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Speaker 1: What is up everybody? Happy Wednesday to you. It's time

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Speaker 1: for Texans All Access from the Londay Texans Radio Studio.

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Speaker 1: I am your host, John Harris, football analyst and sateline

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Speaker 1: reporter for your Texans and glad to be with you.

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Speaker 1: We have got plenty for you on tonight's show. We

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Speaker 1: got our quarterbacks, Andrea Ware and Clint Stirner are going

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Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Volscot Jeff s Rebeck gonna join us from

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Speaker 1: the Athletic, who has covered the Ravens for as long

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Speaker 1: as I can remember, he's been there for a while.

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Speaker 1: New to the Athletic, but he's been covering to Ravens

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Speaker 1: for a long time. He knows them as well as anybody.

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Speaker 1: So we'll go behind enemy sidelines dpcuited with Jeff's rebec

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Speaker 1: and we'll also have our in the lab crew that

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Speaker 1: would be me and Drew Doherty. We're gonna give you

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Speaker 1: our cream and the crop players not named as Shaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: JJ Water, DeAndre Hopkins through the first nine weeks of

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Speaker 1: the year. That's kind of the caveat, So we got

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Speaker 1: that for you. If you want to hear the end

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Speaker 1: of Lab podcast, then go to where wherever you get

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Speaker 1: your podcasts. I don't I guess iTunes. This kind of

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Speaker 1: Maybe you're the same way, but find a way with

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Speaker 1: however you were getting those podcasts to get the full

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Speaker 1: in the Lab podcast. Please as we get ready for

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Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday, and this one starting to

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Speaker 1: gather a little bit of hype, if you will, So

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Speaker 1: let's get into our hot reads brought to you by

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Speaker 1: guy Go. Fifteen minutes can save you fifteen percent or

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Speaker 1: more on car insurance. And there was a transaction which

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say I was surprised. I'm not

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Speaker 1: surprised by anything that happens, but I will say I

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Speaker 1: gave it that little doghead turn. You're not when dogs

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Speaker 1: see something kind of weird. They kind of turned out

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Speaker 1: the look what's happened? Well the Texas May transaction, they

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Speaker 1: claimed a former first round picked twenty four years old,

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Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves, the third comes to the Houston Texans. He

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Speaker 1: was released by Tampa after Sunday's game. Tampa played Oh

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Speaker 1: My Goodness Arizona and he was Vernon was released after

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Speaker 1: the game. He was put on waivers. Texans put in

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Speaker 1: a claim. Vernon Hargraves is now a member of the

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. Corresponding move is Brion Body. Calhoun was waived

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Speaker 1: to make room for Vernon Hargraves. Now, I talked a

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Speaker 1: afternoon and they asked me about it. It was literally

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Speaker 1: so I'm kind of going back in my mentor Rolladecks,

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Speaker 1: how did I feel about Vernon? Because I'll be honest

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Speaker 1: not watch a ton Tampa Bay Buccanteers football. So I

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Speaker 1: and a lot of people know, is that the Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay Bucceteers changed coaches. And no matter what, when you

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Speaker 1: have a staff change, a coaching change, the verbiage is different,

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Speaker 1: the demeanor is different, everything's different. Some guys react differently

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Speaker 1: to it. Some guys respond positively. Some guys don't. Some guys,

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Speaker 1: Vernon Hargraves in all honesty, but Vernon's a former first

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Speaker 1: round pick. He was drafted number eleven, I believe overall

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Speaker 1: I learned me toughs with number one. I had Verned

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Speaker 1: Hargraves number nine. He's a coaches kid, which always resonates

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Speaker 1: Now contractually, he's got another year beyond this, so he's

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Speaker 1: end of the year. So you got seven games left,

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Speaker 1: the injury report. A couple of keynotes on the injury

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Speaker 1: There were no DMPs on the Texans side, limited participants

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Speaker 1: Let's start with Bill Brian, who was asked today, what

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Speaker 1: You know when you look at Wink Martindale's defense, you

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Speaker 1: not Mark Vandermere, And for the second straight week, I

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Speaker 1: at it, it looked that way, and they played that way.

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Speaker 1: And then you're playing that way or having that kind

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Speaker 1: of attitude going into the game without the starting quarterback,

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Speaker 1: so that that made it tough. And credit the Dolphins

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Speaker 1: they got to win number two this year. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if they're they're blowing it for Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: or two whoever, but I know they got enough picks

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Speaker 1: to do some damage. There's no question about that. Drey.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you about something that when I

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Speaker 1: first saw it. In fact, I heard about it before

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Speaker 1: I saw it, because I talked to our good friend

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Speaker 1: Patti Smith about it and she told us about it,

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Speaker 1: and I was like, this is one of the coolest

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Speaker 1: things that I've seen. You, Vinch, Young, Warren Moon, and

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Speaker 1: de Sean have all teamed up to provide a scholarship

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Speaker 1: called Brothers in Arms. I'll let you take it from there.

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Speaker 1: How did this all come to be? And what does

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Speaker 1: it mean you to be a part of something like this.

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Speaker 1: It means a world of me because you know, you

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Speaker 1: look in from a standpoint of all of us have

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Speaker 1: one common denominator and that was being being raised by

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Speaker 1: a single mother. And so you know right there that

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Speaker 1: kind of starts and kind of connects us in a

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Speaker 1: way that you know, not a lot of it. There

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Speaker 1: are a lot of people that that are being raised

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Speaker 1: that way, not just by single mothers, but a single

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Speaker 1: parent household. So from our standpoint, it's it's magical. Then

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Speaker 1: the group of guys having, you know, a Houston connection

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Speaker 1: that connects us as well, either we're from this area,

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Speaker 1: played in the city, or however, we know the common

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Speaker 1: bondment that that it takes to be a player in

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Speaker 1: the city, the city of Houston, And so when you

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Speaker 1: bring the four of us together, it's it kind of

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Speaker 1: sends a powerful message. It's an attention getter that that

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Speaker 1: people want to be involved with. We want to give

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Speaker 1: back to make sure that we're doing our part. And

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Speaker 1: what better way for four guys to come together that

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Speaker 1: have played in this city and it means this city

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Speaker 1: means the world to us, has given us all so

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Speaker 1: much that it's it's our chance and our our opportunity

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Speaker 1: to give back. And that's exactly what what we're gonna do?

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Speaker 1: This is really cool. You want more information? Applications are

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Speaker 1: now available online at Brothers in Arms Houston dot com

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Speaker 1: Brothers in Arms Houston dot com. And I was reading

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Speaker 1: part of that off a tweet, Dre, and I see

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Speaker 1: the Vince's got a Twitter handle, and Deshawn's got a

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Speaker 1: Twitter handle, and Warren's got a Twitter handle, but there's

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Speaker 1: not a fourth Twitter handle, which would have been yours.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, does that mean you're getting a Twitter

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Speaker 1: handle or are you still abstaining? I don't know. I

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Speaker 1: think I might still have stained. You know, I'm on

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Speaker 1: my personality. I might fire off some things that I

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Speaker 1: would regret the minute I pressed in. And you know

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Speaker 1: herm Edwins told me, you know, a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Put it out there, Hey, just don't press in. You

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Speaker 1: can't press in if you don't have a Twitter hand it.

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Speaker 1: So I'm safe by not having one, so to speak,

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Speaker 1: So I let those other guys do the Twitter thing.

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Speaker 1: I'm just I guess I'm a little ol fashioned in

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Speaker 1: that way. You know what, your whole hell hell a

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Speaker 1: lot smarter than a lot of us. Because I've hit

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Speaker 1: send one too many times. I know that for a fact,

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Speaker 1: Andre Ware, you will hear him obviously Sunday. You will

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Speaker 1: see him Saturday, Dre, you're gonna be in Philadelphia for

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Speaker 1: that one. Huh Yes? And during Temple and in two lane,

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Speaker 1: two really good American teams that are both six and

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Speaker 1: three with two good head coaches, and both are playing

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Speaker 1: some good football right now. So I expect a very

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Speaker 1: good football team game, evenly matched teams, and the weather

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Speaker 1: will be a little chilly up there. Then I'm trying

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Speaker 1: to decide, Johnny, I'm gonna take a train, which I

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Speaker 1: love to take trains, I'm gonna fly or just drive

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Speaker 1: over the filling to Baltimore after that game's over. So

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Speaker 1: have yet to make that decision. Well, you know how

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Speaker 1: I am on a plane. I do not like playing,

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Speaker 1: so mine would be easy. Mine would be the train, U.

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Speaker 1: That would be easy. Towards the train right now, that

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Speaker 1: would be That'd be the way to go. But I

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Speaker 1: think the bigger question is you're in Philly, are you

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Speaker 1: going ROAs pork or you're gonna go cheese steak. I'm

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Speaker 1: going cheese steak. And you know, maybe there long enough

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Speaker 1: where I might make my weight right right back around

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Speaker 1: to try the other rolls. Yeah, it might be a

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Speaker 1: double dip before I get out of there. I'm so envious.

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Speaker 1: I am so envious of you, Dre. That's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fun trip. We will hear Dre on Sunday with

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Speaker 1: the Texans take on the Baltimore. Dre. You're the best man.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate it also, man, Hey, yeah, I'm eating both rose

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Speaker 1: Park and chee Steak. If I gotta do it one setting,

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Speaker 1: I will do it. I got a problems throwing a

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Speaker 1: pretzel in there. We're good to go. There you go.

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Speaker 1: Let's keep our quarterback theme going with our good friend

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Speaker 1: Clint Sterner gonna join me. Next, we'll talk a little

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Speaker 1: bit about Lamark Jackson, a little bit about Deshaun Watson,

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Speaker 1: and we'rena talk a little bit about the Arkansas razorback

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Speaker 1: head football coaching position that is open at Clint's alma mater.

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Speaker 1: Do all that next right here in Texans All Access.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to a Wednesday edition to Texans All Access

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Speaker 1: from the Hunday Texans Radio studio. I'm your host, John Harris,

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Speaker 1: and please to be joined by our regular guest, but

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Speaker 1: he still needs the proper introduction. You hear him two

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Speaker 1: to six on our flagship sports Radio six ten. You

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Speaker 1: do not want to miss stern talk. It is absolutely

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Speaker 1: fantastic and he is doing a one man show again

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Speaker 1: and he'll give me the details on that, but he

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Speaker 1: is a proud Arkansas razorback and he joins us right now.

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Speaker 1: Clint Sterner, how you doing my man, man, I'm doing good.

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00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 1: I cannot complain man like like I always tell you, manage,

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00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: it's the mood and the emotions they have and flow

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Speaker 1: with where the Texans are. And right now, man, they're

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Speaker 1: a top ten team in the league, and they're got

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Speaker 1: a big matchup this week and they're they're playing good football.

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Speaker 1: So all is good, man, Life is well at the moment. Clinton.

