1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies. History is 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: riddled with unexplained events. You can turn back now or 3 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: learn the stuff they don't want you to know. M 4 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. My name is Matt name 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,159 Speaker 1: they called me Ben. We are joined as always with 6 00:00:29,200 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 1: our super producer Paul Mission Controlled decond which will be 7 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 1: a very appropriate name for today's episode. Most importantly, folks, 8 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 1: thanks for dropping in. You are you, and you are 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 1: here and that makes this stuff they don't want you 10 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:48,839 Speaker 1: to know. A quick question there for all of us 11 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,520 Speaker 1: and then everyone listening as well. When you were a kid, 12 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: did you ever think of being an astronaut when you 13 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: grew up? I thought of nothing else. We have we 14 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: have talked about the fact. Yeah, everyone went to space 15 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: camp and me and you got your shirt. It was 16 00:01:04,440 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: too small, I know I saw that. Sorry, but we 17 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 1: can cut it up and turn it into something else. 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: It's called give it to my child. There you go, 19 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: and maybe maybe it'll get her to aspire to go 20 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: to space camp on our own one day. Oh yeah, 21 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: and to your point, to your point, definitely being an astronaut, 22 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: thinking of exploring the unexplored like that that I think 23 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: that's a dream of a lot of people. Absolutely, it's 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,880 Speaker 1: a dream job. I mean, just imagine you literally go 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: where almost no one has ever gone before, and no 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: matter how abstract or inconsequential your mission might seem to 27 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:42,720 Speaker 1: the contemporary public, in a very real way, if you 28 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: are an astronaut, you are paving humanity's path to the stars. 29 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 1: Even if you're the world's worst astronaut, which I think 30 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 1: we talked about on the previous I mean, even being 31 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: the world's worst astronaut, you're no slouch, right right, it's 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: still pretty good. Yeah, But all the other astronauts, no, 33 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 1: because I'm sure there's a list. Do you think they 34 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 1: keep tabs like Steve is the worst one? I hope. 35 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: So I've been you know, we've talked about this off air. 36 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 1: I've been obsessed with this idea for a while, the 37 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: idea that somewhere there is the world's worst astronaut, and 38 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:18,360 Speaker 1: because it's such a small group or a small community, 39 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,360 Speaker 1: everyone knows it's like Steve or Derek or something. They're 40 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 1: getting their orders to go on the mission. They're like, 41 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: all right, this all sounds great, and go, oh uh, 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 1: one more thing. Uh, Derek's going to be on the 43 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: squad and they're all like, he's always opening his diet 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: coke and zero gravity gets everywhere, It gets all on 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: the instruments and stuff. It's not a pretty scene. Always 46 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: hitting on the server at Applebee's by saying he's an 47 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: astronaut and then trying to get a discount. I mean, 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: a very few can actually use that pickup line and 49 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: be speaking the truth. So okay, we'll give Steve that 50 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:54,960 Speaker 1: that's true. That's true. Steve and Derek sound like they 51 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: are in a contest. I always picture the world's worst 52 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 1: astronaut is Derek. But right in and let us know 53 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: what you think the world's worst astronaut. Where do you think? Oh, 54 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,679 Speaker 1: he's near the top. He's a good as a good one. Yeah, 55 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: because the level of entry is just so high to 56 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,639 Speaker 1: be an astronaut. Uh. And you know, to be absolutely fair, 57 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: the difference in degree between the worst and the best 58 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 1: here is hopefully very small. They've got high standards. But 59 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: today's episode is about astronauts. In fact, it's about one 60 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 1: of the most famous astronauts in the world, Buzz Aldrin. 61 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 1: Everyone calls him Buzz. His real name is Edwin Eugene Aldrin. Jr. 62 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: But you know, buzz, that's cool. Objectively cooler, agreed, objectively cooler. 63 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: That's part of the that's part of what they look 64 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: for in astronauts, right. He was born on January nineteen 65 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: thirty in Montclair, New Jersey. His father was a colonel 66 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:54,040 Speaker 1: in the US Air Force. UH encouraged his interest in 67 00:03:54,080 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: flight from a very very young age, so much so 68 00:03:56,840 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: that he graduated high school one year early, attended Military 69 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 1: Academy at West Point where you're inned A BS and 70 00:04:02,960 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: mechanical engineering. Joined the Air Force after graduation. He flew 71 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: F eighty six sabers and sixty six combat missions and 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 1: shot down two m I G s. He was decorated 73 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: with Distinguished Flying Cross. He flew F one hundreds in Germany, 74 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 1: and then he went back to school, earned a doctorate 75 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: in science in astronautics at m I T and wrote 76 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: this thesis on manned orbital rendezvous. That's pretty darn cool man. 77 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm not impressed, not yet, Just wait right, okay. In 78 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty three, NASA selected him to become an astronaut, 79 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: one member of their third group of Astronauts. What a 80 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,760 Speaker 1: crazy time that must have been. Its la We've got 81 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: this new job. See where we shoot you up into space. 82 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: We're gonna try and put you on the moon maybe 83 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: if that's cool with you. We actually know it doesn't 84 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 1: matter you're doing it. They may not have hold of you, know, 85 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: but obviously this is what you wanted to imagine getting 86 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: a degree in astronautics at that day and age in 87 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: the sixties. Now I have a question. I know nasays 88 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: it's an independent agency or organization. It's not connected directly 89 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 1: to the military, But do astronauts have like the are 90 00:05:16,760 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: they commanders? Do they get orders when they're given a mission? 91 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: Is it like you get court martialed as an astronaut. Yeah, 92 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: this is a good question because they can have a 93 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: number of ranks or positions. There might be a mission 94 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:35,559 Speaker 1: specialist who has a scientific acumen that's needed, but there's 95 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: gonna be a pilot, a commander, a command module pilot. 