1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: It's the Bark Tank everybody a unfortunately not a victory 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Monday edition. We are presented by Sugardale, I mean Andrews Ciciliano. 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:11,760 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here back in the home office. Let's 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: get the good out of the way. First, happy related Thanksgiving. 5 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed the time with the family, I mean, 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 1: we all enjoy time with the family, right for at 7 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: least you know, a meal or two, right, a little 8 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:25,480 Speaker 1: bit of time with the family. Good time with the family. 9 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: And then we got to the football on Sunday and 10 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: the Browns lost. 11 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 2: We know that by now. 12 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: We thank you for tuning in, listening, watching, liking, subscribing, sharing, 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: giving a five star review of course, to all of it. 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Brown's lose to the forty nine Ers twenty six to eight, 15 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:43,920 Speaker 1: which is just an odd looking score after what was 16 00:00:43,960 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: an odd looking and feeling game, Browns now fall two, 17 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: three and nine. This ensures there will be no winning season. 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: Granted they would have had to have run the table. 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: But after the Raider game, and it is one game 20 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: at a time, obviously you felt good. You felt really 21 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: good about the Raider game. Yes, they beat up on 22 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: a bad team, but they did it in convincing fashion, 23 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,520 Speaker 1: and there was so much reason for optimism. The defense, 24 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: the ten sacks, Miles with the hat trick, obviously, and. 25 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: Then offensively Dyland Sampson, the home run. 26 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:20,000 Speaker 1: At Isaiah Bond, the deep shot finally unlocking the speed 27 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: in the offense, and obviously the quarterback shad Or Sanders 28 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:26,039 Speaker 1: wasn't perfect in Vegas, but you saw it right, You 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: saw it, and you saw the explosive nature of the 30 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: offense what it could be with should Or at the 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: helmet expected to see more of that, and you kind 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: of took a not a step backwards, but hey a 33 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: moment where looked you still got a rookie quarterback. And 34 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 1: the Niners are a very good team. They came in 35 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: as an eight win team, and yes they had a 36 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: short week and a long trip, and yes, Jim Schwartz 37 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: had done very well in the past against Kyle Shanahan 38 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 1: eight and one before that one. 39 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 2: And for the most part did a good job on Sunday. 40 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: But it's hard to operate when you're instantly given short fields. 41 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 2: It's just impossible. 42 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: The three San Francisco touchdown drives were sixteen yards, eighteen yards, 43 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: thirty two yards, and even though Miles Garrett and Devin 44 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: bush All say, Hey, it's our job. It is our job. 45 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 1: Sudden change keep them out of the end zone does 46 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,919 Speaker 1: not matter. Sure, but you can't keep giving the other 47 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,960 Speaker 1: team short fields because the other team is a good team. 48 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: That other team has George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and 49 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: Kyle used check, that other team has weapons, that other 50 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: team has eight wins for a reason. And against good teams, 51 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: you're never gonna win that way. Ever, against bad teams 52 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: you normally won't, but against good teams you absolutely will not. 53 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,680 Speaker 1: And there were special team's errors That goes without saying 54 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: whether it's a muff punt, whether it's a sixty six 55 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: yard return, or whether it's just honestly a brain freeze. 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: Malachi Corley fielding that ball and then falling. 57 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:01,960 Speaker 2: Out of bounds. 58 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 1: You can, and we've seen strategically other returners do this. 59 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: You can get to the sideline, put a foot on 60 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 1: the white step out of bounds, intentionally wait for that ball, 61 00:03:16,919 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 1: and then catch it with a foot out of bounds. 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: That is intentionally forcing a kick that might have landed 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: in bounds out of bounds by catching it with your 64 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: foot out. And if you had done that, he would 65 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 1: have been handled as a genius. But when you field 66 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: it in play and then you can't hold your balance 67 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: and then you go out of bounds, that's obviously not the. 68 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 2: Way to do it. 69 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: You could have been on the forty end up on 70 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:42,600 Speaker 1: the five, and then you have to punt three plays 71 00:03:42,640 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: later with Corey Bojorquez basically standing on the end line 72 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 1: in front of the dog pound, and that doesn't fly. 73 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 1: You'd hope for some momentum. It has still been two 74 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 1: years since the Browns won back to back games. I 75 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: know that sounds nuts, but the last time they went 76 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: back to back games was the four game heater with 77 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 1: Flacco at the end of the twenty three season when they 78 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: eventually won the division on that Thursday night. Now won 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: the division, made the playoffs on that Thursday night, and 80 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: then got in and then lost Week eighteen in Cincinnati 81 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: with Jeff driscoll a quarterback and resting most of the starters, 82 00:04:15,080 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: but it didn't happen. 