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Speaker 1: I heard Seth say this today, And I know Seth

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00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: played for the Texans. He's been doing Houston Radio a

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Speaker 1: little bit longer than you and I actually both, and

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Speaker 1: I heard him say this is as excited as he's

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Speaker 1: gotten for a regular season game for the Texans dating

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Speaker 1: back to and he couldn't even think of one. And

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Speaker 1: he said, dating back to when he played, do you

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Speaker 1: have kind of had same feeling with this game against

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Speaker 1: Baltimore seventy two Baltimore six and three Texans, Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 1: the Shawn Watson, these two AFC teams. Do you get

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Speaker 1: kind of that same feeling, Maybe not to that level,

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Speaker 1: but do you have kind of the same feeling that

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Speaker 1: you're getting from listens and callers that people are this

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Speaker 1: excited about this game coming up with Baltimore. Absolutely, there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt about it. I mean, I tab this next

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Speaker 1: three game stretches as the most important of Bill O'Brien's

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Speaker 1: jenures Texans head coach, and obviously the Baltimore Ravens are

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Speaker 1: the first of that three. And look, man, I mean

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Speaker 1: I've looked at the power rankings. I mean, Baltimore is

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Speaker 1: anywhere from one to three, depending on what rankings rankings

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Speaker 1: you look at it. So this is a huge game, man,

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a big game that I believe

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Speaker 1: will validate whether the Texans are a true Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: contender at this point in time. They've worked their way

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Speaker 1: into the playoff conversation, They've worked their way into the

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Speaker 1: consistently dangerous opponent conversation that could beat anybody on any

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Speaker 1: given day. And that's legitimate. It's not just because Deshaun

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Speaker 1: Watson is a big player, and Hopkins is the best

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Speaker 1: receiver in the league. It's legitimate week in, week out

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Speaker 1: performance product on the field. People are starting to believe in.

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Speaker 1: And I think this is the one week where you

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Speaker 1: can you can take it to the bank that if

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Speaker 1: you've beat Baltimore, you've established yourself and put in and

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Speaker 1: really pulled yourself into the top five teams in the

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Speaker 1: league right now. And uh so, yeah, definitely big week.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think I think it's the game I

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Speaker 1: found myself earlier today, John thinking, is this a game

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Speaker 1: that m Deshaun Watson celebrates immediately as the time runs

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Speaker 1: off the clock if they win, instead of just casually,

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Speaker 1: you know, with all the swag walk into the locker room.

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Speaker 1: Is this a game that we get a little emotion

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Speaker 1: out of Phill O'Brien if they win. That's how big

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Speaker 1: this game is. Is I think the celebration although it

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Speaker 1: may be short, short lived because you got a game

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Speaker 1: next week early next week, But but it's a game

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Speaker 1: that I think that just means more. Man, I don't

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Speaker 1: that's a that's a that's a I guess the term

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00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: it's used way too often, but it just means more

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Speaker 1: because of all all the things that are at stake

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Speaker 1: along with where the Texans are right now as far

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Speaker 1: as needing to take that next step up into the

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Speaker 1: elite of the elitist Clint facing this Baltimore team, it's different.

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Speaker 1: I mean, defensively you see some some different things, but

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Speaker 1: you see defenses that run uh you know, different blitzell

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Speaker 1: owns and different coverage packages and different things. And win

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Speaker 1: Martindale will bring the heat, there's no question about that.

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Speaker 1: And it's a unique bunch, but I don't know that

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Speaker 1: it's the most talented group of defenders the Texans will

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Speaker 1: face this. You're maybe the secondary, but up front you're

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Speaker 1: looking go, okay, it's good. But offensively, it's not an

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Speaker 1: offense that you see every single week. In fact, you're

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Speaker 1: hard pressed to see much of what the Ravens do

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Speaker 1: anywhere throughout the league. You definitely aren't going to see

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Speaker 1: it the rest of the way with the Texans schedule.

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Speaker 1: But they're running mid line option, they're running down the

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Speaker 1: line option, they're run speed option, They're running all kinds

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Speaker 1: of different options. They've got different run scheme aspects built

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Speaker 1: in as well. When you face a team like that

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Speaker 1: that has so many different kind of wrinkles that you're

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Speaker 1: not used to seeing what ends up being the absolute

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Speaker 1: number one key to slowing that offense down. One of

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Speaker 1: the top two offenses in the league in the Baltimore

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Speaker 1: Ravens with how unique that offense is led by Lamar Jackson. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, look, they're doing a lot of things, but

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Speaker 1: they're doing a lot of old school things. I mean,

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Speaker 1: so if it's not you don't have to go draw

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Speaker 1: in the dirt and figure out a way to stop

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Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, when I watched the film, they

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Speaker 1: use a lot of boot action with Lamar Jackson, and

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Speaker 1: not only to throw it, but to get him on

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Speaker 1: the edge and run. They do a lot of the

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Speaker 1: option stuff and and and then they also take some

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Speaker 1: shots down the field. They use their tight ends well.

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Speaker 1: But but this is a game where like if you

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Speaker 1: go back and watch the Cincinnati game, the first play

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Speaker 1: of the game, Hollywood Brown, they got the Cincinnati's got

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Speaker 1: a deep safety in fifteen sixteen, eighteen yards off the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and somehow Holly Hollywood Brown gets over

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Speaker 1: the top of him for a deep post. You're deep

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Speaker 1: for a reason. You're deeper than the deepest it's back

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Speaker 1: to the basics. If you're a free safety, if you're

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Speaker 1: a half safety, you're deeper than the deepest. Get your

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Speaker 1: nose out of the out of the backfield, and do

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Speaker 1: your job. And then you know, you watch a couple

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Speaker 1: more plays and you watch a defensive end or an

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Speaker 1: outside linebacker that has contained you watch him get baited

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Speaker 1: into coming inside, and you watch the tight end just

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Speaker 1: float outside of him, penn him inside so that Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson can get outside out why and in open space

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Speaker 1: and either make a big throw or run the ball.

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Speaker 1: And so to me when I watched the film, if upfront,

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Speaker 1: if your rushers, pass rushers, your run stoppers, if they

641
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Speaker 1: if they just have discipline, and if you're the contained,

642
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,960
Speaker 1: be the contained. If you're the contained force, Lamar Jackson

643
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: back inside where you have help, right, you can't afford

644
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: the gamble. If you're a deep stafety, you stay deep

645
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:24,120
Speaker 1: and you don't let anybody get behind you. And that's

646
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 1: a very elementary way to look at this thing. But

647
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 1: this isn't an offense that's gonna trick you. I mean,

648
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Speaker 1: they're they're not They're not gonna trick you. They're gonna

649
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: run old school schemes, bootlegs, necks options, some of the

650
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 1: zone read stuff, some of the quarterback run stuff that

651
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 1: you see in today's football, and it's not rocket time.

652
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 1: They do it very very well. And they've got one

653
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Speaker 1: dynamic athlete that if you think, if you flinch, he

654
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: will take it to the house. And so it's more

655
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: important this week if, if, if everybody just does their job,

656
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,480
Speaker 1: the guy's gonna make plays. What you can't do is

657
00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: consistently make mistakes and allow them to make you plays,

658
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: make momentum swinging plays, make plays at in scenarios and

659
00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 1: situations where the game's on the line. And so it's

660
00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: more important this week than it's ever been that that

661
00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:15,240
Speaker 1: they just play old school assignments football and quote unquote

662
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: do their job. You listen to Texas All Access. I'm

663
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,320
Speaker 1: John Harris talking about our good friend Clint Sterner Clinton.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about Lamar just as a passer,

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00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,400
Speaker 1: just a passer. I've seen him do a couple of

666
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: things the last few weeks, changing arm slots and throwing

667
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: the ball from different angles, which I can't remember having

668
00:34:33,400 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: ever seen him do, but it just kind of speaks

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Speaker 1: his playmaking ability. But just as a as a passer.

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Speaker 1: If you force him to have to be a passer,

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00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: not a thrower, but a passer, and not a playmaker,

672
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,400
Speaker 1: but a passer. What are you looking at? What have

673
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: you seen with Lamar the thrower, the excuse the passer

674
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: this year? And how dangerous can that be if he

675
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: is forced to stay in the well and have to

676
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: beat you from there? Well, I mean, if if that's

677
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: what you want to do, is you want to keep

678
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: him in the pocket and force him to beat you

679
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: from there, you want to you want to keep him

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00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: in the pocket and force him to get through progressions.

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00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,000
Speaker 1: I mean, the reason that Deshaun Watson, I mean that

682
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,080
Speaker 1: de Shaun Watson. The reason that Lamar and Jackson is

683
00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: so it's so dangerous is because when he's outside the pocket,

684
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 1: he's just a freak of nature. And whether it's arm

685
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: slight change it, or it's running the ball, or it's

686
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 1: throwing it over the top or thrown it across your body,

687
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,280
Speaker 1: he's just a freak of nature. So so you start

688
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: with trying to keep him bottle up, and when you

689
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,759
Speaker 1: do bottle him up, you've got to take away his

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00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 1: first read. I mean, every when I want again, I

691
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: go back to that Cincinnati game. When I watch that

692
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Speaker 1: Cincinnati game, I mean he I don't remember it was

693
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Speaker 1: exactly his number thirteen and fifteen or fifteen and seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and it was up in the ninety percent completion um.

695
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,320
Speaker 1: But but every time he throws, it's his first option

696
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 1: is first, his first number one receiver in that read

697
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 1: is who he's throwing to. And you can see it

698
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:54,399
Speaker 1: before the ball is ever snapped that that that that

699
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,240
Speaker 1: play is there, and so you've got it. The reason

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00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,000
Speaker 1: they're so good is because they run it so well.

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00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: They force you to that you're waces where their number

702
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 1: one read is always there. And so what you gotta

703
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: do is you gotta hope you can stop him up

704
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,879
Speaker 1: front with the with the front seven or front six

705
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,399
Speaker 1: or front eighth. That then I know how many guys

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00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: they got in the box. You gotta if you can

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00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: stop them with them, and then you can play multiple

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00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: coverages behind and make make Lamar and Jackson get through progressions,

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00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: then you as a defense have the advantage. But if

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00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 1: if you let him stay in rhythm run the game,

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00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: if you let him break containment, if you let his

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Speaker 1: number one read in the past game be there, then

713
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Speaker 1: then it's gonna be a long day versus Baltimore for sure.

714
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Speaker 1: On the flip side, Clint Sean Watson and the Texans

715
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Speaker 1: offense coming off a bye week, and I'm glad Bill

716
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: O'Brien did this. I was talking with him and on

717
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: his Coaches show, and I asked him about Baltimore offense.

718
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: I was talking about how unique it is, and he said, Hey, Johnny,

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00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 1: we have a pretty unique offense too. Now it's coming

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Speaker 1: off a bye week, and I know in some sense, Clint,

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00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: you have to fight doing too much to come out

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00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:58,799
Speaker 1: of the bye week. That's new, But you do want

723
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: to throw a couple of new wrinkles at a defense

724
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 1: just to make sure that it's you know, mining its

725
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: peas and ques against you. But I know what the

726
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 1: Texans have done through nine weeks has has worked, especially

727
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 1: the last four or five weeks. What do you expect

728
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Speaker 1: coming out of the bye week for this offense and

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00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 1: what do you expect from Deshaun Watson this week and

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00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: from Bill Bryant Well, I think the bye week is

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00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: used for the defense to put the wrinkles in versus

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00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and figure out the unorthodox approach that they

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00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:27,320
Speaker 1: have but offensively. You know, I think the next step,

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Speaker 1: right is a next step in command for Deshaun Watson.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you've seen a what I think is an

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Speaker 1: unbelievable trans transition of this entire offense into using their

737
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 1: personnel in unique ways and in creative ways, and then

738
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: also doing things, um doing things with the Shaun Watson

739
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: that Deshaun Watson has been doing since high school. And

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00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 1: so you've seen them become really really inclusiive and third

741
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 1: downs and and much better and creative in the red zone.

