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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Lounge presented by Draft Kings. We're getting

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Speaker 1: in the draft mode now, Garrett. Speaking of Draft Kings,

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Speaker 1: Combine is coming around the corner. Next week, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: be out in Indie. Clifton Brown will be there with you.

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Speaker 1: Uh So, we're gonna talk about some prospects this week,

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Speaker 1: and we're bringing Cole Jackson from the Two Guys Watching

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Speaker 1: Football YouTube channel to kind of break it down with us. Now,

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Speaker 1: before we welcome to Cole, I just gotta say I

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Speaker 1: got a bone to pick because a few people mentioned

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Speaker 1: to me, mentioned to me. You know, Ryan gave you

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Speaker 1: a hard time about not being that Cliff had to

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Speaker 1: step in for the podcast last night. That's what we do. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you know next week when I'm, me and Cliff

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Speaker 1: are there grinding in Indianapolis, grinding, and you're sitting here

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Speaker 1: we're me and Cliff are out there getting the interviews,

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Speaker 1: getting the quotes, asking the tough questions, asking the tough

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Speaker 1: U ask the tough questions. Can you draw this Ravens logo?

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Speaker 1: I always ask the tough questions. Can you draw the

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Speaker 1: Ravens logo? Is this Jim or genre exactly? Or my favorite?

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Speaker 1: What state is Baltimore in there? You go? So we

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Speaker 1: will be there. Well, we're gonna have a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun out there. It's it's good to catch up with

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Speaker 1: our folks out there and also obviously the prospects, so

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Speaker 1: we'll be covering that on the site, on the app,

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Speaker 1: on social media over the course of the week, so

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Speaker 1: make sure that you're you're tuned into everything that's happening.

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Speaker 1: Also hoping to catch up with some of the media

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Speaker 1: folks out there, um to get you know, we'll get

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Speaker 1: colds perspective here today previewing the combine, but also want

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Speaker 1: to get perspective from some of the media folks out there,

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Speaker 1: Um who are you know, take a really big picture

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Speaker 1: look at the draft which is also great as well. Yep.

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Speaker 1: So with that in mind, let's jump right into our interview.

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Speaker 1: We're thrilled to be joined by Cole Jackson of the

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Speaker 1: two Guys Watching Football YouTube channel. You can follow Cole

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Speaker 1: on Twitter at Cole Jackson FB. So Cole is a

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Speaker 1: Ravens fan, extraordinary but like beyond fan, Like this is

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Speaker 1: like the upper echelon of fans, not throwing any Shade

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Speaker 1: and other fans. But I don't know where you find

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Speaker 1: the time cold, but like the amount of time that

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Speaker 1: you spend breaking down film, and it's particularly of the

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Speaker 1: draft in these prospects, I I gotta bow down, man,

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Speaker 1: like I'm a Harris Highlights YouTube highlights. Guy, you're sitting

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Speaker 1: here breaking down the film very nitty gritty. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, sometimes you need does a little bit of

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Speaker 1: an outlet to hide from my kid. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: just kidding, No, it's just uh, I mean, I missed

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Speaker 1: the game so much. I played for years, I coached

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Speaker 1: And uh now it's kind of like, uh, you know

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Speaker 1: So it's been it's been a lot of fun. Uh.

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Speaker 1: And and getting into the YouTube channel and getting more

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Speaker 1: to people, but even just engaging with the community on

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Speaker 1: on the film aspect. I've learned so much from them,

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Speaker 1: and I can't underrate that. Like, there's so many smart

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Speaker 1: So it's just been great to exchange knowledge, learn more

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Speaker 1: of our listeners are picking up on your accent out there, uh,

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Speaker 1: Cole is from Ottawa, Ottawa, Canada. That's right here, and

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Speaker 1: we have a lot of Canadian podcast listeners, so this

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Cole, if you heard our episode when

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Speaker 1: we did the travel draft and I talked about driving

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Speaker 1: found out that that is not really drivable. Later. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: as we get started here, Cole, I think that the

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Speaker 1: you don't even watch YouTube highlights. You just you just

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Speaker 1: we just keep arguing with each other, all right, So,

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Speaker 1: col we really wanted you to kind of break down

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Speaker 1: But I could I expect him to take an offensive tackle? Um?

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Speaker 1: Bryant on the other side of the Cincinnati defense. Um,

427
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Speaker 1: you know, but you know again kind of has that shutdown.