83 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 2: Let's focus on the positives here. 84 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett got sacked nineteen absurd Miles Garrett also had 85 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:28,280 Speaker 1: two TFLs to run his NFL best lead to twenty 86 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: eight I talked about this with Kevin Stefanski on the 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: pregame show on Sunday. Miles, I think we all agree 88 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,680 Speaker 1: is going to break the NFL single season sack record 89 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: twenty two and a half. The single season TfL record 90 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: to me is more significant now that record is thirty nine, 91 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 1: which is just absurd. When Nathan mentioned thirty nine, I 92 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 1: did not know that, or I'd forgotten that, whatever, either 93 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,359 Speaker 1: the matter. When Nathan mentioned that to Bo on CVD 94 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: last week, I went, what, But it's true. In JJ 95 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: Watt's second season, he had thirty nine TFLs. Right now 96 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: Miles is at twenty eight. It is within reach. It 97 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 1: is difficult though, with five games to go, He's going 98 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 1: to have to get two plus per game, but he 99 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: could do it. Miles Garrett right now nineteen sacks in 100 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: twelve games, so he extends his franchise record, which had 101 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: been eighteen to nineteen, and he adds to his lead 102 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: of most sacks by a player under thirty. Miles doesn't 103 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 1: turn thirty until at the end of December, so he 104 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: is almost there. Let's tip the cap to Quinshawn Judkins 105 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: as well. He got in for the two point conversion. 106 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 2: He ran for. 107 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Ninety one yards and right now, quin Shawn And remember 108 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,360 Speaker 1: he didn't play Week one, obviously, I know you haven't 109 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:02,680 Speaker 1: forgotten that he is at seven hundred and fifty eight yards. 110 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: He is getting closer to Nick Chubb's rookie record. Chubb 111 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 1: had nine to ninety six. Trent Richardson had nine point fifty, 112 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: Jim Brown had nine forty two run William Run had 113 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: eight eighty seven. Quin Sewn right now needs to average 114 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,359 Speaker 1: forty eight yards per game in the final five to 115 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: get to one thousand. I believe he's gonna do it. 116 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 1: Carson Swessinger ten more tackles led the team. He also 117 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 1: had a TfL. Carson Squessinger now four double digit tackle games, 118 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: including three in a row. Harold Fannin caught the touchdown. 119 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: He has fifty one receptions. The rookie record for the 120 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: Browns for receptions is Kevin Johnson kJ number eighty five, 121 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: the second round pick back. Obviously, in the expansion the 122 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: REP in ninety nine, kJ had sixty six catches that year. 123 00:07:04,640 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: I'll say it right now, Harold fan And who needs 124 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: to average three in his final five, he is going 125 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: to get to Kevin Johnson at sixty six. Plenty of 126 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 1: good in that game. Should or moving up in the 127 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: pocket on that touchdown, definitely good. That was one of 128 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: those moments, a ninety yard drive in which you run, run, run, run, run. 129 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: You pound on the forty nine ers. That loosens things up, 130 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 1: and then what do you do? You throw the touchdown 131 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: and once again Harold Fann and broke a couple of tackles. 132 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: Everyone's focusing on the fourth down play call. Listen, I'm 133 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: fine with the play call. It didn't work. Probably could 134 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 1: have called time out, so be it. Move on going 135 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 1: for it and running what they ran. I don't mind it. 136 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Harrison Brian used to run that all the time, so 137 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 1: I have zero issue with that whatsoever. The injuries, however, 138 00:07:56,840 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: are a bit of a concern. Jack Conklin concussion protocol 139 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 1: Wyatt Teller will miss at least Week fourteen with a 140 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,720 Speaker 1: calf injury, so expect Tevin Jenkins to slide into the 141 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: right guard spot. They alternated on Sunday for Jack I'm 142 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: sorry for why to his career start number one hundred, 143 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: but then he and Tevin Jenkins alternated series interesting at 144 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: right guard. But the big injury is Malie Collins who 145 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:28,320 Speaker 1: has a quad injury need surgery and he has done 146 00:08:28,400 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: for the year. 147 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:30,120 Speaker 2: MALIEK. 148 00:08:30,160 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: Collins is one of the free agent signings of the 149 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: entire offseason for any team. 150 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: I know that sounds ridiculous, but it is true. 151 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:44,439 Speaker 1: Obviously, there are some quarterback moves. Sam Darnold in Minnesota, 152 00:08:44,520 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: that's a big move. I get it, I get it, 153 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: but I'm sorry. In Seattle, Malie Collins has six and 154 00:08:51,120 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: a half sacks, that is a career high. Who is 155 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: a two year, twenty million dollar deal, and he has 156 00:08:56,440 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: been invaluable along with Mason Graham and recently I call 157 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: that push in the middle of the line has been fantastic. 158 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 1: It's the reason you get ten sacks. 159 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 2: A week ago. 160 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,959 Speaker 1: It's, oh stop, the only reason Miles Garrett's having a 161 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,199 Speaker 1: great year. He's Miles Garrett. But you understand it. For years, 162 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 1: everyone always said, well, who's going to be the other 163 00:09:15,480 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: defensive end. Who's going to be the other guy because 164 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: that other guy should be eating up sacks if everyone's 165 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: double and triple teaming Miles. Okay, well, we know Alex 166 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: Troy can play, we know Isaiah Maguire can play. Right, 167 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: just got his contract well deserved but the middle of 168 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: that line this year, led by Malik Collins, has been 169 00:09:31,679 --> 00:09:34,320 Speaker 1: the difference maker six and a half sacks. 170 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 2: I saw him walking out of the stadium last night. 171 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,839 Speaker 1: Look he had a smile on his face, not because 172 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: he was happy, but you know, he realized he couldn't 173 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 1: do anything about it. 174 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 2: Man, You just you couldn't. 175 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: And all you can do is is pat him on 176 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: the shoulder and shake his hand and say I'm sorry, 177 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: and you'll be back and you'll be better than ever. 178 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: But like, thank you for being you, and thank you 179 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: for being that leader to the young guys. It's like 180 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: Mason Graham and my call and just meet an overall 181 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: leader in that room and in the locker room. Malik 182 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 1: Collins will be missed. Here's hoping he is healthy and 183 00:10:10,320 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: back with a vengeance next year. As for next week. 184 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 2: It's the Tennessee Titans. We could focus on them a 185 00:10:19,679 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: little bit later but now. And I've been wanting this 186 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 2: guy on this week. 187 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 1: It's special for multiple reasons. I think you know why. 188 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: I think you know why. Time for this week's guest 189 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 1: on the Bark Tank. I have been trying to get 190 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: this guy in the Bark Tank for a long long time. 191 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 2: But he's the busiest. 