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Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here we are inside the s

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Speaker 1: WBC Mortgage studio. And yes, it's time to stampede into

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Speaker 1: another edition of mix Shots. Bad guys, I think we're

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Speaker 1: I think you need to revisit this. I don't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wasn't we need to revisit this decision. Maybe after

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Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I wasn't expecting it today, still can't

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Speaker 1: Then he's stuck on he's stuck in a loop that

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Speaker 1: not making it either. But I'm sure big timers got

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Speaker 1: appearances to make this week. That's right. Man. You know

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Speaker 1: I can close the coatain here if you guys are

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Speaker 1: feeling kind of left out, you know, if that would

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Speaker 1: doing right now. He's there in a hotel room in LA.

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Speaker 1: He's waiting for that knock at the door. Oh man,

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Speaker 1: that's brutal, because that's cutting be pretty deep. Yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: filled up my notebook, okay today with the finalists, with

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Speaker 1: the accolades of the finalists for the Pro Football Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame, And we'll find out tonight who the newest

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Speaker 1: class members are. And I'm telling you, I got Everson

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Speaker 1: Walls on the list here, and Everson could easily be

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Speaker 1: let's be clear. Let's be clear. I could be on

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Speaker 1: course of the next hour. And then I went to

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Speaker 1: Everson's accolades, as Everson he not only shouldn't should be

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Speaker 1: in in this class, he should have been in fifteen

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Speaker 1: classes ago. That's it, brother, preach to him, build very much. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's gonna use you next time for my team. Walls

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Speaker 1: getting a knock at the door. Yeah, how are they

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Speaker 1: at eight o'clock on the Honor Show. So my understanding,

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Speaker 1: that's when they're gonna find because what they did last

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Speaker 1: ahead of time. Well, they did it ahead of time,

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Speaker 1: and I believe it was Roger who surprised Drew with it,

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Speaker 1: it was just in their hometown. Whatever they did like

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Speaker 1: They filmed like they brought Drew into here, and that's

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Speaker 1: the top here, Well, it's been a while since we

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Speaker 1: the cowboy Troy Aikman played what people, a lot of

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00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: haven't gone there in years. What's the last time you've

426
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,120
Speaker 1: been on the roof of your house? My old house,

427
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,400
Speaker 1: which was a one story, which was twenty something years ago,

428
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: same for me. All right, It is all right, Cowboys.

429
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Speaker 1: Next year play at Jacksonville. Announcement comes yesterday from the

430
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Speaker 1: NFL that the league will play five regular season international games,

431
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: Three of them will be played in London and one

432
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: will be played in Mexico, and one will be played

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Speaker 1: in Germany over the net course of the next four years.

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Speaker 1: The Munich in Munich, specifically next year, they'll play in Munich,

435
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 1: next year, in twenty twenty three in Frankfort, then back

436
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:20,399
Speaker 1: in Munich and then in Frankfort. So my question to you,

437
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola is when I mentioned Jacksonville there, Okay, they're

438
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:30,760
Speaker 1: scheduled to play at Jacksonville. Well, that obviously is Jacksonville

439
00:26:30,800 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 1: as a history of playing games in London, and it

440
00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: was announced yesterday that one of their games will be

441
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 1: at Wimbley Stadium next year. All right, what are the

442
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: chances that the Cowboys have an international game this season?

443
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm going to check my passport make sure it's up today.

444
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,120
Speaker 1: Let's go. So which one do you think? Yeah? Well,

445
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: I might have to invite myself, right, I have to

446
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: invite myself. Where would Jerry like to play? Oh, I'm

447
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 1: sure he'd like to play that first game in Germany? Right,

448
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: That's what I'm thinking. As important as the Mexico market

449
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: is to the Cowboys, right, you still you have that market,

450
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,080
Speaker 1: You've done that. Yeah, those school grabbed that Germany market.

451
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 1: So but you're you're putting two and two and getting

452
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: five together with the Wembley. Uh, since they've got to

453
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: play Jacksonville and that's who they played eight years ago.

454
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,920
Speaker 1: Was twenty fourteen when the cow that Jacksonville. Yeah, and

455
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: we keep try. Joseph Randall was on the time we made.

456
00:27:35,840 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: We made We made so many friends out there in

457
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: London with that Cowboys fan club. It's like they keep

458
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: asking when you're coming back, when you're coming back. It's like, well,

459
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: we want to come back. Um, that was a great trip,

460
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:51,080
Speaker 1: by the way, and if I remember correctly, we did

461
00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 1: uh and we only had I think at that time,

462
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: one podcast going. We did it at a at a

463
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: sports bar. Uh, like three or four nights in a row. Wow.

