1 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: How's it going, everybody. Welcome back to Cardinal Territory. As 2 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:12,879 Speaker 1: you see, we don't have Jim Hayes, so it is myself, 3 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:15,600 Speaker 1: Kyle Gibson, and Lance Lynn here with me today and 4 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: we've got hopefully a good episode for you. 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 2: We'll see how this flows without Jim. 6 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 3: Lance. 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 1: You know, there's some things that might be a little 8 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,319 Speaker 1: bit different. But the first thing I can tell you 9 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: right off the shoot, we don't have a Jim Hayes 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: beg right, So if you want to like and subscribe, 11 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:33,600 Speaker 1: go for it. We appreciate you all listening, you know. 12 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: If not, that's obviously up to you guys. But with 13 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,320 Speaker 1: no gym here, you know, it's just Lance and we're 14 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,400 Speaker 1: gonna dial it back a little bit. 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's beneath us. Jenkin beg when he gets back, 16 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 4: that's his that's his skid, that's it. 17 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 1: I really do think that's his thing. He really enjoys that. 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna start with WBC talk right off the top here. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,320 Speaker 1: But as you guys know, Fox Sports one, Fox one, 20 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,760 Speaker 1: excuse me, has been your home for all coverage. 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But Lance, 31 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 1: what a game yesterday. The US is in the finals. 32 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: Two heavy hitters clashed in the semi final. I think 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: everybody going into it was probably looking forward to a 34 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,600 Speaker 1: USA Japan matchup again, just to see. 35 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 2: How that would play out. 36 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: I didn't realize that they couldn't be on the same 37 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 1: side of the bracket. I saw somebody from another show 38 00:01:51,840 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: say that from the get go, if they both made 39 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 1: it through pool play, they had to be on opposite sides, 40 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: which is interesting. But now I think the d are 41 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: in US were probably playing some of the best baseball 42 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,920 Speaker 1: and maybe the most name heavy teams. What are your 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on that game last night? 44 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 3: I thought it was a beautiful game. 45 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 4: I think well pitched for the most part, well you 46 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,520 Speaker 4: have three solo homers was all the scoring. So uh, 47 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 4: I thought, to be honest with these schemes, didn't throw 48 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,640 Speaker 4: the ball the way that I think that you know, 49 00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 4: you're used to seeing the mid season form. I think 50 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 4: you know little, you know, mistakes with the high breaking 51 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 4: ball for the home run, you know. But all in 52 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,320 Speaker 4: all is the you know, well defensive played, you know, 53 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 4: well pitched, you know, a couple of solo home runs 54 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,600 Speaker 4: on the American side to help, you know, help win, 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 4: especially coming from you know, kind of the younger guys, right, 56 00:02:40,080 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 4: so that's huge for America. You see the younger guys 57 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:44,920 Speaker 4: stepping up and hitting home runs here, and it's not 58 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 4: just the judges and the sharers and the harpers of 59 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 4: the world. It's you know, it's the young, the young 60 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:53,119 Speaker 4: group coming through. And then, like you said, the two 61 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 4: heavy hitters that are that are kind of left right, 62 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 4: and then I think Venezuela will be the next one. 63 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: But you know, we'll get into tonight. They're playing Italy, 64 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 4: and Italy seems to beat everybody right now, so it's 65 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 4: kind of wild to see how how it was breaking down. 66 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 3: But all in all, I. 67 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 4: Think, you know, Venezuela playing Japan and losing, you know, 68 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 4: in that round, and then you know us playing the 69 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 4: dr to you know, to advance on this side. I 70 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:21,519 Speaker 4: think it's like, all in all, been pretty fun and 71 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,800 Speaker 4: kind of lined up the way you kind of thought 72 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 4: it would maybe except Japan winning. 73 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 3: And being in that game tonight. 74 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:29,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 75 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: You know, a really good point you have there about 76 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 1: the young guys, you know, doing their thing. As I'm 77 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: looking at the box score here, I don't know if 78 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 1: you ever faced Room and Anthony, but I think that's 79 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: a guy I didn't get a face towards the end 80 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: of my career. You see what he's done. I know 81 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: everybody in Boston and there's been some people around the 82 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 1: league that have talked about how quality of a. 83 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 2: Player he is. 84 00:03:49,040 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: But man hitting three eighteen for the WBC with an 85 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 1: ops over a thousand, you know that's going to be 86 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 1: a player in a few years. That's going to be 87 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,960 Speaker 1: big for TEMs. Obviously Bobby with but he knows Bobby Witt. 88 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: He's been acoring that lineup. You know, Kyle Schwarberz had 89 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: a great one. But Gunner Henderson another guy you know 90 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: you've I think you faced him obviously, I played with him, 91 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: so we have a really good idea who he is. 92 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: But man, he's another great player. Bryce ter Rain having 93 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: a great tournament, and then you go to the bullpen. 94 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 1: I think the bullpen is one thing that was a 95 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: really really I was a huge for the win yesterday 96 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:27,040 Speaker 1: for the USA, but it's something that I had heard 97 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: on maybe one on one ESPN here in Saint Louis, 98 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: and then some other people talk about, how, man, how 99 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: did the US not bring together a bullpen? You know, 100 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: how did they not get some of the big names. 