WEBVTT - Nerlens Noel is SUING Rich Paul

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of This League, we dissect the history

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<v Speaker 1>of one of the worst contract.

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<v Speaker 2>Blunders in the NBA history, Baby Neuralan's Noel.

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<v Speaker 1>Not a name that casual sports fans really think about

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<v Speaker 1>all that much, But there was a lot of greed

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<v Speaker 1>that got us to this place, a lot of bad

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<v Speaker 1>decisions that got us to this place. And now we

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<v Speaker 1>have some brand new tea that makes this something that

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<v Speaker 1>we discuss right here on the episode.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a wild fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Story, how it started, how it is, and how it's

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<v Speaker 1>about to finish. Probably gonna cost someone their job, probably

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<v Speaker 1>gonna cost someone their business, Probably gonna cost someone almost

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred million dollars. Marty, do me a favor and

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<v Speaker 1>drop the fucking beating.

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<v Speaker 2>To take care and said.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll be waiting for.

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<v Speaker 4>Quan never got the queen and if go, let me go.

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<v Speaker 2>So Dennis Shrewder.

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<v Speaker 1>Made a bad decision. But before there was Dennis Shrewder,

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<v Speaker 1>there was Neurlin's. Now. So for those who don't remember,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of people who don't remember, twenty seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>Nerlin's Noel turned down four years, seventy million dollars from

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<v Speaker 1>the MAVs. He was like yeah, yeah, I'm a bet

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<v Speaker 1>on myself. And just like shrewder Neurlin's Noel got injured.

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<v Speaker 1>Well actually Den Schruder didn't get injured, but they both

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<v Speaker 1>lost a lot of money.

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<v Speaker 2>Nerlans Noel injured his thumb. He sprained his thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he ended up not getting that deal from

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<v Speaker 1>the MAVs, and then he ended up going from place

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<v Speaker 1>to place to place on a bunch of minimum deals.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody around is a cautionary tale, and everybody around

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<v Speaker 1>was kind of like, wow, either him or his agent

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<v Speaker 1>made a massive miscalculation. Turns out it was actually something much.

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<v Speaker 2>More nefarious, and this is the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Paul is a snake, That's what really it is

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<v Speaker 1>in a nutshell.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean this blew my mind.

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<v Speaker 5>Like I've said, like for years, like how did he

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<v Speaker 5>not like sue his agent for malpractice or like what?

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<v Speaker 5>And I know we're like getting like towards like what

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<v Speaker 5>this story turns into, but the fact that Rich Paul

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<v Speaker 5>was involved in this just blew this story.

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<v Speaker 6>Like this is like my dream, my dream too.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like it's like nerd T Like this is NBA

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<v Speaker 1>Nerd fucking tea. So it's like for US basketball fans.

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<v Speaker 1>This is this is it, baby, This is the onions.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the curtain. We get, we get a little

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<v Speaker 1>peak behind the curtain, the dirty ass business that is

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<v Speaker 1>the NBA. All right, At this point, for your seventy

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<v Speaker 1>million dollars gets offered to Neurlins Noel. He is being

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<v Speaker 1>represented by my guy, full disclosure, friend of the show,

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<v Speaker 1>Happy Walters. Happy Walters is like, YO, take that money,

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<v Speaker 1>take that money, then Neurlans Noel.

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<v Speaker 6>Of course.

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<v Speaker 1>The best part of this Nerlin's Noel goes to the

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<v Speaker 1>Simmons's birthday party, Yes, Yes, goes to Ben Simmons's birthday party,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and sees Rich Paul and Rich Paul fucking poaches.

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<v Speaker 2>Neurlin's no Weel tells him to turn that deal down.

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<v Speaker 2>Why does he tell him to turn it down?

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<v Speaker 1>Because that money goes to Happy Walters Because it's.

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<v Speaker 2>The end of that contract.

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<v Speaker 1>So you signed deals with agents for a certain period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, and if you signed a new deal at

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<v Speaker 1>that point in time, then the entire duration of that deal,

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<v Speaker 1>the four years, all that commission goes to Happy. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you wait extra year and your contract expires and

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<v Speaker 1>you have a new agent, then that new agent gets

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<v Speaker 1>all the forward.

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<v Speaker 2>Commission, not the old agent.

