WEBVTT - Draft Show: Getting Stronger 0:00:03.160 --> 0:00:09.360 He is the Dallascowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.200 room for insider news and draft analysis from deep within 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.880 the confines of Cowboys headquarters at the Star and for School. 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:26.840 Today is Tuesday, January twenty third, and we are officially 0:00:27.440 --> 0:00:31.520 ninety three days away from the NFL Draft in Detroit, Michigan. 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.199 Welcome in to the Draft Show presented by Miller. Like 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:37.040 we've got Nick Harris, Brian brought us Ayisha Morrison. 0:00:37.320 --> 0:00:39.800 I'm Kyle Yeoman's Chris Beam in the back as we 0:00:39.880 --> 0:00:42.320 break it down for you today, We've got plenty of 0:00:43.000 --> 0:00:46.480 draft news, Cowboys news, and then coming up very very soon, 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.879 we're gonna be talking about Senior Bowl. 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:51.000 Yes, sir, Shrine Bowl, yes, sir. 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:53.479 Got some good things coming on the horizon here for 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:57.600 the draft, but we've got got some early things to 0:00:57.640 --> 0:01:00.720 talk about. Brian, it feels like every time the Cowboys 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:04.040 get to this time of the year and Cowboys fans 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:04.600 are still. 0:01:04.400 --> 0:01:05.640 Watching NFL playoffs. 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:08.120 Yeah, they're looking at these teams that are having success, 0:01:08.680 --> 0:01:10.960 that are moving on and they're saying. 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:12.640 How can we build that similar direction? 0:01:12.680 --> 0:01:15.280 So I ask you the question, did you learn anything 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:17.400 from the divisional round weekend? And these teams that are 0:01:17.400 --> 0:01:19.360 going to play for conference championships this week. 0:01:19.440 --> 0:01:21.200 Yeah, the things that we like to talk about in 0:01:21.200 --> 0:01:24.160 player personnel evaluations and how to build your team is 0:01:24.200 --> 0:01:26.160 talking about the middle of your team, the middle of 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:29.280 your say, the middle of your defense. Continue to look 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:33.199 at what the San Francisco forty nine ers do at linebacker. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:36.840 Continue to look at how teams handle the middle of 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:39.640 the field. You look at what Dallas didn't handle the 0:01:39.680 --> 0:01:42.000 middle of the field well in their playoff matchup against 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.759 Green Bay Packers. Oh yeah, really, yeah, statistically, you're right. 0:01:46.080 --> 0:01:49.280 The look at what San Francisco did against green Bay. 0:01:49.320 --> 0:01:52.240 Everything outside the numbers was fine for the Green Bay Packers. 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.000 Everything up the middle of that defense was a problem 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.600 for that team. So to me, when we look at okay, 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.320 we all know about the line situation, we kind of 0:02:01.400 --> 0:02:04.760 understand a little bit about the safeties in what's going 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:05.240 on here. 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.000 The tackles are another thing. 0:02:07.080 --> 0:02:10.920 But I've always it just reinforced to me that if 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:14.520 you're not solid and dependable up the middle of your defense, 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:18.120 you're going to have problems in these games. And the 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:20.800 San Francisco forty nine Ers are the best example of that. 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:21.760 To me. Yeah. 0:02:21.760 --> 0:02:24.200 You can look at the Baltimore Ravens too, what they've 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:25.600 been able to do on the defensive side of the 0:02:25.600 --> 0:02:28.400 ball and that linebacking corp that they have, and it's strong. 0:02:28.480 --> 0:02:30.119 It's strong. You look at the teams that are still 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.440 playing and what they kind of have in common, it's 0:02:32.480 --> 0:02:34.840 things that the Cowboys don't have. It's very clear that 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:35.680 it needs to be addressed. 