101 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: But one Mason Miller has been phenomenal. Bednard yesterday, what 102 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 1: a jim he got out of in that inning. Griffin 103 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: Jacks if you haven't seen the Twins play, obviously he 104 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: got traded, but Griffin Jacks has been one of the 105 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 1: nastiest relievers in the game for the last few years, 106 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: and his sweeper really kind of took off. And I 107 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: mean it's a pitchy throw seventy to eighty percent of 108 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: the time. I feel like Tyler Rogers, he's another guy 109 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: who's been nasty for the Giants and now he's at 110 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: the Blue Jay, so he was just added. But man, 111 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: this bullpen really picked up, you know, four and two 112 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 1: thirds of baseball against an all star lineup, and you know, 113 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: really with a one run lead the entire time, I 114 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,159 Speaker 1: feel like they were kind of the MVP of yesterday's game. 115 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, definitely. 116 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,359 Speaker 4: And it's like, okay, but all those guys that you 117 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: just named are are all started last year? 118 00:05:30,120 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: Were they not? 119 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,520 Speaker 4: Pretty much? So it's like what else could you really bring? 120 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: What else could you really bring to the table for 121 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 4: a bullpen? So all in all, I think Bennard wasn't, 122 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: but he's been an All Star in the past. So 123 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 4: it's like when you're looking at the group they put together, 124 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 4: they've they've put together a solid group. They know how 125 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 4: they want to deploy them out of there. They did 126 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:51,120 Speaker 4: a great job yesterday like that, Like you said, that 127 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: lineup is is one of the best that you could 128 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: put together in the world. And then to be able 129 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: to go through that like they've done. To be honest, 130 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: both both sides pitch so well. There's only three runs 131 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 4: scored with those two lineups. So you look at both 132 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: sides the way they threw the ball to be three 133 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 4: runs scored with those lineups. The pitching was was where 134 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 4: it needed to be on both sides, and it was 135 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 4: a fun game, you know, if you if you enjoy 136 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 4: quality pitching and getting out of jams and and and 137 00:06:17,440 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 4: then things of that nature. So I think, uh, you know, 138 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 4: us obviously are in the spot they wanted to be. 139 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 4: With a little hiccup from from Italy losing in their 140 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 4: pool play. The dr did everything that you know, that 141 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 4: they were expected to do all the way through. And 142 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,160 Speaker 4: then at this point in the in the in the tournament, 143 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 4: it's say, who's gonna Who's gonna you know, hit hit 144 00:06:37,040 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: the solo home run to win, or make the you know, 145 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 4: the big swing with runners and on you know, on base, 146 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 4: or make the big pitch. 147 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 3: And us was able to do it last night. 148 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,760 Speaker 1: And and the guy that pitched the eighth inning, Garrett Whitlock. 149 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: People are like Garrett Will Garrett Will, I had a 150 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: two r last year. I mean, I think, uh, de 151 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: Rosa and the guys, you know, put together a good bullpen. 152 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: You know, I think, like you said, most of these 153 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: guys have been all sorts of some point if they 154 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: weren't last year, and they all pitched them all really 155 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 1: really well. And then on the Dominican side, you know, 156 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: one of the questions I saw was did Albert leave 157 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 1: Severino in one guy too long and let him face Gunner? 158 00:07:17,960 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: You know, I faced Gunner, the back door cutter that 159 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: I think he hit the home run. Not a bad 160 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:25,679 Speaker 1: pitch to him. Gunner is a guy that is really 161 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: disciplined on the strikes. On a three to two, you're 162 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 1: going ball to strike, it's probably a good pitch. But 163 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: for the heat that Drosa took over a couple of 164 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: his decisions and obviously most notably thinking they were in 165 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:40,040 Speaker 1: I wonder what people kind of think about Albert, you know, 166 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: letting Severino face that one extra guy instead of Now, 167 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: maybe it didn't work out right. Soto gave up the 168 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: homer to Anthony just right after it, But maybe you 169 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,400 Speaker 1: get Sodo in there kind of settled in and it 170 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: might be a little bit different. 171 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, or Soto could give up back to back home 172 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 4: runs or home runs to both of the lefties when 173 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 4: it comes down to it. So all in all, at 174 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: this at this stage, you're you're kind of handcuffed on 175 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 4: when your reliever can come in how many you know, 176 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: I know it doesn't matter about building up these starting pitchers, 177 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 4: but they're sent to you being taken care of to 178 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 4: be also be building up for their season two, so 179 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 4: they had a plan. Uh they you know, they were 180 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 4: up until that point executing their plan. Okay, you made 181 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 4: a three to two, Uh, pitch that went for a 182 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:28,520 Speaker 4: home run. Wasn't a terrible pitch, you know, that comes 183 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 4: with a territory. But Severino up in that point haven't 184 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 4: given up a run. So, oh, did he leave him 185 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 4: in too long? Okay, yeah, that's it's easy to say 186 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 4: now because he had home run. But up until that point, 187 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 4: there was no runs on the board. 188 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 3: So I think everything was played the way it was 189 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 3: supposed to. You had to. You have to get your. 190 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 4: Starters to that point, you know, where you're trying to 191 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,120 Speaker 4: get through that fourth fifth inning, and then you bring 192 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 4: in your levers after that. So he was trying to 193 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 4: stretch it to where he thought he was set up 194 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:56,120 Speaker 4: to go down to the you know, go to the 195 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 4: end of the game and you know, maybe one one 196 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 4: hit or too long. But I think so, you know, 197 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 4: with the way he was throwing the ball, the where 198 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 4: they were at in the line up, what they were 199 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 4: trying to do. You know, you're trying to, you know, 200 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,559 Speaker 4: make sure you have enough. I guess The main thing 201 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 4: in the WBC, and the way this stuff works out too, 202 00:09:12,120 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 4: is you have to have your relievers someone have a 203 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: clean inning or you might burn them. And you're trying 204 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:19,840 Speaker 4: not to burn them for just one out or to 205 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 4: get out of an inning. So and that's where it's 206 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: like you got to kind of go with your gut 207 00:09:24,520 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 4: and go from there. But when you look up and 208 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 4: there's no runs on the board, and you know, at 209 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 4: that point, I can't say that it was a bad 210 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 4: new believing in yep. 211 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,360 Speaker 1: And then the you know, you say burning a reliever. 