WEBVTT - Pitching Ninja is back on FT

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, Pitching Ninja. Rob Friedman back with us on FT

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure you check out his book. We'll talk

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<v Speaker 1>more about that coming up in a moment here too.

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<v Speaker 2>Rob.

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<v Speaker 1>It's great to have you back on the show, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>Good to see you.

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Friday. And also, I'm just gonna start with the

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<v Speaker 1>headliner show. Hey, o Tani, do you think he has

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to win the cy Young Award based on

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<v Speaker 1>how many.

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<v Speaker 3>Starts he's going to get?

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<v Speaker 1>Because stuff lies. If he's looking like this, this is

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<v Speaker 1>maybe the best I've ever seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you agree? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean you nailed it. I think it's gonna come

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<v Speaker 3>down to number of starts.

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<v Speaker 4>He gets because it's not only about being nasty, it's

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<v Speaker 4>about how many times you're nasty and how much you've

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<v Speaker 4>carried for your team. So I've you innings pitched is

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<v Speaker 4>probably the gating thing for him. He's gonna need to

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<v Speaker 4>make all his starts and hopefully go deep in them.

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<v Speaker 4>But stuff wise, absolutely like it's best I've seen him.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this.

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<v Speaker 5>I got Paul Skeins on the other line. He's curious

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<v Speaker 5>about that comment. There, so battle between neck and neck man,

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<v Speaker 5>what do you think the big you know, no Wheeler.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean there's an opportunity there for both of them

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<v Speaker 5>to battle down neck and neck. Do you think there's

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<v Speaker 5>a big opportunity and it'd be great for baseball to

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<v Speaker 5>see this happen.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is the year.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, interesting, Paul Skeen's like looked up to show

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<v Speaker 4>Hey when he was coming up too, So it makes

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<v Speaker 4>it really cool. Yeah, Like Paul Skeen's is the best

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<v Speaker 4>picture you know in the in the n L. Definitely

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<v Speaker 4>command wise, innings wise, but stuff wise, Show Hayes up

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<v Speaker 4>there with him, I mean, show hay throws harder and

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<v Speaker 4>his stuff, you know, his stuff is filthy and they're

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<v Speaker 4>both incredible competitors. So yeah, I mean this might be

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<v Speaker 4>his year if he's going to attack it because it

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<v Speaker 4>looks like a you know, two horse race. Yamamoto could

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<v Speaker 4>get in there too, right, so we have a few

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<v Speaker 4>but yeah, I would say, uh, show Hey's gonna gonna

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<v Speaker 4>have to make some starts.

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<v Speaker 6>Rob, good to see you man, How you doing I

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<v Speaker 6>haven't heard Yeah doing good man doing good?

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<v Speaker 1>Happy to be here.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I want to get into Mason Miller a little bit.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know if I'm jumping the gun but I

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<v Speaker 6>just I consider him talk Mason Miller all day. I

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<v Speaker 6>played with him in Oakland now Sacramento. A is obviously

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<v Speaker 6>just a good kid all the way around and not

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<v Speaker 6>such an awesome story. You know what you're talking about

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<v Speaker 6>a two horse race between show Hay and uh and Skens.

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<v Speaker 6>What does Mason got to do to get his his

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<v Speaker 6>name in that loote as well?

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<v Speaker 4>Dude, I love, like talk about the most dominant pitcher

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<v Speaker 4>on earth. We're talking about the other other guys. It's

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<v Speaker 4>nasty whatever nobody wants to hit against Mason Miller. I

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<v Speaker 4>think he needs those two guys to falter. You need

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<v Speaker 4>a non clear starting pitcher as a you know.

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<v Speaker 3>No one, no one can dominate.

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<v Speaker 4>And then he keeps doing around what he's doing, and

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<v Speaker 4>then he can get his name in the conversation and

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<v Speaker 4>again keep making those appearances.

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<v Speaker 3>His stuff is so ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 4>He like incredibly mature dude too, Like I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I met him when he was young, interviewed him when

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<v Speaker 4>he was young, and he still was like really you know,

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<v Speaker 4>had his stuff together. Love watching him ful and absolutely

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<v Speaker 4>a beast.

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<v Speaker 6>I love seeing the edge like you know, like you said,

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<v Speaker 6>he's a good kid, and he speaks well like I

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<v Speaker 6>think he's married to his high school sweetheart.