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.240 It's run game, it's interior defensive line, it's linebackers. I mean, 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.160 it's a little bit of everything. I issue whenever you 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.920 look at the teams that are winning these games and 0:02:44.960 --> 0:02:45.959 then the style that they're. 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:47.640 Winning it too, because they can win in different ways, 0:02:48.040 --> 0:02:48.600 that's part of it. 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:50.600 And then Cowboys can win in different ways too, Let's 0:02:50.600 --> 0:02:53.640 not get it twisted. But whenever it comes to that way, 0:02:53.680 --> 0:02:56.720 specifically that physical ground game and controlling the trenches, you 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:57.320 just don't have that. 0:02:57.440 --> 0:02:59.240 Oh yeah, and one thing that stands out to me, 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:00.880 and that stood out to me when you talk about 0:03:00.880 --> 0:03:03.399 all those teams, they're good at twelve personnel. 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:05.960 Yeah, because it counters. 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:07.800 A lot of what teams like to do this defensively, 0:03:07.919 --> 0:03:09.919 especially when you talk about the nickel and how teams 0:03:10.000 --> 0:03:13.560 use it, and so to me, the lack of Cowboys ran. 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.399 I don't know how much twelve personnel they ran this year. 0:03:16.440 --> 0:03:18.440 They had a lot of success in eleven, which was 0:03:18.520 --> 0:03:20.280 kind of to me the opposite of last year. 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:22.560 They had more success than twelve personnel. 0:03:22.960 --> 0:03:25.040 I really think moving into next year, I want to 0:03:25.080 --> 0:03:27.600 see them be more stout there to counter some of 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.640 the things that teams do defensively and be able to 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:30.880 move the ball efficiently. 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.400 Is that possible to revamp that entire physicality though in 0:03:35.440 --> 0:03:35.960 one draft? 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:37.960 We've been talking about this for two years with the 0:03:38.040 --> 0:03:40.360 Dallas Cowboys. To be honest with you guys, yeah. 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:42.520 I mean if we've all covered this team long enough 0:03:42.520 --> 0:03:45.800 and understand it that, you know, it was two years 0:03:45.800 --> 0:03:48.520 ago that the draft was all about going out and 0:03:48.520 --> 0:03:50.920 getting tougher guys. They stood up on the podium there 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.240 and told us about they needed to be tougher, they 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.440 needed to be more physical. We're still talking about it here, 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.520 you know, and you kind of felt like that, you know, 0:03:59.560 --> 0:04:01.800 maybe lst year with the draft with you know, the 0:04:01.800 --> 0:04:04.400 first couple of picks, I was linking up with Mozzie Smith, 0:04:04.440 --> 0:04:07.480 the three hundred and twenty nine pound defensive tackle. I 0:04:07.520 --> 0:04:09.600 was thinking about a physical tight end at the point 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:12.839 of attack. You know, those things didn't work out for them. 0:04:13.040 --> 0:04:18.720 I think they're still chasing that physicality, you know, demeanor, 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:21.240 if you want to say, for their football team. 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:22.560 I have a question to that. 0:04:22.960 --> 0:04:25.560 When you think about the Cowboys roster, who are the 0:04:25.640 --> 0:04:28.039 gentlemen that you think about that are physical? 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:31.239 The first one I think of is Tyler Smith up front? 0:04:31.640 --> 0:04:34.719 Young in terms of like young guys that you're going 0:04:34.800 --> 0:04:37.400 to have for moving forward for a significant amount of time. 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:38.680 I think of Tyler Smith Nick. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:43.240 Yeah, I'm sitting here thinking Tyler Smith ceedee laman route 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.159 running this past year. He showed a lot more physicality 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.559 this past season. But like, if we're talking about guys 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:49.200 you would like to see on the defensive side of 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:51.400 the wall be a little bit more physical, like Donovan 0:04:51.440 --> 0:04:52.200 Wilson obviously. 