Speaker 1: Hello friends, this is Josh with this week's select Our
Speaker 1: June twenty sixteen episode on Space Stations. I like to
Speaker 1: think of it as a far out look at living
Speaker 1: in space. I hope you enjoy it thoroughly.
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Speaker 1: Hey, and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with
Speaker 1: Charles W. Chuck Bryant, and Jerry. This is Stuff you
Speaker 1: should Know.
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Speaker 1: Have you ever looked to the sky at night, seen
Speaker 1: some stars flying by and thought, why don't we live
Speaker 1: up there? Uh? Sure?
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen the ISS cruising?
Speaker 1: No? I used to. Apparently you can. I used, Yes,
Speaker 1: I used to get either text or emails. I can't
Speaker 1: remember that. Would you just put it in your zip
Speaker 1: code and it sends you texts alerts when the ISS
Speaker 1: is going to be flying overhead.
Speaker 2: I thought you were going to say one of the
Speaker 2: lead astronauts would just text you be like, Josh, lo up,
Speaker 2: what are you doing? We're over your house right now.
Speaker 1: But I mean, basically it's not from the astronaut, but
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. It's saying, like, look up in
Speaker 1: this direction at this time, and you'll you should be
Speaker 1: able to see the ISS pretty neat. Yeah. I don't
Speaker 1: think we actually ever went out and looked at it,
Speaker 1: because it was always at like three in the morning
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this really like thrills me to no end. Once
Speaker 2: I started looking into this, like I never paid a
Speaker 2: lot of attention, and it really just dawned on me,
Speaker 2: Like people are living in outer space.
Speaker 1: Continuous full time. The International Space Station has been continuously
Speaker 1: inhabited since it was launched in nineteen ninety eight.
Speaker 2: Yeah. In fact, they just took their one hundred thousandth
Speaker 2: orbit of Earth. That's really neat in May of this year.
Speaker 2: Expedition forty seven began in March.
Speaker 1: That's so cool, man, And like we just it's like
Speaker 1: you were saying, you don't really stop and think about it,
Speaker 1: but we're living in space now. Yeah, humanity is extended
Speaker 1: at least into Earth's orbit, right, that's where we're living.
Speaker 1: And we just kind of seemed to take that for granted.
Speaker 1: But that wasn't always the case as actually, And I
Speaker 1: think the reason why we do kind of take it
Speaker 1: for granted is because the conception of living in space
Speaker 1: that we're at right now is remedial compared to where
Speaker 1: everyone expected it to be in like the mid seventies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when the idea of space colonization was at its peak. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean NASA Ames Research Center was conducting summer studies
Speaker 1: is what they were called, where they would just get
Speaker 1: the public really jazzed about living in space. And the
Speaker 1: best you can say, or the least you can say,
Speaker 1: is that it bore some pretty awesome artists renderings what
Speaker 1: space colonies will look like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it seemed like every other issue of Popular Science
Speaker 2: was just some cool new picture of like, you know,
Speaker 2: one day we're going to be living out.
Speaker 1: Here, right exactly, but the one day seemed a lot
Speaker 1: closer than it does now, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But at the most you can say that that space
Speaker 1: calony fever that was going on in the seventies definitely
Speaker 1: laid the groundwork paved the way for where we are now,
Speaker 1: which is living in space. We just don't have like
Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick esque space hotels that are big rotating wheels
Speaker 1: at the moment. Doesn't mean we're not going to, yeh.
Speaker 1: It just didn't happen as fast as everybody thought it
Speaker 1: was going to. And I was trying to figure out why,
Speaker 1: and apparently it's because of the Shuttle program. Like this
Speaker 1: space colony fever was based on the idea that launching
Speaker 1: the Space Shuttle was going to be way cheaper than
Speaker 1: launching any of the rockets had been previously. That didn't
Speaker 1: pan out to be the case. Yeah, And that there
Speaker 1: would be something like like it.
Speaker 2: Was going to be like a space taxi. I remember
Speaker 2: those words, sixty.
Speaker 1: Like at least sixty launches a year, which didn't pan
Speaker 1: out to be the case either. But they thought that, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just we're gonna be going back and forth
Speaker 1: to space for like next to nothing all the time,
Speaker 1: and that we would be colonizing space pretty quickly. That
Speaker 1: didn't pan out. The Space Shuttle program didn't pan out
Speaker 1: to be that as cheap or as frequent, and so
Speaker 1: this dream of space colony or this enthusiasm for space
Speaker 1: colonization was kind of lost. But luckily it wasn't lost
Speaker 1: by the actual engineers who were in charge of putting
Speaker 1: people in space and figuring out how to live in space.
Speaker 1: And that whole idea is probably still coming. It's just
Speaker 1: a little further down the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: And there are many, many, many, hundreds and hundreds of
Speaker 2: people that helped make this reality over the years, but
Speaker 2: a lot of this can be laid at the feet
Speaker 2: of mister Verna von Braun, who was the architect of
Speaker 2: the US space program, and he was the big champion
Speaker 2: of space stations early on, like in a real viable way.
Speaker 1: Well, he was like the Carl Sagan of his day.
Speaker 1: He realized that he had a quote he said that
Speaker 1: we can publish scientific papers and treatises till hell freeze
Speaker 1: is over, but if we don't get the attention of
Speaker 1: the taxpayer, we're going We're not going anywhere.
Speaker 2: And how do you do that? You start putting people
Speaker 2: on the moon and start building space stations.
Speaker 1: Well, even more basic than that, he started he wrote
Speaker 1: like popular articles and popular magazines to get the public's
Speaker 1: imagination prime for that kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And his idea was it was not just like hey,
Speaker 2: look at a neat thing we can do. It's you know,
Speaker 2: you have an Antarctic outpost. You have back in the
Speaker 2: old days, he had an out west outpost. He was like,
Speaker 2: we need an outpost. We need a place where people
Speaker 2: can live and work and as their base station.
