1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. 4 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 5 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 7 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 8 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 10 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: Ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird This 11 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: with Joshua Warren. I am Joshua B. Warren, and each 12 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: week on this show, I'll be bringing a brand new 13 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:17,959 Speaker 1: my blowing content, news exercises and weird experiments you can 14 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: do at home, and a lot more on this edition 15 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: of the show. Have Mermaids Ever Been Real? Plus Monkeys? Paul, 16 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: One of my favorites. Speaking of my favorites, one of 17 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: my favorite movies is Grimlins from nineteen eighty four. I 18 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: think a lot of people would say that, and the 19 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: guy who was the father in that movie, who pretty 20 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:56,560 Speaker 1: much kind of narrated the story, was Hoite Axton, and 21 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 1: I've always just loved his voice because he wasn't just 22 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 1: an actor, but he also was He was most known 23 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: as a as a songwriter and a singer. He wrote 24 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:11,359 Speaker 1: to Joy to the World, you know, Jeremiah Well it 25 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: was a pool frog and uh, well I never I've 26 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:19,359 Speaker 1: been to Spain and the songs like that. But he 27 00:02:19,880 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: really stood out for his his voice, whether he was 28 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 1: speaking or singing. And of course, in nineteen eighty four 29 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: is Grimlins. In the beginning of the movie, his character 30 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,960 Speaker 1: is in some Chinatown and he's looking for a Christmas 31 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: gift for his son, and he ends up going into 32 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: this mysterious shop with this you know, run by this 33 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:56,119 Speaker 1: ancient old man and discovers this creature tucked away called 34 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: a maguai. And I presume we all know the story 35 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: of grim One, so I'm not going to repeat that 36 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: to you. But I always was fascinated by that concept 37 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: that maybe someday you could you could walk into some 38 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: obscure shops somewhere and discover a new creature. And that 39 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 1: probably contributed to some of my interest over the years 40 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: in collecting things and owning a museum and that sort 41 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: of sort of deal. Well, I had kind of a 42 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: reminiscent experience. You know, my wife, Lauren and I have 43 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:42,080 Speaker 1: been together for almost thirty years, and I know that's 44 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 1: hard to believe considering how young and handsome I still am. 45 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:54,000 Speaker 1: Actually that's not true. I'm in my young Santa Claus 46 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: stage at this point. She has aged far better than I. 47 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: But that will all change once I soon drink baby 48 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 1: blood and get my fresh stem cells. And long ago, 49 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: when Lauren and I were first forming our relationship, there 50 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: was a time when we didn't have much money. As 51 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, there was a time when we 52 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 1: were basically broke, I mean literally. One thing that has 53 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,679 Speaker 1: stuck with me is that she was coming home from 54 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 1: work at one point and I wanted to have us 55 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: a couple of salads and baked potatoes. And so I 56 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: went to a local bar and I told him I'd 57 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 1: like two salads and two baked potatoes to go. And 58 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: when they came, my card was declined and I didn't 59 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: have any other way to pay, and so I had 60 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: to go home empty handed and without those two salads 61 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: and two baked potatoes. Now, sure there were people who 62 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: could have helped me if i'd called the salad and 63 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: baked potato ambilance. But you know, I wasn't going to 64 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: do that. But I know I remember walking out of 65 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: that bar and thinking to myself, man to heck with this, 66 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be like this anymore. And that 67 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: was one of the things that started me on this 68 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: process of learning how to manifest things and also understanding 69 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: that sometimes bad things are necessary in order to make 70 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,599 Speaker 1: you change and lead you to better things. It's kind 71 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,200 Speaker 1: of like pain when you put your hand in a flame. 72 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,280 Speaker 1: The pain is there to help you. The pain itself sucks, 73 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: but the pain it shows you that you shouldn't be 74 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: doing that. And sometimes the worst, the worst something hurts, 75 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,960 Speaker 1: then the more it's driving you in a more positive direction. 