0:04:52.320 --> 0:04:52.560 Yeah. 0:04:52.680 --> 0:04:55.080 Aside from that, it's it's tough to really you'd be reaching. 0:04:55.120 --> 0:04:56.360 Would you throw Osa in there? 0:04:58.200 --> 0:04:59.360 First eight games? Osa? 0:04:59.680 --> 0:05:01.279 See this is this is the thing that we have 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:02.080 to figure out too. 0:05:02.080 --> 0:05:03.960 And that's a great point you made, And to your point, 0:05:04.000 --> 0:05:05.599 I think it's Wilson, I mean to. 0:05:06.400 --> 0:05:11.200 Your question, I think is so smart. 0:05:11.279 --> 0:05:13.280 Yeah, I think if you said, who's the smartest player 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:14.839 you have on your defense, I would. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.040 Say And so my follow up question of that is, well, 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.600 the way that I processed it is the way besides 0:05:20.640 --> 0:05:22.479 Tyler on the offensive side of the ball, on the 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:25.039 defensive side of the ball, your physical guys. 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.160 Are your older guys, some of your older guys. That's 0:05:28.200 --> 0:05:28.680 a problem. 0:05:28.800 --> 0:05:30.000 That's that's a problem. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:33.840 Your young guys should be outlasting and being more of 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.880 that physical presence. And I think that that's something that 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.880 some of what you saw even in the playoffs is 0:05:37.920 --> 0:05:40.480 like you're looking for those young guys with fresh legs 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:42.600 to come out and give you something because those older 0:05:42.600 --> 0:05:45.159 guys are they're they've been working their tails off, So 0:05:45.200 --> 0:05:47.400 I'm looking that's another thing too. I think this also 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.200 plays back into the lack of contribution that you got 0:05:50.200 --> 0:05:54.320 from your draft class. Sure, and also to just that 0:05:54.880 --> 0:05:57.279 to your point, we've been talking about physicality for a while. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:05:59.960 It's just been some of these older gentlemen, these veterans, 0:06:00.160 --> 0:06:02.680 veteran gentlemen that are setting that zone. I was looking 0:06:02.720 --> 0:06:04.440 for some of the young guys to kind of match that, 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.400 or you bring in some guys to match that. 0:06:06.920 --> 0:06:12.240 I wonder where the disconnect is with Okay, just just 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.160 if you could summarize what do you think they were 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.560 looking for in this last draft class if you had to, 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:19.600 if you had to say in just a few words. 0:06:19.839 --> 0:06:23.479 You know, it's hard for me to say. I think 0:06:23.560 --> 0:06:26.080 you were trying to pigeonhole needs. I think at some. 0:06:26.080 --> 0:06:29.160 Point see that whatever they did in that regard of 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.960 the prep to build their board that way, they need 0:06:33.000 --> 0:06:35.920 not to go that direction, you know. And this this 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:38.279 team has done a really good job of drafting the 0:06:38.279 --> 0:06:40.320 best available player they really have. 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:41.360 When when you. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.039 Think they're going to take that defensive end from L. 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.000 S U when they really needed and they take C. 0:06:46.120 --> 0:06:46.600 D Lamb. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:50.120 You know what, I'm saying that to me, maybe they 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.560 need to go back and evaluate that. And maybe they 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:54.400 were trying to get tougher and it didn't work out. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:56.440 They didn't pick the tough guys like you say, I 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:58.960 issould maybe the young guys aren't stepping up like but 0:06:59.440 --> 0:07:02.920 I wonder what you guys thought about what you thought 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:03.960 their plan was. 0:07:04.839 --> 0:07:06.719 I wouldn't qualify this as far as the first two 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.960 picks that they made with Mazzie Smith and Luke scoon Maker, 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:10.800 but you look at what they drafted to look at 0:07:10.800 --> 0:07:12.480 it on paper, it looked like they were going for 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:14.720 positional flex. You look at what Tyler was able to 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.240 do in his first season moving from tackle to guard. Hey, 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:18.880 I like that. Let's look for some more guys that 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:19.760 could do some things like that. 