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<v Speaker 1>Like he's just an all around good kid.

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<v Speaker 6>I like this, like he's running out to like a

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<v Speaker 6>corn song and he's like got some you know, like

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<v Speaker 6>some kind of some f you to him a little

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<v Speaker 6>bit on some of these saves that he's getting. I'm

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<v Speaker 6>loving that. I think some of that's coming from I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know if he was guaranteed the closer position, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>I think they were going to kind of platoon it

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<v Speaker 6>and he's just gone out and said, no, I'm the closer.

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<v Speaker 6>But anyways, what I want to ask you about him

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<v Speaker 6>is is if you go back in time in some

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<v Speaker 6>of these generations and maybe in like the sixties, and

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<v Speaker 6>someone watched Bob Gibson and you're just like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 6>like is this what baseball is going to become? And

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<v Speaker 6>you fast forward to Nolan Ryan, like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 6>like is this eventually whatever picture's gonna look? Like I

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<v Speaker 6>was gonna ask, is is Mason Miller what the future

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<v Speaker 6>of every picture is? Or is he even like above

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<v Speaker 6>a normal anomaly? Like he's just a unicorn of sorts.

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<v Speaker 4>So the cool thing is when he made his debut,

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<v Speaker 4>I literally said, I've seen the future and his name

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<v Speaker 4>is Bason Miller because his stuff, even in his first outing,

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<v Speaker 4>his first appearance was like mind blowing throwing one zero two,

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<v Speaker 4>which is nasty, nasty stuff. I think it's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit of both. Like, obviously velo's important in the game.

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<v Speaker 4>There wouldn't be guys standing behind the backstop with guns

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<v Speaker 4>if it wasn't.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not the be all and end all.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously, pitch abilities important, stuff's important, commands important, makeups important.

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<v Speaker 3>He happens to.

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<v Speaker 4>Have all of that, so he is what every pitcher,

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<v Speaker 4>certainly every closer aspires to be.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think you're also seeing guys go back to.

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<v Speaker 4>What worked back in the day, where they're breaking out

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<v Speaker 4>multiple pitches. And I talk about this this in my

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<v Speaker 4>book Unhittable is like there's a drive for velocity, but

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<v Speaker 4>you can only go so far because redlining bodies means

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<v Speaker 4>that people break. And now we're looking at different ways

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<v Speaker 4>to solve the same problem. VLO works because hitters have

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<v Speaker 4>a short time to make a decision, and if you

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<v Speaker 4>have enough pitches and you can tunnel them, hitters also

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<v Speaker 4>have a short time making a decision. So either one

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<v Speaker 4>works and maybe more pitches is healthier.

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<v Speaker 5>I would agree totally with you there. I want to

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<v Speaker 5>I want to listen. We could talk about Miller whole time,

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<v Speaker 5>because he's absolutely nasty. I would love to see him

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<v Speaker 5>start and throw that beast for nine innings.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that'd be incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>I know back in the day when I was in

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<v Speaker 5>Triple A with the world as Chapman, we tried that

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<v Speaker 5>with him. Took about three hours to get five innings,

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<v Speaker 5>and we said, all right, we'll put him in the bullpen. Ultimately,

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<v Speaker 5>that's part of the game. Jose Soriano absolute phenomenal pitcher.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, a lot of people didn't see it coming.

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<v Speaker 5>A lot of people did point to four e r

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<v Speaker 5>right now through six starts, talk.

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<v Speaker 2>About him in the way he throws.

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<v Speaker 5>Could you see this guy eventually, you know, the Angels

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<v Speaker 5>beering off and not doing well, not only being one

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<v Speaker 5>of the best pitchers, maybe even close to a cy Young,

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<v Speaker 5>but maybe trade bait two as well.

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<v Speaker 4>Absolutely so, he reminds me he's a little bit of

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<v Speaker 4>a horse. He loves pitching innings, he loves staying in games.

