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Speaker 1: The Sun is One Bill's Live, presented by Call Light

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Speaker 1: of Health. All right, welcome to One Bill's Live. Here

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Speaker 1: on a Tuday, it is usually transaction day, and that

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Speaker 1: is just what has happened as we have a couple

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Speaker 1: of moves on Buffalo's practice squad. To kick off the day,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Justin Zimmer is back. The Bills have

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Speaker 1: signed defensive tackle Justin Zimmer and cornerback Jordan Miller to

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. To make room for them, they have

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Speaker 1: released defensive tackle CJ. Brewer and Prince Emilie from the

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Speaker 1: practice squad. So in the last week Steve, two defensive

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Speaker 1: tackles who actually played in a fair amount of games

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Speaker 1: for the Bills last year have been added back to

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Speaker 1: Buffalo's practice squad. Ilianku had an injury in training camp

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Speaker 1: and was released and now is healthy in his back

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Speaker 1: on the Bills practice squad. And now today they add

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Speaker 1: Justin Zimmer, who suffered a torn acl in practice in

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Speaker 1: week eight last year. He was medically cleared in mid September.

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Speaker 1: He is good to go. Kind of cool. We get

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Speaker 1: those two guys back. They were pretty good in the

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Speaker 1: run front, and Zimmer's an athlete. Yeah, I know you

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Speaker 1: like him as we crossed paths with him, you and

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Speaker 1: And he's been he moved back to Houston, was doing

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Speaker 1: all his rehab and everything back there, got cleared to play.

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Speaker 1: Bills brought him in. He says he feels great. And

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Speaker 1: I was on him hard to start lobbying to be

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Speaker 1: the Patrick Ricard of the Buffalo Bills because he runs

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Speaker 1: eighteen miles an hour. Yeah, we saw it on the

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Speaker 1: next gen stat last year. Zimmer would be a great

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Speaker 1: guy to line up as a fullback move around. He's

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Speaker 1: a great athlete. Runs. Fact, he got real good speed,

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Speaker 1: at least in the open field. I don't know about

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Speaker 1: can run down. He's a guy that forced the fumble

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Speaker 1: on Cam Newton two years ago in twenty twenty, went

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Speaker 1: in the win here in Orchard Park. So um back

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Speaker 1: on the back in the saddle is uh is Justin Zimmer?

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Speaker 1: Elion Kup back on the on the team as well

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Speaker 1: after now that they're both fully healthy, and let's face it,

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Speaker 1: I mean the Bills need need healthy bodies, and these

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Speaker 1: guys they thought we were upgrades. I guess, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, in the estimation of the team, I would

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Speaker 1: assume that based on, you know, the releases of Brewer

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Speaker 1: game action through these first four weeks and they helped.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Emilia had the tip pass last Sunday that

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Speaker 1: it's about the ceiling. I think probably they think Zimmer

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Speaker 1: and Encu have a higher ceiling than you know, Emilily

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Speaker 1: and Brewer Ku is a load man. Yeah, and he

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Speaker 1: played Okay. I mean, it's not likely you don't like

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Speaker 1: these guys. They wish they could keep all of them,

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Speaker 1: no question. But you know they've got a history with

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Speaker 1: and they wanted to bring him back. And plus sometimes

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Speaker 1: when you get to that point you said it today,

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Speaker 1: it's not just the Buffalo Bills. Every team died. I've

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Speaker 1: had conversations with head coaches over the years, and when

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Speaker 1: For the time being, even though Prince Emilie and CJ.

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Speaker 1: team's healthy, everybody all these rosters, every team spends time

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Speaker 1: Actually it just got announced at the top of the show.

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Speaker 1: But they're here for a reason because of injuries, and

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Speaker 1: injuries have been a problem through the first month of

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Speaker 1: this past Sunday when we saw Jamison Crowder go out

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Speaker 1: And with that in mind, we know this is a

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Speaker 1: Some of you, said might be thinking, oh, you know what,

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Speaker 1: It's roster's chock full. Of talent. We're just going to

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Speaker 1: on that subject. Eight oh three five fifty one eight

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Speaker 1: the tweet sheet. As always, at one Bills Live, we

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Speaker 1: noteworthy comments from head coach Sean McDermott, along with defensive

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Speaker 1: you know that around the NFL, it's that time, Steve,

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Speaker 1: we go around the NFL, presented by Kalida Health, the

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Speaker 1: official healthcare system of the Bills, and there is news

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Speaker 1: out of Pittsburgh today as the much anticipated news is

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Speaker 1: now official. The Steelers are moving forward with Kenny Pickett

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Speaker 1: as their starting quarterback. He will start here in Week five,

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Speaker 1: his first NFL start against the Bills and their number

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Speaker 1: a quarterback problem. Oh sure, it is more than just

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Speaker 1: but he doesn't look really fast. I mean it's like

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Speaker 1: he's just chugging at as strong as an ox. I

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Speaker 1: know they couldn't get him, can't knock that kid down.

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Speaker 1: And I say, the Niners were all in Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: last night. They and they. I'm just gonna tell you,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know Bills fans don't see the Niners

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Speaker 1: a whole lot. That defense is load. Yeah, you asked

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Speaker 1: me to pick a defense that might be better than

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Speaker 1: the Bills, I would pick this one. Yeah, they're up

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Speaker 1: there too. I would. I would exactly right now for

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Speaker 1: number one defense and footballers. If you asked me to

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Speaker 1: pick somebody else besides the Bills, it's these guys. I'll

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Speaker 1: say this too. Both of them have the ability to

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Speaker 1: make some play. He makes some big plays. The Bills.

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Speaker 1: We say it all the time. The last year, the

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Speaker 1: Bills offense was really good, really good, but they never

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Speaker 1: got turnovers, didn't get a ton of sacks, didn't get

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Speaker 1: timely sacks, didn't get timely turnovers. This year that's different. Yes,

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Speaker 1: the Bills are getting it when they need it, you know.

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Speaker 1: Poyer the perfect example this last week the early games,

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Speaker 1: same thing. They got the turnovers when they needed it.

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Speaker 1: In crucial moments when the other team was either climbing

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Speaker 1: back in it or had a chance to stay alive,

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Speaker 1: the Bills shut them off with great plays either turnovers

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Speaker 1: or sacks or some big play. Niners are the same

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Speaker 1: way this year. They're getting it when they want it,

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Speaker 1: when they need it. When the other team gets a

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Speaker 1: little bit desperate starts to make some plays, they shut

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Speaker 1: them off. And that to me, that's the biggest difference

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Speaker 1: for the Bills between this year and last year, and

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Speaker 1: the Niners are exactly like in both of them are

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Speaker 1: number one. Yeah, that's yeah, So I'm with you. Nothing

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Speaker 1: sneeze at for sure. That is around the NFL presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Healthy, official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills.

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Speaker 1: We are talking to you, though about the recent injury

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Speaker 1: bug that has bitten the Bills. Two receivers down this week,

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Speaker 1: only adding to the injury list. What is your level

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Speaker 1: of faith in the depth of the Bill's roster in

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Speaker 1: light of these last couple of injuries. Let's go to

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Speaker 1: the phones at eight O three oh, five fifty fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifteen. We lead off with Clarence in Buffalo. What

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Speaker 1: do you got first, Clarence, Good afternoon, guys. How are

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Speaker 1: you doing good? Good? Good. I'm I'm a little concerned

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Speaker 1: in regards to our wide receiving corps, mainly because of

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Speaker 1: the injuries and the people that we've lost or our

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Speaker 1: ailing at the time our veterans are wide receivers. I'm wondering.

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you, guys, what do you think the Bills

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Speaker 1: should do? Because I know they got faith in their

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Speaker 1: younger receivers, but like I said, we've lost the veteran

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Speaker 1: wide receivers and we need to I think we need

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Speaker 1: to bring in somebody who's a veteran who can help

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Speaker 1: this team because we're in a winning move mode right

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Speaker 1: now and I look like we can't really make a

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Speaker 1: lot of mistakes with our receivers. Yeah we get healthy. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good it's it's a good point. And you're right,

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Speaker 1: that is that's a place where you look at anything. Man,

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Speaker 1: we need we need those guys to be This is

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Speaker 1: a passing offense. Yeah, they throw the football and that's

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Speaker 1: that's why you got to have him healthy. And if

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Speaker 1: you go down the guys they have on the active

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Speaker 1: roster right now, it's you know, it's well, Crowder is

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Speaker 1: gonna go on R he's got, he's down gas. Gabe

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Speaker 1: Davis is not one hundred percent. Steph Diggs is a

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Speaker 1: warrior and he absolutely carried him last week. Kumero ankle, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Mackenzie concussion protocol. And then it's Khalil Shakir. That's it, right,

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Speaker 1: So you got Shakir, Diggs, Davis, and Davis isn't one

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Speaker 1: hundred percent and that's it. So they will be when

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Speaker 1: they put Crowder on IR, I would assume they would

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Speaker 1: add a receiver in that and whether it is from

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Speaker 1: outside the organization or the practice squad's going to be

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. And they got they got Tavon Austin, yep,

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Speaker 1: Isaiah Hodgens and Tanner Gentry. So here's the here's the

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Speaker 1: question that I think the Bills are asking right now.

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Speaker 1: If they feel they need to add more of a

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Speaker 1: physical presence to their receiving core, it will be Isaiah Hodgens.