Speaker 1: Essentially, sure, space is a frontier, but you watch a
Speaker 1: star trek knows.
Speaker 2: That the final frontier, right, Well, that's.
Speaker 1: What we think, That's what we thought back then. I'm
Speaker 1: sure there's other frontiers, new dimensions to explore. Sure, that
Speaker 1: kind of thing.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, let's just talk about why. What are some
Speaker 2: of the reasons we should do this. You mentioned just
Speaker 2: capturing the public, and it certainly would do a lot
Speaker 2: to rally people around spending funds on you know, space travel,
Speaker 2: NASA allocating funds towards this kind of.
Speaker 1: Thing, right, you mean space tourism.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, not space tourism. But just initially, you know,
Speaker 2: they needed the support of the popular American opinion.
Speaker 1: Right, which is why Von Brown said, I'm going to
Speaker 1: like reach out to the public directly through Colliers magazine.
Speaker 1: He did a three part he hosted a three part
Speaker 1: show on like the Wonderful World of Disney about living
Speaker 1: in space, and we really got people jazzed about this
Speaker 1: back in the fifties. Yeah, then it peaked again in
Speaker 1: the seventies, Like I was saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but one of the big reasons that you would
Speaker 2: want to have a working space station is, aside from
Speaker 2: the convenience of you know, having it up there and
Speaker 2: not having to go back and forth every time you
Speaker 2: want to do so, right, is things are different up
Speaker 2: there and you can do different things without gravity. That
Speaker 2: you can't do here on Earth, like research, Yeah, like
Speaker 2: remarkable things.
Speaker 1: So it turns out gravity has a weird effect on
Speaker 1: crystals and the way they form flaws them like inevitably.
Speaker 1: But if you're out there in microgravity, there are far
Speaker 1: fewer flaws, and the crystals tend to form more perfectly.
Speaker 1: So you can do things like make really good semiconductors,
Speaker 1: right for microchips. Sure, you can also crystallize drugs better
Speaker 1: to make them more potent. You can really knock your
Speaker 1: socks off.
Speaker 2: So research up there that can make things better here,
Speaker 2: right a point.
Speaker 1: Not just research, but figure out how to do it there,
Speaker 1: and then build on that by building a manufacturing facility
Speaker 1: for semiconductors out in space. Yeah, man, and then bring
Speaker 1: them back to Earth and be like, watch how fast
Speaker 1: this baby ghess.
Speaker 2: Another thing that no gravity or micro gravity does is
Speaker 2: it makes flames, you know, flames here on Earth with
Speaker 2: our stupid gravity pulling it in every direction, makes a
Speaker 2: flame very unsteady and unpredictable, makes studying combustion more difficult.
Speaker 1: Remember when we talked about fire.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fire in space is very consistent and perfect.
Speaker 1: It's around. Yeah, it's so cool.
Speaker 2: So you could you could potentially with h with a
Speaker 2: perfect flame like that, then perfect flame that's got to
Speaker 2: be a song.
Speaker 1: Eternal flame is what you're thinking of.
Speaker 2: No, I'm saying perfect flaim Now you're thinking of eternal flame.
Speaker 2: Such a josh ism. That's one of my favorites. Microgravity, though,
Speaker 2: you can have that eternal flame that is perfect and round,
Speaker 2: and you can study combustion in a more pure fashion,
Speaker 2: and you could build a better furnace maybe or find
Speaker 2: out how to reduce air pollution by making things more efficient.
Speaker 1: Right, And this is just like two things that you
Speaker 1: could do in space.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there are a thousand things we could list, right.
Speaker 1: And as a matter of fact, some of the early
Speaker 1: ideas for space stations were These were concepts that used
Speaker 1: like moon mined minerals and materials and assembled in space
Speaker 1: so that you didn't have to launch them from Earth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so this whole idea of like creating things in space
Speaker 1: was even used to form the basis of these places
Speaker 1: where we would actually live while we were doing this stuff.
Speaker 1: It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah. It also offers a unique perspective on the Earth.
Speaker 2: If we're talking about landforms and oceans, your atmosphere, speaking
Speaker 2: of which they can take much better pictures looking in
Speaker 2: the other direction into deep space because they don't have
Speaker 2: that pesky atmosphere in the way, right, So lots of
Speaker 2: great reasons to be up there, not the least of
Speaker 2: which is something you mentioned earlier, space tourism, which is
Speaker 2: going to happen at some point, right, Like people are
Speaker 2: looking into who is this one company? Galactic suite. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they're still at it.
Speaker 1: Well, none that I saw there really still says they're
Speaker 1: planning on launching in twenty twelve.
Speaker 2: Oh I thought that they. I thought they were still
Speaker 2: kind of I mean obviously not on that timeline, right
Speaker 2: unless they.
Speaker 1: I mean, their site is still up, somebody's still paying
Speaker 1: for the domain. That doesn't mean but it still says
Speaker 1: like they're gonna be They're gonna head for the star
Speaker 1: the stars in twenty twelve. And then I found another
Speaker 1: Russian one that was looked pretty promising, but their site
Speaker 1: apparently was not updated since twenty ten. But a company
Speaker 1: called Bigelow Industries very recently had SpaceX Fairy capsule up
Speaker 1: to the ISS. It was an inflatable capsule that was
Speaker 1: a habitat module that was meant to be a prototype
Speaker 1: for a space hotel, and they couldn't get it inflated.
Speaker 1: It was in They just aborted the mission. But like
Speaker 1: people are still working on the concept of space tourism
Speaker 1: like today.
Speaker 2: Well, I know, the Galactic Suite said, They're like, we
Speaker 2: think it'll cost four million dollars for a weekend stay,
Speaker 2: and our data suggests that there are about forty thousand
Speaker 2: people in the world that can and will pay for this.
