: Prayer is prayer. And every time I see people in prayer. 661 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,040 Speaker 1: You know, I could be walking down the road and 662 00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: someone is walking the far side of the road and 663 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,000 Speaker 1: I know they're praying because I would see. The only 664 00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,719 Speaker 1: way I can describe it is like you can imagine 665 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,680 Speaker 1: Niagara Falls is I don't know if that's the biggest 666 00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:14,359 Speaker 1: it's big waterfall in the world. You could imagine that 667 00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,080 Speaker 1: being billions of times bigger, and instead of coming down, 668 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: it's going up because it's all angels. It's angels of 669 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: prayer in enhancing our prayers, imploring for the good thing 670 00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:31,480 Speaker 1: that we're asking of. It all possible, but we have 671 00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 1: to listen. And sometimes I would ask people to pray 672 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 1: for particular leaders in the world, and sometimes I get back, 673 00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 1: how dare you ask? You know they're so bad? And 674 00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 1: I won't say other things they might say they will 675 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: never change if we don't pray for them, won't stop 676 00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: and hesitate and listen and allow themselves to feel the 677 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: compassion in their heart of what their guardian angels is saying. 678 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: And as we pray. I have been praying for an 679 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:04,120 Speaker 1: order in Ireland because we've had war here in order 680 00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:07,280 Speaker 1: in Ireland, you know, for as long as I can remember. 681 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,799 Speaker 1: Now we have peace. But still the angels still keep 682 00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,279 Speaker 1: asking me to keep on praying that peace remains in 683 00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 1: ordern Ireland because Northern Ireland is the cornerstone of peace 684 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: for the world. And that's one thing we have to 685 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 1: remember it. It doesn't matter whether you agree with the 686 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: government or a leader, they won't change unless we pray. 687 00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:33,880 Speaker 1: And that's what happened one day. I remember, you know, 688 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,000 Speaker 1: hearing on the radio and I just smiled with joy. 689 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: And it was a man called Paisley and he turned 690 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:46,400 Speaker 1: around two reporters or m whoever was there, and he 691 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,880 Speaker 1: just said his words were, we have to stop killing 692 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 1: each other. And that was the beginning, that moment when 693 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:56,520 Speaker 1: peace started. I know it took a long long time, 694 00:44:56,680 --> 00:45:00,680 Speaker 1: but it was the beginning of the talks. And and 695 00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,359 Speaker 1: they have peace now. And it's wonderful to be able 696 00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:06,360 Speaker 1: to go up there and children can go to school 697 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: and they know their mom and dad will be at home. 698 00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 1: They wouldn't have got killed or shot or a bomb 699 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: or and parents know that their child is going to 700 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: come home from school as well then that they're not 701 00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:22,520 Speaker 1: going to be blown up. It's just wonderful to see 702 00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,920 Speaker 1: young people hop off a bus and go into the 703 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,960 Speaker 1: shopping centers now and everything like that. So prayer is 704 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:33,120 Speaker 1: extremely powerful. And it's so interesting because we just had 705 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 1: a change in president in our country and people everybody 706 00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,200 Speaker 1: has their own opinions, but a lot of people say, well, 707 00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 1: what can I do. I'm just one person, and I'm 708 00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: just thinking, you know, all the leaders in the world, 709 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: if we remember that they have that spark, that they 710 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:50,840 Speaker 1: are a soul, and that prayer does work, that is 711 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,800 Speaker 1: something we can do because we all want places. And 712 00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: I pray for your president, your new president. I pray 713 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 1: that somehow, no matter what everyone thinks of him, that 714 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:07,800 Speaker 1: somehow he will listen and he will make as many 715 00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,399 Speaker 1: of the right decisions as possible. I know we will 716 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:13,839 Speaker 1: probably make some wrong, but as many of the right 717 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,279 Speaker 1: that is possible for America and for the rest of 718 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 1: the world. Yeah, you know, you you it does work. 719 00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:27,360 Speaker 1: And no matter what ups and downs we have in 720 00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,279 Speaker 1: our lives, just always remember you will get through them 721 00:46:30,320 --> 00:46:33,319 Speaker 1: because of prayer, because someone else is praying for you 722 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:36,600 Speaker 1: the stranger. I have people praying for the stranger, the 723 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:39,399 Speaker 1: people they don't know, all over the world, and that's 724 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 1: an important thing to remember and to pray for our leaders. 725 00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: Of the world, whether the presidents or governments or princess 726 00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:50,319 Speaker 1: or kings, we have to we have to pray for 727 00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: them that they will will listen and have compassion and 728 00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:57,239 Speaker 1: love and make the right decisions because we have to 729 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:02,480 Speaker 1: head towards a better peaceful world than what we have. Absolutely, 730 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,880 Speaker 1: and each one of us can make a difference. They're Laura, 731 00:47:06,040 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 1: thank you. Was delighted to be talking with you and 732 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: all of your listeners, but thank you for all that 733 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,480 Speaker 1: you do, and even for being courageous enough to listen 734 00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,799 Speaker 1: to the angels and share your story and to have 735 00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,400 Speaker 1: a million plus readers worldwide and give people hope and 736 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,520 Speaker 1: give people direction and love. And it's the biggest, most 737 00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 1: comforting thing, even though you said a lot, is just 738 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,560 Speaker 1: to know that there's someone standing behind me or by 739 00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,400 Speaker 1: my side, that each one of us has this guardian 740 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: angel that loves us unconditionally. And I'm it's number one. 741 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:50,680 Speaker 1: I love that wows. Yeah, to have a partner, a teammate, 742 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,719 Speaker 1: it's just wonderful. So thank you. Yeah, and for our listeners, 743 00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:58,040 Speaker 1: don't go we just yet. I've got something special for 744 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,520 Speaker 1: you planned I'd like to give you just a little 745 00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:05,200 Speaker 1: meditation that you can use to meet your guardian Angel. 