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Speaker 1: Your tunes about drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Goody Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's good

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Speaker 2: us too. Our number two of the drive here on

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Speaker 2: your twenty four to seven Home of the Black and Gold.

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Speaker 2: We're we're going all over the place today, Matt, I

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Speaker 2: tell you all staffing stuff, explosive play, differential, catching up

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Speaker 2: with Chris Adamski. We're talking college hoops in here during

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Speaker 2: the break, having some fun. But our number two, like

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Speaker 2: I shared with you, just kind of a new exercise

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Speaker 2: for the rest of this week. I want to take

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Speaker 2: Steelers position groups and kind of just do some report

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Speaker 2: card stuff, some twenty twenty five evaluations. I figure for

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Speaker 2: the rest of the week we'll do one segment on offense,

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Speaker 2: one segment on defense, and kind of part screw it

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Speaker 2: throughout the week. So the way that I kind of

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Speaker 2: divvied this up, Matt was, as you can imagine, there's

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Speaker 2: more position groups on offense than there is on defense,

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Speaker 2: you know, Okay, like on offense, quarterbacks, running backs, tight ends,

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Speaker 2: offensive line, wide receivers. Defense, I feel like it's more

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Speaker 2: defensive line, linebackers, secondary. I mean, I guess we could

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Speaker 2: break it all down and do edges and safeties and.

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Speaker 3: Safe corners however you want to do it. I don't

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Speaker 3: care about.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start here, since this is kind of some

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Speaker 2: of what we talked about a lot of what we

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Speaker 2: talked about with Chris Adamski in the first hour. Let's

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Speaker 2: start offensive line and tight ends here today. Does that

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Speaker 2: for this segment? That does that? No? I meant for this.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, because I was thinking of maybe combining

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Speaker 3: You know what, Let's start here, let's start.

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Speaker 2: Let's do that. You're right, I don't need to. I

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Speaker 2: don't need to pigeonhole it. And we can always do

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Speaker 2: an extra offensive segment or something if we need to.

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Speaker 2: You're right, So let's do trenches today. Let's do offensive

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Speaker 2: line and then defensive lines. That sound good to you?

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Speaker 3: Are we counting Watt and high Smith's defensive lineman?

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Speaker 2: Would you like to or would you like to keep

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Speaker 2: them separated? It?

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Speaker 3: Give us one more segment, So let's just give you

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Speaker 3: the big guys, and then we'll do edges as their own.

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Speaker 2: You know, the offspring the nineties alternative. You gotta keep

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Speaker 2: them separated. Yeah, let's keep them separated offensive line here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I think overall for this season,

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Speaker 2: I think i'd go B plus.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to grade them against thirty one other teams ooh, okay,

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Speaker 3: against expectations or are we happy with them? That type

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Speaker 3: of thing. I think that's the best way to do it,

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Speaker 3: to be as impartial as possible and.

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Speaker 2: To kind of grade on a curve. Whereas, yes, like,

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Speaker 2: is there is there anybody in the NFL if you

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Speaker 2: did if we did this exercise for all too, for

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Speaker 2: all thirty two teams, how many offensive lines would be

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Speaker 2: really given a two.

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Speaker 3: True just on their own?

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Speaker 2: Standoffs have to be because as we talk about that,

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Speaker 2: that's probably the weakest collective group for the thirty two

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Speaker 2: NFL teams across the board, if you go by position,

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Speaker 2: it is everybody wants offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a huge shortage.

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Speaker 2: So I like what you're saying.

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Speaker 3: I mean, like, for reference, like when we do quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna be like, well, Rogers was a heck

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Speaker 3: gonna compare him to Josh Allen and Tua. I mean

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Speaker 3: guys that are clearly better and clearly worse Marja yeah yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 2: Where if it's just if we're doing this like past

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Speaker 3: Like if we set expectations preseason and we may have

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Speaker 3: already done that, did you get over the bar or not?

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Speaker 3: Is one way to look at this. I think they

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Speaker 3: direction period, you know, like they still seem like they're climbing.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna have a new O Line coach, but that's

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Speaker 3: true for every position. Basically, you're gonna have new coaching

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Speaker 3: no matter what. I don't know how that influences things,

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Speaker 3: thing in his game, like just correct this second step

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Speaker 2: We talk about change of with and I'm gonna use

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Speaker 2: air quotes here, but with like underperforming athletes, we talk

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Speaker 2: about change of scenery a lot where sometimes guys go

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Speaker 2: you know what, it's just not in the cards for them.

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Speaker 2: But sometimes you mentioned Dodson perfect fits a great example. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you know, and there's been there's been examples of that

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Speaker 2: working in the other direction too, the time, you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe someone like Ryan Clark or someone like James Ferrier

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Speaker 3: Yes, a lot of examples of people coming here.

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Speaker 2: Right, absolutely, so, Yeah, and Kevin Dotson's a great one.

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Speaker 2: The classic change of scenery things. Sometimes it can be

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Speaker 2: not in the cards for you. But I also think

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Speaker 2: that change of scenery thing can work the other way too,

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Speaker 2: when the when the people when you stay with the

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Speaker 2: same organization, but the staff the people around you change.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, they're gonna use them differently, they're going to

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Speaker 3: coach them differently, they're going to see new eyes on them.