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.200 That gets in trouble though, sometimes because I saw I 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:25.840 saw Tyrone Crawford, I saw him get just you know, 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.080 he went from being I thought a really good player too. 0:07:28.080 --> 0:07:31.080 They started moving him around too much. Is he an end? 0:07:31.320 --> 0:07:32.520 Is he a tackle? You know? 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.880 The position flex thing I think is fine to a point, 0:07:36.080 --> 0:07:38.200 but when it becomes the thing that you're hanging your 0:07:38.200 --> 0:07:41.160 hat on, then I think you get in trouble that way. 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:41.320 Yeah. 0:07:41.400 --> 0:07:45.239 And it's also interesting thinking that way specifically going into 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.800 this year and having a draft class centered around that, 0:07:47.880 --> 0:07:49.960 and then you have the conversation of Tyler Smith and 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:52.120 his position flex and they say, you know what, We're 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:53.920 not gonna move him at all. Yeah, We're gonna situate 0:07:54.000 --> 0:07:56.480 him in one specific spot. So it's almost like going 0:07:56.920 --> 0:07:59.480 counter balancing what you were trying to accomplish in the 0:07:59.520 --> 0:07:59.960 first place. 0:08:00.080 --> 0:08:02.440 What did you did you It was just looking at 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:04.080 more of the other guys, you look at overshown that 0:08:04.600 --> 0:08:06.800 has that safety linebacker flex, he can even rush the 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:09.360 passer a little bit. Looking the fourth round, Villiami Fijoko, 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.480 as soon as he was drafted, the word was, okay, 0:08:11.480 --> 0:08:14.000 he can move inside to move outside. Fifth round, you 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:15.680 look at Austin Richards. Yeah, we think he can move 0:08:15.720 --> 0:08:17.800 inside to guard. We think he has some ability there. 0:08:17.880 --> 0:08:19.600 I mean, you're even talking about Masie Smith. The first 0:08:19.600 --> 0:08:21.360 thing that came out of their mouth was we think 0:08:21.360 --> 0:08:23.280 we can unlock a little bit of a pass rush 0:08:23.360 --> 0:08:25.080 in him. So like being able to have a little 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.360 bit added element to their game. I mean you can 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.360 look at all the draft picks after Schoonmaker and really 0:08:29.360 --> 0:08:31.280 find something as far as versatility. 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:34.240 Goes, what's the okay, So in order to do that, 0:08:34.760 --> 0:08:36.000 what do you need time? 0:08:36.679 --> 0:08:37.000 Correct? 0:08:37.200 --> 0:08:37.400 Yeah? 0:08:37.559 --> 0:08:40.640 All those players you talked about, I mean, besides maybe 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.360 like an overshown, I thought he if he hadn't got injured, 0:08:43.400 --> 0:08:45.800 he could have made an immediate impact. But all those 0:08:45.840 --> 0:08:48.920 things that you're looking you're talking about require development and 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.040 require time. Babe, you didn't have time this year. Yeah yeah, 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:54.839 and you needed them this year. And so to me 0:08:55.640 --> 0:08:58.240 and again like this is how I viewed this draft class, 0:08:58.280 --> 0:09:01.000 I felt like it was a very support draft class. 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.240 I personally thought the Cowboys looked at what they did 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.240 in free agency with getting step On and then also 0:09:07.320 --> 0:09:09.960 getting Brandon Cooks, I thought they felt like they filled 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.240 those needs that maybe they would have went and attacked 0:09:12.280 --> 0:09:15.120 in the draft, and they were comfortable, maybe a little 0:09:15.160 --> 0:09:19.920 too comfortable with their starters, with their roster, and so 0:09:19.960 --> 0:09:22.520 the guys that they added were, oh, we'll give them 0:09:22.559 --> 0:09:25.360 a year and let them develop or whatever. I personally 0:09:25.400 --> 0:09:27.800 thought they were a little too confident in the roster 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.600 that they had going into this