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<v Speaker 1>So that is why Rich Paul said, hey, homie, bet

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<v Speaker 1>on yourself. You're a hundred million dollar man, and I

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<v Speaker 1>can get you one hundred million dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>And listen, that sounds like a lot of extra money, a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot of extra money compared to the Denis Shruder turning

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<v Speaker 1>down at like three million, thinking he would get three million.

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<v Speaker 2>Dollars more a year. This is like a whole other thing.

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<v Speaker 1>This is like ten ten to eight to ten million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars extra year.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, thirty in total, thirty and total quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 1>So now Neurlan Noel is fucking suing Rich Paul, being like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you gave me bad advice, and then once I hurt myself,

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<v Speaker 1>you stopped fielding calls all together on my behalf, which

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<v Speaker 1>is even.

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<v Speaker 2>More fucked up.

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<v Speaker 6>Right, yeah, exactly, this is what he said.

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<v Speaker 1>Nerleans, Noel just filed a suit against Rich Paul for

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<v Speaker 1>quote unquote misleading and neglecting him while he was a client.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Darren Heidner, who's a scumbag on the sports

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<v Speaker 1>agent blog, Noel alleges that Paul misled and neglected him

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<v Speaker 1>when he was a client of Clutch Sports before even

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<v Speaker 1>developing an official partnership. So again, shady as fuck. Rich

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<v Speaker 1>Paul told Noel twenty seven free agency that he was

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred million dollar man, which led Noel to not

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<v Speaker 1>only leaving the agent, Happy Walters, but also turning down

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<v Speaker 1>four year, seventy million dollar offer from the Dallas Mavericks

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<v Speaker 1>to accept a qualifying offer. When Noel battled injuries the

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<v Speaker 1>following season, his value cratered no shit, But according to

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<v Speaker 1>the act accusations, Paul never tried to redeem his client.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, imagine getting talked out of leaving a

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<v Speaker 1>respected guy like Happy Walters.

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<v Speaker 2>And at this point Rich Paul wasn't as big of

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<v Speaker 2>as he is now twenty seventeen.

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<v Speaker 6>No, he was creeping up there, but wasn't on the

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<v Speaker 6>cover of magazines.

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<v Speaker 1>No, So you leave a respected guy who literally has

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<v Speaker 1>been in the business twenty five years.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the creed like he is the impetus.

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<v Speaker 1>The catalyst to Happy gilmore like Happy as an institution.

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<v Speaker 1>And he's like, yo, I can get you seventy million dollars,

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<v Speaker 1>just take it right.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, which is an insane deal to get for a

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<v Speaker 5>center in twenty seventeen, like teams knew, I mean smart

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<v Speaker 5>teams knew that the center position is becoming less and

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<v Speaker 5>less valuable.

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<v Speaker 6>And he got you seventy million from Mark Cuban.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, and you say not yes, thank you, but no thank.

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<v Speaker 6>You, Like that's a sick deal that he was able

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<v Speaker 6>to swindle.

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<v Speaker 1>Great, great deal, happy like good work, nice work, happy, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Like can we just for happy because that deal was insane.

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<v Speaker 2>Neurlin's then, as some people remember, sprained his thumb.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So then at this point, Rich Paul just ignores

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<v Speaker 1>his existence. Teams are calling and they're all was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>how come I'm not getting any new deals?

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<v Speaker 2>Like you said I was one hundred million dollar man,

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it comes out like teams are reaching out to

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Paul to try to do a couple year deals

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<v Speaker 1>two years, this, two years, and Rich Paul just is

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<v Speaker 1>refusing to answer the phone. Teams are now calling Neuralins

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<v Speaker 1>Noel and being like, I can't reach your agent. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>scummy scummy forty from seventy million dollars to four million

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<v Speaker 1>dollars because Rich Paul didn't want some other agent to

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<v Speaker 1>get the commission.

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<v Speaker 2>God damn, he's a scumbag. That is a scumbag. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't care how many good things he's done for the community.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how many things he's done for Lebron,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care how many good things he's done for

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<v Speaker 1>other athletes.

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<v Speaker 2>That is a fucking scumbag. Move.

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<v Speaker 6>Now, you can't screw over your clients. No, no, you can't.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, you shouldn't be poaching other people's clients

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a contract negotiation.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, especially when he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Got a good deal which is very obviously a sweetheart

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<v Speaker 1>deal for Mark Cuban, who is not known to do

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of a deal, right, and then all of

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<v Speaker 1>a sudden just pretend.

