1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Welcome in. We'll drive in the great episode four twenty one. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 1: As always, this episode is brought to you by our 3 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: great friends at boost Mobile. Demanse. Good morning, great to 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 1: see you, to see a ton to do. We are 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: ten days away from Super Bowl sixty it is. We 6 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: are going to slowly but surely ramp up our coverage 7 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,680 Speaker 1: of the game over the coming ten days. Tomorrow, by 8 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: the way, in our regular gam weekly gambling show, obviously 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: no NFL games this weekend for Demanse to give you 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: winners on and me to give you losers on. However, 11 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 1: we will use tomorrow's show as a way to look 12 00:00:50,200 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: back because all of our preseason future bets have now settled, 13 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: so we will find out how we did in you 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: know show from way back at the end of August 15 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: beginning of September. Spoiler alert on it, as was the 16 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 1: theme of the twenty twenty five football season, Demonse did 17 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: much better than I did better on Well yeah, I mean, 18 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: we'll get into that tomorrow, but so that will be 19 00:01:20,000 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 1: tomorrow's gambling show. Today. However, we're not going to be 20 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,040 Speaker 1: able to do a ton on the super Bowl because 21 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: there is a bunch of other news involving the Hall 22 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: of Fame, coaching carousel, Giannis's future. So we will get 23 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: to all of that momentarily. Before we do, we bring 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: you straight to voicemail. What we're not going to be 25 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: able to get into heavily brought to you by our 26 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 1: friends at Boost Mobile, Wimby Outduels KD is the Spurs 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: beat the Rockets one to eleven ninety nine. Nick's Pro 28 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 1: Bowl predictions not in the show because Nick does not 29 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 1: have Pro Bowl predictions. And oh that's a picture of 30 00:01:56,880 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 1: Dexter with a fake tear if you're watching on YouTube. 31 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: He once again snubbed, even though he is AKC certified 32 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: purebread you know, show dog quality, our Portuguese water dog, Dexter. 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: He was once again not invited to the Westminster Kennel 34 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Club Dog Show. I, however, might spend a good portion 35 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: of my weekend at Madison Square Garden because there's a 36 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: great boxing match there Saturday night Tiafima Lopez and Shaker 37 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 1: Stevenson fighting Saturday night that I think I'm going to 38 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:38,839 Speaker 1: go to. And then the Westminster Kinnel Club Dog Show, 39 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: which I love every single year and is on Fox 40 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,920 Speaker 1: by the way, will be at msg as well. So 41 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: that's my weekend. Now let's get to the show. Remindered 42 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: everybody YouTube numbers perking up, which we do greatly appreciate. 43 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:57,200 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the show on YouTube, and it really does 44 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: help us if you subscribe to the show on iTunes 45 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: or Spotify or I'm sure there's a third a podcast 46 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: streaming appen that I'm just not familiar with wherever you 47 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 1: want to listen to it the audio only version that 48 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: helps us out, all right, Demanse, Let's talk Hall of Fame. 49 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 2: All right, So the reports came out that Bill Belichick 50 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 2: was snubbed from the Hall of Fame, and from the 51 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: outside looking in, like a newer fan like myself, Belichick 52 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 2: isn't getting in. It's a little weird, all of his accomplishments. 53 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: What do you make of this situation? 54 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: So, you know, it's really interesting. I didn't know you 55 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: were going to say that in the offset about a 56 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: newer fan, but it is a intriguing angle to it 57 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: because there are people and you're twenty seven years old, 58 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 1: your age, there are players in the league your age 59 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: and younger that probably have no recollection at all of Spygate, 60 00:03:59,560 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 1: and I do not want and I am not going 61 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,120 Speaker 1: to re litigate the ins and outs of Spygate. I 62 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: don't think that is a good use of our time. 63 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: But the reason I bring it up is that is 64 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: the simplest explanation as to why Bill Belichick was not 65 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: a first ballot Hall of Famer. And I understand y 66 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: a Gregorian, the columnist for the Kansaity Star, who has 67 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame vote, he wrote a column explaining 68 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,679 Speaker 1: he was one of the people that did not vote 69 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: for Belichick, and it had nothing to do with Spygate, 70 00:04:44,480 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: with the cheating scandals that it was simply here is 71 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: the way the Hall of Fame works. Just so everybody understands. 72 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: The regular Hall of Famers, the ones that Drew Brees 73 00:04:56,720 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: is up for induction Larry Fitzgerald that players that retired recently, 74 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 1: they have this giant list of eligible people to consider. 75 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,080 Speaker 1: They whittle it down to twenty five semifinalists. They then 76 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 1: whittle that down to usually I think ten to fifteen finalists, 77 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 1: and then at most five people from that group make it. 78 00:05:21,240 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: There is then a separate procedure, but with the same 79 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: voters that consider five other finalists. Those five other finalists 80 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: come from three buckets. They will consider one contributor finalist 81 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:48,160 Speaker 1: this year that was Robert Kraft, one coaching finalist this 82 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: year that was Bill Belichick, and three Senior Committee player finalists, 83 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,679 Speaker 1: meaning guys who did not make the Hall of Fame 84 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 1: through the initial proceeding but now are eligible again through 85 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: the Senior Committee. And those three finalists were Elsie Greenwood, 86 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: Roger Craig, and Gotstarnitt put it in the dock. I 87 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: forget who the third other Senior Committee finalist was. And 88 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:24,040 Speaker 1: the way it works is for those five finalists, each 89 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: voter can vote for a maximum of three people. Now 90 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: you can split that however you want. You can vote 91 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 