76 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:54,479 Speaker 1: It's hard to see it at the time. And so 77 00:05:54,520 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: if you're going through a tough time right now, no 78 00:05:56,600 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: matter what it has to do with whether it's money 79 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: or health or relationships or whatever it is, I mean, 80 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: you just have to think that sometimes you know, pain 81 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 1: is there to drive you towards what's good for you, 82 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: and that this sometimes the more painful it is, the 83 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: bigger the payoff is going to be when you get 84 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: the reward. If you're smart, and you go in the 85 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 1: right direction, you get the character to stick. But I'm 86 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: telling you all that because when we decided to get married, 87 00:06:32,839 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: we were saying, you know what, why don't we go 88 00:06:37,600 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: take a cruise somewhere and this we didn't do this 89 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 1: for our wedding, but around you know, when we were 90 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: around that period of time, we decided to take a 91 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:55,520 Speaker 1: cruise down to Mexico, where we knew they had cheap jewelry, 92 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 1: and so we said, let's buy our wedding rings and 93 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: Mexico and so, because you know, you're going to save 94 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: a lot of money down there. So sure enough, we 95 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 1: took this cruise down to Mexico and Lauren, who has 96 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: aged very well. By the way, Lauren and I we 97 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:26,680 Speaker 1: got off of the ship and we walked into the 98 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 1: town of en Sonata, which was at that time, it 99 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 1: was it was creepy. I'll just be honest with you. 100 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: I mean it was weird because I mean maybe it 101 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 1: was just a time of day or something, but there 102 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: weren't that many people around. And Lauren and I we've 103 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:48,720 Speaker 1: never been the kind of people to kind of like 104 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: hang out with the crowd. I mean, we always wanted 105 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 1: to go do our own thing, and so we separated 106 00:07:55,720 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: and we just went exploring on our own, and in retrospect, 107 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: that was possibly not the smartest thing to do. I 108 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 1: don't know. There was just like an eerie stillness about 109 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: the town. But here at some point, you know, we 110 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: went into this bar and there were all these locals there, 111 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 1: all of you know, a bunch of men, and they 112 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: looked at us. I mean it was literally one of 113 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: those like moments where the music stops and then everybody 114 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:28,240 Speaker 1: looks at you and you hear them, you know, and 115 00:08:28,960 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 1: we're just like, hey, guys, do you have any tequila? Boy, 116 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,200 Speaker 1: they did have some tequila, and I'm talking some good 117 00:08:36,360 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: tequila for a low price. So we were told don't 118 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 1: drink the water, so he had to drink the tequila. Well. Anyway, 119 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 1: as we explored the town, we ended up at one 120 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: point going into this little weird shop that was down 121 00:08:56,520 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 1: below the street. And when we walked into the shop, 122 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: I looked over and it was cluttered. It was a 123 00:09:05,880 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: very very low ceiling, super cluttered shop with all kinds 124 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: of crazy drinkets and things, and hanging on the wall 125 00:09:14,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: was this little figure. I would say it was maybe 126 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: a foot and a half figure, and it looked just 127 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: like a little mermaid. Well actually you could say it 128 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 1: looked like a little devil or a little devilish mermaid. 129 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: And it was to me, it was obvious that this 130 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: thing was was real and I'd never seen something like 131 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: that before. And so I was looking at this thing, 132 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: and I'm trying to communicate with the guy who owned 133 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: the shop, and he's telling me it's some kind of 134 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: mermaid or whatever. And I was just like, I want 135 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:59,079 Speaker 1: to buy that, and he says, no, no, he wouldn't 136 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,599 Speaker 1: sell it to me. I was just It's like, I 137 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,560 Speaker 1: didn't have that much money, but I just wanted to see. 138 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: You know, we're in Mexico. I don't know. So I go, well, 139 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: I want how much I've I'm I'm I'll pay you 140 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: whatever you want. You know, I just wanted to have 141 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: this creepy little thing hanging on the wall that looked 142 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:21,199 Speaker 1: like some kind of a creature there, and he would 143 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: not sell it to me. Turns out this is something 144 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: that is called a Jinny Hannover, and it's you will 145 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: occasionally see them, especially nowadays if you go to like 146 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 1: oddity stores and stuff. It's the carcass of array I 147 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: guess like a you know, like a like a sting 148 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:50,720 Speaker 1: ray or something, or a skate. They also call those 149 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 1: types of fish that has been modified by hand and 150 00:10:55,440 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: then dried, resulting in a mummified specimen intended to resemble 151 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: a fanciful fictional creature, like a demon or a dragon. 152 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: And this goes all the way back to the sixteenth 153 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:15,120 Speaker 1: century when these specimens were often sold as curiosities to 154 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: sailors and collectors. We're coming up on a break here. 155 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 1: If you don't okay, it's called a Jenny hannover j 156 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: E N N y h A N I V E R. 157 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: When we come back, i'll tell you why it is 158 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: supposedly call that and how this connects to the whole 159 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: like mermaid legend leading into what's called gaffes. And you know, 160 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 1: I have a heck of a personal collection at this 161 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: point in my life. I'm trying to get rid of 162 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: some of it right now because I have too much stuff. 163 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: But you know the Fiji Mermaid, surely you know what 164 00:11:56,800 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: the Fiji Mermaid is. 