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Speaker 1: If they feel they need to add more speed to

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Speaker 1: their receiving core, it would be Tavon Austin. I think

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Speaker 1: a Tavon Austin elevation is predicated on where Isaiah Mackenzie

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Speaker 1: stands in the concussion protocol. If it looks like he

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Speaker 1: has a chance to return this week, and they want

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Speaker 1: more physicality for their receiving core, knowing you don't have

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Speaker 1: Kumero and knowing Gabe Davis isn't one hundred percent healthy,

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Speaker 1: it's probably Blee Hodgens. If you need speed, it will

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Speaker 1: be Austin. And let's not forget this, Steve. If Mackenzie

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Speaker 1: is potentially not gonna get back in time this week,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna need a kickoff returning, right, which is Tavon Austin, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I mean James Cook is another consideration there. But right, Tanner,

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Speaker 1: you're back up punt returners Khalil Shakir, so you're covered there, right,

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Speaker 1: And I think even Tanner Gentry would be a guy

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Speaker 1: that would come in and he would be like a

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Speaker 1: Kumero guy. He'd be covered, he'd be covered kicks, not

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Speaker 1: returning kicks. But if if you're right, it all hinges.

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Speaker 1: Most of it hinges on Mackenzie because of his versatility.

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Speaker 1: He can return punts, he can play wide receiver and

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Speaker 1: return kicks and return kickers. So all of that's on

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Speaker 1: the table, and so that I'm totally with you who

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Speaker 1: because let's face it, whoever replaces Crowder, to me, that's

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Speaker 1: a long term replacement. And that's interesting. That might be Shakier, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: Shaquier's already in, I know, but I'm saying in terms

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Speaker 1: of time on the field time, Oh yeah, there's no

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Speaker 1: question Shaquire's the guy in because he's been there and

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Speaker 1: he's done it, and he's and he's making the most

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Speaker 1: of his opportunities. You're not going to pull him now.

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Speaker 1: But I'm thinking that guy, whoever it is gonna be,

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Speaker 1: is gonna be a long term solution for Crowder's absence.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a little bit more Tavon Austin than

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Speaker 1: it is Isaiah Hodgens because of the versatility. Hodgens plays

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Speaker 1: wide receiver and that's a full stop. It's not wide

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Speaker 1: receiver slash kick returner, wide receiver slash kick cover. Tavon

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Speaker 1: Austin at least gives you the kick and punt returns

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Speaker 1: and he's got some and some slot and some juice. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So that's our initial look at it. We'll see how

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Speaker 1: the week unfolds with Isaiah mackenzie and his injury report

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Speaker 1: designation and the chances of him getting out of concussion protocol.

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Speaker 1: We take a break here. When we come back more

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Speaker 1: of your phone calls, but we will also provide you

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Speaker 1: some of the more notable comments from head coach Sean

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Speaker 1: McDermott and what he had to say about Trudavious White,

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Speaker 1: who would be eligible to begin practicing this week. We'll

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Speaker 1: get his comments on Trudavious. Also here from Leslie Frasier

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Speaker 1: on what he thought of Damar Hamlin's first career start

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Speaker 1: and how that went or sorry, second career start. His

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Speaker 1: first start was in Miami the week before. And we

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Speaker 1: also hear from offensive coordinator Ken Dorsey. All of them

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Speaker 1: coming your way next here on One Bills Live, presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: back to One Bills Live. Before we get to the

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Speaker 1: comments by coach McDermott, Leslie Frasier, and Ken Dorsey, Steve,

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Speaker 1: it's got to be a treat to cover Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 1: because he's always got those one liners. I mean we've

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Speaker 1: seen him before, right, yeah. Uh, he just had one

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Speaker 1: today at his press conference, so one of the Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: area reporters asked him. Actually it was Jennah Harner, who

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Speaker 1: used to work for a Channel four here in Buffalo

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Speaker 1: before going down there. Uh, just for his thoughts on

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Speaker 1: Von Miller. Here is Here is Mike Tomlin's quote when

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Speaker 1: asked about the exploits of Von Miller. Quote. He's Von Miller.

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Speaker 1: Some guys are aliens visiting from another planet. That's the

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Speaker 1: That's all he said. Yeah, yeah, von wears this the

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Speaker 1: chrome suit, and he's just fresh off where the space

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Speaker 1: suit so right in line. Yeah, I guess Tomlin saw

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Speaker 1: the poto. Uh. Tomlin's an American treasure. I gotta tell you.

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Speaker 1: As far as he's fantastic, he's a He speaks to them,

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Speaker 1: you know, and I don't want to, you know, go

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Speaker 1: too far down this rabbit. He speaks to the masculine

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Speaker 1: entity of an NFL rock locker room. He knows how

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Speaker 1: to how to strum that Corey very big he has.

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Speaker 1: He is unapologetic for the standard he keeps his players

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Speaker 1: in his organization too, and he is intolerant of a

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Speaker 1: media narrative that sometimes tries to change it in any way,

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Speaker 1: shape or form. And he will not allow it. And

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Speaker 1: I just I just tip my hat Tom, and it

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Speaker 1: tickles me every time I see an example of it.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they, you know, they the Pittsburgh Seeters. Last

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Speaker 1: year's schedule is a great one. It's now it's a meme.

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Speaker 1: The schedule gave them like three road games and one

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Speaker 1: of them was on a short week, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: it was a tough stretch of the schedule, and they

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Speaker 1: asked him, are you know what do you guys? He goes,

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Speaker 1: are you guys really did you say anything to the

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Speaker 1: league about this stretch and how you know kind of

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Speaker 1: unfair it was, and he just said, we do not care.

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Speaker 1: It was the perfect tact to take. You can't make it.

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Speaker 1: They're not changing the schedule and they're not doing it

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Speaker 1: purposely to stab you in the back. You just gotta

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Speaker 1: live with it. And everybody's got one thing or two

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Speaker 1: that they don't like. He said, we don't care. We

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Speaker 1: do not care. And just those simple words and the

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Speaker 1: attitude with which he said them, in the finality of

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Speaker 1: it is it just hits the perfect chord for guys

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Speaker 1: who have to go out and play in those games.

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Speaker 1: From head coach Mike Tomlin. We moved to head coach

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Speaker 1: Sean McDermott, who, as we predicted on yesterday's show, was

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Speaker 1: asked rather quickly right off the bat the status of

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Speaker 1: cornerback Trdavious White, who has been on reserve pup. He

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Speaker 1: was ineligible to practice or play in the season's first

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Speaker 1: four weeks. Now we are here in week five, so

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Speaker 1: it was asked the likelihood of Tradevius White practicing this week?

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Speaker 1: Here was coach McDermott's answer, Yeah, I mean, he continues

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Speaker 1: tom prove and his rehab and we'll get him back

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Speaker 1: out there when he's ready. Really, that's all I have

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Speaker 1: for it. There were follow up questions he asked. No

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Speaker 1: new information was given besides what you heard right there.

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Speaker 1: We can read between the lines as best as we want, Steve.

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Speaker 1: For all we know, Turdevius could be out there practicing tomorrow,

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Speaker 1: or he may not be practicing again until after the

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Speaker 1: bye week. He may frame of reference here based on

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Speaker 1: which coach coach McDermott said, and he may be. He

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Speaker 1: may not be able to practice then either they he

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Speaker 1: may force the Bills into having to make another decision

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Speaker 1: in twenty one days about his status going forward. We

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Speaker 1: just don't know. You and I have both think about it.

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Speaker 1: Every guy's completely different, justin Zimmer perfect example, week eight

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Speaker 1: of last year. Now they just signed him. He's fully

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Speaker 1: cleared to play. Who's the guy that came back this

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Speaker 1: Chris Chris Godwin out Aco after trade or three weeks

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Speaker 1: before Turdevius got heard he's back now, No, it was

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Speaker 1: three weeks after, three weeks after Tavis. He came back sooner, right,

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Speaker 1: and is not good? Right? So turdevis on Thanksgiving last

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Speaker 1: year in New Orleans, Well that was week twelve. We're

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Speaker 1: in week five. Yeah, and the full calendar usually it's

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Speaker 1: like that's kind of the thing these days, the full

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Speaker 1: calendar year and some guys earlier, some guys later, whatever.

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Speaker 1: But there you're at. That's where you're at. And as

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Speaker 1: you pointed out, every case is different. Yeah, Okay, the

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Speaker 1: Bucks decided to bring Godwin back sooner. He tore his

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Speaker 1: ACL in week fourteen. Tredevious tore his ACL in week twelve.