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<v Speaker 4>He made a little adjustment where he stands on the rubber.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the biggest thing I can see is like what

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<v Speaker 4>he changed this year as well as where he's kind

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<v Speaker 4>of locating his pitches. He's much better at locating his

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<v Speaker 4>pitches this year and working in more for seamers, which

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<v Speaker 4>makes his sinker more effective as well as all of

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<v Speaker 4>his other pitches. Dude is fantastic to watch. I've been

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<v Speaker 4>on him for the last couple of years and I've

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<v Speaker 4>been like on my YouTube show constantly saying this guy

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<v Speaker 4>is an ace, this guy is an ace, and now

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<v Speaker 4>he's finally turned into it. I didn't expect a point

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<v Speaker 4>twenty four eraas, but he's got all. He's the real deal.

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<v Speaker 6>Man, I want to get into some vlow talk about

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<v Speaker 6>a stat that I saw that just means I don't

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<v Speaker 6>belong in this game anymore. That average writy starter is

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<v Speaker 6>throwing ninety five point four miles an hour to start

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<v Speaker 6>the season this year. I don't even know if I

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<v Speaker 6>have a question. I just wanted to put that out there,

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<v Speaker 6>like where does it stop? Is that going to keep

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<v Speaker 6>trickling up as it has over the last ten fifteen years,

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<v Speaker 6>or you know, is there's just no more Joe blow writing.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, that's at ninety five point four average starting

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<v Speaker 6>right handed pitcher velocity.

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<v Speaker 4>It is absolutely amazing, And part of it comes from

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<v Speaker 4>like back in the day, we used to say, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>we can't take teach velo, so we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>draft guys and then other guys we're gonna have to

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<v Speaker 4>teach the pitch. Then we learned through these facilities that

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<v Speaker 4>came up. You know, you can teach filo and you

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<v Speaker 4>can get some of these guys that had been throwing

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<v Speaker 4>all that hard to throw hard. So you will see

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<v Speaker 4>it continue to tick up. But there's got to be

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<v Speaker 4>a natural breaking point. Again, like we put guns on people,

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<v Speaker 4>they're going to try to compete for the highest number.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just a competitive athlete type of thing. If we

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<v Speaker 4>put numbers on spin rate, they're going to try to

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<v Speaker 4>spin it the most. Everybody's gonna want to be Nolan McLain.

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<v Speaker 4>We don't have numbers great numbers on command. If they

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<v Speaker 4>had that, you might see that be valued more. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 4>analytics is a self fulfilling prophecy where we value what

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<v Speaker 4>we can measure, and if we can't measure it, we

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<v Speaker 4>don't value it.

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<v Speaker 3>Like mental game.

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<v Speaker 4>Mental game is very important, but we don't value it

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<v Speaker 4>because we can't measure it. So I think you're going

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<v Speaker 4>to keep seeing the vila go up until the human

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<v Speaker 4>body breaks. And that's just natural competitiveness. And I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know is that good for the game or not.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to be a hitter.

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<v Speaker 5>That's why I'm not playing. No, but listen, the movements

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<v Speaker 5>of the baseballs are incredible. And talk about movements a

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<v Speaker 5>guy like Noel McClain, his sweeper frisbee thing, I don't

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<v Speaker 5>even know what you call it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's out of this world.

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<v Speaker 5>I want to talk about his repertoire, his fastball, well,

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<v Speaker 5>he faced Fyron Bucks in the other day. First about

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<v Speaker 5>he threw five or six two seamers that ran up

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<v Speaker 5>and in and he swung half swung at two of

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<v Speaker 5>them to strike out. Talk about the movement on him

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<v Speaker 5>and how hard he is to hit right now, it

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<v Speaker 5>just seems like it's every which way in angle that

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<v Speaker 5>you know, he talks to the baseball.

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<v Speaker 2>I need up, down, inside out. How does he do it? So?

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<v Speaker 4>I talk about a lot of players and a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of pitchers that I like. He is my favorite pitcher

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<v Speaker 4>to watch because when you watch him throw, you may

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<v Speaker 4>never see any ball ever move like that. Again, both

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<v Speaker 4>sides of the plate, he can go armside and glove

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<v Speaker 4>side up and down. Smart pitcher competitive throws hard, but

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<v Speaker 4>that's not really even as you know he throws he

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<v Speaker 4>tops out like ninety nine, and everybody's like whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>His stuff is eye popping.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like they're his pitches are teleporting one way or another.