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Speaker 3: So Jones in particular, and I hope the others are true,

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Speaker 3: like don't screw up what's going on the right time,

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Speaker 3: right right, Yeah, Yeah, they're doing good.

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Speaker 2: But but man, if we if we felt confident and

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Speaker 2: secure in PROGERC. Jones going forward, can you imagine what

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Speaker 2: we'd be saying about this offensive line group exactly? I mean,

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Speaker 2: like the only question was who's your left guard of

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Speaker 2: the future? Imagine. I mean we would be flying high

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Speaker 2: and brilliant, no question about it, but still pretty close.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm feeling as good about this group as

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Speaker 2: I have of a Steelers offensive line group since those

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Speaker 3: Now investing in it and you better, I mean like

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Speaker 3: it'd be a real problem if this was like this

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Speaker 3: like we would be like we're in bad shade. The

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Speaker 2: Where this offensive line was, did you give a B plus?

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Speaker 2: I think about a B plus.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sad. I think that's dead on now.

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Speaker 2: They are clearly above average. Yes, I think they are

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Speaker 2: probably a top ten offensive line in the league, but

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Speaker 2: much closer to ten than to one.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Now, to your point, there isn't like one. There's

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Speaker 3: not the Eagles of a couple of years ago. Like,

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Speaker 3: holy smokes, this line is unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: There's not the the Chiefs line when the Holmes broke

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, or even some of the Lions lines lately, yeah,

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Speaker 3: really really good lately. Now, I think the Steelers could

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Speaker 3: get there. You know, one more hit, you know, one

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Speaker 3: more addition could go a long way.

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Speaker 2: And if Frasier down the right side, if those three

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Speaker 3: Yes, now. I also think this is kind of a

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Speaker 3: branded thorn thing too, is offensive lines, especially in pass protection.

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Speaker 3: Their responsibilities aren't created equal, No doubt, It's easier here

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Speaker 2: Makes sense.

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Speaker 3: He's a microprosts are in terms of knowing where blitzes

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Speaker 2: For as often as Ben Roethlisberger would shrug three people

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Speaker 2: he would also just as many times hold the ball

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Speaker 2: a sack. Of course, of course, like Max has talked

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Speaker 2: about that before, the Blessing and the curse of you know,

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Speaker 2: blocking for seven throughout his career. Yes, he's like half

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Speaker 2: the time, if I let a guy miss, it didn't

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Speaker 2: matter because Ben would shrug him off and make a play.

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Speaker 2: But he's like sometimes I'd block my guy for four

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Speaker 3: Where two and a half is a job well done

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Speaker 3: by the left tackle. I'm on four here, dude.

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Speaker 2: Right and a half, and he's still sack.

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm doing my job right. I should not take sacks.

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Speaker 3: So you and I have talked about this, but Dale

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Speaker 3: and I talked about it a time. Sacks is a

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Speaker 3: quarterback stat totally, at least as much as protection. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Manning doesn't take sack. I mean like Caleb Williams is

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Speaker 2: Exampion, not anymore. He's getting better, but now.

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Speaker 3: He's gotten great, become one of the hardest guys in

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Speaker 3: the league, and a lot of it's coaching and development. Now,

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Speaker 3: Rogers is a tough sack, even if he's not super mobile.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't want to get hit at his age to

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Speaker 3: some degree. The reason why it is changed, Yes, but

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Speaker 3: the ball comes out and his recognition is phenomenal. So

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Speaker 3: if they have a new quarterback and it's more like

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Speaker 3: arians guys took a lot of sacks, which goes back

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Speaker 3: You're gonna take sacks, but you drove the ball down

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Speaker 3: give and take, give and take. I also think when

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Speaker 3: you talk scheme with the run, Arthur Smith, to me,

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Speaker 3: especially early in the year, was a little too reliant

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Speaker 3: on outside zone. And we know it's his foundation, but

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Speaker 3: I would like seeing ten to fifteen percent less. And

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Speaker 3: one thing I thought, you say we wanted about mac Canada,

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Speaker 3: but one thing that he had going when he was

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Speaker 3: is when they were pulling linemen and running a lot

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Speaker 3: more power stuff and man blocking stuff as opposed to

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Speaker 3: the zone stuff, they were killing it, you know, like

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Speaker 3: Roder Jones on the move was a weapon, you know.

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Speaker 3: So I'm hoping this staff implements a little bit more

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Speaker 3: of that, because these are good athletes. I mean, they're

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Speaker 3: not big fat guys you know that just are mauling,

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Speaker 3: you know. And that was actually part of the Dotson

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Speaker 3: problem was he was more of a come at you

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Speaker 3: track guard. Yeah, so his style didn't fit as well

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Speaker 3: But overall, compared to the rest of the league, especially

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Speaker 3: with the direction they're going, I think it's a B

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Speaker 3: plus season from the O line and they're in a

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Speaker 3: B plus spot that I was still an add more

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Speaker 3: to it because I went, I agree to you.

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Speaker 2: There they are B plus with vertical mobility.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, not like we're holding on for dear life. Because frankly,

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Speaker 3: when we talk about Rogers, you're gonna have to be like,

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Speaker 3: he probably isn't trending up.