428
00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:29,400
Speaker 1: We're always got a really complete skill set. Um, good size,

429
00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 1: good speed, He's got loose hips. That's something I always

430
00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 1: look for in corners because you know, that's something that. Uh,

431
00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to be able to pick up

432
00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:39,200
Speaker 1: some of the shorter, speedier guys that are going to

433
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Speaker 1: do some of the short work. You're gonna have to

434
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:42,880
Speaker 1: pick up guys deep. So you want to see not

435
00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,639
Speaker 1: just speed but agility. Um. You can usually see that

436
00:20:45,760 --> 00:20:48,000
Speaker 1: in the hit movement, the way they flipped to kind

437
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:51,359
Speaker 1: of react to the route. Um. He also looked pretty instinctual.

438
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,440
Speaker 1: He undercut a lot of roots from what I saw. Um,

439
00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,360
Speaker 1: so I think he's gonna have that ability to have

440
00:20:56,680 --> 00:21:00,320
Speaker 1: uh uh you know, forced turnovers and make plays a ball.

441
00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: So really interesting skill set. But yeah, just like I

442
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,800
Speaker 1: kind of came away board just because throw him. I

443
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,439
Speaker 1: want to see what this guy's got. But you know

444
00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:12,600
Speaker 1: you can't knock him on that. Yeah, that's that's good.

445
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 1: We don't want him getting tired. Now, I'll take you

446
00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 1: back into the trenches. I know you're you're comfortable there. Uh.

447
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,840
Speaker 1: One guy I want to have a conversation with is

448
00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,600
Speaker 1: Tyler linder Bomb. Uh. He's been a popular projection for

449
00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:30,160
Speaker 1: the Ravens and kind of the interesting thing around him is, well,

450
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: how high is too high to take a center? Right?

451
00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,360
Speaker 1: Like you see centers oftentimes I feel like, come out

452
00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: off the board late in the first round. But we're

453
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Speaker 1: talking number fourteen, so it's not a premium position. But

454
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:44,760
Speaker 1: is he good enough to make it worthwhile? You know,

455
00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: like Quentin Nelson a guard, what he goes six overall?

456
00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 1: Four something like? I mean, but he's he's awesome. He's

457
00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:54,560
Speaker 1: maybe a Hall of Fame player. Like is Tyler linder

458
00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:58,520
Speaker 1: Bomb that good to be a fourteenth pick? And just

459
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: what do you see from him on film? Yeah? He

460
00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,879
Speaker 1: is so so first of all as as a player,

461
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: he is that good. But my concern with Tyler Linderbaum

462
00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 1: is he's a zone core. He's a zone center. That's

463
00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 1: just the realities. He told Land zero and he's gonna

464
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 1: measure in at six to ninety. Um. I can't remember

465
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 1: the last time the Ravens had had a center that small.

466
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:20,840
Speaker 1: They've always kind of prioritized that bigger center. Um, but

467
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:25,240
Speaker 1: elite movement skills on outside zone blocks he was and

468
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 1: like as fast as the running back. In fact, his uh,

469
00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 1: his shuttle time was I think they clocked him that

470
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,399
Speaker 1: would have ranked last year. His shuttle time would have

471
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: ranked within running backs at the combine. That's how fast

472
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 1: he is. Um, it's it's absolutely absurd, and it's it's consistent.

473
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:46,480
Speaker 1: It's really high level tape. Uh. And if if the

474
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Speaker 1: Ravens ran that teen Gary Kubiak scheme, I could say yes,

475
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: but they don't. So that's kind of where my concern

476
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,160
Speaker 1: comes from. So if people want a game where they're like, Okay, wait,

477
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? This kid's awesome. It's first

478
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Speaker 1: of all, I love him as a player. I just

479
00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 1: don't think he's a great fit for the Ravens. Uh.

480
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,919
Speaker 1: What I mentioned Leoshanelle earlier. What Wisconsin did in that

481
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 1: game this year is they took Leo Shanelle and put

482
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: him in the a gap in the second half opposite

483
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,399
Speaker 1: their nose tackle to take away Lender Bomb's ability to

484
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,960
Speaker 1: combo bob because he was destroying linebackers and he could

485
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,479
Speaker 1: hardly drive the Oceanelle off the line of scrimmage. So

486
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen when he gets in there with d

487
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: J Reader and some of those big noses that he's

488
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: going to see in the in the north. So that

489
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 1: that's a concern. Um. I think it's really interesting perspective, Coal,

490
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:33,040
Speaker 1: I mean, because I think that like he's someone that

491
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 1: fans are pointing to is like, all right, you're looking

492
00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:36,760
Speaker 1: at the offensive line. One of the tackles not there.

