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Speaker 1: What's up team Today, I'm going to address what I've

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Speaker 1: learned over the last thirty years and how I finally

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton of the Clay and Buck Show. He's going

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Speaker 1: to talk about how the European Union is on the

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Speaker 1: This is the David Rutherford Show. When I was a kid,

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite books of all time was by

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Speaker 1: John Lewis Carroll was Alice in Wonderland. Now, before you

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Speaker 1: Alice in Wonderland? I was a kid, right, and what

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Speaker 1: I loved about it was the animation idea. I love

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Speaker 1: you know, dancing cards and talking rapits and by personal favorite,

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Speaker 1: that just goes to show you how much I love

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Speaker 1: this classic fairy tale, this classic children's story, because of

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Speaker 1: what it means. It means the proverbial fall down the

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Speaker 1: We have them when we're young, we have them when

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Speaker 1: journey down the rabbit hole. Obviously, so here I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm in my fourth year at college at Penn State University,

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Speaker 1: like I you know, I was an art major with

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Speaker 1: reading all these incredible works by Nietzsche, Kamu. I'm reading

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Speaker 1: these great storytellers of all time, and what is taking

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Speaker 1: And so very quickly did I find having my ass

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Speaker 1: Now fast forward where it jumped into hypers Hupper speed

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Speaker 1: the fact where she actually, i think just last week,

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Speaker 1: came out and said, listen, we're going to side with America.

432
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Speaker 1: We we that's where we want to be. And and

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Speaker 1: you know, for me, when you see this list and

434
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Speaker 1: it just keeps it keeps going, it makes me start

435
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Speaker 1: to try and understand what's at stake here.

436
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Speaker 4: Well, you know, think about this, right, the notion of nationalism.

437
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Speaker 2: Has somehow gotten a negative connotation for a long time.

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Speaker 4: Right to say that you're a nationalist, and really.

439
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Speaker 2: What we've grown up in, Dave, you know, your generation,

440
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Speaker 2: our generation is a world in which the ruling elites

441
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Speaker 2: have made this pitch to all of us, and not

442
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Speaker 2: even really a pitch. I've sort of demanded an obedience

443
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Speaker 2: a fewman to an idea. Yeah, demanded and forced it

444
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Speaker 2: on us is a much better way of putting it.

445
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Speaker 2: That you're not allowed to think about your nation as

446
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Speaker 2: something that is more than just an economic zone and

447
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Speaker 2: some series of treaties with other countries that you never

448
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Speaker 2: really get to weigh in on or understand.

449
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Speaker 4: Basically, just like shut up.

450
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Speaker 2: The adults are in charge, and the adults go to Davos,

451
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Speaker 2: and the adults go to the UN and they do

452
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Speaker 2: this stuff right, and you should never ask hold on

453
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Speaker 2: if I have obligations to the state, and if I

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Speaker 2: have a connection to my people, whether it's Americans in

455
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Speaker 2: our case, or Brazilians or the French, right, I mean

456
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Speaker 2: the Irish, the Irish? What does that mean in the

457
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Speaker 2: context of how I want my leadership to function, not

458
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Speaker 2: in this collectivist, in concert whatever all.

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Speaker 4: Of us together or decide right.

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Speaker 2: And so that that I think is a big part

461
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Speaker 2: of this is just the awakening that why should being

462
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Speaker 2: a you know, we could say patriotism right, right, How

463
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Speaker 2: is patriotism as an American different from nationalism? Like to

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Speaker 2: be a patriot as an American means you love. I mean,

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Speaker 2: you know, you were in combat zones, right, like you

466
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Speaker 2: picked up guns and said I will die if need

467
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Speaker 2: be for my country.

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Speaker 4: Well, you would have felt very differently, I think if

469
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Speaker 4: it was I will die if need be.

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Speaker 2: Because some EU bureaucrats in Brussels say that it would

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Speaker 2: be worthwhile for me to be engaged in like you know, the.