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Speaker 2: Like he's probably he's probably in that same kind of

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Speaker 2: you know, BB plus territory, but you don't see him.

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Speaker 2: You don't see him jumping up into the a's in

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Speaker 3: A million dollar player that you have to give twenty one.

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Speaker 2: It's time to get the quarterback, Dominos and or in

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Speaker 2: You know, I really enjoy these report card type exercises, Matt,

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Speaker 3: Ya.

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Speaker 2: Black is the and I think Bennett and Bennett Benton

436
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Speaker 2: part of me and Harmon, We've got a pretty good

437
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Speaker 2: idea of what they are. Harmon. From year one to

438
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Speaker 2: year two, we should certainly see growth, but I think

439
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Speaker 2: we've at least got a baseline for those two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I don't know if there's Pro Bowls in

441
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Speaker 3: their future, but I think they're good players, especially if

442
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Speaker 3: you used properly.

443
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Speaker 2: Hy A Black becomes the real wild card of this

444
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Speaker 2: one for me, because if we could view him as

445
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Speaker 2: a Zach Frasier Troy Fultanus, Like if you could look

446
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Speaker 2: at him and easily say he's an ascending guy who's

447
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Speaker 2: good right now and is only going to get better

448
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Speaker 2: and could have you know, a Pro Bowl or an

449
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Speaker 2: All Pro in his future, like we say for some

450
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Speaker 2: of those young pieces on the offensive line, I think

451
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Speaker 2: we'd be feeling much more optimistic about this group. What

452
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Speaker 2: you can get out of ya Black next year, for

453
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Speaker 2: me is a real kicker in terms of how you

454
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Speaker 2: view this unit moving forward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I mixed feelings on him because like when

456
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Speaker 3: the preseason end, not camp, he had a really good

457
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Speaker 3: pres Oh.

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Speaker 2: My gosh, we were crazy high on him in mid August.

459
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Speaker 3: And I thought he might be that guy, you know, like, oh,

460
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Speaker 3: he's definitely get a second contract. I mean, maybe not

461
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Speaker 3: the Fraser's level, but I mean like, this guy's a

462
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Speaker 3: good pick and you're really happy, and you may have

463
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Speaker 3: stolen somebody with where you got him. And people think

464
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Speaker 3: of him more of a nose than he is. I mean,

465
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Speaker 3: he was a three technique at Iowa, which is the

466
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Speaker 3: outside short of a guard, and people are like, well

467
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Speaker 3: just bump him in. Well yeah, but blocks come at

468
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Speaker 3: you different than he was a rookie, and like, I

469
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Speaker 3: think they wanted to keep him as comfortable as possible,

470
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Speaker 3: not a position change and welcome to the NFL. So

471
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Speaker 3: maybe noses in his future, and maybe this staff's se

472
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Speaker 3: them differently because he's built like that. I mean, yeah,

473
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Speaker 3: you mentioned, and he's powerful and all those things, and

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Speaker 3: he can handle doubles and that type of thing. But

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Speaker 3: I also think, based only off rookie film, there was

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Speaker 3: a noticeable difference between preseason and regular season, more than

477
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Speaker 3: you would like, because in the preseason he took a

478
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Speaker 3: bunch of these O linemen they aren't really NFL players,

479
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Speaker 3: and threw them out of the club. Wow, that doesn't

480
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Speaker 3: work against the Ravens and the Bengals and the brown

481
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Speaker 3: I mean, when you're playing starting caliber O lineman, you're

482
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Speaker 3: not even playing the backups in those games Week four

483
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Speaker 3: or whatever. You're playing their best five that day. You're

484
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Speaker 3: not playing their ninth guy. He couldn't just be bigger

485
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Speaker 3: and stronger than Yeah, you know, and.

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Speaker 2: It's good that he can do that against those guys.

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Speaker 3: That's yes, the big, big powerful hand punch.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: If you can't beat the stiffs, guess what you are

490
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Speaker 2: a stiff?

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Speaker 3: Right, right? So he destroyed the stick.

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Speaker 2: He can destroy the stiffs. But how do we translate

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Speaker 2: that the Sundays in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know positionally exactly what he's going to

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Speaker 3: what his life is like in the future.

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Speaker 2: That's where the d actually that could be another new staff,

497
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Speaker 2: different set of eyeballs looks at him and go because hey,

498
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Speaker 2: they they wanted him do an X, Y and Z.

499
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Speaker 2: We're gonna ask him to do a B and C instead, right.

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Speaker 3: Which I think a B and C could be your nose. Now,

501
00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,200
Speaker 3: get used to it, because you're not going to give

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Speaker 3: us enough as an end rushing the pass or getting

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Speaker 3: up field.

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Speaker 2: No, he's not going to do like Harmon Cannon.

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Speaker 3: And bet it'd be it's easier said than done. Everyone's like,

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Speaker 3: why didn't they just do it? Half with the season,

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Speaker 3: you'd love Benton and him to switch positions, you know

508
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Speaker 3: where Benting, you're an end, black your nose. But you

509
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Speaker 3: had to do that like the day they got there

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Speaker 3: and do I mean that's a training camp thing that's

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Speaker 3: on a week six things.