464
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: And I don't think you guys. I bet with all

465
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:10,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboy club out there and the fans, I didn't

466
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: buy a beer the whole time. And it's like I

467
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: have so we gotta we have a chance to take

468
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,200
Speaker 1: mix shots to Germany. This is what you're telling me. Well,

469
00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna take five shows too. Well,

470
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: here's the problem me, you and Bill. That's right, you're

471
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:31,320
Speaker 1: telling me might have a chance. We have. We're part

472
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: of the podcast family. Now we have a chance to

473
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 1: be in Germany with the Cowboys. That's what you're telling me. Right,

474
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Speaker 1: it's a possibility, possibility, all right. But here's the here's

475
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 1: the problem with a Germany Cowboy game is okay, jackson

476
00:28:47,880 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 1: Unless Jacksonville is gonna play more than one international game,

477
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 1: right okay, and Jacksonville is already playing one in London,

478
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: it would have to be a team the Cowboys are

479
00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,440
Speaker 1: playing at that get to host the game in Germany

480
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: because Jerry's not given up a home game, right And

481
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: by the way, they have nine this coming seas. Yeah, yeah,

482
00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 1: nine home games. And the NFL has also said that

483
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,800
Speaker 1: every team in the league will play an international game

484
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: over an eight year period. Right, So you brought it

485
00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: up in the break, Let me present this, Okay, what

486
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: if the Cowboys played in London and then stuck around

487
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: in Europe and played in Germany as well, get two

488
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,200
Speaker 1: of their road games taken care of in one fell

489
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: swoop in Europe. I would imagine Cowboys going on the

490
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 1: World Tour. Huh. I would imagine that the second team

491
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 1: they got to play would not be happy that the

492
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't have to travel overseas for the game, right right, Yeah,

493
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: I sort of like playing two games in a row.

494
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,640
Speaker 1: They did that year in UH in California. You know

495
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,760
Speaker 1: they're there. But they've talked about the NFL eventually expanding

496
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: to Europe or this will be the test case for

497
00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: it goes over there and plays for two weeks there,

498
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 1: which was the way the schedule would have to work

499
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Speaker 1: out if you had an international team. So one game

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Speaker 1: in Mexico, uh, one game in Germany, three in London.

501
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: So that's five Munich and I think you mentioned they'll

502
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Speaker 1: go Munich, Frankfort, Munich, Frankfort for four years. They didn't

503
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: specifically say Mexico City, but no, no, it's good. I

504
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 1: did say it's at where they played the preseason game, okay,

505
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 1: the big stadium, Stecca Stadium. And then in Munich they're

506
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Speaker 1: playing at Alliance Alliance Alliance. I guess maybe it's Alliance.

507
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Speaker 1: I don't know how all I A Z stop stop

508
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: stop anyway, oh yeah, stop, I'm sorry, just so yeah.

509
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Speaker 1: So that'll be that'll be interesting of the stadium. Oh

510
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 1: oh yeah, Douglas Barriclode just brought this in Buyer in Munich, Okay.

511
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: That's where they'll be playing. That's the home of that's

512
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: a rather famous soccer club. That looks like munching. That's

513
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: not the way I wrote Munich down in right. Hey,

514
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,720
Speaker 1: you look like mudskin. Have you been to Germany? I

515
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 1: have not. I have been to Germany. I did a

516
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:30,200
Speaker 1: couple of NFL Europe games in Germany two thousand and four. UM,

517
00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 1: and did one game and I actually did get paid. Yeah.

518
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: I did one game the Cologne Centurions. UM. And in fact,

519
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,760
Speaker 1: in fact, Jim tom Sula, who was the Cowboys defensive

520
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 1: line coach of course last year, UM, he was the

521
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,880
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator of Berlin Thunder. I did. I think I

522
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 1: did two Berlin Thunder games. I did one in Cologne

523
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Speaker 1: and one in Berlin. And it was fun. Yeah. I

524
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 1: enjoyed it. Yeah, so but drink a beer. I I oh,

525
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: I guess I could. Should I tell us? Tell it?

526
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: You could tell it? I thought of this just the

527
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 1: other day. Steve Burline did one of the games with me.

528
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: He did the game. It was a great game, went

529
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: right down to the wire somewhere. It's on YouTube, and

530
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: uh so it was on It was on Mother's Day

531
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 1: and Burline had a great line and this might have

532
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 1: got him the job with CBS. Uh. You know, he's

533
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: been broadcasting for ever since then for you know, doing

534
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880
Speaker 1: games for CBS and stuff didn't get me a job there,

535
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: but uh, probably because he had this great line. Whoever,

536
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: it was a quarterback for the Cologne team. He threw

537
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 1: a game winning touchdown pass and there was a great

538
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: shot of the mom and dad in the stands and

539
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: they had just had tears. This shows how important I mean.