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Speaker 1: He's not even practicing yet. Godwin was practicing and playing

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Speaker 1: in training camp and played in I think the last

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Speaker 1: preseason game and then started right from the jump. But

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Speaker 1: he's been in and out of the lineup through the

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Speaker 1: first month of the season. Justin Zimmer tore his ACL

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Speaker 1: in Bill's practice in Week eight last season, and he

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00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 1: was cleared in mid September or yes, mid September, he

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00:37:55,800 --> 00:38:00,320
Speaker 1: was fully medically cleared, not by the Bill because he

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Speaker 1: wasn't with the Bills at that time. He was medically

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Speaker 1: cleared by a doctor, his physician in mid September and

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Speaker 1: had a try out here last week. The Bills like

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Speaker 1: what they saw. They signed him to the practice squad

643
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Speaker 1: today and he is fully cleared to practice and off

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Speaker 1: he goes. So he tore his ACL a month before

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Speaker 1: Tredevius tore his Now what does that mean? Probably nothing,

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00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 1: so don't start as signing timetables. But based on coach

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Speaker 1: McDermott's sich answer to that question, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: we should expect to see Tredevious on the practice field tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: It's hard to know. Yeah, I don't expect it. I

650
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: don't maybe hard to know, hard to see. It's hard

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Speaker 1: to know because he knowing that Tredevius is a month

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00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,799
Speaker 1: behind Zimmer's ACL injury, does that mean he's a month

653
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Speaker 1: behind him now? And we've seen all through the off season,

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00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 1: we've seen Tredevious White and you know, to the to

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Speaker 1: my eye, I mean ten months ago, you couldn't tell

656
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: the guy was injured, you know what I mean. But

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00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: I didn't sit there and watch him bend his knee

658
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: and how you know, how he feels and what it is,

659
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: and that's you know, everything that has to go into

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Speaker 1: evaluating the guy. And the guy's got It's not like

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Speaker 1: he's coming and I don't want to disparage any position,

662
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 1: but he's not coming back to be a long snapper

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Speaker 1: or a guard. He's coming back to play corner in

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Speaker 1: the NFL, and it's the most physically demanding position, one

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00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 1: of the most physically demanding positions there is because when

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00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: you're athleticism, being able to run and move and cut

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Speaker 1: and jump and whatever, tackle a lot of demand on

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Speaker 1: the joints. It's all I mean, goodness, gracious. I mean

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Speaker 1: you you'd be hard pressed to find another maybe a

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Speaker 1: basketball player maybe, but even then the collisions aren't what

671
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: they are. You don't really hit the ground right. So

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00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 1: it's you got to be right to play that spot.

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00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to be one hundred percent feeling

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00:39:54,360 --> 00:40:00,040
Speaker 1: good feeling right, let's not, let's not forget this. He

675
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Speaker 1: can start practicing. It would open up a twenty one

676
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: day practice window and then if you want to clear

677
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: him to play now, you got to make a roster

678
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,279
Speaker 1: spot for him. Now with Jamison Crowder presumably going on

679
00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:16,759
Speaker 1: IR one could potentially be there. But there's also a

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Speaker 1: whole at wide receiver that you gotta fill. Yeahs over

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Speaker 1: on the other side. Plus and it's a little bit

682
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: like the Dak Prescott thing in Dallas where the backup

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00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:27,400
Speaker 1: has gone three and over four and oh, there's not

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00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,879
Speaker 1: much wrong with this defense right now. Yeah, so they're

685
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: not do they need to rush him? But they're not.

686
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,239
Speaker 1: They don't have a blowtorch sitting there heating up the seat.

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00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:37,359
Speaker 1: You're down Benford, who's injured but on the roster right,

688
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Speaker 1: and he had hand surgery last week and coach said

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Speaker 1: he'd be missing a couple of games, at least a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks, he said last week and presumably this

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Speaker 1: week as well. You don't you'd rather have thumb surgery

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Speaker 1: for a cornerback than knee surgery, I mean, right than

693
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Speaker 1: anybody because you got to be able to run at

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Speaker 1: corner you've seen guys play with their hand wrapped and

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00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,520
Speaker 1: you know, thumb and all. I mean, I've I've got

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00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:01,759
Speaker 1: more foot ball cards with my picture with a in

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00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,359
Speaker 1: a cast on my hand than I do without. So

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00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: it's possible. Certainly it's going to bother him as his

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00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 1: attempt to snatch an interception, but certainly he can cover

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Speaker 1: guys if he can get up and run. The question

701
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Speaker 1: is the roster hole is a wide receiver and and

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00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: you are down one corner, You're down a corner Benford. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's you could be down two receivers depending on McKenzie's

704
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: status this week, and concussion protocol could be down too,

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Speaker 1: and you could put one of them like you could

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Speaker 1: have put Benford on the four week i R. But

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Speaker 1: that why would you do that if you don't have

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Speaker 1: anybody plug in there? Yeah, so we'll see. We have

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Speaker 1: to take a break here. When we come back, we'll

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Speaker 1: get more of the comments from coach Fraser and coach

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Speaker 1: Dorsey going forward, some tomorrow Hamlin comments and how he's doing,

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Speaker 1: and the production from rookie Khalil Shaker last week. We'll

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Speaker 1: get to those when we return here. On One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 1: they're in, They're in. I haven't had one yet, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm kind of looking forward. But let me just

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Speaker 1: it is apple picking season, without question. I'm gonna have one.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait. I will too. They're a cross. Are

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Speaker 1: You're an apple guy right? Like generally generally generally, I'm

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Speaker 1: an absolutely, absolutely love them. That's the behind the banana.

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Speaker 1: They're probably my favorite fruit. Oh, bananas your number one,

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00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 1: think so really, But apple's close because apples are particularly

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Speaker 1: in West western New York. You can't well if you

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Speaker 1: live here without a love an apple. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 1: apple apple picking the whole nine yards. But I'm with you,

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Speaker 1: I can't. I want to try one of these. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say this. When I travel to other states,

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Speaker 1: like when we want to get out of the weather

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Speaker 1: in the winter, you know, we'll go down to Florida

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Speaker 1: for a week or something. You go to the grocery

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Speaker 1: store down there and you get to the apple rack,

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Speaker 1: I was like, where all the apples? I have like

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Speaker 1: one or two kinds of apples. That's it here if

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Speaker 1: that you know, I mean, I know Wegman's is going

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Speaker 1: to have snap dragon apples. But you go in there,

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Speaker 1: it's like ten kinds of apples. It's awesome. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: gotta believe, like New York State and Washington State are

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Speaker 1: probably the top two right for for apple selection in

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Speaker 1: the store. Listen. I I didn't know coming to Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: having lived here only recently. Heck, you don't even have

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Speaker 1: a lot of trees and cans, right forget about get

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Speaker 1: apple trees, trees in general, okay, And it's like I

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Speaker 1: go get out of flat ground and then you go

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Speaker 1: into the store and it's like then I was like

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Speaker 1: almost overwhelmed. I was like, well, wait a minute, what

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Speaker 1: apple do I want? What is this for? Like it

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00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 1: is one of these for apple pie, and one of

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00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 1: these is for well that there are some for every pie.

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00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: You know, the Granny Smith apples and you know the

754
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,279
Speaker 1: whole well we all know. And I was like, well

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00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: what do I do? And so I just did what

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00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: every red blood American man does. I asked my wife

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00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: eight the ones that she bought, what are we doing here?

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00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: So there you go. What are we gonna do? Well,

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00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: we could eat some sound. We're gonna go back to. Yeah,

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00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 1: we gotta get to Leslie Freese and Sea again. So

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00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:04,240
Speaker 1: Damar Hamlin, as we know, made his second consecutive start

762
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:10,719
Speaker 1: last week, started in Miami in week three because the

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00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: Bills did not have Micah Hyde or Jordan Poyer. Jordan

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Speaker 1: Poyer returns to the lineup in week four and DeMar

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Speaker 1: Hamlin gets the start second year player over Jaquan Johnson.

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Speaker 1: Fourth year player Leslie Frasier was asked, hey, is DeMar

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Speaker 1: Hamlin going to continue to be the starter opposite Jordan

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Speaker 1: Poyer at safety instead of Jaquan Johnson. Here was Leslie

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Speaker 1: Frasier's response, Yeah, you gotta let it play out. I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's still so early for both guys, and Jaquan could

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00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: easily be back in there, you know, at any point.

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Speaker 1: So we'll continue evaluate it and just see how DeMar does.

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Speaker 1: But Jaquan is going to have his opportunities as well,

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Speaker 1: and we'll just see how it plays out. So, as

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00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 1: we know, even though the safety positions in this defense

776
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 1: are interchangeable. Jordan Poyer is the guy that's generally more

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00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: up near the line of scrimmage. That is also the

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Speaker 1: strong suit of Jaquan Johnson's game. He's better up close

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00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: near the line of scrimmage, doesn't have as much range

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00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:14,320
Speaker 1: in coverage. Tomorrow. Hamlin's got range in coverage, and Leslie

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00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: Frasier attested to that yesterday he was asked about the

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Speaker 1: difference between Hamlin and Johnson. He said, hamlin strength is coverage,

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Speaker 1: so you need somebody to cover the deep half. Hamlin's

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00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 1: the guy to do that, and I think he's technically

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00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:31,759
Speaker 1: in micah hide spot, and Mica would generally be back

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00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: there covering deep half deep there. Whatever. It's two guys

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Speaker 1: with the same skill set and different strengths and weaknesses,

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Speaker 1: and one of them plays better with Poyer on the field.

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Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying, Power and Johnson are

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00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: more alike, right, Hamlin and Hide are more alike. So

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00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 1: so if you're missing high lementary pieces, right, so missing

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00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:53,839
Speaker 1: hide you use it now. Certainly they can both play

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00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 1: both spots, because, like you say, they're interchangeable. But when

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00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about skill sets. You want a more complete

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00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 1: gill set on the field, inside your defensive backfield. And

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00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: it just comes down to the fact that you want

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00:47:05,800 --> 00:47:07,919
Speaker 1: to have your guys doing what they do best. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want You'd rather have Damar Hamlin out

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Speaker 1: there playing what the skill set he's really good at

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Speaker 1: than having Jiquan Johnson out there playing left handed, correct

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00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:22,719
Speaker 1: right right. So just insimmation, Jiquan is probably are more

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00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 1: suited to be closer to the line of scrimmage as

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Speaker 1: the safety Allah Jordan Poyer, while Hamlin is more suited

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Speaker 1: to deep coverage Alah Mikah Hide. So without Hide, they're

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Speaker 1: going with Hamlin. Could it change? Sure? I think they

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00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: love both those guys in the way and they would

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00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: not hesitate to throw either one of them in the game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think Hamlin starting is an indictment in any

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Speaker 1: way on Jiquan Johnson's skills. No, it's more about what

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Speaker 1: fits best for the hole in the lineup they have,

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Speaker 1: and right now that's ham And I think it's a

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Speaker 1: testament to when they say, we know this guy nobody

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Speaker 1: can do. That's why they make these decisions. They know

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Speaker 1: what they're ga with these guys, break time for us here.

