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Speaker 1: Welcome into Texas All Access Players Edition Playoff Edition brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Houston Methodists. Later on, we're gonna have

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Speaker 1: Waite Smith on the show. You definitely don't want to

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Speaker 1: miss this. Mark Vandermi, John Harris catching up with as

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Speaker 1: he's out Shire.

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Speaker 2: Is he's out Shire with us in the studio?

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 2: How's it going? Good to see him?

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Speaker 4: It's good to see you guys.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 2: I feel good, man, Always a pleasure. How did feel

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Speaker 2: to get out there against the Tennessee Titans and you know,

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Speaker 2: get all lathered up before the postseason and everything. How

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Speaker 2: did it feel to get your first action in a while?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 4: It felt good.

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Speaker 3: Like It's so funny because it's like I feel like

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Speaker 3: if there was any game or any place I guess

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Speaker 3: other than San Francisco, that that was like the most

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Speaker 3: comfortable I've been, you know, just being in Tennessee all

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Speaker 3: last year. So I think even with the fans, to

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Speaker 3: the players I was playing against and everything, it was,

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Speaker 3: I guess, very comfortable for our first game back, especially

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Speaker 3: after everything that happened the last time I was playing.

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Speaker 6: Okay, is he's let me ask you this, just I'll

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Speaker 6: ask you this and we'll get some some other stuff.

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Speaker 6: But last year, the first time that the Titans wore

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Speaker 6: the Oilers jerseys, did you guys know, as Titans players,

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Speaker 6: how much that like made Houston people pretty upset? Did

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Speaker 6: you know about that at all when you were wearing

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Speaker 6: them last year? So the funny thing like for me personally, no,

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Speaker 6: I didn't know.

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Speaker 3: Like you got guys like obviously Jeffrey Simmons who's been

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Speaker 3: there for a while, Ryan Tannehill as well, like those

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Speaker 3: guys Derek Herry were telling me about it. Yeah, and

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Speaker 3: then I just like when it's kind of coming out

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Speaker 3: that we're wearing them that week, and then started to

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Speaker 3: see like all the stuff that was going on through

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Speaker 3: social media, just the back and forth, and then you know,

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Speaker 3: you start to like ask the equipment guys and people

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Speaker 3: who's been around for years, like just like the history

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Speaker 3: of it all. He's just like, dang, Like, I honestly

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Speaker 3: could understand both sides of it and why people felt

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Speaker 3: the way they do so strongly about it. But at

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Speaker 3: that point, definitely I knew like it meant a lot more.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll get to the playoffs. It's a

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Speaker 2: team game. But I have to ask you this during

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Speaker 2: your time away. What was it like? How do you

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Speaker 2: keep sharp and physically, mentally all of it? Because I

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Speaker 2: know that had to be very tough. And I was

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Speaker 2: there at the United Way event. You were at the

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Speaker 2: day it all came down, and now you're back and

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Speaker 2: it's great to see it. But that had to be

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Speaker 2: tough to get through.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, sir, I mean that's crazy because, like like

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Speaker 3: I said, I mean, you guys know my story, everything

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Speaker 3: I've been through just in my life, and I think

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Speaker 3: I don't think people understood, you know, I don't think

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Speaker 3: the NFL even understood when they said what they said

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Speaker 3: in that letter, the ramifications that it did to me,

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Speaker 3: you know, and just my character of my just everything

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Speaker 3: my whole career, you know, because now it essentially turned

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Speaker 3: my entire career into you know, this letter that framed

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Speaker 3: it as me being this dirty player and all this

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Speaker 3: crazy stuff. And anybody who whether you watch football or not,

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Speaker 3: but if you're not paying attention to me, you know,

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Speaker 3: throughout my career, you just automatically just going with whatever the.

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Speaker 4: NFL said, you know. So for me, it was just

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Speaker 4: it was really hard.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 3: It was hard because I didn't I just didn't want

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Speaker 3: you know, media is media, fans they love you one day,

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Speaker 3: that the next day. And I think just coming from

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Speaker 3: like your peers essentially working with you know, the league,

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Speaker 3: we're under the same shield, were under the same umbrella.

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Speaker 3: So I think for me that part just hurt because

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Speaker 3: it just obviously was not true at all. And you know,

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Speaker 3: I think the part where I was finally able to

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Speaker 3: football and things is after having you know, the meeting

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Speaker 3: that I had with them and you know, them acknowledging

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Speaker 3: that the things that they said were wrong, and you know,

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Speaker 3: it was supposed to be a whole bunch of stuff

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Speaker 4: But it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: I'm just happy to be back playing football and back

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Speaker 3: doing what I love. But it was hard, like nonetheless,

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Speaker 3: like everything I've been through in my entire life, that

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Speaker 3: is right up there with with with the hardest things

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Speaker 6: See, I want to just follow one thing and then

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Speaker 6: we'll move on from because I know it's probably not

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Speaker 6: something you really want to talk about, but it's a

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Speaker 6: tough moment. And we've talked to you about the things

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Speaker 6: that you've gone through in your life and people that

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Speaker 6: you've relied upon. I remember talking to you about San Francisco,

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Speaker 6: like earlier in your career. You sat in the car

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Speaker 6: with the Miko and y'all, just y'all just hammered it.

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Speaker 4: Out, just talk for hours.

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Speaker 6: Who or what was the biggest thing to get you

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Speaker 6: through that time period. Because when you go through adversity

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Speaker 6: and you talk about this being a brotherhood here in

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Speaker 6: the building.

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Speaker 2: Were there people in the building that you talk to.

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Speaker 6: Were there are people outside the building your family, who

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Speaker 5: For you?

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Speaker 4: I think it was a mixture of everyone.