season, even though they 0:09:30.600 --> 0:09:34.240 did some good things. And like I said before, those 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:36.559 gentlemen that a lot of the gentlemen they drafted require 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.080 time and you should have been trying to win this year. 0:09:39.200 --> 0:09:41.400 So kind of based off that point in switching the 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.880 attention back to the twenty twenty four draft class, out 0:09:44.880 --> 0:09:47.160 of the individuals and the prospects that you guys have 0:09:47.200 --> 0:09:49.840 watched to this point, do you feel like this class 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:51.160 is better suited for. 0:09:51.200 --> 0:09:54.640 A toughness thought process for the Cowboys. 0:09:54.280 --> 0:09:59.080 Or maybe a ready made time to play now, like 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.280 ready for the n Pro ready stuff. 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:03.320 You know what, when I look at these when I 0:10:03.360 --> 0:10:05.920 look at the projections of the guys that could be centers, 0:10:06.559 --> 0:10:09.880 you know, I do. We've talked about Barton and we've 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.559 talked about the Oregon kid. I think there is an 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:16.480 element of toughness to those two guys. I really really do. 0:10:16.600 --> 0:10:18.839 So I find myself in my notes. I don't know 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:22.480 about you, guys. When I'm watching, I just type and 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:25.440 I'm like, man, this guy plays hard. This guy looks 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:28.680 like he loves the game. I'm typing that a lot 0:10:28.800 --> 0:10:32.480 more on these players than I believe I have in 0:10:32.520 --> 0:10:33.040 the past. 0:10:33.440 --> 0:10:34.880 And maybe maybe. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:38.200 That's my fault, Aisha, because I'm looking for those guys. 0:10:38.520 --> 0:10:39.840 You know, I'm looking. 0:10:39.559 --> 0:10:45.000 Because I know this team needs younger, but more of 0:10:45.040 --> 0:10:46.920 that toughness element to it. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:47.960 You're looking for grit. 0:10:48.080 --> 0:10:50.280 It's funny that you guys say that, because I literally 0:10:50.280 --> 0:10:52.160 wrote in my notes as I was looking at even 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.920 the wide receivers, I was like, ah, nice to be 0:10:54.960 --> 0:10:57.400 back to normal, because last year, when you looked at 0:10:57.600 --> 0:10:59.640 to your point about the grit and the toughness, I 0:10:59.720 --> 0:11:02.439 do think there's a lot of old school type players 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.160 in this draft. Even when you look at the tight 0:11:04.240 --> 0:11:06.240 end room, I think there are some guys that I've 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.560 received qualities, but these are just tight. 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:11.400 Ends, you know what I'm saying to me. And even 0:11:11.400 --> 0:11:11.640 with the. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:13.880 Running backs that I've looked at, it's not a whole 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.040 bunch of super finess, special stuff. They're just running backs 0:11:17.080 --> 0:11:18.959 like they can just run the ball efficiently. And when 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.080 you talk about the offensive all that stuff, it does 0:11:21.120 --> 0:11:25.080 feel like a kind of turning back the clock less 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.840 fancy schenchy. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:30.679 Could it be with older players fundamentals? 0:11:30.800 --> 0:11:35.000 Yeah, well the COVID year of adding another year and 0:11:35.040 --> 0:11:38.000 making guys a little bit fifthier guys or six year guys. 0:11:38.040 --> 0:11:41.160 Now, you do see more polished from certain from certain players. 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:44.840 I do think since I've been looking, I'm more so like, oh. 0:11:44.720 --> 0:11:46.720 He looks like he gets the position. 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:48.960 Oh he has a good feel for the position, or 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.920 you can tell he's been doing this for a while. 0:11:51.200 --> 0:11:53.240 I think I do think I see more of that 0:11:53.320 --> 0:11:54.880 this draft so far, so far? 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:57.280 Can I be a for a moment when it comes 0:11:57.360 --> 0:11:59.920 to toughness as far as. 0:12:00.240 --> 0:12:04.239 Nick goes into from every now and again, and it's phenomenal. 