1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: This is the almost famous podcast with our radio. Hi everybody, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 1: this is Trista with the A F O G Podcast. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: We are back. I'm so excited. I do have to 4 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 1: say though, that I am very sad because my co 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: host Bob Guinea is not here today. We are um 6 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: dividing and conquering in terms of the podcast where he 7 00:00:24,160 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: is in Karmel, and you guys can edit this out 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: if you need to. He's in Carmel interviewing Zach and 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,640 Speaker 1: I am home and I am getting the chance to 10 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: interview Jesse. Jesse is our host with the most who 11 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: was our first Canadian Bachelor, and I'm really excited to 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,400 Speaker 1: just chat with him. We have not talked since he 13 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 1: got his job, and or we have not talked since 14 00:00:51,040 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: he became the Bachelor host and the Bachelorette host and 15 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: the Bachelor Barrett Ice host. Pretty good gig if you 16 00:00:57,240 --> 00:01:00,639 Speaker 1: ask me, Um, I'm sure he is having a lot 17 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: of fun, but I want to talk to him all 18 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:07,479 Speaker 1: about how he's liking it, his personal life and of 19 00:01:07,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: course this season of the Bachelor. And here we go. 20 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: It's good seeing you, by the way, Oh my gosh, 21 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: it's so good to see you. I'm so excited to chat. 22 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: We have not been able to chat since you know. Actually, okay, 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: please remind me because I'm a little bit older than you, 24 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: so please show me some grace because I have memory issues. 25 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: Have we met before we I think we have officially 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: met very very quickly once, uh somewhere with Ryan, but 27 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:44,399 Speaker 1: we have never done this together in like a professional capacity. Yeah, 28 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: or had an extended conversation. I know I would have 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: remembered that, but um, yeah, if we said hi, I Apploian. 30 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: I'm so bad these days, Jesse, I don't remember my name. 31 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes as we get older, we'll trust me. I think 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: I'm I'm always blaming football concussions on my failure, right, 33 00:02:05,680 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: so I have something to fall back on that way, 34 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: But I'm I'm I'll tell you man, it's crazy. I 35 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 1: was just thinking about this earlier. It is like, it's 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: amazing how many seasons have happened since you and I 37 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: were both on this thing, and how it's just changed. 38 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: It evaulved so much as crazy. It's you know, I was. 39 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: I was actually doing a bunch of interviews this morning 40 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,239 Speaker 1: and that was a question, how has it changed? And 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many ways that it's changed. It's 42 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 1: hard to like come up with one profound answer, but, um, 43 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: how do you feel like it's changed because your seat 44 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:46,919 Speaker 1: has changed? You know, you went from being the guy 45 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:52,160 Speaker 1: as the Bachelor to being the what are we going 46 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:55,600 Speaker 1: to call it, the friend, the counselor the obviously the host. 47 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: But how do you feel like it's changed having that 48 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: front row seat? Yeah, well, you know my role, as 49 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: you said, it's looking at everything through a completely different 50 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: lens obviously, right. Um, yeah, I don't know, Like I 51 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 1: just feel like, you know, from my time as being 52 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 1: the Bachelor, I feel like the budget of the show 53 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,360 Speaker 1: is way bigger. I feel like people are going on 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,560 Speaker 1: way better, better adventures. Like I got to write an elephant, 55 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: which was awesome, but that was like that was like 56 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 1: the Pinnacle versus like Zach, who's like, you know, these 57 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: people are now taking like helicopter rides and lading on. Yeah, 58 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: it's like the Mediterranean. Those are those are things I 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: never saw. Um, and I think to like, just Bachelor 60 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: Nation is grown and grown and grown, and with the 61 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 1: advent of social media that obviously wasn't around when I 62 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: did it, it's just made it an entirely different platform. 