493
00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,159
Speaker 1: Just take linder Bomb, right, and you can upgrade the

494
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,280
Speaker 1: offensive line. But you know, if it's not a scheme fit,

495
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:45,679
Speaker 1: then the value isn't there. And I just think that

496
00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 1: that's you know that that could kind of have a

497
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,639
Speaker 1: domino effect on how the Ravens do approach the draft

498
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:51,439
Speaker 1: because if the tackles are there, if you're not going

499
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: to take linder bomb because of the scene, situation's defense,

500
00:23:57,000 --> 00:24:00,240
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Yeah, I just think that that's I

501
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,440
Speaker 1: think you make a great point there, and I think

502
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,399
Speaker 1: that that is something to the fans will have to

503
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,399
Speaker 1: think about as we're looking at these marks. Yeah. And

504
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to take anything away from lender Ballum

505
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,440
Speaker 1: as a player, because he's a fantastic prospect. And I mean,

506
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 1: you get him in a Tennessee scheme, a Dallas scheme,

507
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 1: of Cleveland scheme, any of those schemes where he's gonna

508
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: be running a lot of outside his own pin and

509
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 1: poll getting him out in space, he's gonna be an

510
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: all pro very quick. So I mean maybe they take

511
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,760
Speaker 1: him and they start running more zone. I don't see

512
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:30,879
Speaker 1: if that's never been roman stable. Um. So you just

513
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: always have to consider where this kid's gonna fit. Um.

514
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,440
Speaker 1: I think even to Costa last year when he was

515
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: talking about the center position, he mentioned, you know our centers,

516
00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 1: you know, and he specifically said like six four or

517
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: three guns, big guys, right, So it's just it doesn't

518
00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: quite fit with the way they've trended. So that I

519
00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: just you gotta factor that context the right all right,

520
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,960
Speaker 1: So let's talk about my guy who I've already you know,

521
00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:56,879
Speaker 1: I wouldn't say that this stamp is like a full

522
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:02,080
Speaker 1: ink stamp. There's like a pencil stamp, right, Uh, tray

523
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,360
Speaker 1: Von Walker out of Georgia, the defensive lineman. Like talk

524
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: about a guy who plays like a raven Like this

525
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: dude is just physical and uh, and there's obviously a

526
00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 1: need on the defensive. He's versatile. I think he could

527
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: even stand up and be on the edge potentially. I

528
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: just think that he makes a lot of sense. What

529
00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: have you seen from him on tape and and what

530
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 1: do you look for him to prove at the combine?

531
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,399
Speaker 1: One of the best things to say about him is vicious. Um,

532
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 1: he's got an incredible long arm. He's got super high

533
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: level of functional strength um and and it was consistent

534
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: across even going back to UM. I specifically watched the

535
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,960
Speaker 1: twenty Alabama game because you know, they had Alex Leatherwood,

536
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: they had Deonte Brown and that was an addition to

537
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:46,520
Speaker 1: Neil um So they just and they had Landon Dickerson

538
00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 1: in that game too, So I mean that's top offensive

539
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: line and the physicality matched and that, and that's something

540
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: that with some of these more like bigger, less athletic

541
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 1: I'll say, UM defensive lineman, you really want to see.

542
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,680
Speaker 1: You want to see that physicality on his college shape

543
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: because once you get to the NFL, those guys are

544
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 1: bringing the smoke every week, right, so you've got to

545
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 1: be prepared for it. Um So, in that regard, I

546
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 1: see him as he's a Day one starter because of

547
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,680
Speaker 1: his run defense. First off, like he's that high level.

548
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,560
Speaker 1: He destroyed tackles. I watched the Kentucky game too. He

549
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 1: gave Darrin Kinnard and dar Rosenvella a heck of a

550
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: day that I felt bad for, uh for for rosenval

551
00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,160
Speaker 1: on some of these reps, just because he's just so

552
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: so strong he's got good pad level. Um, I had

553
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:31,400
Speaker 1: the only place I had issues. And I'll go back

554
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,239
Speaker 1: to what I said about Davontae Wyatt when he got

555
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 1: to the Senior Bowl. Trayvon Walker didn't get that opportunity

556
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 1: to go to his Senior Bowl and showcases one on

557
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,560
Speaker 1: one abilities outside of Georgia's scheme. So again you have