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I am your host, the Wizard of Weird, 180 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren. Beat me into your wormhole brain from 181 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: my studio in Sencity, Las Vegas, Nevada, where every day 182 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 1: is golden and every night is silver Agietato Zoo Mane. 183 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:59,840 Speaker 1: I was told if you're gonna go looking for gold 184 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: and silver jewelry, especially from a street, then to bring 185 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 1: a magnet because gold and silver do not stick to 186 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:12,160 Speaker 1: magnets and if they sell you something that will stick 187 00:14:12,200 --> 00:14:16,280 Speaker 1: to a magnet, it's not legit. It's not the real thing. 188 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:19,160 Speaker 1: So there's a tip for you if you did not 189 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: know that. So yeah, I mean, we go into this 190 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: creepy little shop and here's this thing hanging on the wall. 191 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: A Genny Hannover guy would not sell it to me. 192 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: It was just like Gremlins. I did end up buying 193 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: a really cool hat from there, and I think I 194 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: bought a marionette as well. I'm sure that's one of 195 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: my storage units. When I find that thing, I'm keeping it. 196 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: But yeah, a Jenny Hannover. Now they say that it's 197 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:57,360 Speaker 1: believed it comes from the French phrase and I don't 198 00:14:57,400 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: speak French, but something like jum dion verse, which is 199 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: a youth of Antwerp, and that British sailors cock neyed 200 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: this description into the personal name Jenny Hannover. I was like, okay, 201 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 1: well what does that even mean? And so uh jung 202 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:27,520 Speaker 1: dianoverb young of young of Antwerp was described. Uh let's 203 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,720 Speaker 1: see was used to describe these modified ray carcasses that 204 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 1: resembled human like creatures because they looked like young people 205 00:15:36,880 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 1: and apparently some of these were very popular around Antwerp. Okay, 206 00:15:48,640 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 1: when you start digging into words, you get into the 207 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: weirdest stuff, don't you. And so he says, here these 208 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:02,200 Speaker 1: things they have been created to look like various mythical creatures, devils, angels, dragons. 209 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: The most common misconception was that jenny Hanivers were basilisks. Okay, 210 00:16:11,920 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 1: so it says. Basilisks were creatures that killed with merely 211 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: a glance, and no one could claim to know what 212 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 1: one looks like. For this reason, it was easy to 213 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: pass off Jenny Hannivers as these creatures in the sixteenth century. 214 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: So I was like, okay, let's look at this bascialists. 215 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: In European legends, the basilisks is a legendary reptile reputed 216 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: to be a serpent king who causes death to those 217 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: who look into its eyes. Sorry for my rough voice. 218 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: The allergens this time of year here in Vegas are 219 00:16:53,960 --> 00:17:01,080 Speaker 1: at an extreme high. According to Pliny the Elder, the 220 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: basclisk of Syreene is a small snake not more than 221 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,919 Speaker 1: twelve inches in length, but so venomous. It leaves a 222 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: wide trail of deadly venom in its path, and its 223 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: gaze is likewise lethal. You know, it's funny you hear 224 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: about Pliny the Elder sometimes, who is this guy? Pliny 225 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:25,679 Speaker 1: the Elder was this Roman author and naturalist who lived 226 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: about two thousand years ago. He was also a commander 227 00:17:30,760 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: in the Empire there and he wrote this encyclopedic thing 228 00:17:37,240 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: called the naturalis Historia or Natural History, a thirty seven 229 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,800 Speaker 1: volume work that covered a vast array of topics on 230 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,639 Speaker 1: human knowledge in the natural world, which became an editorial 231 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: model for encyclopedias. He was only about fifty five fifty 232 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 1: six when he died, and he died when Mount Vesuvius exploded, 233 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:13,320 Speaker 1: and apparently his I guess his son, Planning the Younger, 234 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,880 Speaker 1: witnessed this. I don't know if you look. You can 235 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: look all this stuff up on your own if you're 236 00:18:19,480 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: that interested. But regardless, I never forgot seeing this, and 237 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: it made me very interested in the whole history of 238 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 1: these things, because this is basically what we would consider 239 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:40,199 Speaker 1: to be a gaff. So a gaff is something you 240 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 1: might see in a sideshow these days. It's a fake 241 00:18:48,440 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 1: monstrosity of some kind. So common examples will be, like, 242 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 1: you know, jackalopes, the furry trout, some of these things 243 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, they call it pickled punks, and these are 244 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: you know, taxidermy things that people put together. And if 245 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,680 Speaker 1: you wonder, like, you know, well, why is it called 246 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: a side show gaff. It's because that gaff is actually 247 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: the name of a hook, like like literally a hook 248 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: that fishermen would use. And so the idea was that 249 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: you'd create a sideshow gaff as a fabricated or fake 250 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: exhibit displayed at a circus or a carnival with taxidermy 251 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: or whatever to hook people into the attraction. And that's 252 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,440 Speaker 1: why you get these things. And of course the king 253 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 1: of gaffs was. 254 00:19:58,760 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 2: P. T. 255 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: Barnum, and of his most famous was the Fiji Mermaid. 256 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: Similar to what I've been talking about, the Fiji Mermaid. 