63 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: And it's just the scope of everything now. I just 64 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: think it's so so much bigger and different huge. You're 65 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: so right, I mean the budget in particular. I was 66 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: just laughing earlier today because Ryan and I went to Seattle, 67 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: which is awesome. I love Seattle, I love theat I 68 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: would not have turned down flying on a helicopter and 69 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: landing on a yacht in the Aximas or in Australia 70 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: or you know what I mean. You know, damn, I 71 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:24,000 Speaker 1: know it. Um, Okay, so you had some pretty big 72 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: shoes to fill clearly with Harrison have well, First of all, 73 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,120 Speaker 1: have you talked to him? I haven't talked to him. No, 74 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm really happy for him, though. Yeah. I know he's 75 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: got his new podcast. I haven't listened to it, but um, 76 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: if anyone's if anyone is able to talk about pop culture, 77 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: I know he's a huge fan of that. So I'm 78 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: just really happy for him and wish him the best 79 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:46,800 Speaker 1: of us on his next venture. Yeah, of course. Um, 80 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: did you feel like pressure coming into that position, considering 81 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Harrison had been doing it for for so long? And 82 00:04:55,440 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: I feel like the you know, the people Bachelor Nation 83 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: and were you know, there were there were a lot 84 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: of people who were upset. Did you feel pressure or 85 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: how did you feel? Because you know, I tried to 86 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: come in and just just be myself. You know, I 87 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: think I have a lot of my football background to 88 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: sort of lean on for that at times when you 89 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: go to different teams and you know, fans are used 90 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: to a certain player who's playing your position, and all 91 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: you can really do is just sort of go in 92 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: and and be yourself and not try to be somebody else. So, 93 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, obviously, as a fan of the franchise, you know, 94 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: having been the Bachelor and then having watched for years 95 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: and years and years, I just I sort of, you know, 96 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: really decided to come in and just really try to 97 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: be myself, you know, and and try to own it 98 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 1: the best I could just being me, um, because I 99 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: thought that would be the most authentic thing and that 100 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: would come across the most natural. So, um, you know, 101 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: obviously I'm still I'm still figuring it out right. It's 102 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 1: still so new to me in so many different ways. 103 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: And and you know, this season of the Bachelor for me, 104 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: hosting is a lot different than when I hosted with 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: Clayton as the Bachelor, um, and so different, well, you know, 106 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: I think the bachelors are different, the personalities are different, 107 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 1: the casts are different, and you know it's I think 108 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: when you're a host, you wear so many different hats. UM. 109 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 1: I feel like with with Zach, you know, I've I've 110 00:06:26,120 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: had to sort of learn that you know when to be, 111 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: when to be went to where a certain had at 112 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 1: different times. For instance, Zack's you know this is a 113 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: really emotional season. Um. Yeah, it's the most It's easily 114 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,479 Speaker 1: the most emotional that that I hosted. UM. And I 115 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: think a big part of that is because how intentional 116 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:47,919 Speaker 1: everybody is. I think what made this very unique for 117 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: me at least was how many women got out of 118 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: the limo and looked at Zack and said, hey, I'm 119 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 1: really happy it's you or I'm here because of you. 120 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: And I know Zach is really sort of as people 121 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:00,560 Speaker 1: have seen. I think through the first two episodes, he's 122 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 1: really gone out of his way to to try to 123 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,920 Speaker 1: give as many women as he could time. He wants 124 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: to get to know as many as possible. He took 125 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: everybody on a date UM this past episode, so you know, 126 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 1: he's really he's really intent on on making this work 127 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: and finding his person Um. But I think a lot 128 00:07:20,160 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: of the a lot of the drama that unfolds throughout 129 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: the course of this year. I think it's very organic 130 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: in the sense that it's not it's not necessarily a Cattinus. 131 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: It's it's people falling in love and people getting their 132 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: hearts broken. And I think goodbyes for Zach are really tough. 133 00:07:38,480 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: He Um, He's he's the type of guy that just 134 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 1: does not want to hurt anybody's feelings. Um. And so 135 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: for me, you know where when you know when when 136 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: pass leads would say goodbye, they would just sort of 137 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: say goodbye, and it was it was a tough moment. 138 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 1: They kind of head back on in the mansion and 139 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: kind of collect everybody and tell them where we're off 140 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: to next. With With Zach, he really like felt the moment. 