746 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: So if you're driving, you can listen to this later 747 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,960 Speaker 1: or pull over to the side of the road, but 748 00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,520 Speaker 1: take a moment. Will you slow down, take a few 749 00:48:14,520 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: deep breaths, and when you're ready, just close your eyes 750 00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:22,800 Speaker 1: and as you continue to just take some deep breaths. 751 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: I want you to imagine, before you came to Earth, 752 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:32,640 Speaker 1: you are profoundly intelligent being wants to enrich your soul 753 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: and learn more. And you know in the before life 754 00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: you can only get so far with your advancement because 755 00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: where there is good all of the time, you don't 756 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:49,719 Speaker 1: experience negative and you don't experience those times that give 757 00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:53,239 Speaker 1: you the most soul growth. Because any one of us 758 00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:56,880 Speaker 1: souls who lives on Earth knows that the toughest times 759 00:48:56,880 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: in our life are the things that shape us for 760 00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: who we are meant to be in the future, for 761 00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:06,960 Speaker 1: the lives we can impact because we have been there before. 762 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:10,920 Speaker 1: So as a soul, you choose to come into Earth, 763 00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 1: but before you do, you are with your guardian Angel. 764 00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:20,760 Speaker 1: You have this supreme being who loves you, who holds 765 00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:24,560 Speaker 1: your hand, who talks to you about how life will be, 766 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: how you will forget who you really are. But as 767 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: you go through your life, this being, this angel, assures 768 00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:37,239 Speaker 1: you that they will always be by your side, that 769 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,800 Speaker 1: they will try to give you clues in the way 770 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:44,680 Speaker 1: of synchronicities, in the way of random thoughts that just 771 00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:50,560 Speaker 1: appear about different things, reminding you of special times. Imagine 772 00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:54,560 Speaker 1: this being now with you at the time of your birth, 773 00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:59,000 Speaker 1: and as you grow up, loving you and cheering you on, 774 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,319 Speaker 1: and as you become a young person and try to 775 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 1: find your way in the world, and when you become 776 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:10,400 Speaker 1: a teenager, perhaps through your first heartbreak, this being is 777 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:16,520 Speaker 1: right there, comforting you, loving you. However, the older you get, 778 00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,240 Speaker 1: you seem to forget how much you are loved. Take 779 00:50:22,320 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: a moment at your current age and be in your 780 00:50:27,239 --> 00:50:33,920 Speaker 1: guardian angels shoes. Imagine them right now by your side, 781 00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:41,360 Speaker 1: holding your hands, looking at you, loving you, feeling so 782 00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: much love, enjoy for all that you've experienced in life. 783 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,920 Speaker 1: For them telling you that every step of this road 784 00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:57,360 Speaker 1: has been your grand adventure, for your soul to grow 785 00:50:57,880 --> 00:51:00,960 Speaker 1: and to learn, for you to be able to be 786 00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:06,160 Speaker 1: a gift to other people. Your guardian angel tries to 787 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:10,000 Speaker 1: show you a little life review of all the good 788 00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:13,200 Speaker 1: that you've done. And all the growth that you've had. 789 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: So take a moment now from an outsider's point of view, 790 00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:32,880 Speaker 1: as your guardian angel, to feel love for you. And 791 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: now you can open your eyes and although you may 792 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:41,719 Speaker 1: see an invisible space around you, you can trust that 793 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: not only your guardian angel is right there next to you, 794 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 1: holding your hand, walking with you every step you take, 795 00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 1: but also your loved ones who are no longer walking 796 00:51:56,680 --> 00:52:01,160 Speaker 1: this earth. Sure they have work to do in the hereafter, 797 00:52:01,880 --> 00:52:05,239 Speaker 1: but they're only a thought away, and so right now 798 00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:09,960 Speaker 1: bring them in being with you that love that they 799 00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: have for you. Feel it. Your guardian angel wants to 800 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:21,120 Speaker 1: remind you that you chose to come into this life. 801 00:52:21,719 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 1: There are hardships, for sure, but the gift of being 802 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,920 Speaker 1: who you are. You are one of a kind, You 803 00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:35,319 Speaker 1: are special, You are loved, and the last thing they 804 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,560 Speaker 1: want to share with you is to remember by loving 805 00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,399 Speaker 1: another and making a difference for another is how you 806 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: get to feel this love right back. What little action 807 00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:52,759 Speaker 1: can you take to share your love and be a 808 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:57,680 Speaker 1: guardian angel to someone else. I'm Sandra Champlain. I want 809 00:52:57,680 --> 00:53:01,760 Speaker 1: to thank you so much for listening. 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