192 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: Guy in show business, whether it's in Cleveland or Columbus. 193 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 2: Got the Ultimate Cleveland Sports show. You Got t Bone 194 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: and Taybas. 195 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: He's on the road every week, although that's over for 196 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 1: now with Big ten Network in front of the program 197 00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Camerwin and always on the road every Saturday, and then 198 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: he's he is killing me and Girrod the uh Cleveland 199 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 1: Brown's Radio Network Factor Fiction Tyus Palell, how did you 200 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: have time to do this show today? 201 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 2: Man? 202 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: You caught me at a good time. You know, things 203 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: are things aren't actually starting to slow down. Usually on 204 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,199 Speaker 3: my Mondays. Actually at around this time is when I 205 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:22,959 Speaker 3: have to do my Big ten meeting. 206 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 4: But since that's done, I have time for you today. 207 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: So good job for Youah Brown's legend Tymas Powell has 208 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: time for us today. 209 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: A week ago times it was victory Monday and everyone 210 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,280 Speaker 2: feels good. It is amazing. I know. 211 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,079 Speaker 1: You know this the binary nature, not only Big ten 212 00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:48,160 Speaker 1: football but the NFL. Especially when you win, it feels 213 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 1: like you're going to the moon. 214 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 2: Man. Yeah, everything that week you gotta spring in your step. 215 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna win next week. Of course you're gonna win. 216 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 2: Next week, Right, you got that. 217 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 1: Good thing going, but when you lose, you crash back 218 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: down to earth. Can you describe the difference between last 219 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: Monday and this Monday. 220 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:10,199 Speaker 3: I just think that last Monday, you know, you went up, 221 00:12:11,120 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 3: you did a whole week of work in preparation, right, 222 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 3: And what you find out in the NFL is it 223 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 3: is so hard to win games, especially for young guys. 224 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:22,080 Speaker 4: And you think about this Browns roster. 225 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 3: There is a bunch of young guys that is playing 226 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 3: right now, and they're coming from college where they're used 227 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 3: to winning every week. And when you get to the 228 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 3: NFL and you see how hard it is and the 229 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 3: extra work and the sacrifice and the extra strength and 230 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 3: stuff that you have to do in efforts to win games. 231 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 3: When you finally do it, you think, oh my goodness, 232 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 3: we finally figured out the recipe. You finally think you 233 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 3: realize what it takes to win games, okay, And then 234 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,319 Speaker 3: you go out there and the next weekend you try 235 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 3: to repeat that same thing. You know, because all great 236 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,600 Speaker 3: players have a routine, So you think you finally figured 237 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 3: out the routine to be successful. But then you find 238 00:13:01,400 --> 00:13:04,120 Speaker 3: a way and then you lose a game, and it's 239 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: so mind blowing because it's like, man, these guys are 240 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 3: really good, like teams are really good, and game plans 241 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,559 Speaker 3: change from week to week. You know, opponents is better 242 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 3: the next week, and now you're scrambling and trying to 243 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 3: figure out what went wrong. And I think that for 244 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: them this week, that's what happened. They went up against 245 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: a better opponent and things that they got away with 246 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 3: in other games just don't work. You know, you might 247 00:13:28,360 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 3: be able to make a mistake against the Raiders, but 248 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 3: because they're not as good as the forty nine ers, 249 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 3: you can make that mistake and still win. You go 250 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 3: up against the forty nine ers and you see some 251 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 3: of those same mistakes and it hurts you in the 252 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 3: long run. 253 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 4: You can't get away with those things. 254 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 3: And I think that's where they crash back down to 255 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 3: reality this week. 256 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 257 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: I always love to actually overuse the phrase both can 258 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: be true, Like both can be true. The Browns played 259 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: well last week, especially defensively. I mean the ten sacks. 260 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: You can ever take that away. I mean that's going 261 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 1: to hang on the wall for a long long time. 262 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 1: That was a ridiculous performance. So that is definitely true. Also, 263 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:05,440 Speaker 1: the Raiders are just not good. They're not and like 264 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: the Chargers, for example, are feeling really good about themselves 265 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: today they beat the Raiders. And this is not to 266 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: make it personal here, but that that's a fact and 267 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: both can be true. I also think, and tybas I 268 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: was thinking about this yesterday leaving the stadium, is that 269 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 1: in no way do you overlook an eight win San 270 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,200 Speaker 1: Francisco team coming to town at all. 271 00:14:25,440 --> 00:14:26,280 Speaker 2: They're a good team. 272 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: But you watch them Monday night and you're like, all right, 273 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 1: rock Party threw three picks. We beat them here in 274 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: twenty three. Their entire defense is banged up. They've got 275 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: a Monday night, a short week, a red eye, this 276 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: is a long flight west coast to east coast. 277 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 2: Like, this sets up well. And we know what. 278 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 1: This defense has done against Kyle Shanahan in the past, 279 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: who's as good a play caller as there is in 280 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. Everybody agrees on that. But Atrium Schwartz is 281 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:54,480 Speaker 1: at his number beating the man out of night. All Right, 282 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: I can convince myself. I'm not talking to locker room. 283 00:14:58,280 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: I just mean me. 284 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,160 Speaker 1: Everyone else Browns fans waking up Sunday morning feeling optimistic, 285 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: like I can convince myself, this is where you finally 286 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,120 Speaker 1: get your back to back wins for the first time 287 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: in two years. 