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Speaker 1: When we come back for our number two, We're going

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Speaker 1: to be joined by Football Morning an America writer for

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Speaker 1: NBC Sports Peter King, who had some things to say

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Speaker 1: in his weekly column about Jordan Player's performance. He joins

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Speaker 1: us next here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. Thanks is One Bills Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Called Light to Health. Our number two here on

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Speaker 1: a Tuesday, Chris Brown, Steve tasker with you and pleased

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Speaker 1: to be joined now by NBC Sports NFL insider Peter King,

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Speaker 1: who joins us here now, as you know, weekly author

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Speaker 1: of Football Morning in America and a Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame selector as well. Peter, Good to have you

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Speaker 1: on again. How you doing a month into the season here. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it's been fun so far, Chris Steve. It's every year

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00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:35,160
Speaker 1: takes out a life of its own, obviously, But you know,

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Speaker 1: I never thought that we would be sort of living

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Speaker 1: in a world with you know, things like the Raiders

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Speaker 1: being one in three and the Giants being three and one.

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Speaker 1: I never thought we would have the two New York

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Speaker 1: area teams with a better overall record than the two

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Speaker 1: LA teams. So yeah, it's a weird been a weird

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Speaker 1: start to the year, But then again it always is.

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Speaker 1: How surprised were you because there's only one undefeated team

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00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,000
Speaker 1: left and it's Philly. How surprised are you that that's

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Speaker 1: the case? I mean, it's just a weird year for that, Steve,

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00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,399
Speaker 1: because I had it on my column the other day.

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Speaker 1: Two years ago, entering October, there were seven undefeated teams.

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Speaker 1: Now there's only one, and it's just a little bit

843
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 1: of a flukey thing. And the way the NFL really

844
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: is concentrated on doing it more and more and more

845
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:38,840
Speaker 1: in recent years is they like the lesser lights to

846
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,719
Speaker 1: play each other early so that you know, so that,

847
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 1: for instance, the Giants are three and one. Does anybody

848
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Speaker 1: think the Giants are going to win three out of

849
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:54,200
Speaker 1: four games every month this season? I don't, you know.

850
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Speaker 1: And you know, does anybody think that, you know, the

851
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 1: ram and the forty nine ers are two and two

852
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,120
Speaker 1: caliber teams? I mean, who knows, maybe the Rams are,

853
00:51:06,239 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: But I think that one of the things the NFL

854
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,560
Speaker 1: has done is they've You've seen a lot of great

855
00:51:12,719 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: matchups so far, you know, and you just look to

856
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: this last weekend. You know, you got Kansas City and

857
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: Tampa in a Super Bowl rematch. You got the Bills

858
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,919
Speaker 1: and the Ravens. You know, two premier teams playing. So

859
00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:30,680
Speaker 1: they try to make it so that as many teams

860
00:51:31,120 --> 00:51:36,320
Speaker 1: as possible are really competitive throughout the year. And so therefore,

861
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 1: you know, a team like the Giants, a team like

862
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Speaker 1: the Jets, you know, they they want them involved as

863
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Speaker 1: long as they can. Let's talk about one of the

864
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Speaker 1: storylines in your most recent column. It dealt with the

865
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Speaker 1: Bills and Jordan Poyer's two interception performance against the Ravens,

866
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Speaker 1: which was critical in the comeback effort from seventeen points down.

867
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Speaker 1: It's no secret that Poyer in the offseason lobbied for

868
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: more money in his contract, if not an extension, as

869
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 1: he's entering the last year of his deal. His play

870
00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:21,320
Speaker 1: on the field is certainly strengthening his case. But maybe

871
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: just comment number one on the performance and where you

872
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: think it might go. Knowing the Bills are tight against

873
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: the cap, here's how I sort of look at this.

874
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 1: I don't think the Bills have lost a player they

875
00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:43,959
Speaker 1: truly wanted to keep. You know, they've lost some good

876
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:49,600
Speaker 1: players since Brandon Bean has been the general manager and

877
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:54,279
Speaker 1: every team does, but I don't think they've lost a

878
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: player that they would consider. I don't know. Maybe it's

879
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 1: an overstatement to say Jordan Poyer is a cornerstone player,

880
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: but that's how I think of him with the Buffalo Bills,

881
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 1: and honestly, I just don't think they're going to lose him.

882
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: The other thing that I think about this situation is

883
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:20,160
Speaker 1: that when you look at how the Bills kind of

884
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:26,279
Speaker 1: have built their team, you know, they they get and

885
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 1: they keep guys who they feel are really important parts

886
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 1: of the fabric of this team. And my feeling is

887
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,359
Speaker 1: that Poyer is one of those guys. He's got an

888
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:44,959
Speaker 1: agent in Drew Rosenhouse, who very much is a deal

889
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 1: maker and not a bomb thrower. So I think something

890
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: will get done at some point. I have no inside

891
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 1: information whatsoever on it, but I think it has to be.

892
00:53:59,640 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: That has to be. I think he's going to get done.

893
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: One of the other things about this as this season

894
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Speaker 1: progresses that happened in the offseason was Brian day Ball,

895
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,920
Speaker 1: the offensive coordinator, going from the Bills over the New

896
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: York and you you're there, you know, you spend a

897
00:54:14,719 --> 00:54:19,759
Speaker 1: lot of time in New York City and surprising and

898
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Speaker 1: Bills fans have kind of a passing interest now in

899
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 1: the Giants because of Brian day Ball and the good

900
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 1: stuff he did here, and I don't it's hard to

901
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:32,960
Speaker 1: imagine him getting off to a more favorable start for

902
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 1: what has been a really tough situation the past handful

903
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 1: of years. Look, the Giants were in a terrible situation

904
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: when Joe Shane got the GM job. I did not

905
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: know Joe Shane from Adam when he took this job,

906
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: but in the time I've spent with him, I'll tell

907
00:54:57,160 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: you a quick little Joe Shane's story that I think

908
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:03,920
Speaker 1: says a about him. When I was putting together my

909
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: mock draft before the draft, I had a long conversation

910
00:55:07,239 --> 00:55:11,360
Speaker 1: with him on Saturday. My column comes out on Monday.

911
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:15,279
Speaker 1: The first round of the draft is Thursday, so you know,

912
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Speaker 1: I called him and I was trying to squeeze out

913
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Speaker 1: some information and he's not given up anything. Nobody does, really,

914
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 1: But I'm talking to him a little bit about cave

915
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Speaker 1: On Thibadeau. And one of the reasons I kind of

916
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Speaker 1: appreciate Joe Shane and sort of how honorable he is

917
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Speaker 1: is that I forget. At some point I told him

918
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Speaker 1: who I was probably going to give the Giants in

919
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 1: the draft. And I but I said to him, you know,

920
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Speaker 1: I'm really curious about you and Caveon Thibadeau for some reason,

921
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: it just makes sense, blah blah blah. And he said, well,

922
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,280
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know. We don't know, We truly

923
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: don't know. But I spent about a half hour with

924
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:09,640
Speaker 1: him on the phone this weekend, and because I really

925
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:12,280
Speaker 1: wanted to get to the bottom of a few things.

926
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Speaker 1: I wanted to really invest my time and find out

927
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: about some things for myself and not just believe what

928
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,360
Speaker 1: I might have heard or what somebody else might have

929
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 1: told me. And he goes, it was really valuable. And

930
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 1: if I had half a brain in my head, I

931
00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 1: would have said, okay, put cave On Thibeau down for

932
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:38,839
Speaker 1: the Giants, either with the fifth pick or the seventh pick.

933
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,359
Speaker 1: But I don't have half a brain in my head.

934
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 1: I only have a quarter of one. So that wasn't

935
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:49,240
Speaker 1: smart enough to know that that Joe Shane was really

936
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 1: trying to send me signals and trying to help me

937
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:59,279
Speaker 1: in my draft. But I appreciate the fact that this

938
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 1: guy he's a worker bee. He's going to go down

939
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,400
Speaker 1: every rabbit hole to try to find out the information.

940
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Speaker 1: There's one other thing about the Giants and about those

941
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: two guys who I think we're trained very well, you

942
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,640
Speaker 1: know in the Bills system under Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott.

943
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean very well. And that is that. Listen, you've

944
00:57:22,040 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: got to be realistic about what you have, Okay, And

945
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: the Giants at the start of the season, they didn't

946
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: want to cut James Bradberry. He's a top fifteen NFL corner.