558
00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:44,520
Speaker 1: to factor that in because I didn't see a ton

559
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: of pass rush ability. But then again, was he asked

560
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: to do that? Because he did do a lot of

561
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,040
Speaker 1: dirty work. He was doing a lot of inside cuts

562
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: on slants, opening up rush lands for other guys. I

563
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: know Dave Brugler is really high on him, had him

564
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: at six on his top one hundred um and he

565
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: said that he's got all the traits, he just wasn't

566
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 1: asked to do the pass rush things. So what he

567
00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: intrigues me. He looks like the Perenella McFee thrown back,

568
00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 1: the guy that's gonna be that physical early down edge

569
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: rusher you move them inside on pass downs. And then

570
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:18,360
Speaker 1: adds Zadarius Smith into that, like that kind of guy Howard. Yeah,

571
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: and so he's got that first step quickness. Uh, you know,

572
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: I encourage people if you guys want to see it,

573
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: go to Michael Crawford's Twitter at a Bukari. Um, he

574
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 1: put some clips out yesterday which would have been Tuesday.

575
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: Incredible first step ability. So you get that guy inside

576
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: on your defensive line with oh way on the edge. Um,

577
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,000
Speaker 1: I think you can have a lot of fun with him.

578
00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,399
Speaker 1: I like it. Does that make your stamp you? You

579
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: break out the pen now starting to kind of get

580
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 1: a little darker, Okay, yeah, break breaking the pen out? Yeah?

581
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: Well I like that a corner. I honestly think it's

582
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: that a corner for me interesting and I'm still leaning

583
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: on the offensive side. But um, offensive line? What what

584
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,400
Speaker 1: about David Ojabo? Want to talk about one other guy? Uh?

585
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about Mike Donald now the d

586
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: C he coached Abajabo, who reminds me a lot of

587
00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 1: daf Oa, you know. I mean he we're talking about

588
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: a late starter who didn't really put up a lot

589
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: of production then kind of the exploded last year with

590
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 1: Mike with DONALDA didn't never really had the college explosion.

591
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: But uh, you know, is he a guy that you

592
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,719
Speaker 1: could see the Ravens pairing with and talk about in

593
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: away comparison? Um. Not only does he have the connection

594
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: with Mike MacDonald, but in an interview he specifically referenced

595
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: away they're both Nigerian descent. When he came over to

596
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: the US when he was I think fifteen years old,

597
00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 1: he came over to play basketball and he made the

598
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: switch to football. And he said, I saw Odafe oh

599
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 1: Way do what he did at Penn stage, and I

600
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: wanted to do that too. Um. And he's he's gott

601
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: insane tools. Um. He was like a human experiment on

602
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,320
Speaker 1: the edge. He was using pass rush moves. He talked

603
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: a lot about learning from Quinny pay and John Huche

604
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: while he was at Michigan because he didn't play a lot,

605
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,240
Speaker 1: but he talked a lot about a scout his time

606
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 1: on the scout team. Seems like a true student of

607
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:04,680
Speaker 1: the game, insane physical tools. Um. Someone that should test

608
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:07,959
Speaker 1: really well next week in Indie. Uh. And you know,

609
00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: consistently developing a pass rush plan with the limited experience

610
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: is something that intrigues me. Uh. The thing I like

611
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: about him as a fit for the Ravens, he's not

612
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: really uh, you know, a more concrete run defender right now.

613
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,280
Speaker 1: But I don't think he has to be in year one.

614
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 1: I mean you got Bowser and Hayes at the Sam role,

615
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 1: you got our Way at the rush roll, bring him

616
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: into Baltimore and just have him chasing the past or. Um,

617
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: I think that puts him in a position to succeed.

618
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 1: So o jab was a guy that I think fits

619
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 1: really well and then you can get a little bit

620
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 1: of the Nigerian mafia go on with that, A B

621
00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 1: K and and oh ways, so I think that could be.

622
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: That could be fine for the social media team. That's awesome,

623
00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: well cold, this is great stuff. Uh, I really appreciate

624
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 1: your insight. Um, just just some some really good perspective.

625
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 1: And Combine again is coming up next week, so uh

626
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: fans will be eagerly awaiting kind of to see how

627
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 1: these guys perform and we'll be keeping close lye on it. Cool.

628
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us goal. Thank you guys so much.

629
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Speaker 1: I really appreciate it. Alright, So great stuff from Cole.