288 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that's a lot of that was 289 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: my mindset as well. You know, obviously I played for 290 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers and I was there with Kyle, 291 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:22,160 Speaker 3: Shannonhan and you know, Robert Sala was my defensive coordinator, 292 00:15:22,200 --> 00:15:25,360 Speaker 3: so I'm familiar with everything that goes on over in 293 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 3: that San fran building. 294 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 4: But I was with you. 295 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 3: I was like, you know what, Jim Schwartz is eight 296 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 3: and one against him, Okay, I like that. The defense 297 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 3: is coming off a ten sac performance. They're clicking on 298 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 3: all cylinders. And even when I watched this game when 299 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 3: they went up eight to seven to me, I was like, 300 00:15:43,000 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 3: this is Kevin trying to show you that he doesn't 301 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 3: fear the forty nine ers at all. That going for 302 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: two point conversion. People look at it like, oh, that's 303 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 3: just them just doing them. 304 00:15:50,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 4: No, that's Kyle. 305 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 3: I mean, that's Kevin saying, you know what, Kyle, I'm 306 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 3: not afraid of you. This team is not afraid of 307 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:57,320 Speaker 3: the forty nine ers. 308 00:15:57,400 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. 309 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: When they show through the flag, when they through the flag, 310 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: I turned to Nathan on the air and I went, 311 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 1: you want to go for two? 312 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, Yeah, you want you want to do this? 313 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 2: You want to go for two? 314 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, I see the offense 315 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: coming back out, like, okay, here we go. 316 00:16:13,560 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 3: It was an aggressive game plan the entire time, and 317 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 3: it was Kevin showing that he believed in his guys, 318 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 3: and I love that from them. Now, where it took 319 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 3: the turn is you can't give up the big long 320 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 3: punt return. Okay, that's one. You can't muff punch, that's two. 321 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 3: You can't catch the kickoff return on the five yard 322 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 3: line to run out of bounds. You can't fumble it 323 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 3: on fourth and one on a quarterback sneak. It's just 324 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 3: like it's little things like that. It's a whole unit 325 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: on special teams just kind of didn't show up for today, 326 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: for yesterday's game for whatever reason. I don't know what 327 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 3: that's about. It's something that obviously it cost us two 328 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: games before get into this one, making it three games. 329 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 3: It's an issue. We have to address that issue. And 330 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: then on the fourth and one, I didn't like that 331 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 3: one because I liked the call. I liked the fourth 332 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 3: and one. I had no problem with the quarterback sleek. 333 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 3: But if you go back and watch that play, it 334 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: took too long to get people on the feet, then, yeah, 335 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: then it took Then the ref held up for a second. 336 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 3: Then Haryl Fanner had to rush under the air. And 337 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: it's just in the concode and windy conditions, it was 338 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 3: too much. You call time out, you reset, get everybody going, 339 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:28,119 Speaker 3: make it clear, then you run that play. So I 340 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 3: think that with the process to call in to the 341 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: snap was too much and too overwhelming. 342 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 4: And that's what happened on that plane. 343 00:17:36,359 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: And you saw Wyatt standing there, white teller, you know, 344 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: two steps onto the field. 345 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: Like helmet on or helmet off, like am I in? 346 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 2: Am I out? 347 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there had been Jack's injury, and then you know 348 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: you have Leviston in at right tackle and there was 349 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: a substitution question here and then trouble getting lined up. 350 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: And I had no problem to play call either. And 351 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: I think, honestly, it's a red herring. There are a 352 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: lot of questions to Kevin after the game and even 353 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: on Monday as well, the play call in questions to 354 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: Harold like had you ever done that before? Had you 355 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 1: practice that before? Yes, they had practiced it, Okay, I 356 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: have no problem with the play call. The more you 357 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 1: can get the ball into Harold fan In's hands, I 358 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: am all for that. It's an issue if you should 359 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 1: probably call time out. And they're in the huddle and 360 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: Nathan and I are calling that, I'm like, hey, they're like, 361 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: they probably gotta have to call time out. They're in 362 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 1: the huddle still at like twelve, and why it's over 363 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:29,639 Speaker 1: there like holding this helmet and like all right, Nathan goes, 364 00:18:29,680 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna have to call time out. And then they 365 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 1: broke the huddle at like ten. I'm like, no, no, no, 366 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 1: I think they got it. I think they got it. 367 00:18:35,880 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: And they run to the line and then, as you said, 368 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:40,919 Speaker 1: the officials standing in there so the Niners can substitute, 369 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 1: and it's like nine eight seven, Like you're gonna call 370 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: time out, you're gonna call time out? No, they didn't. 371 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:51,000 Speaker 1: To me, the question is the timeout, not the play call. 372 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm with you. The play call was totally fine, no 373 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:55,719 Speaker 1: problem with it. 374 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,439 Speaker 3: And then for people that's saying like why have a 375 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,120 Speaker 3: tight end in that situation, the rapis do the same thing. 376 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 4: Mark Andrews does it all the time. I mean he 377 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 4: took it to. 378 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 2: The Hadison Bryant did it all the time. 379 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 3: He lo says, so like, it's not something that's completely formed. 