141 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: And you know, there's times people will see as we 142 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: move along, when when there's a goodbye, whether it's planned 143 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: or it's not planned, but there happens after a ros ceremony, 144 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: or it happens premature to a ROAs ceremony somewhere, we'll see. Um, 145 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: the further he goes, the harder he takes it, and 146 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 1: he really needs time to sort of collect himself and 147 00:08:19,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: he's sort of this present, he's in the moment, and 148 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: it was some of those moments where sometimes you know 149 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: you've got to kind of as a host go back 150 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 1: in there and and be a shoulder to cry and 151 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: you got to give the guy a hug sometimes, And 152 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:33,079 Speaker 1: so it was. It was just a different It was 153 00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: a different overall field based on the fact that Zack 154 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: is authentic to himself. He's his own guy, and it 155 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 1: was a bit of a different, a different journey than 156 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: some of the others that I've I've posted so far. Yeah, 157 00:08:53,679 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: are there times when you want to jump in and 158 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: go do something when they're pretty and are you a 159 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: producer at this point? Okay, so are there times when 160 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: you want to jump in and do something different than 161 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: the producer? Or have there been Has there been a 162 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: time like that where you've wanted to do something and um, 163 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,880 Speaker 1: it hasn't been something that the producers have said that 164 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 1: you can do any moments like that. Yeah, I think 165 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 1: I haven't had to too many of those. I would 166 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: say that what I'm trying to do and I'm trying 167 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: to be as mindful as i can about this, just 168 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: not making it about myself, um, you know, and always 169 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: trying to interject with my advice because it's really it's 170 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: not about me, you know, it's about Zach, and it's 171 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: about the women. I mean, it's it's about the women 172 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: as much as it is about Zack. It's their journey too, 173 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: And so you know, as you know, the journey kind 174 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: of it, it takes itself out on its own course 175 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 1: and it goes where it will. Zack's journey certainly does 176 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: not go totally out. He thinks it's going to go um, 177 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: and there are a bunch of twists and turns and 178 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,079 Speaker 1: things that he's prepared for. He's got a lot of 179 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: difficult decisions still ahead of him. Um. You know, my 180 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: job is to try to be there and be a 181 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: confidante for him, and to be an ally and and 182 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:11,719 Speaker 1: a voice of reason and and to give advice if 183 00:10:11,800 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: Zach wants it and wants to ask for it. Zach 184 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: is that and by the way, he does do that. 185 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: And and obviously he also has Sean who's who's there 186 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: for him as well, the sort of to give him 187 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 1: some some some added perspective. But you know, I just 188 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,560 Speaker 1: I think as the host, you got to be careful 189 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 1: not to not to constantly be jumping in, you know, 190 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 1: and because because you know, I don't want to derail, 191 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 1: you know, where Zack's going. And by the way, you know, 192 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: things that I think Zach should do aren't necessarily right 193 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: for Zach. Zach knows himself better and what he wants 194 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,400 Speaker 1: than I do. And so I'm just I'm always trying 195 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 1: to be sort of sort of thoughtful and aware of that. 196 00:10:50,280 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: Just available. Yeah, always, yeah, always there, and there's you know, 197 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: and there are times certainly that I do have to 198 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 1: go in and and be there for him, no doubt Jack. 199 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: But I think you have to pick those moments carefully 200 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: and thoughtful, because like, I don't need Zack thinking I'm 201 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:09,199 Speaker 1: always like peeking over his shoulder and I'm hiding in 202 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: the bushes, like ready to jump in and like save 203 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: the guy. It's like, you know, you're proud of him. 204 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: You want to go out and do it, but you know, 205 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 1: but you you gotta let him figure it out for 206 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: himself too, Yeah, of course. Um okay, So what has 207 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,719 Speaker 1: been your favorite part of this new job for you? 208 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 1: I think it's just meeting meeting the people. I I 209 00:11:28,679 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 1: just love people. I love being around them and I 210 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 1: love getting to know them and so you know, it's 211 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 1: that that to me has been It's been a lot 212 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 1: of fun and I've stayed in touch with a lot 213 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: of them. Um, and so it's really really cool. Um 214 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: it's fun sometimes to be on a season and then 215 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: see them again in Paradise and kind of see where 216 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: that goes. And you know, try to help people, you know, 217 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 1: find their person and find love. And we've been successful 218 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:57,199 Speaker 1: in doing that as well. Uh. And then I have 219 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: to say, because we've already touched on it, uh, but 220 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: avel doesn't suck, no kidding, right, it's a totally new thing. 