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Speaker 2: As you mentioned, there's many times before there's only so

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Speaker 2: many hours in the week.

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Speaker 3: Bay and you're teaching them fundamentals and things to start,

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Speaker 3: you know, like even how to survive in the league,

516
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Speaker 3: let alone how to change what you're doing. So that's

517
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Speaker 3: easier said than done. Now, I bet if you gave

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Speaker 3: Tomlin truth serum maybe week one of rookie mini camp,

519
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Speaker 3: they would have made that switch. But that's putting a

520
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Speaker 3: lot of pressure on a fourth or fifth round rookie,

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Speaker 3: that's gonna be our nose.

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Speaker 2: Expecting you to be the guy thrown man position in

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Speaker 2: the NFL. But she didn't even really play in college.

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Speaker 2: Right here, Come on and take the reins. On day one.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of things come at you quick. I mean,

526
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Speaker 3: double teams from guards and centers and you know, blocks

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Speaker 3: from all angles. But one of my worries about Black though,

528
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Speaker 3: is he's slow off the ball. I mean, he's the

529
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Speaker 3: last guy off the ball a lot in this league.

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Speaker 3: That's a killer because that means they're getting their hands

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Speaker 3: on you before you are, and all of a sudden

532
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Speaker 3: you're fighting up stream.

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Speaker 2: And is that fixable or improvable?

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Speaker 3: Improvable? I would imagine he'll get better just in year

535
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Speaker 3: two natural progression. But he's not real twitchy either. He's

536
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Speaker 3: not gonna be Aaron Donald. I mean, I mean, his

537
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Speaker 3: first step is not going to be quick, you know,

538
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Speaker 3: so we'll see. But still even if he's like your

539
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Speaker 3: if he keeps seven and six are active on game

540
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Speaker 3: day or whatever, and he's your fifth guy for the

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Speaker 3: next five, six, seven years, great that is value. Great,

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Speaker 3: that is value right right.

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Speaker 2: This is another group, Matt. I think it's it's pretty obvious.

544
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Speaker 3: But the rest of the guys ain't get much out

545
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Speaker 3: of at all. I mean, like all the dudes we

546
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Speaker 3: didn't mention. Yes, there was not much there, and there

547
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Speaker 3: were some games they got gash on the ground.

548
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Speaker 2: There were some games they could have used a guy

549
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Speaker 2: like Logan Lee really coming into his.

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Speaker 3: Own yeah, or even just the lowry inning eater. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you know what I mean, coming here and don't kill us.

552
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Speaker 2: Come in here and be a b yeah. Yeah, and

553
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 2: don't fit. We're not asking you, We're not asking you

554
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Speaker 2: to be an eight plus all pro, but just don't

555
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Speaker 2: come in and give us a D or an F.

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Speaker 3: Benton's getting driven double team's four yard soundfield and he's

557
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Speaker 3: in Peyton Wilson's lap. Don't be that guy.

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Speaker 2: You know, we've talked a lot about kind of a

559
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Speaker 2: roadmap of these top five one hundred or these five

560
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Speaker 2: part of me, let me say that again, roadmap of

561
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Speaker 2: these five top one hundred draft picks that the Steelers

562
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Speaker 2: have in April. I gotta think defensive lines.

563
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Speaker 3: It looks like a really good d tackle draft, So

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Speaker 3: I think I would like to shop in those waters.

565
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Speaker 2: Maybe free agency happens first and they do something there

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Speaker 2: and then it's but like we've talked obviously about quarterback

567
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Speaker 2: and wide receiver, we've talked about getting a little greedy

568
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Speaker 2: on the offensive line. But I think you got to

569
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Speaker 2: add to this group two and I'm not talking about

570
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Speaker 2: for a sixth round.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I said, you said it, grade. I mean, if

572
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Speaker 3: you got five picks on day one and two, I

573
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Speaker 3: think you'd have a hard time not saying one of

574
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Speaker 3: them should bends.

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Speaker 2: Or more one of those on each side of the trenches. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: give me one on an offensive lineman, one on a

577
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Speaker 2: defensive lineman, yeah, one on a receiver. Yeah, and then

578
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Speaker 2: we can and then we can go BPA or whatever

579
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Speaker 2: with some of the others there or whatever. This guy say,

580
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Speaker 2: you know a safety nickel slot hybrid type for us?

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Speaker 2: I think that.

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Speaker 3: I do think the world could be pointing up unless

583
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Speaker 3: Cam falls off a cliff or retires.

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Speaker 2: It should be.

585
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Speaker 3: I mean, if he retires, then all bets are off.

586
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Speaker 2: In terms of maybe that you don't just throw. But

587
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 2: you're right, uh, Keanu Beenton should still have vertical mobility.

588
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 2: Derek Harmon, heading into hen into your two has to improve.

589
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 2: Why you black hen into your two has to improve.

590
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Speaker 3: And frankly the logan Lee's and Lowry's and those dudes

591
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,360
Speaker 3: they're speed bumps, you know. I mean, I thought we'd

592
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Speaker 3: get more out of Lee, because boy, there were a

593
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Speaker 3: lot of good reports out of him in camp. Maybe

594
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Speaker 3: that's books not written, but he didn't influence the game.