380 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: The only reason that people have a problem with it 381 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,879 Speaker 3: is because it didn't work. That's where the pri if 382 00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 3: he would have got the first down, people would have 383 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 3: That's a great call, great player. Harro Fannon is one 384 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 3: of the best guys I've seen after contact. You know, 385 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 3: he keeps his feet moving in that situation. That's where 386 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 3: you want to have a ball. It just all about 387 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 3: the quarterback center exchange on that. When he gets a 388 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:31,440 Speaker 3: clean exchange, they probably get their first down. 389 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 4: Yeah. 390 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: And if you go back to twenty twenty three when 391 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: the Niners came in here and Niners undefeated five and 392 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: oh brock Purty had never lost a regular season game. 393 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: I believe they'd won fifteen consecutive regular season games all that. 394 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: If memory serves, Harrison Bryant in the red zone going 395 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: so to the west end zone, took a snap and 396 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 1: pitched it to Kareem and Kareem ran it in. 397 00:19:55,600 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 4: So. 398 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: I mean they've run it plenty of times with the 399 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,600 Speaker 1: tight end up or up under center. I've got no 400 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,159 Speaker 1: problem with that. Hey, special teams, let's talk about that. 401 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 1: Grant Delpa made a comment afterwards, and he has kind 402 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:09,480 Speaker 1: of said this in the past as well. Others have 403 00:20:09,560 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: intimated Giran is intimated down to the sideline. And obviously 404 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 1: we know how good of a Special Teams player. He 405 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: was talks about effort, and this is not me saying 406 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: guys aren't trying hard. But Special Teams, Tavis, you know, 407 00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: is a lot about attitude. 408 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 2: Yes, what do you see with these Special teams breakdown? 409 00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 4: So my issue with the Special Teams right now is when. 410 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 3: You look at it, every team has a good core 411 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 3: group of Special Teams guys. There's usually two or three 412 00:20:41,400 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 3: guys that you put on your roster that is strictly 413 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 3: there for special teams, right and everybody on that unit 414 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 3: knows that these are the guys and you need that 415 00:20:51,119 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 3: there because those guys hold everybody else accountable because Special 416 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,280 Speaker 3: Teams is their life. That's the way they're in the 417 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: league because they can make plays, right, And when I 418 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 3: look at this roster, I feel like we lack that 419 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,880 Speaker 3: in that area right now. And how I know that's 420 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 3: a thing is because when people look at Special Teams, 421 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: Special Teams is nothing but an all out effort for 422 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 3: one play. 423 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 4: That's all it is. 424 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 3: You go out there and you get one hundred maximum 425 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 3: effort for just one play, and if you do that 426 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 3: more times than not, you make a big time play. 427 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: I think right now we look at special teams as 428 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 3: just a play, and I don't like that approach to it. 429 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 3: And the reason I say that is because you're giving 430 00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: people aren't running down there with intent. 431 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 4: You know, you got to have structure on what you're doing. 432 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 3: Meaning when you're when you're on punt right and the 433 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 3: ball is punted out, it's a fan out from that line. 434 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: You got the gunners that's given one hundred percent effort 435 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: to go down there right now, the rest of them 436 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: fan out and you have to fan the field, meaning 437 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 3: everybody has a lane and you have to dominate that lane. 438 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 3: You don't let nobody push you out of that lane. 439 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 3: And when you get to the court, when you get 440 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: to the returner, you do what we call cupping the returner, 441 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 3: meaning by the time everybody get there, it should be 442 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: a wall like this, so the guy can't get around. 443 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 3: Nobody just has to go straight into it and everybody tackles. 444 00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:15,080 Speaker 3: So many times I'm seeing guys two lacks of days 445 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,360 Speaker 3: ago getting down the field, they're getting held up. 446 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 4: You know what, did you know that if you hold 447 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 4: up a guy. 448 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 3: On the line of scrimmage for every second that you 449 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: hold him up, that's equivalent to ten yards on the return. 450 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 3: So we have to do a better job of shocking, 451 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,520 Speaker 3: shedding and getting down the field, and then we have 452 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 3: to cut these athletes and make sure that we don't 453 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 3: create a scene for these guys to get through, because 454 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 3: I think that's the problem. 455 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:38,919 Speaker 4: These returners are starting. 456 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,920 Speaker 3: One way, setting up blocks and and putting a foot 457 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 3: in the ground and going straight vertical, and it's creating 458 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 3: these scenes. And if you're getting down the field and 459 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 3: defeating your block and stacking, that's the most important term 460 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 3: that anybody needs to learn. When you defeat your man 461 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 3: down the field, you have to stack a meaning you 462 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: get right in front of him so he can't do 463 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: anything to you but push you behind, push you in 464 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,320 Speaker 3: the back to give you a penalty. We have to 465 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 3: do a better job of stacking and cupping the athlete. 466 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 3: If we do that, we will never give up these returns. 467 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 3: And that comes from all our effort, and I just 468 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 3: feel like we're not We're not having that intent right now. 469 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 3: So what I think needs to happen is teams typically 470 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 3: take things seriously that a head coach is paying attention to. 471 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 2: Kevin. 