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Speaker 3: I mean from family, friends, teammates, former teammates, coaches, coaches

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Speaker 3: I used to play for, I mean, random people that

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Speaker 3: I did something for, like back in high school. I

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Speaker 3: have the same cell phone number since I was in

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Speaker 3: high school, so like this, I first ever got a

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Speaker 3: whether via social media, or through my phone number about

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Speaker 3: them reminding me of something I might have did for

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Speaker 3: them years and years and years ago that I honestly

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Speaker 3: when I wrote the letter that I wrote when I

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Speaker 3: came back last week, the part that you know, when

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Speaker 3: I was just sitting there thinking and the only thing

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Speaker 3: get getting this positive reinforcement from all these different people

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Speaker 3: and people that were in my past from years and

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Speaker 3: years ago. Was just the analogy that I had said about,

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Speaker 3: you know, the seed of goodness that you plant in

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Speaker 3: shade of you know, compassion that you get later on

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Speaker 3: when you're at your lowest.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I felt.

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Speaker 3: I just felt like it was like this shield of

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Speaker 3: the impact that I made on people's lives in the

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Speaker 3: smallest way, blocking out the negativity that I.

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Speaker 4: Was just being rained down on.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, it was it was a little bit of

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Speaker 2: How if it all does it affect your play? Do

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Speaker 2: you feel sort of liberated being out there on the

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Speaker 2: field again, like this is my happy place, for lack

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Speaker 2: of a better way of putting it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy because it's like it was weird. Man,

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Speaker 3: it's like one hundred percent. I think that's why. Also

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Speaker 3: is a crazy feeling when everything happened, because you know,

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Speaker 3: football so much and why I love the game so

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Speaker 3: much is because it was the one place for me,

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Speaker 3: especially growing up homeless and the things I experienced where

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Speaker 3: being judged prematurely before I ever got to say a word,

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Speaker 3: you know, in the real world, that's the reality. But

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Speaker 3: the thing about football that I love, and you know

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Speaker 3: judged by what you put on tape, nothing else. It's

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Speaker 3: all about what you do. And for me, I think

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Speaker 3: that is just like the thing that drew me to

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Speaker 3: the hard work that I put in and then the

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Speaker 3: way I played like that's what people judge me off of.

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Speaker 3: And then once they saw, oh, this guy is a

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Speaker 3: I think it was just a liberating feeling in that

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Speaker 3: way because it was like, Wow, this is a one

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Speaker 3: not how I look. Nobody looked at me and said, oh,

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Speaker 3: that the elbow brakesy words is kind of cool.

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Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, it's kind of cool.

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Speaker 3: Cool, But you want to see what I'm gonna do

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Speaker 3: on Sunday, you know, on game day. And I just think,

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Speaker 4: But in that moment where now I'm.

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Speaker 3: Being like ridoiculed about it, it definitely turned the other way,

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Speaker 3: I'm good, Like I'm back, like it is what it is.

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Speaker 3: Everything happened, but like I'm still here, I'm still standing,

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Speaker 3: and you know, I definitely think like moving forward, you know,

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Speaker 3: I'm in a way better space.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely playoffs Saturday, first time back in the playoffs since

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Speaker 6: for you twenty two game in Philly.

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Speaker 4: That was the last one.

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Speaker 6: And I know that one left the bad taste in

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Speaker 6: y'all's mouth because brockets knocked out of that game and

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Speaker 6: gets Philly, And now you're going back and forth. Josh

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Speaker 6: you brock is basically handed off and I know that'd

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Speaker 6: be a tough way to be in the playoffs, and

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Speaker 6: your last playoff memory is that, But now you've got

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Speaker 6: a new opportunity of memories here. How are you feeling

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Speaker 6: about Saturday mentally physically? How do you feel getting ready?

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Speaker 6: And how do you feel his defense is ready for

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Speaker 6: almost in San Diego, Los Angeles. There we go on Saturday.

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Speaker 4: Man, you're good. I get fined. I got fined. No, honestly,

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Speaker 4: I'm super excited.

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Speaker 3: I Mean, the thing about playoff football, it's like you

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Speaker 3: know all season long, you know you and you truly

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Speaker 3: do believe it, and I think you know some of

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Speaker 3: the best teams you have to be It's a week

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Speaker 3: to weekly and that's that's the NFL at its finest.

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Speaker 4: If you look so far ahead.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, all these different teams that I

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Speaker 3: played on, you know, different years I played, even in

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Speaker 3: San Francisco, we knew the type of team we had,

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Speaker 3: We knew how good we could be, but we knew

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Speaker 3: it was a week to weak thing and you gotta

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Speaker 3: take it one week at a time. And so I think,

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Speaker 3: now it's here, like the playoffs are here, and it

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Speaker 3: literally is, you know, winn or go home.

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Speaker 4: It's a week.

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Speaker 3: It's a week like you don't know who the hell

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I do think that it can definitely cause that,

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Speaker 6: Get to meet going here and I always love to

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Speaker 6: but I always get it from his perspective and he's

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Speaker 4: What's that like kind of having him.

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Speaker 4: What was it like having your mom or your dad

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Speaker 2: My dad was on my coaches, so I can tell

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Speaker 3: So it's so funny because I mean it's a relationship

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Speaker 3: But I mean he's he's been in my ear for

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Speaker 3: he's just like, oh my god, like it could be

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Speaker 3: Like he can probably break down every single play out

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Speaker 3: like that's why he's in a position he's in, that's

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Speaker 3: he's This is the way I tell you know, all

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Speaker 3: the guys, it's like your coaches are like parents that

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Speaker 3: I got to handle all the bs behind it. But

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Speaker 3: But that's the best way to explain it to where

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Speaker 3: he wants to play, he could, he'll play. That's why

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Speaker 4: Game, but you can't play it.

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Speaker 3: And I think that's that's the thing where for me,

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Speaker 3: I got to just try to, you know, bridge that

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Speaker 2: He's do you feel like you're like Demiko in a

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Speaker 2: But when we first talked with you TV production meeting,

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Speaker 2: Do you see the Miko and see you? Do you

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Speaker 3: It's so funny because like I see myself as me,

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Speaker 3: And then obviously when I learn and hear more and

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Speaker 4: That's your dad.

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Speaker 3: That's your dad, Like shut up, Like he's a mess

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Speaker 6: So it's these for people that don't know, and I

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Speaker 4: You're a drafted Come on, FAU.