1: yes for the one contributor, one coach, and one of 92 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: the players one of the three players, or you could 93 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: go two players and one coach or two players. Ken 94 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: Anderson is the other player finalist that I forgot, or 95 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: you could go all three players by Gregorian explained he 96 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: didn't vote for Belichick, and it was because he thought 97 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: those three players were Hall of Fame worthy that if 98 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: they didn't get in now, they were likely never going 99 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: to get in, he thought, because they're not guaranteed to 100 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: be the three finalists next year, and so he voted, 101 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: he uses three votes for them. I think there is 102 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:27,120 Speaker 1: also the possibility that this was unintentional in this regard 103 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: that people in that room demons were like, you know what, 104 00:07:33,120 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure Belichick's getting in, so I don't want to 105 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 1: use He doesn't need my vote, so I'd rather use 106 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: my vote because I'm a big Roger Craig guy and 107 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: I think he's not going to get in. That could happen. 108 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: There's a lot of different ways that someone who is 109 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: a deserving candidate can lose a voter or too. But 110 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: in order for Bill Belichick not to be elected, he 111 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: would have had to lose it at least eleven votes. 112 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 1: You need forty of the fifty. And while everyone from 113 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: Tom Brady to Jimmy Johnson to Patrick Mahomes, Lebron James 114 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: de Troy Aikman, everyone was unanimous in how outrageous belichick 115 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:33,080 Speaker 1: snubbing was. I saw the news and I said, well, 116 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: I suppose I understand. And the reason I understood was 117 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: because I read it as he lost some amount of 118 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: votes because Hall of Fame voters felt like this was 119 00:08:53,559 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: their opportunity and maybe for some people, their responsibility to 120 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:05,239 Speaker 1: punish him. For at least one of, if not multiple 121 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 1: cheating scandals in which he was not only embroiled, but 122 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 1: in Spygate, adjudicated by the NFL to have orchestrated, benefited from, 123 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: and he was penalized for greatly. They find him the 124 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:29,199 Speaker 1: most the league can fine coach half a million dollars, 125 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,600 Speaker 1: and they took a first round pick from the team. 126 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: Those were massive, massive penalties. And this, my opinion on 127 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:46,439 Speaker 1: this might sound counterintuitive or incongruous. I hope it doesn't. 128 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:52,040 Speaker 1: If I were a voter, I would have voted for Belichick. 129 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: Spygate was not to me such a mortal sin that 130 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: and it overshadows what is an unimpeachable resume of coaching excellence. 131 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: But I can feel that way while also understanding that 132 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: others may not. I also can feel that way, and 133 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: I do not think it is contradictory for many of 134 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: the people. If I would not find a contradictory if 135 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: the fifty Hall of Fame voters from this year were 136 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 1: the exact same fifty next year and next year, Belichick 137 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 1: got in unanimously Because I do think one could argue 138 00:10:50,240 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 1: that if you were a Hall of Fame voter, you 139 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: might feel like, yes, Bill Belichick deserves to be in 140 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, but we would like to deny 141 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: him the minted distinction of first ballot Hall of Famer. 142 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 1: That that is the penance for Spygan, and I don't 143 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:25,960 Speaker 1: find that outrageous. Now there is demand's a real knock 144 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 1: on effect of Belichick not getting in this year, because 145 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: if people understood and were paying attention to the way 146 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: I explained the way the current voting process works. Each year, 147 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:50,280 Speaker 1: there is only one coaching candidate that becomes eligible that 148 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 1: will not is eligible, but that gets voted on. So 149 00:11:54,559 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: if you are Kyle or Mike Shanahan or Tom Coughlin 150 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: and you have hopes of being a Hall of Famer, 151 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: or I guess in theory Mike Tomlin could be eligible 152 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: next year, but I would imagine they would make him 153 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:15,320 Speaker 1: wait because they think he might be coming back to coach. 154 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: If you are one of those coaches and you assumed 155 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: Belichick gets in this year, and then next year, you know, 156 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:29,959 Speaker 1: maybe I'm the coach who's nominated and I could get in, Well, 157 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: now that ain't gonna happen because this year the coaching 158 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: candidate Bill Belichick didn't get in and next year the 159 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 1: coaching Belichick will hold that spot I would think as 160 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 1: the coach that comes up for vote every year until 161 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:46,880 Speaker 1: he gets in. So there is a real knock on 162 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:51,440 Speaker 1: effect to it, the other knock on effect. That is 163 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: what I was getting at when you first mentioned this 164 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:58,559 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the show. I do think there 165 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 1: is a generation of people, including active players in the league, 166 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 1: that didn't know two things about Spygate and are now 167 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: learning about it. Yeah, that's like, wait, so what happened? 168 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:18,680 Speaker 1: And fair or not? That will put a slightly different 169 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: light on that first half decade plus of Patriots dominance. 