WEBVTT - Egg Freezing: What to Expect w/ Stefanie Black & Lindsey Kraft 0:00:02.640 --> 0:00:05.520 Welcome to Katie's Crib, a production of Shonda land Audio 0:00:05.600 --> 0:00:09.840 in partnership with I Heart Radio. I held Steph's hands 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:13.239 as she's getting an internal examination, and the doctors like, 0:00:13.320 --> 0:00:16.279 every Wow, you have such a beautiful uterus, and I'm like, 0:00:16.400 --> 0:00:28.040 doesn't she? Hi, everybody, and welcome back to Katie's Crib. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:33.199 I really wanted to do an episode about egg freezing. 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.920 Egg freezing is this incredible method which gives you the 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:40.680 ability to make any and all decisions in your future 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.880 about getting pregnant using a surrogate. I mean, just giving 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:49.560 you tons and tons of options. So, guys, I don't 0:00:49.600 --> 0:00:52.400 even know how to begin, because this episode is two 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:56.320 of my bestest, greatest, closest girlfriends of my entire history 0:00:56.320 --> 0:00:59.840 of my life, Stephanie Black and Lindsay Graft. Stephanie Black 0:00:59.840 --> 0:01:02.360 and I went to NY you together. We lived together 0:01:02.520 --> 0:01:04.720 in London. We moved out to l a around the 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:07.600 same time. She is my soul sister. We started and 0:01:07.680 --> 0:01:10.680 run a theater company together. I am a theater company. 0:01:10.760 --> 0:01:13.280 And then Lindsay Kraft and I met in New York 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:16.479 City a hundred thousand years ago, just auditioning for commercials 0:01:16.560 --> 0:01:19.440 and not making it, and guess what she introduced me 0:01:19.520 --> 0:01:25.119 to my husband. We talked about egg freezing, when, where, how, why, 0:01:25.280 --> 0:01:29.800 fertility specialists, consultations, what are they like, medications, what's the 0:01:29.880 --> 0:01:33.039 procedure like? We held hands and walked through it, and 0:01:33.080 --> 0:01:36.160 I learned a lot about egg freezing just through them 0:01:36.200 --> 0:01:38.560 being their besties. So I wanted to have them on 0:01:38.640 --> 0:01:40.039 to talk about it so you know a little bit 0:01:40.080 --> 0:01:43.199 more about them personally. Lindsay Kraft is an actress, model, writer. 0:01:43.720 --> 0:01:46.000 She is known for playing Alison on Grace and Frankie. 0:01:46.360 --> 0:01:51.160 Lindsay's film credits are Epic Movie, Nostalgia, Futile, and Stupid Gesture, 0:01:51.280 --> 0:01:53.480 and as for TV, she's also appeared on vat, Grays 0:01:53.480 --> 0:01:56.960 and Frankie, Two Broke Girls, so many others. Stephanie Black 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.560 is an actress, writer, director. She's a founding member and 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:01.480 court a stick director of By In the Theater Company 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.320 With Me. She's also an acting coaching on the faculty 0:02:04.320 --> 0:02:08.359 of John Rosenfeld Studios. She has appeared on This Is Us, Scandal, Graves, Anatomy, 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:12.600 Private Practice, and so many freaking more. Lindsay, Stephanie, Welcome 0:02:12.639 --> 0:02:16.880 to Katie's Crib. Thank you guys, My goodness, do I 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:25.320 love you both? This is huge. This is one of 0:02:25.320 --> 0:02:30.919 the biggest things for women starting in their late twenties 0:02:31.440 --> 0:02:33.960 to get real. And this was an option that like 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:36.600 our parents didn't have and wasn't like a hot topic. 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.320 I feel like, I feel like I never heard about 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.480 this from like my mom or anything like that. Steph, 0:02:42.240 --> 0:02:46.280 When and why did you start to entertain the idea 0:02:46.360 --> 0:02:50.640 of freezing your eggs? I think when I turned thirty 0:02:51.080 --> 0:02:55.959 my amazing oh b G. I n Drriana Walden, who's 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.400 like the Gift of Los Angeles. She asked if I 0:02:59.480 --> 0:03:01.800 had thought it out it or maybe I had asked 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.079 about it. Um. I like to have all the information, 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.400 so I was like, I want to know everything. We 0:03:07.440 --> 0:03:11.560 started that conversation and I kept, you know, putting it off, saying, well, 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:14.560 I'll revisit it, you know, at thirty two, and then 0:03:14.560 --> 0:03:17.120 I'll revisited at thirty five. And I kept thinking, I 0:03:17.160 --> 0:03:20.280 will figure it out when when it's ready, or I'll 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:22.000 meet the person and I won't need to And I 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.440 kept hoping, like I'm going to meet my prince Charmaine 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:26.799 or whatever, and then I won't have to do it. 