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Speaker 1: Motherfucking mini so mini episode, motherfucking mini Episo. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: another phenomenal episode of My Mama Told Me, the podcast

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Speaker 1: where we dive deep, deep into the pockets of black

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Speaker 1: conspiracy theories and we finally worked to prove the ideas

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Speaker 1: that you, the listeners have. You have a theory about

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Speaker 1: Michael Clark Duncan, we will get to the bottom of it.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to the bottom of that big motherfucker and

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Speaker 1: what happened to him for real, for real. You know

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Speaker 1: who knows homar Rosa knows. I'll say that, I bet

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Speaker 1: she knows facts. She don't want to talk about it.

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Speaker 1: I'm David Porty. We are Closed Lakes Incourtment. This is

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Speaker 1: gonna be a fun one. We're doing what we always

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Speaker 1: do with the many episodes. We were taking the listeners

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Speaker 1: bullshit and we're making it into gold. I say, absolute goal.

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Speaker 1: You all send us your nonsense and we do our

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Speaker 1: best to help resolve it. In today's conspiracy theory, I

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Speaker 1: would say is is top notch nonsense. I would go

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Speaker 1: so far as to say top notch, top notch peak nonsense.

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Speaker 1: I'd say this message comes from a person named William

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Speaker 1: Williams sent us a message where he says, listening to

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Speaker 1: your pod with the Juras Goodwin uh, And it got

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Speaker 1: me thinking, I wonder if the prison complex, music industry,

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Speaker 1: and manufacturers of shirts and pants way bigger than necessary

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Speaker 1: unified to not only promote gangster wrap but also kill

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Speaker 1: off the more clean cut, socially acceptable boy bands, which

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Speaker 1: was a calculation to drive demand, increase policing, or if

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Speaker 1: it was just a side effect of the goal. Whatever

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Speaker 1: the case, I'm sure the answer is white devil. So

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Speaker 1: I I think what he's suggesting here, William, is that

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Speaker 1: there was an intentional killing off of sort of like

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Speaker 1: the more palatable black image for the sake of gangster

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Speaker 1: rap in order to help support the prison industrial complex. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I might be I that I could that that seems feasible.

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Speaker 1: You're bought in. I'm just saying, you, look at R

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Speaker 1: and B. What would they rather have us doing? Fucking

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Speaker 1: I'm starting families with you, girl, wanting to be the

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Speaker 1: one or killing each other or doing crimes that will

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Speaker 1: get us to R and B is only gonna get

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Speaker 1: you a family that maybe is a little bigger than

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Speaker 1: you have the money to support. Let's be honest, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but not like it's like it's not breaking The core

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Speaker 1: tenants of R and B aren't gonna break down the

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Speaker 1: culture as in the way that the core tenants of

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Speaker 1: hip hop is. I could see it again, I will

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Speaker 1: say even to that point, Old R and B. Now

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Speaker 1: New R and B sort of does some weird ship.

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Speaker 1: But old R and B was was really about the

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Speaker 1: nuclear family, you know, like they were real rooted in

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Speaker 1: a mommy and a daddy and and a baby, and

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Speaker 1: now New R and BS like, I don't know, don't

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Speaker 1: you have a mommy and a baby that you live

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Speaker 1: in a house with. Yeah, I feel like I'm getting

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Speaker 1: scammed every day. If I'm being honest with you, I

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Speaker 1: and sucking right now and I'm hanging out with y'all.

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Speaker 1: This is this is trash. That's what single people always think.

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Speaker 1: They could be sucking and sucking right now just three pm. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there's some three pm hos out there that I could

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Speaker 1: uh so, yeah, what do you think about it? I

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Speaker 1: I I'm for it. Listen, it doesn't sit wrong in

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Speaker 1: you know, he poses the question was this sort of

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Speaker 1: they go, hell, yeah, we're We're fine with that. We're

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Speaker 1: we're fine with that too, right, especially coming off the eighties,

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Speaker 1: does like it does kind of all flow to that way,

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Speaker 1: Oh that was in the last you're still so angry.

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Speaker 1: But for those that are listening, at one point we

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Speaker 1: that David could not have been angry or at no,

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Speaker 1: I think it was like gangster probably happened organically and

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Speaker 1: if you remember in the early nineties, late eighties, there's

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying, There was like self destruction. Ye had

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Speaker 1: that never made a negative song in her whole career.

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Speaker 1: She's not a bit. Yeah, but uh, and that movement

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Speaker 1: did not go anywhere. It wasn't, to your point, aided

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Speaker 1: largely because of sort of black people in reinvesting in

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Speaker 1: it certainly wasn't a thing where like, oh, we're all

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Speaker 1: You know what. It was also empowering, and it didn't

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Speaker 1: publicandemy doesn't do that, you know what I'm saying. Yeah. Additionally,

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Speaker 1: during that same period, we did see a similar influx

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Speaker 1: And part of that is them being like, now we're

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Speaker 1: and uh, everything that you've put into our lives. We

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Speaker 1: I think I think we nailed it. Bory. Could you

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Speaker 1: cool ship you have going on. I'm on Instagram at

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Speaker 1: cool Guy Jokes Sadie seven and you know, if you

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Speaker 1: did it, by bitch, motherfucking many years, so many years,

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Speaker 1: motherfucking many years, so, motherfucking many years, so many, motherfucking

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