947
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: They didn't want to do that. But Joe Shane knew

948
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: that he had to do it because he's got to

949
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:40,640
Speaker 1: have a little bit of cat flexibility. He cuts him,

950
00:57:41,000 --> 00:57:44,480
Speaker 1: he goes to the Eagles. He made a huge play

951
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,560
Speaker 1: in a win for the Eagles the other day, an

952
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,680
Speaker 1: interception of Trevor Lawrence at the goal line. And so

953
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 1: basically because Dave Gettlman did a crappy job with the

954
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 1: salary cap with the Giants and it falls on Joe

955
00:57:58,480 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: Shane and Brian Dayball to try to fix it. They

956
00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:04,360
Speaker 1: lose a really good player. But anyway, my point is,

957
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,320
Speaker 1: you don't hear Joe Shane and Brian Dable crying about that,

958
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:13,320
Speaker 1: about being saddled with a crummy, incredibly overpaid wide receiver

959
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: in Kenny Golladay. They just cope with it. And I

960
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:22,280
Speaker 1: think the players on this team really kind of appreciate

961
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: Dable because he's just a guy, you know, He's a

962
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 1: mensch from you know, who's got a lot of roots

963
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,600
Speaker 1: in Western New York. And I just I think that

964
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 1: they have done all the right things so far. They're

965
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 1: not making the playoffs, they're not turning it around in

966
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: one year, but this is the first time if you

967
00:58:41,160 --> 00:58:43,960
Speaker 1: follow the Giants, you think that maybe they got a

968
00:58:44,040 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: chance with these two guys. Let's look at the Bills

969
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: Division and with what's happened with the Dolphins organization this

970
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: past week. It hasn't put them in a favorable light.

971
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: And this isn't the first time in racing history they

972
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 1: have a been in a favorable light. They've had a

973
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 1: rough couple of years here making headlines for all the

974
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:06,160
Speaker 1: wrong reasons. This is a pretty bad one, though, in

975
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: light of all the efforts that the league has made

976
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: four players safety and greater player safety. I should say

977
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:19,200
Speaker 1: what happened last week some people believe set the concussion

978
00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: protocol back a decade. Where do you come down on

979
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: the severity of this. It's clearly a step back, Peter,

980
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:32,520
Speaker 1: how would you quantify it? Well, Chris, I think the

981
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 1: worst part of this is, you know, I went on

982
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,960
Speaker 1: Twitter the other day as I was getting ready to

983
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: write my column, and I asked people, especially parents of

984
00:59:44,600 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: youth football players, to tell me what this meant. And

985
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,080
Speaker 1: I had a guy who wrote to me from Massachusetts

986
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 1: who said, you know, I got a son's nine years old.

987
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: I really want him to play. And we're watching the

988
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:02,680
Speaker 1: game and we you know, we saw what happened to

989
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: Tongavaloa on Sunday against Buffalo, and then nothing happened. He

990
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:13,360
Speaker 1: came back in the game, and on Thursday he takes

991
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: another big hit and now he's out. He gets sent

992
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,320
Speaker 1: off on a stretcher. And we're in the middle of

993
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: that game watching it. My wife turns to me and says,

994
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: and that is why Charlie will never play football. You

995
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 1: can't dismiss or not think a lot about what this

996
01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 1: incident has done to people who are parents who are

997
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: on the fence about football anyway. And look, there are

998
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 1: going to be people in the state of Florida because

999
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: it's a football mad, youth football state who are not

1000
01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: going to be dissuaded from having their kids play football.

1001
01:00:59,440 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 1: It's going to be people in Texas and in California

1002
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:07,320
Speaker 1: and a lot of football hotbed states, Georgia, Louisiana. But

1003
01:01:08,040 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: there might be some people in in Orchard Park and

1004
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 1: Hamburg and all the all the little hamlets in western

1005
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:23,840
Speaker 1: New York where they have had a good football tradition,

1006
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 1: and all the little hamlets around the country who've had

1007
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: good football tradition. But you're hearing more and more stories

1008
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:34,800
Speaker 1: now about people who you know, schools and youth groups

1009
01:01:34,840 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: who are dropping football participation numbers are down. If you

1010
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:42,240
Speaker 1: don't think the NFL's not worried about that, I can

1011
01:01:42,280 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: tell you they are worried about that. And that is

1012
01:01:46,840 --> 01:01:50,440
Speaker 1: and look, it's it's far more worrying for the players

1013
01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 1: than it is for people in the future. And I

1014
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,080
Speaker 1: understand that, but I'm saying another factor that we should

1015
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,240
Speaker 1: consider is that the NFL is concerned about the fewer

1016
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 1: as well. And one of the you know, obvious questions

1017
01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: is what happens going forward? How do you and certainly

1018
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 1: if there are changes made and they seem to work.

1019
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: This will be in the rear view mirror. But how

1020
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 1: soon do you think, you know, tangible changes will happen

1021
01:02:18,480 --> 01:02:20,560
Speaker 1: in the NFL. And you know this is too. As

1022
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: soon as they change those protocols, they're going to trumpet

1023
01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: it like you know, like the results of a presidential election. Look, Steve,

1024
01:02:29,480 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 1: I think it's going to happen this week. I don't

1025
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 1: think they're going to start playing Thursday night without something

1026
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: happening to the concussion protocol. My guess is that what

1027
01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 1: Mike Floria reported on Football Night Sunday is exactly what's

1028
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 1: going to happen. And what he said was the gross

1029
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:53,920
Speaker 1: motor instability term. For people who don't know, there's a

1030
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,760
Speaker 1: clause in the concussion protocol that says if a player

1031
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:04,439
Speaker 1: demonstrates gross motor instability on the field during the game,

1032
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,040
Speaker 1: and that player has got to be taken off and

1033
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,600
Speaker 1: put through concussion protocol and the tests you know that

1034
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: are going to be given to a player to see

1035
01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 1: if he can continue to play. Now, it turns out

1036
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: that to Watanga Valoa passed those tests at halftime of

1037
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,919
Speaker 1: that game and went back to play. To us said

1038
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: it's my back, it's not my head. I mean, I

1039
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: don't know. I've covered the NFL for thiss my thirty

1040
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 1: ninth year, and I've heard a lot of excuses from

1041
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: players who don't want to go out of the game

1042
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: and who won't admit that they're head hurts. And I'm

1043
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 1: not saying that that's the case with TWOA, but this

1044
01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:47,680
Speaker 1: reminds me of a lot of guys who say, oh,

1045
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: it's not my head, it's my neck, it's my back,

1046
01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:55,560
Speaker 1: it's my shoulder. In my opinion, what Florio reported is

1047
01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,919
Speaker 1: what absolutely should happen. If you demonstrate gross your instability,

1048
01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: have to be helped off the field, you're woozy, you're

1049
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:09,280
Speaker 1: punch drunk. Your day should be over, period. And I

1050
01:04:09,320 --> 01:04:11,480
Speaker 1: hope the NFL and the nfl PA come to that

1051
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:14,840
Speaker 1: conclude howe how much do you, yeah, how much do

1052
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,560
Speaker 1: you throw? In there as well that the Dolphins and

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Speaker 1: they knew this going in and they kind of probably

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Speaker 1: have conversations about it, like every team does. The fact

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Speaker 1: that you know it takes five days, five full days

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Speaker 1: to get through the concussion protocols, even if you know

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Speaker 1: if you're in the protocol, it takes five days because

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Speaker 1: you gotta go step by step by step, and there

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Speaker 1: are twenty four hour waiting periods between each step. You know,

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Speaker 1: you have to go light aerobic work, then football specific

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Speaker 1: stuff that's light, and then a little more intense and

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Speaker 1: then a full practice. And between each of those steps

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Speaker 1: is twenty four hours where you come back in the

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Speaker 1: next day and test baseline and also if you don't

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Speaker 1: have headaches or any further symptoms. How much of the

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Speaker 1: fact And this has been a big topic around that

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01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were staring at the Thursday night game knowing

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Speaker 1: that if anybody goes into concussion protocols on a Sunday,

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Speaker 1: they can't make it back at all, and under any

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Speaker 1: circumstances for the Thursday night game, what how what kind

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Speaker 1: of ring you know, degree of difficulty does that throw

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Speaker 1: into it? And does that and that seems to light

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Speaker 1: a fire under teams are like, hey, don't put him

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Speaker 1: in the protocols. Well, you know that's something that if

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01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 1: if there was any motivation because of that to not

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01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: put him in the protocol people should lose their jobs.

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Speaker 1: But here's the issue. Steve on Sunday in the game

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Speaker 1: against Buffalo, apparently the unaffiliated Neurotrauma consultant and the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: team physician both said that he does not have a

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01:06:00,560 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 1: concussion and that he doesn't have evidence of a concussion.

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Speaker 1: He passed the test just fine, and he's good, and

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01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:09,520
Speaker 1: we're going to let him go back in the game.

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01:06:10,360 --> 01:06:14,200
Speaker 1: So I understand everybody is up in arms about this.

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01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:19,560
Speaker 1: But if a guy does not get put in the

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Speaker 1: concussion protocol after the game, if doctors and an unaffiliated team,

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01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, a neurologist who's unaffiliated with the team, both

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Speaker 1: agree that he does not have a concussion and his

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01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:39,520
Speaker 1: wooziness did not stem from head trauma. If that's what

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Speaker 1: they think, it's impossible to be critical of Mike McDaniel

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Speaker 1: for keeping him out of the game. The onus falls

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Speaker 1: on the medical people, right, And it's easy on Thursday

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01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: to say, what is Mike McDaniel doing playing him? Anybody

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01:06:56,320 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 1: would have played him, right, So that is the problem here.