257 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: They're all over the place now I have one in 258 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: my collection. Of course, the Fiji Mermaid was like the 259 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:20,879 Speaker 1: Fiji Mermaid that Barnum had, was an object composed of 260 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: the torso and head of a juvenile monkey sewn to 261 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 1: the back half of a fish. These things were common 262 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: features of side shows back in the day, presented as 263 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: the mummified body of a creature that was supposedly half 264 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:42,639 Speaker 1: mammal and half fish. A version of a mermaid. The 265 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 1: original had fish scills with animal hair superimposed on Its body, 266 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: had some breasts, mouth was wide open with teeth beard. 267 00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:59,440 Speaker 1: The right hand was against the right cheek. Apparently. Barnum 268 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: in his autobiography described the thing that he made famous 269 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: as a Fiji mermaid's quote and ugly, dried up, black looking, 270 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 1: diminutive specimen, about three feet long. Its mouth was open, 271 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: its tail turned over, and its arms thrown up, giving 272 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:25,440 Speaker 1: it the appearance of having died in great agony end quote. 273 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: Now there were people who were selling so called Fiji 274 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: mermaids before then. I mean there was an American sea 275 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:41,320 Speaker 1: captain named Samuel Barrett Eads who bought Barnum's mermaid from 276 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: Japanese sailors supposedly in eighteen twenty two for six thousand dollars, 277 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 1: and then said he used the money from the ship's 278 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: account and then turned around and gave it to Barnum. 279 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: Interesting how that, you know, people they think of Barnum 280 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: as being a guy who said there's a sucker born 281 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 1: every minute, but he never actually said that. That was 282 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:14,040 Speaker 1: something that was said about him by a reporter or 283 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 1: a writer of some newspaper at the time. Who was 284 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: kind of criticizing him. They say that Barnum didn't really 285 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:28,160 Speaker 1: view his patrons as as suckers, that he just thought 286 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: that they wanted to be entertained, and it was kind 287 00:22:30,560 --> 00:22:32,959 Speaker 1: of like an inside joke that he was pulling their 288 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 1: leg and they wanted to have their legs pulled. Well anyway, 289 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: this only worked, of course, because people have actually believed 290 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:49,359 Speaker 1: that there may have been real mermaids. So what the 291 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: heck is a mermaid? Where does this come from? And folklore? 292 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: A mermaid is an aquatic creature with the head and 293 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: upper body of a female human and the tale of 294 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: a fish. And they appear in the folklore of many 295 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: cultures Europe, Latin America, Asia, Africa, and sometimes they're associated 296 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: with perilous events, storms, shipwrecks, drownings. You know, they're ominous. 297 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 1: They can be benevolent and benefficient, or sometimes you know, 298 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 1: they fall in love with humans. It's kind of all 299 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: over the place. And of course we do have the merman, 300 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: not as famous as the murr maid, but it says 301 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: when you start looking into it here the Western concept 302 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: of mermaids is beautiful, seductive. Singers may have been influenced 303 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: by the sirens of Greek mythology, which were originally half 304 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: birdlike but came to be pictured as a half fish like. 305 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: In the Christian era, there have been rational attempts to 306 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: try to explain mermaids, sometimes even before five point forty 307 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:07,479 Speaker 1: six PC. This philosopher said that maybe the idea of 308 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: mermaids had sprung from aquatic animal species that looked bizarre 309 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:22,080 Speaker 1: or were deformed. People have obviously said that sailors they 310 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,640 Speaker 1: get out to see, they start getting a little looney, 311 00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:32,879 Speaker 1: they start drinking, they see manatees, do goongs, seals? Is 312 00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: there any real evidence though, of mermaids? And when we 313 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:43,240 Speaker 1: come back, I'll get I'll dig a little bit deeper 314 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:48,680 Speaker 1: into that, and then I'll tell you about another gaff 315 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 1: that I ung. That's pretty darn cool. I like the 316 00:24:53,680 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 1: story of it anyway. And you know, I don't try 317 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 1: to pull people's legs. I tell them if it's a 318 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,000 Speaker 1: gaff or not. How about you know it's just fun stuff. 319 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua pe Warren. If you're listening to strange things 320 00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: on the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 321 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: podcast network, And I'll be back after these important messages 322 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Strange Things on the iHeart Radio and 323 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 1: Coast to Coast AM para normal podcast network. I'm your host, 324 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:06,440 Speaker 1: Joshua P. Warren, and this is the show where the 325 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:14,000 Speaker 1: unusual becomes usual. Here's an interesting theory. There are some 326 00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 1: historians and such who believe that maybe the legend of 327 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: the Mermaid began with human women who were trained over 328 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 1: time to be skilled divers for things like sponges and 329 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: spent a lot of time in the sea as a result. 330 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: Some people like this British author William Bond apparently has 331 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 1: written several books about it. Do you remember when that 332 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: movie ca that fake documentary came out on Discovery Channel 333 00:26:55,119 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: in twenty twelve, I think? And what was that thing called? 