221 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:11,360 Speaker 1: I wish we could have. Well, I mean this season 222 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: on Zach season, he hit like the jackpot when it 223 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,079 Speaker 1: came to travel. So you know, when we leave California, 224 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: we go to the Bahamas and we go to London 225 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,960 Speaker 1: and we go to Estonia, place the show has never 226 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: been and I don't even know where that is. It's 227 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: like eastern Europe. It's like close to lot and Riga 228 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,000 Speaker 1: and the Bay of Finland. It's like right across from 229 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 1: from Finland. It's and I've actually been there before. It's 230 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,440 Speaker 1: an amazing place. Um. So so I was really excited 231 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: for Zack on that. Uh. And then we also go 232 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: to Budapest, which is this incredibly beautiful and charming old 233 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:50,640 Speaker 1: city with tons of history. Um yeah, Zach like totally 234 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: lucked out. There's the things that you and I never 235 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:56,240 Speaker 1: got to do. We did not Pacific Pacific Northwest is great. 236 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 1: I just know Zack Za gets a sort of im not. 237 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm not cutting on Seattle, but I definitely would have 238 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: loved to go to buddhadest um okay um. Compared to 239 00:13:11,080 --> 00:13:17,800 Speaker 1: ESPN because you have hosted or commentated or been an 240 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: analyst on ESPN, So compared to esp comparing ESPN to 241 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: The Bachelor, what is what's your face like? If you 242 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 1: had to pick one? I don't know. It's like hard 243 00:13:30,240 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: because like football is my wheelhouse. It's what I've always done, 244 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: and I've been doing that, you know, I've been I've 245 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: been working at ESPN for seventeen years now. It's crazy. Yeah, 246 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I've been there a long time and I love it. 247 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: I love football, and it's like, you know, you're My 248 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: role really is an analytical role. You talk about football, 249 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,240 Speaker 1: you talk about what you see, you give your opinions 250 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: on that you do it in forty second sound bites. 251 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: It's all live all the time, and then you're out 252 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: where this is a totally different animal. And I think 253 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: what I love about this is that, you know, because 254 00:14:00,559 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: I'm so new at it, still I still get nervous. 255 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: I still have those feels, um, you know, but I'm 256 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: fanning out as well because you know, having been The 257 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 1: Bachelor and having been a fan of the franchise. I 258 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: just love where I am and I love what I'm doing, 259 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 1: and I love the people. And like we talked about earlier, 260 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: you wear so many different hats. It's never so much analytical. 261 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: It's it's being a therapist at times, you know, being 262 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: a shoulder to cry on, being a cheerleader, giving advice, 263 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 1: being a mentor. All those different things were really really fun. 264 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: So um, I love I'm lucky that I get to 265 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 1: do both at the same time. And it's just they 266 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: just balance and play off each other so well. They 267 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:38,440 Speaker 1: are incredible jobs. I mean I know that my husband 268 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: when you were announced as um working in college football, 269 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 1: he was you know, I feel like he would have 270 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: so much fun at that job actually, to the point 271 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: that he was like, you should go do that. I'm like, No, 272 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 1: I know nothing about football compared to you, and I 273 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 1: would be horrible as you would be great. You would 274 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,840 Speaker 1: be amazing, sweet, but would be incredible. Listen, I know 275 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: Ryan a little bit because my football agent also knows Ryan, 276 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: Peter Schaefer from Colorado. You are Peter Schaefer's client. Yes, 277 00:15:15,640 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: he was my agent when I played football. I know. 278 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:21,800 Speaker 1: It's like six degrees of separations. So I've known all 279 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: about Ryan and how much he loves football. But I 280 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: can tell right away you're super talented. If you ever 281 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 1: wanted to do it, that would be something you'd be amazing. 