1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to brain Stuff, a production of I Heart Radio, 2 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:10,240 Speaker 1: Hey brain Stuff, Lauren Volga bam here. It's comforting to 3 00:00:10,320 --> 00:00:13,400 Speaker 1: assume that once you flush the toilet, the contents are 4 00:00:13,600 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: out of sight, out of mind. But what most people 5 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: probably don't realize is that the stuff we flush away 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,919 Speaker 1: can tell us a lot about the health of ourselves 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: and our community. And that stuff has proven to be 8 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 1: a valuable resource in monitoring the coronavirus pandemic in communities 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: around the world. It's called wastewater monitoring or wastewater based epidemiology, 10 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:39,279 Speaker 1: and since early in the pandemic, a growing number of 11 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: researchers across the United States have been testing samples of 12 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: untreated wastewater for coronavirus. They've found levels of the virus 13 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,919 Speaker 1: and sewage plants given early warning about levels of positive 14 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen tests in the communities they serve for. The 15 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:57,319 Speaker 1: article of this episode is based on how Stuff Work. 16 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 1: Spoke with Devada S. Smith, PhD. And so see It, 17 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,840 Speaker 1: professor of microbiology at Texas and M University, San Antonio. 18 00:01:04,640 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: She said, I've been teaching for a long time all 19 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: the interesting things you can learn from toilets. She runs 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 1: the Smith Lab, where she and her undergraduate team study 21 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: comparative microbial genomics and evolution. She's also the daughter of 22 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:21,760 Speaker 1: a plumber, and she's focused much of her research into 23 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 1: the wealth of information that goes into toilets. Our poop 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: is made up primarily of water, but the remaining er 25 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: so is a cocktail of undigested food, residue, fats, salts, mucus, 26 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: and human pathogens like bacteria and viruses. If you're infected 27 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: with the coronavirus that causes the COVID nineteen infection, then 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: it'll show up in your excrement too. Everything that washes 29 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 1: down the drains of our toilets, sinks, tubs, and street 30 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: gutters travels from miles through our community sanitary sewer system 31 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 1: into bigger and bigger sewer pipes. This ver of communal 32 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:04,360 Speaker 1: sewage flows into a local wastewater treatment facility, where it's 33 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:10,799 Speaker 1: ultimately pasteurized and the harmful material is removed. Regularly monitoring 34 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: wastewater samples over the course of time enables researchers to 35 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: establish a trend analysis. These analyzes have detected spikes and 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: new variants days even weeks before COVID nineteen testing via 37 00:02:23,280 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: nasal swabs could and since all cities and towns have 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,399 Speaker 1: their own sewage plants, researchers can pinpoint where spikes will 39 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: be and whether a new variant is emerging as one 40 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: of concern, Smith explained, imagine if you had two weeks 41 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,359 Speaker 1: lead time and a potential outbreak situation at a dorm 42 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: or a hospital or other facility, you could potentially target 43 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:49,359 Speaker 1: your interventions and maybe reduce the impact of that outbreak. 44 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 1: For example, communities could ramp up messaging to alert the 45 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,920 Speaker 1: public to practice masking, social distancing, and other measures to 46 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: limit the spread of the virus, as well as encouraged 47 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: testing in self isolation for those who test positive. Surveillance 48 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: also gives researchers a better understanding of how the virus 49 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: mutates and how those variants react to vaccines, factors that 50 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: are vital to keeping the public safe. Smith said, we 51 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: need to understand the virus because we don't know where 52 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: it's going next. Public health officials have learned a lot 53 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,280 Speaker 1: about COVID nineteen by tracking the number of positive tests 54 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: by county, state, country, and more. But testing has its 55 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: limitations For starters, it requires people to actually get tested. 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: Many do if they become exposed to the virus, have 57 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: developed symptoms, or are required to do so for their jobs. 58 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: But not everyone in a community chooses to get tested, 59 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: either because they don't have health insurance, have no access 60 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: to tests, aren't showing symptoms, or simply don't want to 61 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 1: get tested. Smith said, if you don't get tested, then 62 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: we don't have any data from you. But everybody poops, 63 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: everybody how to go to the bathroom. So with wastewater testing, 64 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: we have the data on potentially every single person in 65 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: a system. Of course, not all municipalities are testing their wastewater, 66 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:15,440 Speaker 1: but many are voluntarily participating thanks to grants and other 67 00:04:15,480 --> 00:04:19,719 Speaker 1: sources of funding, including the CARES Act. In September of 68 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 1: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention or CDC, launched 69 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: the National Wastewater Surveillance Systems or NWSS to coordinate and 70 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: build on the country's capacity to track the novel coronavirus 71 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: in samples collected at wastewater plants across the country. As 72 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,679 Speaker 1: part of that project, the agency recently unveiled a new 73 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: CDC COVID Data Tracker, where all the data on wastewater 74 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,560 Speaker 1: testing is centralized onto one dashboard for the public to view. 75 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: Several municipalities have created their own dashboards to share their 76 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,560 Speaker 1: data and trend analyzes. The CDC expects participation in the 77 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: program to grow as health departments and public health laboratory 78 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 1: further build their capacity to coordinate wastewater surveillance. However, it's 79 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: still a developing field and there are limitations. Among them, 80 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: treatment plants don't capture homes on septic systems or communities 81 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 1: served by decentralized systems that treat their own waste, such 82 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:21,080 Speaker 1: as hospitals or universities. However, many colleges and universities are 83 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: collecting their own data, including Emory University, the University of Miami, 84 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,600 Speaker 1: and the University of Buffalo, just to name a few. 85 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 1: And while concentrations of the virus and wastewater sampling can 86 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: indicate just how impacted a community is, it can't tell 87 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: the exact numbers of those infected. But having all the 88 00:05:40,200 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: data on one page, literally and figuratively, can offer a 89 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: better picture of how the virus is impacting our country. 90 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: Of course, wastewater epidemiology is not new, We've talked about 91 00:05:53,279 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: it on the show before, and virus tracking vias sewage 92 00:05:56,440 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: has been going on for over fifty years. Smith said, Oh, 93 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:03,039 Speaker 1: wastewater is very sexy right now. It's all over the news. 94 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. People have been using wastewater surveillance 95 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,760 Speaker 1: for years to look for things like polio. For example, 96 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: polio has been eradicated in nearly all countries thanks to 97 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: the polio vaccine, but transmission is still ongoing in three 98 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 1: countries where vaccines lag Nigeria, Afghanistan, and Pakistan. Rather than 99 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 1: relying on reported cases of acute flaccid paralysis, a probable 100 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: cause of polio, researchers have been looking in sewage to 101 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:36,159 Speaker 1: detect poliovirus shed in the feces of non paralyzed people 102 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 1: infected with polio. Wastewater surveillance has also been used to 103 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: detect other viruses such as hepatitis B and norovirus, and 104 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: Smith says she's currently working to refine testing techniques to 105 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: better monitor sewage plants for the flu a. Smith referenced 106 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,280 Speaker 1: a local sanitation utility employer who recently said to her, 107 00:06:55,560 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: it's only wastewater if you don't use it. M Today's 108 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,360 Speaker 1: episode is based on the article hoop slutes why researchers 109 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: are tracking coronavirus in Wastewater on how stuff works dot Com, 110 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: written by Jennifer Walker. 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