212 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,520 Speaker 1: Right now, we look at Mason Miller. That's the one 213 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: thing that kind of stands out. I just saw last night. 214 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: If he throws in this championship game, it would be 215 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 1: three outings in five days, something that probably for a 216 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: big league closer happens a few times in a year, 217 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: not all that often, especially if it's if you have 218 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: a couple of taxing outings. We'll see if he's availab 219 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think once again, this 220 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: bullpen is good. We'll see, uh, you know how how 221 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:08,079 Speaker 1: it kind of lines up for the bullpen, but not 222 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:10,079 Speaker 1: having Mason Miller to be able to slam the door 223 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: might be a little interesting, but you know what, if 224 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: the offense does a good job, we'll see who they're facing. 225 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: The offense does a good job, it might not be 226 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:19,439 Speaker 1: as big of a deal here, all right. So I've 227 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: been looking at a little bit as Venezuela and Italy 228 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: really interesting matchup. Italy's offense has been incredible, Uh, you know, 229 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:33,480 Speaker 1: pitching wise, maybe they don't have some of the depth 230 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 1: that some of these other teams have. So it sounds 231 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: like they're going with probably an Aaron Nola Michael lareingin 232 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 1: piggyback situation, to see how deep we can get into 233 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: this game. Maybe their offense can get them a lead. 234 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: Nola has been fantastic, Lorenzen was lights out against USA. 235 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: I would have to think that they probably like their 236 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:54,720 Speaker 1: chances here to get through six, probably seven innings, and 237 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: then if passquatch and the offense can do their thing, 238 00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: you know, maybe they have a four or five run 239 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: league going into those last couple innings. 240 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's their hope. I've not seen who's pitching starting 241 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: on the Venezuela side, but. 242 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: I believe it is a Kaider Montero is who's going 243 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,880 Speaker 1: and looks like he's he's fresh with I think they 244 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 1: have an eighty pitch restriction. He really needs to get 245 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: deep into the game. Ranger went two and two thirds 246 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: in the last one, and with back to back games here, 247 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: if Venezuela is gonna win and not have a really 248 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 1: tough starting job here at starting assignment against the US 249 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: with a tax bullpen, you know, Montero needs to go 250 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: deep into the game today. 251 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, you got it. 252 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 4: You're hoping for four from him for yere On that side, 253 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 4: I think if you look at having Lorenzen and Nola, 254 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: if you get well, they're both stretched out to go 255 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 4: at least four, right, four to five. So if they can, 256 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 4: if they can get where they're throwing the ball efficiently 257 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: and all that, and they get eighty innings out of 258 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 4: those two, I think it's a win for Italy, no 259 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 4: doubt about it. 260 00:11:57,520 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: That's mine. Yeah, that's my game. 261 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: And it seems like, yeah, I seem it seems like 262 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:03,959 Speaker 1: they're taking I was wondering if Nola was gonna be 263 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: the championship game. They want to make sure they get 264 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: past Venezuela and they're saying we're going to win this 265 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 1: game now. 266 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it lines up to think about this. 267 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 4: If you want to say, all right, Nola is going 268 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 4: to go, and then we're in the fourth inning, he's 269 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:22,120 Speaker 4: gotten through four and we're up a decent amount. Maybe 270 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 4: that's when you try to, you know, manipulate some things 271 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 4: where you have Lorenzen for that, you know, for the 272 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,719 Speaker 4: championship start. But like I said, you've got to get there. 273 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 4: That's the number one thing. The way that they've been 274 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 4: swinging and doing all this, I like their chances. I 275 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: was at the old local golf club yesterday and people 276 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 4: were asking me what is up with Team Italy and 277 00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 4: I've not heard of them? And I go, well, you 278 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 4: need to watch more baseball because some of these kids 279 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 4: are really good. 280 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 3: The problem is they're all. 281 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 4: Young, and they most of them do not play for 282 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 4: let's say you're You're you're bigger organizations or you know, 283 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 4: the things of that where they don't get a whole 284 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 4: lot of TV time. Right, these guys can play. They're 285 00:12:59,920 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 4: not afraid of it. They're enjoying it. They've got the 286 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:04,960 Speaker 4: youthfulness about them. That's that's fun, you know, And they 287 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 4: were able to scratch you some. You know, there's still 288 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 4: some quality names on there. They just might not be 289 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 4: you know, notable national names, but you know, this, this 290 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 4: is tournament's for. Hey, we we can play baseball where 291 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 4: we're here with the you know, the top four in 292 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 4: the world at the end of the day right now 293 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:22,319 Speaker 4: as where they're at. So that I think that's the 294 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 4: beauty of the game. Italy's put a lot of time 295 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: and effort into developing baseball over there, and you're seeing 296 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 4: it on the national stage right now, and I think 297 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:35,920 Speaker 4: that's something that is the beautiful. Best part of this 298 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 4: whole thing is seeing countries like that kind of slowly 299 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:41,720 Speaker 4: step up and start to you know, take over and 300 00:13:41,800 --> 00:13:44,280 Speaker 4: be relevant. And I you know, I'm excited to see it. 301 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 4: I hope, you know, I hope they get by Venezuela 302 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 4: and I to be honest with you, so it's like 303 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: a rematch of the of US one loss and we'll see, 304 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:54,199 Speaker 4: you know who who's the better team at the end. 305 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 306 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: They've really slugged their way through this tournament. You know, 307 00:13:57,760 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 1: twelve home runs I think in their first four games, 308 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm not sure. 309 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:01,080 Speaker 2: I don't remember. 