334 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,920 Speaker 1: Let me look it up real quick, Mermaid documentary? Oh yeah, 335 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:18,840 Speaker 1: Mermaid Mermaids the Body Found Yeah, twenty eleven. And okay, okay, 336 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 1: so no, I'm sorry, there's another one, Mermaids. Yeah, okay, 337 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 1: Mermaids the Body Found. It came out an Animal Planet 338 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: and Netflix around like our the Discovery Channel and then 339 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: later Netflix. Oh and I can't believe it's been that 340 00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 1: long ago, but yeah, I mean they put out kind 341 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: of like a mockumentary like a a fake documentary about 342 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: proof of mermaids and people. A lot of people believed it. 343 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: A lot of people believe that that was real when 344 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: it came out. Pseudo documentary Let's See It originally aired 345 00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: on in America on Animal Planet May of twenty twelve 346 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,160 Speaker 1: and then Discovery Channel June of twenty twelve. But look, 347 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 1: there is no evidence that mermaids have ever existed that 348 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: I've seen. I'd love to be proven wrong. But if 349 00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: you see a mermaid on a shelf, like a Fiji 350 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: mermaid or whatever I mean at this point, I would 351 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: if I were a betting man and I am, I 352 00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: would say it's fake. It's a gaff. It's fun. Now. 353 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: You can, on the other hand, get something else that 354 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: I have in my collection, a monkey's paw, whether it 355 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: is real or fake. A monkey's paw is a hand. Now, 356 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 1: don't worry like sometimes people say you have monkey pipe, 357 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 1: I have a monkey's skull. But look, he died of 358 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: natural causes. I did not kill a monkey, and I'm 359 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 1: sure you didn't kill that chicken that you ate yesterday. 360 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:12,080 Speaker 1: The monkeys Paul is often produced as a gaff, and 361 00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 1: this is one that I specially like in my collection 362 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:22,400 Speaker 1: because it has this amazing connection to the idea of 363 00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: magic and manifestation. It goes back to a horror short 364 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: story written by an English author named W. W. Jacobs, 365 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: and it first appeared in the publication called Harper's Monthly 366 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: in September of nineteen o two, and it's been adapted 367 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: numerous times. Yeah, a spoiler here you go. I'm just 368 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: going to try to give you the overview in a 369 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 1: nutshell if you don't know this already. So it starts 370 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: with these people I guess they're are Americans, mister and 371 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: Missus White, and they're grown up so named Herbert, and 372 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: they're visited by a British Man, Sergeant Major Morris, friend 373 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: of theirs. He served the British Army in India, and 374 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 1: during dinner he introduces them to a mummified monkey's paw 375 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: and he explains how an old faker or an old 376 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,600 Speaker 1: mystic or whatever they're in India had placed a spell 377 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:28,600 Speaker 1: on the paw so that it will grant three wishes, 378 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:37,040 Speaker 1: but only with hellish consequences as punishment for tampering with fate. Now, 379 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: Morris had had horrible experience, you know, like using the paw. 380 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,080 Speaker 1: So he just threw it into the fire. But the 381 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: skeptical host there, mister White, says no, no, don't do that, 382 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: and he retrieves it. And so before leaving, Morris warrens 383 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 1: mister White of what might happen should he use the paw, 384 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 1: And you know, hesitates at first, thinking he already has 385 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: everything he wants. But then he says, you know what 386 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: if I had two hundred pounds, okay, so I guess 387 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: these were not Americans. I guess these were all English people. 388 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 1: Mister White says, if I had two hundred pounds, I 389 00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: can make the final mortgage payment on the house. And 390 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 1: then he suddenly drops the paw, saying it moved and 391 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: twisted like a snake. And the following day his son, Herbert, 392 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: left for work, and that night a representative of Herbert's 393 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:40,239 Speaker 1: employer arrives at their home and says, well, Herbert has 394 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: been killed in a terrible accident that mutilated his body. 395 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 1: But here is a payment of two hundred pounds. Right. 396 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:55,800 Speaker 1: So a week after the funeral, missus White, he was 397 00:31:56,080 --> 00:32:00,280 Speaker 1: very very grief stricken, says to her husband, you use 398 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:05,040 Speaker 1: the paw to bring Herbert back to life. He doesn't 399 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:11,840 Speaker 1: want to, but he does, and he sure enough makes 400 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: the wish, summoning his son's mutilated and decomposing body. And 401 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: later that night, there's a knock at the door, and 402 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: as Missus White fumbles at the locks in a desperate 403 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 1: attempt to open the door, mister White becomes terrified and 404 00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: fears the thing outside is not the son he loved, 405 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 1: and so he makes his third and final wish and 406 00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 1: the knocking stops and Missus White opens the door and 407 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: finds no one is there. Kind of a pet cemetery 408 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: type thing, right, that you don't want to bring back 409 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: to dead because they're not ever going to be the same. 410 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 1: And this is what those cautionary tells. Sometimes dead is 411 