540
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: This was an NFL Europe game and we look at

541
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 1: these oh that's a minor league whatever, but for these

542
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: guys trying to make it in the NFL. This was

543
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 1: a quarterback. I don't even remember his name. I think

544
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,880
Speaker 1: he played at Michigan State. So it was a really

545
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,480
Speaker 1: good college quarter back and he threw the game winning

546
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: touchdown pass. We show a shot of the parents in

547
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:08,440
Speaker 1: the stands and they just got tears rolling down their

548
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 1: cheek and uh and I said, what a Mother's day

549
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: for the mom whatever, And then Berlin said, I think

550
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 1: that took care of Father's Day too. I still remember

551
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: that was two thousand and four, and uh, but not

552
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: not quite the same as winning a gold medal in

553
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 1: the Olympics, right right, and they show everybody crying here

554
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: these last couple of days. But here it is. I mean,

555
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,200
Speaker 1: so that was eighteen years ago, and you know at

556
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,680
Speaker 1: the time they were talking about, well, you know, Germany

557
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: would love to have NFL football there, and you know,

558
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, of course NFL Europe died shortly after that,

559
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,560
Speaker 1: and so now finally, uh, the NFL is going to

560
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: play a regular season game there. Very good, yea, let's

561
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: go yep, ready for it? All right? Uh, you had

562
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 1: other things on your legal pad. Um, yeah, let's see

563
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: what we got here. Don't forget Pro Bowl. Don't forget

564
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Okay, well let's go. Okay, Ever, since what

565
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: do you got on the Pro Bowl. I'm not a fan.

566
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,400
Speaker 1: I'm not either. I'm not a fan. I'm sorry. I

567
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: had it. I just couldn't, you know, as I as

568
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: I watched it, I was I had forgotten about how

569
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: the tempo goes. I mean, you know, no one even

570
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 1: goes to the ground. That kind of surprised me. And

571
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, I hadn't watching it so long I forgot that.

572
00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: That's why I stopped watching it, you know, because it

573
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 1: just really didn't make any sense. Why do you have

574
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: all your pads on if you're not gonna use them,

575
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: they might as well come out, uh in in the hats.

576
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,320
Speaker 1: You know that you play seven on seven end, there's

577
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: no there's no contact. There's no contact, there's not even

578
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 1: resemblance of physical contact anywhere in the game. It's a man,

579
00:34:58,280 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. They got it. That's a tough

580
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,840
Speaker 1: you know what. I made it. I made it to

581
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 1: halftime and then I said, I'm not watching this foolishness.

582
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: You know, they because they had all these these I

583
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: didn't watch any of it. They had all these bonuses

584
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: guys could earn right, and it's like, well they're they're

585
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 1: so hollow. It's like, who's going to be the defensive

586
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,560
Speaker 1: player of the game. Well, no one's playing defense, you know.

587
00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:25,720
Speaker 1: And if you score a touchdown, you get this many points,

588
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 1: and it's like, well, they're just letting you score. They're

589
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 1: not playing they gotta go back. Look. The best thing

590
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: they did, and I want to say it was Thursday

591
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: night the skills competition. Michael Parsons sports fastest human that's right,

592
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:44,239
Speaker 1: and and and that stuff was actually entertaining, right, it

593
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: was there was so they all they need SETI did

594
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: you did you watch when they played dodgeball? That was

595
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: good stuff, right, they were actually I remember years pass

596
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: watching it. Yet And I'll tell you what, Michael Parsons

597
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: needs to throw a pass because you should have seen

598
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:05,799
Speaker 1: him throw the dodgeball. I mean he was firing that thing.

599
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: And and I'm going, such a star. He can just

600
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 1: he could just he can do whatever. I bully, that's

601
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: where he is. I could just see him knocking kids

602
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: out when he was in elementary st He's just a

603
00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: big but he's got he's got such a natural charisma

604
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: about him. He's just he's gonna be a well he

605
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:29,120
Speaker 1: already is, but he's a superstar. How about speaking, I

606
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: knocked out my best friend playing dodgeball in elementary school?

607
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: You did they want? You want the dodgeball's here? You

608
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: know what happened. We were in the in the gymnasium,

609
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,840
Speaker 1: right tile floor at that time, and uh, they started

610
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 1: the dodgeball. He play with basketball? Wait what a detail

611
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,279
Speaker 1: to remember? Wait? Wait, so they started the game off

612
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,760
Speaker 1: with one ball and they put it at the middle,

613
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,319
Speaker 1: and then you had to have one person from each

614
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 1: team run to get the ball right, kick it right,

615
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: and you whoever kicked it to their team got it right. Well,

616
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:11,440
Speaker 1: we got there at the same time and I ran

617
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 1: into him and he hit his head on on the floor.

618
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: I didn't knock about, but he had to. He had

619
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: to go sit down for a while. So I want

620
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:25,120
Speaker 1: funny again. It's funny now, I think, little old me. Right,

621
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:29,439
Speaker 1: when you hear the story, you think, but here, here's

622
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: here's what do I now, Here's what the here's here's

623
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,720
Speaker 1: what the Pro Bowl reminds me of. Guys. I remember

624
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: we played the last game at Candlestick. You know, got

625
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: all these old guys out there, Jerry Rice out there

626
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:45,479
Speaker 1: acting the food, just trying to relive his glory days.

627
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: And by the way, Spats, you're talking about the floor

628
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,880
Speaker 1: it was on. It was on natural grass, So we

629
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: want natural grass, right, And so I just wanted to

630
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: make sure that detail was brought out. And so the

631
00:37:56,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: last part of the game, Eddy de Barlow is in oh.