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:28.800 And so I pushed it and pushed it and pushed it, 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:31.200 and at thirty five is when I started really thinking 0:03:31.200 --> 0:03:34.960 about it. And then I met my now husband, and 0:03:35.040 --> 0:03:37.040 so I kind of put it to the back burner. 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:39.960 But about a year and a half into our relationship, 0:03:40.480 --> 0:03:43.920 we broke up for a hot second, and that is 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:46.440 when I said, Okay, I have to do this right now, 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:50.360 and UM put everything into motion and we actually ended 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:53.920 up getting back together. And now you're fucking pregnant. Oh 0:03:53.960 --> 0:03:56.400 and now I'm pregnant and I haven't used the eggs. 0:03:56.920 --> 0:03:59.360 That's a whole other car look at back to that. 0:03:59.440 --> 0:04:02.400 But yeah, gonna get back to that. Okay, Lindsay Kraft, 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:06.200 why did you decide to freeze your eggs? I feel 0:04:06.200 --> 0:04:08.560 like I kept hearing about it for a long time, 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:10.520 and I remember the first time I heard about it, 0:04:10.640 --> 0:04:14.680 I was like who. Like, I was like, that seems 0:04:14.760 --> 0:04:17.719 like weird, and like for other people like that just 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:20.560 doesn't seem like. It just seemed like, how have I 0:04:20.600 --> 0:04:24.080 gotten this old? I just seemed weird. And you know, 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:26.680 I never was one of those people who was like 0:04:26.720 --> 0:04:29.960 I must have children. It just never seemed like something 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:34.920 I was definitely gonna do. But at the same time options, 0:04:34.960 --> 0:04:38.279 baby options, I mean, And so I kept kind of 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.760 putting it off for for so long because but I 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:44.920 would feel so much anxiety about it that I basically 0:04:44.920 --> 0:04:48.080 did it to just reduce the anxiety that I was feeling, 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:51.800 which is fucking huge. I remember my O B was 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:54.200 definitely like, hey, do you want to consider freezing? How 0:04:54.240 --> 0:04:56.200 far off do you think you are from having a baby? 0:04:56.200 --> 0:04:58.120 And I was like, like really far. I was like, 0:04:58.240 --> 0:05:02.200 I've not even entertaining the idea, like i just started 0:05:02.240 --> 0:05:04.560 to be able to pay my bills from acting, like 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.600 I don't. I have a lot of life. I don't 0:05:06.640 --> 0:05:08.440 want to do that right now. And she was like, Okay, 0:05:08.440 --> 0:05:11.599 I think you should consider freezing your eggs. And I 0:05:11.640 --> 0:05:15.760 did get that you get a blood test. I guess first, right, 0:05:16.279 --> 0:05:17.800 you get a blood test. But the thing about this 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:20.440 blood test because it tests your I want to say 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.360 this right MH level, which is basically your egg reserve. 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:25.560 But the thing about this, and I remember because I 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:27.520 kept asking, I'm like, should I just test that now? 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.240 And every time she would say, you only want to 0:05:30.279 --> 0:05:32.400 test it when you're ready to do it, because it 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:35.440 only gives you information for like that day, and like 0:05:35.480 --> 0:05:38.920 a week later, totally different number. Interesting because I remember 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:41.279 getting that blood test and it coming back like your 0:05:41.320 --> 0:05:44.640 eggs suck. And I was like, oh, ship, like this 0:05:44.720 --> 0:05:47.520 is really scary. But I ended up doing nothing about it, 0:05:47.600 --> 0:05:50.840 and and we ended up trying starting to try to 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.000 have a family earlier than I had originally said. But Steph, 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:57.840 how did you find a doctor to freeze your eggs with? 0:05:58.200 --> 0:06:00.520 Because it's not an O B right, No it's not. No, 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.760 it's a it's a fertility specialist. Okay. So I started 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.839 with my doctor. She gave me a bunch of pamphlets, 0:06:06.880 --> 0:06:08.479 a bunch of places, and she had actually done it 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:11.200 and had been very open about that with me, and 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:12.880 so she said this is where I went. But she 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:15.040 said this is potentially could be on the higher end 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:18.600 cost wise, you know. I was all like, I'm very frugal. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.400 I was very much like, what's the least amount of 0:06:21.400 --> 0:06:24.200 money I can spend to get the highest impact? Well, 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:29.040 it's insane. How much does egg freezing cost in the ballpark? Craft? 0:06:29.080 --> 0:06:31.960 Do you know? I think you remember? Because there's so 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:36.480 many separate like additional prices and just like and at first, 0:06:36.240 --> 0:06:40.520 I like, my mom offered to chip in my partner 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.320 offered to chip in, but I was kind of like, 0:06:42.680 --> 0:06:44.200 I just kind of want to do this on my own. 0:06:44.279 --> 0:06:47.440 And yeah, I think also freezing the eggs and also 0:06:47.560 --> 0:06:49.240 do you want to do embryos is like a whole 0:06:49.240 --> 0:06:51.719 other thing. I think it's from like twelve thousand to 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.440 twenty thousand or something, right, Yeah, twelve to fifteen is 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.919 where I feel like it really sits in it it 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:02.000 all honestly, it all to ends on like your ovaries 0:07:02.040 --> 0:07:04.720 and like how sleepy they are and like how how 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.039 what it takes to like wake up your follicles. Yeah, 0:07:08.080 --> 0:07:11.120 because some people have to do multiple retrievals, right, I 0:07:11.240 --> 0:07:14.040 was like, there's no way I'm doing multiple retrievals. I 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:16.040 was like, I'll get what I get and call it 0:07:16.080 --> 0:07:19.800 a day. Like, no way. I was sort of just 0:07:19.840 --> 0:07:22.680 like expecting to get just a couple of eggs. I 0:07:22.720 --> 0:07:24.640 think I was pleased at the end of the day 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:26.200 what I what I had gotten, because I thought it 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.400 would be less. But I think I remember during the 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:30.480 process in the beginning, I was kind of like, oh, well, 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.440 there's not a lot there, Okay. I wish I had 0:07:33.520 --> 0:07:36.560 known earlier, but I didn't have the money to get 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.360 it then, So it's like this weird thing that I 0:07:38.880 --> 0:07:42.160 wish somehow. I know there are some places that are, 0:07:42.200 --> 0:07:45.160 you know, offering it through returns, but I just, you know, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:47.240 because I would have been so much better off if 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.440 I sort of just did it in my early twenties, 0:07:49.600 --> 0:07:51.280 because that's when you have the most eggs, and it's 0:07:51.280 --> 0:07:53.320 sort of like you're doing it. You're doing this really 0:07:53.360 --> 0:07:55.960 expensive thing later in your life because you're starting to 0:07:56.000 --> 0:07:58.400 feel like, oh now I feel like there's anyone who 0:07:58.400 --> 0:08:00.160 I talked to who has the money. I'm like, just 0:08:00.280 --> 0:08:02.840 do it. It's a couple of weeks of your life, 0:08:02.840 --> 0:08:04.680 and then you're done, and then you don't have to 0:08:04.680 --> 0:08:07.320 think about it. I mean, it's like a joke, but 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:09.360 it's like the minute I met her, but like very 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:11.360 soon when Sean and I became friends, she was like, 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:14.160 what's your deal? Are you waiting at all? Actually, it 0:08:14.200 --> 0:08:16.880 doesn't even matter. You should just freeze your eggs right now, 0:08:16.960 --> 0:08:20.200 because the younger you are, the more chance you have 0:08:20.240 --> 0:08:23.240 of getting more eggs, which gives you more options. And 0:08:23.280 --> 0:08:25.160 like that's at the end of the day, what we're 0:08:25.160 --> 0:08:28.760 trying to give ourselves, right, like more options to make decisions. 0:08:29.000 --> 0:08:32.880 When we want to versus being have to. Basically, this 0:08:32.960 --> 0:08:36.160 is a very expensive insurance policy. You're paying a lot 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:39.440 of money for peace of mind for time, but it's 0:08:39.440 --> 0:08:42.040 so worth it. I mean I would have done this 0:08:42.480 --> 0:08:46.840 at thirty if I had really understood the emotional like 0:08:47.360 --> 0:08:49.920 toil that it would take on you. I did it 0:08:49.920 --> 0:08:53.640 when I was thirty eight and knowing that I was 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.120 going to get less, and like then talking to friends 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:58.760 were younger who were like, oh, my level was like 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:01.960 two or something like some real crazy high number, and 0:09:01.960 --> 0:09:05.120 I was like, mine was like right below two. It 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:07.080 was like one point eight or something like your one 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:11.240 point nine. So crafty. How did you pick your fertility doctor? 