00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: better because because you know, the idea is like, okay, 412 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,120 Speaker 1: be careful what you wish for because it might happen 413 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:19,560 Speaker 1: but not the way you want it to. And that 414 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: happens in Leprechaun stories all the time as well. It's like, okay, 415 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: you get the wishes and uh, you know it's a trap. 416 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: And there are people who contact me all the time 417 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 1: and they say, do you think that it's right to 418 00:33:40,000 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: sell wishing machines and all these kind of manifestation devices 419 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: that you have in the Curiosity Shop at Joshua P. 420 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: Warren dot com. Because I mean, it's like, sometimes if 421 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: something's too good to be true, it is. And if 422 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: I can just make a wish and it'll come true, 423 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: what if I have a price to pay? And I 424 00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I deal with this all the time, and 425 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: I always think about these stories, and I'm like, I 426 00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:10,200 Speaker 1: know what you're saying, but that does not apply to 427 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 1: wishing machines and similar manifestation devices if you actually know 428 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: what you are doing. Because the things that I have produced, 429 00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 1: that I experiment with, that I sell, they're different because 430 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 1: they can only produce positivity if that's what you put 431 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 1: in them. So it's for every action, there's an opposite 432 00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:42,239 Speaker 1: but equal reaction type of thing. So as long as 433 00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: you only put a positive intention into these things, then 434 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:50,760 Speaker 1: only positivity can come from them. So it is impossible 435 00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: with the things that I promote or whatever, it is 436 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 1: impossible for you to try to manifest something good that 437 00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,879 Speaker 1: then comes true via something bad. It's because that would 438 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:09,960 Speaker 1: defy the laws of karma or whatever you want to 439 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: call it. You know the laws of physics if you want. 440 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: And I'm always honest with people. You know, I live 441 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 1: here in Las Vegas. I know magicians. I'm friends with 442 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:26,600 Speaker 1: a lot of magicians, and I love doing magic tricks. 443 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: And it's like, you know, one time I did a 444 00:35:29,080 --> 00:35:33,040 Speaker 1: big event here and I hired a magician to go 445 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: around and entertain everybody. And I said, look, some of 446 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,680 Speaker 1: the people who come here. I mean, they might actually 447 00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: believe that what you're doing is real, because I was 448 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 1: doing a like a conference on like real magic, and 449 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: I said, I don't want these people to be misled. 450 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 1: So if you do a magic trick, I want you 451 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: to afterward, you know, explain that this was just a 452 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: magic trick. You don't have to explain how you did it, 453 00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 1: but just tell them it was a trick. And he said, okay, 454 00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,080 Speaker 1: I got it. And there was one time when I 455 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: threw a party here and I went up in front 456 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,399 Speaker 1: of a couple of very intelligent people and I took 457 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,799 Speaker 1: out a spoon and a fork and I did the 458 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,439 Speaker 1: whole uri geller like melting thing right before their eyes 459 00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 1: and laid it down in front of them, and they 460 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 1: were just like mind blown, and they thought I was 461 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: uri gellery. And as soon as I did it, I 462 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 1: said that was a trick, and I showed them how 463 00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:36,520 Speaker 1: to do the trick. So I don't mislead people. But 464 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 1: that would not be good for my reputation. If you know, here, 465 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: I am a guy who's talking about manifesting real magic, 466 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: and then I turn around and confuse you with some 467 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: magic trick. No, I don't do that. If I do 468 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: a magic trick as a parlor trick, then you know 469 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:53,920 Speaker 1: you'll learn about it. But when we come back from 470 00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: this break, I want to tell you something that I've 471 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: been playing around with that may be a part of 472 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: real magic. Real magic. It's very very simple. You can 473 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 1: do it for free. And also I have an email 474 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,720 Speaker 1: I want to read to you from a guy who 475 00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: says help help. I hate getting those kinds of emails 476 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: because I don't. I'm not the kind of guy who 477 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:30,240 Speaker 1: can help you. But well you'll see what I told him. 478 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,759 Speaker 1: I'm Joshua Pee Warren. You're listening to Strange Things on 479 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast. I am para normal 480 00:37:37,920 --> 00:38:17,759 Speaker 1: podcast network, and I will be right back. Welcome back 481 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: to the final segment of this edition of Strange Things 482 00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,720 Speaker 1: all the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast am Paranormal Podcast Network. 483 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:32,480 Speaker 1: I am your host, Joshua P. Warren, and I'm holding 484 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 1: something in my hands right now that is quite impressive. 485 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,040 Speaker 1: You have to understand something. Everybody thinks that I am 486 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: some optimist who just is always thinking super positively and 487 00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 1: manifest things. It's the opposite. I am a natural pessimist. 