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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to Bachelor Happy Hour. I'm Joe

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Speaker 1: and we are here with the one and only Dell

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Speaker 1: moss Dale. Welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I appreciate you'all having me, don It's definitely been

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Speaker 2: a while since I've been on Bachelor Happy Hour, So

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Speaker 2: this is this is fun.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what would that? So you would have been on

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hour during COVID right like.

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Speaker 2: A half years ago and a half years ago. It's

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Speaker 2: it's crazy like time flies. Obviously there's so much life

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Speaker 2: that has happened since then. But yeah, it's been a minute.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So for our listeners, if you don't recall Dale,

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Speaker 1: he was on clear season, got engaged, didn't work out,

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Speaker 1: but now he is back. Dale going all the way

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Speaker 1: back then, how did you How did you get on

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Speaker 1: the show in the first place? The Bachelorette?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I was. I was nominated by someone who's

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Speaker 2: like a little sister to me in New York. I

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Speaker 2: had never watched the show uh before, and she said

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Speaker 2: that you're traveling all the time. Uh, you know, all

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Speaker 2: you're doing is working or on the road, but I

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Speaker 2: never see you dating anyone. And you know, pre before that,

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Speaker 2: I had been in a long term relationship of four

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Speaker 2: years with a great woman and honestly, like there was

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Speaker 2: almost three years. I didn't date anyone. I wasn't on

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Speaker 2: the apps. I wasn't I've never been really a big dater.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, so she nominated me, uh and I told her.

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Speaker 2: I was like, you know, I'm not doing that, and

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Speaker 2: then she was like, no, you got to see it through.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, look, I'll take the interviews if

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Speaker 2: they call, uh, and then I'll go through the process

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Speaker 2: and then we'll just go from there. And uh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I gotta. I got a call when I was in

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Speaker 2: San Diego visit in my family, and uh that was

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Speaker 2: kind of the start of it. And uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: fast forward, I think I committed really late because it

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Speaker 2: was just, you know, a big decision for me. But uh,

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Speaker 2: you know, I I love the experience. It was something

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Speaker 2: that was completely out of left field for me at

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Speaker 2: the time, but kind of like this time, you know,

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Speaker 2: it's just I was doing a lot of really great

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Speaker 2: that's that's kind of how it happened.

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Speaker 3: Nice Yours was the season that was supposed to start

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Speaker 3: filming and then the Pandemic and that got pushed.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, and that's what a lot of people don't realize.

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Speaker 2: So we were actually on set about to do Arrivals,

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Speaker 2: and you know when right before arrivals is when everything

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Speaker 2: shut down, The entire world shut down. So and that

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Speaker 2: so you think about that whole gap that was in between.

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Speaker 2: So it was a really unique experience and we were

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Speaker 2: just in a completely different world. It's it's hard to

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Speaker 2: recall the pandemic, you know, for me at times, there's

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm actually like I was thinking of it the

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Speaker 1: other day and I can't believe, like it's been five years,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it does so crazy. It feels like, yeah, such

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Speaker 3: a crazy time. I can't even imagine because I was

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Speaker 1: They were in Palm Springs. Imagine how hot it was,

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Speaker 2: It was cooking, and like, you know what, I had

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Speaker 2: the productions going into it, it's completely new for them.

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Speaker 2: it's one of the things I loved just being disconnected

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Speaker 2: That's one of the things I miss already from this experience.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, that was that was the number one

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Speaker 1: it feels like one dale you played, how long did

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Speaker 2: So I was in the league for four years, and

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Speaker 2: I bounced around. I was a college basketball and football player,

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Speaker 2: But again, it was, you know, one of the best

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Speaker 2: But it was also, you know, a big transition phase

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Speaker 1: So you are in the entertainment wellness base. Can you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So I went to school for film and I

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Speaker 2: always wanted to direct and produce, and before the Bachelorette

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Speaker 2: But you know, hosting and the sports documentaries are a

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Speaker 1: Nice I went to the spot right here in Austin.

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Speaker 1: Have you heard of it? Coffee and Chill.

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Speaker 2: You know, they have blown up so their model it's

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Speaker 2: You think about it, right, People like I've always admired

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Speaker 3: So that's kind of what you've been doing on the

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Speaker 2: So I was in a long term relationship two and

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Speaker 2: definitely root for, you know, but you know, there's times

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Speaker 3: Your dating patterns kind of interesting because you have, you know,

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Speaker 3: your four year relationship the relationship from the show that

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Speaker 3: of control over how much was shared and how much

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Speaker 3: I think people's biggest question when they see that you're

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Speaker 1: Removed from it, and you didn't really get I would say,

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Speaker 4: So you had a very unconventional time on the show.