595
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Speaker 3: I don't think that he was in.

596
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Speaker 2: No, and he didn't even get that much of a

597
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 2: bite of the apple at a time where they needed

598
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 2: some people to be taking bites of that apple.

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Speaker 3: I thought he'd be that fifth guy. Same and now

600
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 3: he's like a seventh guy, you know.

601
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, same, and hey, guys are allowed to get better.

602
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 2: He's last year was kind of his first true year too,

603
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: because he missed forget the seas. So we'll see if

604
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 2: he can take that leap.

605
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 3: But you know, he's gonna be a camping that's great.

606
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,359
Speaker 3: He absolutely could make the team, and he may be

607
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 3: your fourth or fifth guy. That's possible.

608
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Speaker 2: But this is another position group though, that I'm looking at,

609
00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: and I'm getting greedy. I want, uh yeah, I want

610
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 2: to add another viable and we're not gonna.

611
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Speaker 3: Say that every position folks. Yeah, you're right, you can't

612
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 3: also can't be shocked. Oh, Cam Hayward retired. I didn't

613
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 3: see that coming. I mean this year or next. I

614
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 3: mean it's coming soon, guys, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, if not now, yeah, right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Don't be shocked when it happens, right like, Oh and yeah.

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Speaker 2: You might be able to drive three hundred more miles

618
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Speaker 2: before you need that oil change. But you're still gonna

619
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Speaker 2: need that oil change. It's not going anywhere.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, I'm better do something for Valentine's Day. It's

621
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Speaker 3: coming on February fourteenth, whether I like, don't be shocked

622
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Speaker 3: when on the fourteenth morning when you didn't get any

623
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Speaker 3: candy your flowers because it's coming right crap.

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Speaker 2: I knew I forgot right right. One more segment to

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Speaker 2: go when we return on the other side, Let's get

626
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Speaker 2: to some of your tweets from the past few days.

627
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Speaker 2: And I also got this Steeler's Super Bowl quiz. I

628
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: want to run past Matt Williamson. We'll get to that

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Speaker 2: when we return here and put a bow on the

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Speaker 2: day's proceedings. It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal.

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Speaker 2: Down the home stretch here on the drive on this Tuesday,

636
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Speaker 2: and Matt it is super Bowl week. We have surprisingly

637
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Speaker 2: spent very little time YEA discussing the Super Bowl to

638
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Speaker 2: this point. But obviously there's so much moving and shaking

639
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Speaker 2: in Steeler's land.

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Speaker 3: I haven't paid attention. They didn't like all the media

641
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Speaker 3: hoop line.

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Speaker 2: I think that was that was yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I don't pay any attention to that stuff. I part

644
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Speaker 3: of me the podiums and yeah.

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Speaker 2: I guess it just depends on kind of like how

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Speaker 2: you take it. Yeah, I part of me thinks it's

647
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 2: funny that, like.

648
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: Like Gronk being a goof every year or whatever. I'm like,

649
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Speaker 3: I don't care.

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00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,200
Speaker 2: People show up in a dress and ask that kind

651
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Speaker 2: of stuff. Part of me is like, hey, it's sports,

652
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,440
Speaker 2: it shouldn't be that serious. The other part of me

653
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:13,920
Speaker 2: is like, do we really need to do this.

654
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 3: I just don't have the wave. I just don't pay

655
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 3: Like you.

656
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 2: Know who Dave danishek is, Yeah, yeah, I know pretty well.

657
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 2: Actually he was there yesterday at Super Bowl Media Day

658
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: and he went around asking all the coaches in the

659
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 2: quarterbacks if Sunday's game was a must win, being like

660
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: a tongue in cheek thing, which again part of me

661
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 2: thinks is pretty funny.

662
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 3: I'm cool with that.

663
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 2: The other half of me, he's like, do we really

664
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: need to do this right? You know this? I used

665
00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: to We all had our touch points Dale in pursuita.

666
00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 2: They knew the things that they could say to me

667
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 2: about WVU or hockey to get me going. I knew

668
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:49,560
Speaker 2: the things that I could say to them about how

669
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 2: journalism's a dying are nobody really needs you guys anymore

670
00:30:52,600 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: to get them going. That'd be one of the things

671
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: that I would always you guys talk about the purity

672
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 2: of your industry so much. There's people showing up asking

673
00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 2: on us Super Bowls a must win game for their

674
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: team on Sunday. All right, spare me. You're not riding

675
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 2: on the train with Babe Ruth. But with it being

676
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 2: Super Bowl week here, I saw this on ESPN, Matt,

677
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: and I thought it would just be fun for me

678
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,160
Speaker 2: and you to see how we could do test your

679
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,480
Speaker 2: memory of Super Bowl champions of past.

680
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 3: Oh.

681
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 2: I'll now, as you can imagine, not every NFL team

682
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 2: has a quiz on here, because not every NFL team

683
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 2: has won the Super Bowl or gone somewhat or even gone. Yeah,

684
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,040
Speaker 2: some like the Jets, they've won a Super Bowl, but

685
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: it was many, many moons ago. So I figured that

686
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 2: this would be I haven't looked at this at all.

687
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: I'm gonna click on the Steelers right now, and it's

688
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: ten questions. Let's see how we can peop.

