1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:02,840 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. 2 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: The Diddy defense to keep Hitler loving Kanye away from 3 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 2: the Diddy jury. This as Diddy doubles down on the 4 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:21,599 Speaker 2: gamble of a lifetime betting against the state and calling 5 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,720 Speaker 2: out a single defense witness to defend him in front 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 2: of that jury. The new Diddy defense. Wait for it, 7 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 2: Blame Iran. Yes, that's the Diddy defense. Blame Iran. They're 8 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:44,040 Speaker 2: the real threat and stay out of Didty's bedroom. Okay, 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 2: I'm Nancy Grece. This is Crime Stories. I want to 10 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 2: thank you for being with us. Objection ew More freak 11 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: takes diddyperve did. 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 3: He is loving every second of it. 13 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Joining us live at the courthouse. 14 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 2: Tisa Tells and investigation and star off Tasa Tales on YouTube. 15 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 2: She's been in the courtroom from the get go, along 16 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: with our Sydney Sumner Crime Stories investigative reporter taysa, what 17 00:01:09,120 --> 00:01:09,960 Speaker 2: a day. 18 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: In the courtroom? Is it true? 19 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 2: Sean Holmes has decided in his wisdom not to call 20 00:01:19,360 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 2: a single defense witness. 21 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 4: Not only has he decided not to call a single 22 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 4: defense witness, he is now saying that his day of 23 00:01:27,880 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 4: defense will be him literally reading well his attorneys reading 24 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: text messages half heartedly. 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 3: This has been the ultimate bait and switch. They promised us. 26 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 4: Four weeks, shows and polonies, probably goats running around the courtroom, 27 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 4: anything to distract, and in less than a couple of weeks, 28 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 4: interestingly enough, at the. 29 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 3: Jurorsic got kicked off. 30 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 4: Now they don't even want to call anybody to the stand, 31 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 4: not one accountant, not one employee. 32 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 3: Not one anything very interesting. 33 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 2: Timing straight out to Eric Fattis joining US veteran try 34 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: old lawyer, TV illegal analyst founding partner Varner Fattest, Elite Legal, 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:11,120 Speaker 2: former felonmy prosecutor Fattest. That is a big gamble now, 36 00:02:11,120 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: I said on day one, I think you fought with 37 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: me about this that the defense always claims, Oh, we're 38 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 2: going to have four weeks a testimony, it's going to 39 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 2: be grueling. 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: Then suddenly it's two weeks. 41 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:26,080 Speaker 2: Now it's two days, and in the last hours it's nothing. 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,200 Speaker 2: They're putting up nothing. That is a very big gamble. 43 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 2: It's a gamble of a lifetime for. 44 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 5: Shawn Comes, It's a bullet moove for sir. I mean, 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 5: I think a lot of people are expecting kind of 46 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,799 Speaker 5: a counter narrative from the defense in this case, it 47 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 5: sounds like we're pretty much not going to hear that. 48 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 5: What it looks like is the defense is contenting that, hey, 49 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 5: the prosecution has the burden here. It's their job to 50 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 5: put on the evidence. They have failed woefully according to 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 5: the defense, and the defense really doesn't need to do 52 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 5: anything more that they've established what they need to through 53 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 5: cross examination, through high lighting some of these text messages 54 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 5: that they show that they says show consent, and so 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 5: they're going to kind of give it over to the 56 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 5: jury in about a day or so. 57 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: Eric fattis, of course, there's going to be a huge, long, 58 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 2: extremely painful and boring charge conference. The charge conference occurs 59 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: just before closing arguments, and in a charge conference, both sides, 60 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 2: the state and the defense, submit jury charges to the judge. 61 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 2: What are jury charges? Those are the instructions where the 62 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 2: judge literally reads the law verbatim to the jury, the 63 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 2: law by which they are to judge this case. 64 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 1: They'll get a charge on sex trafficking. 65 00:03:41,440 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 2: They'll get a charge on coercion, They'll get a charge 66 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 2: on everything that Sean Comes is charged with. They'll get 67 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 2: a charge on reasonable doubt, presumption of innocence. Every permutation 68 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: of the law that can apply to this case. 69 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: On credibility, the burden is on the state. 70 00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 2: They'll also get a charge fattest on the defendant's right 71 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 2: to remain silent, and. 