170 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think that's unfair. It happened, that was 171 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,560 Speaker 1: and I understand Jimmy Johnson saying we all tried to 172 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: do it and that again, I'm not trying to rejudicate Spygate, 173 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: but the NFL found out the Pats were doing it, 174 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,600 Speaker 1: told them to stop, and they did not stop. And 175 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: then even in the twenty like twenty seventeen, there was 176 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: a real sketchy where you guys pretending to film a 177 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:07,920 Speaker 1: team documentary and actually filming the Bengals sideline during a 178 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: Bengals Bears game before they played. You guys. That happened 179 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: and the League had to step in. The Patriots played 180 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: with fire, whether it be to Flategate which fell at 181 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:28,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady's feet, Spygate which fell at Belichick's seat, or 182 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: any of the other things that were more allegations than 183 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: proven throughout their run. And it is not nearly enough 184 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: for me to be like, vacate the trophy titles is 185 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: strip them of the banners. I'm not saying that, not 186 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: even close to saying that. But I understand if a 187 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame voter said this is your penalty, and 188 00:14:56,200 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 1: I don't think it is double jeopardy, nor do I 189 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 1: think it is outrageous if the voters at the Hall 190 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: of Fame said, listen, yes, we understand that this was 191 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: adjudicated almost twenty years ago, but we haven't ruled on it. 192 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: We have not had our say on it, and we 193 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: are therefore and again, this is the assuming that this 194 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: was the reason he missed out on at you know, 195 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 1: enough votes to not get to forty. Some folks said, no, 196 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: that the cheating bothers us, because I don't think there's 197 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,120 Speaker 1: any other realistic explanation as to why he would miss 198 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:52,240 Speaker 1: out on at least eleven of the fifty votes, and. 199 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 2: I don't thought that Goheather guy should get in, you know, 200 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: thinking that Belichick was going to be there next year 201 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 2: and get this guy in. Now. It's also I think, 202 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: you know, making it a personal thing like that, I 203 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 2: just think is a little is the guy first ballot 204 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: or not? Like in that guy's case that he's saying that, oh, 205 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 2: I wanted this other guy to get in. But in 206 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: that I just think that if the guy's first. 207 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't like I don't like that explanation. I 208 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: don't like the explanation of I'd rather make this guy 209 00:16:21,640 --> 00:16:25,080 Speaker 1: wait because this guy might not get another opportunity. Yeah. 210 00:16:25,120 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I again, everyone's entitled to their own process 211 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: on it. I don't like that explanation. I it's bad 212 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 1: luck for one of those guys. But with respect to 213 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: Elsie Greenwood, Roger Craig and Ken Anderson, if we are 214 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 1: simply saying those two guys plus Craft and Belichick, you 215 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: can only vote for three of them, and the cheating 216 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: is not factoring in, right, then Belichick must get one 217 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: of your three votes. He must, and then you have 218 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: to go make a tough decision on the other two. Now, 219 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: demon's that, you know, I promoted the idea of this 220 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: year putting Craft in and I think he might get in, 221 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 1: and then next year when Gronk comes eligible, either having 222 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Gronk and Belichick wait an additional year to win, Brady's eligible, 223 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: or the Hall of Fame, which is going to have 224 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,359 Speaker 1: to do a lot of it would appear because my 225 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:33,639 Speaker 1: opinion is in the minority, you know, kind of pr 226 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: fixing over the next few weeks and months. I they 227 00:17:40,119 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: could also simply say, hey, we're adjusting a rule. By 228 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: the way, if you win more than five Super Bowls, 229 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:52,400 Speaker 1: we are shortening your mandatory weight for Hall of Fame 230 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: eligibility from five years to four years. So Tom Brady's 231 00:17:55,960 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 1: eligible next year, and putting Gronk, Braid, and Belichick all 232 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: in together. My initial idea was and have the other 233 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: three player spots go to guys who have been multi 234 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: time finalists or semi finalists Adam Vini, Terry Rodney, Harrison, 235 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Vince will Fork and have an all Patriots class. But 236 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: at the very least, having Gronk, Brady, and Belichick all 237 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: go in next year would be sick. And I'm all 238 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 1: for one off rule changes that impact one person as 239 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: a testament to their greatness. Like if they said, hey, 240 00:18:35,320 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 1: new rule, any player with five or more Super Bowl rings, 241 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 1: you don't have to wait the full five years. That's 242 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: not it's not gonna be like, oh my god, so 243 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,679 Speaker 1: many guys is gonna apply to Nope, Brady, and it was. 244 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: It's similar. It's it's of the same thought process that 245 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: if Adam Silver came out and be like, by the way, 246 00:18:57,160 --> 00:19:01,119 Speaker 1: we changed a rule over the summer that in any 247 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: circumstance where the NBA's all time leading scorer is an 248 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: active player, he is an All Star that year. Just 249 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: and by the way, that would only apply to Lebron 250 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: right now and next year. Like the I think these 251 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 1: one off rule changes can. 252 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: Be, can be, and you don't have to And if 253 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:30,679 Speaker 3: some if that rule ever applies to anyone else, it 254 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 3: will be because of their you know, unfathomable greatness, and 255 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 3: so we'd be fine with it. 256 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: And so that's my that's where I fall in this. 257 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: Now I will say this, there are two unintended consequences 258 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: of this Belichick snubbing. One I find to be positive, 259 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: one I find to be negative. The positive one is 260 00:19:56,200 --> 00:20:02,159 Speaker 1: this I think this is Bill Pollion's emperor has no 261 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: clothes moment, and I don't mind that. I've never been 262 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: a Pollion guy. At Bill Pollian hit the jackpot in 263 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: his team had the number one pick when Peyton Manning 264 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,480 Speaker 1: was coming out, and then, in my opinion, did a 265 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: very poor job building teams around Peyton. To the tune 266 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: of Poleon's whole philosophy was We're gonna build the best 267 00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 1: team imaginable to play with the lead and to play indoors, 268 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 1: which was awesome most of the time, but you were 269 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:40,040 Speaker 1: not always indoors in the playoffs, and you did not 270 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: always have the lead, and that, along with Peyton's own shortcomings, 271 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: is why they didn't win as much. Bill Pollion also 272 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 1: is eight patient zero of what I consider to be 273 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:56,200 Speaker 1: a near decade long outrageous Lamar Jackson discourse, because he's 274 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: the guy who said Lamar should play wide receiver instead 275 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: of quarterback, which then had a rubber band snapping impact 276 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: on how Lamar is discussed positively and negatively today, and 277 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: Pollion has made a total fool of himself in this process. 