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:14.360 I think you recommended her to me, actually, Caroline and Alexander, 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.240 who's amazing and was on this podcast and did a 0:09:17.280 --> 0:09:21.640 whole IVF episode. I'm at the opposite of you, Stephanie 0:09:21.679 --> 0:09:23.480 a little bit. I'm just kind of like, get me 0:09:23.559 --> 0:09:25.920 to one. I just want to, Like I don't want to, 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:28.000 I don't want to know about options. I just want 0:09:28.040 --> 0:09:30.720 to be directed to the best possible person. And I 0:09:30.760 --> 0:09:33.160 went to one woman and I sort of I was 0:09:33.200 --> 0:09:36.120 just like I think I had like a free consultation 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:38.480 because they're normally like three fifty dollars and you can 0:09:38.520 --> 0:09:41.080 sort of like pass that on. Like there are like 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.760 free certificates like everywhere. I feel like there are. I 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.120 paid like to hundred for each I went to three 0:09:47.120 --> 0:09:50.200 different places to meet them and I paid that each time. Yeah, 0:09:50.240 --> 0:09:52.520 that sucked, Carol, and I just felt a real connection 0:09:52.559 --> 0:09:55.120 to and I started to think that, like this is 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.800 a little bit magic. I mean life is crazy, right, 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:00.640 like the things that happened to make a life or 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:03.480 so nuts. The connection I had with her, She just 0:10:03.520 --> 0:10:06.760 made me feel really good, was very honest, but also 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:10.960 like hopeful. Everyone's different, and I felt like that I 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.200 had such a calm um experience with her that was 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:18.360 just like very loving and she was so wonderful. And 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:20.520 then I heard like such great stories about her after 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:24.000 through a bunch of other people, and I was like 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:29.160 so pleased with the whole experience. That's awesome. So what questions? 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:32.040 If you could both pick a question? Should a woman 0:10:32.200 --> 0:10:35.800 ask her doctor before egg freezing? Like when you're talking 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:39.160 to your fertility person, is there something you're really happy 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.760 you asked or something you wish you had asked and didn't. 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:49.080 I'll say this. I knew nothing about fertility, ovulation, the 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:51.440 whole process, and honestly, trying to get pregnant as well 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:54.360 was all quite shaming for me. I'm like to take 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:56.880 a pill and forget it kind of person. And I 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:00.400 went on birth control at eighteen, and I had not 0:11:00.520 --> 0:11:03.480 gone off birth control until the first time literally ever, 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.080 was when I froze my eggs. So that's do the math. 0:11:06.160 --> 0:11:09.760 I'm not great at math, so almost twenty years um 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.600 and so I had never really learned. I had never 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:16.680 felt really cramps ovulation. I didn't. I just didn't understand 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.680 any of it. And so when I went in and 0:11:18.960 --> 0:11:21.199 I think, I think Dr Peck, Allison Peck is who 0:11:21.200 --> 0:11:24.480 I went to at hr C Fertility, and you came 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:26.959 with me to that appointment. Oh my god, I'll never 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:30.520 forget it. I held Steph's hands as she's getting an 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:34.680 internal examination, and I'm so proud. The doctor's like, wow, 0:11:34.800 --> 0:11:37.480 you have such a beautiful uterus, and I'm like, doesn't 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:41.440 she did say that? Are I? In my head, the 0:11:41.520 --> 0:11:44.480 story goes that I was holding your hand and I 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:48.160 your husband, and who and me have seen the insides 0:11:48.440 --> 0:11:51.480 of your uterus very close up in an ultrasound. What 0:11:51.559 --> 0:11:54.920 I remember, though, is her telling me that she thinks 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:58.520 she sees my eggs because they were all asleep essentially, 0:11:58.520 --> 0:12:00.640 and she's like, you have suppressed over because you've been 0:12:00.679 --> 0:12:03.520 on birth control for you know, almost twenty years. And 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:06.720 I remember specifically asking my doctor from thirty to thirty 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.120 eight every time I'm like, is being on birth control 0:12:09.120 --> 0:12:11.760 going to affect my ability to get pregnant or freeze eggs? 0:12:12.000 --> 0:12:14.079 And she kept saying no, no, no, and it's not. 