Speaker 1: So maybe their site hasn't been updated because they got
Speaker 1: scared with the end of the World twenty twelve thing.
Speaker 1: Maybe and while they were hiding in a cave somewhere,
Speaker 1: somebody played a prank on them and they're still too
Speaker 1: scared to come out and update the site.
Speaker 2: Maybe Well Richard Branson, you know, he's trying to fly
Speaker 2: people into space. Still.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I looked at that. I was like, wait a minute,
Speaker 1: does this Alaskan Airlines merger? Did that kill Virgin Galactic?
Speaker 1: And apparently not, It was just Virgin America that Alaskan
Speaker 1: Airlines took over, apparently in a hostile takeover, But Virgin
Speaker 1: Galactic's still at it.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well that's good. I guess if you're loaded and
Speaker 2: want to ride in the space.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're Ashton Coucher or Jada Perry.
Speaker 2: They were on the list, right, Sure they have disposable income. Sure,
Speaker 2: and the couch up there, the coach either one. I
Speaker 2: feel like I should take a break and regroup and
Speaker 2: then we'll start talking about Space Station's past.
Speaker 3: I'll take one with you, all right, let's.
Speaker 2: Talk about the first one, Josh. We had a great
Speaker 2: episode on the space race. It was pretty much a
Speaker 2: two love that one, a two nation race between the
Speaker 2: US and the Soviet Union, And they beat us in
Speaker 2: a lot of ways as far as first to the
Speaker 2: punch Man.
Speaker 1: They really did. You know, they don't get enough credit
Speaker 1: around these parts for the stuff that they did as
Speaker 1: far as space goes, because they definitely did beat us
Speaker 1: in a lot of ways. Sure, like we beat them
Speaker 1: to the moon basically.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which we pointed out, and our show really got
Speaker 2: us going, sure and led to our advancements.
Speaker 1: Yeah. But also what was it There was another show
Speaker 1: we did recently, Sputnik led to super Balls. But do
Speaker 1: you remember we were talking about the super Bowl? In
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl episode, how Sputnik like made America, post
Speaker 1: war America wake up and be like Hey, stop being
Speaker 1: coddled and lazy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to get back to innovation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, innovating again. And it was Sputnik that did that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right.
Speaker 2: Nothing like the threat of Communist Russia or Soviet Union
Speaker 2: to get people going.
Speaker 1: We're being left behind.
Speaker 2: So back then they were the Soviet Union, and they
Speaker 2: were the first, as we said with the Saliot one
Speaker 2: station nineteen seventy one. Dude, they had people living in space. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the year I was born. It's crazy, yep. And it
Speaker 2: was actually a combination of a couple of a different
Speaker 2: system won the Almas and the Soyas. The Almas was
Speaker 2: a military system and the Soyas was the actual spacecraft
Speaker 2: that varied people to and fro.
Speaker 1: They're still using that things. How American astronauts to get
Speaker 1: to the iss is on Soyu's rockets?
Speaker 2: Oh really?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What number they had?
Speaker 1: I wonder? Oh who knows? Yeah, who knows? A lot?
Speaker 1: They launched them a lot from the Kazakhstan.
Speaker 2: I think, Oh really, h huh, very nice.
Speaker 1: So yet one on.
Speaker 2: Forty ft long had three main compartments, your standard compartments,
Speaker 2: which are like dining in recreation, food and water storage.
Speaker 2: You gotta have your toilet exercise equipment, and then your
Speaker 2: sciencey stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's science the stuff. That's a big deal, sure,
Speaker 1: because not only are they looking at how to make
Speaker 1: crystals better, they're also studying the effects of microgravity on
Speaker 1: the human body, which we're still getting a handle lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we should do an entire episode on how space
Speaker 2: affects your body. Okay, I think that would be like,
Speaker 2: I think I got three or four episode ideas out
Speaker 2: of this one article.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, we should do one just on the ISS too,
Speaker 1: I think so. But well, just kind of briefly, one
Speaker 1: of the things that they've found so far about living
Speaker 1: in space is that your bone mineral density decreases by
Speaker 1: one percent a month, which are like one percent, there's
Speaker 1: still ninety nine percent left, who cares. Yeah, right here
Speaker 1: on Earth, if you were in a senior adult, you
Speaker 1: lose about one percent of bone mass a year.
Speaker 2: Whoa.
Speaker 1: So that's pretty significant. And another thing that they found
Speaker 1: out was that the living in microgravity, when you're here
Speaker 1: on Earth, your fluids and blood and stuff tend to
Speaker 1: accumulate in your lower extremities. Right in microgravity, it tends
Speaker 1: to accumulate up in your upper body and your upper
Speaker 1: chest and in your head and your brain's like, ohh,
Speaker 1: I'm bathed in this stuff. I need to shut down
Speaker 1: production on fluids, including blood, so that when astronauts get
Speaker 1: back on Earth, they tend to be fainty oh wow,
Speaker 1: because they don't have enough blood for a while until
Speaker 1: their body's like, WHOA, something weird just happened. I need
Speaker 1: to start making blood.
Speaker 2: And they say, I'm fainty because of space.
Speaker 1: Somebody give me some tang. My blood sugar is low.
Speaker 2: The other thing they found out was that in space,
Speaker 2: no one can hear you scream.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they try it, fifteen after every hour. All the
Speaker 1: astronauts scream as loud as they can and nobody can
Speaker 1: hear them.
Speaker 2: And that, of course, was a famous tagline from the
Speaker 2: first Alien movie. Oh really, Yeah, I remember seeing the
Speaker 2: ad with the big egg in space, no one can
Speaker 2: hear you scream.
