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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 2: Emma is on the phone today for our first day

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Speaker 2: follow up, and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Kyle.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see

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Speaker 2: if you tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe

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Speaker 2: get her another date. But first, Emma, how long has

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Speaker 2: it been since you heard from Kyle.

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Speaker 3: Gosh?

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Speaker 4: I want to say it's been about like three weeks,

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Speaker 4: three or four weeks?

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Speaker 5: Oh, and been long? Why do you want to get

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Speaker 5: a hold of him?

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Speaker 4: Okay, I mean, if I can be totally honest, it's

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Speaker 4: because I know it's kind of cheasy to say because

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Speaker 4: it was just one date, but I really felt like

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Speaker 4: there was a connection, Like I really feel like there

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean the date went so well, and you know,

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Speaker 4: we did like a whole escape room thing, which.

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Speaker 5: I thought would be pretty fun fun.

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Speaker 4: Ye yeah, I mean I love solving puzzles, and you know,

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Speaker 4: it seemed like we were both really working well together.

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Speaker 1: You know, I was kind of the brains.

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Speaker 4: He was kind of like the muscle moving stuff around,

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Speaker 4: helping us, you know, tall clues, and it just felt like,

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Speaker 4: I don't know, it almost didn't even feel like it

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Speaker 4: was a first date. We you know, even let so

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Speaker 4: much time pass that it was like past dinner time

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Speaker 4: to like stop and get somebody to eat. It was

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Speaker 4: so casual. I am. I'm very much a person who

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Speaker 4: kind of overthinks on the first date, and I get

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Speaker 4: very nervous usually, but I didn't feel anything like that

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Speaker 4: with Kyle. I feel like he was also kind of

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Speaker 4: feeling the vibe too, and the way he was looking

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Speaker 4: at me and talking to me and telling me things. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just I felt so safe and comfortable.

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Speaker 1: And it's always so hard to know that you feel

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Speaker 1: that way, and it's kind of like it's impossible that

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Speaker 1: the other person didn't feel something right, Like don't you

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Speaker 1: always feel that way exactly? Yeah, what could have been

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Speaker 1: the reason why he's disappeared now?

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Speaker 5: If it was that intense.

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Speaker 4: I've really been trying to pin this down, and I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'm not totally sure, but the only thing that I

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Speaker 4: get a little bit into the games, like I do

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Speaker 4: get competitive to a certain point, but I did tell

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Speaker 4: him this in advance, and I tried to kind of

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Speaker 4: just brush it off in more of like a flirtatious way,

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Speaker 4: Like there was one puzzle that he just wasn't getting,

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Speaker 4: Like it was, you know, like a word clue thing,

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Speaker 4: and it was so obvious to me, and he just

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Speaker 4: was like, well, you're lucky. You're so pretty, you know, Like, well, okay,

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Speaker 4: I didn't say that, but and it's my own fault,

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Speaker 4: like I know, I probably could have done better out that,

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Speaker 4: but that's the only thing that I can think of.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Well, how did it end with him?

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Speaker 4: I mean, I thought it ended so well. We didn't

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Speaker 4: like fully confirm going on a second day, but we

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Speaker 4: both said the whole like, oh, you know, like I

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Speaker 4: had a great time. I'd like to do it again sometime.

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Speaker 4: And we both said that at the end, and we

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Speaker 4: And then I tried again, you know, a couple of

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Speaker 4: days later, and then nothing. And I did try again,

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Speaker 4: you know a few more times, but I haven't.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say.

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Speaker 6: If there's one thing I normally hear on all these

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Speaker 6: it's that after every single time they go on a

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Speaker 6: first day they everyone says like, oh, mars, like we

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Speaker 6: should this again.

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Speaker 5: Some time, or like, yeah, that's polite.

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Speaker 6: I think it's honestly just a polite thing people say,

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Speaker 5: Knowing that, I was like, huh, so, I don't know.