96 00:05:40,360 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: It changes, I think depending on the mission or the program. 97 00:05:43,440 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: So like in Mercury, in the Mercury program they just 98 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:50,520 Speaker 1: had a pilot, and Gemini they had a command pilot 99 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: and a pilot. And then if you go to things 100 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: like the Space Shuttle, there's a payload commander, there's a 101 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: flight engineer. Yeah. Actually I just look this up. It 102 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,440 Speaker 1: looks like there are military astronauts, but they're technically is 103 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: a funny term, on loan to NASA, and they're still 104 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: held to the standards of their particular branch um of 105 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: the Uniform Code of Military Justice for example. That's fascinating. 106 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: That makes sense though, because there's not enough of a 107 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: demand for people, right we don't have enough spaceships to 108 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 1: to justify NASA having its own military branch yet hopefully. So, Yeah, 109 00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: he becomes an astronaut and he gets another kick ass nickname. 110 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: This guy is so nickname rich. He gets the nickname 111 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: Doctor Rendezvous. Yeah, that's awesome. By the way, Buzz came 112 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: from his sister couldn't pronounce brother and and pronounced it buzzer, 113 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: and so that's where buzz came from. I was thinking 114 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 1: he might have gotten it when he was a fighter pilot, 115 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: our head haircutter or something. Now he's Dr Buzz Rendezvous, 116 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 1: which is up there with Antis Toboggan. You know, as 117 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: you just pull that one out of the ether that's 118 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: always sunny in philadelph I don't know that. Uh yeah, 119 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:10,520 Speaker 1: Mantis Tobogan is a great one. Also a doctor, I believe. 120 00:07:10,920 --> 00:07:13,120 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, he was the first astronaut with a doctorate. 121 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: That's why he got the nickname Doctor Rendezvous. Additionally here 122 00:07:16,280 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: in this nickname because he created the docking and rendezvous 123 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: techniques for spacecraft and lunar Earth orbit. These were mission 124 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: critical for the success of the Gemini and Apollo programs 125 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: because you know, once you get people into space, they 126 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: need to be able to rendezvous and dock with things. 127 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and especially if they're going to send part 128 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: of the ship down to the Moon and then get 129 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: that ship that part back up to the main ship 130 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: and then get out of there. All yeah, yeah, that's 131 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 1: a really good point. I mean, that's crazy stuff. You 132 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: think about the math behind that, and I just melt 133 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: away and you can't you can't find me for several days. 134 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: Just the precision involved and everything has to be just so, 135 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: the timing has to be absolutely perfect, nothing can go wrong. 136 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: I know, just think the heavens literally that Dr Rendezvous 137 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: was around. Doctor was Rendezvous. That's what if we get 138 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: him on the show, do you think he'll let us 139 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: call him Dr Rendezvous or is that like a term 140 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: only other astronauts can use? He might make a face. 141 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: Have you seen his face? He makes a pretty intense 142 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: stink face. Oh yeah, he is. He is not reticent 143 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: about exhibiting his displeasure because you know, why does he 144 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,439 Speaker 1: need to why does he need to play nice? He's 145 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: done at all. Man, He's been on the moon. He's 146 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 1: kind of untouchable. He can he could get away with 147 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 1: a lot of stuff. Now, he could put out a 148 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: bad New Age spiritual album and people would still say, 149 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: you know what, it's not my favorite music. But he 150 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 1: has been on the moon. Can we talk about the 151 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: fact that he pioneered a ton of the training techniques 152 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,600 Speaker 1: used to train astronauts, Like, you know, you always see 153 00:08:57,600 --> 00:09:01,080 Speaker 1: them training for zero gravity work in the giant pools. 154 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 1: That was his idea. That his idea. He yeah, he 155 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: did the underwater training techniques. He also performed the world's 156 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: first successful space walk, which if you notice there's a 157 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: weird caveat in there, the world's first successful spacewalk. Uh. 158 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,559 Speaker 1: This was on the Gemini twelve orbital mission in nineteen 159 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: sixty six. He set a new e v A extra 160 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 1: vehicular activity record of five and a half hours and 161 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: also he took the first selfie in space. Yeah he did. 162 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: I love this guy. Just thinking about that. I really 163 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: like this dude. He I wish he was like my grandpa. 164 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: Oh manran grandpa Buzz. Yeah, let me sit on his knee, 165 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: tell me tales of space exploration, adventure. Teach you, teach 166 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: you the complex science of trajectories and zero gravity, explained 167 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: the calculus of space talking. I would probably be a 168 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: lot smarter if Buzz alternate and my grandpapa, I would, 169 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: you know, even beyond a familiar relationship. I want to 170 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,080 Speaker 1: just have him in my crew. So when I take 171 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:12,319 Speaker 1: group pictures, it could be like, oh, there's there's there's 172 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: the gang. Oh who's that. Oh that's Dr Rendezvous. Yeah, 173 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: and he's just in the back. He's not even paying attention, chilling. 174 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: He's got aviators on. He's running the numbers man. Yeah, 175 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: he's running the numbers. He can perfectly throw things into 176 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: trash cans in an office from across the hall. Anyway. 177 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: That's that's all awesome and pales in comparison to this 178 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: stuff that he did, especially on July n that's the 179 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,800 Speaker 1: big one. That's when he and Neil Armstrong made their 180 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: historic Apollo eleven moonwalk. They landed on the Moon. He 181 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: took the giant steps for mankind in that warehouse in 182 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 1: burbank Um, captured brilliantly by Stanley Kubrick. Maybe no, maybe 183 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: we should do an episode on that in the future. 