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 2: I was just thought, that's terrifying.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch it. Yep. Oh. One other thing that
Speaker 1: they're learning about effects and gravity. So Scott Kelly, the
Speaker 1: astronaut who famously just spent a year on the ISS. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he has a twin who's also an astronaut.
Speaker 2: Oh, wow, I leave.
Speaker 1: His name is Mike, and Mike has been studied here
Speaker 1: on Earth.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was about to say, you got to split
Speaker 2: those guys.
Speaker 1: Up over the same over the same year that Scott has,
Speaker 1: and now they're comparing him. Apparently Scott came down and
Speaker 1: he was like an inch or two shorter than his
Speaker 1: identical twin that way. That was just one thing, but
Speaker 1: they're they're examining them on a genetic level to see
Speaker 1: what differences have happened, so you can get a better
Speaker 1: handle on what living in gravity does to the human body.
Speaker 2: So he said, them shorter and more fainty for starters.
Speaker 1: He just fell dead away and they just slapped his
Speaker 1: face and poured tang down his throat.
Speaker 2: Well, I think what's lost on a lot of people
Speaker 2: is that these are real. I mean, human experimentation is
Speaker 2: going on, and who knows what the long term effect
Speaker 2: is going to be. These people are really like sacrificing potentially,
Speaker 2: you know right, I mean not just being away from
Speaker 2: family and stuff, but who knows, faint he might turn
Speaker 2: into something really bad.
Speaker 1: Well, not only that, they're also exposed to solar radiation
Speaker 1: and just space radiation that the Earth's atmosphere protects us
Speaker 1: from they're exposed to it, and apparently there's a huge
Speaker 1: possibility their lifetime risk of cancer just goes through the
Speaker 1: roof from moving out there. So yeah, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of questions we have that it's good that we're not
Speaker 1: all just living out in space because we can. We
Speaker 1: got a lot of stuff to figure out beforehand.
Speaker 2: Heroes, sir, is what I say. So the Soya's ten
Speaker 2: crew for that very first Saliot space station that Russia had,
Speaker 2: they were supposed to live up there, but they couldn't
Speaker 2: dock correctly, so they could never enter the space station,
Speaker 2: so they never could even get in. Big disappointment.
Speaker 1: Yea, they just went. They just hung their heads and
Speaker 1: put in reverse in the little module went.
Speaker 2: P yep, that's Earth. So the Soya's eleven crew actually
Speaker 2: successfully lived there for twenty four days in nineteen seventy one,
Speaker 2: which is remarkable, but very sadly they all perished upon
Speaker 2: re entry coming back to Earth.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They're capsule depressurized and their capsule at the time
Speaker 1: was designed for them to wear suits, so they were
Speaker 1: all asphyxiated.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just like died instantly, right pretty much.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, they would have like lost consciousness almost immediately.
Speaker 2: So after the eleven, Soy's eleven, they launched a different
Speaker 2: space station altogether, the Solio two. That one didn't even
Speaker 2: get up into orbit, so they were like, ah Yit
Speaker 2: went through three, four, and five in pretty quick succession,
Speaker 2: and each one basically they got better at getting people
Speaker 2: to and from and they could stay up there longer
Speaker 2: and longer.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think the last one was launched in nineteen eighty
Speaker 1: two and it was up there until like nineteen ninety
Speaker 1: two or nineteen ninety four, and they actually used it
Speaker 1: as like when they launched the Mirror, which we'll talk
Speaker 1: about and I think nineteen ninety six, so I guess
Speaker 1: it was up there then they were going back and
Speaker 1: forth between sali At seven and the Mirror. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: guess probably going like, oh we can we can use
Speaker 1: this vodka over here. You got to go get it
Speaker 1: from Solute and take it over to the Mirror. So
Speaker 1: it was up there for a while. They got there,
Speaker 1: they figured it out, and one of the big differences
Speaker 1: between the early Solutes, Chuck and the later ones was
Speaker 1: that there was a docking a secondary docking module.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The first one's only had one parking space essentially, right.
Speaker 1: And so you had the parking space for the crew
Speaker 1: that was there, and if they needed supplies, well ts
Speaker 1: for them nowhere to park. But if you had a
Speaker 1: second docking port, then you can use well, they used
Speaker 1: an unmanned ship called Progress to ferry supplies from Earth
Speaker 1: to the solute stations.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm surprised that it took them up to the
Speaker 2: Salute six to realize they needed another parking space, because
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 1: You're gonna forget something, right, you left the iron on
Speaker 1: back home.
Speaker 2: We're stuck up here. No one can visit us exact well,
Speaker 2: like you said, though, they figured it out, which is wonderful,
Speaker 2: and that all led to the United States in nineteen
Speaker 2: seventy three lunching their very famous Skylab one space station.
Speaker 1: Which is the best patch of any NASA related, any
Speaker 1: space based anything. Skylab one is the best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Skylab was awesome, but it got off on a
Speaker 2: very bad start, on a bad foot because upon launch,
Speaker 2: like just getting it out there, it had these two
Speaker 2: main solar panels. One of them was completely ripped off,
Speaker 2: the other one didn't extend out like it should have,
Speaker 2: and so this thing almost burned up completely initially because
Speaker 2: it had very little power and they couldn't control the heat, right,
Speaker 2: it couldn't cool it.
Speaker 1: The interior of the capsule went up to like one
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty six. Yeah, so they said, hey, guys,
Speaker 1: that's hot. We needed to go up there and fix this.
Speaker 1: And they actually there were three different crews that were
Speaker 1: sent to Skylab on Apollo capsules. Yeah, and the Skylab
Speaker 1: module itself was actually designed roughly initially by Warner von
Speaker 1: Braun out of a Saturn five moon rocket.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The third stage of it became Skylab, and I think
Speaker 1: at the Air and Space Museum in Washington, not the
Speaker 1: one at Dullest, but the one that's in like the
Speaker 1: like around the mall.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think it has a replica of Skylight you can
Speaker 1: walk through.