278 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: He told Sports Illustrated, I'm one hundred percent sure he's 279 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 1: sold Sports Illustrated. I voted for Belichick. He then half 280 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: hour later told ESPN, I can't quite remember. I'm ninety 281 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,840 Speaker 1: five percent sure, and then the next day read a 282 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: prepared statement on Sirius being like, I voted for Belichick. 283 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,639 Speaker 1: So Poleion being made a bit of a fool of 284 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: is just a happy accident of this. Maybe the other 285 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,960 Speaker 1: unintended consequence de Monsey that I think is a bummer 286 00:21:45,240 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: is for the guys who do get in this year. 287 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 1: So Drew Brees is going to get in, Larry Fitzgerald 288 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: is going to get in, and whomever else does, Robert 289 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 1: Kraft is probably going to get in. The story of 290 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six Pro Football Hall of Fame induction 291 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: will not really be about who is getting in, and 292 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 1: it will be about who is not there. And that's 293 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: a bummer for them, and that's you know, that's the it. 294 00:22:21,040 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: Just all talking about this one correct. 295 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: And so it it does, and especially for those senior 296 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: committee guys like the While it won't be accurate that 297 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,439 Speaker 1: all of them took Belichick's spot, it will be at 298 00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:45,679 Speaker 1: least somewhat accurate that one of them did and so 299 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 1: and we won't know who, so, whether it's Kraft, Ken Anderson, 300 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:56,640 Speaker 1: Roger Craiger, ELSEI Greenwood, It'll just not feel quite right. 301 00:22:56,680 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 1: And so that's that's a shame of it. Again. 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Uh pers Cham's there's been aggressive offers from 344 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 2: the Warriors, Nicks, Heat, and the Timberwolves. What do we 345 00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:40,040 Speaker 2: making on? 346 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: Yes? Well, so I don't let me just start with 347 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: the Knicks. I don't see how the Knicks can make 348 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,119 Speaker 1: and offer Milwaukee would be interested in because they have 349 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 1: no picks to trade. They can give them swaps like 350 00:25:56,760 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: I the So that's the one that I don't I 351 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:05,360 Speaker 1: understand why demonse. The Knicks would want to do it, obviously, 352 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,879 Speaker 1: but I don't know why Milwaukee would be interested. 353 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,199 Speaker 2: But but the Warriors though, the war the war I mean, 354 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 2: I heard James Butler, I get there. 355 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 1: Well, so that would be the yeah. So here's the 356 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: thing on the Warriors. The Warriors at least can trade picks, 357 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: and Milwaukee might want to uh, you know, full on rebuild. 358 00:26:33,080 --> 00:26:39,120 Speaker 1: So that to me though, also like Butler and Kaminga 359 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: plus let me see the picks that the Warriors have available, 360 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: so I. 361 00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 2: Think it is first I guess, but yeah. 362 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: So the Warriors can trade four firsts. They can trade 363 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: their first in twenty six, twenty eight, thirty and thirty two, 364 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,679 Speaker 1: and they can trade swaps, so they could do you know, 365 00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 1: a massive, massive draft pick deal, and the Warriors could, 366 00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 1: they would include Jimmy Butler because it's the only way 367 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,919 Speaker 1: to make the salaries work. So I think it's basically 368 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: the framework of it would be Butler and Kaminga for 369 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: Yannis and I think Kuzma, and that's how the salaries 370 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 1: line up. And then you trade a bajillion picks and 371 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: I don't I don't think that is a great deal personally. 372 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:45,840 Speaker 1: And Milwaukee is in this weird spot remember where them 373 00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: bottoming out does not benefit them because they don't have 374 00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: their own picks. They have traded or swapped their next 375 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,080 Speaker 1: four years of picks in Milwaukee, so them being awful 376 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: doesn't allow them to replenish it, which is why I 377 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: have been promoting the Hawks trade, which the Hawks have 378 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: this benefit of they have the first round pick next 379 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: year or this coming year that is the better of 380 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,600 Speaker 1: New Orleans and Milwaukee, which will be New Orleans's pick, 381 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: and they have Milwaukee's first round pick in two years. 382 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: So if the Hawks were to move the trade, I 383 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,719 Speaker 1: came up with yesterday Chris STAPs and former number one 384 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: overall pick Resa Schay for the New Orleans pick this year, 385 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: which might be the number one pick of the draft, 386 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: and Milwaukee's pick next year. That to me, if I'm 387 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: the Bucks, is at least interesting, But the Hawks are 388 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 1: not listed on these teams. My issue with the Heat 389 00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 1: Demanse is I don't see a scenario why the Heat 390 00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: would be in a much better position. 391 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:19,840 Speaker 2: With the amount of money they'd have to match right 392 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,880 Speaker 2: from their team. 393 00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: Right, So, like, what is this Heat team going to 394 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: look like once you have made the trade to get Yannis? 395 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 1: The only first round picks they can trade are in 396 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:41,719 Speaker 1: thirty and thirty two. You're I guess you'd have to 397 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:46,400 Speaker 1: include Bam, but then it's just Yannis and Hero and 398 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 1: like that to me does not put Yannis markedly closer 399 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,280 Speaker 1: to a title. So I there, I really like the 400 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: Hawks one if that's not what Yanni's want to do. 401 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:06,320 Speaker 1: There are there's a Rockets one that's interesting, and there 402 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: is a Spurs one, both of which I discussed yesterday 403 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: on the show, but we can discuss here. So the 404 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: Spurs have, okay, the following picks that they can move 405 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: off of Atlanta's first this year and next year. Okay, 406 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: that's interesting, Boston's first in two years, Dallas's first in 407 00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:49,040 Speaker 1: twenty thirty and Sacramento's first in twenty thirty one. So 408 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: the Spurs can move five first round picks, none of 409 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 1: which are the Spurs picks, which is the key here. 410 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: Like if you're Milwaukee, you're like your team's about to 411 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,200 Speaker 1: have Wemby and Giannis and those in those great guards. 