310 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: Well, Pascuatino had three against Mexico. Like they've they have 311 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 1: just slugged their way through and throw the ball really well. Also, 312 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting with having Nola and lorenz In, 313 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: both righty, both with good breaking balls, both can pitch 314 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: a lot of rities on this Venezuela side that if 315 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: both of those guys are on, could be a really 316 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: difficult task for them to get to them. You know, 317 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: you've got Churio Suarez, Perez Contreras, Glabor Torres and Acuna 318 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: alrightys who are the Venezuela team is leaning on them 319 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: to get into this Italy bullpen, and it sounds like 320 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 1: if Italy is able to win, they're going to go 321 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 1: a bullpen game against the US. So whoever wins this game, 322 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: US obviously has a little bit of an advantage having 323 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: the off day today and be able to rest a 324 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,320 Speaker 1: little bit. It's going to be a tall task here, 325 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: especially if Italy gets to the Venezuela starter. If if 326 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: Venezuela is able to score some runs and kind of 327 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:03,400 Speaker 1: make the Italy bullpen work a little bit. If I'm 328 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: the US, I'm hoping for a ten to nine slugfest here, 329 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: which as a pitcher I would hate it. I want 330 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: to see some pitchers go out there and dominate. But 331 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 1: I'm kind of hoping for a ten to nine slugfest 332 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: tonight and we'll see what these bullpens look like tomorrow 333 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: coming into this game, because it could be a real, 334 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: real tall task for the winner of tonight if these 335 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 1: starters don't don't get into the game and now you're 336 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: throwing a bullpen game and your bullpen isn't even fresh. 337 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:31,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, US is in the best spot. 338 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 4: They're gonna have a day off, and they're looking at 339 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 4: two teams that have been known to put up runs 340 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 4: with both sides. 341 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 3: Kind of, Hey, we're. 342 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: Gonna have to go back to back, We're gonna have 343 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,960 Speaker 4: to do all this, and we're kind of at this point, 344 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 4: you're kind of hate piecing it together anyways. So you know, 345 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 4: if Italy can, you know, those two guys can figure 346 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 4: out how to get seven innings and they win the game, 347 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 4: maybe even eight would be huge. That gives them a 348 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: chance where they can run nine guys out there, you 349 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,560 Speaker 4: know against US, which is what Japan did against Us 350 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 4: in the last one, where it seemed like every inning 351 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 4: they were bringing out a new guy, just giving different 352 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 4: looks and stuff like that. And as you've seen that 353 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 4: does mess with teams a little bit, but I mean, 354 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 4: you would rather have that than having a guy that 355 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 4: you know they've got linked and are able to, you know, 356 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,480 Speaker 4: eat up some Indians because the more you know that, hey, 357 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 4: they're bringing in the next guy. Let's let's get after 358 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 4: these guys. Guys got to you know, we'll take different 359 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 4: types at bats and stuff like that. So it's gonna 360 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 4: be exciting. I mean, I'm looking forward to watching this 361 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 4: game tonight. If it turns into a slugfest, huge advantage 362 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 4: to the US though. 363 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 2: Yep, I agree for tonight's game. 364 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: Through the end of the WBC, Fox one is the 365 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: place to catch it all the way through the World 366 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: Series to the World Cup, NASCAR IndyCar all with Fox One. 367 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: You can get it live. 368 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: Starts your seven day free trial today, offers our subject 369 00:16:50,000 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: to change. Download the Fox one app today and stream 370 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 1: the World Baseball Classic live tonight and tomorrow. Going to 371 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: foxone dot com for complete terms and conditions. Fox one 372 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: streaming Now. All right, Lance, I think as we get 373 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 1: closer to the end of the camp, let's transition to 374 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: some Cardinals talk, says Cardinals territory, and let's talk a 375 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: little bit about roster construction. We've got to get down 376 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: to twenty six. I believe they have like eight to 377 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: ten more cuts to make. They still have maybe seven 378 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: or eight I think are non roster guys. Some of 379 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,920 Speaker 1: those might be I'm not gonna say the decisions already made, 380 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: but you know we've seen how those decisions play out. 381 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts here as we get down to 382 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: the end of camp. You know, I think Catchers are 383 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: for the most part, probably figured out. I think Crooks 384 00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 1: was just optioned down. But you know, the Cardinals are 385 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,239 Speaker 1: twelve and eight. I never really we've talked about this. 386 00:17:46,280 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: We give Jim a lot of trouble. I'm not putting 387 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: a ton of stock into it. But they are playing well. 388 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: Some of these young guys are. They're going it all. 389 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, they might win the Great Fruit Cups with 390 00:17:58,240 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: the Great first you gotta win one, you But let's 391 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 1: talk about here over next week. Him's got some interesting 392 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: decisions to make as going into next week on who 393 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: to keep, who to cut. What are your thoughts how 394 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,959 Speaker 1: the catcher's position has has finished up? You know it 395 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: is March mass so I feel like the catcher position 396 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: has finished kind of chalk here right, probably exactly how 397 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: we expected it. But assuming we go Herrera pajes poso, 398 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 1: what do you think about how that's shaken out? 399 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 3: I love it. We're putting on our hime hats. 400 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, tim hats time hats for the next seven 401 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: days here and let's see if we can figure out 402 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: which twenty six are going north. 