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644
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645
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Speaker 1: it because there's you know, you gotta take the big

646
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: picture approach here. You've never done the salary cap thing

647
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: I have. That's how my Fantasy Baseball league used to

648
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: be way back in the day. You're always like, I

649
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 1: give you a hard time with the draft. You're always saying,

650
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,360
Speaker 1: every single guys in the first round pick and the

651
00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: Ravens are gonna have fifteen first un packs. I can

652
00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: see the Ravens taking this guy offensive line, defense line, quarterback,

653
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 1: running back, linebacker. Yes, I'm not saying they're gonna take

654
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: all of it. I gotta see them taking one of them.

655
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: So what all right? So combine, Um, what are you

656
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 1: kind of gonna be looking closely at for the comment

657
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: next week? Yeah, I want to see these offensive tackles,

658
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: you know, I think I'm really interested in seeing that.

659
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: And then just what kind of freaks stand out on

660
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 1: the defensive line and defensive front. Like I said, I'm

661
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 1: really intrigued, and I think that the Ravens could certainly

662
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: go defensive in the first round and the front seven. Um,

663
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: so you know, just what guys stand out, what they say.

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00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: You know, I'm I'm a sucker for a good story.

665
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,640
Speaker 1: So I always like to hear these guys and kind

666
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 1: of just get a better feel from them as a person,

667
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: not just a football player, because I think that that

668
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 1: is part of the Ravens calculation for sure. You know,

669
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: you kind of just get a feel for some guys. Well.

670
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: I think that there has been foreshadowing that's taken place

671
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: in the combine. I mean, I think an ultimate one

672
00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:07,240
Speaker 1: was in when Ozzie Knewson was asked about Lamar Jackson

673
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: and he said, on our board, he's a quarterback, and

674
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: that was significant. I also think in twenty nineteen when

675
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: the Ravens drafted Patrick Queen and he talked to He

676
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: knew right away that the Ravens had never drafted anybody

677
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: from L s U and he brought that up, and

678
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Speaker 1: I thought that was you know, it was kind of

679
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: fun to look back on that, obviously after the Ravens

680
00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: drafted him. You know, I think what I'll be curious

681
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: about with this year is a couple of things. One,

682
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: you know, there's been a lot of talk about you know,

683
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: there was talk about the bubble than the bubble bursts,

684
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 1: and they were talking about players not going to the

685
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: Combine and all that. Players. It sounds like a're going

686
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,480
Speaker 1: to the combine and then the whole bubble thing has

687
00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: been getting that burst. But I just wonder if there's

688
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 1: any since it's already the conversation has started about whether

689
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:50,960
Speaker 1: guys are gonna work out. I do wonder if there's

690
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: fewer guys that work out there, and that if that

691
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 1: is more pushing towards the pro days. That's something that like,

692
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: I just I just wonder if that's gonna happen. It

693
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: seems like sometimes some of the top guys nowadays, they're

694
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: just like what do I really do? I want to

695
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: risk it. What do I need to prove here at

696
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 1: the combine? And it's almost like for those death guys

697
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: trying to move their stock up a lot, then it's

698
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, it means more to them, agree, and so

699
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: it's like so they kind of how far does that go?

700
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Speaker 1: You know, It's like it's one thing that's the first

701
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: ye overall, Pick does it and Hutcheson doesn't work out whatever,

702
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,600
Speaker 1: But does that trickle down over the course of the

703
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'll be curious to watch that. The

704
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: other thing, too, is is like I also feel like

705
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Speaker 1: on the medical front, and of course we don't have

706
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Speaker 1: access to the medical stuff, but I think at the

707
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,160
Speaker 1: combine you typically get some of those reports that come out,

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00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: you know, like oh so and so stingily you know,

709
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes get those reports that media members kind

710
00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,840
Speaker 1: of leak out over the course of the week that

711
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 1: his medical looks great or there were some concerns or whatever. Well, yeah,

712
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 1: you always have to take those with a grain of salt.

713
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah he's saying that, right, Some teams putting out that

714
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: Stanley looks like he's not gonna be ready for the

715
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Speaker 1: start of next season, you know, because they want him yeah,

716
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Speaker 1: so I don't know. You always have to wonder whether

717
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Speaker 1: there's a gate from who weeks that absolutely, but it

718
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 1: should be really interesting. I mean, this draft is huge

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens. They have a lot of picks. They

720
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Speaker 1: have their highest picks since you know, they took Ronnie

721
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Speaker 1: Stanley at number six overall. So this is a critical

722
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Speaker 1: draft for the Ravens, especially as they go into an era,

723
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Speaker 1: you know, in which Lamar Jackson is gonna be eating

724
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: up a higher percentage of the salary cap. Eric Dicasta

725
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: has talked about it before. They need to nail these

726
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 1: drafts because you need to have a cheaper, you know,

727
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: talented workforce around Lamar. And so this is gonna be

728
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Speaker 1: a huge draft. I'm really excited for it. And like

729
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: I said, there's not like one position I think that

730
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, it's it's got to be that, you know.