184 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 1: We always talk about that, Fellow conspiracy realists. There are 185 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: a couple of episodes that we always kick around off 186 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: air and say we're going to get to one day. 187 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: Let us know if you would like to explore the 188 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,960 Speaker 1: Stanley Kubrick faking the moon landing. Yeah, we did that 189 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: episode on the movie, the movie that we watched where 190 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:26,440 Speaker 1: it's fictionalized. Remember that was a good one. But for 191 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: the purposes of this episode, let's operate as though this 192 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 1: were a real thing that actually in fact happened. Okay, yeah, yeah, 193 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,880 Speaker 1: we'll we'll table that. We're tabling all the moon shenanigans 194 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: lunar shenanigans for a future episode. But we do want 195 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: to hear from you. Let us know what you think 196 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: about this. We are conspiracy How stuff Works dot Com 197 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: a couple of facts about the moonwalk and estimated six 198 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,599 Speaker 1: hundred million people tuned in to watch. That was the 199 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: largest television audience and history at the time, and when 200 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: buzz and co returned. They received the Presidential Medal of 201 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 1: Free Him. Over the rest of his life post lunar landing, um, 202 00:12:04,600 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: buzz Aldrin received the Congressional Gold Medal, tons and tons 203 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: of other numerous awards. He has an asteroid named after him. 204 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 1: He has a creator on the Moon named after him. Uh. 205 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: He is a prolific writer, writes a lot of children's books. Surprisingly, 206 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: it was Operation Avalanche, by the way, Operation Avalanche. That 207 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: was the movie. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, And do 208 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 1: check out that episode if you haven't listened to it. 209 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: It was pretty good. But uh, he is still an 210 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: advocate for space exploration. And again you know he he 211 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: went on the moon. But there's more to the story, 212 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: you see more and more people in sources will tell 213 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: you that while exploring space, buzz Aldrin and his colleagues 214 00:12:52,440 --> 00:12:55,600 Speaker 1: didn't just see lunar rocks and moon dust. They believe 215 00:12:55,640 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: instead that he, along with his fellow astronauts, saw something 216 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: star ardeling, an inexplicable, something that, if publicly acknowledged, could 217 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: fundamentally change our species understanding of the space around our 218 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: planet and the universe as a whole. Are you saying 219 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,320 Speaker 1: buzz Aldrin saw some sort of life form. We'll be 220 00:13:17,360 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: back after a word from our sponsor. Here's where it 221 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 1: gets crazy. According to several different sources, Yes, buzz Aldrin 222 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 1: allegedly saw a UFO in space. You have if you, 223 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: if you have any interest in stories of astronauts and 224 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: stories of space exploration, we are certain that you have 225 00:13:45,520 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: seen this pop up in your maybe your news feed 226 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: wherever you get your news, or heard about it on 227 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 1: a forum or something like that. Apparently buzz Aldrin saw 228 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 1: a UFO. Yes, and this is an not the first 229 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: time that it was reported, but the latest iteration of 230 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: something like this came on April eight. Yeah, it was 231 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: a British tabloid called The Daily Star, and they reported 232 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 1: that buzz Aldron and three other astronauts, Gordon Cooper, edgar 233 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:23,840 Speaker 1: Mitchell and al Warden, they participated in this study. And 234 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 1: we'll get into what the study actually was, but a 235 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: study that revealed buzz Aldron as well as some of 236 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:31,840 Speaker 1: these other guys, had in fact seen some kind of 237 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: bizarre object or unexplainable phenomena in space. Right with a 238 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: specific quote attributed to Dr Rendezvous, which I'm just I'm 239 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: going to have to call him for the rest of 240 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:46,880 Speaker 1: this show. Okay, uh say, Allegedly he said there was 241 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 1: something out there that was close enough to be observed, 242 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: sort of l shaped. Yeah, yeah, we'll talk about that attribution, 243 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: like you said, Yeah, so we'll tell us a little 244 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,360 Speaker 1: bit about what what went down there? What's this skinny, 245 00:15:00,400 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: what's the scoop? Okay? So the test that they participated 246 00:15:05,000 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: in was a different kind of lie detector test and 247 00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: not the one that you might be familiar with if 248 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: you watch C s I shows and things like that 249 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 1: that monitors your specific biometrics of your body, your sweat, 250 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: your what your heart beat, your heart rate, and things 251 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,880 Speaker 1: like that. Um, let's let's just get into it. So 252 00:15:24,720 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read some of the some couple of little 253 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 1: quotes here from the article. It definitely states that those 254 00:15:30,080 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: four astronauts took part and they all passed this whatever 255 00:15:33,560 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 1: this version of a lie detector test was, and the 256 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:42,280 Speaker 1: experts say that, um, the results show and that these 257 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 1: experts are completely convinced that signs of alien life were 258 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: actually seen by these gentlemen. It was conducted at this 259 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:55,600 Speaker 1: place called the Institute of Bioacoustic Biology in Albany, Ohio. 260 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: According to the article, and it says they carried out 261 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:04,040 Speaker 1: complex compute analyzes of the astronauts voice patterns as they 262 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: told of their close encounters. So that's that's how they're 263 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: looking at these And something that's really important to talk about. 264 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 1: Two of those astronauts that they looked at Edgar Mitchell 265 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: and Gordon Cooper when they performed this test. These guys 266 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: are deceased. Yeah, they're dead. So the story is at 267 00:16:21,760 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: the very least coming from a misleading a misleading base 268 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: because the way it's written, it implies that the astronauts 269 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: are being analyzed in real time or that they were 270 00:16:39,080 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: speaking to the people conducting the study, and that is 271 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 1: not that. That is not the case. And here is 272 00:16:45,040 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: something of great convenience. Here's another quote from the article. 273 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 1: Although the technology is still top secret, these studies are 274 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 1: claimed to be more reliable than current LYE detector tests 275 00:16:56,840 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: and could soon replace those used by the FBI and 276 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:04,520 Speaker 1: police pace top secret huh, Yeah, it's top secret LIE 277 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: detector technology. And Albany, Ohio at the Institute of Bioacoustic Biology. 278 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:12,720 Speaker 1: Things can be secret, but they can't really be top 279 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 1: secret unless they're classified that way by a government. Yeah, 280 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: and you're not going to have somebody writing anywhere, especially 281 00:17:20,320 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: in the Daily Star, about something that is top secret. 