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Speaker 1: Most in Ukraine, right, or I'm sitting there going to

473
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Speaker 1: church with my family and a little mini van walks

474
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Speaker 1: up with a bunch of dudes in multicam. Right. They

475
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Speaker 1: come in, yake me out and stuck me in that van.

476
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Speaker 1: Next thing I know, I'm in the drenches three weeks later,

477
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Speaker 1: after getting trained by a bunch of you know, French

478
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Speaker 1: soldiers or euse or British soldiers now out of Poland,

479
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Speaker 1: and and it's it's it's almost and to go back

480
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Speaker 1: to what you were chatting about in terms of that

481
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Speaker 1: collective oppression, right, if we can, we're in charge, we're

482
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Speaker 1: forcing the hand. You guys just recognize that this is

483
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Speaker 1: we're we're a melting pot, that whole idea. We're gonna,

484
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Speaker 1: we're gonna, We're gonna, We're gonna generate a new patriotism,

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Speaker 1: a new loyalty that's to the greater sovereignty of a

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Speaker 1: European Union, right uh, an American Union, right, uh, an

487
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Speaker 1: African Union. And I think what's really got me and

488
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Speaker 1: what really scared me in the last you know, two weeks,

489
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Speaker 1: really was watching you know, Marcone and Starmer come out

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Speaker 1: and and and really help Zelenski, who, by the way,

491
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Speaker 1: has shut down all opposition. Barty hasn't had an election.

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Speaker 1: The whole deal we know that, but has now now

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Speaker 1: they're coming into sabotage or torpedo, you know, the the

494
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Speaker 1: negotiations going on with with Rubio in the State Department,

495
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Speaker 1: because there's saying, no, we're ready to put some boots

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Speaker 1: on the ground. Do you believe is that an idle

497
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Speaker 1: thread or do you think there's any validation to those

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Speaker 1: what they're suggesting they're going to do.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't say it's idle. I would say it's improbable.

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Speaker 2: But they've realized that that's the position that they have

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Speaker 2: to publicly take because people, I mean, I've been saying

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Speaker 2: this very openly on radio and just saying this for

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Speaker 2: a long time. And first of all, when this whole

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Speaker 2: war broke out, and I'm meaning in the very first

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Speaker 2: days and the Russian advance, you know, stall they didn't

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Speaker 2: take Kiev or Kiev whatever.

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Speaker 4: I remember saying.

508
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Speaker 2: I was like, people are going to underestimate the Russian military,

509
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Speaker 2: the Russian industrial complex, and.

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Speaker 4: The will of both Putin and those.

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Speaker 2: Who support him, which is far more substantial inside of

512
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Speaker 2: Russia than what.

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Speaker 4: You're led to believe in the West.

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Speaker 2: Putin's popularity is far higher than anybody who just reads

515
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Speaker 2: the New York Times would think. And I know they

516
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Speaker 2: say he's a dictator and he doesn't have real election

517
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Speaker 2: and everything else.

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Speaker 4: People like him.

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Speaker 2: A lot of Russians actually like him and support him

520
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Speaker 2: and think that he stands up for Russian interest, That

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Speaker 2: he is a Russian nationalist. Now isn't interesting even me

522
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Speaker 2: just saying that, because the way they try to the

523
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Speaker 2: way our own media and honestly, not just Democrats, a

524
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Speaker 2: lot of Republicans try to frame this issue, it's you're

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Speaker 2: a Putin apologist, you know. I'm just describing the same

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Speaker 2: way if I was an agency analyst, and I was,

527
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Speaker 2: you know, back in the day at the CIA, right,

528
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Speaker 2: and if I was writing up an assessment of this,

529
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Speaker 2: I'd be like, we can think whatever we want about Putin.

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Speaker 2: What's the truth of his support inside his own country?

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Speaker 2: And people who were saying he was going to be ousted,

532
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Speaker 2: his economy was going to be in tatters, the ruble

533
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Speaker 2: was going to be destroyed.

534
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Speaker 4: Delusional.

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Speaker 2: None of that has happened, Okay, I mean none of them,

536
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Speaker 2: None of it and that's.

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Speaker 4: What we were told in the beginning.