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.840 It's it's true that it doesn't, but it makes it harder. 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.280 It means you have to pump yourself with more drugs, 0:12:19.320 --> 0:12:22.280 which makes it more expensive. But you couldn't really tell 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:25.040 how many eggs I had in each ovary that would 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:28.640 potentially wake up. But all that stuff I knew nothing about. 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:31.040 So you wish you had known that. I wish I 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:33.080 would have known that, because I would have gone off 0:12:33.120 --> 0:12:35.120 of it for a bit. The good thing about being 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.720 on birth control was that I was able to say, 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:39.640 today's the day I want to do the eggs, like 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:43.600 start the process, and my cycle has already syncd up 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.640 because I'm on birth control. And normally they put you 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:47.960 on birth control to get that start date. So I 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.079 was basically like, I have a four week window here. 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:53.280 I have to do it here or it can't happen. 0:12:53.720 --> 0:12:55.640 And I was able to do it. I had no 0:12:55.679 --> 0:12:57.800 information about this. I knew nothing, Like we asked her 0:12:57.840 --> 0:13:00.240 to draw, like, she drew me a map of a 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:04.400 thirty day cycle and how ovulation works and fertility, and 0:13:04.720 --> 0:13:08.400 I felt so stupid, but I I liked her because 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:11.880 she was no bullshit. She wore a Louis Vuitton Fannie 0:13:11.880 --> 0:13:13.880 pack and she reminded me of kind of the mean 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:16.440 girls at summer camp, and I trusted that for some reason. 0:13:16.840 --> 0:13:18.880 And I was like, I was like, I know her, 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:23.680 like I knew her craft. What do you wish you 0:13:23.760 --> 0:13:27.079 had asked or did ask that you were happy that 0:13:27.120 --> 0:13:30.040 you got the information? You know, I was really confused 0:13:30.080 --> 0:13:33.480 about whether or not to do at freezing my eggs 0:13:33.600 --> 0:13:36.679 or freezing embryos. So for those people, you can either 0:13:36.720 --> 0:13:39.480 freeze your eggs by themselves, or you freeze your egg 0:13:39.600 --> 0:13:42.520 mixed in the petrie dish with the sperm of your 0:13:42.559 --> 0:13:46.200 donor or your partner or whatever. Supposedly, embryos have a 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:51.079 better chance of being able to impregnate you when you 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.880 use them, but you have to really like that person 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.960 or it's sort of that you know the next step already. 0:13:59.200 --> 0:14:02.120 That's really what it is. So I was like, I 0:14:02.160 --> 0:14:05.080 think that was my biggest truggle. But I realized for me, 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.199 why I wanted to do it was for my independence, 0:14:08.679 --> 0:14:11.000 and I didn't have enough eggs to be like, I'm 0:14:11.000 --> 0:14:13.920 going to do some embryos and some eggs. Otherwise it 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:15.440 just would have been like put me in the same 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.040 corner A been in. And by the way, I know 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.000 someone that only froze embryos and then was no longer 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:24.600 with that person and did not use them. So it's like, 0:14:25.480 --> 0:14:28.320 it's also pretty expensive to do the embryos, Like that's 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:31.160 an additional almost ten grand I think you do it 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:33.480 so you have to. It's a financial commitment, and it's 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:37.120 a commitment. I mean, Alex and I were not really together. 