403 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 3: Let's see who of us had the better the closest 404 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,120 Speaker 3: of the twenty six. I like that. Well, catchers, yeah right. 405 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 4: I think if you're carrying three catchers, that's your three catchers, right, 406 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 4: and I think you carry three catchers. 407 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: Yeah. 408 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 4: We've been talking about this because a rare's the agent 409 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 4: more like I would say half the week he's d agent. 410 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,200 Speaker 2: So that's my got some stuff as well. 411 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah right. 412 00:19:05,640 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: I think where he hasn't caught a ton, I don't 413 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: think because of Sorknee. 414 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 4: Which I think in the grand scheme of things is okay. 415 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 4: Where we're coming back from the arm we had last year. 416 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 4: We had some leg hamstring stuff with during the days 417 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 4: of catching. That's why they put him to DH And 418 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: we're talking about getting him, you know, out of the 419 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 4: squad a little bit more. The bat's got to be 420 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 4: in the lineup. The more he hits, the better player 421 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,920 Speaker 4: he is. And if you can figure out a way 422 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: to have him DH. I mean, the question is you 423 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 4: want us bat in the lineup one hundred and forty 424 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 4: games or do you want him to catch, you know, 425 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 4: one hundred and then be hurt. So that's my my 426 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 4: The way I think about it is, Hey, you have 427 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 4: two catchers that you can trust, you put him in 428 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: there at eighth, ninth in the order, and then you 429 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 4: let you let even hit third in DH as much 430 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 4: as he wants. That's kind of where I'm at, But 431 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:56,560 Speaker 4: that's the three catchers for me. I don't think we're 432 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 4: going to have a fight there on that one. 433 00:19:58,280 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: What do you got No, I don't think so. 434 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 1: I think, if anything, i'd be interested to see if 435 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: he's taken any reps at first base this spring. There's 436 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: not a right handed necessarily first basement to be there. 437 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 1: Urius can play first base. He can play really about anywhere, 438 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:22,679 Speaker 1: So if they want to get Burly a day, they 439 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: can do that. Some of these decisions that I looked at, 440 00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: they kind of tie into each other here with what 441 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 1: Herrera does. If we can put Herrera at first base, 442 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 1: then that probably solves a little bit of that flexibility 443 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 1: with Burley. If Herreraic can play first base, then Burley 444 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: can maybe go and play left field for a day, 445 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: play right field for a day, to get Walker off 446 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: his feet, to maybe get an extra lefty in the 447 00:20:48,400 --> 00:20:54,080 Speaker 1: lineup against a righty for an outfielder. I think some 448 00:20:54,160 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: of that is interesting, but I agree totally. You want 449 00:20:58,520 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: Avon's back in the line up. You want him going 450 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 1: out through producing offensively. If you can get him some 451 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: catching starts later in April, when maybe his body's feeling 452 00:21:09,040 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: a little bit better, maybe his throwing is doing really well, 453 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 1: and he's he's had a chance to work with Pogi 454 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 1: and some and YACHTI and some of these guys, and 455 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: he's feeling more comfortable back there. Let's get him some 456 00:21:18,359 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 1: of those reps because I think we would both agree 457 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: going forward, if you have a catcher who is defensively 458 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: average or slightly above average and well above average offensively, 459 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: it is a huge advantage for your team. So yeah, 460 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: I think that's a benefit, and it opens up that 461 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: DH spot a little bit. It gives Newbar maybe a 462 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,240 Speaker 1: chance to be a DH and get off his feet, 463 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,240 Speaker 1: gives Walker a chance to be a DH and not 464 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:49,960 Speaker 1: have you know, defense on his mind that day. So yeah, 465 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: I think I think Kevin Avonn be able to move 466 00:21:51,920 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: around offer some flexibility, and maybe seeing Wilson do that 467 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: a little bit last year, maybe that gives him a 468 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: little bit of that confidence to say, hey, I can 469 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: be a catcher at first base if I can work 470 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 1: on this footwork here, uh, and I can be comfortable 471 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: around the base as well. But leading leading the into 472 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: the infield, now, you know, Burly, Uh, it seems like 473 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: jj is all but a lock uh to be at 474 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: second base when Gorman has been swinging the thatt better. 475 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: It looks like those are your four around the infield. Urious. 476 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I think if he's healthy, he is going obviously to 477 00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:33,719 Speaker 1: be that fifth infielder as utility. The two guys that 478 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: seem to be battling for a spot are for mean 479 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 1: and said J. C. SAgs, for me is just an 480 00:22:42,280 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: absolute ball player, man. I have him slotted in with 481 00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: Newton possibly on the il to start here. I've got 482 00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 1: SAgs slotted in as a fourth outfielder actually and offering 483 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 1: a whole lot of flexibility. 484 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 2: To this team. 485 00:22:57,560 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: But when it comes to the infield, I think that 486 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: for me and SAgs to both uh make the roster 487 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: out of camp. What do you see with that Urius 488 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: for me and se JC group going north as the infielders. 489 00:23:12,160 --> 00:23:14,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I think that's it right. And then you're 490 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 4: I mean, that's your that's your bench with the third catcher. 