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01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:09,320
Speaker 1: The problem is if somebody demonstrates the gross motor instability, absolutely, unequivocally,

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01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 1: he's done for the day, no matter whether he shows

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01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: concussion symptoms or not. You've got to take him off

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01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,960
Speaker 1: the field. So I think that's where it all has

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01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:25,760
Speaker 1: to start. Now. The Bills will be They're tied for

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01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,600
Speaker 1: number one in the league in total defense. Peter, heck

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01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: of a way for Kenny Pickett to make his first

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: NFL start on the road. Uh, And if and Steve

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Speaker 1: was actually looking at the Steelers schedule for the next month,

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01:07:39,880 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: it is it is a rough road for Kenny to

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01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,000
Speaker 1: Pickett to traverse here in the next four got the

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01:07:46,040 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: toughest schedule in football over the next five games. So

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Speaker 1: what do you make of it? And what do you

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01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: what do you foresee? I think he's gonna get swamped

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01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:59,600
Speaker 1: on Sunday. I think it's not going to be pretty.

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01:07:59,680 --> 01:08:03,720
Speaker 1: But I also think to myself, if I were Mike Tomlin,

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01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:06,919
Speaker 1: would I'd be playing Mitchell Trubisky again? No, I mean,

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01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:12,080
Speaker 1: I think everybody thought that Mitchell Trubisky spending one year

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01:08:12,200 --> 01:08:16,559
Speaker 1: with Brian day Ball and Ken Dorsey and sitting in

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01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:19,600
Speaker 1: the room with Josh Allen every day was going to be,

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01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: you know, like a trip to some incredible day spa

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01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:26,240
Speaker 1: where all of a sudden you earn her magic wand

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01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: and you're healthy and you're cured of all ills. And

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01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky is Mitchell Trubisky. You know, I don't mean

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01:08:34,840 --> 01:08:37,759
Speaker 1: to be cruel, but he had a lot of chances

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Speaker 1: to prove himself in Chicago. You can blame Matt Nagee,

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01:08:41,680 --> 01:08:45,040
Speaker 1: can blame this, blame that. Whatever the fact is, he

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01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:50,720
Speaker 1: very rarely played well with any consistency in Chicago. He's

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Speaker 1: shown the same thing in Pittsburgh. So I'd give Pickett

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Speaker 1: a shot right now too. I think the key for

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01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:01,920
Speaker 1: Kenny Pickett is for the Steelers to be able to

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Speaker 1: run the ball even slightly better, which is going to

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01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,519
Speaker 1: be hard, but they need to run the ball a

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,000
Speaker 1: little bit better so it's not always going to be

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Speaker 1: second and eight, second and nine. That to me is

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01:09:12,920 --> 01:09:16,599
Speaker 1: the key. But look, Kenny Pickett I think started forty

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01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,920
Speaker 1: seven games, if I'm not mistaken in you know, at

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01:09:20,960 --> 01:09:25,160
Speaker 1: the University of Pittsburgh. That's not North Dakota State. You know,

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01:09:25,240 --> 01:09:29,280
Speaker 1: he had some games there, So I'm not I don't

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,400
Speaker 1: think you should be. If you're a Steeler fan despondent

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01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,600
Speaker 1: about Kenny Pickett, I think he'll be okay. He just

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01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: needs a chance. Yeah, I would. I would agree with you,

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01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:44,160
Speaker 1: no question. Pittsburgh. Mike Tomlin, I think is a great

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01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: head coach to do this, and I don't and even

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01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,760
Speaker 1: if Kenny Pickett was ready to play an all An

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01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: opening day, I think it was probably the right move

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01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:53,439
Speaker 1: to let him sit for a month and watch Mitch

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01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: d Whiskey and learn what he can. And I'll say

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01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 1: this too, Pete, I was under the impression as well.

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01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:02,000
Speaker 1: I thought being with the Bills for a year would

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01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,479
Speaker 1: help Mitch Trubisky, particularly listening to Josh Allen and what

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01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: he thought and what he saw and how he played. Certainly,

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01:10:08,439 --> 01:10:11,439
Speaker 1: Mitch Trubisky doesn't have to be Josh Allen, but at

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01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: least he would learn what it looks like to be

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01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,320
Speaker 1: in that environment. And I'm and I was a little

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01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I was disappointing in the way

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01:10:18,880 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 1: Mitchell Trubisky has played thus far this year. I thought

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01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,720
Speaker 1: he would that year in Buffalo would help him at

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01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,120
Speaker 1: least somewhat, And maybe it did. I don't know, but

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01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:30,200
Speaker 1: you're right. The results are what they are, don't you, Steve,

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01:10:30,280 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 1: Don't you have to think that, you know, Trubisky has

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01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:44,759
Speaker 1: been so mentally battered by everybody just continually pointing out that,

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01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, can you believe this guy was drafted ahead

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01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:51,800
Speaker 1: of you know, Deshaun Watson and Patrick Mahomes. You know

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01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:56,520
Speaker 1: how crazy is that. I think it's hard to mentally

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01:10:56,720 --> 01:11:00,400
Speaker 1: just put that to the side, you know, looking at

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:05,160
Speaker 1: the incredible success, particularly Patrick Mahomes has a very good

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01:11:05,240 --> 01:11:08,479
Speaker 1: chance to be a top ten quarterback in history. And

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01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:13,960
Speaker 1: you know, somehow, some way, all these teams, including the Bears,

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01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:18,080
Speaker 1: needing a quarterback in the long term future, passed on

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01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:22,679
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, you know, to take Mitchell Trubisky. So it's

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:26,280
Speaker 1: a pretty hard pill for him to swallow. I feel

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01:11:26,320 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 1: bad for him, but you know, I think the one

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01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 1: other thing to say about this game this week is

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01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: that it's easy to look at this game and say,

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01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:42,040
Speaker 1: if you're the Bills, boy, after facing two intense games

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01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,800
Speaker 1: in a row, it looks like we might have a

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01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:50,320
Speaker 1: little bit of a breather. Mike Tomlin at my history

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01:11:50,360 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 1: with Mike Tomlin is that it's almost like with Belichick,

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01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:59,240
Speaker 1: just when you think it's over and they can just

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01:11:59,479 --> 01:12:02,040
Speaker 1: mail it in the rest of the year, you watch

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01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,799
Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin's gonna come to Buffalo or maybe play Tampa

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01:12:07,920 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: sometime in the next couple of weeks. In one of

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Speaker 1: those games, Pittsburgh is going to be ahead with eight

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01:12:13,960 --> 01:12:17,280
Speaker 1: minutes to go somehow, some way. I don't know why.

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how, and I don't think it'll be

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01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 1: this week. But at some point, you know, Tomlin's going

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01:12:23,640 --> 01:12:26,160
Speaker 1: to have this team ready to go and playing well.

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01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,360
Speaker 1: I think this will probably be a closer game than

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01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:33,360
Speaker 1: anybody thinks. When Tomlin is backed up against the wall,

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01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:36,320
Speaker 1: he usually figures out a way to make it competitive.

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01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 1: The last one for me, Pete, and this is kind

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01:12:38,960 --> 01:12:40,920
Speaker 1: of off topic. It's about what you were saying earlier

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01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:43,960
Speaker 1: in that answer. You're right, Mitt Rubisky is up against

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01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:47,719
Speaker 1: it after being picked so high in the draft. My question,

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01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 1: and we'll never know the answer. I'd love your opinion.

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Speaker 1: Would Pat Mahomes be the player he is today if

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01:12:54,680 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: Chicago takes him third overall? Yes, yes, yes, a thousand times. Yes.

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Speaker 1: They may not be. He may not be as good

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01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: or as impactful because Andy Reid is going to go

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01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: down as one of the best coaches of in modern football.

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01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:17,160
Speaker 1: And who knows what would happened to Mattnege. But just

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01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:23,040
Speaker 1: remember Matt Neegee was Patrick Mahomes first, you know, day

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01:13:23,080 --> 01:13:27,759
Speaker 1: to day coordinator, shoulder to cry on guy, to help

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01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:32,559
Speaker 1: teacher everything in Kansas City when he was drafted, So

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Speaker 1: that was a good relationship. And Mattnegie is really smart,

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Speaker 1: I think so. And again, look, they haven't had a

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Speaker 1: quarterback other than a pretty good one in Jim McMahon,

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01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,200
Speaker 1: But I mean, they really haven't had a great quarterbacks

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01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:53,040
Speaker 1: in Sid Luckman. And honestly, you know, the odds are

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01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:56,720
Speaker 1: against you in Chicago because of the weather, because of

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01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 1: the history, all that stuff. I think Mahomes would have

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01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: laughed at that had he gone to Chicago, or quite

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01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:09,160
Speaker 1: honestly it he gone to many places. Patrick Mahomes is simply,

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01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:16,759
Speaker 1: you know, an unstoppable force. I think in football it helps.

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01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: And he goes to Kansas City and played for Indy Reid,

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01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:23,960
Speaker 1: but I think he would have been good anywhere. Peter,

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Speaker 1: thanks very much for the time. We appreciate it. As always,

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Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you down the line. Thanks Pete, Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks a lot, guys, great seed and you buy Steve

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Speaker 1: all right. That's NBC Sports NFL insider Peter King joining

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Speaker 1: us here on One Bills Live. We will take a break,

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Speaker 1: the phones where we are asking you, with the recent

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Speaker 1: rash of injuries, where is your level of faith in

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Speaker 1: the depth of the Bill's roster. We go to Kevin

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Speaker 1: in Hamburg next. What do you got for us? Kevin? Kevin,

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Speaker 1: are you there, sir? Yeah, thanks for taking my call.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of nervous. I'll be glad when Treewake comes back.