632
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: Eddie Dubar was in the game and they give him

633
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: the ball and you know he I think he was

634
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 1: up for the Hall of Famous self, and so we

635
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Speaker 1: just kind of let him score as we you know,

636
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:14,560
Speaker 1: you know, fell down behind him, and you know, didn't

637
00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: even make it look good. It was very comical. That's

638
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: what the Pro Bowl looks like to me. When the

639
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: running back gets the ball, it's it's just no one's

640
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: touching him, you know, you assume that the touch has

641
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 1: made you know, otherwise, it's just pretty It's pretty comical.

642
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Speaker 1: That's what it looks like to me. Yeah, it was.

643
00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:35,640
Speaker 1: It was just a notch. I'm not gonna even say

644
00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:38,040
Speaker 1: it was a notch above. It was right there with

645
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 1: what they showed leading up to that Pro Bowl game.

646
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: It was women's flag football. You watch any of that

647
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 1: lingerie league. That's when I did not watch it. What

648
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: are you gonna say about it? That was sort of

649
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 1: like the Pro Bowl. I tweeted it about it, and

650
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:05,360
Speaker 1: I think it's a very good thing, Mickey. It is,

651
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:10,040
Speaker 1: I do think. And now seriously I think I thought

652
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 1: it was a high school deal, but it wasn't. These

653
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,920
Speaker 1: were teams all right, because the Cowboys actually partnered with

654
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,840
Speaker 1: for fourth ID this past week, and DeMarcus where was

655
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,160
Speaker 1: there at at and t Stadium last weekend and they

656
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a clinic or whatever, it's

657
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:27,959
Speaker 1: an introduction to get an interview with them. I didn't

658
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: wasn't there, but we did as a TV station. We did.

659
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: I need an interview, Okay, you can have it. But

660
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: I think I really do think this that whether it's

661
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: seven on seven flag football, whatever they want to call it,

662
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Speaker 1: at the high school level varsities as a varsity sport

663
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Speaker 1: is going to get approved and it's going to take off,

664
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Speaker 1: and it's going to be very popular amongst girls for females, yeah,

665
00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: for girls, girls, girls flag football. Basically, I think it's

666
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 1: going to really take off. I mean that's just the

667
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,560
Speaker 1: people love football, you know. And uh and there there

668
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: are really good uh female athletes who are who will

669
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Speaker 1: excel at it in my opinion once they start playing it.

670
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: So anyway, thanks us my opinion. They found quarterbacks, yeah,

671
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: didn't find enough receivers. Okay, all right, okay, um, I

672
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: want to talk Hall of Fame when we come back. Yes, okay,

673
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Speaker 1: we're going. We're going. I'm going to elect the Hall

674
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Speaker 1: of Fame this this class. Okay, I've got my submissions

675
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Speaker 1: coming up next and We're gonna read the rest of

676
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Speaker 1: Mickey's legal pad here when we come back on mix shots.

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Speaker 1: do more. Okay, we're gonna get into the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go into our Super Bowl picks. We got

716
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:13,800
Speaker 1: so much to cover here in the last sixteen minutes

717
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,040
Speaker 1: of this edition of Mix Shots. But it has been

718
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: a week and a half since we last got together.

719
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 1: There's so much that has happened in the meantime since then,

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Speaker 1: including one of the biggest retirements in the history of

721
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Speaker 1: the National Football League. And uh well, I think we

722
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:36,359
Speaker 1: need to talk about that to kick off this last

723
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Speaker 1: segment of this week's show. Don't you think so, Mickey?

724
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Speaker 1: Anybody surprised that Tom Brady decided I am not talking

725
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 1: about Tom Brady. One of the biggest retirements in the

726
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: history of the National Football League. Rich Rich dal Reymple

727
00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: is stepping aside. He is retiring after so many three

728
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,960
Speaker 1: decades here. Let me tell you ten more seasons than

729
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: Tom Brady. There you go, that's right, thirty two years seasons.

730
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Speaker 1: Came here in nineteen ninety from the University of Miami.

731
00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: So it's the year after Jerry and Jimmy got here.

732
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy brought his PR or his sports information director from

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Speaker 1: the University of Miami with him the next year. And

734
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: so think about this. It occurred to me when I

735
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: used one of this note in my mix shots last night.

736
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Speaker 1: From nineteen seventy one to twenty twenty one, fifty years,

737
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 1: fifty one seasons, the Cowboys have only had three PR directors.