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Speaker 5: It was a joke.

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Speaker 6: I remember seeing you year senior year at FAU and

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Speaker 4: Do you still play with that chip on your shoulder?

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Speaker 3: Because I think for me, it's just the constant reminder,

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Speaker 3: Like this is real business. You go watch tape like

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Speaker 3: you know, I think for me, you know, my name

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Speaker 4: So I think for me.

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Speaker 3: Understanding that political aspect of how how the league can

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Speaker 3: sure when we leave here, they know exactly who you

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Speaker 3: are and what we're about. Because yeah, like every time

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Speaker 3: you step on that field, it's your chance to show

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Speaker 3: whoever wherever, if they watching or if they're playing, Like, Hey,

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Speaker 3: I don't know who's zero.

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to say his last name. I

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Speaker 4: don't know. You know, people used to just even so

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Speaker 4: funny with you. You got here.

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Speaker 3: You know, I knew him already, but he was just like, man, still,

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Speaker 3: I still couldn't pronounced your name, right. I just knew

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Speaker 3: you had the elbow breaks. I'm like, you know what

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Speaker 3: I'm saying. So it's like, whatever, you recognize me. One

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Speaker 3: thing about it. When you see that tape, it's gonna

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Speaker 3: speak for yourself. And if you got to play against me,

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Speaker 3: then I'm gonna just show you disease.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff. We could visit all day. Thanks so much

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Speaker 2: for joining us in best of luck against Thanks.

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Speaker 4: For having me.

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Speaker 1: That was Mark and John with a Zi's out Shire.

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Speaker 1: Coming up next, Wade Smith on Texans Radio Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: Welcome Back Texans Radio Players Edition aka the Playoff Edition,

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Speaker 1: brought to you by Houston Methodist. Always great to have

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Speaker 1: this former player in the studio with us. Wade Smith

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Speaker 1: joining us again to talk a little playoff football. I am,

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Speaker 1: indeed he is, Mark Vandermer, You are you, and we

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Speaker 1: appreciate you listening to us. It's exciting, you know, for

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Speaker 1: our former teammate, our guy, Demiko Ryans. Two years as

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Speaker 1: a head coach, two years going to the playoffs. So

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Speaker 1: let's just talk about going into the playoffs. You're feeling

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Speaker 1: on this team? Yeah, man to ten win seasons. Now

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Speaker 1: you're in the in the dance. And if you're in

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Speaker 1: the dance, you got a chance.

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Speaker 7: And I'm happy for Demico having put it the Houston

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Speaker 7: Texans because they have an opportunity now to go on

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Speaker 7: a run. But first things first, you gotta handle business

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Speaker 7: against the Chargers, a formidable opponent that's coming in NRG

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Speaker 7: on Saturday at three point thirty pm, like it's every

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Speaker 7: other time in the playoffs, and so it's our tradition,

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Speaker 7: and so it's time for us to hold serve and

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Speaker 7: handle business at home.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of handling business, I'll speaking with Mark last week

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Speaker 1: about how they're going to take care of business against Tennessee.

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Speaker 1: I had my thoughts, but I thought the way it

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Speaker 1: played out was perfectly and I just want to get

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Speaker 1: your take on how they use the starters for on

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Speaker 1: the offense for the first couple of drives and take

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Speaker 1: then they take them out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, and I thought like you did. I

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Speaker 2: think we were in agreement, like shit, everybody you can right,

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Speaker 2: but Demico played it his way and he played it

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Speaker 2: the right way because it all worked out. You have

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Speaker 2: CJ going six for six, hoping drive hits Nico for

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Speaker 2: the touchdown, goodbye to CJ and Mix and the rest

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Speaker 2: of the game. Nico stayed in a little longer. The

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Speaker 2: on line stayed in longer than that, but eventually got

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Speaker 2: everybody out just about. And you can't take everybody out,

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Speaker 2: you guys know, fifty three man roster. But I thought

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Speaker 2: they handled it well. So on a short week, because

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Speaker 2: it's a six day week, you get a lot of

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Speaker 2: guys who didn't play much, but they kind of got

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Speaker 2: their feet wet, they worked up a lather, they had

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Speaker 2: some success. I think they erased not maybe completely, because

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Speaker 2: you still have the issues. Whatever happened to you against

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Speaker 2: Baltimore did happen, and you got to correct those things.

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Speaker 2: But you feel better about things going into the week.

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Speaker 2: You guys tell me wait after an outing like that. Look,

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Speaker 2: it wasn't like you were playing a juggernaut. You're playing

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Speaker 2: the Titans. But just to get a win the way

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Speaker 2: they did, everybody I sensed the joy, everybody having fun.

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Speaker 4: Again.

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Speaker 2: I thought that was important, and I think the coach

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Speaker 2: thinks it's important as well.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I don't want to discredit the Titans

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Speaker 7: too much, even though I don't like that organization or

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Speaker 7: that team, and I haven't for a long time now,

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Speaker 7: but that defense is a legitimate defense. That defense is

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Speaker 7: top two or three in the in the in the league.

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Speaker 7: And so for what the Textans were able to do offensively,

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Speaker 7: because they left it, they had their defensive guys in

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Speaker 7: the entire game. So the fact that the offense went

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Speaker 7: down there and CJ went six for six and had

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Speaker 7: a touchdown pass Nico Collins and were able to run

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Speaker 7: the ball throughout the game. But Joe Mixon was able

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Speaker 7: to get his feet wet and get some good carriers

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Speaker 7: in there as well. I thought it was a very

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Speaker 7: productive day that you can kind of look at if

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Speaker 7: you're an offensive lineman for the Houston Texas, if you're

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Speaker 7: an offensive player for the Houston Testings and you say

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Speaker 7: to yourself, we played well against an upforminable, a really

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Speaker 7: good opponent, and so you can take that with you

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Speaker 7: and carry that what you're going forward, especially after some

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Speaker 7: of the things that have happened over the past few weeks.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this mark you hesitated to say. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: erase the feeling or memory of the Baltimore game, right

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Speaker 1: or wrong or indifferent. For the players, it does. And

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Speaker 1: now on the outside looking in, obviously you have to

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Speaker 1: bring logic into it and say, you know what, they

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Speaker 1: still need to take care of this, that or the

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Speaker 1: other to have a successful playoff run. But for the players,

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Speaker 1: like right now, they're still riding off the joy of

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Speaker 1: seeing Damian Pierce, you know, mak a ninety two yard touchdown.