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Speaker 2: So the people who knew so much were wrong about everything.

539
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Speaker 4: This war has been grinding on.

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Speaker 2: It's effectively, as you and I know, trench warfare, I

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Speaker 2: mean literally in trenches.

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Speaker 4: But they've got drones and there's been a.

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Speaker 1: Little sprinkling of modern technology that that makes it scary

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Speaker 1: as hell, right.

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean they've got they've got drones that are

546
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Speaker 2: flying in and blowing people up and dropping grenades on

547
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Speaker 2: them and obviously use a lot for just surveillance too,

548
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Speaker 2: for the spotting. Right, So now to do the spotting

549
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Speaker 2: for the old school artillery like World War one, World

550
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Speaker 2: War two style artillery.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I know it's more advanced now.

552
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Speaker 2: But the I mean the basic ballistics, it's you know,

553
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Speaker 2: fire a big shell that goes boom.

554
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Speaker 4: But they can do the spotting and.

555
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Speaker 2: The assessing of of what the targets are using drones

556
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Speaker 2: and satellites and sophisticated technology. So but you're in the

557
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Speaker 2: same place, which is okay, we're in a war of

558
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Speaker 2: attrition effectively along a front with more advanced technology, but

559
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Speaker 2: the actual battlefield lines look very similar to what they

560
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Speaker 2: would have in different parts of of the you know,

561
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Speaker 2: the First World War where we think of trench warfare

562
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Speaker 2: as originating actually originated in the Boer Wars. You and

563
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Speaker 2: I know it's a whole other thing in South Africa,

564
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Speaker 2: but uh, you know, I.

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Speaker 4: Can't let me just go.

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Speaker 1: I want to step in on that a little bit

567
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Speaker 1: because one of the interesting things that for me is

568
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Speaker 1: as as now, I I don't know, I think ever

569
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Speaker 1: since I've seen this this shift or this focus, this

570
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Speaker 1: attack on this these nationalistic movements, right, I started saying, okay, well,

571
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Speaker 1: where have we seen this before? And if you do

572
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Speaker 1: go back and you start to think about the lead

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Speaker 1: up to World War One, right the lead up to

574
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Speaker 1: World War Two, there's there's some there's some similarities right

575
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Speaker 1: where out of these collective calamities, right these you know,

576
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Speaker 1: what is it, fourteen fifteen million people annihilated World War One,

577
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Speaker 1: and this this horrific entrenchment of just you know, supposed

578
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Speaker 1: superpowers and they're jockeying for position, you know, economically within

579
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Speaker 1: the structure of Europe and the emergence of all these

580
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Speaker 1: new industrial countries. And then you all of a sudden,

581
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Speaker 1: you know, you see the same thing start to take

582
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Speaker 1: place before World War two, where you start to see

583
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Speaker 1: this nationalism emerge, in particular as nationalism in Germany. Some nationalism, obviously,

584
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Speaker 1: a new nationalism emerged out of Russia right when they

585
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Speaker 1: got rid of the Czars, to to the tune of

586
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Speaker 1: Stalin and his crew. So I think, like you were,

587
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Speaker 1: what you were alluding to before, is the idea of

588
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Speaker 1: nationalism is if it's spun in the right way, in

589
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Speaker 1: the right context through propaganda, it actually becomes the enemy

590
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Speaker 1: that you need to generate this kind of nefarious advancement

591
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Speaker 1: of this Ukrainian Russian conflict. Do you think there's something

592
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Speaker 1: Are there similarities that you're seeing there too? Well?