472 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 4: I know he's giving up play call, and. 473 00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 3: I know he's still a part of the offense, but 474 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 3: he has to take some of those times to go 475 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,240 Speaker 3: down there and be with that special teams union. If 476 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 3: we're doing kickoff, you need to be running the kickoff drill, 477 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 3: you need to be running the punt drill because these 478 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,919 Speaker 3: players have to see like, oh, this is serious. The 479 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 3: head coach is dead serious about this. I had the 480 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:42,679 Speaker 3: luxury of doing this when I play in college. Actually, 481 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 3: Irvin Meyer ran the punt team, and I promise you 482 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 3: Andrew punt was taken more seriously than anything on offensive defense. 483 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 4: If you messed up punt, it was the end of 484 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 4: the world. 485 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 3: And everybody took it so seriously because Urban ran that 486 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 3: meeting and it was his unit. I think Kevin can 487 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 3: have that same effective he just just takes the time 488 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 3: to go down there, not necessarily replacing Bubbaventroll, because Bubba 489 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 3: Bentrol is the special teams coordinator, just being there helping, 490 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 3: you know, saying things in drills, saying what you see, 491 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 3: talking to players, pulling them to the side while we're 492 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:18,600 Speaker 3: in practice doing these drills. 493 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,520 Speaker 4: I think if you do that, that makes those players 494 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 4: take that just to tab it seriously. 495 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: All right, perfect transition. You got me there by mentioning 496 00:24:25,640 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 1: urban you were in ann Arbor on Saturday. 497 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,280 Speaker 2: You say, right, you didn't. 498 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So they're doing the pre game or you're you're 499 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: doing the Big ten Tail game show obviously on Big 500 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: ten Network. What what was your level of anxiety? Be honest, 501 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: now that it's over, now that they won, what was 502 00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,359 Speaker 1: your level anxiety in the first quarter after that pick? 503 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 3: So I was standing right there on the sideline he 504 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 3: threw the pick, and I was sitting there, and I 505 00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 3: was talking to Mike Thomas, and I look right at 506 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: Mike and I said, don't pan it, don't pan it, 507 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,440 Speaker 3: don't fret. I you know, this was the weirdest I've 508 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 3: ever been about this game. So all week I've been 509 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:07,440 Speaker 3: telling everybody I was extremely confident, Like I didn't have 510 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 3: not one ounce of doubt, right, and even last year 511 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,880 Speaker 3: I was very confident going into the game. But when 512 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 3: I woke up that morning, I can't lie. Last year 513 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: I had this this pit in my stomach where I 514 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 3: felt like nervous about the game, and I don't know why, 515 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 3: but I was kind of nervous about the game. But 516 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 3: I was like, you know, I ain't worried about that. 517 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 3: Obviously they lose that game this year. I promise you 518 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 3: this God is my witness. I had not one ounce 519 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 3: of doubt in the entire day, even after the pick. 520 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,679 Speaker 3: I was not worried about it at all because the 521 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 3: thing about the game, me being a former player and 522 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 3: playing in it, I know what it involves. 523 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: There's so much that goes into it. 524 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 3: And it's different for them because Ryan Day has moved 525 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,719 Speaker 3: a lot of the traditions off the week, Like they 526 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 3: don't have senior Tackle, they don't have the band, they 527 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 3: don't have Earl Bruce rest his soul. He doesn't come 528 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,920 Speaker 3: and talk to the team anymore. They don't have those 529 00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 3: things that go into that week to where we did. 530 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: So I had all these extra things and Thanksgiving was 531 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 3: in that week as well. They don't have none of that, 532 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 3: so their focus is only on the game. When I 533 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 3: was there, what I noticed is, again there's so much 534 00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:17,679 Speaker 3: outside attention when you get on the field. There's so 535 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 3: much chirping that's going on there's so much physicality where 536 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: they're doing cheap stuff after. 537 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 4: The play and just all of that. 538 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:28,679 Speaker 3: And what I learned is once you settle in, the 539 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,400 Speaker 3: team that settles into the game and just quiets the 540 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 3: noise will ultimately always be successful in that game. And 541 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 3: after they threw that pig, when they came to the slide, 542 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: I'm standing right there. 543 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 4: There wasn't everybody was calm. 544 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: It was like just this calm feeling on that team, 545 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,720 Speaker 3: and I was like, oh, yeah, I think they figured 546 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 3: it out. So obviously, you know, the next drive they 547 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 3: go down there, they punch it in, they score, which 548 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,320 Speaker 3: it was weird because they got down to the goal 549 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,399 Speaker 3: line and they had the goal line stand. You think, 550 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 3: you think Julie gets in on the sneak and then 551 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 3: you see his knees down, so it's like darn. Then 552 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 3: they come out there on the fourth down play they 553 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 3: run the play action beautiful. It was a beautiful play 554 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 3: action Jelanie Thurman's wide open touchdown penalty. So I'm just 555 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: sitting there like, Okay, this is crazy that this is 556 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 3: going on. They kicked the field go but to me, 557 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 3: I just love the confidence. And then obviously Jeremiah Smith 558 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: catches the touchdown, which was on a fourth down play 559 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:26,760 Speaker 3: which it took. 560 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: Some stones and he kind of caught a touch. 561 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:33,880 Speaker 4: Don't do this. I kind of went back and watched 562 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 4: his play like fifteen times. 563 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: I think, I don't think you could have overturned it. 564 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: I went exactly it was. 565 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 3: It was about he caught the ball security once he 566 00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 3: got there. It was a little bibble of it, but 567 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 3: I feel like he had already broke the plane before 568 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 3: the bobble sold. 569 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: Okay, what we get agree we can read there. 