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Speaker 1: The Bengals Booth Podcast. The Right Down b Line. Addition,

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Speaker 1: get your podcasts. It's the greatest thing since a Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl in New Orleans. We're all sad that the Bengals

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Speaker 1: didn't make it back to the Super Bowl this year,

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Speaker 1: and I am a little extra sad because I consider

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Speaker 1: New Orleans to be the greatest city in the world

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Speaker 1: to host a big sporting event, and I speak from experience.

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Speaker 1: For starters, everything is within walking distance the Hotel's Bourbon Street,

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Speaker 1: the French Quarter, the Superdome, live music, tremendous restaurants, in

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Speaker 1: great sightseeing. Before our son was born, the Big Easy

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Speaker 1: was the number one place that my wife and I

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Speaker 1: love to go for short vacations, and it's ideal for

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Speaker 1: a big sporting event because nearly all of the fans

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Speaker 1: congregate in the French Quarter every day and night wearing

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Speaker 1: their team gear. You'll see everybody you know that made

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Speaker 1: the trip and will undoubtedly run into friends you haven't

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Speaker 1: seen in years. Additionally, you'll see the opposing teams fans

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Speaker 1: every day, and in New Orleans, where the perpetual vibe

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Speaker 1: stays friendly. My first taste of all of this was

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Speaker 1: in March of nineteen eighty seven when I covered the

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Speaker 1: Final Four for the Syracuse Radio Network and sat almost

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Speaker 1: directly behind Bobby Knight when Keith Smart's last second shot

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Speaker 1: And speaking of first tastes, that trip marked my introduction

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Speaker 1: to the Hurricane, the unofficial cocktail of New Orleans that

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Speaker 1: is as sweet as kool aid but packs a lethal punch. Fortunately,

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Speaker 1: I was given valuable advice by a local taxi driver

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Speaker 1: has served me well. I returned to New Orleans nine

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Speaker 1: months later for the Sugar Bowl between Syracuse and Auburn,

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Speaker 1: and years later did the play by play of another

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Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl when Cincinnati faced Florida. Attending a Sugar Bowl

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Speaker 1: gives you the chance to ring in the new year

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Speaker 1: in a city where last Call doesn't exist. I vividly

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Speaker 1: remember doing the countdown to midnight in five time zones

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Speaker 1: Happy New Year in New York, New Orleans, Denver, Los Angeles, Anchorage, Honolulu.

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Speaker 1: I was tucked away in bed by the time they

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Speaker 1: got to Auckland. This will be the eleventh Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven matchup between Green Bay and New England.

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Speaker 1: Packers quarterback Brett Farv was the big story all week

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Speaker 1: because he was from nearby Kill, Mississippi. Like nearly every

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Speaker 1: Daddy was a coach, showed him the way train fight win.

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Speaker 1: That's the form you lehy, not exactly Lennon and McCartney.

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Speaker 1: My best New Orleans experience came as a fan, as

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Speaker 1: my wife and I attended the two thousand and three

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Speaker 1: wasn't meant to be. I guess we'll all have to

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to my guest. The Bengals announced the

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Speaker 1: hiring of two defensive coaches on Monday. Linebackers coach Mike Hodges,

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Speaker 1: on Monday, Jelly, I was amused by your Twitter profile

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Speaker 1: because it says husband, father, and love. Teaching fundamentals. Is

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Speaker 1: that your strength as a defensive line coach, you know what.

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Speaker 2: That's how I was brought up, because it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: It starts with your hands, eyes, and feet, and if

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Speaker 2: to challenge these guys to push them outside of their

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm glad you mentioned some of your coaching

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Speaker 1: You got to look from the Saints in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: What did your best coaches do for you in helping

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Speaker 2: I was lucky and I was fortunate to have good teachers,

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Speaker 2: especially at the University of Iowa. And that's their program

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Speaker 2: then just never looked back. How long were you in

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Speaker 2: So accepted the offer and then literally the phone call

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Speaker 2: I took the the d line job at Nayak.

