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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George Nori

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Speaker 1: with you. Let's bring in Bill Douglas, author of The

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Speaker 1: Gospel of Science and as the founder of the World

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Speaker 1: Healing Day, which is a global educational event held every

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Speaker 1: year in more than eighty nations, recognized by twenty two

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Speaker 1: US governors and government bodies, and many nations around the world.

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Speaker 1: He was the two thousand nine inductee to the World

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Speaker 1: Internal Arts Hall of Fame in New York. Is award

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Speaker 1: winning author of six books on personal and global transformation,

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Speaker 1: and Bill has been a mind body meditation source for

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Speaker 1: media worldwide. Welcome to the program, Bill, looking forward to

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Speaker 1: this tonight. Hi, George, thanks for having me. Tell me

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Speaker 1: a little bit about the organization you put together. The

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Speaker 1: founder of the World Healing Day. Yes, World Healing Day

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Speaker 1: started twenty years ago as World tai Chie Day, World

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Speaker 1: tai Chi Days. Tai Chi is a Chinese meditative practice,

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Speaker 1: and and then it quickly expanded to become World tai

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Speaker 1: Chi and Chigung Day, and then events around the world.

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Speaker 1: It just it just captured the world's imagination and it

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Speaker 1: just spread like a wildfire. And it's as you said,

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Speaker 1: it celebrated eighty nations, and so in a lot of

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Speaker 1: the events, there were other kinds of mind body practices

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Speaker 1: that were being shared in these public events that are

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Speaker 1: held all around the world the last Saturday of April

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Speaker 1: each year, and so meditation and yoga and different kinds

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Speaker 1: then it became a larger event that we call World

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Speaker 1: Healing Day, and the goal of it is to educate

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Speaker 1: the planet about the really profound and amazing research on

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Speaker 1: these mind body practices that are now being taught in

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Speaker 1: virtually every country around the world. Did you expect to

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Speaker 1: be able to take off the way it did? Not? Really? Uh,

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Speaker 1: The way that it started was that we were see

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Speaker 1: when I first starred. When I when I started learning

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Speaker 1: nobody had really heard about this stuff that much. This

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Speaker 1: seems to me right now, Bill, this is just my

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Speaker 1: And I can't put my finger on it. I've been

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Speaker 1: a period where I've seen more people uptight, unhappy, bitter,

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Speaker 1: But in my lifetime, we've almost quadrupled the number of

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Speaker 1: of other research that's coming out. Tell us a little

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