593
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Speaker 2: I think that there's certainly been a tremendous focus on

594
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Speaker 2: suddenly on Ukrainian nationalism and Ukraine's borders at a time

595
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,200
Speaker 2: when other countries bored. Right, it's like we pick and

596
00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:46,800
Speaker 2: choose some countries are allowed to be nationalistic and others

597
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Speaker 2: are not. And it's not and you go, We'll hold

598
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Speaker 2: on a second. Either this can be virtuous across the

599
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Speaker 2: board for all nation states, or we're just not applying

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Speaker 2: any sound principles in the case of Ukraine. Like you

601
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Speaker 2: can see all these Americans generally Democrats, not all. There's

602
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Speaker 2: some Republicans too with Ukrainian flags. I mean, these people

603
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 2: couldn't find Ukraine on a map a couple of years ago,

604
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 2: and probably some of them still couldn't if you just

605
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Speaker 2: erased all the names. And yet they are Slava Ukraine

606
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Speaker 2: and they think that this is the most important battle

607
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Speaker 2: that the world is facing right now. And this is

608
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: going on at a time when the interest in our

609
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 2: own southern border and the dissolution, the effective dissolution of

610
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 2: border controls in a lot of EU countries. Certainly here

611
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Speaker 2: in the United States we had ten million plus illegals

612
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Speaker 2: in a four year span under Biden. So on the

613
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Speaker 2: one hand, the borders of Ukraine are inviolate, and the

614
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Speaker 2: notion that they should give up any territory they've already

615
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Speaker 2: given up Crimea. I mean, this has already been happening,

616
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,920
Speaker 2: right The notion that they should give up any land

617
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Speaker 2: whatsoever is somehow a slap in the face to us,

618
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Speaker 2: never mind to Ukraine, like we're supposed to be so

619
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Speaker 2: outraged by this notion. Meanwhile, we have millions of people

620
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Speaker 2: coming into our country illegally who are a drain on

621
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Speaker 2: resources and a huge social and political challenge for the future.

622
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Speaker 2: And the same people, right, and the same people who

623
00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: care so much about Ukraine, they care a lot more

624
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Speaker 2: about Ukraine's borders and they care about US borders.

625
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Speaker 4: And and people could say.

626
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Speaker 2: Oh, well, you know, we can walk in cho gum

627
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 2: and those are different things. No, because when you're talking

628
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 2: about nation state interests and nationalism, right, it's just the

629
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Speaker 2: fact you talk about.

630
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Speaker 4: Nationalism, people go, oh, what is that.

631
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Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's a book by I think it's

632
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Speaker 2: Urama Hoozoni the Virtue of nationalism that goes into how

633
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Speaker 2: states the same way that people taking care of them

634
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Speaker 2: like like you know this Dave, right, Like if you're

635
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: a hit and there are other people who are hit,

636
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:38,080
Speaker 2: like you've got to stop your bleed first, right, I mean,

637
00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 2: you're not helping anybody. I mean David's canceal. You know,

638
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,200
Speaker 2: you got to look to number one before you can

639
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:49,200
Speaker 2: be that you know, overwatch that assistance, that that life

640
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,359
Speaker 2: saver to those around you. And I think that, you know,

641
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 2: put simply like America needs a lot more me time

642
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: and a lot less And this is why also the

643
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Speaker 2: USA i D defunding that's gone on has been.

644
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,479
Speaker 4: So popular broadly, especially the Trump movement.

645
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 2: I think more generally, it's like, why are we funding

646
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 2: this stuff all over the place?

647
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,320
Speaker 4: People say, oh, but what about this thing there?

648
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Speaker 1: There?

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Speaker 4: So a hold on a second.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of needs in this country and

651
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Speaker 2: we're not the country is not supposed to be run.

652
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Speaker 2: Our treasury is not a global welfare program. And even

653
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Speaker 2: if that's a small contingent of it, I think there's

654
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Speaker 2: enough people who see that as first of all, you know,

655
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Speaker 2: we got thirty six trillion dollars in debt. I mean

656
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Speaker 2: that's madness. But beyond that, like where's the stop and start?

657
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Speaker 2: And just one other thing to Dave, I think you're

658
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Speaker 2: asking about the nationalism component of this. I think that

659
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Speaker 2: and these leaders we are being banned one issue, the

660
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Speaker 2: borders issue, actually matters a whole lot, because what unites

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Speaker 2: a lot of these parties, especially in the europe and

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Speaker 2: an American context, is hold on a second. We are

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Speaker 2: a people, We are not an economic zone, and we

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Speaker 2: can't just have unrestricted non you know, non US whatever

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Speaker 2: that means, like people from all the countries coming in

666
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Speaker 2: here in huge numbers, and.