738
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: Doug Todd eighteen seasons, Greg Ayallo, who had been here

739
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:54,239
Speaker 1: ten years as an assistant one before he became the

740
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: head PR guy in the NFL, and then Rich Dalrympe

741
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: for thirty two years, thirty two seasons, so uh, only

742
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: three games. Ever, he looks he looks as cool as

743
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:14,279
Speaker 1: Joe Burrows in shades, And uh yeah, I first met

744
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: Rich when he was the sports information director at Miami

745
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 1: and I had gone down there to cover a regular

746
00:45:21,680 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 1: season game. H had gone down there to cover the

747
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:29,440
Speaker 1: Orange Bowl when they beat Oklahoma. I believe, uh that

748
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: one year for the National Championship game, and uh, we

749
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,320
Speaker 1: don't need to pause on that, yeah, And uh, I

750
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 1: just thought I'd bring that up. And so when he

751
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: got here, I was kind of familiar with him when

752
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 1: he showed up in nineteen ninety so uh yeah, that

753
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,960
Speaker 1: was Uh, that was a long run for him, and uh,

754
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,760
Speaker 1: my understanding was he just decided that it was time

755
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 1: and think about it not. You know, while he was

756
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 1: the p our director for the Dallas Cowboys, one of

757
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:07,880
Speaker 1: his main jobs was Jerry Jones, and so that was

758
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,239
Speaker 1: a twenty four hour day job, right, um, you know,

759
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: just making sure everything was straight. So yeah, so day

760
00:46:16,840 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: what Rich, Rich and I actually had a lot of

761
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: close contact when they had me up for the Hall

762
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,880
Speaker 1: of Fame, Jerry and Rich. They kind of put the

763
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Cowboys resources behind me. Always make a joke about team Walls. Well, yeah,

764
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,600
Speaker 1: Rich Dalrymple was part of the team walls. Uh. You know,

765
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,359
Speaker 1: we had a little game playing, we had a little

766
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Speaker 1: campaign going, uh and Rich was kind of at the

767
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: at the forefront of that. And so that was very surprising.

768
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Speaker 1: And you know, you got to find out just really

769
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Speaker 1: how personal he is, you know, because he walks around,

770
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: you know, looking very important for that, but when you

771
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: when you when you look at uh, you know, when

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00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:01,879
Speaker 1: you actually get to talk to him, you know, he's

773
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: really a very very cool guy, really a very cool guy.

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00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:09,319
Speaker 1: I was surprised because his demeanor kind of says otherwise. Yeah,

775
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 1: he's a good guy to have a beer with. He is.

776
00:47:13,560 --> 00:47:18,200
Speaker 1: That's very true, and so happy retirement line. Yes, Rich

777
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Speaker 1: Dalrymple and okay, Hall of Fame, the Well the Honors

778
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:28,799
Speaker 1: show is tonight, so Michael Parsons will be your They

779
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Speaker 1: break it down the Defensive Rookie of the Year, just

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Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, Defensive Rookie of the Year, Offensive

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00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year, and by the way, just to

782
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Speaker 1: give you a little and I don't know how much

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00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 1: this means, NFL dot Com had a twenty nine person

784
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,680
Speaker 1: panel that they voted on I think seven of the

785
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Speaker 1: awards and the only one that came out unanimous was

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Speaker 1: Michael Parsons getting all twenty nine votes for NFL Rookie

787
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Speaker 1: Defensive Rookie of the Year. Okay, so that's a slam dunk.

788
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,040
Speaker 1: It's gonna have that. It's like that's going to happen. Uh.

789
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 1: And the only other Cowboy player in the seven categories

790
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: they voted on was Dak Prescott. Uh comeback Comeback Player

791
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Speaker 1: of the Year. I think he got Wow. He made it.

792
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,480
Speaker 1: So we already know the results. They were just doing

793
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 1: They were just doing it. And because because I was

794
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,960
Speaker 1: just definitely stepped up his game. Is it based just

795
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 1: on regular season or playoffs? Well, I when did the

796
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,439
Speaker 1: voting when they vote, when did the voting take Yeah,

797
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: because Most Valuable Player is just a regular season Yeah, right,

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00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: so I would I would think it's just regular season. Uh,

799
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Speaker 1: Jack Dak Dak ended up getting um I think three

800
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: votes for comeback. Burrow won it in a landslide and

801
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: their vote was taken after the regular and Mica got

802
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: one vote for Defensive Player of the Year okay. T

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00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,640
Speaker 1: J Watt okay got twenty twenty some and Aaron Donald

804
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: got I think seven something like that. Okay, So that

805
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,719
Speaker 1: just given the idea what some people were thinking. So

806
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,959
Speaker 1: that's going on tonight and during the show tonight, which

807
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,440
Speaker 1: is I can't remember which networks carrying it, but might

808
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: be NBC since they got the game, but I don't know.

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00:49:18,440 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: I thought it was ABC. Okay, we'll go with ABC.

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00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 1: All right, check your local channel, yes, please local listening.

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Speaker 1: Don't miss it because of me? All right? Hall of

812
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: Fame finalists yea, here they are. Okay. I've got it

813
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,360
Speaker 1: broken down by positions here and so if you go

814
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 1: defensive lineman former Cowboy DeMarcus ware and his first year

815
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 1: of eligibility, Jared Allen in his second year of eligibility,

816
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: Richard Seymour his fifth year, and Bryant Young his tenth

817
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 1: year of eligibility. Linebackers former Cowboy Zach Thomas. You got

818
00:49:55,040 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: Patrick Willis and Sam Mills. Okay, you'r dB Ronde Barber

819
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 1: and Leroy Butler, offensive tackles Willie Anderson and Tony Boselli.