491 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 4: In my opinion, that's what I have down. And then 492 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 4: obviously you're gonna have to make some decisions whenever a 493 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 4: Newton gets back and what that looks like. But for 494 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 4: the time being, and that also gives you the right 495 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:30,560 Speaker 4: handed guys that hey, we've got a guy that I think, 496 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 4: for mean can play first U Sag, you can play 497 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 4: left or vice versa, whatever you might need to do 498 00:23:36,359 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 4: in those days, and give yourself a fighting chance there 499 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 4: against a quality lefty. So I think they're a kind 500 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 4: of with with Newts. Injury is locked in what they 501 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 4: what they can do right now, and then a decision 502 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 4: is going to have to be made on that bench 503 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 4: when it comes time. Is it going to be like, hey, 504 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,680 Speaker 4: if Ivan is catching four days a week or five 505 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:58,560 Speaker 4: days a week and he's going to have to get 506 00:23:58,600 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 4: off his feet on the other days where he not 507 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 4: even gonna d h then you might lose the best, 508 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,399 Speaker 4: you might lose that third catcher as as the season 509 00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:08,720 Speaker 4: goes on. At times, there's a lot of different moving 510 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 4: parts here, and when people are talking like, oh, you know, 511 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 4: there's a all these guys can do a lot of 512 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 4: different things and they've got a pretty decent way to 513 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 4: maneuver their way through it. So that's my bench right now, 514 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 4: se Gacy areas Plazo and and for me, that's gonna 515 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 4: be my bench. And then you know, the rest of 516 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:32,000 Speaker 4: the infield, that's your starting infield Burley, JJ Win Gore 517 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 4: and then figure out who needs a dagg whatever how 518 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 4: it may look. I think it kind of off me 519 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 4: when you're looking at the roster and all how it 520 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 4: plays out, especially position player wise, has been kind of hey, here, 521 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 4: here it is. This is what we got, and then 522 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 4: we're gonna have some you know, moving parts on certain 523 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 4: days which will give the lineup some some depth and 524 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 4: some versatility that actually is gonna be there's been missing 525 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,560 Speaker 4: a little bit in the past. 526 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: I think when you have not Ill locked. 527 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:06,959 Speaker 4: In and when you had uh Goldie locked in and 528 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 4: this and that, you you kind of couldn't mix and match, 529 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 4: which you don't want to. When those guys are in 530 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,479 Speaker 4: MVP caliber level, but though that wasn't the case. So 531 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: now you can do the matching and the things that 532 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 4: Milwaukee does at. 533 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 3: A really high level. You have the ability to do 534 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 3: that with some of these guys. 535 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 4: So I like where they're kind of where they're doing 536 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,359 Speaker 4: that where they can be problems for starting pitchers because 537 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 4: of the how the lineup can mix and match each day. 538 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:35,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely agree, totally. I think it offers a lot 539 00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 1: of flexibility. And I mentioned about SAgs just being a ballplayer. 540 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,439 Speaker 1: You just let ballplayers go be ball players, man like 541 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:52,480 Speaker 1: they just want to be. It's exactly right, umaller. 542 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,440 Speaker 2: Than no doubt. 543 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: Just in the middle of the ending here, you want 544 00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:55,359 Speaker 1: me to go to a second, I don't go to second. 545 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 1: SAgs doesn't care, all right, So getting that to the 546 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,160 Speaker 1: outfield the same kind of set, right. You know, I'm 547 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:08,200 Speaker 1: looking at Walker Victor Scott and personally I know there's 548 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,200 Speaker 1: been a lot of talk about Bias in Velaskaz. I 549 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: think they both obviously had great springs. They optioned Bias. 550 00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Vlaskaz is a non roster right now. The forty men 551 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: roster is at forty. I think with optioning a guy 552 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:23,640 Speaker 1: like Fernandez, that's not a guy. I would DFA at 553 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 1: this point because I think it has great stuff. Unfortunately 554 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 1: for Velasquez, I think it probably hurts them at the 555 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,840 Speaker 1: roster is at forty already, and I would go with 556 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: a defensive outfield, and I would have Walker, Scott and 557 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 1: Church be my starting outfielders and see if Church can 558 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,680 Speaker 1: slid into that left field spot and really track down 559 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:46,120 Speaker 1: that gap. Man, you have two center fielders out there, 560 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: it's big. They like Church his approach at the plate 561 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: as well. And then I think you end up with 562 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 1: an extremely extremely good defensive team. And then you have 563 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: SAgs and for me and who both can go the outfield. 564 00:26:58,000 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: Like I said, Burley can go the outfield for me 565 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 1: and can slot the first Yearius to first. You have 566 00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 1: a lot of flexibility. And I don't worry about outfield 567 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 1: at all because of how many ballplayers they got. 568 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: No. I think right now the only word of the 569 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: outfielder is how they get to hit right. 570 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 4: They're going to catch the ball when it's hit out there, 571 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 4: especially with Church and and and Scott with Vic, I mean. 572 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: They're spot on there. 573 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 4: I think it's give Church the chance when when Neot's 574 00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: down just because he needs that experience. 