742
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,400
Speaker 1: And and now now it's about can they can Deshaun Watson?

743
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Speaker 1: And I think with two weeks to prepare, can Deshaun

744
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: Watson look out and go, hey, we've got Will Fuller

745
00:38:09,000 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: on their second or third corner because they're so worried

746
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 1: about the RPO game, or they're so worried about DeAndre

747
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 1: Hopkins and where he's at, so Earl Thomas is creeping

748
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Speaker 1: over the top of him. I want to take a

749
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 1: shot with Fuller, with this duck over here, this second

750
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Speaker 1: or third corner cover corner, and I want to take

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00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: this deep shot real quick, and Deshaun has the ability

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Speaker 1: to adjust and take that shot. You know that. To me,

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00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 1: that's how do they get back into Because they went

754
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 1: from an extreme hold the football, long, long, drawn out

755
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 1: developing plays and Deshaun getting hit in the offensive line struggling,

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00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:46,080
Speaker 1: they did a one eighty and came back to where

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00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,960
Speaker 1: the creative quick stuff's working, the RPO stuff is working.

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00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,520
Speaker 1: I mean, Hopkins is getting eight or nine catches for

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00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: sixty something yards, you know that kind of thing. How

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00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: can they incorporate the shots back into this offense? And

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00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 1: when they do, it's gonna be nasty. And so to me,

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00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: those two weeks maybe allows them a chance to uncover

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00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 1: a couple of players, a couple of situations where hey, Deshaun,

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00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: we anticipate getting this look when we crossed the forty

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00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,040
Speaker 1: yard line going in, so be aware for this guy

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Speaker 1: covering four or this guy covering steals or this coverage

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00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 1: to Hopkins, and let's adjust and take that shot his Deshaun.

768
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: Watchon's ability to adjust from what they're doing right now.

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00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 1: They've got a great identity. What is your want off?

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00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: What's your CounterPunch? How do you adjust and take shot

771
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: and stay aggressive? That's going to be the key, and

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00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: I think two weeks to prepare may give them an

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00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 1: opportunity to do that. Clint, you obviously Arkansas Razors Back

774
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: to the core. You are from Texas, so you obviously

775
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: have that burning in you as well. But Arksas Razorbacks

776
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 1: make a move. Chad Morris removed from the head coaching

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00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 1: position there in Arkansas. And you know, the listeners know

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Speaker 1: how much I love college football and I love this

779
00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 1: time of year. I hate it and I love it.

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Speaker 1: I hate it because I've been a coaches kid. I've

781
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,880
Speaker 1: seen how it affects coaching families. But I love it

782
00:40:04,920 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 1: because all the different movements, it's like a it's like

783
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: chess pieces and I love watching that. But it's your

784
00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: alma mater. The positions open, you have your druthers. What

785
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: do you want to see? Maybe not who you want

786
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: to see, but what is it that you want to

787
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Speaker 1: see in a head coach that takes over at your

788
00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 1: alma mater. Wow? Well, I mean there's so many there's

789
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: so many answers that question when you're talking about Arkansas,

790
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 1: because you're talking about a state that that I mean,

791
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: they put out maybe six to eight D one athletes

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Speaker 1: a year, and so I mean, you gotta It starts

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Speaker 1: with recruiting. It's got to be a guy that can

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00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 1: come into Texas and recruit. It's got to be a

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Speaker 1: guy that can go into Memphis and Tulsa, in Kansas

796
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Speaker 1: City and Saint Louis and recruit his till off. It

797
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 1: all starts to start with recruiting. I think secondly, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think offensively, you've got to be exotic.

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Speaker 1: I think you've got to be a guy that whether

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Speaker 1: it's an air raid or a powers read, it can't

801
00:41:01,120 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: be pro style. Uh, it can't be just a style

802
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: that's gonna have players to come in and be more

803
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: physical and be a better um you know, be bigger, faster, stronger,

804
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:14,440
Speaker 1: because you're gonna have a hard time consistently getting winning

805
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: that edge over Alabama and Auburn and and uh Georgia

806
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,560
Speaker 1: and and and A and m and you're just gonna

807
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Speaker 1: have a hard time always being the winner on paper.

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00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 1: So you've got to creatively, strategically, UM, find an advantage.

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00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: Petrino was great at Arkansas with that. All your air

810
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:34,840
Speaker 1: raid guys are great with creating that advantage with the scheme,

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Speaker 1: and so it has to be a guy like that. Offensively,

812
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 1: and I think defensively, the same approach as the offense.

813
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 1: I think you've got to be You've gotta be excited.

814
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 1: You can't just line up and play a four or

815
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: three and a and a ben. Don't break mentality because

816
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: you're gonna break more than you ben because you just

817
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: don't have the same Kimmy's and Joe's and so it's

818
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's got to be the

819
00:41:54,280 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 1: perfect storm. A couple of names that have been thrown

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00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: out there right now, Man, I think Mike Leach is

821
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 1: a guy thats to coach nationally. People are gonna be

822
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 1: talking about. He's coached in the SEC before. He demands

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00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: respect when he walks in the room because of his

824
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,160
Speaker 1: reputation and and and what he's done in college football,

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00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: how he's developed players, the offenses that he's put on

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Speaker 1: the field, and he's resurrected a couple of programs. So, um,

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Speaker 1: you're you're talking about a guy like Mike Leach nationally

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00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: will be discussed. I think a guy's come outside looking

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Speaker 1: in as a guy like Sam Pittman. He was the

830
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Speaker 1: offensive line coach there with Beelhamu. At one point, he's

831
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Speaker 1: the best offensive line coach in college football. You know

832
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: that and uh offensive line being able to recruit the

833
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: offensive line that he's important at Arkansas. And so maybe

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Speaker 1: an outside the box guy, a long shot guy, would

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Speaker 1: be Sam Pittman. That's an excellent I love that. I

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Speaker 1: would love Mike Leach in Arkansas would be fascinating. Clint

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Speaker 1: in ten seconds or less, Gus Malson, I know he's

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00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,719
Speaker 1: got a job. Gus Malson, yes or no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no, they' the ain't gonna happen at Arkansas. He's

840
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: already been down that road. Maybe that he's not gonna

841
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: happen there. It is, Clint, you the absolutely best, my friend.

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Speaker 1: They thank you very much. Tuck next week. All right, brother,

843
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,320
Speaker 1: take care man. That's my dude, Clint Sterner getting it done.

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Speaker 1: No Togus Melson. I'm not surprised. They seemingly have flirted

845
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: often before, but never consummated the relationship, if you will.

846
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: Well as head coach. He's been there as assistant coach.

847
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 1: But now you get what I'm saying. And he's alrea

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00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 1: got a job. He's at Auburn. But that one's always tenuous,

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Speaker 1: always tenuous. All rightlets come back to this. Baltimore Ravens

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Speaker 1: v Houston Texans matchup on Sunday, and we'll do with

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Speaker 1: our men behind the mics. Mark Vannimir sat down earlier

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Speaker 1: today with the voice of the Ravens, Jerry Sandusky, right

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Speaker 1: here on Texans All Access. Welcome to our second hour

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Speaker 1: of Texans All Access on this wonderful Wednesday evening from

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Speaker 1: another Texans radio studio. I am your host, as I

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Speaker 1: am each and every Monday, Wednesday, Friday, amongst other things.

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Speaker 1: John Harris football else that side on a reporter. It's

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Speaker 1: time for this week's stats Challenge, brought to you by Slumberge.

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Speaker 1: Visit Houston Texans dot com to day registered to take

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Speaker 1: the ATS challenge. This one courtesy of NFL Research. And

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Speaker 1: we're gonna throw Lamar Jackson here too, because that's actually

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Speaker 1: how the tweet was given. Shaun Watson and Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: are the first quarterbacks in NFL history with fifteen plus

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Speaker 1: touchdown passes five plus rushing touchdowns in a hundred plus

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Speaker 1: passer rating over their team's first nine games of a season.

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Speaker 1: Got all that. Sean and Lamar are the first quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in NFL history with fifteen plus passing touchdowns five plus

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Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns and a hundred plus passer rating over their

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Speaker 1: team's first nine games of a season. Sean has eighteen

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Speaker 1: passing touchdowns, five rushing touchdowns in one hundred seven point

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Speaker 1: one rating. Lamar has fifteen passing touchdowns, six rushing touchdowns

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Speaker 1: one hundred one point seven passer rating. And obviously those

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Speaker 1: two will match wits, not against each other, which I

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00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: always find fascinating. Lamar versus DeShawn. No, it's DeShawn versus

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Speaker 1: the defense. It's Lamar Jackson versus lunch Pale crew in

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Speaker 1: that defense. I mean, they don't face each other, but

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Speaker 1: obviously you make it qbv QB. So there, that's pretty

878
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:25,040
Speaker 1: impressive stuff right there. Fifteen plus touchdowns, five rush tds

879
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: and one hundred passer rating over the team's first nine games.

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Speaker 1: Shaw Watson, Lamar Jackson of the answer to that tribute question.

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Speaker 1: That is your Schlumberge stats challenge. All right, to get

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Speaker 1: back to it with our men behind the Mike's segment,

883
00:45:41,320 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Mark Vanna Mary each and every week catches up with

884
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Speaker 1: the play by play voice on the other side, and

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Speaker 1: this week it is Jerry Sandusky, longtime voice of the

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00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:55,239
Speaker 1: Baltimore Ravens. Mark here you are doing very well. Did

887
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 1: you expect this kind of success at this point of

888
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:01,120
Speaker 1: the year having beaten the Patriot It's where the Ravens

889
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,840
Speaker 1: are right now, you know. Market. It wasn't until the

890
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:07,320
Speaker 1: Ravens went out west and played Seattle that I really

891
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: knew who they were, you know, because if you look

892
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,080
Speaker 1: the front end of them the schedule. Yeah, they beat

893
00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: Miami in Arizona, then they lose to Kansas City, and

894
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: they loose to the Browns. When they loose to the Browns,

895
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, are the Browns really the team

896
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:21,800
Speaker 1: we thought they were going to be? Are they flash

897
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,680
Speaker 1: with the story? So Pittsburgh and week five the Ravens

898
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: went there, but Pittsburgh was struggling out of the gate,

899
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 1: so it's really And then you beat the Bengals a

900
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: week six and nobody's expending about beating the Bengals, So

901
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: you played six weeks and you really don't have a

902
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: read on who the Ravens are. And then they go

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Speaker 1: out and they beat Seattle in Seattle, and at that

904
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Speaker 1: point nothing surprised me anymore because Seattle is an extremely

905
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Speaker 1: good team. They're hard to beat in Seattle, and you

906
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 1: don't do that by Fluke, and that's when I thought, Yep,

907
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Speaker 1: this is a good team. How surprised though. All right,

908
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 1: so you say you weren't surprised about beating the Patriots necessarily,

909
00:46:56,719 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: but what about the way that game played out, the

910
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: quick start, all that was involved that afternoon. Anytime you

911
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: got up seventeen points of the Patriots, I think you're surprised.