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Speaker 2: Because I can't share this with somebody, you know, and

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Speaker 1: Something new going into going into paradise. What are you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so the distance thing is not as big of

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Speaker 2: You know, I build my work and a lot of

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Speaker 2: For me, especially at the stage, it's always going to

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Speaker 1: You seem like you need to keep busy though, that's

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Speaker 2: Like since the time I was a kid, Like I'm go, go,

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Speaker 1: You know, you're able to do what you want to do.

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Speaker 2: I literally walked on the beach. I didn't know a

434
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Speaker 2: single person. And then conversations people are like, oh, do

435
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,480
Speaker 2: you know this person? This person was like, I don't

436
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,400
Speaker 2: know who that is, like, And it wasn't a bad thing.

437
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,639
Speaker 2: It's just, you know, I had my experience on the

438
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 2: basch we're at, and you know, I have friends that

439
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:05,640
Speaker 2: I've met, but I think sometimes like I get so hot,

440
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: like head down or it's like kind of it just

441
00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,040
Speaker 2: wasn't a chapter of my life after the fact, so

442
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 2: in not in a bad, bad way. I was just,

443
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:17,480
Speaker 2: you know, just kind of marching to the beat of

444
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 2: my own drum. But uh, you know, I think it

445
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 2: was a good thing that I went in with no

446
00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: preconceived notions that I didn't know anyone, and I honestly

447
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 2: loved it because I was meeting every single person for

448
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:32,439
Speaker 2: the first time exactly how I saw them, and you

449
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,560
Speaker 2: know they're like like so much love for everyone down there,

450
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 2: Like I had such a good time and like so

451
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 2: many just great people.

452
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,920
Speaker 4: Did you get any advice from anyone before you went down?

453
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:53,920
Speaker 2: I was talking to a few friends and they were

454
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 2: literally just well, it was private. No one knew I

455
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 2: was going on. Like, so I knew people who had

456
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,919
Speaker 2: gone on before, and the number one thing was just

457
00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: like have fun and be yourself. But no one knew

458
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,639
Speaker 2: I was going on. Obviously there's confidentiality and everything. But

459
00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 2: I didn't even make the decision, like the final decision

460
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: until four or five days before we had to be there.

461
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:26,160
Speaker 2: So nice. Yeah, So, and you know, I felt really

462
00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,560
Speaker 2: comfortable with the idea of a new production team. This

463
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,880
Speaker 2: was going to be an entirely new Bachelor in Paradise,

464
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 2: And I think that's one of the biggest things for

465
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,040
Speaker 2: me why I was willing to do it right. I think,

466
00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:43,520
Speaker 2: you know, a fresh take, and it was it was

467
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,560
Speaker 2: just something fresh and new, so like everyone was going

468
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 2: to get a new experience, and I think that is

469
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,199
Speaker 2: something that is so cool because if someone had been

470
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 2: on Paradise before and they might not have had the

471
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,760
Speaker 2: best experience, that's like all wiped out, so you're walking

472
00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 2: into this a fresh slate, and I was going to

473
00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,840
Speaker 2: show up as I am, like, you know, regardless, But

474
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:05,679
Speaker 2: I think that the number one thing is always just

475
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: like be yourself but have fun, Like don't be afraid

476
00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,879
Speaker 2: of like being too polished or this or that. Just

477
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,920
Speaker 2: be yourself and have fun. And that's what I did.

478
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:20,159
Speaker 1: Paradise is definitely an easier setting to allow yourself to

479
00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:23,760
Speaker 1: be yourself. And yeah, just it's way more chill, way

480
00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 1: more laid back. You're on a beach, and you could

481
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,120
Speaker 1: really like after a few days, like I really struggled

482
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:31,880
Speaker 1: day one, my second time in Paradise. Well, your eyes

483
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: really fucking lit up there. I really struggled day one

484
00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: because I in my head, I definitely was I felt like,

485
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, like the I felt like the college kid

486
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: back at like the high school party. I was like,

487
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,639
Speaker 1: what am I doing back here? Like why did you

488
00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 1: come back? Did you have any of those feelings when

489
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: you actually got to the beach, of like did I

490
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: make a mistake? Because now I'm kind of like I'm.

491
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:58,959
Speaker 2: Here, Like when I was walking on the beach, this

492
00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: is before I even talked anyone. There's that moment of

493
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 2: it's like kind of hits You're like, damn a secure

494
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 2: right decision, right, And then people would make jokes like

495
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 2: because I was a little older or whatever, but it

496
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:14,359
Speaker 2: was it was truly like all love. And I think

497
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,680
Speaker 2: the hardest thing for me. And I knew this going in,

498
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: like the idea that you have to like it's almost

499
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 2: like a speed dating a little bit, right, or just

500
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 2: getting to know people and the time moves so fast

501
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 2: and all of these things, and that for me is

502
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 2: so out of my norm Like I've never been on

503
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,680
Speaker 2: a dating app. Like I said, I'm not a big dater.