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01:16:06,200 --> 01:16:10,640
Speaker 1: Helped me getting much more secure I'm glad he's not

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01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:13,040
Speaker 1: playing against Pittsburgh. I don't think he is. Is he

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01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:17,080
Speaker 1: We don't know yet. Coach was a very non committal

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01:16:17,439 --> 01:16:20,599
Speaker 1: in his answer on Monday. Yeah. The reason I bring

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01:16:20,680 --> 01:16:24,200
Speaker 1: that up is if he didn't, I hope. The most important,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, is the next two or three, the

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01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: Chiefs and then eventually Aaron Rodgers, the two time MVP

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01:16:31,120 --> 01:16:35,120
Speaker 1: the night before Halloween, and then well then the Jets,

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01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:37,080
Speaker 1: and then of course the Vikings and Kirk Cousins. But

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01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: those next two after Pittsburgh worry me more than even

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01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:43,559
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh does, even though Kenny pickets the ball of fire.

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01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:48,160
Speaker 1: All right, oh yeah, I get it. Well, here's the thing,

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Speaker 1: and I would say this to everybody, particularly in the environment,

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Speaker 1: not just the environment that the NFL is after the

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01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:57,280
Speaker 1: two a Tongue of Ioloy incident, but also just the

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01:16:57,320 --> 01:16:59,799
Speaker 1: way the Bills have run their organization with Sean McDermott

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01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:04,080
Speaker 1: and Brandon Bean. Trey White's not gonna play until he's

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01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:09,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent ready. They're not gonna use current circumstances

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01:17:10,600 --> 01:17:13,559
Speaker 1: as a leverage tool to get him on the field faster.

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01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:15,280
Speaker 1: That's just not the way they work. So the number

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01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: one past defense in football without him right now? Right, yeah,

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01:17:19,200 --> 01:17:21,040
Speaker 1: I mean you're not, like I said, it's like it's

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01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:23,920
Speaker 1: like Dak Prescott in Dallas with Cooper Rush winning games.

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01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,080
Speaker 1: They're not hurrying Dak Prescott back from his thumb injury

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01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: before its time because they're and they're not doing it

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01:17:31,640 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: just because they're winning games. They're not doing it because

1263
01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:36,400
Speaker 1: it's Dak Prescott and it's a four to six week

1264
01:17:36,400 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 1: injury and it's only been three So just relax. Yeah,

1265
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 1: same thing with Tradevious White. It's a little bit of

1266
01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:48,280
Speaker 1: his you know, they don't need him right now. As

1267
01:17:48,280 --> 01:17:51,639
Speaker 1: crazy as that sounds, there's no reason to hurry him.

1268
01:17:52,479 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: And they don't do that anyway here in Buffalo. Oh

1269
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,519
Speaker 1: at least that's not my has men are experienced this far.

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01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,800
Speaker 1: Let's check out the tweet sheet, which is brought to

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01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:07,120
Speaker 1: you by Corrigan Moving Systems, the official equipment moving company

1272
01:18:07,479 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 1: of the Buffalo Bills, and Steve leads us off and says,

1273
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 1: I'm very confident in the depth of this team, especially

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01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:16,320
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. The defense seems

1275
01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:18,160
Speaker 1: to be a plug in play system this year, probably

1276
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:21,080
Speaker 1: due to our improved pass rush. I am more nervous

1277
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 1: relying on the depth on the offensive side, but we

1278
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: should be okay with number seventeen. JT says, my faith

1279
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,200
Speaker 1: is still very high. I've said this all along. Our

1280
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:36,040
Speaker 1: backups can be starters on other teams. These guys are

1281
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: coached very well and have bought into McDermott and Bean's process. Also,

1282
01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: we have a savage at quarterback that will do whatever

1283
01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,679
Speaker 1: it takes to get a win. Go Bills forty five

1284
01:18:44,840 --> 01:18:49,720
Speaker 1: seventeen over Pittsburgh. I know Josh covers up a lot

1285
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:56,280
Speaker 1: of things, but he does need people to throw too. Yeah,

1286
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: if you're thinking the Bills are going to score forty

1287
01:18:58,240 --> 01:19:01,639
Speaker 1: five on Pittsburgh, I mean team has scored twenty nine.

1288
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:04,720
Speaker 1: Nobody else has scored twenty five. I mean, you know,

1289
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:08,519
Speaker 1: the Jet scored twenty four, New Patriots seventeen, Bengals twenty.

1290
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,599
Speaker 1: They're hard to score on even without t J. Watt

1291
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,559
Speaker 1: in the in the mix. So we'll see. But yeah,

1292
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's just just get the win. This

1293
01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 1: is not a team to be taken lightly. They're well coached,

1294
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna be highly motivated, they're gonna be fired up

1295
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:26,960
Speaker 1: with a young quarterback. They want to play well for

1296
01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:32,719
Speaker 1: so yeah, it's I get it. The bills buy a billion,

1297
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:37,720
Speaker 1: but you know, give it a minute. Let's go back

1298
01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 1: to the phones. We go to Tony in Buffalo next,

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01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 1: What do you got for us? Tony? Hell yeah, Tony

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01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 1: are right? What do you got for us? I just think,

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01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: you know, um, I believe a seventeen believe in our defense,

1302
01:19:50,600 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: but I think seventeen in our offense. Need another weapon.

1303
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:56,040
Speaker 1: So I don't know if we can do it via

1304
01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:58,280
Speaker 1: trade or something. We need another weapon out there for

1305
01:19:58,360 --> 01:20:01,000
Speaker 1: this thing to go the way it's well, you're not

1306
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:02,960
Speaker 1: gonna get another one. I mean, that's about it. I

1307
01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:05,120
Speaker 1: don't this Odell Beckham stuff that you're hearing him about.

1308
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,200
Speaker 1: There is no way. Well he's not healthy number one,

1309
01:20:07,240 --> 01:20:09,240
Speaker 1: and they're they're gonna go with the guys they've got

1310
01:20:09,240 --> 01:20:11,320
Speaker 1: on the roster now. Certainly Gabe Davis, I don't think

1311
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: Brownie and we don't know this, but he's been playing,

1312
01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:16,600
Speaker 1: but he has doesn't seem like himself to me. I

1313
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,800
Speaker 1: think his ankle's still bothering him. Now. He's gonna start

1314
01:20:18,800 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 1: getting on top of it eventually, if he doesn't have

1315
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:26,400
Speaker 1: another setback, he'll get well while he's playing, they'll handle

1316
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:28,880
Speaker 1: him in practice and all of that. Steph Diggs still

1317
01:20:29,000 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: is a monster. He's a great weapon. I think they'll

1318
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:34,640
Speaker 1: start to depend on Dawson Knox and I think probably

1319
01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:38,880
Speaker 1: eventually sooner or later, James Cook won't drop a pass

1320
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:40,880
Speaker 1: or fumble it and he'll get a chance to do

1321
01:20:40,920 --> 01:20:45,360
Speaker 1: what he does. But yeah, another weapon on offense. If

1322
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: you want to look for another weapon on offense, you

1323
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:48,720
Speaker 1: better start with the Bill's roster because that's where it's

1324
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,519
Speaker 1: gonna come from. And it's probably gonna have to come

1325
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:54,599
Speaker 1: from there. Yeah, there don't. They ain't gonna trade. They're

1326
01:20:54,640 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: not gonna get in a trade somebody like that, like

1327
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,880
Speaker 1: the sae Quon Barkley thing. Now, the Bills are not

1328
01:21:00,920 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: going to give up a fifth rounder for a running

1329
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,559
Speaker 1: back making seven million bucks. They don't have the money

1330
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: for it, and they're not going to do it to

1331
01:21:09,000 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: rent him. Um. I just I think that's I think

1332
01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:17,439
Speaker 1: that's a fantasy. The guy's a great player, no question

1333
01:21:17,479 --> 01:21:22,559
Speaker 1: about it, But for a fifth rounder, I mean, if

1334
01:21:22,600 --> 01:21:24,840
Speaker 1: you can fit him under the cap, okay, maybe, but

1335
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're gonna do that. I don't

1336
01:21:27,320 --> 01:21:30,720
Speaker 1: know how you're going to do that, So, yeah, I

1337
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 1: think that's getting another weapon on this offense. You bet

1338
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:35,799
Speaker 1: you better look at the roster they've gotten. Hope somebody

1339
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: emerges if you don't like the ones that are there. Yeah,

1340
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 1: Chef on the tweet sheet says our depth has positively

1341
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:47,360
Speaker 1: surprised me thus far, but I definitely don't want to

1342
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 1: test it anymore. I fear that at some point this season,

1343
01:21:51,560 --> 01:21:53,880
Speaker 1: having so many of our depth players on the field

1344
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: at one time could come back to haunt us. There

1345
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:00,439
Speaker 1: is the law of diminishing return, Steve. I mean, as

1346
01:22:00,479 --> 01:22:04,680
Speaker 1: well as this team is as good a job as

1347
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:08,679
Speaker 1: they do with player development, it is a matchup league

1348
01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, and if you get

1349
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:14,600
Speaker 1: too deep into your bench, inevitably there is going to

1350
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: be something that will go down and it won't be

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01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,800
Speaker 1: positive for you. Yeah. I mean, it's a hard league

1352
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,360
Speaker 1: to win in because everybody's got really good players at

1353
01:22:24,360 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: certain spots and they're gonna their players are gonna beat

1354
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:31,519
Speaker 1: your players once in a while. And it's not so much,

1355
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, at this point, particularly with guys like Kayer

1356
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 1: Elam and you know, Dane Jackson, and it's not the

1357
01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 1: physicality or the athleticism that worries me. It's the experience.