575 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,439 Speaker 3: He needs to be able to do that. And then 576 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 3: when you look. 577 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:29,439 Speaker 4: At you know, like we said, we be able to 578 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 4: mix and match, you're going to be able to platoon 579 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 4: do these things you need to at times. If Church 580 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,639 Speaker 4: is able to do that thing and play at a 581 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 4: good level, then that gives Walker the ability to d 582 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 4: h or take a day where the next thing, you know, 583 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 4: he got three three left handed hitting outfielders and uh, 584 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,879 Speaker 4: you know vice versa where you're able to throw to 585 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:49,359 Speaker 4: Gacy and uh, you know for being out in left 586 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 4: field when you need it, when you need a day 587 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 4: or something like that. 588 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 3: So I think that's a no doubt or I think 589 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 3: it's kind of you know where it is. 590 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 4: I think the you know, bias was. I think he's 591 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 4: going to got a chance to be a really good 592 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 4: But I also think that he's got to go to 593 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:05,119 Speaker 4: Triple A. I think he has to get at bats 594 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:08,400 Speaker 4: and he's got to get a different regiment of what 595 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 4: it's like because it's that next step, right if you 596 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 4: just jump. Pitching's a little different and things like that, 597 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 4: which he's already down in the minor league. So that 598 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 4: and like I said, the forty man is kind of full, 599 00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 4: so let it play out. These guys are on your 600 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,000 Speaker 4: forty man for a reason. They're young, it's not like 601 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:24,880 Speaker 4: you're you know, you've been trying to get them off there. 602 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,000 Speaker 4: They literally just got on there. So let him go 603 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 4: see what they got. And if someone falls or someone 604 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,879 Speaker 4: gets hurt, someone goes on the sixty day, then you're 605 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 4: able to. 606 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,199 Speaker 3: Bring somebody up and put him in there. So I 607 00:28:35,280 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 3: like where they're at. 608 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 4: You know, you know, there's a little bit of an unknown, 609 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 4: but that's part of this, you know, rebuild that you're 610 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 4: gonna do it. You got to let some of these 611 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:45,480 Speaker 4: guys play. And a non roster invites, a non roster invite, 612 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 4: and Church has been on your roster for a reason. 613 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 4: So let the guy you have a chance in my opinion, 614 00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 4: and that non roster can go down to Triple A 615 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 4: and play, and then if you need him, then you 616 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 4: can make the movie you. 617 00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 3: Need to do. 618 00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 2: Totally agree. 619 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: As we moved to the bullpen here, we've got probably 620 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: five or six of these kind of locked in right. 621 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: You got Jojo O'Brien, Stanik s Vohnson Brule seems like 622 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 1: he's gonna be probably the second Lefty Pushard is you know, 623 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: he's a Rule five. We'll see what they decide to 624 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 1: do with that. I think they like his stuff and 625 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: they're probably gonna want to give him an opportunity. Fits 626 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,400 Speaker 1: I think also has good stuff. I would probably have 627 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 1: him in there to make sure that he can just 628 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: get some innings, add you know, if he can add length, 629 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: and then to me, I would go an eight guy 630 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,840 Speaker 1: Penn with a five man rotation. You have Leehi, who 631 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: possibly could be on a little bit of an innings issue, 632 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: I don't know. And then for me, that leaves Grisefo 633 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 1: to be that swing man if you need to piggyback, 634 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 1: get him some big leg innings and extend him so 635 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 1: that he can get some linked and maybe still be 636 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 1: that starter that you envisioned him to be over the 637 00:29:58,440 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 1: last few years. 638 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. No, I think I think we're on board there. 639 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:07,560 Speaker 4: You got yeah, I mean Stantic Swanson, U s Riana O'Brien. 640 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 2: I didn't have Soriano in there. 641 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 3: Yep, yeah, I do. 642 00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 4: I think that he's out, he's out of options, right, 643 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: so he's got that. I think he has to be 644 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 4: in there. And then Romero and Brule. I think that's 645 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,239 Speaker 4: where it is so gotcha, I think, and I have 646 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 4: seven and here's and we'll talk about why I have 647 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 4: seven here in a minute. So that's my seven, my 648 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 4: seven man bullpen that we have for the twenty six 649 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 4: man roster. 650 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: And once again we're both on board. I think this 651 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: is a strength of this team. I think this is 652 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: once again defense and bullpen. I think, and I think 653 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,880 Speaker 1: rotation is shaping up to be all three strengths with 654 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: this team with Yes, they're young, but the stuff in 655 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: the bullpen. 656 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 2: Is really good. 657 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,040 Speaker 4: Well, and you're looking at Roy, Kroff and Fernandez are 658 00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 4: gonna be uh, you know, depth pieces in triple A. 659 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 4: And then uh, I keep spacing this guy's name who 660 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: they got for uh that's going to be coming back 661 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 4: from the knee injury that is supposedly Dobbins. 662 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:08,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's gonna be. 663 00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 4: He's gonna fit in there some shape or form. And 664 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,680 Speaker 4: I think he's got this stuff to be a starter 665 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 4: if they wanted to. So that's gonna be an interesting one. 666 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 3: How they do. 667 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 4: I remember I was asking how he's looking or whatever 668 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 4: in camp and they said, well, you know, he's not 669 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 4: game ready because he can't cover. First, I go, guys, 670 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 4: I didn't cover first for thirteen years. He's game ready. 671 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:27,720 Speaker 1: We ready to go? 672 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: Tell ready. Covering first was a criteria to be game ready. 673 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: I was never game ready for a big leagues. Hey. 674 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: I was the guy that needed to work on a 675 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:39,959 Speaker 1: backing up bases. If you give up a ground ball 676 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: through the hole that gets to the gap, go back 677 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: up a base. You just punch tickets and take the 678 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:44,360 Speaker 1: backup bases. 679 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 4: Right, yeah, backup bass because the guy gets the Let's say, hey, 680 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 4: here's the truth that matter. If I didn't want to 681 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 4: him just get to the next space, I shouldn't let 682 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 4: him get it hit. Just give me the ball right here? 683 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 4: My turn to thirty. 684 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: Perfect, all right? So that moves us to the rotation. 