Speaker 2: Oh cool, which is so awesome, dude, I would love
Speaker 2: to do that.
Speaker 1: But so the three crews that got sent up there, chuck.
Speaker 1: They managed to kind of like put Skylight back together
Speaker 1: with duct tape and bubble gum.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that first one, Skylab two, they just sent them
Speaker 2: up a week and a half after the fail well
Speaker 2: not fail lunch, but problematic launch. And it's so funny
Speaker 2: how some of this NASA stuff is so simple. They said,
Speaker 2: go up there and essentially take this big sunshade like
Speaker 2: it looks like an umbrella and pop it open right
Speaker 2: to cool it down. And then see that solar panel
Speaker 2: that didn't stretch out far enough, stretch it out.
Speaker 1: See that stretch it out.
Speaker 2: And they did. Commander Charles Pete, Conrad Paul White's and
Speaker 2: Joseph Kerwin essentially saved Skylab.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right off the bat. And not just them. There
Speaker 1: were again, there were three crews that kind of did
Speaker 1: one after the other. Oh yeah, they didn't overlap, but
Speaker 1: they finally got the thing working. And I think the
Speaker 1: last crew spent eighty four days in orbit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the first one spent twenty eight, the next one
Speaker 2: fifty nine. In the final one eighty four days in
Speaker 2: the seventies, and I remember, and this is a big deal,
Speaker 2: you know, this is the first time they were testing
Speaker 2: these long duration man missions to see, like, you know,
Speaker 2: can we go to the Moon because it takes a
Speaker 2: while to get there and back right.
Speaker 1: That was the thing. Like, the only data we had
Speaker 1: was on Moon missions, which is about a two week mission. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so we didn't have any data on what happened to
Speaker 1: people longer than.
Speaker 2: That, Yeah, can we can we set up shop there,
Speaker 2: colonize the moon.
Speaker 1: Even so, they called anything over two weeks a long
Speaker 1: duration spaceflight.
Speaker 2: And I remember in nineteen seventy nine, I remember being
Speaker 2: a little eight year old kid, and I remember hearing
Speaker 2: about because this is you know, in the seventies when
Speaker 2: families would sit around and watch the news and it's
Speaker 2: like how you got all your information? Yeah, And I
Speaker 2: remember sitting around and hearing that Skylab is coming back
Speaker 2: down to Earth in an unpredictable way, and I remember
Speaker 2: being sort of scared and thinking like, wow, this is
Speaker 2: a little weird and kind of a big deal. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Like even a little eight year old Chuck knew like
Speaker 2: something didn't seem quite right.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of people who were really anxious
Speaker 1: about it, because NASA very famously said that everybody calmed down,
Speaker 1: there's there's a one in one hundred and fifty two
Speaker 1: chance that somebody will be killed by Skylab.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, they think like one in one fifty two.
Speaker 1: You want to hear numbers from NASA like one in
Speaker 1: a million or one in a billion, one in one
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're like, I know, two hundred people. I know
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty three people. It also forced NASA
Speaker 2: to admit, we were so excited about getting this thing
Speaker 2: up there, we didn't really think a lot about how
Speaker 2: to control its descent, because that was essentially the story.
Speaker 2: They were like, we can't we don't really know how
Speaker 2: to guide this thing back down.
Speaker 1: They said it would quote cost too much to have
Speaker 1: designed in a way to bring it down safely.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think they were they were in a hurry.
Speaker 1: Well. Also, the problem is is they thought that it
Speaker 1: would just its orbit would decay a little bit and
Speaker 1: then fall into basically that orbit of space chunk circling
Speaker 1: the Earth and would just stay there indefinitely. But it's
Speaker 1: orbit decayed more than expected because there was solar flare
Speaker 1: activity that NASA hadn't anticipated, and so all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: Skylab's on a collision course with Earth. NASA saying it'll
Speaker 1: it'll probably enter somewhere over this thousand kilometer stretch of Earth. Yea,
Speaker 1: it includes Australia, So heads up Australia, right, And there
Speaker 1: were lots of like Skylab parties.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because it's America. In the seventies, people went like
Speaker 2: Skylab crazy disco parties.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. The San Francisco Examiner actually offered ten thousand
Speaker 1: dollars to anybody who could bring in a legitimate piece
Speaker 1: of sky Lab within seventy two hours of it crashing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and some kid actually collected.
Speaker 2: Yeah in Australian. Yeah, he got on a plane. He
Speaker 2: had a little piece of sky Lab because where'd end
Speaker 2: up crashing.
Speaker 1: And the espernce Australia when you're.
Speaker 2: Perth, Yeah, I mean mostly in the ocean. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: they did get a pretty good amount of debris in Australia.
Speaker 1: Yeah, like the sizeable parts.
Speaker 2: But it's Australia. They're tough. They're like everything tries to
Speaker 2: kill us. Yeah, your silly space station can't do it.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, this kid flew over in San Francisco and
Speaker 2: said here, pay up, here's a piece of sky Lab.
Speaker 1: Yeah. His name was Stan Thornton. He was seventeen, and like,
Speaker 1: without even thinking twice about it, he grabbed it, hopped
Speaker 1: on a plane and went to San Francisco, like you said,
Speaker 1: and the Examiner paid him, Yeah, which I did. The
Speaker 1: West Egg inflation calculator, Oh that's about thirty three thousand
Speaker 1: dollars in today's money. Not bad, No, I hop on
Speaker 1: a plane for that.
Speaker 2: That's a salary of a first year teacher, right badly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you can also buy pieces of sky Lab today if
Speaker 2: you've got some dough and an Internet connection.
Speaker 1: Alleged pieces of sky Lab.