1358
01:22:44,240 --> 01:22:46,560
Speaker 1: You know, these teams are going to be pretty sophisticated

1359
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,080
Speaker 1: at times, and you're gonna have to be on your

1360
01:22:48,120 --> 01:22:51,200
Speaker 1: toes and expect it. And these guys haven't seen enough

1361
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:55,360
Speaker 1: to expect certain things in situations they haven't experienced. So

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01:22:56,479 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you. It's you know, the depth has

1363
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:04,920
Speaker 1: proven to be amazing so far, surprisingly good, but enough's enough.

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01:23:05,160 --> 01:23:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean, you're going to reach the end of that

1365
01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,080
Speaker 1: rope and it will start to show at certain At

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01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:13,960
Speaker 1: some point, Jack says, We'll be okay. They'll adapt with

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01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,640
Speaker 1: an next man up mentality and overcome with enough resilience

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01:23:16,640 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: to do their one eleventh. Don't get me wrong. I

1369
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:21,000
Speaker 1: want our best guys on the field. I mis Hide

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01:23:21,439 --> 01:23:25,040
Speaker 1: and Trey hope he's back soon. The injuries are nerve wracking,

1371
01:23:25,400 --> 01:23:31,080
Speaker 1: but we'll be fine. Jeremy says. Now, I don't sleep

1372
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,240
Speaker 1: on any teams in the NFL anymore PTSD from the

1373
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:37,120
Speaker 1: Jags last year, but this would be the better of

1374
01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:39,840
Speaker 1: games to test our depth a little more. I think

1375
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:43,120
Speaker 1: Shakier and Hodgens should get some field time. With the

1376
01:23:43,160 --> 01:23:46,759
Speaker 1: recent injuries and a not one hundred percent healthy, Gabe.

1377
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:51,240
Speaker 1: Week six is an important game, so Jeremy's already looking

1378
01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: ahead to Kansas City. In case you forgot, this is

1379
01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,760
Speaker 1: an AFC game this week too. Conference record is an

1380
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:01,439
Speaker 1: important tiebreaker, so get this one first. You gotta win

1381
01:24:01,520 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: this game. You gotta win this game. Four and one

1382
01:24:07,479 --> 01:24:10,160
Speaker 1: is big. They've been four and one four out of

1383
01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:13,439
Speaker 1: the last five years. If they can do it this year,

1384
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: every game is important. The Chiefs, I get it. The

1385
01:24:18,560 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 1: Chiefs game is a marquee game. It's a four twenty

1386
01:24:20,840 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: five game. You know, Jim Nance and Tony Romo are

1387
01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 1: gonna do the game. It's gonna be big. Listen, it's

1388
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:29,280
Speaker 1: no more important than this Pittsburgh game. At the end,

1389
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 1: the Chiefs will probably be there, maybe be there probably. Okay,

1390
01:24:34,120 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: we don't know that. You gotta win this game. Pittsburgh

1391
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,559
Speaker 1: is important, and today it's more important than the Chiefs

1392
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 1: game because you still have to play it, and you

1393
01:24:41,040 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 1: gotta play it first, and you gotta win. So I'm

1394
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,439
Speaker 1: not buying into this. The Chiefs game is more important.

1395
01:24:49,439 --> 01:24:51,639
Speaker 1: So rest these guys or you know we can beat

1396
01:24:51,640 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers easy. So Isaiah Hodgens and Khalil shakier should

1397
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:59,720
Speaker 1: get No, do you play your best guys. You gotta

1398
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:03,040
Speaker 1: give you yourself the best chance to win. Whoever's available goes,

1399
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:06,720
Speaker 1: and as the best guy goes, that's it. There's none

1400
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:08,960
Speaker 1: of that. Hey, we can take these guys. Let's play

1401
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 1: our second stringers and rest up. No, you don't do that.

1402
01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: That's a recipe for disaster. Running Man says, We've heard

1403
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:18,360
Speaker 1: a lot in the off season about this being the

1404
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: most complete roster in the NFL. It's hard to not

1405
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:23,720
Speaker 1: be a believer after the last two weeks watching the

1406
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:28,920
Speaker 1: secondary try to deal with two otherwise very successful offenses.

1407
01:25:28,920 --> 01:25:31,880
Speaker 1: What do you think the Bills have shown the last

1408
01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:36,200
Speaker 1: two weeks, as shorthanded as they are. I think they're

1409
01:25:36,240 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: a different defense than they've been in the past. They've

1410
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,439
Speaker 1: been very good in the past, very good. I think

1411
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: their front has proven to be better than it has

1412
01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:50,960
Speaker 1: been even when their defense was a top three at

1413
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: number one and a number top three again, this team

1414
01:25:58,400 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 1: defensively has been better because the guy's up front or better.

1415
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 1: The pass rush is better, the run defense is better.

1416
01:26:04,280 --> 01:26:06,840
Speaker 1: Just the whole thing is made better by the guy's

1417
01:26:06,920 --> 01:26:09,799
Speaker 1: up front, and the back end has needed some slack

1418
01:26:09,840 --> 01:26:12,639
Speaker 1: with some inexperience and some young players playing and some injuries,

1419
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:15,960
Speaker 1: and they've gotten it from the front end. Think about

1420
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,439
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's end zone interception. You got Shack Lawson and

1421
01:26:20,439 --> 01:26:26,000
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau bearing down on him. He's running backwards off

1422
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:31,240
Speaker 1: his back foot and heaves it. You got him doing

1423
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: this crazy one eighty spinner rama out out of the

1424
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,080
Speaker 1: grasp of von Miller and throwing it off his back foot,

1425
01:26:39,120 --> 01:26:43,120
Speaker 1: tipped but almost intercepted by Matt Milano, tipped by Andrews

1426
01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:48,480
Speaker 1: and then caught by another guy. All those things are unbelievable.

1427
01:26:48,520 --> 01:26:55,120
Speaker 1: It starts up front. So yeah, this team, the defense

1428
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 1: is better because of upfront, and the back end has

1429
01:26:59,800 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 1: benefitted from it. And they've needed it. They've needed it.

1430
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you can say what you want about how

1431
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: well Benford and how well Elam is playing, and how

1432
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:10,040
Speaker 1: well Dan Jackson has played, and it certainly tarn Johnson

1433
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: his planks continually playing at a high level. But Micah

1434
01:27:14,240 --> 01:27:16,880
Speaker 1: Hids gone for the year and Jordan Poyer has been

1435
01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:18,280
Speaker 1: in and out of the line is now back in

1436
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:21,840
Speaker 1: those they needed some help in the back end, and

1437
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,280
Speaker 1: the difference between this defense and the other defenses in

1438
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:28,599
Speaker 1: recent memory are the front has given them that margin

1439
01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:31,439
Speaker 1: of air in a big way. Break time for us

1440
01:27:31,479 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: here Steve and I to provide some final thoughts next

1441
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,559
Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live, presented by Collid of Health

1442
01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:56,920
Speaker 1: Fits Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right, welcome back to one

1443
01:27:56,960 --> 01:27:59,519
Speaker 1: Bills Live. Here on a Tuesday, Steve and I are

1444
01:27:59,520 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 1: just about for the day. We will obviously get a

1445
01:28:02,720 --> 01:28:07,120
Speaker 1: lot more information on the Bills health tomorrow when the

1446
01:28:07,200 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 1: Wednesday injury report comes out, when coach McDermot addresses the media,

1447
01:28:11,560 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 1: so we'll see just how serious the numbers situation is

1448
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:21,000
Speaker 1: at wide receiver. That is the position of focus here.

1449
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,639
Speaker 1: After watching Isaiah Mackenzie and Jamison Crowder relieve the game,

1450
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:27,679
Speaker 1: and we're all expecting Crowder to be placed on injured

1451
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:33,320
Speaker 1: reserve very soon. They usually the Bills will begin to

1452
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 1: act like the decisions already been made, but they won't

1453
01:28:36,920 --> 01:28:39,920
Speaker 1: make the decision on Crowder until the absolute last possible minute,

1454
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: and they'll do it late in the week. Probably maybe not,

1455
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:46,919
Speaker 1: but they've always done that, just waited till the deadline

1456
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,880
Speaker 1: and then made those decisions. So Crowder will be on

1457
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,040
Speaker 1: the IR when they've got a guy they when they've

1458
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,160
Speaker 1: decided what they want to do at the roster, like

1459
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:55,479
Speaker 1: who fills the spot? Who fills the spot? Yeah, and

1460
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:58,240
Speaker 1: they'll do it late in the week and they'll they'll

1461
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:00,479
Speaker 1: practice though, as if the decisions already made, although they

1462
01:29:00,520 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: may let practice make the decision for them. Yeah, you

1463
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: would like to think that the decision might even be

1464
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: made by the end of today, because you're installed in

1465
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,680
Speaker 1: the game plan tomorrow. Whoever that replacement is is going

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Speaker 1: to need to be up well the worst, right they're

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Speaker 1: the fifth receiver on the roster at worst with a

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Speaker 1: chance to be the fourth. Yeah, they may, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know. We'll see it's there's some intrigue there, no

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Speaker 1: question about it. We'll get into it tomorrow and we'll

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Speaker 1: get a chance to watch a little practice and we'll

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Speaker 1: have some something for you. Former Bills fullback Sam Gash

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Speaker 1: and former Bills linebacker Arthur Moats on the show tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll see at one