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Speaker 4: I think that they're the.

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Speaker 2: Slow eradication of sovereignty for European countries and for America

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Speaker 2: is a huge part of the backlash against the the

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Speaker 2: elites that have been pushing this non nationalism, Oh we're

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Speaker 2: all collective is ideology. And I think that there's a

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Speaker 2: concern among them too that people are angry about this,

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Speaker 2: and the more they learn about it, the angrier they get,

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Speaker 2: because now they're seeing the results of mass migration to Sweden,

675
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Speaker 2: mass migration to Germany, mass illegal migration in the United

676
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Speaker 2: States not good. These are not good things, and the

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Speaker 2: people in charge promise es they'd be amazing.

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Speaker 1: All right, Buck, Just to wrap it up, well, you

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Speaker 1: just I got to hear your thoughts on the idea.

680
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Speaker 1: The idea that really I think for me and you

681
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Speaker 1: and people who are paying attention to this is the

682
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Speaker 1: NATO question. So if you get an opportunity to sit

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Speaker 1: in a room with Rubio and JD and the President,

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Speaker 1: you know, what do you tell them, like, what options

685
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Speaker 1: do we have? What is the kind of the go

686
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Speaker 1: no go criteria where we simply say, all right, that's it,

687
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Speaker 1: we're done. We're not doing that, We're not staying in NATO.

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Speaker 1: You put boots on the you know, Marcone puts boots

689
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Speaker 1: on the ground. Brits put boots on the ground, which

690
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Speaker 1: is kind of funny, But no offense Brits because I

691
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Speaker 1: fought with you. Some of you guys are super hard,

692
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Speaker 1: but probably has been a little while. But what do

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Speaker 1: you tell them that say, hey, we cannot go past

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Speaker 1: this and continue to lead down the potentiality of a

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Speaker 1: World War three? What are your thoughts you share with them?

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Speaker 2: Well, I have a lot of faith in this current team,

697
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Speaker 2: I'll tell you. And so I've been in the position

698
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Speaker 2: before where I feel like i'm you know, I consider

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Speaker 2: myself like a coach. Maybe I'm up in the stands

700
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Speaker 2: watch for the game, but coaching the Trump administration.

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Speaker 4: And I got a lot of.

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Speaker 2: Thoughts to make things go better with this national security

703
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Speaker 2: team and with how they're approaching things so far, I'm

704
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Speaker 2: doing a lot more clapping than I am criticizing. And

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00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: that's just the truth. I mean, I align with them

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Speaker 2: on this stuff. And some of these other folks, I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'm not even sure if Bridge Colby's gotten through yet

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Speaker 2: a DoD I've known Bridge for twenty years. The guy's

709
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Speaker 2: absolutely brilliant. Pete HEGGSAZ has been a friend for fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: He is dialed in Sean Parnell, a great friend, dialed

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Speaker 2: in at d D.

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Speaker 1: Joe Ken. Joe Kent's my favorite.

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Speaker 4: Who is Oh Joe Kent?

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Speaker 1: Yes, Joe Can.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you know you've got you've got smart guys,

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Speaker 2: war fighters, people that see it, you know, see it

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Speaker 2: through realistic eyes. So on the on the NATO piece,

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Speaker 2: I would just say, one, Trump getting NATO to commit

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Speaker 2: to more spending and prepare themselves.

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Speaker 4: You know it shouldn't be. Oh.

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Speaker 2: The only reason that that, you know, Germany's not going

722
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Speaker 2: to get invaded by Russia or Poland's not gonna get it,

723
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Speaker 2: you know, whatever, is because America is going to land

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Speaker 2: like eighty second.

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Speaker 4: Airborne and you know, we're going to kick their asses

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Speaker 4: or something.

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Speaker 2: They should be able to put up a substantial fight

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Speaker 2: themselves such that it's unthinkable that we would have the

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Speaker 2: kind of tumult, if you will, in Europe that we

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Speaker 2: saw in the twentieth century.