412 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 1: Your picks are gonna suck. So the Spurs can include 413 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: a bunch of potentially awesome picks, like I mean, the 414 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,520 Speaker 1: Sacramento picks a long way down the road, but it's 415 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: an unprotected Sacramento first round pick is gold. Who knows 416 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 1: what Dallas looks like in five years, who knows even 417 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: what Boston looks like in three years, and then Atlanta 418 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: the next two years. Like that to me is interesting. 419 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 1: And here is what I think is the most intriguing 420 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: about the Spurs offer Demonsey that I came up with. 421 00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 1: They they can make the money work without trading any 422 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 1: of their young guards, Barnes and Vassell get the money 423 00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 1: to where it needs to be. So you still have Fox, 424 00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 1: you still have Castle, you still have Harper, And that 425 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: to me is if Milwaukee's like, listen, we're gonna rip 426 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,720 Speaker 1: it down and have these other team's picks to build. 427 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 2: With wet on the court. At the same time, it 428 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:14,760 Speaker 2: sounds insane. 429 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:20,400 Speaker 1: Would be bananas, So that to me is worth considering 430 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 1: five first round picks, none of which are the Spurs picks, 431 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: and the Spurs so the Spurs keep their own their 432 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 1: own picks and they keep their young players. That to 433 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: me is a legitimate possibility. And then there's the Rockets 434 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:48,959 Speaker 1: one which the Rockets have two potentially very valuable draft 435 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: assets and they're in the same draft, demonse not this 436 00:32:52,880 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 1: coming year, but next year. They have Brokeland's first and 437 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,560 Speaker 1: Phoenix's first. Now Phoenix is building a little something, but 438 00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: Brooklyn is miles away, and so the Rockets that Brooklyn 439 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:20,960 Speaker 1: picks very valuable, and they can trade Van Vliet, and 440 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:27,040 Speaker 1: I think you would then have to include Shingoon. 441 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 2: You think the Steven Adams injury might force them to 442 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: try to be extra aggressive for you, honest. 443 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:35,959 Speaker 1: Well, or it might or it might make them hit 444 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: the hit the brakes. They might say, we're not quite 445 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: as close. But Amon Thompson, Tarrysen, Reed Shepherd, Kevin Durant, Jannis, 446 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,960 Speaker 1: that to me is a real thing and real interesting. 447 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 1: And Shingoon and Yanni here's the thing, I'm sure they 448 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: want to And if you're Milwaukee, you get Shingoon, who 449 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 1: is a star and Brooklyn's pick in two years, and 450 00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: you build it up from there, and Shingoon and Yannis 451 00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: to meet Demon's don't really fit together because now two 452 00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,759 Speaker 1: of your five best guys are just non shooters. 453 00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so. 454 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:24,200 Speaker 1: That that to me is interesting. And then I'm gonna 455 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:33,719 Speaker 1: throw one other just possibility out there, okay, And this 456 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:43,720 Speaker 1: possibility is if this postseason goes poorly for the Thunder, 457 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 1: so this would not be a trade deadline deal. But 458 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,920 Speaker 1: the Thunder in this really weird position where over the 459 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 1: last two years they're awesome at full strength, but they 460 00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 1: are oddly unbeatable when Jalen Williams doesn't play. They're thirty 461 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 1: four and three over the last two years when Jadab 462 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,920 Speaker 1: doesn't play, and he has a five year max that 463 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: starts in the summer. So if Milwaukee waited until the summer, 464 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 1: could the Thunder put together a package of Jalen Williams 465 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: at his new max deal plus one other guy be 466 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 1: At Isaiah Joe, Aaron Wiggins, Caruso, the other Jalen Williams, 467 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: you know whomever. And then they have so many picks. 468 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: They have the Clippers first round pick this coming year, 469 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: the Rockets first round pick this coming year. They have 470 00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: Philly's first round pick this coming year. They have in 471 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:06,879 Speaker 1: twenty twenty seven, the Clippers first round pick, They have 472 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:13,279 Speaker 1: the MAVs first round pick in twenty twenty eight, they 473 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: have Denverse first round pick in twenty twenty nine, and 474 00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 1: of course all their own. So the Thunder could They're 475 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: not gonna do anything now, and they should. But if 476 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: this way, if this doesn't happen at the deadline, then 477 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: I would watch OKC pending on how their postseason goes. 478 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 1: But those to me are Atlanta, Houston, San Antonio at 479 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 1: the deadline are all so much more interesting than any 480 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:55,239 Speaker 1: of the four teams that the that have reached out 481 00:36:55,280 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: to Milwaukee and we talk about going Oh, I didn't 482 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: talk about the Timberwolves. That's interesting. So the Timberwolves problem 483 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 1: is they just don't They just don't have the draft picks, 484 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 1: and so I don't know how you make it work. 485 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what package you can build for the 486 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: Bucks that is super intriguing. And the Knicks are in 487 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: a very similar bucket where I'm sorry, I'm scrolling my 488 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 1: Google doc about the future draft assets. But then let 489 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,280 Speaker 1: me find where the Knicks are on here. The Knicks 490 00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 1: have traded away all their picks and so all they 491 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 1: can offer you is swaps and players, so like it 492 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,080 Speaker 1: would really have to be something close to like Yannis 493 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:05,080 Speaker 1: for Cat, and that don't make any sense for the Bucks. 