685 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:04,320 Speaker 1: Here to finish, I have may or not in any 686 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 1: order here may Polonte, McGreevy and Lee. He I only 687 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: went five. I think with Grisepo in the bullpen, I 688 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 1: think that leaves you that extra swing man. I would 689 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 1: want Matthews and our other depth pieces to be ready 690 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: as starters. We all know that injuries happened, you went 691 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:23,760 Speaker 1: with a six man rotation. 692 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:25,360 Speaker 2: White is that well? 693 00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 3: So it's like a modified six right. 694 00:32:27,520 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 4: So here's where I got May, Libby Polonte McGreevy lay 695 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 4: he fits right, So my thought is Layy and Fits 696 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,360 Speaker 4: both coming off well, Lee had a great year last year. 697 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 4: We's coming off of reliever innings, right, So okay, where's 698 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: our Max going to be there? Where's Fits coming off 699 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 4: of his injury? How are we going to be able 700 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: to maneuver our way through theres Hey as a year 701 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 4: goes on. Mcgreevy's never made thirty starts in the big leagues, 702 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:56,640 Speaker 4: Libby's done it. May had his most innings and most 703 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 4: starts last year at one hundred and thirty something innings, 704 00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: So every body is a touch on an innings limit. 705 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 4: In my opinion, there's no one guy you can chalk 706 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 4: up for one hundred and seventy plus innings, right, So 707 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,960 Speaker 4: how are you to get through the year? So my 708 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:15,000 Speaker 4: thought is at the beginning of the year the best 709 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 4: thing you can do where guys are there at the 710 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 4: end of the year, which we all know that you 711 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,479 Speaker 4: have to learn how to get through September. So if 712 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 4: you shut someone down before September, it's really not helping 713 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 4: them for the future. How can we modify innings and 714 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,280 Speaker 4: figure out how to get through this season through the 715 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 4: year where everybody's still pitching through September, so they can 716 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 4: get through that those dog days because you and I 717 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 4: both know it, that's the time of year where you 718 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 4: got to figure it out and you got to get 719 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 4: through some stuff. But if you shut them down, it's 720 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,280 Speaker 4: like not even finishing your season. There's a lot of 721 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 4: things that just are not good in my opinion moving forwards. 722 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 4: So I always go on the side of go six 723 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,840 Speaker 4: man skip starts, do that stuff early in the year, 724 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 4: or have if we have a six man rotation quote 725 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 4: unquote where it's in lady are our piggyback in a 726 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 4: day right, where it's both going four and four, and 727 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 4: then you'd use a you know something like that. That 728 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:08,799 Speaker 4: was my thought process there, and I think that will 729 00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,319 Speaker 4: save every starter where a you know, one time three 730 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,799 Speaker 4: we have a piggybag and then you at the end 731 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 4: of the year, everybody's healthy to go do their thing. 732 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 4: And then here's the truth of the matter. May is 733 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 4: going to be gone probably at the trade deadline if 734 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,759 Speaker 4: he's doing anything that he's supposed to be doing. That's 735 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,359 Speaker 4: kind of the thought of signing him. So get these 736 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 4: guys ready to jump in that second half too, by 737 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 4: not doing too much with them early and you know, 738 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 4: monitoring the innings as they go. So that's my six 739 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:36,760 Speaker 4: man rotation speel. 740 00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't hate it as a development standpoint, obviously, 741 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: I think if you were you or I around in 742 00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: the rotation, we would be fighting tooth and nail to 743 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: not have a six man because we want to be 744 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 1: out like that. 745 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, they didn't to deal with that conversation. 746 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 1: No, But development wise, that's why I think Griseo, Quinn 747 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,760 Speaker 1: Matthews at some point, you know, getting innings as swingman 748 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,359 Speaker 1: is really important. Well, we'll see how these decisions work 749 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,520 Speaker 1: out here coming up. Maybe on our next one, we 750 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,279 Speaker 1: can talk about a little bit of March Madness because 751 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna be full in the swing of it before 752 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: I go, I told you guys last time. This is 753 00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:21,759 Speaker 1: definitely a charity selfish promote self selfish promotion. Here, Big 754 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: League Impact, the charity that Adam Wayner and I work with, 755 00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 1: We're doing a March Madness bracket challenge. Nine players are 756 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: going to be agreeing to compete against you, and then 757 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: also grand prize winner does a meet and greet with him. 758 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: So head to Big League Impact Dot org slash March 759 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,800 Speaker 1: Madness and sign up for our bracket challenge there please. 760 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: All the funds are going to go to all of 761 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 1: our Big League Impact initiatives around the league all year long. Lance, 762 00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Enjoy this week of first four games coming in, Enjoy 763 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,839 Speaker 1: the week with the family. Welcome back from spring break. 764 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 1: Hopefully you had a good one. Was it was it relaxing? 765 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 1: Yea good eve? 766 00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,080 Speaker 2: Kid? 767 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:04,400 Speaker 3: Right, we had great time. My kids loved, loved all 768 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 3: the rides. 769 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 4: But you know how many people are at Disney and 770 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 4: ever you get a kid on your shoulder, you're pushing 771 00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 4: a stroller, you got to put. 772 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:13,399 Speaker 3: It's like, come on, man, like, yeah. 773 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 4: It's at all times. I'm just trying to are do 774 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 4: we have everybody? It's you know, in Magic Kingdom for 775 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 4: God's sake. Ye, good time, good welcome back. Great talking 776 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,439 Speaker 4: with you again. We appreciate everybody tuning into this one 777 00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:31,759 Speaker 4: and we'll see you guys on the next one of 778 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:32,600 Speaker 4: Cardinal Territory. 779 00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:33,280 Speaker 2: Thank you guys,