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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Ozone podcast presented by by Star Credit

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Speaker 1: with Jaguars senior writer John Osan. All Right, welcome to

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Speaker 1: this week's Ozone podcast presented by by Star and I

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Speaker 1: won't do a long introduction because people want to hear

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Speaker 1: from Jaguars General manager Trent Balky and Trent welcome. First

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Speaker 1: of all, I appreciate you doing this. Thanks for having

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Speaker 1: um the first question right out of the box, we

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Speaker 1: said at the beginning of the off season January, as

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Speaker 1: important and off season as there was for this franchise.

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Speaker 1: Tell me so far your assessment of what you've done

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Speaker 1: and how you feel about this going into the draft. Well,

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Speaker 1: nothing's changed. It's still still extremely important for this franchise.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we we've done. We've done a lot

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Speaker 1: within the partnership that coach and I have have entered into,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's been a great process up to this point,

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Speaker 1: will continue to be. UH. There's been a great collaboration. UH,

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Speaker 1: a lot of excitement around what we're doing and getting

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Speaker 1: to know each other as a staff has been critical.

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Speaker 1: Both the personnel side and the coaching side have worked

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Speaker 1: extremely hard to get ready for next week and we

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Speaker 1: feel we're about there right now. I was the incredibly

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Speaker 1: detailed process that you've spent years building. But the communication

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Speaker 1: between coaching and personnel in this how key is that? Uh?

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Speaker 1: What has that process been like building that? Uh? I

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Speaker 1: guess the communication structure between the two, it's critical. Uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have to be on the same page.

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Speaker 1: You have to know culturally what you're looking for. You

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Speaker 1: have to know schematically what you're looking for. Not every

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Speaker 1: player in this draft is a cultural fit for every team. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Not every player in this draft is a schematic fit

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Speaker 1: for for every team. And that's why everybody's boards look

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Speaker 1: so so much different undraft. Uh. You know. So what

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Speaker 1: you're trying to do is build your board for you

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Speaker 1: and you specifically forget where the noise of where a

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Speaker 1: guy is going to go in the draft, because where

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Speaker 1: they go doesn't doesn't really make a difference. When you

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Speaker 1: figure that fifty or roughly fifty of the first round

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Speaker 1: give you an indication how difficult this is to get

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Speaker 1: it right. So I think, as long as you're looking

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Speaker 1: at guys culturally and uh schematically physically, do they fit

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Speaker 1: what you're looking for? That's your best chance to build

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Speaker 1: execute it properly on on on draft Day, I've asked

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Speaker 1: it seems like a million draft grewies, you know, the

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Speaker 1: grewries trying they're out there. Um well, I'm no Google.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you that I've got I've got plenty of

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Speaker 1: missages to show for it. But I've always asked them,

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Speaker 1: is this a good year for the Jaguars to have

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Speaker 1: five at the top sixty five? And I guess there's

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Speaker 1: never a bad year, But when you look at that,

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Speaker 1: to have that? Yeah, we feel we feel it's there's

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Speaker 1: you know, it's like every other draft. There's there's positions

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Speaker 1: that are top heavy. Uh there's positions that are bottom heavy.

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Speaker 1: There's positions that have guys that all the way throughout

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Speaker 1: are for the value. Uh So, I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: any different than any other drafts that we've been a

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Speaker 1: part of. But yet the positional value has has changed

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Speaker 1: a little bit in some respects. You know, you look

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Speaker 1: aren't as many tight ends as there used to be, uh,

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Speaker 1: at least in this given year. So when you look

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Speaker 1: at each position, UH, we feel good about where we've

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Speaker 1: got players valued. We feel good that within the first

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Speaker 1: It's usually an obligatory question. Would a GM be willing

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Speaker 1: not trading number one overall, but never say never, Never

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Speaker 1: How do you approach that? You gotta let the board speak.

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Speaker 1: You know, you you work for three sixty four days

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Speaker 1: can't plan for it. You can, you can, Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it has to be fluid. Um, what's your draft room like?

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Speaker 1: Meaning there's this perception that it's chaos, people arguing, But

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Speaker 1: does that look like? Yeah, we met today on it

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Speaker 1: it's the opposite of that. There there is no chaos. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Chaos means you weren't prepared and uh, you know, over

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Speaker 1: lead to chaos. We plan to be fully prepared. When

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Speaker 1: Is that? Uh? You? Usually the board is right now,

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Speaker 1: They were all of a sudden something happened, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's we're to the point now where we've watched all

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Speaker 1: major discussions over the next three days relative to the

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Speaker 1: that way. Do you feel different as a decision maker

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, reflecting back, you know, I really

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Speaker 1: And and again, I mean it comes down to comfort.

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Speaker 1: preparing for the draft. I assume tireless worker in that regard,

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Speaker 1: But how has that gone in terms of his input

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Speaker 1: So that's that's been excellent coaches work ethic is is uncertain, unmatched.

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Speaker 1: So again, I think our preparation for this drafts has

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Speaker 1: been as detailed as I can remember being a part of.

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Speaker 1: We're going to continue to dig. We're still making zoom

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Speaker 1: your thought on that? Well? I think value. You know

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Speaker 1: and you you never go wrong by making a position

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Speaker 1: to to sign somebody at a position of weakness or need,

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Speaker 1: stick the best available player? Uh? Any chance you get

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Speaker 1: now when best available and need come together. That's the

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Speaker 1: ideal situation, when best available player in a slightly less Uh.

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Speaker 1: You know I should say when a need orright and

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Speaker 1: there's a there's a guy that's maybe valued slightly higher,

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Speaker 1: always take the best available player and match it with need.

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Speaker 1: If possible, to be remiss, if we didn't ask you

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Speaker 1: one question about the presumed number one overall pick. But

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Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence, your thoughts on him. I know you've studied

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Speaker 1: we say the stars aligned, you know, and I think

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Speaker 1: the it aligns. You know, you feel really good about

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Speaker 1: we can come out of draft Day with ten of

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Speaker 1: Ran Pocky, I appreciate you taking time to do this

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining the Other Zone podcast and we

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