282 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 1: Oh you're the sweetest, um. But yeah, no, there's no 283 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 1: way I would stress out too much. Like it comes 284 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: naturally to guys like you and Ryan who have played 285 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Like it comes naturally. You did it 286 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: for so long, it's part of who you are. For me, 287 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: I could commentate on a dance competition, but not a 288 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: football game. Nope, not for me. But I'll leave it 289 00:15:55,880 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: to you guys the pros. Um. Okay, so I I 290 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: think this is um. This is something that I would 291 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:09,400 Speaker 1: worry about as a host, is if I said something 292 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: Because I do this? Everyone does this, right, You go 293 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: to a party, you're talking to somebody and you say 294 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 1: something that you're like, why did I say that? Or 295 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: you think about it like an hour later the next 296 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,440 Speaker 1: day and you're you're like, oh, that just makes me 297 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: want to cringe that I said that. Is there anything 298 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: that you've said so far or in a way that 299 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: you've said it, that you've you've just totally regretted saying 300 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 1: it or cringed at the fact that you said it. 301 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: It's hard. I mean, I in general hate seeing myself 302 00:16:40,840 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: on TV. I was like it when I played football. 303 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: I hate it when I played football. I used to 304 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 1: hate watching myself play back, and when I see myself 305 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: on ESPN after, I absolutely hate it. I hate my voice. 306 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: I hate the way I say things. It's not how 307 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 1: I think I sound, because what I've learned is it's 308 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: never as good as you thought. Like there were times 309 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: when I played or there's times I say things and 310 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,199 Speaker 1: I'm like, heck, yeah, that was smooth. That was host 311 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 1: you my friend or a host, And then I watched 312 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,360 Speaker 1: it back and replay and I'm like, that was so basic. 313 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: That's said. There was nothing about that that was unique 314 00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 1: or special. Why did you think it was so good. 315 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 1: But what I've also learned is while it's never as 316 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: good as you think, it's also never quite as bad 317 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: as you think too. You're so right there. Ever, are 318 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: times where you kind of say something, or you set 319 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,479 Speaker 1: something up, or you know, you're you know, whatever it 320 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 1: is on the show, like like the things I get 321 00:17:36,119 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: really fired up for. This is probably really a stupid thing. 322 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: But you know when you go in and you know 323 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:42,199 Speaker 1: when you dropped the date cards. Sometimes when when the 324 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: women are the guys are all in the room and 325 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 1: you're telling them where they're flying to next, and you're 326 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,679 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a big reveal and it's gonna be 327 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 1: like this really incredible international destination. Everybody, go pack your 328 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: bags and get out because your flight leaves in an hour. 329 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: Let's go. In my mind, I always make it sound 330 00:17:57,960 --> 00:17:59,800 Speaker 1: like I think I'm making it seem like it's just 331 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: this huge, amazing thing, And sometimes I watch it back 332 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: and I'm like, you really sort of let your foot 333 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: off the gas on that one, Like you didn't really 334 00:18:07,000 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: like drive at home, you know. And I know part 335 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: of it is the fact that normally we've had a 336 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: rose ceremony the night before and you've like slept for 337 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,959 Speaker 1: like three hours maybe when you go back in the 338 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: mansion to tell everybody. So it's like you're like stumbling 339 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: in everybody's half awake and they have to go back. 340 00:18:23,840 --> 00:18:26,359 Speaker 1: But I always wish like I would, I would deliver 341 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:28,439 Speaker 1: that with a lot more. We'll see, We'll see how 342 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 1: it goes on Zach season, because like I'm fired up 343 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: for them because they're getting to go to these amazing 344 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 1: places and so yes, hopefully that hopefully it comes across better, 345 00:18:37,520 --> 00:18:40,360 Speaker 1: but it's again never as good as I thought, never 346 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 1: quite as bad. Also, yeah, that's a great way to 347 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: look at it. I think you're right. I remember hearing 348 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 1: something from someone about, um, don't worry too much about 349 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: what other people think, because they really aren't thinking that 350 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: much about you, you know, like, don't worry so much. 351 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,800 Speaker 1: It's not good, you know, just do you? And yeah, um, okay, 352 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: So I would love to know like about you personally. 