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<v Speaker 4>And I talked to him about his grips are not

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily unique. He grips the ball hard, just he's got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Whatever it is, grip strength, the ability to spin a baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>This dude was born with it. We you know, that's

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<v Speaker 4>one of those things we can't teach all that much.

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<v Speaker 4>We can teach a little bit. You want to get

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<v Speaker 4>guys like Noelan McLain on your team, just so much

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<v Speaker 4>fun to watch and so nasty.

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<v Speaker 6>Rob how about you know they always kind of say

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<v Speaker 6>hitting is is is catching up to pitching, you know

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<v Speaker 6>as far as like the pitchers start throwing fastballs up,

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<v Speaker 6>so the hitters all start to train to hit the

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<v Speaker 6>fast balls up. And then the big twelve six curve

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<v Speaker 6>ball is kind of out of the game and now

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<v Speaker 6>the splitter's making this comeback. What are you seeing? You know,

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<v Speaker 6>you got guys that you know, like like McLean that

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<v Speaker 6>we're just talking about throwing like this unicorn stuff. I

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<v Speaker 6>don't know if there is like one thing that a

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<v Speaker 6>hitter can say, I gotta I gotta focus on the

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<v Speaker 6>heater up or I got to start tracking this splitter

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<v Speaker 6>or sinkers making a comeback. You know, it feels to

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<v Speaker 6>me like pitching is quite a bit ahead of hitting

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<v Speaker 6>at this point. How do you see that playing out

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<v Speaker 6>of the next couple of years as hitters try to

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<v Speaker 6>adjust to where pitching is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think pitching will always lead the way

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<v Speaker 4>because pitchers are basically gone offense. You have the baseball,

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<v Speaker 4>you're a control of it, you can put it where

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<v Speaker 4>you want to, and you know how to attack a hitter.

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<v Speaker 4>You have his heat maps and everything, so you're always

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<v Speaker 4>going to be able to be in control. The hitter's

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<v Speaker 4>a counterpuncher. That being said, I think new trends now

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<v Speaker 4>you're seeing multiple types of fastballs. Guys are like, you

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<v Speaker 4>can't just have a good four seamer. You've got to

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<v Speaker 4>be able to throw a two seamer so they can't

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<v Speaker 4>sit on one or the other. And then maybe a

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<v Speaker 4>cutter like Cam Schlitzer, where you have three different types

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<v Speaker 4>of fastballs and just throw them down the middle. I

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<v Speaker 4>hope they go where they want to go. You know,

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<v Speaker 4>splitters are obviously huge. We have kick changes now that

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<v Speaker 4>kind of act like splitters slash circle changes. We're able

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<v Speaker 4>to design so many different pitches. And again, this is

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<v Speaker 4>one thing I go over my book because I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to show everybody like where pitching was and where it

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<v Speaker 4>is today, and how much harder it is for hitters today.

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<v Speaker 3>It is absolutely absurd.

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<v Speaker 4>We can design pitches just to defeat certain hitters, almost

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<v Speaker 4>in a lab like pitchers are lab.

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<v Speaker 3>Rats and we're just designing them to do what we want.

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<v Speaker 2>Them to do. It's absolutely incredible.

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<v Speaker 5>And I you know, the kids I teach today and

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<v Speaker 5>I'm sitting there, I'm like, you, guys don't have the

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<v Speaker 5>slightest clue you think these kids, you know, they're trying

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<v Speaker 5>to throw curveballs circle change on my first off. Your

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<v Speaker 5>hands aren't begg enough. Just throw fastball and die up

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<v Speaker 5>and you'll be fine.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go to a new pitcher that just

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<v Speaker 2>came in JR. Ritchie.

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<v Speaker 5>Ultimately, you come up to the big leagues, you either

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<v Speaker 5>get your first abat or your first pitch of the year,

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<v Speaker 5>or ever first pitch home run and then boom, your

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<v Speaker 5>life comes doing that. It seems like I said it before.

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<v Speaker 5>He looks stocky, looked like he was under control. Talk

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<v Speaker 5>a little bit about him and how you know his

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<v Speaker 5>performance can help these Braves ultimately.

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<v Speaker 2>Win the NL East. I mean, another good pitcher coming.

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<v Speaker 4>In absolutely and dude as a hitter, that sound cool, right?

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<v Speaker 4>You got to let him have the free before pitch parent.