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<v Speaker 2>Just ghost him. Fuck, what does all this mean? I

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<v Speaker 2>think Rich Paul is going to have to pay up?

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I mean there's a bunch of legal like shit

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<v Speaker 5>that I don't like fully understand, but definitely seems like

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<v Speaker 5>he isn't the wrong And.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is what the lawsuit states.

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<v Speaker 1>The belief was that Paul and Clutch Sports were only

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<v Speaker 1>focused on serving their marquee clients and did not have

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<v Speaker 1>the capacity to provide competent service to their other clients,

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<v Speaker 1>such as Noel or other players like Norris Cole Shabazmuhammad

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<v Speaker 1>as as additional examples, both out.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the league, both out of the league. What does

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<v Speaker 2>that say?

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<v Speaker 1>What that says is, if you're a Rich Paul, you

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<v Speaker 1>hire other agents underneath you to serve those B level guys.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't just fucking ignore them.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, don't think young and up and coming players aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to see this and be like fuck that. As

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<v Speaker 1>it turns out, If it turns out that these accusations

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<v Speaker 1>are true, I think he's gonna need to lock down

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<v Speaker 1>a Dell pretty much right away because you lose one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred million dollars and you you become a trophy husband

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<v Speaker 1>fan like you need to just support her and her endeavors,

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<v Speaker 1>because holy.

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<v Speaker 2>Shit, here's a little here's a little.

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<v Speaker 1>Like story about So now more details come out about

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<v Speaker 1>why Nerlens Noel decided to sue Rich Paul to begin with,

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<v Speaker 1>because this is where it gets crazy. So Nerleans Noel

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<v Speaker 1>gets that first deal from the New York Knicks, that

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<v Speaker 1>first one year, five million dollar deal, and a guy

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<v Speaker 1>who has been largely not servicing his client says to Neuralans,

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<v Speaker 1>you owe me to under grant for that commission. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>still still your agent, and Nerlins Noel was like, I

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<v Speaker 1>got this deal.

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<v Speaker 2>You did nothing. You literally talked to no one.

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<v Speaker 1>The Knicks reached out to me, I did this deal,

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<v Speaker 1>not you, And rich Paul's like, no, no, I'm filing

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<v Speaker 1>a grievance against you for that money.

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<v Speaker 2>Greed is a hell of a drug.

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it.

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<v Speaker 1>Neurlans Noel might not have ever suit him if it

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<v Speaker 1>weren't for that. Nolan's Noel has dropped. Rich Paul is

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<v Speaker 1>no longer dealing with him at all. And this guy

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<v Speaker 1>still wants that fucking commission because he signed into that

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<v Speaker 1>long term deal and is still.

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<v Speaker 2>Contractually obligated to get that money.

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<v Speaker 1>And so instead of Neurlean's Noel paying Matt two hundred thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>he decides to counter see him and he's like, no, no.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, you owe me fifty eight million dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna let this shit slide because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's all about energy of the universe.

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<v Speaker 6>But fuck you.

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<v Speaker 2>That happened to me.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, I had an agent try to take

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<v Speaker 1>commission that he didn't deserve. When I came to Barschool,

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<v Speaker 1>I got this so I had an agent at Uta.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is J. B. Fitzgerald and calling out names.

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<v Speaker 2>So Matt uta with him and he ends up so.

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<v Speaker 1>I end up signing with him when I'm at USA

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<v Speaker 1>today and he's trying to get me and I'm non exclusive,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not under contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I could leave it anytime.

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<v Speaker 1>And he legitimately was pitching his other clients over me,

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<v Speaker 1>to other companies like ESPN or Bacher Report or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>and he would tell me all this bullshit about how

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<v Speaker 1>like I wasn't the type of client that they were

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<v Speaker 1>looking for. And I found out from all these other

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<v Speaker 1>companies after the fact that he was never pitching me

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<v Speaker 1>to begin with.

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<v Speaker 6>Damn.

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<v Speaker 1>So then I ended up getting this job myself and

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<v Speaker 1>negotiating the deal myself.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he asked for.

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<v Speaker 1>Ten percent, and I was like, you know what, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>out you deserve not a goddamn thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You are a snake.