353 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: Obviously you being on the show as the host, we 354 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: don't get to know a lot about who Jesse is 355 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: and you're like day to day. I would love to 356 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,240 Speaker 1: know how you met your wife and tell me a 357 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,959 Speaker 1: little bit about her. Yeah, thanks, So I'm super lucky. 358 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: I'm married to this amazing woman who's way out of 359 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: my league. And I met Emily. Emily's from Brazil and 360 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: she lived in New York City for eleven years. I 361 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,120 Speaker 1: was there for twenty one years. I stuck around after 362 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: I played during all my different TV stuff, and I 363 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 1: actually met Emily in a very organic way, which I'm 364 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: really happy about. I met her at a boxing class actually, 365 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: uh in New York City. Yeah. So I watched this 366 00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: gorgeous woman, all sweaty, and she was punching this bag 367 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: and she was just beating the crap out of it. 368 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,200 Speaker 1: And I was so turned on, but I was also 369 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: kind of scared. And it was like this this like 370 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: fine line in the middle, and I was like, man, 371 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: if I'm ever lucky enough to date this woman, I 372 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: am never gonna lie to her. All right, good, And 373 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: so that's kind started. Yeah, it's just kind of how 374 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,920 Speaker 1: it started. And our first date was a boxing class 375 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,679 Speaker 1: and then it kind of involved the protein shakes and 376 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: then lunches. Emily really slow play. She really kind of 377 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,359 Speaker 1: wanted to see what I was about. Um, And you know, 378 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:23,359 Speaker 1: here we are, like almost six years later, and uh, 379 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: she's still putting up with me, so it's great. Stop. 380 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure if you speak French to her, 381 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: she's like a puddle. She's yeah, she's she. It's like 382 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: when she speaks Portuguese to me. I love it when 383 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,159 Speaker 1: she speaks to her parents or her friends. You're just 384 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: sort of sitting there and you're like, coma just uh. 385 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 1: You probably just called me a bunch of bad names, 386 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: but I don't care. It sounds amazing. Who cares? Yeah, 387 00:20:49,960 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: your lunch order is making me drool? Are you guys 388 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: based out of New York? Still? We know? We moved 389 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: to Miami actually back in April. Amazing. It was over 390 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: the cold weather. Oh that's amazing. I actually lived in 391 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 1: Miami for seven years. I went to University of Miami 392 00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 1: and dance. I didn't when we were there, um Coral Gables, 393 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: so I stayed close to school and UM. And then 394 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 1: I worked at Miami Children's Hospital, which it's called something 395 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: else now it's the Children's hospital there, but I was 396 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: like five minutes away from work, which was amazing that 397 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: it was fun. They actually just announced that we're having 398 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: a reunion in March where all of the Heat dancers 399 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: are going to come and we get to dance on 400 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: the court, um and just re unite, and I'm trying 401 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: to make it work. I don't know, but I'll let 402 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: you know. If we come to Miami, Um, I'm glad 403 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: to see. Do you ever bump into Ashley or JP? 404 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 1: I do not since I've been down there, And I 405 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 1: also haven't been there at Ton too. It's like with 406 00:22:12,240 --> 00:22:13,720 Speaker 1: the schedule, I'm sort of there for a couple of 407 00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:17,760 Speaker 1: days and I'm gone. But Emily is so happy. We're 408 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:19,919 Speaker 1: close to the beach and we've got the dog and 409 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,840 Speaker 1: she she walks the dog into the water every morning 410 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: and it's just like her paradise that it's great love 411 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,639 Speaker 1: it has she been able to travel with you, she has, 412 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 1: which is really really important for us and our relationship 413 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: because I'm I'm constantly on the go, and so what's 414 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: really really neat is that she gets to come out 415 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:39,919 Speaker 1: to l A when we're filming in l A. And 416 00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: then on some of these trips we take, she's able 417 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: to kind of pop out and join along. And so 418 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: over the last year and a half she's got to 419 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 1: sort of meet everybody on the crew and there's like, 420 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: you know, the Bachelor crew, it's like it's like four deep. 421 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 1: There's so many people and so there's a lot of 422 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: familiarity there with her, which is really nice, meeting people 423 00:22:57,480 --> 00:23:00,200 Speaker 1: in our producers and like the camera people in the US, 424 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: an audio and everyone that that makes the show so great. Um, 425 