912
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: I think you're you're pleasantly surprised. And then sure enough

913
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: a fumble punt, they're right back in the game. And

914
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,239
Speaker 1: you know, look at the Patriots. But the fact that

915
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:17,720
Speaker 1: the Patriots had as much difficulty playing the read option

916
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: and the RPO and the athleticism of Lamar Jackson, you know,

917
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: I think they would run into the same level of

918
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:26,360
Speaker 1: difficulty with DeShawn Watson and all the things that that

919
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,440
Speaker 1: your offense can do. It's it's a new era of

920
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL, and I think we may have

921
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:36,120
Speaker 1: seen the new era lapping the old era. I don't

922
00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: think the Patriots are done, but I think you know,

923
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,359
Speaker 1: they're They're on the back side of the mountain for sure.

924
00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 1: And young new school quarterbacks like DeShawn Watson, like Lamar Jackson,

925
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Speaker 1: like pat mahomes are taken over this league. Jerry Sandusky,

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Speaker 1: voice of the Ravens, joining us on Texans Radio. All right,

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Speaker 1: I imagine you get asked this a lot. Lamar Jackson,

928
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 1: it seems like no one can get a good lick

929
00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,160
Speaker 1: on him, no one can really hit him, and here

930
00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: he is running wild. How concerned are the Ravens about

931
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 1: him taking that kill shot if you will? Deshaun Watson

932
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 1: has taken some big hits throughout his career, especially last year.

933
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Speaker 1: This year doesn't seem to be the case. He's running

934
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Speaker 1: more carefully. What about Jackson's run game? I think everybody

935
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Speaker 1: always worries about their quarterback if he's mobile or if

936
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Speaker 1: he's immobile. I don't think the Indianapolis Colts ever had

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00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,680
Speaker 1: a night where they didn't have some sleeplessness because they

938
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Speaker 1: were worried about Peyton Manning in the pocket. What if

939
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Speaker 1: somebody hits him? What if somebody hits Tom Brady. Lamar

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00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: Jackson's philosophy is simple, he said, as many quarterbacks get

941
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,360
Speaker 1: hurt in the pocket is outside of the pocket football

942
00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: people are going to get hurt. But Lamar does have

943
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: a high level of elusiveness, and in his second year.

944
00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:50,120
Speaker 1: He's much better about understanding that in this league, you

945
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 1: don't always have to make the play every place. Sometimes

946
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: you just have to step out of bound and avoid

947
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 1: the hit. Sometimes you have to slide two yard shove

948
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 1: where you think you want to go, you can't and

949
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,799
Speaker 1: every play and he's becoming much more discerning understanding which

950
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,839
Speaker 1: place to try to make that extra move in yard

951
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,360
Speaker 1: and which play is just a call to play. Jerry,

952
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,760
Speaker 1: what about what mark Ingram is bringing to the table?

953
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: Tell us about his season? Now. That surprises me. When

954
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Speaker 1: the Ravens signed Ingram in the offseason, I thought, you know,

955
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:22,160
Speaker 1: nine year veteran probably has had his best years have

956
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: Gus Edwards, he did a great job last year, and

957
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:26,839
Speaker 1: how big of a deal could this be. It's been

958
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,279
Speaker 1: a huge deal. He's brought leadership to the offense. He

959
00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,960
Speaker 1: is a tough, physical guy, but he has a lot

960
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,960
Speaker 1: of explosiveness left. He's really helped to mentor Lamar Jackson

961
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 1: in the huddle. And the fact that a veteran, a

962
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Speaker 1: guy who's won a Super Bowl, a guy who spent

963
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: eight years with Drew Brees, came into this locker room

964
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 1: and this huddle and kind of immediately said, Hey, this

965
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 1: quarterback is the real deal. This offense is for real.

966
00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 1: That got that really helped everybody buy into it. It

967
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:00,040
Speaker 1: really helped Lamar Jackson, you know, established himself as the

968
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: leader of the offense because Ingram came in and gave

969
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,839
Speaker 1: him his impromater right out of the gate, and those

970
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: intangibles as well as what he's you know, he's averaging

971
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 1: five yards of Carri's got eight touchdowns. The marriage of

972
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: those intangibles with those tangibles that completely surprised me. I

973
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 1: did not see it coming to that degree. Did you

974
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,839
Speaker 1: see this kind of production coming from Mark Andrews when

975
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,839
Speaker 1: he was acquired by the Ravens. Okay, this will prove

976
00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 1: to you that I am not qualified to be an

977
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:31,760
Speaker 1: NFL scout. I vividly remember the OTAs of the rookie

978
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: OTAs when they have Hayden Hurst come in and Mark

979
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 1: Andrews and you see Hayden Hurst and he looks really

980
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 1: athletic and good first round pick makes sense. And then

981
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:42,400
Speaker 1: I'm watching Mark Andrews and this is before they get

982
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 1: pads on, and I turned to one of the top

983
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: scouts and I said, hey, no offense, but what did

984
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:49,879
Speaker 1: you guys see in him. He looked stiff. He didn't

985
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:52,399
Speaker 1: run fluid. He he just didn't look like why would

986
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: you spend a third round pick on him? And the

987
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: scout looked him and he said, don't worry about it.

988
00:50:56,680 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: He's never gonna impress anybody in OTAs. When they put

989
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,399
Speaker 1: on path, you're gonna see he has an uncanny knack

990
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 1: for always finding the open space in the field. Whether

991
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: that's the design of the play or it's his nonverbal

992
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: relationship with the quarterback. It's gonna blow your mind. And

993
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,160
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, okay, whatever. It sounds like a scout's

994
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 1: trying to save his own butt. And sure enough, once

995
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: the game start, it's exactly what we saw with Mark Andrews. Mark,

996
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: you know this as well as anybody. There are some

997
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: guys who are combine wonder stars. They just, oh my god.

998
00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: You see him in the combine and you think they

999
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,799
Speaker 1: could win the Decatholic, they'd be gold medalists. And then

1000
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 1: you put on pads and they're they're kind of ordinary.

1001
00:51:34,360 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 1: And then they're guys like Mark Mark Andrews, who are

1002
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,160
Speaker 1: the exact opposite. They don't wow you out of pads,

1003
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 1: but they put on pads and all of a sudden

1004
00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,880
Speaker 1: you realize he's a football player. And that's the story

1005
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: with Mark Andrews. From the moment he put on pads,

1006
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: he has owned that position. I think the Texans might

1007
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:51,839
Speaker 1: feel the same way about Darren Fells, but he's been

1008
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: in the league for a while, so that's kind of

1009
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: interesting with his situation. Jerry sad Dusky, voice of the Ravens,

1010
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 1: joining us, give me a couple of guys who aren't

1011
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: getting the ink, aren't getting the pub. But we should

1012
00:52:01,600 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: know about here in Houston as the Texans take on Baltimore. Well,

1013
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: you know all about Mark Keith Brown, and you know

1014
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: all about Mark Andrews. A guy who I would say

1015
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: is flying still way below the radar is Miles Boykin,

1016
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: rookie third round pick out of Notre Dame as nine catches,

1017
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: as a couple of touchdowns, and he is one day

1018
00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: away from breaking out. He's a big kid, six four

1019
00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:26,320
Speaker 1: two twenty, has great hands. There's so many, you know,

1020
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: stars in this offense. Right now, he's being overlooked. But

1021
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,080
Speaker 1: as coordinators start to take away more guys, I think

1022
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 1: you're gonna see Miles Boykin really flash and really step

1023
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: up and the other guy who's had a really good

1024
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: veteran presence is Seth Roberts, former Oakland Raider. I has

1025
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,920
Speaker 1: ten catches, but all ten of his catches are super timely.

1026
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:47,919
Speaker 1: He's one of those guys who when the defense takes

1027
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:51,719
Speaker 1: away everybody you expect, he finds an opening spot. He's

1028
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: not gonna be a pro bowler. He's not gonna have

1029
00:52:53,320 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: a thousand yard season, but in those crucial third and sixes,

1030
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:01,279
Speaker 1: in those crucial situations where Lamar Jackson looked like he's

1031
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,840
Speaker 1: out of options, Seth Roberts seems to show up in

1032
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 1: the right place at the right time. Jerry on defense,

1033
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: there are some names we know, of course, when you're

1034
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:12,040
Speaker 1: from the outside looking in, tell me about that side

1035
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 1: of the football and what you're getting out of those guys,

1036
00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 1: because obviously the job is getting done with the Baltimore Ravens.

1037
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:21,320
Speaker 1: So the defense up front is all about Brandon Williams

1038
00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 1: and Michael Pierce. When they're healthy, they stopped the run.

1039
00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 1: And when they stopped the run, the Ravens usually win

1040
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 1: because they can make a team one dimensional, and that's

1041
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,319
Speaker 1: the exact style that the Ravens like to play. They

1042
00:53:31,360 --> 00:53:33,359
Speaker 1: want to take away the run. They want to force

1043
00:53:33,400 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: you to pass when you don't want to throw the ball.

1044
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 1: The story of the Ravens is the inside linebackers. They

1045
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: opened the season with Peanut Owasu and Kenny Young at

1046
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:46,120
Speaker 1: Mike and Will, and Peanut is a natural will and

1047
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: was completely out of place at Mike, and Kenny Young

1048
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: was just a flop. He just you know, he had

1049
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,440
Speaker 1: a couple of flash plays in preseason, but didn't do

1050
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 1: anything in the regular season. He was like, nothing getting done.

1051
00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:01,399
Speaker 1: They trade away Kenny Young, move Peanut over to the Will.

1052
00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 1: They bring in off waivers Josh Bindes and LJ. Fort,

1053
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, their defense starts to click

1054
00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 1: because Earl Thomas steps up at the safety's position. You're

1055
00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: bringing Marcus Peters, who you know, I'm gad they fleece

1056
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: the Rams and got Marcus Peters. Jimmy Smith gets healthy,

1057
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, now you're front strong, Your

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Speaker 1: inside linebacker position is really solid again, and you might

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00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 1: have one of the two or three best secondaries in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. So the Ravens defense you're gonna see Sunday

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00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 1: doesn't remotely resemble the Ravens defense that struggled on the

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Speaker 1: road in week three in Kansas City. It is a

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00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 1: completely different unit and it has started to come together

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Speaker 1: with this unusual mix of veterans, free agents and a

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00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,480
Speaker 1: sprinkling of young guys who were not even on the

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Speaker 1: radar in training camp. Nobody thought Marcus Peters Ravens. In

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00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:56,520
Speaker 1: training camp, nobody thought, oh jahad Ward and Josh Bines

1068
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 1: and LJ. Fort they were on the street, and now

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00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: they're very much vital members of this defense. Jerry Sandusky,

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Speaker 1: voice of the Ravens joining us. What are they saying

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Speaker 1: about the Texans in Baltimore this week so far? So

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Speaker 1: what most people who have followed them closely are saying

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Speaker 1: is this is a huge challenge because the Texans run

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00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:20,120
Speaker 1: the readoption, the Texans run the RPO. Deshaun Watson has

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00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: a huge arm, he's elusive, and he's got great receivers.

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Speaker 1: So this is going to be an enormous test for

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. And anybody who has followed football closely knows.

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Speaker 1: There's one other thing that the Texans have that I

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Speaker 1: would say nobody else the Ravens that face have had.

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Speaker 1: They've seen this style of offense in practice every day.