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Speaker 6: It sucks because you, like you thought it was a

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Speaker 6: same time, he could just be doing it to be polite.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's heartbreaking, that's sad.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 5: That's like.

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Speaker 2: Emma is on the phone and she's getting ghosted by Kyle.

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Speaker 2: So we're about to call him and see if he'll

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Speaker 2: tell us why he's ghosting her and maybe get her

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Speaker 2: another date. But first, Emma, why don't you break down

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Speaker 2: your date for us a war time.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Kyle and I went out a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 4: We had a great first date.

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Speaker 7: We did an.

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Speaker 4: Escape room, we had you know, dinner afterwards. It felt

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Speaker 4: we were laughing, we were having fun, and we both

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Speaker 4: But then I never heard back from him.

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Speaker 1: All right, well you did kind of imply that he

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Speaker 5: So yeah, there was that. All right, Well, are you

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Speaker 5: ready for us to see if we can figure it out?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: I'm ready.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Hey it's.

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Speaker 8: Kyle, Kyle.

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Speaker 5: How are you. This is a radio show. It's called

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Speaker 5: The Jubil Show. Hi, Kyle. My name is Nina, Hi,

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Speaker 5: and I'm Victoria and I'm Jebel.

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Speaker 3: How's it going, Hey, guys, it's going, it's going.

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Speaker 8: It's going pretty good.

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Speaker 3: How's it going?

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Speaker 8: Guy?

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Speaker 5: Good for asking? Have you ever listened to the show before?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Well, we do a segment on the show called the

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Speaker 2: First eight follow Up, So whear if you go out

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Speaker 2: on a date with somebody and you ghost them, they

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Speaker 2: can email us to call you and figure out why

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Speaker 2: you're ghosting them. So we got an email about you

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Speaker 2: from somebody, Kyle, that's why we're calling.

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Speaker 7: Uh huh, Yeah, yeah, for sure. I think I think

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Speaker 7: I've been familiar with it.

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Speaker 8: Let me guess he's been.

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Speaker 7: Texting me a ton no surprises on.

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Speaker 2: This is it, Emma, Yes, it is Emma. Do you

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Speaker 2: have time to tell us why your ghosts her?

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Speaker 8: Uh? Yeah, I guess.

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Speaker 7: Look, I mean, look, I mean I don't know if

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Speaker 7: I mean, the day was really fun. I thought it was.

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Speaker 7: I thought it was a good time. I mean she

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Speaker 7: I'm just kind of a I don't know, I'm bumm,

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Speaker 7: because I mean I was pretty attracted to her. I

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Speaker 7: she's like a she's a pretty specific kind of girl,

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Speaker 7: and it just kind of rubs me the wrong.

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Speaker 3: Way sort of right.

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Speaker 8: So after our date, she she sends me, she sends me.

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Speaker 7: A Venmo request for half of our uber rides. People

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Speaker 7: that send like Venmo requests without like a heads up,

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Speaker 7: that's like a different kind of passive aggressive. And this

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Speaker 7: is where an uber ride that was like twenty five bucks.

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Speaker 7: So like I paid it and I just kind of

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Speaker 4: I don't know, Wait, wait a minute, sorry, did that's

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Speaker 4: the reason why you ghosted me?

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Speaker 5: Hey, Kyle. That's she's on the phone and wants to

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Speaker 5: talk to you.

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Speaker 4: By the way, Yeah, to jump in, like it was

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Speaker 4: your you're you ghosted me over twelve dollars and fifty cents?

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Speaker 5: Did you send them?

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Speaker 4: I mean I did.

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Speaker 5: It's like, ye, I didn't.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, I just I didn't even make it. I don't

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Speaker 7: it just it's just it's felt kind of weird, dude,

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Speaker 7: I don't know, but you made.

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Speaker 4: It a big thing like it's it was a twenty

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Speaker 4: a first date. I feel like that's just a very

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Speaker 1: Did you guys split everything else on the date?

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Speaker 5: Yeah? My thing is this is my thing?