570 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: We can also agree that it was the first time 571 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: ever I've seen a player intentionally head butter referee and 572 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 1: not get effected. 573 00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. 574 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:00,760 Speaker 4: It was wild. 575 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 3: I was shocked that that didn't that he didn't get 576 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 3: thrown out of that game, because you know how these 577 00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: referees is, they look for moments, and I mean it 578 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,399 Speaker 3: literally hit his nose, so I'm like, I can't. 579 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 4: It was. 580 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,560 Speaker 3: It was a wild time. But again, there's just so 581 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 3: much that going to it. But I just I love 582 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 3: the fact that the game plan was what it was. 583 00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 3: In the past, it's always been about this toughness and physicality, 584 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 3: and I feel like Ryan daddn buy into that narrative. 585 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 3: You know, he was like, you know what, we passed 586 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:30,960 Speaker 3: the ball. Well, we got guys that they can't cover. 587 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: We're gonna utilize those guys and then in the second half, 588 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,160 Speaker 3: we're gonna then bring out the physicality. And that's exactly 589 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 3: what they did. And it was nothing that the wolf 590 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 3: Maines could do. 591 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 1: All right, last thing, and I promise, and I appreciate 592 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:43,239 Speaker 1: all your time here. 593 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 2: I've held you longer than I said. 594 00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: I would for for Buckeye fans, are for Browns fans 595 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: or for whomever. But let's hangle it to Browns fans here. 596 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 1: And I realized there's obviously plenty of crossover getting ready 597 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: for Indiana. Looking at Francisco Mendoza, which is a name 598 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking. 599 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:01,600 Speaker 4: About also, Fernando Fernandoos. Did I say Francisco? 600 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 2: Oh, I said Francisco. 601 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm sorry? All right, hey, game cutout. No, I'm kidding, 602 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 1: Frandom Indels, thank you. I'm kidding, because we're gonna be 603 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: talking about him all spring clearly. Yeah, what is the 604 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: what is the number one thing you like about him? 605 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: What is one thing you don't like about him? 606 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 3: I like the fact that he's very poison situations. You know, 607 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:27,040 Speaker 3: he he knows he does what it takes to win games. 608 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: You know, whatever that is. You know, I go back 609 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 3: to I go back to the Oregon game because the 610 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 3: organ game was the first game that I realized Indiana 611 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 3: is a for real team. 612 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,080 Speaker 4: If you go back to there. 613 00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 3: If you look at his stats, it's not eye popping, 614 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 3: it's not oh, he threw for three hundred and fifty 615 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: yards or something. 616 00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 4: Like this is none of that. 617 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 3: It's the fact that he realized that that situation on 618 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: critical downs. 619 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 4: I'm not known for being this mobile guy. 620 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 2: But he did it. 621 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:54,280 Speaker 3: Is not he did it in those big moments. He 622 00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 3: knew what it took to move the change. You go 623 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 3: back to the Penn State game where he was down. 624 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 3: He struggled lot that game, but in that one moment 625 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 3: where he had to have it, he figured out what 626 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 3: he needed to do. I think he went with three 627 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 3: for three or four for four through a game, win 628 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 3: a touchdown. I love the fact that you can't count 629 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 3: that kid out. That kid does find a way. He 630 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: has a winner's mentality. He wants to win. He's very 631 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 3: if you get to know him and get to talk 632 00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,880 Speaker 3: to him on the side, he's kind of odd, meaning 633 00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 3: he's so locked into the game of football that he 634 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,520 Speaker 3: comes off it's weird sometimes, and I think I like 635 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 3: that for him for somebody reason. The thing that I 636 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 3: don't like about him is that he doesn't always play 637 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 3: big for an entire game, you know, like for the 638 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 3: Penn State game, it took them to go down for 639 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 3: him to play big. 640 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 4: I didn't like that. I wanted him to be dominant 641 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 4: for four quarters. 642 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: I think that to me, I want him to be 643 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 3: more consistent in big games. 644 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 4: That's what I would. 645 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 2: Say, And I thought you were going to say. 646 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: He is so immobile that at times he looks like 647 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: Bernie Kosar. 648 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 3: You're gonna be a mobile you better make sure you 649 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 3: getting that ball out your hand. 650 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 4: And he does a great job of doing that too. 651 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 2: He does. 652 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 1: I want to command you for in the Guardian's hat 653 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,200 Speaker 1: and the Calves sweatshirt. I generally have a rule that 654 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear two different teams in the same 655 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: get up. 656 00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 2: But you'll pull that off well. Well. One. 657 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 4: I will always wear a Guardian's hat no matter what. 658 00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 4: That's just who I am. 659 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 3: I don't wear like Brown's hats or Ohio State hats. 660 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,520 Speaker 3: It has to be a guardian's hat. And then the 661 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,320 Speaker 3: Cavs is just because I'm upset that they lost yesterday, 662 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 3: but like I got faith in them this year. 663 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: So totally, I have probably down in my closet down 664 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: the hall, I probably have fifteen to twenty different tribe 665 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 1: and or guardians hats, at least, like minor league, minor 666 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: league Calves, I like when I was doing minor league 667 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:57,200 Speaker 1: baseball when I was like twenty years old, like the 668 00:31:57,280 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Watertown Indians. 