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Speaker 1: They're writing off the joy of Barnett and what he

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Speaker 1: did as a defensive end. So I think it does

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Speaker 1: erase that feeling. And today, as we're sitting here talking

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Speaker 1: about the game that's coming up, they're working their tail off,

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Speaker 1: but with a smile on their face, with a little

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Speaker 1: extra pep in their step because it's just all about momentum,

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Speaker 1: and we always talk about it. We always talk about

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Speaker 1: the Janet Jackson's on what have you done for me lately?

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Speaker 1: And for the Texas they won, They won, and they're

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Speaker 1: going into the playoffs. Writing the momentum off of victory.

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Speaker 2: I also think psychologically for me, for what I do,

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Speaker 2: it helps to get the tenth win. There's something about

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Speaker 2: the double digits. And I know you could say, you

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Speaker 2: know the value of winning versus not the value of

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Speaker 2: ten wins versus not. Look, you have to play well

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Speaker 2: on Saturday. We all get that. But you tell me, Wade,

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Speaker 2: what about getting that tenth win? Double digit wins back

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Speaker 2: to back seasons. They're building a program here. Look, we

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Speaker 2: all want to see them successful on Saturday. I'm excited

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Speaker 2: about not just Saturday, about the whole future of this thing,

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Speaker 2: based on what they've done so far and what they

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Speaker 2: can do in the future.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think ten wins is important. I think double

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Speaker 7: digit wins is important. I think when you look at

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Speaker 7: teams that get into the playoffs that are you used

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Speaker 7: to be back in the day eight and eight or

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Speaker 7: a seven and nine, They kind of backdoor their way

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Speaker 7: into the playoffs. A lot of times it's just not

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Speaker 7: a good feeling or there's not a lot of confidence

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Speaker 7: in what that team can do, because you know that

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Speaker 7: half the time they went out there, they lost the

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Speaker 7: ball game, and so going forward and how's that going

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Speaker 7: to translate in the playoffs. But I do think the

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Speaker 7: biggest thing is that you were able to get that

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Speaker 7: win playing the game the way that you want to

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Speaker 7: play the game. Defensively, did a good job of controlling

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Speaker 7: the Titans. They weren't able to run the ball very much.

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Speaker 7: They made a play on kind of a fluke play

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Speaker 7: a little later bit in the game, but the defense

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Speaker 7: played well.

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Speaker 5: They were able to get out to the quarterback.

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Speaker 7: Multiple guys up front of the D line had success

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Speaker 7: rushing the passer. But then there are two main guys

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Speaker 7: on the D line weren't even playing in a game.

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Speaker 7: So it just kind of shows you the depth that

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Speaker 7: you have upfront, and you know those are going to

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Speaker 7: be the guys that are going to be huge this

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Speaker 7: week against Justin Herbert.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, Herbert will talk about him. I mean, he's just

589
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Speaker 2: a menace, and they've got him in a situation where

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Speaker 2: the numbers aren't as voluminous as they were in previous

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Speaker 2: years because they're playing it's not constrained, but they're playing offense.

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Speaker 2: In a different way. They're really focusing on the run.

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Speaker 2: Herbert's still making a lot of throws. Yardage total a

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Speaker 2: little bit down, but it's definitely something to deal with.

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Speaker 2: They're well coached by Jim Harbaugh. A few other things

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Speaker 2: about the momentum, you know from the outside. You know,

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Speaker 2: we'll talk about Rex Ryan too. You know, he said, oh,

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Speaker 2: this is like a bye They're getting a lot of

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Speaker 2: disrespect in the sports world based on I think everyone

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Speaker 2: saw Christmas Day and they're they're reacting to that most

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Speaker 2: of all. Now, there have been some other games that

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Speaker 2: haven't gone the way they wanted, but they're ten and

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Speaker 2: seven and they're in the postseason. So you guys, tell me,

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Speaker 2: how do the players And this is why I love

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Speaker 2: having players on these shows. How do the players feel

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Speaker 2: this week out all that stuff versus you know, what's

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Speaker 2: really going on, Practice today, practice tomorrow, play a game

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Speaker 2: on Saturday against a good team. How are the players feeling?

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Speaker 7: Man any type of edge you can get, you're gonna

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Speaker 7: take it. And so when people are talking disrespectfully about you,

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Speaker 7: and people are looking at you as though you know

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Speaker 7: you're you're a bye week or whatever that might be,

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Speaker 7: that adds just a little bit of extra to to

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Speaker 7: your preparation, or adds a little bit extra to when

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Speaker 7: you're finishing blocks and when you're finishing tackles and being

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Speaker 7: physical when you actually get into that ball game. And

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Speaker 7: it also takes some pressure off of you to be

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Speaker 7: honest with you like when you when you look at it,

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Speaker 7: I would much rather be an underdog if I'm in

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Speaker 7: a situation to where you know, I'm playing against an

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Speaker 7: opponent and I'm at home and people are gonna say

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Speaker 7: that this person is gonna come into my house and

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Speaker 7: take food off my plate. Yeah, let I'll put money

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Speaker 7: on it. That's not gonna happen. You know, I'm gonna

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna handle my business and be able to control

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Speaker 7: my own destiny of what's gonna go on. And so

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Speaker 7: I like to be the underdog, and I like for

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Speaker 7: people to not feel like I can, because that just

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Speaker 7: gives you that extra incentive to prove them wrong. And

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Speaker 7: so I'm all for for people as many people that

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Speaker 7: want to hate Rex Ryan or whoever want to you know,

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Speaker 7: the Chargers were saying they were cheering when they've heard

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Speaker 7: that the the what you call it lost the game.