494 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:09,920 Speaker 1: So I don't know how the Knicks make it happen. 495 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,320 Speaker 1: So go ahead. 496 00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:14,680 Speaker 2: Do you expect the Bucks to send you Honest where 497 00:38:14,680 --> 00:38:16,839 Speaker 2: he once or just to get the most value out 498 00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:17,120 Speaker 2: of them? 499 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: I think the Bucks should ask the Honest what his 500 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 1: five favored destinations are and say, we will do our 501 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,000 Speaker 1: very best to send you to one of those five, 502 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: but we can't let you, right, we can't let you, 503 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: and you know what, send us your five favorite You 504 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,879 Speaker 1: could do it a couple different ways. But I think 505 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 1: if it's like, send us five places and we will 506 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:03,359 Speaker 1: work diligently with those five teams. But I don't think 507 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,000 Speaker 1: you can just let him pick because if he picks 508 00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 1: New York, you're just screwed. Like there's just and I 509 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,879 Speaker 1: feel similarly if he picks Golden State, I just if 510 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: you're the one of the big keys. Here is Milwaukee 511 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 1: does not own their own picks. So that's the part 512 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:34,360 Speaker 1: that I just want to emphasize real quick about Milwaukee 513 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: and what you know tanking and what it means for 514 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:44,480 Speaker 1: them before we move on. Here's Milwaukee's situation. Okay, this 515 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:53,279 Speaker 1: coming year, uh, they this year they will have their 516 00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 1: pick unless somehow their pick is a better pick than 517 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,920 Speaker 1: the Pelicans pick. But they'll have and then they'll get 518 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,280 Speaker 1: the Pelicans pick. This year. Though they have their pick, 519 00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:09,080 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty seven, their pick goes to New Orleans 520 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: or Atlanta. In twenty twenty eight, their pick goes to 521 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: Portland or Washington, with somebody else's pick coming to them. 522 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: In twenty twenty nine, their pick goes to Portland or Washington. 523 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 1: In twenty thirty, Portland has the opportunity to swap picks 524 00:40:31,719 --> 00:40:42,760 Speaker 1: with them, So twenty seven, no this year through twenty thirty, 525 00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: but really twenty twenty seven, because we know New Orleans 526 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: is gonna have a worse pick than Milwaukee this year 527 00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: after this upcoming draft, if they they either don't have 528 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:57,920 Speaker 1: their pick at all or they're gonna have to swap 529 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: their pick for a worse one. So just Stone bottoming 530 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,080 Speaker 1: out does not allow them to replenish their assets as quickly. 531 00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:16,400 Speaker 1: So I I'm not certain he gets dealt before the deadline, 532 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: but if he does, the teams that can make the 533 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: best trades are Atlanta, the Spurs and the Rockets, and 534 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: the Warriors and Nicks. I'm sure. And let me ask 535 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: say one other thing. And I don't know where you 536 00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:42,320 Speaker 1: stand on this, Demansay, I don't think that the Warriors 537 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: trading Butler and Kaminga, and I know Butler's out for 538 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: Giannis guarantees them anything. I still don't. I don't know 539 00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: that I would look at them as favorites in the West, 540 00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 1: or even favorites to make the conference fine. 541 00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,200 Speaker 2: Just because of the drop off of not having Jimmy 542 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:02,239 Speaker 2: Butler as well or. 543 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:06,880 Speaker 1: Just as well. Yeah, I mean that's I guess I 544 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 1: look at it like this. Let's just say Kaminga is 545 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: a zero for them, right. The Warriors with a healthy 546 00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,920 Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler were miles away from contention this year. Is 547 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 1: the gap between Giannis and Jimmy Butler so massive and 548 00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: it's huge that it takes them from but it takes 549 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: them from miles away from contention to championship caliber. I 550 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: don't think so, and I am you would really be 551 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:47,320 Speaker 1: testing the limits of the Steph gravity when you're playing 552 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:53,279 Speaker 1: lineups of Draymond and Johannis in crunch time, you know 553 00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 1: as great as and So. I just I don't think 554 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 1: that is as sure now. Obviously, if you're the Warriors, 555 00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 1: you do it. But I'm saying. 556 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:09,840 Speaker 2: It's far from contention now, and then with Giannis, it'll 557 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:11,840 Speaker 2: just be like, all right, maybe they'll give somebody trouble 558 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,240 Speaker 2: in like the first or second round. 559 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: That's how I would feel. I would feel like their 560 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: ceiling would still be the probably the conference finals, maybe not. 561 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: I'd have to see a play together, and Giannis and 562 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,120 Speaker 1: step together would be unbelievable, But I wouldn't look at 563 00:43:27,160 --> 00:43:31,960 Speaker 1: that as it might be a juggernaut. But I also, 564 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: just if I'm Milwaukee, I hate that trade package. What 565 00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,319 Speaker 1: you're giving me is this guy picks and a guy 566 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: with a torn acl like and kaminga who you've been 567 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,560 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of. Like. I just that's not 568 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: a good package to me. All right, let's get back 569 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: to the NFL. 570 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,000 Speaker 2: So at the end of Tuesday show, we got the 571 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 2: news that the Bills were moving their offensive coordinator up 572 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 2: to head coach. So you've had a little bit more 573 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 2: time to sit and marinate on that. How much closer 574 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 2: do you think this pushes Josh Allen to the Super Bowl? 575 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:06,239 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if it pushes him 576 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:14,879 Speaker 1: closer at all. And I'm always nervous about these and 577 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: sometimes it works out. But this first time head coach 578 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,560 Speaker 1: that I'm gonna be the head coach and I'm gonna 579 00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,280 Speaker 1: call plays and I'm gonna like it's a big job 580 00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:29,600 Speaker 1: and not everybody can do it. And it was just 581 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:36,640 