488 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:02,560 Speaker 1: I was born a pessimist, and believe it or not, 489 00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: I am more of an introvert than an extrovert. I 490 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: turned out opportunities all the time to get out there 491 00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:13,240 Speaker 1: and interact and socialize. That is why I turned to 492 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: tools to help me learn magical manifestation skills, and that's 493 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,279 Speaker 1: how I kind of get past that. But you know, 494 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 1: I struggle all the time. That's why I'm always coming 495 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: up with new things that work for me. And that's 496 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 1: why if you go to my curiosity shop, everything that 497 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,680 Speaker 1: you're going to find there is a tool that has 498 00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:38,920 Speaker 1: worked for me. And so you know, there's not a 499 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 1: lot there, very limited stuff, but I mean, these are 500 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 1: things that have helped me, and so I think maybe 501 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: they'll help you. Well. I was at Barnes and Noble recently, 502 00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,040 Speaker 1: and Barnes and Noble, this is not a sponsorship thing. 503 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,280 Speaker 1: I have no relationship with Barnes and Noble. They should, 504 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 1: they should sponsor this show. That'd be a good match. 505 00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: My first real job working hourly wage was I was sixteen, 506 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: I guess, and I worked at Beadalton bookseller at the 507 00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:16,719 Speaker 1: Ashville Mall for a long time and I was just 508 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,960 Speaker 1: a clerk there. And I believe that Barnes and Noble 509 00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: bought them. And it's kind of the same thing. Anyway, 510 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,680 Speaker 1: Lauren and I here in Vegas. We were at Barnes 511 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: and Noble and I was walking through one of the 512 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,640 Speaker 1: areas and I looked over and there was this It 513 00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 1: looked at first I saw this box that kind of 514 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:40,080 Speaker 1: looked like a game, like some kind of board game, 515 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 1: and it says a complete Vision Board Kit Life Goals 516 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:52,319 Speaker 1: by Shanna Kennedy. And I don't know who Shanna Kennedy is, 517 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:56,919 Speaker 1: but she must be somebody impressive because she has this 518 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,920 Speaker 1: thing that I found in Barnes and Noble that I 519 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: bought for seventeen dollars. I don't even know how you 520 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: produce something like this for seventeen dollars, but it's a 521 00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,560 Speaker 1: it's called a vision board. I've heard about vision boards, 522 00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, for decades. And basically you open this thing 523 00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 1: up and it's got some corkboards in here, and it's 524 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 1: got some thumbtacks, and it has a bunch of very 525 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: nicely printed cards. And some of the cards have words, 526 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 1: and some of these are like playing card size. Some 527 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,320 Speaker 1: have words and some just have pictures. So for example, 528 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: one card might say I am strong, and then a 529 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,719 Speaker 1: picture would be like the silhouette of a lady or 530 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: a man looking into the the sunrise with arms outstretched 531 00:41:56,320 --> 00:42:00,239 Speaker 1: like yeah, you know, or then you know they're might 532 00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: be a card that says abundance or money comes in 533 00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,000 Speaker 1: unexpected ways. And then there's another card that just has 534 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 1: like a stack of gold coins. And so what you 535 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,839 Speaker 1: do is you take these pieces of cork and you 536 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,399 Speaker 1: just go through this big selection of cards and there 537 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,200 Speaker 1: I don't know how many cards are. There's probably like 538 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 1: a couple hundred cards. I don't know. Actually, what does 539 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:28,680 Speaker 1: it say? Says? Okay? Includes eighty cards, all right, well, 540 00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: forty eight page workbook, four cork tiles, thirty pins. And 541 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: what you do is you just get these pieces of 542 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:43,400 Speaker 1: cork and you just on a day to day basis 543 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:45,319 Speaker 1: or a week to week basis or whatever, you know, 544 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,960 Speaker 1: whatever your goals are. Obviously some things take longer to 545 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:52,080 Speaker 1: manifest than others. You get them and you just you 546 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: arrange images and words that reflect what you want to achieve. 547 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,360 Speaker 1: And for seventeen bucks, I just couldn't believe it. If 548 00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,239 Speaker 1: you have a Barnes and Noble near you, you know, 549 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,400 Speaker 1: maybe you can go check it out. It's probably online 550 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:12,880 Speaker 1: as well. But I love this because to me, like 551 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: this is the simplest form of manifestation magic it Honestly, 552 00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: I don't think that this is the fastest, most effective 553 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: and efficient form. I do believe that wishing machines and 554 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: tepaphones and things like that make things happen more quickly, 555 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: and I won't get into why that is right now, 556 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 1: but this is very simple, and you know, you can 557 00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: just do this on your own. Just get online, find 558 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,600 Speaker 1: images that represent what you want, find words that represent 559 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:50,160 Speaker 1: what you want. And I know you can put them 560 00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,880 Speaker 1: on your phone, and that's great, you should do that. 561 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 1: But also if you can print them out or whatever, 562 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,920 Speaker 1: then do that and you know, put them around, put 563 00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:02,080 Speaker 1: them around your house. And my book Used the Force 564 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,400 Speaker 1: talks about this kind of concept, and that book is 565 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 1: freely available to every single one of you right now 566 00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: in multiple languages as a PDF. If you go to 567 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 1: Joshua Pwarren dot com and you'll see the cover of 568 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,239 Speaker 1: the book and you can click on it and you 569 00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:22,360 Speaker 1: can download it in various forms. This is that's real magic, 570 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: staying focused. Like things that help you keep your mind 571 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: focused on what you want. And it can be good 572 00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:36,239 Speaker 1: or it can be bad. I got this email from 573 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,560 Speaker 1: a fella let's see here. Subject line is help. I go, 574 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,799 Speaker 1: Oh boy, here we go. He says, no kidding about this. 575 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: My family obviously has a curse on us. We are 576 00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:58,879 Speaker 1: also blessed as most all things that would kill our 577 00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: merely close halls. All right, interesting way to start. He 578 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,759 Speaker 1: goes on to say the curse seems to do to 579 00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:12,480 Speaker 1: date back to medieval times and suppresses any and all 580 00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 1: attempts to increase wealth through luck, hard work, legal loopholes, 581 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,800 Speaker 1: and sure things. No wealth at all. I've seen trends 582 00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:25,759 Speaker 1: change overnight. I've seen four no money card games. We 583 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: always win, just bet anything, and we always lose one 584 00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 1: hundred percent of the time. The curse is extremely probable, 585 00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: as my name is traced back including this castle. I 586 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,480 Speaker 1: won't give the name of the castle because it's got 587 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:47,120 Speaker 1: his name in it. This castle in Scotland to the 588 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: powerful Gordon clan in Norway. I'm thinking we may have 589 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:58,440 Speaker 1: angered Merlin to an extreme degree reference to the sitcom 590 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:02,080 Speaker 1: Monstrous episode about Herman and the Nothin' Muffin kind of 591 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 1: like that. So I need a powerful witch that may 592 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:09,920 Speaker 1: be over maybe able to overcome this issue. The search 593 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:15,759 Speaker 1: engines are giving me nothing, the closer the better due 594 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,680 Speaker 1: to a money travel situation. And then he gives me 595 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 1: some info on his location. Thank you, and his name 596 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:31,960 Speaker 1: is Tom Well, I wrote Tom back, and I know 597 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,880 Speaker 1: and I do get these these emails more often than 598 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:40,440 Speaker 1: you think, where people are like, I'm cursed and here's 599 00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:44,600 Speaker 1: what you do. I did a whole podcast about this. 600 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:50,600 Speaker 1: It's episode eighty one. If you go to Strange thingsshow 601 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: dot com, you'll see links to different platforms where you 602 00:46:55,640 --> 00:47:00,880 Speaker 1: can listen to different shows. Find episode eighty one and 603 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: that episode is called if You Are Cursed. Listen to 604 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:09,560 Speaker 1: that and that will give you, uh, not only my 605 00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:15,000 Speaker 1: thoughts on curses, but also some specific individuals that you 606 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,640 Speaker 1: can contact if you want. You know, people who are 607 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: experts in that I'm just a dude with a microphone 608 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:27,000 Speaker 1: who does a podcast. I some people have a calling 609 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 1: to be help helpful and to be like therapists and ministers, 610 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,160 Speaker 1: and I'm just not. You know, I don't have that calling, 611 00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,920 Speaker 1: but that's what you do if you need help with that. 612 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna end with a quick piece of mental manner. 613 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,320 Speaker 1: Superhero movie that has the song pick up the Pieces 614 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:54,839 Speaker 1: Dead Letna Dead Lenna dea Lenna. You know it Superman 615 00:47:54,960 --> 00:48:01,160 Speaker 1: Too with Christopher Reeve. I love it because that's the scene, 616 00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:05,840 Speaker 1: or that's part of the that it happens in the 617 00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:10,200 Speaker 1: diner when Superman gets his butt kicked and he bleeds 618 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: for the first time, and uh, it's so funny. You know, 619 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:19,760 Speaker 1: Superman gives up his powers to be with Lois Lane 620 00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:22,840 Speaker 1: so he can make love to her, and I go like, 621 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: I don't need to see this. I was a kid, 622 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I don't need to see that. I 623 00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:29,520 Speaker 1: still don't need to see that as a man. So 624 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:36,400 Speaker 1: he gets his butt kicked and they're playing in the movie, 625 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:39,760 Speaker 1: and then of course he gets his powers back, and 626 00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:43,320 Speaker 1: so there you go, mental manner. The clock's about to 627 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 1: get us. You know what to do? Take a deep breath. 628 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,680 Speaker 1: If you can't close your eyes, here is the good 629 00:48:49,719 --> 00:49:16,640 Speaker 1: Fortune tongue. That's it for this edition of the show. 630 00:49:16,760 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: Follow me at Joshua P. Warren. Plus visit joshuapwarren dot 631 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,880 Speaker 1: com to sign up for my free e newsletter to 632 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,799 Speaker 1: receive a free instant gift, and check out the cool 633 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,320 Speaker 1: stuff in the Curiosity Shop. All at Joshuapwarren dot com. 634 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 1: I have a fun one lined up for you next time, 635 00:49:36,239 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: I promise, So please tell all your friends to subscribe 636 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:44,520 Speaker 1: to this show and to always remember the Golden Rule. 637 00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,360 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening, Thank you for your interest and support. 638 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,279 Speaker 1: Thank you for staying curious, and I will talk to 639 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: you again soon. 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