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: she's kind of she's kind of becoming, you know, sort 426 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: of this extended part of that family, which is which 427 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 1: has been really really cool, and it's it's great for 428 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,239 Speaker 1: us to be able to spend that time away from 429 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: home too. Yeah, of course, I think it's so important 430 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: to get away. And like I said, I was doing 431 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: some interviews this morning and people were celebrating our twentieth 432 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: wedding anniversary in December, and you know, the question has 433 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,919 Speaker 1: come up, what's your what's your secret? Or you know, 434 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: how do you keep going? And I think it's all 435 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: about prioritization and making sure that your relationship is is 436 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: at the top of the list. You know, when you're 437 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: when you're traveling, you try to do stuff together. When 438 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 1: when you our home, you try to do stuff together. 439 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: And just making sure that each other knows that, yeah, 440 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: you are each other's top priority. I think that's that's 441 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 1: the best way to go about life and make or 442 00:24:00,160 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: that you're happy. Um, so are you guys looking to 443 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:12,520 Speaker 1: expand your family at all? And got something more? No, 444 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 1: we we've talked about Yeah, we would love to have kids, 445 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: and so I think we're sort of both at a 446 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: point where we're ready to have a little Jesse's and 447 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,720 Speaker 1: emilies running around. So we're you know, we're excited and 448 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: hopeful and we'll see what happens. Yeah right, I mean 449 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 1: she's got a busy schedule following you around, but hopefully 450 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: you can have little bachelor babies. And I've waited, Yeah, 451 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,840 Speaker 1: I've waited a long time to do this. I mean 452 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 1: it took me a lot of years to finally get 453 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: down on the knees. So I feel like it's it's 454 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:42,919 Speaker 1: time to kind of hustle it up a little bit, 455 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: start getting Yeah, it's a little ones running around now. Yeah, 456 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: I have two younger brothers. Okay, have kids, so I 457 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: gotta kid. Oh you do they have kids? Yes? I 458 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: have four nephews. Oh so your parents are like, Okay, 459 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 1: it's time let's go. Yeah, time for a second time 460 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:06,719 Speaker 1: for a little girl. That would be great? Oh yes, 461 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 1: would you? Would you be? You know, I hate saying 462 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: this because as a parent. You can't pick a favorite. 463 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,359 Speaker 1: And when I was pregnant, Everyone's like, what do you 464 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: hope you would have? Um? I just wanted a healthy baby. 465 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 1: But do you feel like being a girl dad would be? 466 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: You know, in your wheelhouse? Or would you rather be 467 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,240 Speaker 1: a football with a little boy? I mean, you hit 468 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: it on the head. For me, it would just be 469 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 1: if we had you know, at this point, beggars can't 470 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: be choosers. I'll take anything, totally, take anything. And hey, 471 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: you can have a daughter and throw the football with 472 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: the daughter. Totally totally. I just I would. I would 473 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: love to have a little a little baby girl, and 474 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: because I know I would be a total daddy's girl 475 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 1: and she would have me wrapped around her finger and 476 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 1: I would do it. I would do it without any hesitation. 477 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: We just somehow don't make a lot of girls in 478 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: our family. I have two brothers. My brother has three boys. 479 00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: My other brother has a boy. So something's got to give. 480 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: I think it's me. I'm going to manifest this. You're 481 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: going to do it right now? Yes, every night, you're 482 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 1: just going to think about it. Okay, So I'm sure 483 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 1: this is your job. Let's go one job. Um, Okay, 484 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: I want to end on UM on Zack season, give 485 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:39,560 Speaker 1: us a little tease if you if you will. Obviously 486 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: I know you can't spoil anything. It comes with a job. 487 00:26:42,680 --> 00:26:45,359 Speaker 1: But is there something you can tell us that you 488 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,919 Speaker 1: haven't told anyone else, or something you can tell us 489 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 1: about this season that is super exciting that we'll get 490 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: people to listen to this podcast, you know, like like 491 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: for me, like I what I what I kind of 492 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 1: feel and why I'm so excited about this season, especially 493 00:26:59,840 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: for Bachelor fans out there and people that have been 494 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 1: watching the show a long time, including when we were 495 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: we were on the show. UM, is that I think 496 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: this is gonna feel very nostalgic to a lot of them. Um. 497 00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:13,520 Speaker 1: This season really is a throwback in the sense that 498 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,119 Speaker 1: it is so much more about the love story and 499 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: less about the drama. There absolutely is drama, no doubt 500 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 1: about it, and you can't like you can't avoid that, 501 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 1: but that's not going to be the prevailing, overriding theme 502 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: of this season. We know Zack's intentions on being there 503 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 1: and these women are very intent as well. They can't 504 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,719 Speaker 1: you know, they really are there for Zach and so, 505 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier, UM, it's extremely emotional 506 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 1: and and you know, we're sort of going to ride 507 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 1: the lightning and ride the wave here with Zack as 508 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,800 Speaker 1: he tries to navigate all of this. But um, you know, 509 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: his his soul main focus is finding love. He's not 510 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:51,640 Speaker 1: there to play the drama. And you kind of saw 511 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 1: that in in this most recent episode. He just Zack 512 00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:59,199 Speaker 1: is able to make decisions and not let things manifest 513 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 1: and fester. He he he can, he can step up. 514 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,600 Speaker 1: He can make tough decisions and move on. I think 515 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 1: that's endearing him right now a lot with a lot 516 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 1: of the women in the house. Um, and so you know, 517 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,080 Speaker 1: I I just spoke with Zach. I can't give the 518 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: ending away. Zach is extremely happy and he wouldn't change 519 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 1: anything about how this journey unfolds. So there's just a 520 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: lot of kind of old Bachelor vibes going on. We've 521 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,359 Speaker 1: got the Bachelor Bowl coming up in the next episode, 522 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: which is something that's become synonymous with the franchise. There's 523 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,680 Speaker 1: a massive pool party, which we had on my season 524 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: at the Mansion when I was a Bachelor's acts about 525 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 1: the partake and that coming up as well. And there's 526 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: just you know, I think people are just going to 527 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: sort of see and feel a lot of a lot 528 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: of the love, which which really at the core of 529 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: this show. That's what it is about. That's what it 530 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: should be about. And I think we're really sort of 531 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: getting back to that on this season. Good. That's why 532 00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,040 Speaker 1: I've always watched. I feel like I love love and 533 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: I love to see a love story unfold and root 534 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 1: for the couple and and you know, see how it 535 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: pans out after the show. So I'm glad to hear that. 536 00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I wish only the best for every single 537 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: person who has filled the shoes that we have been 538 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,160 Speaker 1: lucky enough to Phil Prior, and um, I hope that 539 00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: for Zach too, So thank you so much. I do 540 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,760 Speaker 1: have one last question, So, um, do you think you 541 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 1: can put a word in that you know, Shan Low 542 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: is great and all, and he's successful in his relationship, 543 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: and you know he's got kids and they're very happy. 544 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 1: What about me, Like, dude, Hello, you're on, I will 545 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 1: be the messenger for you. You're ready. No, I'm like, dude, 546 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 1: they must have something against me. I must have done 547 00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:58,040 Speaker 1: something wrong because I am never asked to come back. 548 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 1: And you know, Zach was like Oh, Sean's been married 549 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: for however long, I can't remember how long he's been 550 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: married for. And he's super successful in relation relationship. And 551 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I know me too, what I was 552 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: on it way before that. Just over here, I'm just 553 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for a dance. I'll totally be the 554 00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: messenger for you. Put a good word. I thought you 555 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,000 Speaker 1: were going to ask me for a job at ESPN. 556 00:30:26,040 --> 00:30:32,480 Speaker 1: I was like, yes, would die he would be so excited. 557 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Jesse, thank you so much for your time, 558 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: for your energy. I think you're doing a great job. 559 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,920 Speaker 1: It's great to watch you and and I'm glad you're 560 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: there to support our our new little siblings. Little siblings 561 00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:51,240 Speaker 1: is the little gaffers running all over. It's so great 562 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: being on with you. Thank you so much, Thank you, Jesse. 563 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:57,479 Speaker 1: All Right, we'll see you all right, cool, have a 564 00:30:57,480 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: great day, have time in those interviews. Oh yeah, you're 565 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,000 Speaker 1: the high point. We'll see okay. Bye,