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:39.040 We were kind of starting to get back together once 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:42.200 I started the process, but so embryos wasn't was not 0:14:42.280 --> 0:14:44.600 even on the table because part of what this did 0:14:44.600 --> 0:14:46.680 for us was it kind of saved our relationship and 0:14:46.680 --> 0:14:48.760 gave us time we weren't ready to commit to that. 0:14:49.160 --> 0:14:51.400 It's so funny because I remember Steph calling you, and 0:14:51.440 --> 0:14:54.160 you gave me a ton of information. I knew nothing 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.080 like i'd like the neighbors of like doesn't I don't 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:58.840 like like know everything. I'm just kind of just like 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.600 wanted this, like someone to hold my hand through just 0:15:01.720 --> 0:15:04.200 all of it. I'm remembering now, like when you talked 0:15:04.200 --> 0:15:07.480 about her ovaries that's over how beautiful they were. I 0:15:07.560 --> 0:15:10.960 have literally blocked all of that out. That was the 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.520 worst part of going in and I'm checking to see 0:15:13.520 --> 0:15:16.200 how many eggs or what was going on that day. 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:19.800 There were some nurses who were not as gentle as others, 0:15:19.840 --> 0:15:22.040 and I found that. I remember being like ow. I 0:15:22.120 --> 0:15:26.240 was like ow ow it, like what what are you? 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.560 I'm like that hurts me, you know, But well, they're 0:15:28.560 --> 0:15:32.320 poking you. I mean they really are, Yeah, because they 0:15:32.560 --> 0:15:35.920 enter your vagininess so many times. Like it's like basically 0:15:35.960 --> 0:15:37.880 going to the kind of college was every single day 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.000 to have a whatever that's called. Yeah, it's basically that 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.120 times a hundred. Okay, it's like every other day they're 0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.720 doing that. Is that true? Yeah? Once you start the 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:51.120 shots every other day you have to go in and 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:53.840 they check them to see how they're growing. What is it? 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.440 The thing that put put a condom on it. Yeah. 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:59.320 Oh so for people listening, f y I, it's like 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:02.160 a dil Joe. They put a condom on it and 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.280 a lot of lube. I'm just being descript so that 0:16:05.320 --> 0:16:08.080 in case you're considering doing this, Like for me, I 0:16:08.080 --> 0:16:10.280 don't think that's a big deal. But for me, the 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:13.160 speculum is like I hate a speculum, but I don't 0:16:13.200 --> 0:16:15.360 mind the internal dildo thing. I mean, how had it 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:16.760 goes to show you? I mean, I don't know what 0:16:16.800 --> 0:16:19.600 that means about me. It's quite large. I don't feel 0:16:19.640 --> 0:16:24.400 like it was. But ha ha, you're welcome, Adam. I 0:16:24.480 --> 0:16:27.520 remember thinking like, okay, just like try to enjoy this, 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.440 like try what else am I going to do here? 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:33.640 But because I would just like just like taking depressed, 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:36.560 I literally have blocked this out. I'm just remembering it 0:16:36.600 --> 0:16:39.280 now and now like a perhaps there's nothing. I'm like, 0:16:39.280 --> 0:16:51.200 oh that's it. So egg freezing. We're saying around twelve 0:16:51.240 --> 0:16:53.640 to fifteen thousand dollars, do you guys know, are there 0:16:53.640 --> 0:16:56.600 any ways that these costs can be reduced? Like thinking 0:16:56.600 --> 0:16:59.840 about the storage fees afterwards? Are there any options where 0:16:59.840 --> 0:17:04.160 you save money? The consultation alone is like three there 0:17:04.200 --> 0:17:06.080 there is for the drugs. You can get discounts for 0:17:06.119 --> 0:17:09.440 the drugs. Lady. That's who I got it from. So 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.760 people listening go to your ob and say, I really 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.840 want to get consultations on egg freezing. Is there any 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:16.800 which way, shape or form to get this lest in cost? 0:17:16.840 --> 0:17:19.280 Because I don't think you can submit even the consultation 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.800 to insurance. I don't know. No, none of none of 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.720 it's covered. But the at most places these I want 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:27.800 to say the billing department, but I'm not sure exactly 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:29.600 what they're. The person is called. You sit down when 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:32.119 you're ready to do it, they go over the costs 0:17:32.160 --> 0:17:34.680 with you. They break it down and there's two things 