820
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: And receivers Tory Holt, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne and a

821
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: special teams Uh, well, you could call it. He's listed

822
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Speaker 1: as a wide receiver. Kick he's a kick returner though,

823
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Speaker 1: and he's his first year of eligibility, and I've got

824
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Speaker 1: him going in and his first year of eligibility. That

825
00:50:33,880 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: would be the great Devin Hester. Right, So so how

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Speaker 1: many of those Okay, you got five of them going in? Right? Five? Yeah,

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00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: five of these finalists we'll go in as you got

828
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Speaker 1: the others as many as many as five, right, Okay.

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Speaker 1: When I was when I was in, when I was in,

830
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Speaker 1: when I was up for that one year, Roy Holt

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Speaker 1: was also up for it. He didn't make it. Uh,

832
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Speaker 1: what's the offensive line, BASSELLI? He he was up for it.

833
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: When I was up for it. I think that was

834
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Speaker 1: a guy. This is about five years ago. These guys

835
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Speaker 1: are still. Holt is in his eighth year of eligibility.

836
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Speaker 1: I think it's the third. Give me, give me another one. Bill,

837
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Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne is in his third year with Richard Seymour.

838
00:51:24,239 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: I wasn't I wasn't no keep going. Uh, let's see

839
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Speaker 1: Butler Leroy, Butler, Barbara, Barbara Ronde, Barber, Barbara was up.

840
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: So what year was that? What year was that? Everson?

841
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 1: I believe that was five years ago? Okay, so Barber's

842
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: in it. So Barbara, that would have been probably his

843
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: first year of eligibility. And because I think he's in

844
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,800
Speaker 1: his fifth year of eligibility right now. So you just

845
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: read off the names. So what do you think of

846
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 1: the chances are DeMarcus Ware getting voted in tonight? I

847
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 1: think it's it's pretty high, and it should be high.

848
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is I think I think he

849
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,680
Speaker 1: should go in myself, and I think, in fact, I

850
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,320
Speaker 1: got my five off of this list. I've got DeMarcus

851
00:52:13,400 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 1: Ware and Jared Allen going in. And I'm not predicting

852
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: this is going to happen. If I'm just saying, after

853
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,160
Speaker 1: taking a cursory glance at the credentials of all of

854
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: these guys this morning, these are the five that I

855
00:52:26,760 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: came up with. DeMarcus Ware, Jared Allen, Devin Hester, Reggie Wayne,

856
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:41,680
Speaker 1: and I've got Zach Thomas. If you look at I'm

857
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,560
Speaker 1: not saying he's going in. He's not going to get

858
00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:47,280
Speaker 1: voted in. Okay, I guarantee he's not going in. Okay.

859
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: I say that. We're talking seven Pro Bowls, five times,

860
00:52:52,880 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: first time All Pro, my first team All Pro, seventeen

861
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 1: hundred twenty tackles in his career, seventeen interception, seventeen four.

862
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,719
Speaker 1: You you match him against the other guys, and those

863
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:11,400
Speaker 1: some good numbers, yeah, specify linebacker. Yeah, I mean seventeen

864
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty tackles in one hundred and eighty four games. Now,

865
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 1: of course, we saw him at the very end of

866
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 1: his career here in Dallas for one season in O eight,

867
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:23,040
Speaker 1: and what he did in Miami. And I didn't go

868
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:25,800
Speaker 1: into this thinking at all that Zack Thomas would be

869
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:27,759
Speaker 1: in my final five. And then I'm like, you know what,

870
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 1: He's on the All Decade team. I mean, he's got

871
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:34,359
Speaker 1: a I think a really good case, but I don't

872
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,839
Speaker 1: think you'll go in. I must admit I was influenced

873
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,200
Speaker 1: by what I saw here in Dallas. Right. It's good

874
00:53:40,239 --> 00:53:42,800
Speaker 1: that you mentioned that, Bill because that does influence me.

875
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: But if you look back at his early years, you're

876
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:48,280
Speaker 1: looking at a Sharan Lee type of player on this size,

877
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 1: very smart, he played with aggression even though he was

878
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: and he just really didn't get hurt as much as

879
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 1: Sean Lee did either, so he was a little bit

880
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: more stout. I like that. Jared Allen, Okay, where versus Allen?

881
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,759
Speaker 1: That's the thing. Wait, Jared Allen, Jared Allen, give me

882
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,800
Speaker 1: his numbers in SAX Guys, you got one hundred and

883
00:54:09,880 --> 00:54:12,440
Speaker 1: thirty six. He's got one hundred and thirty six sacks,

884
00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 1: and where's got one hundred and thirty eight and a half.

885
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: In fact, it's almost identical numbers. Now, Jared Allen, what

886
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,399
Speaker 1: are we looking at? He came into the year into

887
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: the league one same number of years in the league

888
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:31,000
Speaker 1: is where twelve years in the league. He was with

889
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,480
Speaker 1: Kansas City for four years, Minnesota for six years, and

890
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:38,520
Speaker 1: then finished up his last year in Chicago and Carolina. Okay,

891
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,279
Speaker 1: where did he ever get a Super Bowl he did not.