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<v Speaker 4>So mean, I thought that was awesome, and I thought

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<v Speaker 4>what was even more awesome is how he reacted to that,

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<v Speaker 4>because you up two solo shots.

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<v Speaker 3>Pitch great.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought his change up looked really good, his curveball

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<v Speaker 4>looked great, and his poise look great. Like to be

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<v Speaker 4>tested in that first outing, you're just shoved in there

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<v Speaker 4>and you do that, like really impressive stuff by JR.

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<v Speaker 3>Ritchie and yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Like so to me, looking at the Braves before the

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<v Speaker 4>season started, I was like, if they can survive until

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<v Speaker 4>they get Strider and Schwellenbach and you know Waldrop and

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<v Speaker 4>you know the Smith Schauvre back, then they're gonna be

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<v Speaker 4>tough to beat. They're not only so viving, they're thriving

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<v Speaker 4>with these guys. So I mean, I'd worry if I

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<v Speaker 4>were in the NL, e's compared, you know, compete against them.

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<v Speaker 5>Let's let's go to the Al East with the with

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<v Speaker 5>the Yankees. Here, they are playing excellent baseball. It seems

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<v Speaker 5>like the Ebbs and Flows are really either really good

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<v Speaker 5>or really bad. They're going on a nice streak here

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<v Speaker 5>six games. They got two dogs that are waiting to

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<v Speaker 5>come back pitching wise, Garrett Cole and oh my god,

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<v Speaker 5>I'm drawing Carlos Rodan. Yea, what is what is gonna

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<v Speaker 5>happen here? When you know, I think Carlos is gonna

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<v Speaker 5>be first? Well, actually I don't know. We'll see how

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<v Speaker 5>that hamstring is whoever it is, Who's who's the odd.

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<v Speaker 2>Man out here? Or what's gonna happen odd men?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, I have no idea. All I know is

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<v Speaker 4>you're gonna want those guys in your rotation. Two old

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<v Speaker 4>school dogs that you're gonna want out there, and that

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<v Speaker 4>is absolutely an advantage for them. They also have like,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, tons of arms that they haven't even scratched

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<v Speaker 4>the surface of bringing up or contributing, so so yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, they could be very dangerous. And the emergence

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<v Speaker 4>of Schlittler I think makes this rotation so tough, like

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<v Speaker 4>he also has just ice water in his veins. And

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<v Speaker 4>you had him learning alongside again Cole and Rodan and

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<v Speaker 4>watching the way they go about their business. It could

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<v Speaker 4>only be good for all these guys.

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<v Speaker 6>How about same division, Rob Garrett Crochet off to a

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<v Speaker 6>little bit of a tough start by his standards. What

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<v Speaker 6>do you seem from him?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah that you know, I heard you talking about Garrett

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<v Speaker 4>Crochet and I've had the same problem. Like I thought

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<v Speaker 4>he might be tipping pitches. I went and did overlays

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<v Speaker 4>of his mechanics. I couldn't find anything about tipping pitches.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked to me some of his locations were off

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<v Speaker 4>and he was getting you know, slaughtered in those situations,

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<v Speaker 4>and that some like he threw some good pitches that

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<v Speaker 4>got hit and I don't know if that was luck.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, That's what made me think he might be tipping,

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<v Speaker 4>is there were good pitches that usually are getting outs

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<v Speaker 4>that were getting.

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<v Speaker 3>Hits or it's just luck.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you get beat by luck sometimes and people put

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<v Speaker 4>things together and all of a sudden you have a

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<v Speaker 4>bad outing. I'd still wait and see his stuff looks good.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it was down a tick. Vlo wise but

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<v Speaker 4>nothing like. It didn't make me think he was anything

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<v Speaker 4>other than Garrett Crochet, and we all know what he

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<v Speaker 4>can do when he's on. I'm nervous because i'd like

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<v Speaker 4>to see him have, you know, put together a couple

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<v Speaker 4>of good starts now.