282 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: I guess a lot of non government agencies use the 283 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: phrase proprietary, like proprietary technology. That makes a lot of 284 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 1: sense for what this could be. And we'll get into 285 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: what it is in a second. Wait, so do you 286 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,400 Speaker 1: wanna do you want to talk about bioacoustics? You want 287 00:17:39,400 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: to hang on for a second. Yeah, let's jump into bioacoustics. Okay, 288 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: sounded man, It's okay. I'm I'm interested in this stuff 289 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: and I want to know if there's any I don't 290 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: know basis for what what the things what these people 291 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 1: are claiming, but as of right now, OCAM's razor is 292 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: pointing me in an unfortunate direction. Let's just say, Okay, 293 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 1: you can go to bioacoustic Research dot com and you 294 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:09,560 Speaker 1: can learn about the Bioacoustic Biology Research Studio that's in 295 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:15,640 Speaker 1: Northwest Ohio. Okay, let's see it's an independent research studio 296 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:21,879 Speaker 1: and it's currently working on projects regarding PTSD and radiation. Okay, 297 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: so that's that's interesting. Um. It has references to the 298 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: high radiation levels present in the sky, and let's see 299 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: if you go down on the website a little bit, 300 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: you can see pictures of the studio that they've got 301 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: here there. They're recording studio essentially, and it looks fine, 302 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: it looks cool, but it looks like somebody's house for sure. 303 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,880 Speaker 1: And then if you continue going down the rabbit hole, 304 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: you'll find a thing called sound health Portal dot com 305 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,240 Speaker 1: that is also related to this bio acoustic biology website. 306 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:01,639 Speaker 1: But the we should also plan on to be fair. 307 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: Just because something's operating out of someone's house doesn't de 308 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: legitimize it. Oh no, absolutely does not delegitimize it. Thank 309 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: you for pointing that out then, But it's um It 310 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: doesn't give it the same gravitass as if there is 311 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: spending by the government for anything like this. It doesn't 312 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: show that there's a large number of people probably working 313 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 1: on this project. It's probably a very small number of 314 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 1: employees or self self made recording and experts. And so 315 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 1: the idea here at base then would be that using 316 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: this proprietary secret technology, the researchers are able to I guess, 317 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: mine things from voices that would not ordinarily be discernible 318 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: because I remember they go into medicine a little bit 319 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, so, okay. Here at sound health portal 320 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: dot com it says what is human bioacoustics and it 321 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,840 Speaker 1: states the state of your health is in the sound 322 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: of your voice. Frequencies and architectures found in the human 323 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: voice can be used to identify the innate mathematical bio 324 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:13,400 Speaker 1: markers that represent states of health and wellness. It sounds 325 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 1: a little strange, let's keep going. Frequency based medicine is 326 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: currently positioned at the top of today's alternative health options. Okay, 327 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,959 Speaker 1: so we're looking at an alternative health option here, everything 328 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: from homeopathy to essential oils would be considered something like that. 329 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: And then if you keep going down the website, you'll 330 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: you'll see things like math matrixes for each individual for 331 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: your health and wellness UM bio acoustic vocal profiling, which 332 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: sounds fascinating. It does sound fascinating. I think one thing 333 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: that a lot of people have a problem with regarding 334 00:20:51,359 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: bioacoustics would be that in other other aspects or in 335 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: other parts of the web, it's also associated with the 336 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: discovery of ancient wisdom or rediscovery of it. There's a 337 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: quote from Sherry Edwards about this where she says novel 338 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:14,680 Speaker 1: research supports the assertion that ancient templar cross architecture contains 339 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: math codes that support frequency based medicine. The idea of 340 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: revisiting lost knowledge through the use of computer constructed biometrics 341 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: provides a new paradigm that will change the face of 342 00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: future medicine. It sounds cool, it sounds really interesting. Secrets 343 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: of the templar Dan Brown type stuff. And speaking of 344 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,240 Speaker 1: Sherry Edwards, she works with bioacoustics, and she said that 345 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: the tests that Aldrin went through um. She said that 346 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,399 Speaker 1: Aldrin is sure he saw the UFO, even though his 347 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 1: logical mind cannot explain it. So with whatever testing she did, 348 00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,440 Speaker 1: the top secret stuff, she was able to tell that 349 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: he definitely saw something. So it's not a lie detector. 350 00:21:58,680 --> 00:22:00,760 Speaker 1: It is in a way, I guess, I don't I 351 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: don't understand that it's not a polygraph. I guess is 352 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 1: what we're saying, because usually when you say lie detect 353 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 1: it's the way you're describing it sounds like an everything detector. 354 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: It's it's looking at the vocal patterns of a person. 355 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: So I'm assuming that's some kind of spectral analysis of 356 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,159 Speaker 1: the vocal like after you record somebody. It's some kind 357 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: of spectral analysis and what are you saying it It 358 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 1: can tell you things about your your health. Yeah, that's 359 00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: that's what it's. That's what the Bioacoustic Biology Institute is saying, 360 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 1: and even even unto the degree of being able to 361 00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: tell you if you will have a quote negative outcome 362 00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: from vaccination based on your voice. And that's that's weird 363 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: because it's it's saying they can tell that before a 364 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,600 Speaker 1: vaccination occurs. So that's the This is the institute conducting 365 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: the tests. And they said that I saw UFOs according 366 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,400 Speaker 1: to Sherry Edwards. Yeah, and it says that they all did. 367 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 1: And if we go back to the art goal, it 368 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: states that al Warden, who at the time was eight six, 369 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:10,840 Speaker 1: was on Good Morning Britain and he he apparently claimed 370 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,600 Speaker 1: to have seen extraterrestrials and he also believes that we're 371 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: all descended from some form of ancient aliens. And I mean, really, dude, 372 00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: it makes me want to go down that rabbit hole again. 