892
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 1: That's the one difference between Where and Alan is that

893
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,520
Speaker 1: Where has a Super Bowl ring and Allan doesn't. Well,

894
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 1: and also Where's got nine Pro bowls Allen's got five.

895
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 1: They both have four first team All Pro selections. All Right,

896
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: where played one hundred and seventy eight games? Uh? I

897
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 1: don't have Alan's games? But anyway, one hundred thirty six

898
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,200
Speaker 1: sex for Allan, one hundred thirty eight and a half

899
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: for where six hundred fifty seven tackles for where six

900
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 1: hundred forty three tackles for Allen. Uh, let's see thirty

901
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 1: one force fumbles for Alan, thirty five force fumbles for

902
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 1: where one hundred and seventy one tackles for hundred We're got.

903
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 1: How about this one one hundred seventy one against Yeah, right,

904
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,440
Speaker 1: one hundred, one hundred seventy one tackles for loss for

905
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: where one hundred seventy one tackles for loss for Allen?

906
00:55:40,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: No way, two hundred twenty nine two hundred twenty nine

907
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 1: quarterback hits for where two hundred twenty eight for Allan. Uh? Oh,

908
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 1: come on, man, okay, Wikipedia is wrong. I'm sorry he was.

909
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,720
Speaker 1: He was cross eyed when he was reading that stuff.

910
00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 1: But but Everson, what Bill uh is very humbly not

911
00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:07,040
Speaker 1: telling you is that in two thousand and five, when

912
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:10,399
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had the eleventh pick in the draft, Uh,

913
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:14,279
Speaker 1: we both predicted that they were going to draft to

914
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: Marcus Where, and they listened to us and we both

915
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: predicted he would be a first ballot Hall of That's right.

916
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: And not only that, then we predicted that with the

917
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: second pick, Bill, I don't know if they Oh, yes,

918
00:56:29,800 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 1: they did. And with the second pick we figured they

919
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:38,359
Speaker 1: would take Marcus Spears and they did, right, And if

920
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,840
Speaker 1: ourselves was making the call, he would have taken Spears first,

921
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: and you know what would have been left with not

922
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: have gotten to Marcus Where. That's right. You know the

923
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,920
Speaker 1: funny thing about that when guys, when you when you

924
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:53,160
Speaker 1: think about, when you think about this, how they picked

925
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: for the Hall of Fame. And that's why I'm gonna

926
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 1: beg to differ with your Bill on your on who

927
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,279
Speaker 1: you think is gonna make it. For some reason, wide

928
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: receivers they just don't get the love because I think

929
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:08,360
Speaker 1: they look at them as go ahead. No, what I

930
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,560
Speaker 1: was gonna say, I wasn't predicting what's gonna happen. That's

931
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 1: if I was picking, that's who I would have picked.

932
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: Uh huh, So okay, yeah, but they don't. They don't

933
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,480
Speaker 1: really pick wide receivers, you know, like like t O

934
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:23,840
Speaker 1: it took him a while to get in. You know,

935
00:57:23,960 --> 00:57:26,440
Speaker 1: you have some really good receivers of I think Chris

936
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: Carter took a while to get in, if you would call.

937
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: I mean, these are guys who were quality receivers that

938
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 1: represent the league well, and yet they seem to be

939
00:57:36,320 --> 00:57:39,080
Speaker 1: uh not a priority as a as a group, as

940
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: a unit. They see these four and I'm gonna throw

941
00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:46,360
Speaker 1: Hester into the group, even though he's a kick returner. Hester,

942
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: Tory Holt, Andre Johnson, Reggie Wayne. Which which of those

943
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: four should go in? You think I'm saying Hester gets in.

944
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: I'm Hester gets in because of special teams twenty return

945
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: touchdowns in his career, not exactly a wide receiver. And

946
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,920
Speaker 1: I think Tory Holt, you got hold and not that

947
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,480
Speaker 1: much competition either spacts from other return to special teams guys.

948
00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:18,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, I agree with you on Hester, and I

949
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 1: think Holt as well. I think just from a personal standpoint,

950
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you know, guys got to get in

951
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: the other guys. That The other satisfying thing about the

952
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: year that five years ago when I was up for it,

953
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:31,720
Speaker 1: you had two guys that went in that It was

954
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,760
Speaker 1: very satisfying, you know, whether you make it or not,

955
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: if you're a fan of football. Cramer went in that year,

956
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: and so did Robert Brazil. Those are two guys that

957
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 1: have been really on that list of it's a shame

958
00:58:45,160 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: that they're not in lists, and they got in that

959
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:52,280
Speaker 1: year five years ago. So hopefully someone who's been you know,

960
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,959
Speaker 1: toiling for quite some time, we might might be able

961
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 1: to finally get some satisfaction. Well, and let's also add

962
00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: that the Sea year finalist is Cliff Branch and usually

963
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: at this point in the seniors category they kind of

964
00:59:07,560 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 1: somewhat rubber stamped that one, right, Uh. And then the

965
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 1: contributor Art McNally, the old official, right who ended up

966
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,440
Speaker 1: being upstairs? Is that right? Right? Yeah? And then uh

967
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:25,720
Speaker 1: for the coach for the coach, Dick Vermill, and they

968
00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 1: they've got a vote on I mean, they sort of

969
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 1: got a vote on all those guys. I talked to

970
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: Dick Vermill one time. It was pretty formal. We were

971
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:47,080
Speaker 1: both at you and thus did he cry ya, that's

972
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,080
Speaker 1: a good one. We almost we almost shook hands and

973
00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 1: we kind of just pumped fist. Yeah yeah, all right. Uh.