689
00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:41,320
Speaker 3: Are gonna be remarkably shocked. How bad I am at

690
00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 3: this dough. I'm because I always had this conversation with

691
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 3: like Tim Ben's who remembers It blows me away. He

692
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 3: remembers every game and like every piece.

693
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: He's wild with that. Yeah, like I'm somewhere in between.

694
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 3: I'm much more seeing forward. I'm bad at remembering.

695
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 2: I'm somewhere in between you and Benzi.

696
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:58,760
Speaker 3: Then, okay, so let's see.

697
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 2: Ant to be fair, a lot of this stuff was

698
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 2: right in my wheelhouse, Like Bowl super Bowl forty I

699
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 2: was a freshman in high school, super Bowl forty three.

700
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 2: I was a senior in high school. Like those are

701
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,719
Speaker 2: my Steelers, So let's see how we do here. I

702
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: just thought this would be fun, Okay. Question one, Which

703
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 2: quarterbacks started the most games for the two thousand and

704
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 2: eight Steelers. Ben Roethlisberger buying Leftfich, Dennis Dixon or Cordell Stewart. Okay,

705
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 2: I automatically think is this one of those like too

706
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 2: easy to be true?

707
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,200
Speaker 3: Ben right, But it has to.

708
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 2: Be I'm going with Ben. It was it was Ben.

709
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 3: Okay. They were trying to trick you.

710
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 2: They were trying to trick us there. First question, trying

711
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: to trick us with an easy one. Number two, Which

712
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: of these players? Which players scored in the Super Bowl

713
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: for this two thousand and eight Steelers Heith Miller, Nate Washington,

714
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 2: Matt Spaeth or James Harrison.

715
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 3: I know this one.

716
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:49,840
Speaker 2: I think it's James Harrison. It's the Kurt. It's the

717
00:32:49,920 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: Kurt Warner picked six.

718
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, I was thinking that

719
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 3: was in two thousand and eight.

720
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 2: Well, I mean that technically would have been like February

721
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,360
Speaker 2: of two thousand and nine, but it's the two thousand

722
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:57,880
Speaker 2: and eight season.

723
00:32:58,000 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 3: I thought they were trying to I was thinking two

724
00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:04,520
Speaker 3: thousand with Seattle. Yeah that way, obviously that's an easy one.

725
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 4: Yes, very easy one.

726
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 2: Yes. Uh so we're two for two so far.

727
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: I wasn't dumb dumb.

728
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: That same Steelers team. So I don't know, is this

729
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 2: maybe all Super Bowl forty three Steelers. Anyways, Question three,

730
00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 2: which player was which of these following Steelers was a

731
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 2: rookie on the two thousand and eight Super Bowl team.

732
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 2: Brian McFadden, Willie Cologne, Darnell Stapleton or Lamar Woodley. Okay,

733
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 2: I know it wasn't Lamar Woodley because he was part

734
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,760
Speaker 2: of Mike Tomlin's first draft class the year, the year

735
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 2: or two prior.

736
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Speaker 3: I'm going with Willie.

737
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 2: You're going with Willy. My first thought was not Brian McFadden,

738
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: not Lamar Woodley.

739
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't so to Stapleton's he wasn't even drafted.

740
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: I don't think I was thinking about the draft classes.

741
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, hmm, this is when we could use Max starks On.

742
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 2: You want to go with it? I am very confident

743
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 2: that it's either Willy or Darnell, but I'm not sure

744
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 2: which one you want to go Willy. Yeah, it was

745
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 2: Darnell Stapleton. You must have been a starter in that

746
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 2: he must have been on that offensive line. We'll remember

747
00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:06,200
Speaker 2: all the talk in that Super Bowl about how bad

748
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 2: the Steelers offensive line was.

749
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,440
Speaker 3: And I'm sure having that Commerci.

750
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 2: Ben on the podium, you know, holding the Trophy saying

751
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: offensive line. Who's laughing? Now? All right, we're two for three.

752
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 2: Question four, Which member of the Steelers Super Bowl forty

753
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 2: three team is a member of the Pro Football Hall

754
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: of Fame? I know this one, Taylor, Troy Palamalu, Ryan Clark,

755
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 2: Brett keesl easy forty three? Yea, all right, we're three

756
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: out of four. Question five, Which defensive player led the

757
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 2: two thousand and eight Steelers in interceptions? Willy Gay, Deshaye Townsend,

758
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,399
Speaker 2: Tyrone Carter, Troy Polamalu. Is this another one of those

759
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 2: it's too easy to say? Try go and Willy Gay?

760
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 3: Did I think he was a starter?

761
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,319
Speaker 2: Oh? He definitely. He certainly wants to be the.

762
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:47,720
Speaker 3: Guy you pick on like he probably the most targets

763
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 3: against him. That's my logic behind you know what I mean?

764
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,040
Speaker 2: Like part of me feels like this is another easy

765
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 2: the answers Troy and I don't know, but I'm with

766
00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 2: Willy Gay would be my second choice. Let's go with it.

767
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,799
Speaker 3: It was Troy, wasn't I thought that would be too easy.

768
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,879
Speaker 3: Same here, All these are a little too easy. I'm

769
00:35:02,920 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 3: giving these guys too much credit to trying to.