373 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: We've been down that route hold several times on this 374 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: show and in our Just Daily lives. Um. But you 375 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,359 Speaker 1: know it's not just him. You also get Edgar Mitchell, 376 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: who also had claimed to seeing UFOs. I don't know. 377 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: He was talking more about chasing a group of UFOs 378 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 1: rather than just a single one or something. And then 379 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,320 Speaker 1: again the article claims that through the testing, all of 380 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:50,159 Speaker 1: these men seemed to be telling the truth and the 381 00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 1: whole truth and nothing. But yep, if this is true, 382 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: it's it's astonishing, right, it's mind blowing, and we have 383 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: to contain in our excitement and ask ourselves about the source. 384 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: What about this thing? Does it measure up? Are there 385 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 1: other sources that confirm it contradicted? What do the people 386 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: involved actually say? What does buzz Aldrin say? We'll tell 387 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: you after a word from our sponsor. So go into 388 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:28,280 Speaker 1: this source. We see that's also been associated with a 389 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: viral video that was describing this and got shared everywhere 390 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 1: on Facebook and probably on Reddit and so on and 391 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: so on and so on. But what do we know 392 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: about the actual newspaper, The Daily Star? So yeah, I 393 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: mean it's what they do. But a tabloid, The Daily Star, 394 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: it's published Monday through Saturday in the UK and it's 395 00:24:55,480 --> 00:25:00,720 Speaker 1: been doing that since November two of n Can we 396 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,000 Speaker 1: just take a quick second to have tabloid it seems 397 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 1: like always a term of derision, like a term implying 398 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: fake news or some kind of sensationalized um flim flammery. 399 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,680 Speaker 1: Is that how you guys see it? Well, it's definitely 400 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: the motivation there is to sell more papers. The motivation 401 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:23,439 Speaker 1: in any paper is to sell more papers, right, But 402 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:29,480 Speaker 1: in this case, the let's say, the the journalistic integrity 403 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 1: maybe isn't as important. And this is tough to even 404 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 1: say about anything like this because I've never worked at 405 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: the Daily Star. I don't know what the bosses there 406 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: say during they're all hands meetings. They maybe they're telling 407 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: the gods honest truth and they're like, why haven't we 408 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: been killed? Why don't people believe us? Bat Boy is 409 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: out there? So it is bat boy type stuff. Well, 410 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: there are different grade gradation, say of tabloid. Yeah, technically 411 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,160 Speaker 1: a tabloid, well, it used to not be a derogatory term. 412 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: It's a format of a newspaper that's not as large 413 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:08,359 Speaker 1: and is about half the size of a standard newspaper, 414 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 1: and it has more popular reporting. You're going to see 415 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:15,199 Speaker 1: more stuff about celebrity paparazzi type stuff and you know, 416 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: speculating about who's cheating on who bread and circuses. Yeah, 417 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,000 Speaker 1: absolutely and in some case, in a lot of cases 418 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: here in the States, at least, when you go to 419 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:29,000 Speaker 1: the grocery store, you will typically see the tabloids oriented 420 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,359 Speaker 1: towards celebrities at the check outline. But there used to 421 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: be back in the day. Really cool. When it's like 422 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: Weekly World Meet, that's my favorite. You don't see that anymore. No, 423 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it. We should. We should find out. 424 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,640 Speaker 1: We should find out and see if we can get 425 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: our bosses to give us a subscription to it. Would 426 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: you guys be proud subscribers with me to the weekly 427 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:56,600 Speaker 1: World News. I don't want it delivered at my house. 428 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 1: It's still in circulation. It's circulation is one point two million. 429 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: I think we partner with them and make a new 430 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: show guys where it's just reading the paper. That's it. 431 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 1: We should write for them. That's a great idea. We 432 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,680 Speaker 1: should all get pseudonyms and right for them. Buzz Rendezvous 433 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 1: is unfortunately taken not to get too far off track. 434 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:20,200 Speaker 1: What's kind of interesting. I'm looking at their site. It 435 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: seems like they're a little more just into covering weird 436 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: natural phenomenon and a lot of these stories that I'm 437 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: seeing on the front page are not never mind got 438 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: to one six inch alien and Gwyneth Paltrow buys the 439 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:36,120 Speaker 1: Weinstein Company? Yeah wait did she? And now I don't 440 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: think so? Fascinating stuff, right, So tabloids nowadays have uh 441 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:47,920 Speaker 1: an aura of unreliability. It's that's something that we all 442 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 1: associate with the term tabloid, and the etymology of that 443 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: how it evolved is maybe a story for another time. 444 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 1: But in addition to being a tabloid, the Daily Star 445 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 1: is the only original source that reported this, and the 446 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:07,159 Speaker 1: other outfits we found that we're reporting it ultimately are 447 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: going back to, at least in this case, back to 448 00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 1: this Daily Star story. And Matt, you brought up a 449 00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,919 Speaker 1: fantastic point that we can't gloss over, which is that 450 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: this is one iteration of a thing that's come up 451 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: again and again and again since the first uh first 452 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:30,080 Speaker 1: days of UH space varying civilization. Oh yeah, immediately after 453 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: those astronauts landed, probably even before that, there were questions 454 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: about what did they actually see? Yeah, and they have been. 455 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: Another thing that's different with this case is that people 456 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 1: are easier to reach now. So various news outlets from 457 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: the independent to Australia's. The Pedestrian reached out to buzz 458 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Aldrin directly and said, hey, did you really say this? 459 00:28:56,720 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: Do you believe this happened? Aldrin's folks people responded to 460 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: the to the Australian outfit we mentioned earlier to the Pedestrian, 461 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: and they categorically denied the story and took it a 462 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,800 Speaker 1: step further. They called it unfounded and bogus, and then 463 00:29:14,840 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: they added, we don't know where it came from. They 464 00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: had never heard of the Bioacoustics Institute, they had never 465 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: heard of this reporting. And so the official stances, no way, 466 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: what is that? And we can take it a step further. 