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.040 to look for. One is to look for a place 0:17:37.280 --> 0:17:40.720 that has a year of storage included because that's a 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:42.800 good deal. And they always give you an option of 0:17:42.840 --> 0:17:46.159 like four years or like seven years or something like 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:48.640 that for your storage to like buy the bundle. Also, 0:17:48.680 --> 0:17:50.200 they're always going to try to get you to buy 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.679 two rounds because it is cheaper if you do that, 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:56.000 but like you know that on yourself, it's up to you. Yeah, 0:17:56.080 --> 0:17:59.600 I don't know. But then there's like care credits, like 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:02.080 an exam ample of it. But there's places that you 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:06.240 can submit your personal financial information too and they will 0:18:06.680 --> 0:18:09.959 give you basically qualify based on your income level for 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.480 a discount, and it's usually pretty drastic. It's like a 0:18:12.480 --> 0:18:15.199 thirty or fifty discount on the drugs. It does not 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:19.280 affect the package deal that you pay at that fertility, 0:18:19.320 --> 0:18:22.760 that doctor, and that clinic that's set and they don't 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:26.439 usually do discounts and they don't do um payment plans. 0:18:26.640 --> 0:18:28.520 Usually have to like pay for it look like a 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:31.920 credit card or cash. So it was great, like I say, 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:33.760 you know, I had this discount, so I would get 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.000 this discount on the drugs. But again, because I had 0:18:36.040 --> 0:18:40.399 these like sleepy suppressed ovaries, I had to do extra meds, 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:43.439 which then all the money I had originally saved up 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.240 the cost, so mine was more expensive in the end 0:18:45.280 --> 0:18:47.640 because of all the drugs I had to take. They 0:18:47.760 --> 0:18:51.200 they suggested like this thing that's like basically a facial 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:53.440 for your vagina. Do you guys know what I'm talking about? 0:18:53.800 --> 0:18:56.960 Like a date? What do you mean? I think there 0:18:57.040 --> 0:18:59.000 is a thing like where people go and it's like 0:18:59.320 --> 0:19:02.200 they just space that we make your ritna really great. 0:19:03.080 --> 0:19:05.040 You know what I need to have a specialist on 0:19:05.080 --> 0:19:08.880 in this department to be honest. Well, I remember Caroline 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:10.960 said to me, She's like, well, you know, because it's 0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.639 been like so invasive, like we want to give that 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:19.760 to you complimentary. It's something that's I want to say, like, wow, Crafty, 0:19:19.840 --> 0:19:24.760 can you take us through your egg retrieval process if 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.040 you can remember any of it that you didn't black out? 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:31.720 You know the reason I ultimately did it. I remember 0:19:31.920 --> 0:19:34.359 I was working on Grays and Frankie and I was 0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:37.080 talking to June Diane Ray feel about it, and she goes, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:42.000 just do it now, lindsay do it now. And for 0:19:42.040 --> 0:19:45.080 some reason, you guys know June, Yeah, I would listen 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:47.359 to her. Yeah, he listened to June when she tells 0:19:48.280 --> 0:19:50.960 because she's like, you're just going to get older tomorrow. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:53.320 For some reason, the way that she kind of painted it, 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:55.160 I was like, Okay, I'm gonna do it. I wanna 0:19:55.200 --> 0:19:57.360 do it. I remember I ended up having to do 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.879 it while I was working like on a show that 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:01.439 I didn't know that I had booked, you know, And 0:20:01.480 --> 0:20:04.280 so it's kind of like one of those situations. I 0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.520 remember I found out that I had um low thyroid. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:12.600 My thyroid was low, which is like kind of the 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:15.439 opposite what you would think because I wasn't like gaining 0:20:15.480 --> 0:20:17.919 weight or anything. It felt like it was concerning, you know, 0:20:17.960 --> 0:20:20.240 and I was like all upset. And so then I 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:22.720 had to take medication for like a month to get 0:20:22.760 --> 0:20:25.160