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Speaker 4: Right, So if we're.

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Speaker 2: Going to be in NATO, and I know there are

733
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Speaker 2: people that even have questions about whether that's worthwhile, we

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Speaker 2: should also be honest. I mean, NATO is an anti

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Speaker 2: Russia alliance. I mean, I remember when I was in Afghanistan.

736
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Speaker 2: It was a NATO mission and everybody there as you remember, people.

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Speaker 1: Remember the Saff everybody, Yeah, I bet we all wore

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Speaker 1: the eye Saff bad.

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Speaker 2: No one even really unless you were there. People don't

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Speaker 2: even pay attention to this. It was a NATO mission

741
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Speaker 2: in Afghanistan, which is like what and NATO is kind

742
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Speaker 2: of a almost a proto Ulan or something.

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Speaker 4: It makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: This is to stop Russia from you know, beating up

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Speaker 2: on and invading NATO members. Ukraine is not a NATO member,

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Speaker 2: and so I think that you know, the the Article

747
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Speaker 2: five of NATO, which is what would require the mutual

748
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Speaker 2: mutual defense.

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Speaker 4: You know, I think that as long as.

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Speaker 2: America is truly and as long as America is in

751
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 2: treaties where they say, if this happens.

752
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Speaker 4: We will do you know, we will do the following,

753
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Speaker 4: we do have to honor that.

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Speaker 2: I think that that's important, But I don't think that

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Speaker 2: we have to honor it forever, indefinitely without looking at

756
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Speaker 2: what are we really getting getting out of this. So

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00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 2: you know, the line in the sand is Article five.

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Speaker 2: It is the joint defense component of the treaties. You know,

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00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: treaties that we're involved in with NATO. But I also

760
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Speaker 2: think it's very clear. I mean, you know you know

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Speaker 2: this better than most, Dave. The lesson of twenty years

762
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Speaker 2: of war in the Middle East and South Asia is

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Speaker 2: you don't just send your guys and gals to fight

764
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Speaker 2: because you're fighting, and then you don't want to stop

765
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Speaker 2: the fighting because what we're you're fighting for and you know,

766
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Speaker 2: and that's where that's where people Ukraine is we see

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Speaker 2: that lesson through the lens of Ukraine.

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Speaker 4: I think in a very profound way.

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Speaker 1: Well, my whole thing is just to tie it up,

770
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Speaker 1: is you know, I mean I've got a lot of

771
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Speaker 1: dead friends, and you know now it's me looking at

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Speaker 1: their children in the face and saying, hey, you know,

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Speaker 1: your dad died for this very honorable thing, which was

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Speaker 1: you know, a twenty year war in Iraq which didn't

775
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: get us anywhere, or a twenty year war in Afghanistan

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Speaker 1: which now we're actually paying the taleband forty million dollars

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Speaker 1: a week. You know, I just and you look at

778
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Speaker 1: the numbers now and you look at I mean, what

779
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Speaker 1: anything from uh, you know, a million to a million

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Speaker 1: five from both Ukraine in Russia I just don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't see the American young men out there rogering up

782
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Speaker 1: and wanting to go to war to defend something that

783
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Speaker 1: quite frankly, you know, maybe shouldn't be defended in the

784
00:41:42,080 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: first place, on our on our Let somebody else take

785
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Speaker 1: the charge. And I'm and I'm not in isolations by

786
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: any strike. I do believe we need to project power

787
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Speaker 1: in order to maintain that that you know, uh, the

788
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 1: economic power and might that we are. But man, I

789
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: definitely don't want to see. You know, it's crazy. Is

790
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Speaker 1: there's this massive You've been following us too, I've been

791
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: watching you post about it, this massive increase in people

792
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Speaker 1: signing up for the military, and and I think it

793
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: has to do with Pete, right, and it has to

794
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: do with this change and this pride and the president

795
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Speaker 1: and come back, Yeah, I want to go serve. But

796
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Speaker 1: here's the thing, man, is is if you do this again, uh,

797
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: you know, it's gonna be it's gonna be a challenge

798
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Speaker 1: to get young men out there to roger up to

799
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Speaker 1: go die for some senseless war that fundamentally, as Americans

800
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Speaker 1: we don't support.