467 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: Buzz Aldrin himself was asked about not specifically the study, 468 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: but unidentified aliens and spacecraft in a reddit a m A, 469 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: which is a h An acronym for ask me anything. Right. 470 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:48,200 Speaker 1: So we have a long quote from him here, and 471 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: we can probably just split it up between the three 472 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 1: of us are or paraphrase a little, but he says, 473 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,960 Speaker 1: on Apollo eleven and route to the Moon, I observed 474 00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: a light out the window that appeared to be moving 475 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: alongside it. There were many explanations of what it could 476 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,080 Speaker 1: be other than spacecraft from another country or another world. 477 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: It was either the rocket we had separated from or 478 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: the four panels that moved away when we extracted the 479 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: lander from the rocket and we were nose two nose 480 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,200 Speaker 1: with the two spacecraft, so in the close vicinity, moving 481 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: away were four panels, and I feel absolutely convinced that 482 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: we were looking at the sun reflected off of one 483 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: of those panels, which one I don't know, So technically 484 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: the definition could be unidentified, but we well understood exactly 485 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 1: what it was. So are we are we seeing a 486 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: sort of misinterpretation of the idea of a UFO, like 487 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 1: in the parlance of NASSA and astronaut day to day operations, 488 00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: that could mean many different things, right, Yeah, that's that's 489 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:50,760 Speaker 1: the part of it. He uh. He goes on and 490 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: says that he was I guess taken out of context 491 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: or his statements were taken out of context, and it 492 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,480 Speaker 1: goes further. Yeah, yeah, series what he says. He goes 493 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 1: we well understood exactly what that was, and when we returned, 494 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,239 Speaker 1: we debriefed and explained exactly what we had observed, and 495 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 1: I felt that this had been distributed to the outside 496 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:12,840 Speaker 1: world the outside audience, and apparently it wasn't and so 497 00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 1: many years later, so this was taken out of context. Basically, 498 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: so many years later I had the time in an 499 00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:21,280 Speaker 1: interview to disclose these observations on another country's television network, 500 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: and the UFO people in the United States were very, 501 00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: very very angry with me um that I had not 502 00:31:27,640 --> 00:31:32,040 Speaker 1: given them this information. It was not an alien. And 503 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 1: he continues saying, extraordinary observations require extraordinary evidence. That's what 504 00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: Carl Sagan said. There may be aliens in our Milky 505 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: Way galaxy, and there are billions of other galaxies. The 506 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: probability is almost certain that there is life somewhere in space. 507 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: It was not that remarkable, that special, that unusual that 508 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 1: life here on Earth evolved gradually slowly to where we 509 00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,840 Speaker 1: are today. But the distances involved in where some evidence 510 00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: of life maybe they may be hundreds of light years away. 511 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: That's a great point. That's like the whole Fermi paradox 512 00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: thing that we've discussed on the show numerous times. So 513 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: we can't get there, that's what he's saying. They probably 514 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:13,680 Speaker 1: can't get to us. The odds are so low. So 515 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: he's saying aliens do exist. It's very likely that they 516 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,719 Speaker 1: do existence highly unlikely that we'll run into them. So 517 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: he himself is denying that he saw an alien and 518 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:30,200 Speaker 1: claiming instead it was a UFO. And to your point, Noll, 519 00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: that just means it didn't know exactly what it was. 520 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: It could have been a million other things that were 521 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,320 Speaker 1: not extraterrestrial in origin. So in this case, it seems 522 00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: that the Aldrin story may be largely discredited. We did mention, 523 00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: of course, Cooper Mitchell pass passed away, so they had 524 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 1: to be using prerecorded audio. They should have mentioned that. 525 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: But there's something else here. What if Aldrin was not 526 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 1: the only astronaut to see strange things in the stars. 527 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 1: We know that during the Gemini four mission, pilot Jim 528 00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 1: mcdiviott had spotted an object he described as a white 529 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: cylindrical shape with a white pole sticking out of one 530 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 1: corner of it. He took a couple of photos of 531 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,720 Speaker 1: it and he thinks it was unknown but man made debris, 532 00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: because near Earth orbit is just full of space junk, right, 533 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:26,320 Speaker 1: But other people were saying maybe it's the second stage 534 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:32,440 Speaker 1: of a Titan two used in space exploration. And then 535 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,280 Speaker 1: in two thousand and five and astronaut named Leroy Chow 536 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 1: reported seeing lights in a line almost like an upside 537 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,520 Speaker 1: down check mark. He later identified these as being from 538 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: fishing boats hundreds of miles below. So every a lot 539 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,200 Speaker 1: of the astronauts you see unexplained stuff have later come 540 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: back and said, here is the mundane explanation? Or is 541 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,479 Speaker 1: that because the men in black them? Or is that 542 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,239 Speaker 1: because someone got to them, you know, off the When 543 00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: we hear that kind of story, the crazy thing about 544 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: about a group of people keeping another group of people 545 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: quiet and intimidated, it becomes it's difficult to believe in 546 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: most cases because it's usually a matter of keeping hundreds 547 00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 1: of thousands of people quiet. But the world is it 548 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 1: lousy with astronauts? There aren't that many, correct, especially that 549 00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: many that have been that far out. That's true. Actually, 550 00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: there was only a very small handful of astronats who 551 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: have been there far out. Have you met one? Do 552 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,839 Speaker 1: you trust them? Maybe that's a that's an inside joke 553 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: for us from a previous video where I think we 554 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: ended it with have you ever met an astronaut? But 555 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: I believe we have. I believe between the three of 556 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: us we have man astronauts