Speaker 1: really bizarre to me that the rationale for moving on 582 00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 1: from McDermott was essentially too much scar tissue and too 583 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 1: many brutal, brutal losses over the last few years. So 584 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: we're just gonna bring someone in who was in the 585 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: building and promote him and also I understand the defenses 586 00:44:58,239 --> 00:45:02,239 Speaker 1: have been awful in these playoff losses. I get that, 587 00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,160 Speaker 1: And you want to hang that on McDermott. That's totally fair. 588 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: He's a defensive minded head coach. But there's two pieces 589 00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:15,880 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be ignored. One is I expect the Bills 590 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: defense in the regular season at least to take a 591 00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:22,080 Speaker 1: step back without Sean McDermott. But they knew that going in, 592 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,719 Speaker 1: and they don't know who their decordinator is. Rat Sheet 593 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,560 Speaker 1: a couple days ago, I know, lightly reported they were 594 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,680 Speaker 1: hiring Jim Leonard, and then I saw yesterday Jim Leonard's 595 00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:37,040 Speaker 1: interviewing for a different defensive coordinator job. So they have 596 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 1: not hired him yet. That's pretty clear. So the defense 597 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,239 Speaker 1: would worry me. And here's the other thing about those 598 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,920 Speaker 1: playoff losses. Yes, the defense lets you down, but the offense, 599 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:55,480 Speaker 1: which was called by Joe Brady, had the ball down 600 00:45:55,640 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 1: three or in overtime in each of the last three 601 00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:05,240 Speaker 1: playoff losses and came away with a total of zero points. 602 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,600 Speaker 1: And that guy's now the head coach, And so I 603 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,480 Speaker 1: would be a little nervous if I were the Bills. 604 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:18,200 Speaker 1: I understand. Moving on, from Sean McDermott. But it's a 605 00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,640 Speaker 1: real risk and so it would make me anxious. Let's 606 00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 1: go to the AFC North coaching stuff before we keep going. 607 00:46:26,120 --> 00:46:28,319 Speaker 2: A bunch of coaching stuff going on the AFC North. 608 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 2: So the Steelers now have Mike McCarthy, we got Jesse Menser, 609 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 2: the Ravens, and now the Browns have our old OC 610 00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,200 Speaker 2: Todd Munkin. What do you think the hierarchy and the 611 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 2: AFC nor should be with all this stuff going on? 612 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: I think it is very clearly Ravens won, very clearly 613 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: Brown's last. And uh, and then I don't know right 614 00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 1: now Steelers or Bengals too because while listen Mike McCarthy, 615 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,080 Speaker 1: you can say there's a ceiling and like they're going 616 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:25,200 Speaker 1: to be well coached and he's going to get good 617 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 1: play from the quarterback position. Now I don't like the 618 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: idea at all of them bringing back Rogers, but I 619 00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:36,000 Speaker 1: don't think that's a fate accomplete and the Bengals are 620 00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:40,440 Speaker 1: just you know, running it back once again. And so 621 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:49,080 Speaker 1: I listen, this is to me, demand's a good the 622 00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,560 Speaker 1: other two we'll see how good Jesse Mentor is. Yeah, 623 00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 1: he was the hot name if you were going to 624 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 1: hire a defensive coordinator be the head coach. He's the 625 00:47:58,760 --> 00:48:01,480 Speaker 1: guy you wanted. You gotta you know, we don't know, 626 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:12,880 Speaker 1: but be optimistic, right, So the and so that's fine. 627 00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:18,480 Speaker 1: The Steelers making it clear we're not interested in bottoming 628 00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 1: out to try to draft a quarterback and you know, 629 00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 1: building something that could be a contender, I think is 630 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: good for you. Guys like the Steelers will just you know, 631 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: continue to be I at least for the time being, 632 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, oh okay, but not great a threat. And 633 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:38,239 Speaker 1: the Bengals just running it back with Zach Taylor again. 634 00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 2: Is coaching the division? 635 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. I mean, I gotta see market 636 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 1: and jesse mentor too. But the the Browns, I don't 637 00:48:52,440 --> 00:48:54,360 Speaker 1: even want to talk about the Browns. The Browns process 638 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,440 Speaker 1: is so flawed and they hire a coaching firm and 639 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,960 Speaker 1: then they move. It's just so bad. Uh. And the 640 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,880 Speaker 1: owner there is just so bad and makes it so 641 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,040 Speaker 1: hard to build any type of a winner. All right, 642 00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:10,520 Speaker 1: let's we'll keep going in a second. 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Delivery available for 652 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:47,680 Speaker 1: select devices purchase at boost mobile dot Com. Terms do apply. 653 00:49:49,080 --> 00:49:51,720 Speaker 1: All right, let's quickly get to these other stories before 654 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:53,640 Speaker 1: we get the listener questions. 655 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,239 Speaker 2: Oh, so a couple head coach vacancies and the Cardinals 656 00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,680 Speaker 2: and Raiders. And Raiders have the first round pick and 657 00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 2: a lot of coordinator spots still hope, including Denver and Philly. 658 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 2: Which one of these are remaining spots in chesh you 659 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:07,760 Speaker 2: the most. 660 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: Well, listen. I think the Raiders' job is an interesting 661 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,080 Speaker 1: job because you have the number one pick, so that 662 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:14,760 Speaker 1: makes it, you know, if you believe in Nano Mendoza, 663 00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:17,440 Speaker 1: that makes it an interesting job. And Mark Davis will 664 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 1: spend money, so that's first thing. Sean Payton firing as 665 00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: OC is noteworthy, and that's not that plumb of a 666 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:35,560 Speaker 1: job because you don't get to call plays. So maybe 667 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,040 Speaker 1: they promote Davis Webb. But Davis Webb, who thought he 668 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,040 Speaker 1: might get a head coaching job, you know, might be like, 669 00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: I want to go somewhere I can call plays, and 670 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,640 Speaker 1: that's gonna be an interesting job to fill. But the 671 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:54,360 Speaker 1: fact that nobody wants the Eagles offensive coordinator job because everybody, 672 00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:57,759 Speaker 1: I think the reasoning is everybody is worried Sirianne's gonna 673 00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,440 Speaker 1: be fired in a year. That is something to watch. 674 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,640 Speaker 1: That job's been open a while, they've interviewed a dozen people. 