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<v Speaker 3>But I think he's got it back in him.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>The consensus question from the crowd to finish up here

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<v Speaker 1>is they wanted to know anyone else. I guess it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of in the Crochet category that you've been watching

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<v Speaker 1>so far this year, where you're either really concerned with

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<v Speaker 1>the trends or someone you're they're looking for someone who

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, as the crowd put it, talk about someone

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<v Speaker 1>who sucks. That's what they said. So I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>and there's two directions you can go. One is this

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<v Speaker 1>person's not pitching well and I'm worried about his indicators

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<v Speaker 1>and what his performance looks like and his stuff. Or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm watching someone and I'm like, eh, it looks like

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<v Speaker 1>they just had some bad at ball luck or something

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<v Speaker 1>that was off that can be corrected.

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<v Speaker 4>See the bat Crochet was the one who jumped out

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<v Speaker 4>of me like that's the one I would love to

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<v Speaker 4>talk about.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think he's you know, he's fixable.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm trying to think if there's anybody else that's jumped

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<v Speaker 4>out of me.

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<v Speaker 3>On that side. I don't know me. Uh, I mean Webby.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good one.

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<v Speaker 1>Log, So let me let me ask you about him.

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<v Speaker 1>I know he rebounded a little bit yesterday. I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was seven innings, three runs. Do you think with

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<v Speaker 1>someone like that who is so great at locating that

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<v Speaker 1>abs might hurt him in the long run because you

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<v Speaker 1>can't get away with a little bit of dancing outside

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<v Speaker 1>of the zone and kind of messing with the ump

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to say messing with the umpire, but

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<v Speaker 1>he knows who the ump is and what he can get,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're not going to get that same advantage. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not like he doesn't have other tricks up his sleeve,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is one that he just did so well

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<v Speaker 1>for so many years, kind of just tiptoe in the

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<v Speaker 1>line getting someone to either chase or to get that

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<v Speaker 1>pitch out of the zone for a strike.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that that's a great point.

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<v Speaker 4>I think the same thing lest so, Chris Basset's another

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<v Speaker 4>guy that comes to mind who I thought would thrive

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<v Speaker 4>with with the abs system because he throws some pitches

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<v Speaker 4>that get some wicked break and could clip the top.

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<v Speaker 3>Of the zone with some slow curves or something.

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<v Speaker 4>It can be like, I think the umpires are definitely

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<v Speaker 4>more disciplined now and not giving anything because they don't

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<v Speaker 4>want to look like a fool in front of a

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<v Speaker 4>stadium when something's challenged, and they you know, they're competitive too.

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<v Speaker 4>They want to look good.

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<v Speaker 3>So I I think it can have something to do

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<v Speaker 3>with it. I don't.

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<v Speaker 4>I think we're gonna need more more of a sample

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<v Speaker 4>set on that because I saw good stuff out of web.

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<v Speaker 4>I thought his pitch movement looked good yesterday, especially great

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<v Speaker 4>location on rushing.

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<v Speaker 3>Too soon.

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<v Speaker 4>No, not at all, mistake, right, he clearly didn't know

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<v Speaker 4>anything about that.

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<v Speaker 1>No, he was completely unaware, right, ross unaware total what

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<v Speaker 1>was going on that everyone else had seen on social media.

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<v Speaker 3>Nobody talked about that in the clubhouse ever.

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<v Speaker 1>Because yeah, and he's not a veteran that could place

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<v Speaker 1>the baseball wherever he wants and send a message, right, Yes, So.

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<v Speaker 4>His location was pretty good on that one, So I

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<v Speaker 4>think he can locate when he wants.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. I like it well.

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<v Speaker 1>On the way out here, Rob We appreciate you. Yet

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<v Speaker 1>another plug for the book, just to let everyone know.

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<v Speaker 1>Obviously they can get it wherever they want, but just

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<v Speaker 1>to give people a little shout out on what they're

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<v Speaker 1>missing if they don't read it.

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<v Speaker 4>If they don't read it, they're going to keep wondering

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<v Speaker 4>what's going on in today's game and why pitching looks

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<v Speaker 4>so freaking nasty. If they do get it, they're going

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<v Speaker 4>to learn and learn the people behind it that it's

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<v Speaker 4>not just lifers in baseball. A lot of these guys

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<v Speaker 4>came from the outside and kind of changed how we

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<v Speaker 4>view the game or how we teach the game. So

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to learn about pitching by my book.

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<v Speaker 2>There you go.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the best little twenty second pitch that you could

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<v Speaker 1>put together.

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>Good stuff, Rob, Great to see you again. Appreciate you.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll catch you soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, absolutely, thanks for having me on fe