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Speaker 7: So that they were gonna they weren't have to go

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Speaker 7: to they weren't gonna have to play the Ravens. They

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Speaker 7: were going to be able to come play us.

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Speaker 5: Good. You know, be careful what you wish for.

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Speaker 7: You got to come in here and win a ball game,

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Speaker 7: and we're gonna make sure we do everything. It's possible

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Speaker 7: that you're not able to do that.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, I didn't realize Rex Ryan made that statement.

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Speaker 1: And I'm not a big bulletin board guy, but in

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Speaker 1: this scenario, especially with the type of players that are

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Speaker 1: in that locker room, and for those listening behind us

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Speaker 1: behind our studios, the textan locker room, I think they

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Speaker 1: will feed off that. So if I'm the Miko Ryans

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Speaker 1: at practice, I'm putting that on the on the speaker,

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Speaker 1: you know, Rex Ryan stating that this is a bye week.

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Speaker 1: I'm posting the cheers. You know, if the San Diego

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Speaker 1: charge excuse me, the l A Charger fan base, Fine, fine,

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Speaker 1: it shows my aides. But the Charger fan base cheering

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Speaker 1: because they feel that it's going to be an easier

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Speaker 1: route coming to Houston.

654
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Speaker 5: No, it wasn't. It was the players.

655
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 4: Oh that's even worse.

656
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 5: Exactly what you wished were.

657
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 7: It wasn't the fan base, it was the actual Herbert

658
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 7: said he was in his meeting or he was watching

659
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 7: film in one of the quarterback meeting rooms, and he

660
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 7: heard cheers in the other room once Pittsburgh lost, So

661
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 7: they knew that they were going to come here to

662
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 7: play Houston. So I'm like, okay, be careful what you

663
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 7: wish for. You're excited about coming here, We're gonna send

664
00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 7: you home with a l.

665
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,439
Speaker 1: I'm actually surprised at that. And and Wade, you know,

666
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm a little older than you, but back in our day,

667
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:40,960
Speaker 1: back in our era, I felt like we had so

668
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 1: much respect for any team that made a playoff that

669
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:48,000
Speaker 1: you weren't really And again, if your experience is different,

670
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: let the listeners know. But I don't ever remember, uh

671
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: And we played a many playoff games. Ever, remember saying, oh,

672
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: we want to play this team because it's going to

673
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: be easier, you know what.

674
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 7: To be with you, I think that they they are

675
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 7: afraid of the Ravens. That's that's about being afraid of

676
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 7: them as oppose us. But I don't care. I'm gonna

677
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 7: use it this way. You still gotta deal with us.

678
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 7: Like you were afraid of them, but you gotta deal

679
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 7: with us. So, I mean that's how you. It's any

680
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 7: edge you can get. It just reminds me of the

681
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 7: stories of of like Michael Jordans creating a whole narrative

682
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,760
Speaker 7: about a guy that he didn't even know who the

683
00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 7: guy was, that the talk mores about him. He goes

684
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,480
Speaker 7: and puts forty on him whatever, and the dude never

685
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 7: said anything about whatever. Whatever you gotta do, that is

686
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,480
Speaker 7: gonna get you a little bit more amped up, a

687
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 7: little bit more focused, a little bit more ready for

688
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 7: you know, paying attention to attention to details. Anything that

689
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:43,840
Speaker 7: you can do to get an edge, you're gonna use that.

690
00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 7: And this is winning time, like you is win or

691
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,480
Speaker 7: go home. So anything that you can get, I'm gonna

692
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 7: take it. And so yeah, I'm gonna take it as disrespect.

693
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: I'll say this if if I'm a Charger fan or

694
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 1: work on that side of it, I'll be a little

695
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: bit bothered thinking that my team that I'm rooting for,

696
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 1: it is thinking, oh good, we're playing this team. So

697
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: it kind of takes the edge off of them, like

698
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 1: they just think they're just gonna show up and get

699
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: the dub that's all right, that they better be careful.

700
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 1: That's interesting. I never heard about that, but when I

701
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: heard you explain it, I just assumed it had to

702
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,240
Speaker 1: be the fan because players aren't wired like.

703
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,000
Speaker 7: Yeah, and you got to think about it, like you said,

704
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 7: the way players are wired. Listen, we don't care who

705
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 7: we got to play against, right because if you want

706
00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 7: to win it all, you have to beat everybody. You

707
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 7: have to beat good football teams in order to be

708
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:36,080
Speaker 7: a champion. And so we're not dodging anybody. I'm not

709
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 7: ducking any opponents. This isn't boxing to where if you

710
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 7: keep a perfect record, then you know you make more money.

711
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 7: Now you have to beat whoever's that they put in

712
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 7: front of you. So you're not ducking anybody. So for

713
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 7: their players to be, in my mind, ducking people that

714
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 7: already shows me what type of mentality you have anyway,

715
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 7: and then that's when I'm like, be careful what you

716
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 7: wish for. You got to come in and deal with us.

717
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 7: We are a division champion for a reason, you know.

718
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 7: So like I said, there's a lot of teams that

719
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 7: have come here that the Texans. You know, last time

720
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:10,719
Speaker 7: I checked the number two seed in the league, came

721
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,240
Speaker 7: into here and they look terrible playing against the Houston Texans.

722
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 5: So we'll see what the Charges do on Saturday.

723
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, I think nd you said it that that's

724
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: a fan mentality almost. It's a fan mentality to think

725
00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 2: that way and Wade you two and you don't want

726
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: to be ducking anybody. The Ravens have to feel great

727
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: about that. Hey, look, nobody wants to play us. We're

728
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 2: so good and I'll admit it. You know, this is

729
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: me talking out the team of all the high seeds

730
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 2: in the AFC. Like next week, if you win this one,

731
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: you go to Kansas City in all likelihood, although things

732
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: can change because the seeding holds of Chiefs will play

733
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 2: the lowest remaining seed next week. But if you go

734
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 2: to Kansas City, I'd rather actually go there than the

735
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,400
Speaker 2: Ravens and maybe even Buffalo based on weather and the

736
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: Bills Mafia and all that. We were just up in

737
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 2: Kansas City and look that was It should have been

738
00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 2: a seventeen to seventeen game in the second half, but

739
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 2: we all know it kind of unraveled from there. But

740
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 2: it was still a one score game at the end

741
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,120
Speaker 2: of the day. So I don't know. I think it's

742
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,840
Speaker 2: really interesting and I hope that Demico does something with it.