675 00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:09,160 Speaker 1: They don't have it, And I imagine Clint Kubiak is 676 00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:12,759 Speaker 1: gonna end up in Arizona or Las Vegas. And then 677 00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:16,239 Speaker 1: I have no idea who the head coach of the 678 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,239 Speaker 1: You know, the final opening is all right, let's talk 679 00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,160 Speaker 1: Lebron for a second before we get to listener questions. 680 00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 2: Oh, Lebron had his homecoming last night, and that was 681 00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:30,840 Speaker 2: ruined by a thirty point blowoutports a lot of chatter 682 00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:35,040 Speaker 2: about the Calves potentially accepting him back into Cleveland if 683 00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 2: he leaves the Lakers. Where do you see him going? 684 00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 2: You see him going somewhere else? 685 00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:43,560 Speaker 1: Listen, I I don't think Lebron. I know, he was 686 00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,520 Speaker 1: very emotional last night, which made people wonder like, is 687 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 1: that going to be his last game in Cleveland? And 688 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,719 Speaker 1: it certainly could have been his last game in Cleveland. 689 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,520 Speaker 1: I don't think it's likely. I think he plans to 690 00:51:58,520 --> 00:52:03,520 Speaker 1: play another year. But when you're in year twenty three, 691 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,120 Speaker 1: like if and you hate to even put this into 692 00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: the universe, but if Lebron suffered a bad injury this 693 00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:15,600 Speaker 1: season where it's like, ah, rehabs, you know, six to 694 00:52:15,719 --> 00:52:21,160 Speaker 1: nine months, then his career is probably over, right like 695 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: if the and so I think he recognized it was 696 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,399 Speaker 1: on the board that was his last time playing there, 697 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,359 Speaker 1: and that's why he was as emotional as he was. 698 00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,279 Speaker 1: But I don't think this is going to be his 699 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:41,799 Speaker 1: last year. And the Calves, you know, at one point, 700 00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,920 Speaker 1: seemed to publicly be like, no, we're we're building this. 701 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:49,839 Speaker 1: We're good, we don't need Bron back because they won 702 00:52:49,960 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: fifty games three years ago and then got clipped in 703 00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:57,800 Speaker 1: round one, and then the next year they won forty 704 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: eight games and got gentlemen swept in round two, and 705 00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:06,399 Speaker 1: then last year they won sixty four games and they 706 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:12,080 Speaker 1: got gentlemen swept in Round three and this year they're 707 00:53:12,120 --> 00:53:22,160 Speaker 1: good but disappointing twenty nine to twenty If Lebron plays 708 00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:26,080 Speaker 1: another year and it's not with the Lakers, and I 709 00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,319 Speaker 1: would imagine right now my money would be on he's 710 00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 1: gonna play another year, and my money would be on 711 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: it's not gonna be with the Lakers. It's just no insight, 712 00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: just my gut. I think there's only two real options, 713 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:42,959 Speaker 1: and I think it's the calves of the Knicks, two 714 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: teams that thought going into last year and going into 715 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,799 Speaker 1: this year we have a championship caliber team and are 716 00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:55,919 Speaker 1: now realizing no, we don't, and say what you want 717 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 1: of endless. Lebron was not good last night, but he 718 00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:04,040 Speaker 1: is still pretty easily one of the twenty best players 719 00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:07,160 Speaker 1: in the league and can greatly impact winning in a 720 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:10,040 Speaker 1: lot of ways, particularly if he's on a team like 721 00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:14,840 Speaker 1: Cleveland or New York that certainly is a better fit 722 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: for him than the Lakers is presently constituted. So my 723 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:23,600 Speaker 1: I think him going back to Cleveland next year is 724 00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 1: a very real possibility for a farewell tour of sorts, 725 00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: and I don't think the Knicks is off the table. 726 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 1: All right, let's do some listener questions, here. 727 00:54:35,120 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 2: A Lakers fan, the chatter making packages to land Giannis, 728 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,359 Speaker 2: do you give that even a five percent chance of having? 729 00:54:41,560 --> 00:54:43,719 Speaker 1: Absolutely not. There's no way for the Lakers to get 730 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:49,120 Speaker 1: Jannis without trading Luca, and while for this year and 731 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: this year alone with Austin, when Austin Reeves is fully healthy, 732 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,600 Speaker 1: Jannis is probably a better fit on this Lakers team 733 00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: than Luca. You would be insane to trade lucad his 734 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:05,120 Speaker 1: a with his upside for Giannis and so and so. 735 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:08,560 Speaker 1: They're not trading him obviously. So No, there's no way 736 00:55:08,600 --> 00:55:12,080 Speaker 1: to get Yannis to La without trading Lucan. That's not happening. 737 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:16,680 Speaker 2: Jordan asked, does this Belichick snow potentially make Sean Payton 738 00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:18,799 Speaker 2: not a Hall of Famer because of bounty Gate? 739 00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's interesting. I mean, it's certainly a set of 740 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,600 Speaker 1: press and he might have to wait, and I don't 741 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:28,560 Speaker 1: think that would be outrageous. Again, I think Belichick's going 742 00:55:28,560 --> 00:55:30,640 Speaker 1: to be a Hall of Famer, but he's just not 743 00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: first ballot, all right. 744 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,640 Speaker 2: Keep going, Joey asked Demanzi. Do you think the new 745 00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,040 Speaker 2: Ravens coach can get the Ravens back on track? I 746 00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,320 Speaker 2: like that he was the defensive coordinator for the Chargers. 747 00:55:41,360 --> 00:55:43,960 Speaker 2: I think that with Lamar Jackson will have the offense 748 00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 2: figured out, so that at the very least, but hopefully 749 00:55:48,320 --> 00:55:51,799 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson comes with it next year. But yeah, but yeah, 750 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:53,680 Speaker 2: I do think there need to be a change. I'm 751 00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:54,759 Speaker 2: not mad at it at all. 752 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,400 Speaker 1: Yeah it was I think it can be true that 753 00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:00,520 Speaker 1: John Harwall is a good coach and all so true, 754 00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:05,439 Speaker 1: the Ravens needed change, and I think moving on from 755 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:09,600 Speaker 1: Harvall was good for the team's long term future with Lamar. 756 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: All right. Reminder, everybody like rate subscribe review to the show. 757 00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:20,719 Speaker 1: It helps us out a ton our preseason gambling recap 758 00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:25,279 Speaker 1: show plus my single favorite Super Bowl prop that's on 759 00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,400 Speaker 1: tomorrow's show, so tune in for that big thanks to 760 00:56:28,520 --> 00:56:31,800 Speaker 1: Volume and to Blue Duck, and of course our great sponsors, 761 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,800 Speaker 1: hard Rock Bet and Boost Mobile. Talk to you guys tomorrow. 762 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:35,239 Speaker 1: What's right