731
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Speaker 1: So there's a lot of different moving parts, a lot

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Speaker 1: of different players, uh, kind of in the mix. I

733
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Speaker 1: will say, I'm excited that I'm kind of excited. I

734
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Speaker 1: kind of miss it that we don't have to like

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00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 1: focus on the wide receivers the whole time. Uh is

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Speaker 1: is that the first pre draft interview with any media member.

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Speaker 1: You know we've ever done where we haven't asked a

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Speaker 1: single receiver question. Yes, that I mean that that probably

739
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Speaker 1: is yes. I mean, do you think the Ravens are

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00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,439
Speaker 1: gonna draft a wide receiver? I mean I think maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a late round wide receiver that they draft fourth

742
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Speaker 1: or later. The fourth would probably be the highest. I

743
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Speaker 1: can see them taking a wide receiver. Like you know,

744
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:19,359
Speaker 1: you're just talking about how much time do you want

745
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,920
Speaker 1: to spend discussing fifth round, in sixth round, you know,

746
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Speaker 1: wide receiver options. Somebody that Cole mentioned there briefly was

747
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 1: Zadarius Smith. What do you think of the latest buzz

748
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 1: We'll talk about two guys, he and Hayden Hurst. Yeah, well,

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00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 1: there's a lot of The eyeball emoji has become very

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Speaker 1: popular over the course of the last week. It's a

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00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,120
Speaker 1: good emoji. It is a good emoji. No one ever

752
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: knows what it means, but you can just have speculation

753
00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 1: of conversation like we're doing right now. It's perfect. So

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Speaker 1: Zadarius tweeted the eyeball emoji, then Marlon retweeted that, Patrick

755
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: Queen retweeted it. So, um, look, I think Zadarius I

756
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 1: really liked him as a guy and a player when

757
00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 1: he was here. I mean I think that um, you know,

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Speaker 1: he he was somebody that I was a surprise to

759
00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: see him blow up to the level that he did

760
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: in Green Bay. Like I thought he was a really

761
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,799
Speaker 1: good player, but he exceeded my expectations when he went

762
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Speaker 1: to Green Bay. So if if the Packers end up

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Speaker 1: releasing him because they're really tied against a salary cap,

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Speaker 1: and he comes back here to Baltimore, I'd be all

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Speaker 1: four it. I mean, the Ravens still have a need

766
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:21,760
Speaker 1: of pass rusher justin Houston is a free agent phenomic fee.

767
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, he may retire who knows, um and so

768
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: always a young player, So like there's still a need there.

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Speaker 1: So if you can get Dari Smith, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a question two questions for me. Obviously, what's the price

771
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: of you know, I mean, this guy signed a huge contract,

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00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: you know to go to Green Bay in the first place,

773
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: and then he blew up once he was there. But

774
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 1: now he's coming off a back injury. And that leads

775
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: me to question number two is you know, when you're

776
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Speaker 1: dealing with free agents with injuries, that adds another layer

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00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 1: layer of difficulty because it's not like they have a

778
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,399
Speaker 1: combine where you have all these medical checks. You're kind

779
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,799
Speaker 1: of taking the leap of faith. You really can't when

780
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: you can do the physical. You know, you do the

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00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 1: physical when they sign, you know, it's like always we've

782
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 1: agreed to terms pending the passing of a a How

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00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,879
Speaker 1: rigorous is that? Phayisical? I don't know. Yeah, so those

784
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 1: are the question marks there, but I'm intrigued. And then

785
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: you have also the aspect of you know, compic. If

786
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: he's released, then you're not giving up a compic by

787
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,920
Speaker 1: bringing bringing him in. The Ravens always love that. Um,

788
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Speaker 1: so I'm interested. I think that they're going to spend

789
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: some money at one spot on defense. I think they

790
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: could spend some money at corner. I think they could

791
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: spend some money at a free safety spot. I think

792
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: they could spend some money at outside linebacker. And uh,

793
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna do it at one of those spots.