743
00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: I'd be surprised if he doesn't do something. I don't

744
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 2: know if we'll hear about it though. That's another thing.

745
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 5: Wait.

746
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you about this because the Bengals

747
00:32:21,080 --> 00:32:26,400
Speaker 2: game Part two, the twenty twelve playoffs, all right, you

748
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 2: had that and I think we talked about this a

749
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: bit last time, where you had the rough finish in

750
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: twenty twelve, losing three out of four, and you had

751
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 2: that short week. You know, we're flying home from Indy.

752
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 2: They beat the Texans, so you lose the bye, lose

753
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: top seed throughout, and now you got to play in

754
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 2: a short week against the Bengals and they were really hot.

755
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 5: Right then.

756
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 2: That was the second year with Dalton and all those guys,

757
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,200
Speaker 2: and all of a sudden, oh we got to beat

758
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: this team. What was that week?

759
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 5: Like?

760
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,400
Speaker 2: What are your recollections of that week? Getting ready to

761
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: play that team on a short week. This year is

762
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: not like that to me, in that you had the

763
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: benefit of beating a Titan, so you do have a

764
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 2: good positive feeling coming into the postseason, and you knew

765
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: you weren't going to get the buye. Anyway, that was

766
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: you lose the bye and by the way, tomorrow we're

767
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 2: back to work because we got.

768
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 7: To play on Saturday. Yeah, that's a really good question.

769
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 7: And and after that game, I was, I was pissed, man,

770
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 7: and a lot of us. Would you just you really

771
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 7: you realize, like what type of opportunity you blew? You

772
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,160
Speaker 7: were We were in the driver's seat to have a

773
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 7: lot of good things, a week off of rest, a

774
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 7: lot of things that could have helped us, and we

775
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 7: blew that opportunity. So I was, I was upset, and

776
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 7: you know you were upset, but then you were also

777
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 7: glad because you got to play again on Saturday. You

778
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 7: didn't have to wait because once when when things go wrong,

779
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 7: you want to get out there as fast as you

780
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,880
Speaker 7: can to right your wrongs. It's kind of like like

781
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 7: after that Ravens game. I'm sure guys would have wished, like, man,

782
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 7: I wish we could play like in five six days,

783
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 7: because people are going to be talking about this for

784
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 7: and we're gonna have to hear about it, and people

785
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,600
Speaker 7: walking around the building on eggshells and people are tight,

786
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 7: and but if you go out there and play, then

787
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,319
Speaker 7: all that that that goes off. I'm sure there was

788
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 7: some of that feeling from the guys once they played

789
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:16,240
Speaker 7: the Titans. Guys had fun out there and they played well,

790
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 7: and so that that tension and that tightness and that

791
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,359
Speaker 7: you know, that that concern that you know, maybe things

792
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 7: aren't gonna work out the right way, it goes away

793
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:25,960
Speaker 7: when you have an opportunity to go out there and

794
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,799
Speaker 7: exercise those demons. So that week I was, like I said,

795
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,880
Speaker 7: I was upset because we we we blew a great

796
00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 7: opportunity against a team that, you know, we just felt

797
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:38,400
Speaker 7: like we were better than the Coats and we should

798
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 7: have went up there and ran the football down their

799
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:41,960
Speaker 7: throat that we would have won. We didn't do that,

800
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:44,880
Speaker 7: so we didn't win. And then you know, but you

801
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 7: also knew you were playing against Cincinnati, that was a

802
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,960
Speaker 7: good team, but you also felt like that that was

803
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,840
Speaker 7: a team that we had their number. We knew that

804
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 7: we would go out there and play well against them,

805
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 7: and we also knew that we were going to see

806
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 7: New England again. That was just kind of we were

807
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 7: building towards that. Cincinnati was just the team that was

808
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 7: in the way, and Cincinnati was a team that you

809
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 7: knew that you had to go out there and play

810
00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:08,799
Speaker 7: well in order to beat them, But there there was

811
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:12,239
Speaker 7: no there was no hesitation, no lackly We just had

812
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 7: a belief that we were going to go out there

813
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:16,080
Speaker 7: and get it done, and so that's.

814
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 5: What we ended up doing.

815
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: I thought that was a good performance, really, I thought,

816
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 2: considering they were on a pretty good streak coming in

817
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: and the Texans were not, and you had to get

818
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 2: it together quickly, and I thought you handled it really

819
00:35:28,760 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 2: well and you were able to win the playoff game.

820
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 2: And I know the fans that was a rough week

821
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 2: as far as the fan voice goes, because oh my gosh,

822
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,400
Speaker 2: what you just do? And then we don't want to

823
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,520
Speaker 2: see the Bengals again. We just did this last year.

824
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 2: It was the second year in the playoffs, and we're

825
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 2: already sort of I don't want to say taking it

826
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 2: for taking it for granted a little bit, but some

827
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,560
Speaker 2: of the fans, not everybody, not everybody. You listeners, I

828
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: know you're not like this, right because I feel that

829
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 2: this year a little bit like, oh, we're in the

830
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: playoffs again. Well okay, what let me introduce you to

831
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 2: twenty twenty twenty twenty one twenty twenty two, three wins,

832
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 2: four wins. I mean, what are we doing here now?

833
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 2: Double digit wins in the playoffs. You want to be

834
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 2: the Colts, You want to be the Jets, you want

835
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 2: to be the Giants. I mean, I could name teams galore.

836
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 2: You're one of the teams in the dance, and you

837
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: could do something.

838
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 5: It's human nature, man, it's human nature.