pilots, though, pilots are a 557 00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: different story. And there was a story that recently came 558 00:34:54,080 --> 00:35:01,040 Speaker 1: out in UH February of two airline pilots spotted a 559 00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:05,840 Speaker 1: mysterious reflective of object hovering about forty feet or twelve 560 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: thousand meters for everybody outside of Namibia, the United States, 561 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:14,080 Speaker 1: and Myanmar over Arizona, and the f a A, the 562 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: Federal Aviation Ministration is stumped because these were pilots in 563 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 1: two different planes, so their perspective was different. UH. The 564 00:35:23,520 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: Phoenix New Times released in f A a a recording of this. 565 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: The sighting was three thirty in the afternoon on February 566 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: over the desert near Phoenix, and no one knows what 567 00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: it was. You can be a great article on Live 568 00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,560 Speaker 1: Science about this. Yeah, and if you if you call 569 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: back to our Jeremy Corbell episodes. We've discussed several of these, 570 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: especially the last one we did. We've talked about actual 571 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,800 Speaker 1: Navy pilot pilots that have seen UFOs in the recent past. 572 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 1: So it does occur on land, or at least just 573 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:59,400 Speaker 1: above land quite frequently, these sightings. Yeah, and we have 574 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:02,359 Speaker 1: to be fair because just if one just because one 575 00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 1: story turns out not to have sand to it doesn't 576 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,360 Speaker 1: mean that other stories are not true. And the last 577 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 1: note we can leave you with here that that will 578 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,960 Speaker 1: perhaps send you off on a rabbit hole of your own, 579 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: is the following. In an interview with the BBC, head 580 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:24,080 Speaker 1: of UK Air Traffic Control, Richard Deacon claimed, we see 581 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: a UFO a month, one unidentified flying object per month consistently. 582 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: But that could just be an unidentified plane that isn't 583 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: responding to their calls, could be a freaky looking bird man. Yeah, 584 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 1: it could be a lot of things or classified aircraft. 585 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: That's the one I'm most excited about. But let us 586 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: know what UFO incidents you think hold the most sand, 587 00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,800 Speaker 1: have the most grit, the most credibility, right? Which ones 588 00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,399 Speaker 1: haven't been proven to be? What's the old a weather balloon? Right? 589 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:06,040 Speaker 1: We would love to hear from you. And you know 590 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: it's no secret that space is weird. Along with the 591 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 1: deepest abyssial planes of the ocean, space is one of 592 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: the least understood environments that humans have ever experienced. And 593 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:19,480 Speaker 1: there's still tons and tons of unidentified objects being spotted 594 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:24,839 Speaker 1: in the air, under the water. We don't we don't 595 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,239 Speaker 1: know how to explain them. All, it's pretty exciting time 596 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,360 Speaker 1: to be alive. When you think about it, it really is. 597 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 1: I'm excited, and I think we would be good astronauts. 598 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:36,919 Speaker 1: Not me in my back, I don't think I could. 599 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,239 Speaker 1: I think you'd be a great astronaut. Maybe zero. You 600 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,120 Speaker 1: could wear one of those like ups guy back brace things. 601 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,359 Speaker 1: Surely they can build that into the space soon. Man, 602 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 1: that can be taken into consideration. All right, all right, 603 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: I'll look into it. Then we should try out. Do 604 00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: they have open on open casting calls auditions? I think 605 00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: it's the next uh next iteration of America's Got Talent, 606 00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,600 Speaker 1: It's NASA's Got talent. This is one of the episodes 607 00:38:00,600 --> 00:38:03,439 Speaker 1: about but like, how do you guys feel? Obviously there's 608 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: a lot of nostalgia wrapped up in NASA. Everything we're 609 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:09,719 Speaker 1: talking about was this kind of stuff that happened relatively 610 00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:13,400 Speaker 1: in our lifetime. And you guys are obviously hugely into 611 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,319 Speaker 1: the idea of being an astronaut. How do you feel 612 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 1: about the whole like privatization of of space travel and 613 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,640 Speaker 1: exploration and maybe some of the emphasis moving away from 614 00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,880 Speaker 1: the way it used to be done. Are we going 615 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:29,640 Speaker 1: to see more guys like old buzz Aldrin. Yeah, so 616 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 1: there's a there's a fascinating and complicated issue here, which 617 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:42,920 Speaker 1: is the following. A lot of successful colonization in human 618 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:49,680 Speaker 1: history was essentially privatized. Dutch East India Company, horrific company, 619 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:54,320 Speaker 1: very very bad, did terrible things. But without that push 620 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:59,880 Speaker 1: towards privatization, it would not, you know, the path of 621 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:04,600 Speaker 1: history would have been much different, and those expansionist forces 622 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: probably wouldn't have been able to reach the places they 623 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: reached and maintained the whole they maintained for so long. 624 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: So privatization is the next. Also, I believe we're moving 625 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: away from states towards corporations. So it not inherently bad, 626 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: in fact, many good things about it, but potentially potential 627 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 1: for abuse, potential for terrible, terrible things to happen. Yeah, 628 00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:30,120 Speaker 1: but that could you know, you could say the same 629 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: about a state run operation. And a lot of a 630 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: lot of the big players that will be in the 631 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: future space race are going to be state and private partnerships, 632 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, like that it may be supported with funding 633 00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 1: from the state, but it's owned by a private entity. Yeah, 634 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Doesn't elon Musk strike you 635 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,000 Speaker 1: guys kind of a bond villain figure. He he worries 636 00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:56,600 Speaker 1: me he's done some pretty amazing thing. I know he has. 637 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: I'm mainly joking, but as part of me that thinks 638 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:01,640 Speaker 1: he's going to build the sonic death ray on the 639 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:05,040 Speaker 1: moon and blow up all the poor people on the Earth. Yeah, 640 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:07,400 Speaker 1: I don't. I don't get I don't get that from him. 641 00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 1: I don't get it from him, and I get that 642 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,960 Speaker 1: from several people amongst his peers, but not him. I 643 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,759 Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think he's a blow up the 644 00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,800 Speaker 1: poor kind of person. But I do think he would 645 00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 1: absolutely institute uh an autocratic technocracy on Mars, similar to 646 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: what our guy Marshall brain too. Maybe he and Marshall 647 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,160 Speaker 1: should get together and get that thing go and get 648 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: Google's new algorithms up there work with them. Those guys 649 00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: are brilliant. I can't imagine what they would if we 650 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:45,399 Speaker 1: put them in a room and just gave them an 651 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: hour to talk. They well know, if we put them 652 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,000 Speaker 1: in a cabin for a weekend, they would come out 653 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,880 Speaker 1: with some kind of new, weird technology. I don't. I 654 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:56,920 Speaker 1: don't know if I would understand it. I hope it's 655 00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,560 Speaker 1: not a death ray. I hope not. But yeah, uh, 656 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 1: that's a I think that we're going to see something 657 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 1: very much like the Dutch East India Company. I can 658 00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: imagine leading the charge to space exploration and we have 659 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: to as a species, we have to go to space. Yeah, 660 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 1: it'll be like Cerebus from the Mass Effect Universe, the Giant. 661 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: They're a giant private company that basically ended up being 662 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,400 Speaker 1: the most powerful thing that existed and the most powerful 663 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,520 Speaker 1: entity that existed. And of course there's another argument, which 664 00:41:27,600 --> 00:41:30,799 Speaker 1: is maybe we should just fix the Earth we have 665 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,959 Speaker 1: before we go try to make make another one. How's 666 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,800 Speaker 1: that going? I mean, you know, ups and downs, mixed results. 667 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 1: Humanity is still here. The pendulum swings. The pendulum swings 668 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,719 Speaker 1: like Earth is so resilient it doesn't matter to Earth 669 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 1: if human beings are gone, there will just be some 670 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:54,399 Speaker 1: some new iteration that will take our place. But you know, collectively, 671 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: it's kind of cool for us to be here. Well, 672 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,200 Speaker 1: I for one, I'm excited to get to Mars because 673 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:02,280 Speaker 1: there's something there that we can explore that buzz Aldrin 674 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:07,760 Speaker 1: himself has discussed before. Besides this whole thing about seeing 675 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: aliens or spacecraft or something. While he was going to 676 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 1: the Moon and orbiting. He also has mentioned a very 677 00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,880 Speaker 1: specific phenomena or an object that exists on one of 678 00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,040 Speaker 1: mars moons, Phobos. It's a monolith. He's talked about it 679 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: live on air. We should go boldly where man has 680 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 1: not gone before. Fly by the comets, visit asteroids, visit 681 00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: the moon of Mars. There's a monolith. They're a very 682 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,680 Speaker 1: unusual structure on this little potato shaped object that that 683 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 1: goes around Mars once in seven hours. When people find 684 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:47,879 Speaker 1: out about that, they're going to say, who put that there? 685 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: Who put that there? Well, uh, the universe put it there, 686 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: if you choose God put it there. There's also a 687 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 1: monolith on Mars that has been observed. And these are 688 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,200 Speaker 1: two things that I think we should really really explore. 689 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 1: Here's the thing. They're probably natural, you know, if you 690 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: we of comes razor it, they're probably natural rock formations. However, 691 00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,560 Speaker 1: that there are two, one on both the planet and 692 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: the moon, one of the moons of the planet is 693 00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,640 Speaker 1: fascinating to me and I think we should explore it. 694 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 1: And I'm pretty sure buzz Aldren believed we should as well. Absolutely, Look, 695 00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,520 Speaker 1: that's fascinating to me that he he himself being known 696 00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: for someone of being somewhat of his skeptic, would be 697 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: so interested in this idea. And you know, I wanted 698 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:39,440 Speaker 1: to ask this question. I can't remember if we asked 699 00:43:39,480 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: it before. If offered, would you take a one way 700 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: ticket to live on Mars? That's tough, man, but you know, 701 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,839 Speaker 1: with like a cool job. And let's say you knew 702 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,920 Speaker 1: you wouldn't die on the way. You could give me 703 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:57,600 Speaker 1: some assurances if it had been done, I might do it. 704 00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: I would totally do it. I would all so I 705 00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,480 Speaker 1: would be the one who would say, well, we don't 706 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 1: have to stop at Mars. You know, I'll just I'll 707 00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 1: keep going if we if you have snacks. Have you 708 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 1: guys seen the new Lost in Space reboot? Yeah? Not 709 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:13,600 Speaker 1: a fan? Not a fan, I'm not. I haven't really 710 00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,239 Speaker 1: gotten that deep into The only reason I mentioned is 711 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,120 Speaker 1: because there's a whole thing in that show where they 712 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: I'll have to take a test like aptitude tests in 713 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:23,200 Speaker 1: order to become the new colonizers of space or the 714 00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:26,160 Speaker 1: new planet that they're trying to find because Earth is 715 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,480 Speaker 1: not doing so well. So what do you think of 716 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 1: unidentified flying objects? Are they all mundane? Is there's something 717 00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 1: further at play. Have astronauts actually seen these and later 718 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,480 Speaker 1: denied them, or have they been misquoted and mischaracterized in 719 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,400 Speaker 1: the media on the never ending hunt for more clicks. 720 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:50,200 Speaker 1: We want to know your opinions. Let us know what 721 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,680 Speaker 1: you think. You can find us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. 722 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: You can also join our community page and meet your 723 00:44:56,440 --> 00:45:00,600 Speaker 1: fellow conspiracy realist on Here's where it gets crazy on Facebook, 724 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,960 Speaker 1: and you can call us. You can actually call us 725 00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:05,919 Speaker 1: and leave a message and it might get on the show. 726 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: Here's the number. Write it down somewhere one eight three 727 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: three s T d w y T k oh. And 728 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:16,000 Speaker 1: by the way, just before we end, guys buzz Aldrin 729 00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,759 Speaker 1: talking about those monoliths. That was on c SPAN and 730 00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,280 Speaker 1: the YouTube of c SPAN published the video on July 731 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 1: two nine, so it must have been around that time. Well, 732 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: if you want to slip something past the entire public, 733 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: put it on c SPAN. Yes. And if you want 734 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,359 Speaker 1: to slip a message to us, uh, and you're not 735 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: too wild about social media or having your voice recorded, 736 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,200 Speaker 1: we understand you can email us directly. 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