669 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 2: I like all these random them really. 670 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I left my favorite Brown's hat on a 671 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: plane a couple of weeks ago. Not that I don't like, 672 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 1: you know, just like this one. This is kind of 673 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,719 Speaker 1: one that Kevin wears, but he usually got the trucker one. 674 00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 2: I got the fitted one. 675 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 3: You better than me, Am, I leave my favorite hat. 676 00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 3: I'm I'm going back on their plane to go get that. 677 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,160 Speaker 2: I came. I didn't realize. I didn't realize until I 678 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,080 Speaker 2: was like two thirds of the way home. And then 679 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 2: you go like, oh man, so I gotta I gotta 680 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: get a new one. Not again, now. 681 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: There's anything wrong with this one, which is available at 682 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns dot com at NFL Shop dot com go 683 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: get yours today, Tyvis. We appreciate you. Thanks for making 684 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,200 Speaker 1: the time. Man, truly, are you gonna go to Indie 685 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: or not? I know you're not working nobody. 686 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 2: Are you gonna go? 687 00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 4: No? 688 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,959 Speaker 1: No, okay, enjoy the time on the couch with the 689 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: family and I will see you next week. 690 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 2: I appreciate you. 691 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 4: All right. 692 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 2: Time for what cizling for? 693 00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 1: Out of my sugardale as we go round the AFC 694 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,840 Speaker 1: and north, what's sizzling in Pittsburgh is nothing. What if 695 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 1: I told you they booed Renegade on Sunday? Really they did. 696 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,240 Speaker 1: They booed renegade because it's not a good song. No, 697 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 1: because the Steelers were losing and giving up well over 698 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: two hundred yards on the ground to James Cook and 699 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: the Bills, and they were beaten badly and there was 700 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: a fire Tomlin chant after the game. Aaron Rodgers was 701 00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: sacked by Joey Bosa, aggravated that left wrist injury and 702 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: also had a bloodied and maybe even broken nose. The 703 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: Steelers are not out of it in. 704 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 2: Any shape or form. 705 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: They are now six and six and they go on 706 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 1: the road to face the Ravens, who are six and 707 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: six with an extra time to prepare because they played 708 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: Thursday night. 709 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 2: They lost to the Bengals. 710 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,360 Speaker 1: So it is a battle for first in the AFC 711 00:33:54,520 --> 00:34:00,959 Speaker 1: North between two six win teams in week fourteen, because 712 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:05,320 Speaker 1: we all saw that coming. Meantime, the Bengals somehow are 713 00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,960 Speaker 1: not out of it now. Granted they're not really in it, 714 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: but they're not out of it because you have to 715 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: assume that somebody will win in Baltimore on Sunday, and 716 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,880 Speaker 1: that somebody will then have seven wins. The Bengals go 717 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,800 Speaker 1: to Buffalo to fa say, I mean, who are they Bills? 718 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: But they are eight and four and they've beaten the 719 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: Steelers and the Chiefs, and they've lost games that they 720 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 1: should have won. 721 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 2: But all that said, if. 722 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: The Bengals were to find a way to win, they'd 723 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:36,040 Speaker 1: be five and eight, and then the Bengals would be 724 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: two games back again, of whomever wins between Baltimore or Pittsburgh. Obviously, 725 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow came back on Thanksgiving Night led the Bengals 726 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:50,320 Speaker 1: to victory, and Lamar Jackson and the Ravens kept turning 727 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,280 Speaker 1: the ball over and now they're kind of in crisis 728 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: mode here. Browns, as I mentioned they faced the Titans. 729 00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: We are back at home. 730 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 2: At Huntington Bankfield for a one pm kick fully. 731 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,480 Speaker 1: With a little better weather than last week, next Sunday, 732 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: one pm Eastern Time. I say Eastern because not all 733 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: of you are listening to this show in northeast Ohio. 734 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,600 Speaker 1: We're looking forward to seeing everyone back at hunting To Bankfield, 735 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: looking forward to seeing shud Or Sanderson cam Ward battle. 736 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean for all those pre draft videos, the two 737 00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 1: of them working out together, getting a good friendship going right. 738 00:35:25,640 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: Great to see them get back together, and that'll be 739 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: a cool game obviously with implications for quarterback development looking 740 00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 1: ahead to next April as well. Implications is you know, 741 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,800 Speaker 1: get what I'm saying, So that one should be fun 742 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:42,319 Speaker 1: and the Browns are positioned to get a win there. 743 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: They were in position to get a win this week. 744 00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: Obviously it did not happen regardless. Thank you for listening 745 00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 1: and watching The Bark Tank here presented by Sugardale. Thanks 746 00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,799 Speaker 1: to Tamas Powell for joining us tibus back on our 747 00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:58,160 Speaker 1: pregame show Sunday as well as we play the Factor 748 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 1: fiction game along with the Andy Baskin and Gerrod. I 749 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:07,320 Speaker 1: still do not know what Baskin is doing. He makes 750 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: the whole thing up like I just don't know it's all. 751 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 2: He just makes it up. 752 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:17,560 Speaker 1: Imagine imagine playing a game in which you don't know 753 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: what the rules are. The guy asking the questions is 754 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: making it up. Like imagine going on Jeopardy when or 755 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:29,080 Speaker 1: any of the quiz shows, and the person answering or 756 00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:33,239 Speaker 1: asking the questions will determine if you have the right 757 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 1: answer and then just make up the scoring however he 758 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,080 Speaker 1: feels fits. Would that show work on TV. 759 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,799 Speaker 2: Anyway? I didn't think so. 760 00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,880 Speaker 1: My name is Andrew Sicilianos the Bark Tank Friends. 761 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 2: So long. See you next week.