839
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 7: And especially when you couple human nature with expectations, and

840
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,399
Speaker 7: the expectations of that twenty twelve team was so high

841
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 7: after what happened in twenty eleven, and it's the same

842
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 7: thing that this team is going through right now. It's

843
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,360
Speaker 7: like the expectations coming into the season was so high,

844
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,440
Speaker 7: and so you finish the season ten and seven. But

845
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 7: I'm sure a lot of people thought that this team

846
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,760
Speaker 7: was going to be, you know, thirteen and four, twelve

847
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 7: and five or something like that, and you're gonna come

848
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 7: into the playoffs with Stefan Diggs and Tank Kell and

849
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,920
Speaker 7: all these different guys that have since, you know, going

850
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 7: on with injury, and so people get anti people. People

851
00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 7: want to, you know, you when you don't necessarily live

852
00:36:53,239 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 7: up to those expectations that might be set forth in

853
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 7: the in the preseason.

854
00:36:57,880 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 5: That's where you.

855
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 7: Get the the the the complaints, and you get the anks.

856
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 7: But at the same time, like I said, the guys

857
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 7: are in the dance and so they have opportunity now

858
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 7: to go out there and win the ball game and

859
00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 7: keep going and send somebody home. And that's all you

860
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 7: can that's all you can ask for is for an opportunity,

861
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 7: and the Texas have that on Saturday.

862
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 1: What's funny when we talk about the expectations is because

863
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: of the success Demiko had early on, if you would

864
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: have told us when we were all celebrating the higher

865
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: of Demiico Ryans that in two years or three years

866
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: they're going to make the playoffs, we was all right, cool,

867
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 1: you know they're going to build to make the playoffs.

868
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 1: But because of what he did and what they did

869
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: the first year, now you go into the second year

870
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 1: instead of thinking, man, it'll be nice to make the playoffs,

871
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Speaker 1: it'll be nice to win the division. Like up with

872
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 1: what we did last year, we should be straight to

873
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So it's I don't want to say

874
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: that the success set unrealistic expectations, but the success doesn't

875
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Speaker 1: make the fan base as appreciative of the wins, because look,

876
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: if you would have told me anybody, not just Dimiko,

877
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,800
Speaker 1: when they made the higher, that after what they went through,

878
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,759
Speaker 1: you know, like Mark brought up twenty twenty, twenty twenty one,

879
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: if you would have said when they made the higher,

880
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 1: whoever it was, they're gonna win the division two years

881
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 1: in a row and make the playoffs two years in

882
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 1: the row. I'm saying, sign me up every day, you know,

883
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 1: and twice on Sunday. And you just mentioned not to

884
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: get joy in other people's misery, but look what's going

885
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,399
Speaker 1: on in New England. You know, there's some similarities.

886
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 2: Former player, plenty of joy, plenty.

887
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,440
Speaker 5: Of chill, feeling it. Yeah, and after one year.

888
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 2: I feel bad for may We'll talk about other teams

889
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 2: a little bit later. I feel bad for Jerrod Mayo

890
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 2: after one year.

891
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 4: My gosh.

892
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: You know, I've never believed in the whole one year deal,

893
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,839
Speaker 1: but anytime someone gets fired after one year, I have

894
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 1: to believe there's something going on that we don't know about.

895
00:38:41,160 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 5: It's not high.

896
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like there's some relationships, culture issues that you feel

897
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,759
Speaker 1: like you just can't bounce back from because that's just

898
00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: that that makes everybody look bad, not just the head.

899
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Speaker 5: Coach, but ownership, the GM everybody.

900
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Speaker 1: All right, Quick time out Texas Radio Players Edition aka

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Speaker 1: the Playoff Edition. Waite Smith sitting in as we're talking

902
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Speaker 1: a little Houston Texan football. Don't touch that down. Welcome in,

903
00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Welcome back, Texans Radio Players Edition, the Playoff Edition, brought

904
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:13,920
Speaker 1: to you by Houston Methodists. I am Indy Kalu. He

905
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 1: is Mark Vandermer Waits Smith, former pro bowler, in that

906
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: house today talking all things football, all things good with

907
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: the Texans, and speaking of good, a good record in

908
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: the NFL is fourteen and three, and you had to

909
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:27,040
Speaker 1: take on that Mark.

910
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 2: Well, the Vikings have to go on the road to

911
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 2: play the Rams. Yes, and they'll have a lot of

912
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 2: fans in LA because every time a team plays in

913
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: that stadium, especially the Chargers. My gosh, we can get

914
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: into them because I don't think they're gonna bring a

915
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,279
Speaker 2: ton of fans to this game. Now, they'll bring some

916
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 2: for sure. They're in the playoffs for the second time

917
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 2: since twenty two. Well, twenty twenty two, they were in.

918
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 2: They missed last year and obviously back in they had

919
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 2: that big lead at Jacksonville blew it two years ago

920
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: and now here they are. But the point is this,

921
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Speaker 2: the Vikings going on the road at fourteen and three,

922
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: would you guys be okay with and I think I

923
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: would be as well if they allowed, Okay, you're you

924
00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:08,919
Speaker 2: win your division. It doesn't necessarily mean you host. You're

925
00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 2: definitely in because remember we used to have like eighteen, yeah,

926
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Speaker 2: eight and eight teams win their division, they get to host,

927
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Speaker 2: you know, back in the day, And so you could

928
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Speaker 2: win a division at eight to nine or worse, possibly

929
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 2: if the whole division is in the subterranean level. But

930
00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 2: it's okay. I think if you just clinched the berth,

931
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Speaker 2: but they're gonna see the home field advantage according to record,

932
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Speaker 2: I would actually be okay with that in the league.

933
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: But I don't know how you guys feel.

934
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Speaker 7: I get where you're coming from. But the only problem

935
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 7: I have for that is like if you what if

936
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Speaker 7: you're a division champion of a team that of a

937
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 7: division champion of a division that is like a really

938
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Speaker 7: bad division. So you're fourteen and three, but everybody else

939
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Speaker 7: in your vision is like a really bad team.

940
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Speaker 5: Oh are we are we rewarding.