0:12:04.320 --> 0:12:06.880 Okay, So we talked about Jackson powers Johnson last week, 0:12:06.920 --> 0:12:09.160 and all of these are going to point towards warg Yeah. 0:12:09.320 --> 0:12:12.360 Remington Award winner is the nation's best center this past year. Phenomenal. 0:12:12.400 --> 0:12:14.160 I mean, we talked about it last week. I think enough. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.480 I mean he's a guy that's a maller upfront. CO 0:12:16.640 --> 0:12:20.800 signed Cedric van Pran Granger out of Georgia. So I'm 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.240 gonna give you a quick story on him. He's out 0:12:22.280 --> 0:12:25.320 of Warren Easton in New Orleans, one of the more 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:28.520 story programs down there in New Orleans. So he was 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.080 in a practic got into a practice fight a couple 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.520 of years ago with one named Bear Alexander. I mean, 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:35.480 this is public news, so I'm not breaking anything here. Got 0:12:35.480 --> 0:12:37.439 into a public had got into a fight with Bear 0:12:37.520 --> 0:12:40.600 Alexander in the middle of a practice Bear Alexander is 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:42.600 a bear. He's at a Didton and Ryan High School. 0:12:42.800 --> 0:12:44.600 Six three, three hundred and twenty pounds. There was a 0:12:44.640 --> 0:12:47.760 clear winner in that fight between those two guys, and 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:51.240 the next day Bear Alexander was in the portal. So 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:57.640 so yeah, yeah, yeah, Now he's at USC, He's gonna 0:12:57.640 --> 0:12:58.880 be a guy. Honestly, he's gonna be a guy. We 0:12:58.920 --> 0:13:00.600 talked about in the fast three round next year. He's 0:13:00.600 --> 0:13:03.599 a dog, but it was shocking because I mean he 0:13:03.760 --> 0:13:06.720 beat I don't want to say that he got into 0:13:06.720 --> 0:13:08.800 a fight with a guy who entered the portal the 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:10.480 next day. But you look at him on the field, 0:13:10.679 --> 0:13:12.560 he has that toughness on the field, he has that 0:13:12.640 --> 0:13:15.480 New Orleans grit down on the field. There's there's He's 0:13:15.480 --> 0:13:17.280 a really intriguing guy that I think you could look 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:19.480 at in the middle rounds if you're still looking for 0:13:19.520 --> 0:13:21.280 a center at that point, really like what he brings 0:13:21.280 --> 0:13:23.000 to the table. Now, if you're looking on the defensive 0:13:23.000 --> 0:13:24.840 side of the ball, I really like Peyton Wilson at 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:27.320 of North Carolina State. He's a wrestling state champion out 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:30.560 of North Carolina. He brings that type of you know, 0:13:30.960 --> 0:13:34.040 a type of physicality to the field. Over four hundred 0:13:34.080 --> 0:13:36.280 tackles in his time with a wolf Pack. I mean, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:39.520 he could have gone anywhere. Alabama, Michigan, these all these 0:13:39.520 --> 0:13:41.600 programs were all over him. He decided to stay home 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.520 and go to North Carolina State and as a result 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.800 he was able to start all four years. Really stack 0:13:45.880 --> 0:13:48.520 some confidence, stack some reps. He's a guy I really 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:51.440 like as a lineback, linebacker option in the middle rounds 0:13:51.440 --> 0:13:51.760 as well. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.280 That's interesting. A lot of people comparing him. 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:57.360 I haven't watched him yet, so if you guys have 0:13:57.400 --> 0:13:59.600 watched him, give your scouting report. But a lot of 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.120 they're saying it's very comparable to Steve Avilah last year 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:06.160 from TCU in terms of his his footwork. 0:14:05.760 --> 0:14:06.840 And his grit and his size. 0:14:06.880 --> 0:14:08.800 I mean, there's a lot of things that they compare 0:14:08.880 --> 0:14:11.640 with just based off of what I'm reading here about. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.080 Uh Van Pran? Is that how you say his name? 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:14.560 Van Prant? 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.960 Yeah, and he'sphenating his name. It looks like he' hyphenating 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:20.640 his name in the draft process of prand Granger. I 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.440 always knew him as a Van Pran whenever I was 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:24.440 covered from high school. But looks like we got a 0:14:24.440 --> 0:14:28.880 Granger as a hyphenated name. So school I spelled yeah 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:29.280 for sure? 