794
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 1: And Zadarius would you rather have Tyrone Matthew or Zadarius

795
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 1: Smith you know, or I don't know, you know quarterback

796
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: to be named? You know? So, um, it's interesting. And

797
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned Hayden Hurst too, Yes, hayne Hurst is going

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Speaker 1: to be a free agent. Obviously, the Ravens traded him

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Speaker 1: to Atlanta. UM spend a year in Atlanta that you know,

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Speaker 1: they draft, you know, two years in Atlanta, they draft

801
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,960
Speaker 1: Kyle Pitts, and now he's gonna hit the market. I've

802
00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: all I liked hayting Her when he was here. I

803
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 1: thought he was a good player. You know, I think

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Speaker 1: that he was probably he wanted the opportunity to go

805
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: and try to put up you know, be more featured

806
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Speaker 1: in an offense, and he got that, and he got

807
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Speaker 1: that opportunity in Atlanta. He didn't really blow up UM,

808
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Speaker 1: but I always felt like he was like Mark Angels

809
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: was taken after him and taken in the third round,

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Speaker 1: and so like you're always just kind of compared to that,

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Speaker 1: and it's like, oh, man, like the third round picks

812
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: better than the first round pick, but that doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: the first round picks no good. I mean, I always

814
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Speaker 1: thought hayting Hurst was good, and I still think he's

815
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 1: a good player. So and I think that when this

816
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 1: offense like is really kind of at its best, you

817
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 1: have multiple good tight ends. So I'm on board with it.

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00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: I would, I would and I don't think, you know,

819
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Speaker 1: exactly serious Smith, that's a hefty price tag. Hayden Hurst,

820
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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be a massive price tag.

821
00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:54,399
Speaker 1: You know. I have no idea what kind of deal

822
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:55,880
Speaker 1: he would be. Is he want a multi year deal?

823
00:38:55,920 --> 00:38:57,359
Speaker 1: Does he want to do a prove a deal? Who knows?

824
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: Lots of questions there, but like, I don't think that's

825
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: gonna be. It's not a break the bank type contract.

826
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Speaker 1: And so the Ravens have quite you know, like Patrick

827
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: Ricard is a free agent. I don't know if those

828
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:10,640
Speaker 1: are necessarily related. Ricard does kind of a lot for

829
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: the offense, like, and they're different type of players, very

830
00:39:13,840 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 1: different type of players. Hayden Hurst is much more, much

831
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,160
Speaker 1: more of a receiving threat anyway. But he's a good blocker.

832
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Speaker 1: That's what I like about Hayden Is is I think

833
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Speaker 1: he pairs well with Mark Andrews because he's such a

834
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Speaker 1: good you know, he's a good, strong blocker. I mean,

835
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Speaker 1: he's not a nick boyle, like a glorified you know,

836
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 1: basically a sixth offensive lineman. Good, but he's very good

837
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Speaker 1: at blocking and and the Ravens have questions there, Like

838
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Speaker 1: I mentioned Ricard, whose future is up in the air

839
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Speaker 1: since he's a free agent. There's also the fact that

840
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: Nick Boyle is coming still still working his way back

841
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Speaker 1: from the knee injury. Um so if if that, you know,

842
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 1: reunion could happen, I'd be all for both of it,

843
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: both of them. You're signing everybody, baby side them all

844
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 1: come to the ravens, come to the rains. All right.

845
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Speaker 1: We have a couple of questions here that listeners sent in.

846
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,600
Speaker 1: This one comes from you, semas He says, I keep

847
00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 1: hearing about how we still need a true number one

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Speaker 1: wide receiver, and maybe we do. I doubt we draft

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Speaker 1: another first round wide receiver, But are there any trades

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Speaker 1: that could make that we could make that wouldn't break

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Speaker 1: the bank? Like Mike Thomas, we just spent all this

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Speaker 1: time talking about how we haven't done receiver talk, and

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Speaker 1: now we're doing. Now we got one. I mean, they're

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Speaker 1: definitely not drafting on the first round wide receiver. That's

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Speaker 1: absolutely not happening. They have a number one wide receiver,

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Speaker 1: uh in Hollywood Brown, and they think they might have

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Speaker 1: a number another one in Rashod Bateman. So the whole

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Speaker 1: number one wide receiver, like what the heck does that

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Speaker 1: even mean? You know, at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: like Hollywood, Brown's numbers have improved every single year. Uh,