941
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,280
Speaker 2: Your fattened up on a bad division?

942
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 5: Right?

943
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 7: As opposed to say you play in the the AFC North,

944
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 7: and it conceivably the winning of the winner of that

945
00:41:07,360 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 7: division could have won ten games, and one of the

946
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Speaker 7: would have been ten and seven and won the game.

947
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Speaker 7: You're gonna make a ten and seven Baltimore Ravens go

948
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Speaker 7: on the road because you know, maybe there's two good

949
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Speaker 7: teams in a different division. Second point, so that I

950
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Speaker 7: think because of a scenario of that happening, I would

951
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 7: just I'm just good with keeping it the way it is.

952
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,319
Speaker 7: It sucks because there are gonna be instances where you

953
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 7: have a nine and eight team it's getting the home

954
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 7: game and then they're playing against a really good team.

955
00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 7: But I'll look at it like this, Man, if you're

956
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 7: a really good team, you have to go on the

957
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Speaker 7: road and win a game. Anyway, you didn't win your division,

958
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 7: So that means by you not win your division, you're

959
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 7: gonna have to go on the road to win a

960
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 7: game or two or three in order to be a

961
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 7: super Bowl champion. And at this point, when you're talking

962
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Speaker 7: about becoming a super Bowl champion, all the fair stuff

963
00:41:57,760 --> 00:41:59,800
Speaker 7: goes out the window. In my mind, it's like, listen,

964
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,560
Speaker 7: go out there and win a ball game, like this

965
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 7: is something that you have to go take. It's something

966
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 7: that you have to earn the regular season. You had

967
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 7: every opportunity to win your division. You didn't, So you

968
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Speaker 7: gotta go wherever you get sent.

969
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Speaker 1: You know, exact same answer I have, And just for

970
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 1: a simpler reason. I just think if you win the division,

971
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Speaker 1: something good should come with that. And I like that

972
00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: as home field advantage, and I one d percent get

973
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Speaker 1: what you're saying. You have a division where you have

974
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Speaker 1: three teams with double digit wins, like the AFC West.

975
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Speaker 1: You have the Chiefs who won fifteen, Chargers one eleven,

976
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 1: the Broncos won ten, Like that's a strong division. And

977
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Speaker 1: then you have other divisions where the division winner might

978
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Speaker 1: only have nine wins or ten wins. I'm okay with

979
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: that because I just feel like there's stages in this

980
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: and one of the goals is to win the division.

981
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: Was that what does that come with home field advantage?

982
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:53,400
Speaker 1: It's not like you get an automatic buy. It's not like,

983
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,919
Speaker 1: you know, we talked about the Minnesota Vikings. They're still

984
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: going to the playoffs. You know, if they're truly a

985
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,400
Speaker 1: fourteen and three two, if they are who their record

986
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Speaker 1: says they are, then they should go take care of

987
00:43:03,239 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: business in LA. So I get it, but no, I

988
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: like winning the division and that division winner having a

989
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: home team, excuse me, a home field game, and it

990
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 1: gives the fans something to really cheer for, you know,

991
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,399
Speaker 1: late in the season, right like, oh, not only can

992
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:21,439
Speaker 1: we win the division, but now we're able to buy

993
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: tickets for a home game.

994
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I doubt they change it anyway. So there's that.

995
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 2: Even though the Vikings went fourteen to three and you know,

996
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 2: they got to go on the road and play a

997
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: Rams team that they might be capable of beating anybody,

998
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: but it's the postseason. Like you said, anybody can beat anybody.

999
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:39,840
Speaker 2: You just got to get the job done. Speaking of divisions,

1000
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 2: what do you guys think of the cults not letting

1001
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: anybody go Shane steik It is back, Ballard is back.

1002
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 2: I don't know what they're going to do at quarterback

1003
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 2: richardson year three? Is this going to be the plan?

1004
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 2: Flacco still wants to play, but come on, he can't

1005
00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,320
Speaker 2: be the guy. They can't run it back with those guys,

1006
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 2: so they'll do something. But what do you make of

1007
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: them not making a change at GM or at coach.

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Speaker 5: I'm a fan of it.

1009
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Speaker 7: I'm a fan of it because you know, when there's

1010
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,719
Speaker 7: when the other organizations in your division are functioning in

1011
00:44:09,760 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 7: a dysfunctional manner, that helps you. That makes your road

1012
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 7: a little bit easier because of the teams that you're

1013
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:18,640
Speaker 7: gonna have to see. Most often, what I saw out

1014
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 7: of the Colts and Anthony Richardson as a quarterback over

1015
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 7: the past couple of years, it just seems like a

1016
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 7: guy that has a high ceiling and an extremely low

1017
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 7: floor and can't stay healthy. And so if you're if

1018
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 7: you're in a position where you have your your your

1019
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 7: franchise quarterback that has those attributes attributed to them, that's

1020
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,359
Speaker 7: a good thing for everybody else that you got to face,

1021
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 7: especially in Houston Texans.

1022
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Speaker 5: So I'm all for them. You know, stick standing pact.

1023
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 7: I keep doing what you're doing, because what you're doing

1024
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 7: is getting you eight to nine. It's getting you I

1025
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 7: don't forgot what they got last year, but eight, but wait, losing, losing,

1026
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:54,040
Speaker 7: losing the game at home that would have put you

1027
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Speaker 7: in the playoffs.

1028
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 5: I think they were nine and eight.

1029
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 2: So we're both nine and seven going in to that

1030
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: last game, and Texans got the ten.

1031
00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 7: And seven, okay, right, So I'm all for that. And

1032
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 7: it seems like it's what's going on around our division.

1033
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 7: There's a lot of dysfunction and other organizations and I'm

1034
00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 7: all for it.

1035
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:11,359
Speaker 5: All right.

1036
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: That's all the time we have for today. Later on

1037
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: in the week, we're gonna have some more with Wade Smith.

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Speaker 1: Make sure you're tune into Texans All Access. Have a

1039
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,120
Speaker 1: great night, and go Texans.