974
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: And who's gonna win the Super Bowl? We're out of time.

975
00:59:56,800 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: Who's gonna win? Rams? Man? Rams can't lose at home?

976
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 1: Cincing That is good, But you know, do they have

977
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,040
Speaker 1: do they have that much momentum? I think Aaron Donaldson

978
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: is going to go off in this game. He will

979
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 1: not allow them to lose. I I I'm picking the Rams,

980
01:00:17,120 --> 01:00:20,520
Speaker 1: but I got this and Vonn Miller and Vonn Miller, right,

981
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:23,480
Speaker 1: von Miller, I'm picking the Rams, but I got this

982
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:29,680
Speaker 1: tugging notions like just gonna do something, that Burrow's gonna

983
01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: do something, and then they're gonna survive. You know, there's

984
01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: no way they should be in this game. He got

985
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:42,360
Speaker 1: sacked periods, but not only sacked nine times, he got

986
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,400
Speaker 1: hit thirteen times trying to throw the ball and they

987
01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:51,360
Speaker 1: still won. Are they firing everybody in Tennessee? Because when

988
01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: the Cowboys lose one, they're firing everybody, right, including the

989
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: owner of the general. No, No, the coach got an

990
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: extension just yesterday. I think Tennessee's I think they've been

991
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 1: to conference championship games. Yeah, ok yeah, and I guess

992
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:15,120
Speaker 1: I'll pick the Rams too. Matthew Stafford from Highlands Mixing

993
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: and Pevin You're going to get Mixing, Okay, all right,

994
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:23,240
Speaker 1: you can convince me otherwise, Okay, I'll go, right, yeah, okay,

995
01:01:24,120 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: I'll go. I'll go with Cincinnati. Then sounds good. Okay,

996
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 1: So I've got Cincinnati and you two have the Rams. Yeah.

997
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: We're gonna convene again next Thursday. And if you asked

998
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,960
Speaker 1: me tomorrow, I might change my mind. Yeah. I'm kind

999
01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:41,520
Speaker 1: of the same way. I'm not solid on them Rams.

1000
01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: You gotta score for us, Everson. Hey, go Highland Park,

1001
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,160
Speaker 1: Go Highland Park. That's the first time I think I've

1002
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,960
Speaker 1: ever said that in my entire life. Been from Hamilton Park.

1003
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 1: You know how much say that? You know? The last

1004
01:01:55,120 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: time Matthew Stafford won a championship was in two thousand

1005
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:03,240
Speaker 1: and five, and uh they Highland Park won the state

1006
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:07,680
Speaker 1: championship game. You know what. The final score was fifty

1007
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 1: nine to nothing. Whoa, you're lying fifty nine to nothing? Yeah?

1008
01:02:15,360 --> 01:02:19,280
Speaker 1: So all right, so that does it for This wasn't baseball.

1009
01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: It's a shout out. That's pretty good. Yep, I try,

1010
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: I try. Okay, So that does it for this edition

1011
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: of Mixed Shots. And I guess next week we'll be

1012
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:33,360
Speaker 1: convening for a scouting combine preview. It's almost Scouting Combine time.

1013
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean this, We're already Valentine's Day is Monday, okay,

1014
01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be like the seventeenth. We're only gonna

1015
01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,320
Speaker 1: have ten or eleven days left in February, all right,

1016
01:02:45,360 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: And I think the combine starts the first of March, Okay,

1017
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: I remember correctly, Uh, March first. I believe that the

1018
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: franchise tag decisions are being made sixteenth. I want to

1019
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:03,919
Speaker 1: see it. But but as far as tendering contracts and offers, yea, which,

1020
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:09,000
Speaker 1: by the way, if you're wondering, the franchise tag for

1021
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 1: a wide receiver is eighteen point five million, the tight

1022
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:17,760
Speaker 1: end is eleven, and defensive ends or seventeen point five million.

1023
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: I just happened to write a couple of those down.

1024
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: What's it for a punter? I didn't write that, all right, Okay,

1025
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:32,040
Speaker 1: there's so much to get to. This offseason kicks off

1026
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 1: as soon as the Super Bowl ends, right, yeah, and

1027
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: all the rumors will start flying that's right, all right,

1028
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,280
Speaker 1: we'll talk at you again next week here on Mick Shots.

1029
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: Enjoy your super Bowl weekend, Everson, Now you guys too,

1030
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,720
Speaker 1: and I will have to say go Cowboys. This has

1031
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:54,560
Speaker 1: been a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the

1032
01:03:54,760 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys Football Club.