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<v Speaker 1>You lied to my face, and I'm always like a

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<v Speaker 1>baby version of neuralans Noel. And then like, greed is

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a drug man, Greed Now Rich Paul's

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<v Speaker 1>name is getting dragged through the mud. My question for you,

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<v Speaker 1>Marty is if you're a new person coming into the league,

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<v Speaker 1>new player, and you see all of this about Rich Paul,

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<v Speaker 1>do you still sign with them?

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<v Speaker 5>I demand serious answers about what went down here and

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<v Speaker 5>need some provision in my contract, like I need this

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<v Speaker 5>amount of FaceTime with you, I need this amount of reassurance.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm definitely pushing hard and honestly like me already like

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<v Speaker 5>probably would have gone in a different direction than Clutch

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<v Speaker 5>just to begin with, Like that's not really like my

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<v Speaker 5>style of how I want to be represented. But yeah, no,

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<v Speaker 5>I think it hurts. I think it definitely hurts. Maybe

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<v Speaker 5>not with the like superstar like big name guys, but

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<v Speaker 5>for guys that are maybe you know, like mid first

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<v Speaker 5>round picks to late first round picks, Like yeah, I'm

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<v Speaker 5>thinking long and hard about signing with Clutch, even.

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<v Speaker 1>Like a Nurkish, even current clients that have him as

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<v Speaker 1>your agent. You just have to think to yourself, like god, damn,

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<v Speaker 1>I need to call Neurlans Noel and find out what

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<v Speaker 1>the deal was. Yeah, yikes. More to come on this story.

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<v Speaker 1>this leak.

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<v Speaker 4>The figure they come on, how they fall. It's time

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<v Speaker 4>to risk it all. Say hello to the big dog,

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<v Speaker 4>say goodbye to all the falls. Keep it a hunt

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<v Speaker 4>and keep it on honey, and keep it a down

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<v Speaker 4>out of certain people so that we don't allow no no,

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<v Speaker 4>no bowl pole, No no.

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<v Speaker 3>No bowl pole. You a slow pole, all black hog?

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<v Speaker 3>It would stay. Who come the best?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm the best case closed rock, count rock.

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<v Speaker 6>I ain't no Joe, give me that.

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<v Speaker 3>Give me that you mean he give me that? Give

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<v Speaker 3>me that, give me that. I want this and now

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<v Speaker 3>what you mean? I can't have that?

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<v Speaker 4>Stay your lane, lor, it's lane a skirt stirred on him.

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<v Speaker 4>Stay your lame, Penny lad a skirt skirt on them.

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<v Speaker 3>Big big, big big dog, big doll, big dog, walk in,

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<v Speaker 3>big dog, walk in with the doll.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a risk it all. I'm a risk it all.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a risk it all. A big big, big big dog,

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<v Speaker 4>wake dog, big dog walk in, big dog.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay with the dog doll. I'm a risk it all.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a risk it all. I'm a risk it all. Ooh,

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<v Speaker 3>you got a risk it just to get a biscuit?

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<v Speaker 6>Biscuit?

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<v Speaker 3>How many licks does it take the liquor?

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<v Speaker 4>She wont a liquor trapper, but she already to lickt

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<v Speaker 4>a rapper. Oh my, oh my, so fly, so fly six,

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<v Speaker 4>I stay fly, I stay fly wilde have to get by.

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<v Speaker 4>I want it all out a piece of the pie.

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody eats everybody, and we keep all of the receipts.

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<v Speaker 3>We good and we living good. We'd have made up

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<v Speaker 3>about the hood. Give me that, give me that, give

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<v Speaker 3>me akive me that, give me that, give me that

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<v Speaker 3>you that I want this and that what you mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I can't have that?

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<v Speaker 4>Stang a lane Lois Lena starts stirred on him. Stang

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<v Speaker 4>your lame, Penny Laider starts stirred on him. Big big,

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<v Speaker 4>big big dog, big doll, big dog, walk in.

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<v Speaker 3>Big dog, walk in with the dog. I'm anna risk

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<v Speaker 3>it all. I'm a risk it all. I'm a risk

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<v Speaker 3>it all. Allee.

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<v Speaker 4>Big big, big big dog with dog, big dog walk in,

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<v Speaker 4>big dog, walking with the dog.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna risk it all. I'm a risk it all.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a risk it all Lie