Speaker 2: Well, sure, just like anything, it should be not verified.
Speaker 1: What do you call it? Verified? Authenticated?
Speaker 2: Yeah, authentic.
Speaker 1: Supposedly NASA's instead of exerting its domain over pieces of Skylab,
Speaker 1: the debris that was found in saying you give a
Speaker 1: back that some people sent their pieces to NASA, NASA
Speaker 1: authenticated them and sent them back mounted saying this is
Speaker 1: an official piece of Skylab. Are the people who mailed
Speaker 1: it in? Good peeps, not bad? Good peeps wearing brown
Speaker 1: polyester pants up to their chests.
Speaker 2: All right, buddy, let's take a break and let's go
Speaker 2: for a little jog around our gravity office. Okay, then
Speaker 2: we'll talk about mirror and iss. All right, all right.
Speaker 2: We talked about the Soliet, which was the Soviet Union's
Speaker 2: big first success and some failures, but overall I think
Speaker 2: they saw it as a success.
Speaker 1: Right And at the same time, a couple of years later,
Speaker 1: America had SKYLAMB and then the Soviets said, we can
Speaker 1: do better than what we're doing. We can do better
Speaker 1: than anybody else. We're going to create the mirror.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, skylight was not supposed to
Speaker 2: be permanent. No, that was never the intention, but mirror was.
Speaker 1: Was it supposed to be permanent mirror?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Okay, so were the later Soliots. Okay, so the mirror
Speaker 1: definitely was meant to be a permanent one.
Speaker 2: All right. Well, the first crew cosmonauts Leonid Kazimr, solely
Speaker 2: off Solo y Off nice, it's a great name. I
Speaker 2: think it was just those two dudes. They shuttled between
Speaker 2: the Saliot seven, which is being retired, and Mirror, and
Speaker 2: there was some like you said, there was some crossover there, right,
Speaker 2: an overlap.
Speaker 1: They had to get the vodka.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they had to get the vodka right. And they
Speaker 2: spent seventy five days on the mirror, and it was
Speaker 2: continually manned over the next ten years. And you know,
Speaker 2: manned and built. It's not they build these things out
Speaker 2: there or assemble them out there, I guess we should say.
Speaker 2: But they don't just launch a space station.
Speaker 1: Were right, like the ready to go.
Speaker 2: They carry pieces of it out there. Right, just like
Speaker 2: iss and they put them together.
Speaker 1: Although I think, as we'll see later on, I think
Speaker 1: the Chinese launched a full space station.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, of course they did.
Speaker 1: I think they did, but we're talking twenty thirteen. Come on.
Speaker 2: So the Mirror had twelve twelve main parts, which we
Speaker 2: won't go over all those because we don't like to
Speaker 2: just read lists. But you know, it's something you would expect.
Speaker 1: It was a g whiz space station. Yeah, a lot
Speaker 1: of everything.
Speaker 2: You need stuff, a lot of modules, living quarters, transfer compartments,
Speaker 2: docking places. They had more than one parking space. They
Speaker 2: figured that old mess out. Yeah, you know, it's like,
Speaker 2: you know, we should have guests.
Speaker 1: And they did have guests. They had American guests. Actually,
Speaker 1: they sure did, which was pretty cool. It wasn't until
Speaker 1: the nineties after the Soviet Union dissolved, and actually there
Speaker 1: was a cosmonaut a board Mirror when the Soviet Union
Speaker 1: dissolved on December twenty sixth, nineteen ninety one. His name
Speaker 1: was Sergei Kirkvkev kir Ko keV. It's harder to say
Speaker 1: than you would think. Yeah, And he was known as
Speaker 1: the last Soviet citizen because apparently being in space made
Speaker 1: him immune from the dissolving of the Soviet Union.
Speaker 2: Oh really, yeah, not really.
Speaker 1: But that's what everybody said about him, whether he liked
Speaker 1: it or not.
Speaker 2: Well, the Mirror had some problems kind of later in
Speaker 2: its life. There was a fire one year and then
Speaker 2: the supply ship was called the Progress I think you
Speaker 2: mentioned it actually crashed into the Mirror trying to park
Speaker 2: and it's a little parking space, which damaged it. And
Speaker 2: at that point they said, you know what, we should
Speaker 2: just make this thing space junk, even though you thought
Speaker 2: it was going to be permanent. The US is talking
Speaker 2: about this iss station they want us to come help
Speaker 2: them with and that was a big campaign to keep
Speaker 2: the Mirror alive called Keep Mirror Alive, and private corporation
Speaker 2: stepped in said no, let us take it over. Let's
Speaker 2: privatize this thing. And they said, niett not going to
Speaker 2: do it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're not gonna just hand over a space station.
Speaker 2: Okay, No, we're going to crash it into the Earth.
Speaker 1: Right If I can't have you, no one can't.
Speaker 2: Pretty much, so they had a little bit more advanced
Speaker 2: capabilities in Skylab had as far as directionally and in February
Speaker 2: two thousand and one. They slowed those endinges down and
Speaker 2: it re entered the atmosphere on March twenty third, two
Speaker 2: thousand and one, burned up, broke up, and again tried
Speaker 2: to kill Australia.
Speaker 1: I know Australia is like what the age?
Speaker 2: I know, why is everyone trying to land their space
Speaker 2: junk on us? But it was about on AE, thousand miles
Speaker 2: east of Australia in the ocean. Has anyone found these things?
Speaker 2: That's what I was wondering.
Speaker 1: Mirror is near at the bottom of the ocean. I'm
Speaker 1: sure somebody's found some parts of it.
Speaker 2: Pretty neat. Yeah, talk about like space wreckage at the
Speaker 2: bottom of the ocean. That's a movie.