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Speaker 1: Were visiting with Jerry Montgomery. You played tackle. How much

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Speaker 1: difference is there between coaching tackles and coaching ends? If

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Speaker 2: Difference, fundamentally, there's a little more space for ends when

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Speaker 2: you're on edges, but you know, the there's a lot

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Speaker 2: inside compared to the outside. All right, So other than that,

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Speaker 2: it's it's all the same. And you know, I look

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Speaker 1: Also, your title in Cincinnati includes run game coordinator. I

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Speaker 1: think we've all heard that with offensive line coaches. I'm

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Speaker 2: At the end of the day, you know Al is

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Speaker 2: So my job is just to make his job a

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Speaker 2: in Green Bay. But ultimately, you know, Al's gonna call

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Speaker 2: then run that by Al. And so that's kind of

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Speaker 1: What do you know about Al And did you follow

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I love college football. I've got a

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Speaker 2: So we're watching college football every weekend. Every Saturday. We

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Speaker 2: There and you know, he's done a tremendous job wherever

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Speaker 2: I'm most excited about, is just being around another good

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Speaker 1: Jerry Montgomery, as our guest, you essentially became a free

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll keep you know the names in house,

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Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean there were other opportunities to go

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Speaker 2: is means, you know, it's important to us in our family.

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Speaker 2: It's close to the Midwest. My wife is you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, I'm excited about being around you know, Hall

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Speaker 1: Is Dyersville the site of the Field of Dreams field.

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Speaker 2: It is it is her farm is I would say

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Speaker 1: Jerry Montgomery is our guest. You're part of Matt Lafloor's

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Speaker 1: More with Jerry on, Miles Murphy, Sam Hubbard and much more.

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Speaker 1: Sam Hubbard's been a key Bengal now for seven years.

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Speaker 2: That's part of the reason in coming to Cincinnati is

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Speaker 2: if you feel like you have a legit chance at

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Speaker 2: you know, taking that step, and so absolutely, I mean

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Speaker 2: it would mean everything to be able to win a championship. Look,

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Speaker 2: there's there's only one team that ends a year happy,

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Speaker 2: So I'd like to be in those shoes for once.

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Speaker 1: That's what we were hoping for as well. I feel

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Speaker 1: like this is a question I have to ask anybody

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Speaker 1: that comes to Cincinnati, what do you think of Burrow?

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Speaker 3: Hey, he's a Hall of Fame quarterback.

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Speaker 2: So crazy story his dad almost offered me a job

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Speaker 2: when he was a decordinator.

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Speaker 4: At uh at at Ohio, So uh it goes way

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Speaker 4: back when I was a young coach at Northern Iowa

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Speaker 4: and uh, I get that phone call and uh, you know,

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Speaker 4: I was, I was this.

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Speaker 2: Close to getting the job, and for whatever reason, they

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Speaker 2: had to go in another direction. But we've always stayed

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Speaker 2: in close contact. So when I go, when he heard

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Speaker 2: I got the job, he reached out to me. The

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Speaker 2: old man did so. Uh yeah, but his son phenomenal

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Speaker 2: and uh facing him in Green Bay, he's elite. He

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Speaker 2: gets the ball out, he's athletic, he see, he sees coverages. Uh,

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Speaker 2: he can put, he can spin the ball just about

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Speaker 2: anywhere you want it and how you want it. So

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Speaker 2: it'll be neat to be be with a guy like

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Speaker 2: Aaron and then get a chance to uh be with him.

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Speaker 1: You and the Burroughs were meant to be together at

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Speaker 1: some point.

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Speaker 3: There.

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Speaker 1: It is silent question for Jerry Montgomery, and I appreciate

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Speaker 1: your time. I started with a question about your Twitter profile.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna end with one. It's kind of strange. In

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Speaker 1: the picture, you're on a beach with your family. You're

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Speaker 1: wearing a retro Cincinnati Royals jersey. Is there a story

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Speaker 1: behind the retro Cincinnati Royals Jersey.

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Speaker 3: You know what, No, there is it just coincidence.

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Speaker 2: I you know, I enjoy my time out on the beach,

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Speaker 2: so I've got all my my taktops are all throwback Jersey.

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Speaker 3: So when we're out there, I always get questions, Oh, here,

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Speaker 3: you're a fan. Here your fan here? All right. I

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Speaker 3: probably could have made that sound a little bit better.

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Speaker 1: But well, had you been wearing Oscar Robertson's number, I

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Speaker 1: would have really wondered about the connection. But it's a

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Speaker 1: Chris Webber throwback. I think that's not quite a full

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati tie there. In any case, said Jerry, We're excited

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Speaker 1: to have you in Cincinnati. I really appreciate your time

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Speaker 1: today and I look forward to meeting doing person soon.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely appreciate it. Enjoyed my time also.

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