504
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: I have a lot of friends who you know, women,

505
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 2: and we like never crossed the line. And I'm just like,

506
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 2: I don't know, like I've never like even the idea

507
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 2: of like when people date multiple people like that is

508
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 2: so foreign to me. So that that was the biggest

509
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 2: challenge and kind of how I got through that. I

510
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: was just like, hey, you're getting to know people. Everyone

511
00:26:57,359 --> 00:27:00,440
Speaker 2: signed up for the same thing. If anything, people were

512
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 2: more comfortable than me because they'd been through it or

513
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 2: you know, understood the lay of the land more. And

514
00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 2: I was just like, you know, just be very very clear,

515
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: even if it's not always the easiest to be that way,

516
00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 2: And I always said, like, I don't like there to

517
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 2: be gray area, and I didn't want to leave a

518
00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 2: lot for interpretations. So as long as you like stand

519
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: on that, like, you're going to be good. So that

520
00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 2: was the biggest difficulty. But you know, you get in

521
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 2: the moment and everyone's kind of there for the same thing.

522
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: And at the end of the day too, it's like,

523
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 2: if you're trying to find something, you've got to put

524
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 2: yourself out there. And that's a big thing why I

525
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 2: went on the beach, because you know, that's something that's

526
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: not always the easiest for me.

527
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:48,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, when the cast was announced, what was the reaction

528
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,679
Speaker 3: you were getting from people in your life, people that

529
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:52,959
Speaker 3: follow you on social media?

530
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: Yeah?

531
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you're you were definitely the biggest I would say,

532
00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 1: like shocker.

533
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, like from whatever experience before, a lot

534
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 2: of people are gonna you know, they look at social

535
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,200
Speaker 2: media and news and stuff that happened so long ago,

536
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: so you'll get some negative thing. They're like, oh, I

537
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 2: can't believe Dale's back like this and that. And the

538
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,920
Speaker 2: funny thing is about that is I was more concerned

539
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: about what I had to lose going on a show

540
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: than anything that I would have to gain, right, and

541
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,040
Speaker 2: I had a career well before my first time on

542
00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:35,439
Speaker 2: the Bachelorette and everything like that. But you know, so

543
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:37,920
Speaker 2: there's some of those things that you get. But like, honestly,

544
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: most people were positive. And I think sometimes when you

545
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 2: get noise, you know some of the negative or you know,

546
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,080
Speaker 2: they stand out, it stands out and you have so

547
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 2: much positive. But I you know, I I also know

548
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: that throughout Bachelor Nation, like, I've had so much positive

549
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 2: feedback from people, and a lot of people were excited

550
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,240
Speaker 2: and they're I think also there's so much time that

551
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 2: has passed they're just curious to see how things unfold.

552
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 2: And like, so, you know, there was a little bit

553
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 2: of worry, like I was just going to get like

554
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 2: trashed on Not that it affects me, but it's like,

555
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: all right, here we go. But the reality is, like

556
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 2: things were positive and I don't know, and I guess

557
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: it just all unfolds on screen, so we'll see.

558
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: Nice.

559
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 3: Can you tease a little bit of the season for

560
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: us or give us any little detail.

561
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a new Bachelor in Paradise. I

562
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: can't go into details obviously, but I will say a

563
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 2: lot of people had questions about the Golden twist.

564
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, we just saw the cast for Golden was announced.

565
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 2: It was so amazing to have them there, and I

566
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: think everyone was a little bit like, Hey, how's this

567
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 2: going to work out? It added to the experience, It

568
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 2: brought energy. People were extremely excited, and honestly, it gave

569
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,719
Speaker 2: people a lot more guidance and direction when they were

570
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 2: navigating relationships because they've been through everything you can think

571
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: of in life. I think because they were there, there

572
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 2: was more depth on the show and like, they're not

573
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 2: trying to impress anybody, right, Like, yeah, they don't care

574
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: about a lot of things like the social media aspect

575
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 2: or whatever, like most of them they use it, but

576
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: you know, they they've lived lived a life in full

577
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 2: So I think people are really really going to enjoy

578
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 2: that addition. And for me, that was one of the

579
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: most amazing things about it throughout. And I utilized the

580
00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 2: Goldens early on for like, you know, just guidance, and

581
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 2: I think that's the best thing that they provided. And

582
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 2: they had a lot of fun.

583
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: Well, we are really looking forward to watching you on

584
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: this show. I'm excited to see it. I'm excited to

585
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: see the new format. That was really great talking to you.

586
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll see you around a city. Thank you

587
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: so much for coming on.

588
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I appreciate it. And uh, I think I think

589
00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,960
Speaker 2: everyone's going to be really excited with what comes out.

590
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 2: And I know from the start the cast was was stoked.

591
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's a it's a completely new paradise, that's

592
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: for sure.

593
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't wait.

594
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:21,120
Speaker 1: And to our listeners, thank you so much for tuning in.

595
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596
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Speaker 4: extensive interviews coming your way.

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