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Speaker 1: They've seen the rpo every day. They've seen the readoption

1082
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:47,279
Speaker 1: every day, and they've seen a big arm quarterback every day.

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Speaker 1: Most people who play the Ravens haven't seen that. They've

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Speaker 1: seen one or two of those elements, but not all three.

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Speaker 1: So the Texans have all three on their offense, which

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Speaker 1: means the Texans defense has practiced against all three all

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Speaker 1: seasons and that creates, you know, the biggest challenge of

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Speaker 1: the season so far for the Ravens. All right, So

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Speaker 1: obviously this is a big landscape in the AFC game

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Speaker 1: on Sunday. What about the other teams buying for the

1091
00:56:12,440 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 1: AFC crowd. You've seen Kansas City up close to personal,

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Speaker 1: You've seen the Patriots up close to personal. What do

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00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: you think of the rest of the AFC? So, I

1094
00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,880
Speaker 1: think Kansas City is a much better team than the Patriots.

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00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,360
Speaker 1: I wasn't impressed with the Patriots defense at all, despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that you know, they had such amazing numbers

1097
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: coming in and they were you know, eight no and

1098
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: nobody had done anything against them and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: I wasn't blown away at all by the by their defense.

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Speaker 1: I think Kansas City has better personnel. I think the

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00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:46,920
Speaker 1: personnel is really coming together now, and I think Kansas

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00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,040
Speaker 1: City's offense is far more talented. I mean it's not

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Speaker 1: even in the same league as the Patriots, so as

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00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: as you look there, Yeah, the Patriots are gonna win

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00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,839
Speaker 1: the AFC East for sure. Buffalo I think is good,

1106
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,800
Speaker 1: possibly a playoff team, but I don't think a huge threat.

1107
00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: The Steelers are legit in the North. I know the

1108
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: one in four start had everybody's thinking they were done,

1109
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: but we have way too much respect for Pittsburgh in Baltimore.

1110
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: We know what they're all about, and it's a good thing.

1111
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: The Ravens have won five straight. Because they've won four straight,

1112
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,520
Speaker 1: they are going to be right in it. They're gonna

1113
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Speaker 1: be in the thick of it. They're gonna be a

1114
00:57:17,840 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 1: major factor come December. You guys are legit in the South,

1115
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: and I think the Titans are going to be a

1116
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: wild card. I think the Titans are going to find

1117
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 1: a way to get in. I love their coordinator deanps.

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00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 1: He's always done a great job when he was here.

1119
00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: He's done a great job there. I think they're one

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Speaker 1: of the teams that currently a little under the radar,

1121
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: that people are looking past and will pay the price

1122
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,640
Speaker 1: for doing so, and then out west. Hey, Chuck, he's

1123
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,160
Speaker 1: done a good job with the Raiders. I don't think

1124
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,280
Speaker 1: they're there yet. I think they're gonna really threaten. I

1125
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: think they'll play a roll down the stretch. But the

1126
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: West is going to be about Kansas City. The Chargers

1127
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,760
Speaker 1: are hot, but I think they got themselves into too

1128
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: big of a hole early on to me my hunches

1129
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:02,760
Speaker 1: Right now, the AFC is going to run through one

1130
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 1: of a couple of cities, and that obviously would be

1131
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 1: New England, but I don't think it will be in

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00:58:07,800 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: New England at the end. I think it'll be New England,

1133
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 1: Baltimore or Houston with Kansas City. Those are the four

1134
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Speaker 1: cities that over the next seven weeks, those four teams

1135
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: will determine where is the ultimate destination that you have

1136
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:23,400
Speaker 1: to go through to get to the Super Bowl. It's

1137
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: up to those four teams to kind of write that script. Jerry,

1138
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: one more for you, How Jews are the fans in

1139
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:32,920
Speaker 1: Baltimore over Lamar Jackson in this new era of Ravens football.

1140
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a team that has won Super Bowls.

1141
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: This is a team that has done some amazing things

1142
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: with different sets of personnel and Hall of Famers and

1143
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 1: all of that. So what about this new era? What's

1144
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: the fan reaction? Like, let me see if I can

1145
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,919
Speaker 1: give you an analogy that you will understand. You've driven

1146
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,520
Speaker 1: a car since you were sixteen, but do you remember

1147
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: the first time you got into a real luxury car

1148
00:58:57,240 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: and you're like, whoa, this is unbelievable. That's what Ravens

1149
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: fans feel like. Look, we've had good teams here, we've

1150
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:05,600
Speaker 1: won two Super Bowls, we've had we've had a lot

1151
00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 1: of stars here for a quarter of a century. But

1152
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 1: it's always been defense, yep. And all of a sudden,

1153
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 1: you have this quarterback who is electric. He's got a

1154
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: personality that is as genuine as they come. People gravitate

1155
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: toward him. He's got the team fired up. People not

1156
00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: only like the way he plays, they like this kid.

1157
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:25,919
Speaker 1: He's a kind of young man that you'd say, date

1158
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,000
Speaker 1: my daughter, you know, come to the house for Thanksgiving.

1159
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,920
Speaker 1: People just like him. He's he's a preeminently likable young man.

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Speaker 1: He has galvanized the town and for the first time,

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00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 1: Ravens fans are just jacked about an offense. Never had

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Speaker 1: an offense in this town. Yeah, you know, the year

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00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 1: they win the Super Bowl forty seven, Flacco has a

1164
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:46,880
Speaker 1: great run through the playoffs, but that was not a

1165
00:59:47,000 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: great offense. There was an offense that had a great month.

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00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: This time, you've got a town really excited about having

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00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: one of the best offenses in the NFL, revolutionizing the

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00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:58,760
Speaker 1: offense in the NFL and loving the kid who's at

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00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:02,000
Speaker 1: the at the heart of it. It has completely changed

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Speaker 1: the excitement level of football in Baltimore. Great stuff there

1171
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 1: from the men behind the mics, Mark Vandimir and play

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Speaker 1: by play voice of the Baltimore Ravens, Jerry Sandusky. When

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Speaker 1: we get back, it's time to go in the lab.

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Speaker 1: Who has been the cream of the crop thus far

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Speaker 1: through nine weeks for your Texans your doughty nine handle

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Speaker 1: Latin X right here Texans Axis. Hello Houston teachers. Well

1177
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,080
Speaker 1: at all of you listening to the show, But this

1178
01:00:32,560 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 1: little nugget right here is for all my Houston teachers

1179
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Speaker 1: out there. You want to bring a little Texas football

1180
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: to your classroom and sign up for Toros Matrils presented

1181
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: by Conico Phillips. Toros Matril's video series designed to help

1182
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,480
Speaker 1: third fourth graders learn how to tackle math in the classroom.

1183
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: Go to Houston Texas dot com slash Toros Matris to

1184
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 1: learn more. Signed John Harris former Algebra one, Algebra two, geometry, trigonometry,

1185
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Speaker 1: calculm lists, an ap calculus teacher formerly long time ago.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if I could teach any of those today.

1187
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 1: Maybe it wouldn't take me long to get back up

1188
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Speaker 1: the speed. I like teaching. It was fun. But with

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Speaker 1: Toros Matros. Trust me on the fact that I did

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Speaker 1: do in my own way. I gave kids tests the

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Speaker 1: not the stat sheet, but I would bring football into

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Speaker 1: my tests, sports into my tests, and kids loved them.

1193
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Speaker 1: They loved it. That's a good way to do it.

1194
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Speaker 1: So there you go Toro's math drills. Now I am

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Speaker 1: also John Harris football I else a silent reporter for

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Speaker 1: Houston Texans. I am also John Harris, one half of

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Speaker 1: the Venerable podcast crew. In the lab myself and Drew Doughty.

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Speaker 1: Each week we get together and we talked through various things.

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Speaker 1: And one of the things that we do is we

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Speaker 1: talk about cream of the crop. You understand, cream of

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Speaker 1: the crop, the top of the top, top of the table,

1202
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,720
Speaker 1: as they would say in Premier League. The top of

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Speaker 1: the top, who's been the best the best each and

1204
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Speaker 1: every week we do that for each game. Well, there's

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Speaker 1: no game last week, so we decided who's been the

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Speaker 1: cream of the crop for last nine weeks. Now, we

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Speaker 1: had one major caveat couldn't pick to Shaun Watson, so

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Speaker 1: we kept the Shawn out of it, and obviously JJ

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Speaker 1: being hurt, we kept JJ out of it. So we

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01:02:16,800 --> 01:02:21,040
Speaker 1: came up with two answers independently of one another that

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Speaker 1: feature the defensive line and the offensive line. This is

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Speaker 1: just a little snippet from our podcast. You want to

1213
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Speaker 1: check out the full in the Lab podcast, go to

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Speaker 1: Houston Texas dot com, go to iTunes wherever you get

1215
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: your podcasts. You can pick up the podcast, leave us

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01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: a rating, tell us how we can improve, and to

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Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and we will do that

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Speaker 1: for you. It's always fun to do Withdrew. Here's our

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Speaker 1: cream of the Crop players the first nine weeks of

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Speaker 1: the year, cream of the crop, first nine games this season,

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Speaker 1: and let's say cream of the crop. You can't choose

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Speaker 1: to Shaun Watson, all right, because it's such an easy choice.

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Speaker 1: So we're not gonna go with the Shawn Watson, therefore

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Speaker 1: your cream of the crop player for the Houston Texans

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Speaker 1: through nine games of twenty nineteen. John Is, I'm going

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Speaker 1: to give you a complete and total surprise. That's why.

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Speaker 1: That's why I got you here, because you do these things.

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Speaker 1: But I think he's been one of the most dominant

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Speaker 1: interior players that I have seen all year long at

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Speaker 1: any level. And as DJ Reader, I like it. I

1231
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,439
Speaker 1: think DJ Reader has played at a Pro Bowl level.

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Speaker 1: I think he has been consistent. His pass rush has

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Speaker 1: been really improved year over year over year. I mean

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Speaker 1: back in twenty sixteen, yeah, I check that. Twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Even they would take him out on third down, sometimes

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Speaker 1: even second down, just get him off the field because

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Speaker 1: they're gonna put pass rushers on the field. Now there's

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01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:42,120
Speaker 1: there comes a time where a third down, if he's

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01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: out there, sometimes he bumps to the outside. He's playing

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Speaker 1: a defensive ends spot. He's a problem, man. He's probably

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Speaker 1: he really has become a problem. And it's so funny too,

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Speaker 1: because this week, of all weeks, he faces the we

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Speaker 1: face the Ravens. When I saw this guy at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Well, I was convinced about Brandon Williams, who plays

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Speaker 1: for the Ravens. I was like, that guy's a problem.

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Speaker 1: He is a huge problem. Then I saw him as

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Speaker 1: a rookie in twenty four two rookie or second year

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Speaker 1: guy in twenty fourteen, can't remember which, but we couldn't

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Speaker 1: block him here. That was the game that case Keenam

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Speaker 1: came in and we Foster through a touchdown pass. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was one of the great wins here. It was

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Speaker 1: kreible like, how did we just pull that off? With

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Speaker 1: case Keenan pulling him out of a duck blind? And

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Speaker 1: in that game though, Brandon Williams was a dude, and

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Speaker 1: I just remember watching DJ Reader thinking that's that's who

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Speaker 1: Reader is. Reader is Brandon Williams. But each and every

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Speaker 1: year Reader's gotten better and better and better to a

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Speaker 1: point where Brandon Williams is really effective against the run.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know that that he impacts the pass rush.