Speaker 1: Who was it? Was it Jeff Bezos that went and
Speaker 1: got like one of the Apollo really stages that had
Speaker 1: been scull than the ocean recently? Probably? I think I
Speaker 1: was Jeff Bezos.
Speaker 2: Or James Cameron. We talked about him too much though, hm.
Speaker 2: So that brings us to iss nineteen eighty four, Ronald
Speaker 2: Reagan said, you know what, I was about to do
Speaker 2: a Reagan, but I thought the better.
Speaker 1: I think everybody wants to hear your Reagan.
Speaker 2: No, I don't want to do it, he said, let's
Speaker 2: he said, hey, man, let's get an.
Speaker 1: ISS station going dead on Reagan. Is that good?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll call it the International Space Station. And it's
Speaker 2: going to be super expensive, so we need some help.
Speaker 2: Let's partner up with fourteen other countries, Canada, Japan, Brazil,
Speaker 2: and then the European Space Agency, which is the UK, France, Germany, Belgium, Italy,
Speaker 2: Netherlands and Mark, Norway, Spain, Switzerland, Sweden. And he said,
Speaker 2: as a good faith measure, let's invite the Soviets. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that was all.
Speaker 1: Well, no, it was Russia by then.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right, Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: And the Russian said, sure, why not. Weren't doing anything.
Speaker 2: And not just being friendly, but you know they they
Speaker 2: were probably the second leading well I don't know by
Speaker 2: that point there were other players.
Speaker 1: Well in space science.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they were still pretty highly regarded.
Speaker 1: Sure yeah, big time. Yeah, yeah, probably more than they
Speaker 1: get credit for again over here, agreed. So they started
Speaker 1: putting the ISS in orbit in nineteen ninety eight, and
Speaker 1: the first people showed up from it was launched for
Speaker 1: They were launched from Russia. Yeah, in two thousand and
Speaker 1: they spent about five months there like basically getting everything
Speaker 1: up and running man taking all of the little desecant
Speaker 1: packets out of everything, like they do not eat things
Speaker 1: that keep stuff dry.
Speaker 2: What is that silica jel?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and pulling off all of the cellophane from everything.
Speaker 1: Uh huh, Well they left it on the lampshades, which
Speaker 1: I thought was tasteless.
Speaker 2: Oh well, it's shiny.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So they've been living up there. Like I said, they
Speaker 2: just launched the one hundred thousandth I'm sorry, the forty seventh,
Speaker 2: but one hundred thousandth orbit of Earth, and we'll do
Speaker 2: one on the iside.
Speaker 1: I really think we should.
Speaker 2: But I did look a little bit into their day
Speaker 2: to day life. They work about ten hours a day
Speaker 2: Monday through Friday, about half that on a Saturday, and
Speaker 2: then they take Sunday off and then the rest of
Speaker 2: the time is you know, relaxation, emailing your family, hanging
Speaker 2: out pool side, facetiming. They have sixteen sunrises and sunsets
Speaker 2: a day, which is decidedly weird on your body, so
Speaker 2: they generally just keep those windows closed so they can
Speaker 2: get on a rag skeedu and apparently the food isn't great.
Speaker 2: They don't love the food, no, and they have to
Speaker 2: overspice it. I didn't know this. One of the things
Speaker 2: space does is reduce your sense of taste. I've heard
Speaker 2: that in microgravity. I think it makes everything tastes like Yeah,
Speaker 2: so apparently they like really overspice everything to try and
Speaker 2: make it palatable. And they have to be really careful
Speaker 2: of crumbs because oh yeah, remember Homer Simpson.
Speaker 3: Do you remember one of the great.
Speaker 2: All time scenes when he opened the bag of chips
Speaker 2: in space? Great great scene and then pooping and peepe.
Speaker 1: Gotta go somewhere.
Speaker 2: They have two toilets, only two, and oh.
Speaker 1: There's usually only three or four people up there.
Speaker 2: Well there's six right now?
Speaker 1: Oh six? Yeah, with two toilets. Yeah, how many hair dryers?
Speaker 2: Who knows? They keep their hair short though, because.
Speaker 1: Because there's very few hair dryers in space.
Speaker 2: Well, there's no showers.
Speaker 1: M hmm.
Speaker 2: I mean they can wash themselves. They have like water jets, but.
Speaker 1: Not the same Yeah, not the same, man. I'll bet
Speaker 1: that first shower when they get back down to Earth
Speaker 1: feels so good.
Speaker 2: Yeah. But there's two toilets. They use a fan driven
Speaker 2: suction system and you have to latch yourself to the toilet.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I've heard that too, And there are restraining
Speaker 2: bars to ensure there's a good seal, because you know
Speaker 2: what happens if there's not a good seal and microgravity,
Speaker 2: things will float away. And then there's a lever that
Speaker 2: they hit, a suction hole slides open and a big
Speaker 2: stream of air carries a waste away. The solids are
Speaker 2: collected actually into an aluminum container, and the they are
Speaker 2: then transferred to the progress to take away the little
Speaker 2: shuttle ship like, here's all our poop.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Progress is like thanks, yeah.
Speaker 2: I wonder what they call it progress? And then the
Speaker 2: peepee is evacuated by a hose that's attached to the
Speaker 2: front of the toilet.
Speaker 1: Do they drink it?
Speaker 2: They do? I was getting there, but sure, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: Now it's recycled. It's a recovery system and they eventually
Speaker 2: recycle it back into drinking water.
Speaker 1: Tastes like chicken and.
Speaker 2: The toilets for PEP are an comically correct. They have
Speaker 2: these funnel adapters, So men and women have different adapters
Speaker 2: because you know, they have different parts.
Speaker 1: Yes they do. They do have different parts.
Speaker 2: That like a second grader I just you don't think
Speaker 2: about this stuff. Like. That's the first thing I thought.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, man, how they eat, how they poop?
Speaker 2: Do they watch movies?