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:34.360 Anybody else that Even on the defensive side. 0:14:34.400 --> 0:14:36.880 I know we're talking offensive line specifically, but is there 0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:40.320 a defensive size side where your your physicality can play 0:14:40.360 --> 0:14:40.680 a factor. 0:14:40.680 --> 0:14:42.280 We're gonna talk about defensive tackles later, right. 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:46.000 A little bit different save it, save it? 0:14:46.040 --> 0:14:47.840 I don't want to, but we could look at a 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.120 couple of edge guys, I mean, Jared Verse out of 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:53.440 Florida State. This is a guy that transferred in from Albany. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.240 I mean, he didn't have anything going on whenever he 0:14:55.240 --> 0:14:57.680 was out of a high school recruit and whenever he 0:14:57.800 --> 0:14:59.920 entered the portal out of Albany A couple of years ago, 0:15:00.480 --> 0:15:02.360 he was one of the hotter prospects in the entire 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:05.360 portal top five portal prospect with all the websites that 0:15:05.400 --> 0:15:07.680 do portal rankings, and he went Florida State, and he 0:15:08.000 --> 0:15:09.960 shows that. You could also look at Chop Robinson out 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.120 of Penn State. He's a late first early second round 0:15:12.200 --> 0:15:14.480 guy that has a lot of that physicality as well 0:15:14.520 --> 0:15:16.960 that you like off the edge, Like Chop is a name, Yeah, 0:15:17.080 --> 0:15:19.120 thousand percent. And we talked about lotso in his size 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:20.760 and how he's kind of got a little Joey Bosa 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:22.400 to him. So, I mean, there's some guys in this 0:15:22.440 --> 0:15:23.760 class I really enjoy. 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:25.880 So you said Chop Robinson out of Penn State. We 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.920 got to get better at saying that the school names afterwards. 0:15:28.400 --> 0:15:29.760 I got from UCLA. 0:15:30.080 --> 0:15:30.320 Yep. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:32.080 What were the other names you mentioned? 0:15:32.320 --> 0:15:35.040 Jared Verse out of Florida State and the man one 0:15:35.080 --> 0:15:36.960 more that I could throw in if y'all remember that 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:42.000 Colorado Colorado State games. Everybody right now at Kamara, yep, 0:15:42.040 --> 0:15:44.520 Mohammed Kamara. Yeah, man, he's he's a dog and that 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:46.280 was that was the number one state. 0:15:46.360 --> 0:15:47.080 Yeah, he did. 0:15:47.280 --> 0:15:49.960 He was the reason Colorado State was even in that game. 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:55.280 And then he had some some personal foul penalties that yeah, 0:15:55.280 --> 0:15:57.160 and I mean he was throwing bows. 0:15:56.920 --> 0:15:58.160 In the in the sideline. 0:15:58.200 --> 0:15:59.160 He made a lot of money that day. 0:15:59.240 --> 0:16:02.320 Yet me tell you this, this kid has got some 0:16:02.400 --> 0:16:05.600 DeMarcus Lawrence to his game and the way he plays 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.920 the run. I mean he is he can rush the passer, 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.200 but you cannot run on the outside. 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:12.240 Of this guy. 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:15.480 He's a shorter guy, he's six ' one, he's two fifty, 0:16:16.080 --> 0:16:19.560 but man, he's got some complete traits as far as 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:22.760 when it comes to getting rid of blockers, getting up field, 0:16:23.040 --> 0:16:25.520 kind of having an ideal of angling inside, making a 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:29.040 play behind the line of scrimmage. I mean you look 0:16:29.080 --> 0:16:31.840 at him and he's just when he rushed, I mean 0:16:31.880 --> 0:16:35.760 he comes screaming off that edge. And I mean I 0:16:36.280 --> 0:16:39.120 have a lot of respect for his game because again, 0:16:39.160 --> 0:16:41.880 when you brought up Tank, I always think of that 0:16:42.040 --> 0:16:44.800 complete guy, the guy that can play the run, can 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:49.200 play the pass, smart show, toughness, make plays. This kid's 0:16:49.200 --> 0:16:50.520 got some of those traits to him. 0:16:50.600 --> 0:16:52.440 Yeah, to that point, I'm definitely gonna I feel like 0:16:52.480 --> 0:16:55.000 I'm gonna take a deeper dive into edge because now 0:16:55.040 --> 0:16:57.480