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Speaker 1: Reader is now impacting the pass rush. He's chasing down

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Speaker 1: screens yep. I thought one of the bigger plays of

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Speaker 1: the year was him chasing down that that uh chase

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Speaker 1: now Shandy McCoy on the screen pass against the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: and then had a tackle for loss in the very

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Speaker 1: next play the only tackle for a lost that day

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Speaker 1: against the Chiefs, and he had both of those. His

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01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:10,800
Speaker 1: past rush has been improved. He's just everything you want

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01:05:10,840 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 1: from an interior player. I think DJ Reader is as

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01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,080
Speaker 1: cream of the crop as it gets the way that

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01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:19,280
Speaker 1: he has been playing. So it's maybe a little bit

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01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: of a surprise. But I've been thinking about that for

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01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 1: a while and andre Were said it during the broadcast

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01:05:22,880 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 1: the other day and I was like, dang it, Drey,

1274
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: you stole my thunder. But I was on where I

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01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: was problem, so he's probably reading my mind. DJ Reader

1276
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:31,479
Speaker 1: has been playing at a pro bowl level, There's no question,

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01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 1: no question. That's kind of the fun of this exercise

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01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: when you take the Shaun Watson out of the equation,

1279
01:05:36,640 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 1: because he's clearly the cream of the crop. I mean clearly,

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01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: So you take him out and then there are many

1281
01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: many options. You could go any number of ways. Readers

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01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,680
Speaker 1: a good one. It's a time from my cream of

1283
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: the crop and John I'm gonna go with the new acquisition. Okay, wait,

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01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 1: let me see if I can figure this out. It's

1285
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: not tough left tackle, yep. Now, I was very bullish

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01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: on the two rookies Titus Howard, Max Sharping. I thought,

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01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,560
Speaker 1: in some form or fashion before the season started, you're

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01:06:04,560 --> 01:06:08,800
Speaker 1: gonna see them starting pretty early on together, don't know where,

1289
01:06:09,040 --> 01:06:11,280
Speaker 1: don't know how, but you'll see them on the field

1290
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: together and starting. And that will alone, two spots on

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01:06:15,320 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: a five man line. That's gonna make it better. And

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01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,680
Speaker 1: it has. But I think when you added in Tunsil

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01:06:22,880 --> 01:06:26,800
Speaker 1: at the left tackle position and the way he's played,

1294
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,480
Speaker 1: which I think is if it's not the best in

1295
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: the NFL right now at that spot, it's one of

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01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:35,200
Speaker 1: the two or three best. And what that's done is

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01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: what we saw with Dwayne Brown and Dayne Brown was

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01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: in the lineup. It just raises the level of everybody

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01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,520
Speaker 1: else over to his right. It has a domino effect,

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01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: and that's what I've seen happen with this line because

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01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 1: you see what they're doing in the run game. They

1302
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:51,320
Speaker 1: were doing that when Deshaun Watson was getting pummeled early

1303
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: in the season, and then when lately when Deshaun Watson

1304
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 1: has been getting rid of the ball a lot quicker,

1305
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,919
Speaker 1: which I think is really even sped up the growth

1306
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,320
Speaker 1: of this offensive line. You know, I think once once

1307
01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: to Sean and the coaches and they got together and said,

1308
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:06,880
Speaker 1: let's do this, let's do this, let's get rid of

1309
01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: the ball quicker blah blah blah blah. I think then

1310
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: the offensive line looked even better, and it was it

1311
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: was always kind of there. But the quarterback plays a

1312
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 1: huge role in pass protection. So I'm gonna go at

1313
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:21,320
Speaker 1: Tounsil though, because I think he has He's giving you

1314
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,040
Speaker 1: a lockdown left tackle who really really rubs off well

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01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 1: on all the others around him. And we've seen what

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:33,360
Speaker 1: this offense can do with the Shawn Watson and protection. Yeah,

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01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:39,760
Speaker 1: I think that the Atlanta Sometimes games don't make sense,

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01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 1: sometimes it make perfect sense. The game that Atlanta played

1319
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,520
Speaker 1: just this last weekend against New Orleans, Yeah, they got

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:49,920
Speaker 1: pass rush, they sat Drew Brees I think four or

1321
01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:53,960
Speaker 1: five times. They made life miserable for Drew Brees. Breeze

1322
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:56,919
Speaker 1: and the offense don't score touchdown, they have nine points

1323
01:07:56,960 --> 01:08:00,280
Speaker 1: to kick through three field goals. I'm like, WHOA, that's

1324
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 1: a defense that the Texans lit up like a Christmas tree.

1325
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,320
Speaker 1: And one of the main aspects in that game was

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01:08:07,360 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: the fact that Deshas throwing the ball within two and

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01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: a half seconds, and not only was he throwing it

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01:08:11,720 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 1: within two and a half seconds. He wasn't just throwing

1329
01:08:14,880 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 1: like quick screens and like smoke screens, jet screens and

1330
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: those kind of things. He was throwing the ball down

1331
01:08:19,080 --> 01:08:21,639
Speaker 1: the field. He had two and a half seconds. He dropped,

1332
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:24,439
Speaker 1: He had time, saw guys open, bang it, and he

1333
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:27,280
Speaker 1: was throwing it. And a large reason for that was

1334
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:31,639
Speaker 1: the line was solidified from we saw it against the Chargers.

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01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:35,200
Speaker 1: That was the first time we saw this five come together.

1336
01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 1: Theremy Tunso it left, and then Max Sharp and Nick Martin,

1337
01:08:40,760 --> 01:08:43,799
Speaker 1: Zack Fulton and Tyus Howard. We saw it against the Chargers,

1338
01:08:44,240 --> 01:08:45,800
Speaker 1: gave up and think a sack and a half that

1339
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: day against two the better pass rushers in the league.

1340
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,960
Speaker 1: Then we didn't see it the next week because Zach

1341
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,240
Speaker 1: was banged up. We played Carolina, came back for Atlanta,

1342
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: had those five back together. No sacks. Lit the Land

1343
01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:58,560
Speaker 1: defense up like a Christmas tree. The same defense that

1344
01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: Drew recently scored nine point at home against. You didn't

1345
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:05,479
Speaker 1: score touchdown and you had Laramie Tunsil there at left

1346
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: tackle with that five. Then you had it again against

1347
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:14,320
Speaker 1: the the Raiders. I think it was the Raiders. You

1348
01:09:14,400 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: play the Raiders at home and you have that five

1349
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: again again. You don't give up any sacks. Now, there

1350
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: were a couple of times pressure came you know, came through,

1351
01:09:22,600 --> 01:09:24,200
Speaker 1: but you didn't have Tidy's Howard that day, so you

1352
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 1: did get a little bit of pressure there. But then

1353
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:30,360
Speaker 1: you put the five again back together again, hopefully after

1354
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,920
Speaker 1: the bye week. Yeah, and you get that same five

1355
01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,800
Speaker 1: for the rest of the year. Who's to say what

1356
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,160
Speaker 1: you can do? And here's the other aspect of it,

1357
01:09:37,240 --> 01:09:39,759
Speaker 1: Drew you mentioned it at all. Everything has a domino effect.

1358
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:42,719
Speaker 1: And when you think about, Okay, you don't have Laramie Tunsil,

1359
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,720
Speaker 1: So what do you have to do if you don't

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01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: have Laramie Tunsilo? Last year, what did you have to do? Well,

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: you had to use the running backs, and you had

1362
01:09:49,760 --> 01:09:52,679
Speaker 1: to use the tight ends to try and help left tackle,

1363
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: right tackle, whomever was out there you had. You had

1364
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: to use those guys to help. So you take the

1365
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:58,599
Speaker 1: tight ends and that limits your your options on offense, right,

1366
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,479
Speaker 1: it limits your options on office. Teams now can double

1367
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 1: team Hopkins. They can even have double teams everywhere else.

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01:10:04,479 --> 01:10:06,960
Speaker 1: They can play three over two in other places because

1369
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: now they're playing two over one. But they're only Russian

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,120
Speaker 1: five or I'm sorry four, because they know that the

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01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,040
Speaker 1: four can get there and we're having to use six

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01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: and maybe seven guys to protect against that. So now

1373
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,400
Speaker 1: Deshawn's gotta hold the ball. But if those five are

1374
01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:22,320
Speaker 1: protecting your four against your four, or those five are

1375
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,160
Speaker 1: protecting you, bring another guy those fire protecting against five.

1376
01:10:25,640 --> 01:10:28,360
Speaker 1: Now you got to you got six guys to cover five,

1377
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: and our five are going to be better than the

1378
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:33,120
Speaker 1: six that you have, and that creates a ton of

1379
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:35,320
Speaker 1: pressure on defenses. And that's what they were able to

1380
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,400
Speaker 1: do against Atlanta. That's what they're able to do against

1381
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,400
Speaker 1: Kansas City. That's the other game. That's the other night.

1382
01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:41,920
Speaker 1: We lost Titus at some point in that game. But

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01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,680
Speaker 1: when you have Larimy Tounso left tackle, it just has

1384
01:10:44,720 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: this domino effect. So, okay, let's say Titus Howard struggling

1385
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 1: a little bit, which Titus is not, but when he's

1386
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 1: out there, say he's struggling a little bit, Hey, you

1387
01:10:52,439 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 1: can help over there, because Larry's over there going I

1388
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:57,680
Speaker 1: got this, bro, I'm good, I'm good. Let me go

1389
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: one on one, I got this all game. Me and

1390
01:11:00,720 --> 01:11:03,599
Speaker 1: the best pass rusher. They've got I've got this. That's

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01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:07,400
Speaker 1: something you couldn't say. I mean day backed Dwayne Brown.

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01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,760
Speaker 1: I mean that was the last what Dwayne played one

1393
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,599
Speaker 1: game in seventeen dating backed the sixteen, I mean twenty Yeah,

1394
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,080
Speaker 1: that's wire the year and we wasted all that protection

1395
01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:18,599
Speaker 1: him brought. But that's a different story out together. Um,

1396
01:11:19,240 --> 01:11:20,880
Speaker 1: but that's the last time where you could say that.

1397
01:11:21,160 --> 01:11:24,680
Speaker 1: And even at that point, Dwayne's a phenomenal player. But

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: Larym's twenty five. Yeah, he's probably a little bit better

1399
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: than Dayne was. Yeah, I think I think Dwayne stronger,

1400
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 1: probably a little bit stronger. But I think laram has

1401
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 1: every other asset feet, quickness, moving skills, agility, I mean everything.

1402
01:11:41,080 --> 01:11:43,519
Speaker 1: He's got that, and I mean Laramie is built from

1403
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,920
Speaker 1: He's built like a house, you know what. He's got

1404
01:11:47,000 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 1: these athletic legs. It looked like a linebacker's legs. And

1405
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:51,680
Speaker 1: he's got this torso that looks like, you know, it's

1406
01:11:51,680 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: this big, huge fee. Yeah, you know that looks like

1407
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:56,120
Speaker 1: the little wireless symbol, you know, a little wireless symbol

1408
01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:57,800
Speaker 1: that shows up, you know that kind of goes off.