Speaker 1: Do they watch movies?
Speaker 2: Yeah? That the they just sit back. I think it
Speaker 2: was the Atlantic had a great photo spread of photos
Speaker 2: that this new mission is taking of space and the
Speaker 2: Earth and you know all that stuff. But then pictures
Speaker 2: on board, and one of them they were had this
Speaker 2: huge flat screen watching the.
Speaker 1: Revenant, watching the Revenue.
Speaker 2: Huh yeah, wow, that's what it looked like.
Speaker 1: I could see these.
Speaker 2: Two guys on a horse. It was hard to tell
Speaker 2: because it was in the background, but I think it
Speaker 2: was a Revenant.
Speaker 1: That are cloudy with the chance of meatball.
Speaker 2: Probably not the movie gravity.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I know they were probably like it could
Speaker 1: never happen. Remember when Nils deGrasse Tyson lost his mind
Speaker 1: about gravity, he went on a Twitter ran about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then then we should talk about the Chinese, because I
Speaker 1: think it's been unfair not to. The Chinese launched something
Speaker 1: called Tiangong one back in two thousand and three. They
Speaker 1: became the third nation on the planet to launch a
Speaker 1: human into space, and they launched their space their space
Speaker 1: station in twenty eleven, and there's been two missions to
Speaker 1: the space station. I think it's no longer active, but
Speaker 1: it's still up there, but the Chinese admitted this year
Speaker 1: that they've lost contact with the space station. It's no
Speaker 1: longer under their control. So it may end up coming
Speaker 1: back down to Earth and we'll have a new Skylab
Speaker 1: party for it. But the two missions included China's first
Speaker 1: two women asked intronauts, Lou Yang and Wang Yaping, and
Speaker 1: they were in twenty twelve, in twenty thirteen, and they
Speaker 1: did I mean, they lived in space for a while,
Speaker 1: just like yeah, everybody else had. But the Chinese don't
Speaker 1: participate in the ISS. I don't know if they've not
Speaker 1: been invited or if they decline an invitation, but they're
Speaker 1: doing their own parallel thing, which I get the impression
Speaker 1: that's making people nervous.
Speaker 2: Interesting. Well, I know it's important that they've had women astronauts,
Speaker 2: female astronauts on the ISS, because you know, you need
Speaker 2: to see what space does to them. And I just
Speaker 2: wonder if they're going to like get to the point
Speaker 2: where they're like, well we need to if we really
Speaker 2: want to call an I space, we need to see
Speaker 2: what happens when a baby is up there, or give
Speaker 2: birth in outer space, or have a ten year old
Speaker 2: or a seventy five year old.
Speaker 1: And a ten year old aboard a space station for
Speaker 1: a year.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh man, no, thank you.
Speaker 1: There's one other thing I wanted to mention. There's talk
Speaker 1: about saving a lot a lot of money with a
Speaker 1: space station by putting it what's called the lagrange point.
Speaker 1: And there's lagrange point L four and L five, and
Speaker 1: they are the little these spots between the Earth and
Speaker 1: the Moon to where the gravity between the Earth and
Speaker 1: the Moon is counterbalanced. So all it does is just
Speaker 1: go in orbit around the Earth and the Moon and
Speaker 1: it will stay in that orbit forever because gravity's not
Speaker 1: pulling on it one way or the other, so you
Speaker 1: don't have to use fuel to keep it in that
Speaker 1: orbit forever. Right. And this is actually like an early
Speaker 1: idea that I think Arthur C. Clark was the first
Speaker 1: to put it out there in nineteen sixty one. And
Speaker 1: these lagrange points are like the orbit's like ninety thousand
Speaker 1: miles across. You can put a bunch of space stations
Speaker 1: in these things and just leave them out there. And
Speaker 1: there's actually something called the L five society that came
Speaker 1: about that is all about this kind of thing.
Speaker 2: I bet their parties are wicked crazy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well they plan to disband on a space station
Speaker 1: in the L five band at some point in the future. Really,
Speaker 1: when they all come together there for the first time.
Speaker 2: Sounds wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh, one more thing, Valerie Polyakov.
Speaker 2: Yeah, record holder right.
Speaker 1: Yep, four hundred and thirty eight days. He did a
Speaker 1: board mirror in nineteen ninety four to nineteen ninety five. Man,
Speaker 1: and he'd done like two hundred and thirty eight days
Speaker 1: before then.
Speaker 2: Crazy. I bet he's super fainty, you know all the time.
Speaker 2: He's Russian, though, he can take it.
Speaker 1: You got anything else?
Speaker 2: I got nothing else?
Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's it for space stations for now.
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Speaker 2: I'm going to call this oh Chuck's graduation post. So
Speaker 2: I put out a post about my nephew graduating high school.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah it did he really?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Noah Is graduated from high school. And also Noah the
Speaker 2: same year, my niece Reagan graduated college from Mayordith College,
Speaker 2: moving to New York City like a good girl.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 2: And my other niece Abby moved on matriculated into high
Speaker 2: school from middle school.
Speaker 1: Nothing better than matriculation.
Speaker 2: Nothing better. So I went to Noah's graduation and it
Speaker 2: really like affected me much more than I thought it
Speaker 2: would because I haven't been to a graduation since my own.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like and I didn't walk in the college one,
Speaker 2: so I literally have not been to a ceremony since
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty nine. And it just stirred up all these
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Speaker 1: Oh, I thought you mad.
Speaker 2: No, it was really really neat just to hear these
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Speaker 2: a seventeen year old for a little while, who's doing
Speaker 2: it right, and we're headed in the right direction like
Speaker 2: this very empathetic, carrying, like forward thinking generation.
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Speaker 2: So it was a really neat things. So I just
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Speaker 2: Oh that's right, and she mentioned you in this speech.
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