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Speaker 1: he's got the work ethic, Like is he you know

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Speaker 1: physically he's more of a speed guy or whatever. But

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Speaker 1: I don't care what package he comes in. Is he

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Speaker 1: putting up a good production? Yeah, he topped a thousand

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Speaker 1: yards and I think he knows it, and I think

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Speaker 1: we all know it, like there's more meat on that bone,

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Speaker 1: you know. So No, I think Rashad Bateman, I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I think Rashat Bateman could be a guy you know

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Speaker 1: that's up in the thousand yard territory here, not not

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Speaker 1: very long from now at all. And so yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't see them drafting or I don't see them training

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Speaker 1: for somebody like that is not where they need to

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Speaker 1: be spending their capital, either salary cap, draft pick capital,

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Speaker 1: anything that you don't need to spend a lot of

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Speaker 1: wide receiver this offseason. I'm with you on that. And

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Speaker 1: then even the depth is there too. Tyland Wallace had

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Speaker 1: some moments. Devin Duvernet made the Pro Bowls returner, but

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Speaker 1: it's good players. I want to see what James Brochet's

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Speaker 1: got Yeah. Alright, Another question here, this is Will saun

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Speaker 1: Is you guys always email us at the lounge at

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Speaker 1: Ravens NFL dot Net. Back to tight end. If the

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Speaker 1: top tight end in the draft is available in the

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Speaker 1: second round, would you take a second round tight end? Interesting,

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Speaker 1: especially after signing Hayden Hurst. Um, No, I don't think so,

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Speaker 1: but but I saw, I want to say, a tweet

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Speaker 1: from Daniel Jeremiah recently in which he said, like tight

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Speaker 1: end is really deep this year, Like there's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a mid round, fourth round tight ends that are starters

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Speaker 1: that end up being starters. So I'm intrigued by that.

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Speaker 1: Like I could see a tight end as high as

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Speaker 1: third would even be a stretch. I think maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: a third round pick, but I think like fourth round,

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Speaker 1: fifth round tight end is kind of the sweet spot. Well,

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Speaker 1: they've got all this depending on what happens with Hayden Hurst. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they've got all those picks on the fourth We're not

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Speaker 1: surprising if one of those the tight end and one

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Speaker 1: of those the running back, and one of them as

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Speaker 1: receiver potentially Yeah. No, I actually I'm with you totally.

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Speaker 1: I could totally see one of those tight end and

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Speaker 1: running back with with now. The interesting thing that Cole

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Speaker 1: talked about is he sees a double dip at tackle,

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Speaker 1: which could happen. I've kind of been saying I could

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Speaker 1: see tackle center. And one thing we didn't talk to

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Speaker 1: Coal about. It's like, okay, so if you're drafting, uh,

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Speaker 1: let's say a first or second round tackle, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: put one in the first round. I'm gonna take one

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Speaker 1: in the second round. Then you know what's the center solution?

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Speaker 1: What are you doing it? Or if if Bosman doesn't return,

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Speaker 1: is that McCarry. I don't think Cole likes that. We

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Speaker 1: didn't get a chance to talk about that, but judging

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Speaker 1: by his Twitter profile, I don't think he's a huge

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Speaker 1: McCarry center guy. So does that mean what Tristan Cologne?

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Speaker 1: You're drafting one in the third round, the fourth round?

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Speaker 1: You know, I could see them drafting a mid round

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Speaker 1: center for sure. I could definitely see that. And but

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Speaker 1: is that guy like you know, pencil Thata guy and

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Speaker 1: as a starter you maybe in the fourth round. Then

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Speaker 1: you're probably in a situation there where you say, okay,

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Speaker 1: well we've got McCarry this draft pick, and we have

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Speaker 1: Tristan clone and they just battled out and maybe McCarry

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Speaker 1: starts the year as the starting center and maybe this

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Speaker 1: rookie can take over at some point, although switching things

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Speaker 1: up at center is not ideal. Yeah, the Ravens did

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Speaker 1: in and we're fine, you know, for the best part

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Speaker 1: after Matt Scurry got hurt. But anyway, I think that

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Speaker 1: could be the avenue they go that center. Alright, So

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Speaker 1: again Commines coming up next week, we'll be covering all

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Speaker 1: of it. Should be a really busy week from Indianapolis.

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Speaker 1: Make sure that you're staying on top of all the

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Speaker 1: news on our our app, our website, social media platforms,

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Speaker 1: and uh we will be back with you next week.

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