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Speaker 8: Though?

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Speaker 7: Is that so to me this has like nothing to

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Speaker 7: this splitting the money, the fees, the twenty five dollars,

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Speaker 7: But I don't even care about that.

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Speaker 8: To me is like this is a communication thing.

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Speaker 7: Do you kind of know what I mean by that?

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Speaker 7: So it's like we hadn't even had our first post

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Speaker 7: date conversation before you're like sending me these Venmo requests

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Speaker 7: felt like, I don't know that could be like our future, right,

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Speaker 7: it's just passive aggressive comments, actions and stuff like that.

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Speaker 7: I really, I just I can't really handle that. I'm

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Speaker 6: So would you have rather her text you and be like, hey,

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Speaker 6: do you mind if I send you a Venmo request

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Speaker 5: Like would that have solved the issue for you?

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Speaker 7: I don't know, because like I would have rather heard.

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 4: You just said that the money. You just said the

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Speaker 4: money wasn't an issue, but now you're saying it is

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Speaker 4: an issue. Because I mean, I hate like everything all

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Speaker 4: I did was sent a request. I didn't demand it

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Speaker 4: from you. I was and you could have just texted

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Speaker 4: me and said, hey, what's up with the venmo request?

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Speaker 4: You didn't respond to me at all? How is that

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Speaker 4: an adult mature thing?

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Speaker 3: I mean, even if you would have demanded.

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Speaker 8: It from me, that would have been more straightforward communications.

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Speaker 8: So I feel like I would have preferred that even

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Speaker 8: over like, I just don't like the passive aggressive venmo thing, dude,

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Speaker 8: like this is it's like a type of person that

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Speaker 8: communicates and operates through the venmo transactions like that, And

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Speaker 8: it's not me.

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Speaker 7: I'm just not I'm not into it.

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Speaker 3: It was a turn off em But do.

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Speaker 1: You think you're a passive aggressive person in general?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm definitely not. I don't know what kind

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Speaker 4: of specific person you're like looking for in terms of

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Speaker 4: communicated that that was an issue, Like you're boasting about

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Speaker 4: being a mature adult and communication is important to you.

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Speaker 4: But you did the exact opposite of what you just said.

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Speaker 4: So I'm looking for somebody who can actually follow through

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Speaker 7: I needed to send it them overquest like to someone

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Speaker 7: after a date, all out of the moop.

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Speaker 8: I just think it's kind of weird in this economy.

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Speaker 7: How is that weird, if you're, if you're if you

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Speaker 7: need the money or whatever.

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Speaker 8: I guess I get that or whatever, but it's for me.

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Speaker 7: It's a turn off.

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Speaker 8: I'm sorry about it.

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Speaker 3: It just is what it is.

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Speaker 6: You said that you would have rather bring it up later,

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Speaker 6: but I feel like it'd been more awkward if she

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Speaker 6: would have brought it up later and randomly.

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Speaker 7: Well, okay, how about we try this right?

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Speaker 8: Like, why don't you tell me how much your time

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Speaker 8: was worth for the date and I'll reimburse you for it?

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Speaker 3: Wow?

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Speaker 8: No, you know I don't enough money, you know.

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Speaker 4: I just I mean, if you want to pay me, like,

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Speaker 4: you know, give me one hundred and fifty bucks. But

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Speaker 4: to be honest, I don't think you can even afford that.

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Speaker 7: Oh all right, I don't know if an you will

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Speaker 7: use three hundred right now just to show you I

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Speaker 7: can afford it.

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Speaker 2: What Hey, Kyle, would you like to go on another

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Speaker 2: date with Emma? We'll pay for it.

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Speaker 7: I'm thinking about it. I think I'm good. I think

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Speaker 7: we're good.

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Speaker 5: Emma.

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Speaker 2: You didn't get a second date, but hey, you got

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Speaker 2: three bus when my book

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Speaker 5: Jubile's First Day follow up