770
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 2: Trick it that Darnell Stapleton won so far. Alright, so

771
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: we're three out of five so far, Matt, Let's see

772
00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: if we can finish strong. Who was the kicker for

773
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 2: the two thousand and eight two thousand nine Steelers? That's easy,

774
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 2: Jeff Reid, Yeah, yeah, come on, all right, we're four

775
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:19,399
Speaker 2: out of six. Question seven, Which member of the two

776
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 2: thousand and eight Steelers had played for ten or more

777
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 2: seasons in the NFL? Casey Hampton, Justin Hartwig, moel Day

778
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,799
Speaker 2: Moore or James Ferrier. Ooh, it wasn't hamp and it

779
00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:33,680
Speaker 2: wasn't Heartwig. Sorry, it wasn't mewel Day Moore. I think

780
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 2: it's hertwig or Ferrier.

781
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:35,880
Speaker 3: It's definitely not More. I was gonna go.

782
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: I think Farrier too, because he played a handful of

783
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,800
Speaker 2: years with the Jets.

784
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 3: I mean he came off his first contry. He was

785
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 3: like the fifth pick in the draft, so he was

786
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 3: there four or five years before he became a Steeler.

787
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 2: Yes, I think it's Fairer. Let's go Farrier. It is

788
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,319
Speaker 2: fair veteran wisdom baby. All right, so we're five out

789
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,359
Speaker 2: of seven so far. Let's keep it going here. Eight.

790
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 2: Question number eight, who scored a touch Which of these

791
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 2: following players scored a touchdown for the two thousand and

792
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:06,520
Speaker 2: eight Steelers Rashard Menenhall, Nause Davenport, Byron Leftwich, Limus suite. Okay,

793
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 2: it's not Rashard men Inhall because anytime, anytime during the season.

794
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 2: It's not men in Hall because he was not drafted yet.

795
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 2: That's a that's a trick one. He was drafted. He

796
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:19,640
Speaker 2: was drafted the next year. Yeah, yeah, Byron Leftwich. Feels

797
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:22,760
Speaker 2: like a left wi played right. Oh yeah, Byron Leftwich

798
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 2: were locking it in, yeah, in for the school.

799
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 3: I assume a passing touchdown counts.

800
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it does. All right, So we're six out

801
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 2: of eight. Question nine, Which member of the two thousand

802
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: and eight Steelers went to college and even played a

803
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:41,359
Speaker 2: little quarterback at Georgia Ward? Hines Ward. Yeah, I don't

804
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 2: even Max is listed as an option here. He would

805
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 2: probably be offended by that because he's a proud Florida

806
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Gator and wants no association with the Georgia Bulldog. It's

807
00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: Hines Ward. Everybody knows that, all right. Last one, can

808
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 2: we finish going eight out of ten? Here? Who carried

809
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 2: the ball on the two thousand and eight Steelers longest

810
00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 2: play from scrimmage in the Super Bowl. Nate Washington, Heath Miller,

811
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 2: Santonio Holmes. Willie Parker carried the ball on the longest

812
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 2: play of scrimmage.

813
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 3: I mean Willie's long run was against Yeah.

814
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,480
Speaker 2: I think Willy's a trick here.

815
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:15,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, I BET's a receiver.

816
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: I think so too. And they did a lot Nate

817
00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: Washington or Santonio Holmes, because I don't think it's Heath.

818
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,320
Speaker 3: I can't imagine Heath.

819
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: They did some of that stuff with tone, but they

820
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: did with Nate Washington too, with the trick place. This

821
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,920
Speaker 2: is a tough one to finish. To finish up here, Washington,

822
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,120
Speaker 2: I think a tone seems too obvious, and I feel

823
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 2: like i'd remember it. Let's go Nate Washington, No, Santonio Holmes. Ah,

824
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: we were in the right ballpark, though, we were, we were,

825
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,279
Speaker 2: but hey, seven out of ten they're not bad, not bad.

826
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:50,880
Speaker 3: All right.

827
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 2: Let's get to some tweets here as we close this

828
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 2: thing down. A few more minutes left, our buddy Michael

829
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 2: Odessio tweets us and he says, West, I say this

830
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 2: with love and all do respect. You keep calling Malachi Lemon,

831
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 2: Mackay Lemon. I know, actually I was thinking about this yesterday.

832
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: Uh he's let me get It's like it reminds me

833
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: of Skyler. Don't call him Tristan Thompson with the crying

834
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: of Boji Motes would be died at this because that

835
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 2: is You're right, it's Mackay Lemon, not Malachi Lemon. Speaking

836
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 2: of Santonio Holmes.

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00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,040
Speaker 3: I've called bos Bosworth many.

838
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: Many times, and I maybe it's just because we were

839
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,400
Speaker 2: just saying Santonio Holmes name there a few times, but

840
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 2: I'll punch used to call him San Antonio Holmes all

841
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 2: the time, all the time, and Wolf would be like

842
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: Chiloach a Super Bowl MVP for crying out loud. Can

843
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: you get the guy's name right, Troloach.