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01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 1: He looks kind of like that around and time. Yeah, yeah,

1410
01:12:00,680 --> 01:12:02,800
Speaker 1: I like it. That's a good choice, all right. So

1411
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:04,720
Speaker 1: those are our cream of the crops. There have been

1412
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 1: plenty of dudes on the team this year, no question

1413
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: when he Mercill has been great. Yander Hopkins is playing

1414
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 1: as he always does, Zach cutting AmAm, but Rodrick McKinney

1415
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 1: had been phenomenal, Justin Reid incredible. There have been great

1416
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,720
Speaker 1: play up and down a line of scrimmage, line of scrimmages,

1417
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:24,679
Speaker 1: lines of scrimmage. I just have felt like Dj Reader

1418
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: every single week is doing more and more and more

1419
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,599
Speaker 1: to be the dude on the defensive line for this team.

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01:12:30,720 --> 01:12:33,720
Speaker 1: He's been incredible. And Larremy Tunsil, he's as good as

1421
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,120
Speaker 1: it gets. He is the future of the left tackle

1422
01:12:36,200 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: position in the league. I know Tyrn Smith and Trent

1423
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,519
Speaker 1: Williams are two of those guys, David Baktier, but I've

1424
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 1: seen Baktiar struggle little bit this year and he's dealing

1425
01:12:43,439 --> 01:12:45,759
Speaker 1: with some injuries. Larmy Tunsil's the future of that position

1426
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: in the league, no doubt. All Right, we get back.

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01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,720
Speaker 1: Let's gonna behind enemy sidelines. Learn a little bit more

1428
01:12:50,760 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 1: about the Baltimore Ravens with dp CIT who had on

1429
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,559
Speaker 1: Jeff's Dreebeck, who covers the Ravens for the Athletic. We've

1430
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:59,720
Speaker 1: had him on a few other times when he was

1431
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: different organization. Now he's with the Athletic and he gives

1432
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,439
Speaker 1: us a skinny on the Ravens. Next right here, Texans Access,

1433
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: It's time to go behind enemy sidelines with Deep City

1434
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: this week. Jeff Street back from the Athletic. How's it

1435
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,200
Speaker 1: going today? Jeff? Good good? How are you guys doing?

1436
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 1: Doing good? I've talked to you a lot over the years.

1437
01:13:15,960 --> 01:13:17,600
Speaker 1: First time with your new gig used to be with

1438
01:13:17,680 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Sun, So good to have you on here

1439
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: is always Let's talk about the Ravens. Five straight wins

1440
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: for the first time since two thousand and six. It

1441
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:28,720
Speaker 1: seems like a lot has changed since then, not just

1442
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:31,760
Speaker 1: the wins. How different is it for you covering a

1443
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:35,840
Speaker 1: team that traditionally was low scoring known for their stingy defense,

1444
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 1: to now covering the NFL leader in points per game

1445
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:42,559
Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson. Yeah, you know, I think the biggest

1446
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:46,200
Speaker 1: thing is sort of the excitement factor. You know, the

1447
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:50,000
Speaker 1: Ravens have long had an organization that's known to be

1448
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:53,000
Speaker 1: you know, one of the better and most stable ones

1449
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:55,200
Speaker 1: in the league. They've done an awful lot of winning,

1450
01:13:56,080 --> 01:14:00,479
Speaker 1: so they're you know, they've consistently been relevant and competing

1451
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 1: for playoff berth at the end of the year, and

1452
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: they should be applauded for that. But yeah, the Lamar

1453
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,560
Speaker 1: Jackson and just how they're running the offense has kind of,

1454
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 1: you know, it's made them musty television. We're not used

1455
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 1: to the Ravens being musty television. They're usually a team

1456
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,200
Speaker 1: that grinds out wins. They're usually a team that had

1457
01:14:20,280 --> 01:14:22,960
Speaker 1: that you know, has their biggest stars on the defensive

1458
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball. You know, run the ball a

1459
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 1: lot like this team does as well, but it's sort

1460
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,320
Speaker 1: of a different kind of you know, running and a

1461
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 1: totally different kind of offense than what we're used to.

1462
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:37,439
Speaker 1: So it has been different. Um, you know, I know,

1463
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 1: people league wide or sort of excited about what they

1464
01:14:42,240 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: watch week to week from this team in terms of

1465
01:14:44,439 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 1: the creativity. And then you have Lamar Jackson and his ability.

1466
01:14:48,400 --> 01:14:50,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's been a fun season so far, a

1467
01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 1: little bit unexpected. I thought they would be pretty good,

1468
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:55,160
Speaker 1: but I don't know that I thought that they'd be

1469
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,680
Speaker 1: seven and two and have a two game lead, you

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01:14:58,760 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 1: know in the AFC North. The stage of the game. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good point you bring up with Lamar Jackson.

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01:15:03,439 --> 01:15:06,880
Speaker 1: There's really no sophomore slump for him. Where do you

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,919
Speaker 1: think he's taken the biggest step forward in his development

1474
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:11,840
Speaker 1: or do you think it was something that you started

1475
01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:14,920
Speaker 1: to see when you look back maybe sometime last year. Yeah,

1476
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: you know last year was Joe Flacco went down right

1477
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 1: around mid season with the hip injury, and Jackson kind

1478
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 1: of came in and everything was kind of done on

1479
01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: the fly. You know, they just threw together and I

1480
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 1: don't want to say threw together, like there wasn't thought

1481
01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: that went into it. But they put together every week

1482
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,360
Speaker 1: a game plan that they believed would help them win

1483
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 1: that game. And you know, they went on the run

1484
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:42,320
Speaker 1: and winded up winning the AFC North, which was totally unexpected.

1485
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,280
Speaker 1: But they did it sort of in an offense that

1486
01:15:45,439 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 1: really had larfed into what they wanted it to become.

1487
01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:51,559
Speaker 1: It was they didn't have the time for that. They

1488
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:54,519
Speaker 1: just had to, you know, get ready for that particular game.

1489
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 1: And this offseason they've totally revamped the entire offense, built

1490
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: it added certain players and everything was done with Lamar

1491
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: Jackson in mind. So yeah, it's an entirely different offense.

1492
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:09,920
Speaker 1: And as for him, you know, he's taken the next

1493
01:16:09,960 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: step in pretty much everything, and he still has some

1494
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: you know, he still has some areas where he needs

1495
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,679
Speaker 1: to prove too, and they're pretty upfront about that. Jackson's

1496
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:20,840
Speaker 1: his own harsh's critic. He'll be the first to tell

1497
01:16:20,920 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 1: you that. But just his command of the game and

1498
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:28,519
Speaker 1: the offense probably the biggest thing. He does some things

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01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:33,760
Speaker 1: every week that just show you his development, whether it's uh,

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01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:36,400
Speaker 1: you know, getting out of a certain play, whether it's

1501
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 1: putting the ball in a certain area. It's just it's

1502
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:44,240
Speaker 1: been really impressive how he's grown as a quarterback, you know,

1503
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: all the things. Every every week we see something athletically

1504
01:16:48,240 --> 01:16:51,439
Speaker 1: that is just like wow. But I think everybody knew

1505
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson was an elite athlete. It's how he's becoming

1506
01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,560
Speaker 1: a better all around quarterback that that has been the

1507
01:16:58,640 --> 01:17:01,880
Speaker 1: most impressive. I know, the Texans had to buy over

1508
01:17:01,960 --> 01:17:03,560
Speaker 1: the weekend and a lot of us were watching that

1509
01:17:03,680 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: Ravens game, and there's been a lot of talk about

1510
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:09,599
Speaker 1: that Heisman package with mark Ingram RG three and Jackson.

1511
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,479
Speaker 1: How long do you think the l Ravens had been

1512
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: storing that one up? And might we see some more

1513
01:17:13,680 --> 01:17:18,200
Speaker 1: of that on Sunday? Yeah, you know, I'm asking you

1514
01:17:18,280 --> 01:17:21,080
Speaker 1: to look into a crystal ball looking at RG three

1515
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:23,880
Speaker 1: has been looking to get into the act. He wants

1516
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 1: to get on the field a little bit and wants

1517
01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 1: to get the ball in his hand a little bit.

1518
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 1: So he's been sort of pushing the coaches for it,

1519
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,439
Speaker 1: asking the coaches to get it in and they started

1520
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 1: practicing it several weeks back, and this past game was

1521
01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:40,720
Speaker 1: the first one they went to it. I don't think

1522
01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be a major part of what they do,

1523
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 1: but I think at this stage of the game, anytime

1524
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:49,519
Speaker 1: you could put something on a film and make your

1525
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:51,880
Speaker 1: opposition the rest of the way have to prepare for

1526
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:56,120
Speaker 1: different things, it's worth it. You know, it's worth doing,

1527
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:59,080
Speaker 1: especially since you know you had a pretty good idea

1528
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: early against the Bangles that the Ravens had that game

1529
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:03,960
Speaker 1: in hand. So it was a good opportunity to work

1530
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:06,200
Speaker 1: on some some stuff, to put some stuff on film.

1531
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:08,760
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know that we'll see a ton

1532
01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: of it, but they'll keep work on if they know

1533
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: it's there and it's hardball, said earlier this week. There's

1534
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,880
Speaker 1: some variations of that too where the ball, you know,

1535
01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 1: is one of the guys throws the ball too. So um,

1536
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, I again, I think they're gonna do what

1537
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:25,960
Speaker 1: they do, but you might as well use all the

1538
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,800
Speaker 1: all the talent you have on your offense. As if

1539
01:18:28,880 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 1: preparing for that Ravens offense wasn't complicated enough, and Bill

1540
01:18:32,800 --> 01:18:34,560
Speaker 1: O'Brien said he didn't have time to watch many of

1541
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,960
Speaker 1: the games. He was too busy watching Ravens film And

1542
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:39,160
Speaker 1: a lot of our players are talking about how complex

1543
01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: this offense is, maybe the most complex to prepare for

1544
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,240
Speaker 1: in the league. Why is it so tough to prepare

1545
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:48,600
Speaker 1: for the Ravens in a copycat league? What makes the

1546
01:18:48,680 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: play calling and the way that they organize their offense

1547
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:56,760
Speaker 1: so unique? Yeah, that's a great question, And I mean, well,

1548
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,439
Speaker 1: of course it starts with Lamar Jackson, and you talk

1549
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:04,320
Speaker 1: to players and coaches from different teams and the biggest

1550
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 1: problem they have is they really can't. They don't have

1551
01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:10,559
Speaker 1: anybody that can really stimulate what he does and how

1552
01:19:10,680 --> 01:19:13,880
Speaker 1: quick he does it with the ball handling and the

1553
01:19:14,080 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: speed you know, we've seen you know, the Pittsburgh before

1554
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,960
Speaker 1: they played the Ravens. Uh, you know, added some college

1555
01:19:22,080 --> 01:19:26,880
Speaker 1: quarterback you know, to their practice squads just so they

1556
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:29,439
Speaker 1: have a guy that you know, had the sort of

1557
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:32,800
Speaker 1: athleticism they thought Jackson had. So teams are trying a

1558
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:35,880
Speaker 1: bunch of different things, using wide receivers to stimulate it.