801
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Speaker 2: But well, I think for a lot of people, what

802
00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:39,600
Speaker 2: we see in Ukraine and what the Trump and with

803
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Speaker 2: the Trump view of it and the you know everybody

804
00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 2: who's voted for Trump is we learned a very painful

805
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: lesson as a country. Let's actually let's actually learn that

806
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: lesson and be and be clear on that, right. And

807
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:53,040
Speaker 2: that's why when you brought up you know, Starmer in

808
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:55,720
Speaker 2: the UK and these guys who are they're not sending

809
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: troops to go muzzle to muzzle with Russians, But they

810
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,239
Speaker 2: have to say that because if they won't say that,

811
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: then it's very clear that our side that's saying, what's

812
00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: the game plan here, guys, has the better end of

813
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 2: the argument, which is they have no game plan. The

814
00:43:08,040 --> 00:43:11,040
Speaker 2: game plan and game plan is status quo people getting

815
00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 2: chewed off on both sides and dying when we all

816
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 2: know that eventually it's just going to come down to

817
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,520
Speaker 2: where are the lines on the map drawn and who

818
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 2: gets control of what and then we all go back

819
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Speaker 2: to living our lives.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's where.

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Speaker 1: That's at one hundred percent. And I and I do

822
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Speaker 1: have a theory about immigration in the future of those

823
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,880
Speaker 1: wars and those battle lies, but let's talk about that another.

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Speaker 4: Time, brother, anytime.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Sorry that looks like I'm like a botanist here, but

827
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Speaker 2: you know, this is my makeshift studio.

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Speaker 4: So you know it's really very Miami. It's very Miami.

829
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Speaker 4: Behind me though, I.

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Speaker 1: Thought you were going to get on with some Lulu

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Speaker 1: Lemon or your a little uh, your little this is

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Speaker 1: this is Lulu.

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Speaker 4: I live in the Lulu, don't dude.

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Speaker 1: Of course, dude, I love it. God bless you, brother,

835
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: well Buck, thank you so much for for being our

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Speaker 1: first guest and all so, I can't tell you how

837
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: proud I am to be part of the Clay and

838
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: Buck podcast network. And just again, man, you are one

839
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:12,200
Speaker 1: of the greats out there, and your confidence in me

840
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Speaker 1: is overwhelming, and I just I can't thank you enough.

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Speaker 4: God bless man.

842
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 2: You're a dear friend, and I'm proud of you for

843
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:21,800
Speaker 2: stepping in here and starting a great, a great program.

844
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Speaker 2: And I know you're just going to do so well

845
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Speaker 2: with some of the people that are familiar with Claim Buck,

846
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Speaker 2: and you're going to build it out way beyond too,

847
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Speaker 2: so everybody wins. So thank you so much for answering

848
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Speaker 2: the call.

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Speaker 1: Awesome, God bless you, buddy. Take care.

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Speaker 2: Well.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, man, there are not many people

852
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Speaker 1: that can deliver succinct thoughts in a meaningful way like

853
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton did. Please, if you can, you know, reach

854
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Speaker 1: out and follow the Clay and Buck Show. It's one

855
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 1: of the best conservative podcasts and radio shows in the world.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they are delivering it day in and day out,

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Speaker 1: really at the at the tip of the spear. They

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Speaker 1: have great guests, they have great people on on a

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Speaker 1: regular basis. Hell, I mean, Clay was just playing golf

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00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 1: with the President last week, so they are definitely connected

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Speaker 1: at the highest level. So give them a shout and again,

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Speaker 1: UH to you, Clay and Buckman. I'm so happy to

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Speaker 1: be a part of your network. It's a dream come

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Speaker 1: true for Jordi and I. We just really appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: all right, you as a listener, I just we can't

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Speaker 1: thank you enough. We really feel privileged me in particular,

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