844
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 3: I'm sure I've told this story. But remember Fredrickson was

845
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 3: a really good center for the Cowboysons. Yeah, yeah, well

846
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,320
Speaker 3: we our backup center is a walk on name Rob Fredrickson. Okay,

847
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 3: so I always called Travis Frederickson Rob Frederson. One was

848
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 3: a backup at pitt walk on the other ones like

849
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 3: multiple pro bowler And if you weren't in my shoes,

850
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: it made no sense how you can get those two confused?

851
00:39:07,840 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 3: It's just center Frederickson.

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00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's like, that's hilarious. One we got

853
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 2: like one minute left here a BK tweets of sinced.

854
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:15,800
Speaker 2: We've gotten a couple of tweets like this in the

855
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: last week or so. When will the mock draft start?

856
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 2: No better way to get prospects smart, and it's been

857
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: such a huge party in the past.

858
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: You start knowing the names and maybe next week.

859
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: I think starting next week we do like one or

860
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 2: two round mocks. Yeah yeah, and then after the combine

861
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 2: will really start doing deeper, you know, deeper there.

862
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 3: Especially if the Steelers have five picks, maybe we do

863
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 3: the day one and two.

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00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I get the top one hundred, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 3: But what I don't know is probably was more Dale's

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Speaker 3: job was, like, if we do one on Pro Football Focus,

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Speaker 3: it probably doesn't even have the compicks in there yet.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: It probably isn't.

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Speaker 2: I can I can check it. I can look into

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Speaker 2: that though. Because there's so many different simulators now, I'm

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Speaker 2: sure we can find one that has the comp picks.

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Speaker 2: Last one of the day from Matt he tweets us

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Speaker 2: and says, hey, guys love the show. Dulians know if

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy will be his hands on as Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: when it comes to things like the Senior Bowl and

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Speaker 2: the combine, seems like a lot of head coaches aren't.

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Speaker 2: But Mike Tomlin was curious, if you know about head

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Speaker 2: coach Mike McCarthy, Thanks, guys. It's a good question.

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Speaker 3: He wasn't at the Senior Bowl.

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Speaker 2: He was not at the Senior Bowl, but he's also

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Speaker 2: starting the job for trying to finalize his staff and

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Speaker 2: all those different things.

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Speaker 3: My immediate answer is no, because nine out of ten

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Speaker 3: head coaches aren't.

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Speaker 2: Aren't I mean, was Mike Tomlin was such an outlier And.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I say he was the one on the field

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Speaker 3: barking at the d line at Senior Bowl, like he

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Speaker 3: was the only head coach doing that. Yes, so the

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Speaker 3: answer almost has to be.

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Speaker 2: No, I would I would think. So we'll wait and see.

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Speaker 2: But even with the combine, I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: we'll be able to deduce because that's not as much.

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Speaker 3: Of it there.

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Speaker 2: It's all the assistance, it's all the Mark Gorshack's and

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Speaker 2: right of the world and people like that. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I would. I would think just in all likelihood based

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Speaker 2: off of how you an outlier Mike Tomlin is.

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Speaker 3: Uh, that's a tough one to catch, but that's.

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Speaker 2: That's one will get a better better picture. I'm very

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Speaker 2: interested to Mike watch Mike McCarthy during training camp practices

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Speaker 2: because Mike Tomlin he was, he was everywhere. Will will

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Speaker 2: McCarthy be more of the uh, the stoic kind of

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Speaker 2: hands off guy in those settings, or will will he

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Speaker 2: be particularly with the offense? Will be will be very

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Speaker 2: interested to see.

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Speaker 3: Early indications are he won't be over getting his hands

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Speaker 3: on the d lineman talking about you know, I.

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Speaker 2: Think he'll be doing backs on backers.

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Speaker 3: I think he'll be spending a lot of time with

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Speaker 3: the quarterback. We even still have backs on backers to

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Speaker 3: be determined too. Oh, we still have seven shots to

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Speaker 3: be determined.

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Speaker 2: What are we gonna do without seven How are you

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Speaker 2: and not gonna fill a three hour show at training

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Speaker 2: camp without no matter play by play commentary, seven shots?

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Speaker 2: And more importantly, who gets the stake and lobster in

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Speaker 2: the cafeteria because of the seven shots?

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to answer that, but there's a

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Speaker 3: good chance all that stuff is very different.

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Speaker 2: You ever seen Aladdin? Yeah, a whole new world, a

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Speaker 2: new world, a whole new place. We've never been. Good

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Speaker 2: stuff today, enjoyed the show. We'll keep it rolling. Tomorrow

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Speaker 2: we'll have more of the position group report cards and

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Speaker 2: maybe we'll start getting into some Super Bowl topics as well.

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Speaker 2: But that will do it for today. Thanks to our

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Speaker 2: buddy Chris Adamski for joining us in the first hour.

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Speaker 2: Big shout out to Nate Dog on the ones and

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Speaker 2: twos and mister TV keeping us nice and handsome on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Make sure you're hitting up the YouTube and pumping those

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Speaker 2: numbers up and making TV look good. All right, we

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Speaker 2: got we got contract negotiations down the line. Here, let's

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Speaker 2: pump these numbers up for everybody. Matt good stuff today.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Wesheeler. Take care, everybody. We'll

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Speaker 2: talk to you tomorrow. You know where to find us.

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