1559
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,439
Speaker 1: And that's the that's where it starts. And then the

1560
01:19:39,520 --> 01:19:43,160
Speaker 1: other problem is, you know, their offensive coordinator, Greg Roman

1561
01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,840
Speaker 1: is known for his complex run schemes that they're very

1562
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,680
Speaker 1: versatile in their running plays. They can run, you know,

1563
01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:53,639
Speaker 1: they'll you'll think they'll have the same formation, they'll run

1564
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:58,200
Speaker 1: so many different plays out of that formation and none

1565
01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:01,559
Speaker 1: of them maybe look the same. And you know, he's

1566
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: done it his whole career. He's had a top you

1567
01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:08,080
Speaker 1: know five rushing offense pretty much every year he's been

1568
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: an offensive coordinator. There aren't too many coaches assistance that

1569
01:20:12,720 --> 01:20:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, are able to design a run game like

1570
01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 1: the one the Ravens have. And I just think that,

1571
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 1: you know, it's just a lot to prepare for. Every

1572
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 1: week they're adding more things, so you think you're you're

1573
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:24,920
Speaker 1: sort of catching up with it, and you've got a

1574
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:27,280
Speaker 1: good handle, and then they throw a couple of different

1575
01:20:27,320 --> 01:20:30,400
Speaker 1: looks at you. But you know, obviously it all starts

1576
01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,560
Speaker 1: with Jackson and his ability to do a bunch of

1577
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,080
Speaker 1: different things, so that that's going to be the first headache.

1578
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are watching Lamar Jackson

1579
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:38,920
Speaker 1: across the league, and there's a lot of talk about

1580
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: him being the MVP. With a guy that is so

1581
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:44,639
Speaker 1: valuable to an offense with everything sort of structured around him,

1582
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:49,200
Speaker 1: how does John Harball balance having Lamar b Lamar with Okay,

1583
01:20:49,280 --> 01:20:52,479
Speaker 1: let's keep him healthy and avoid some unnecessary hits when possible.

1584
01:20:52,560 --> 01:20:54,960
Speaker 1: Or has that just sort of gone by the wayside

1585
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 1: at this point in the season. Yeah, that's no, that's

1586
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,639
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a definite question. I think there's

1587
01:21:00,720 --> 01:21:03,519
Speaker 1: people that want to be right, and by people, I'm

1588
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:07,560
Speaker 1: talking about some fans and some national media pundance that

1589
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:11,200
Speaker 1: want to be right about the fact that a quarterback

1590
01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,320
Speaker 1: that runs as much as Jackson can't stay healthy and

1591
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:19,519
Speaker 1: won't succeed in the long term because he takes subjects

1592
01:21:19,560 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 1: himself to such hits. And you know, I think almost

1593
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 1: every certain people are waiting for that to happen. You know,

1594
01:21:25,240 --> 01:21:27,120
Speaker 1: which is kind of a shame, but but that's the

1595
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:31,160
Speaker 1: way it is. Um. You know, they don't encourage certain

1596
01:21:31,320 --> 01:21:35,040
Speaker 1: types of runs. You know, they don't want Lamar Jackson

1597
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,400
Speaker 1: running too much in between the tackles. And he's he

1598
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: is pretty smart. I can I can count the number

1599
01:21:42,240 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: of big hits he's taken on a run this year

1600
01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 1: on one hand, and I know all it takes is one.

1601
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 1: I get that. But he's pretty smart about getting out

1602
01:21:52,640 --> 01:21:55,920
Speaker 1: of bounds, not cutting back too much in the middle

1603
01:21:55,960 --> 01:21:58,519
Speaker 1: of the field into traffic or to subject yourself the

1604
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,519
Speaker 1: big hit. In fact, the biggest hit all year he's

1605
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 1: taken was probably this past Sunday when he was in

1606
01:22:04,479 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: a pocket and delivering a path and he got thrilled.

1607
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:11,799
Speaker 1: So he's so quick and elusive that he doesn't teams

1608
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: struggle to hit him flush. But there they encourage him,

1609
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: as I said, to get out of bounds when they can,

1610
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:20,720
Speaker 1: to get down on the ground when he can, to

1611
01:22:20,880 --> 01:22:22,519
Speaker 1: not cut back in the middle of the field, And

1612
01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 1: they don't call a ton of plays that have him

1613
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:30,599
Speaker 1: running inside, especially in red zone situations where the defense

1614
01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:33,960
Speaker 1: is sort of you know, bunched together and you're you're

1615
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 1: pushing against a bunch of big guys, so they try

1616
01:22:37,000 --> 01:22:40,360
Speaker 1: to avoid him taking certain hits, but they've been consistent. Look,

1617
01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,960
Speaker 1: this is this guy's skill set. We're gonna use them

1618
01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:45,439
Speaker 1: and we're not gonna play scared. And you know, as

1619
01:22:45,479 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 1: you said, it's a fine line they walk, all right.

1620
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:49,720
Speaker 1: I have to get to the defense because they are

1621
01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:52,760
Speaker 1: playing at a very high level as well. Let's talk

1622
01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:55,840
Speaker 1: about Marcus Peters. Sort of took NFL by storm when

1623
01:22:56,320 --> 01:22:59,639
Speaker 1: the Ravens traded for Peters from the Rams just before

1624
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,960
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, and he's already done some nice things

1625
01:23:02,040 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 1: in just a few games with the Ravens. Two interceptions.

1626
01:23:04,479 --> 01:23:06,760
Speaker 1: What's been the difference for him making an impact so

1627
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,679
Speaker 1: early and just sort of melding himself into that Ravens

1628
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:13,120
Speaker 1: secondary so quickly. Everything you hear is just how smart

1629
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,799
Speaker 1: of a player he is, uh, you know, and he's

1630
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna give up plays because he gambles and everybody

1631
01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:24,800
Speaker 1: knows that. Uh you know, teams run double moves on

1632
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 1: him all the time. He hasn't it hasn't happened really

1633
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:31,640
Speaker 1: been on the Ravens. But you know he gives them

1634
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:33,680
Speaker 1: up too. I mean, that's that's a part of it.

1635
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,200
Speaker 1: But you can give you can withstand. You can deal

1636
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 1: with a player giving up a couple of big plays

1637
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:41,759
Speaker 1: if he's gonna take one and running back ninety yards

1638
01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,799
Speaker 1: for a for a pick six, like he has twice

1639
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:48,040
Speaker 1: in the last three games. So but his you know

1640
01:23:48,560 --> 01:23:50,600
Speaker 1: why he's fit in so well is he's just a

1641
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:55,040
Speaker 1: really intelligent player. Ravens play a pretty elaborate defense. They

1642
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: do a lot of disguises and you know, different coverages

1643
01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:01,559
Speaker 1: and and he's picked it up right away and he's

1644
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,639
Speaker 1: fit in perfectly. I mean, an outside cornerback really wasn't

1645
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:06,880
Speaker 1: a big need for them. I mean, you know who

1646
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:10,760
Speaker 1: doesn't need a cornerback, But it wasn't their biggest need.

1647
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: I mean, they needed a pass rusher. They questioned a

1648
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:17,440
Speaker 1: middle linebacker, but he was available, and the Ravens desperately

1649
01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:21,479
Speaker 1: needed a guy in defense, the playmaker. And he's fit

1650
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:25,479
Speaker 1: that bill. Because this isn't you know, the defense that

1651
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:28,120
Speaker 1: a lot of people are used to seeing from the Ravens.

1652
01:24:28,200 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: This is more of a you know, they've been more bend,

1653
01:24:30,720 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: but don't break this year. They give up yards. They

1654
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 1: don't really have a fierce pass rush. I mean, they

1655
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: depend a lot on blitzes, but they've sort of embraced this. Look,

1656
01:24:40,439 --> 01:24:43,120
Speaker 1: we're gonna you're gonna move the ball on us, but

1657
01:24:43,160 --> 01:24:44,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to hold you to field goals and

1658
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: then when we get an opportunity, we're gonna try to

1659
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,920
Speaker 1: force the turnover and put up points on the other way.

1660
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 1: And you know, they have five touchdown you know, they

1661
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,479
Speaker 1: have five defensive touchdowns in the last twelve quarters, which

1662
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:59,320
Speaker 1: is kind of unheard of. So it's working right now

1663
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:01,320
Speaker 1: for him and he fit in giving him that big

1664
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 1: play capability. All right, Jeff, good stuff. I know a

1665
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 1: lot of people are gonna be watching this game on

1666
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:07,640
Speaker 1: Sunday where they can get it. Are What are some

1667
01:25:07,720 --> 01:25:09,479
Speaker 1: of the top stories that you're working on heading into

1668
01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 1: Sunday's game. Well, I think you know, it's unavoidable, the

1669
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:19,080
Speaker 1: whole Deshaun Watson Lamar Jackson matchup, and my colleague Aaron

1670
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:22,760
Speaker 1: Reese and I from the from the Athletic or kind

1671
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:26,920
Speaker 1: of working in tandem on a story about them. And

1672
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 1: you know, again, I Deshaun Watson is phenomenal. So I

1673
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: think everybody is pretty excited to see the quarterback matchup.

1674
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 1: But I mean, he has every right to be considered

1675
01:25:37,280 --> 01:25:39,720
Speaker 1: as a top MVP candidate right now with all the

1676
01:25:39,760 --> 01:25:43,919
Speaker 1: talk about Russell Wilson and Jackson and even McCaffrey, Watson's

1677
01:25:43,960 --> 01:25:46,200
Speaker 1: got to be right up there and you know, among

1678
01:25:46,280 --> 01:25:48,960
Speaker 1: the top. That's certainly how the Ravens are treating him.

1679
01:25:49,680 --> 01:25:51,960
Speaker 1: And I'm also you know, I'm working on a story

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Speaker 1: about the Ravens right guard Marshall Yonda, who's kind of

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Speaker 1: developed these an older player who was very close to

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Speaker 1: Joe Flower and he's sort of embraced Lamar Jackson and

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Speaker 1: become a leader on this team. And he's you know,

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Speaker 1: a lot of talk he's going to retire at the

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Speaker 1: end of this year, but he seems to be having

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Speaker 1: the time of his life. And you're really enjoying kind

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Speaker 1: of how the Ravens are playing. So it's gonna be

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Speaker 1: a fun week. We're already here and how much media

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Speaker 1: is going to be out at the Ravens complex this week,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of excitement about their games, as

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Speaker 1: there should be. These are two of the top teams

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Speaker 1: in the AFC. They have two sighting talented young quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: and uh, you know other a lot of other talented

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Speaker 1: players across both sides of the ball. Yeah, we're definitely

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it, and we've had more than a

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Speaker 1: week to think about it and watch the Ravens and

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Speaker 1: get really excited to see these two quarterbacks and these

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Speaker 1: two teams go ahead to hit. Jeff, thank you so much,

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Speaker 1: Jeff Raeback. He's a senior staff writer for the Athletic

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Speaker 1: Up in Baltimore covering the Ravens. Jeff, appreciate the time

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Speaker 1: and we'll see up in Baltimore. My pleasure. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me and safe travels here. That's gonna do it.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna put this Wednesday Texans All Access show in

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Speaker 1: the books. Shate you guys listening. We got plenty for

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Speaker 1: you the rest of the week. Mark we'll have All

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Speaker 1: Access for you tomorrow. I'll have it on Friday as

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Speaker 1: we get you ready for this gargantuan matchup on Sunday

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Speaker 1: against the Ravens. Thanks for listening, everybody. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: next time and as always, go Texans.