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: They're going to be told if the defendant. 73 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 2: Doesn't testify, you cannot hold that against him. Okay, we 74 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: all know that's coming. But the reality, Fattest, The reality 75 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: is when the defense stands up and says, your honor, 76 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: the defense rests in front of the jury, They're going 77 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: to be going like, what, he's not going to take 78 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: the stand. 79 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 1: He's got nothing to say. You know they're thinking that fattest. 80 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 5: Without question, that's got to be going on in these 81 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 5: jurism minds. Look, they're going to get this instruction that says, hey, 82 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 5: did he has a constitutional right not testify? If he 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 5: elects to exercise that right, the jury cannot hold that 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 5: against him. Jurors are human beings, though you don't think about. 85 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 5: If a parent has two kids and there's cookies missing 86 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 5: from the cookie jar, you want to hear from both kids. 87 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 5: You want to hear both sides. You want to hear 88 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 5: sorts of reasons and any sort of corroborative of evidence. 89 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 5: That supports either side. But in a court room, it's 90 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 5: just a different scenario. And Diddy is not going to testify. 91 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 5: It would be perless for him to do that. And 92 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 5: so will these jurors be able to follow that instruction 93 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,760 Speaker 5: and not somehow will hold that against it. He's saying, Hey, 94 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 5: I want to hear from that guy. I want to 95 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 5: hear his story. 96 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you know what they're going to think in 97 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: their heads. If he's telling the truth, why doesn't he 98 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: take the stand? 99 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: What does he have to fear? Now? 100 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: Of course, the state cannot argue that to the jury. 101 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: That would be reversible error. Any comment or allusion to 102 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 2: him invoking his right to remain. 103 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:39,479 Speaker 1: Silent is reversible error. If the state. 104 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: Doesn't, now, the defense will be able to argue. Now, remember, jury, 105 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: you absolutely cannot hold it against him that he didn't testify. 106 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 2: He has no burden and he didn't need to testify. 107 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 2: You know why, because the state didn't prove their case. 108 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 2: That is what they're going to be argue. Put money 109 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 2: on it. Go ahead and make book. 110 00:05:57,839 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 1: But here's the thing. 111 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: Tisa Tales joining me outside the courthouse. You can find 112 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 2: her at Tasa tails on YouTube. Tisa of course, the 113 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 2: defendant doesn't have to testify, and the jury's going to 114 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: hear that injury instructions. But what about all these other people? 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 2: What about Christina Korum? Why didn't she come through for 116 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 2: the defense? If Koram has nothing to hide, why didn't 117 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 2: she come on for showing comes? Why didn't Jana She 118 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: wouldn't come in for the state. So where are all 119 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 2: of these other witnesses that have been part of this scenario? 120 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: Where are they? Exactly? See, here's the thing. 121 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 4: Did he still act like he's controlling everything and he 122 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 4: can snap his fingers and make us deny reality? 123 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: Yes, we all know form watching Mattlocke and everything else 124 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: that he does not have to testify. But to your point, 125 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 3: where is everyone else? 126 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 4: When you look at as a real life human woman, 127 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 4: it looks weird and it's going to look whird to 128 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 4: the jury that there is not one employee, not one investigator, 129 00:06:57,960 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 4: not one freak off worker, one entertainer, not anyone for 130 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,679 Speaker 4: walking next to is going to come on the stand, 131 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 4: and not one uncharged co conspirator KK that is going 132 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,360 Speaker 4: to come on the stand and say, hey, let me 133 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: tell you what it is. And you've got to look 134 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 4: at it through the jury's point of view, because we're 135 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:16,760 Speaker 4: getting the same view that the jury is. 136 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 3: They were promised in the opening argument. 137 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,320 Speaker 4: That they were going to prove they had a tentative 138 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 4: end date, so they're thinking somewhere between July fourth July eighteenth. 139 00:07:27,880 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 4: They are waiting for Diddy to put on his defense. 140 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 4: Now imagine this, though. You just see your coworker get dismissed. 141 00:07:35,960 --> 00:07:38,320 Speaker 4: They don't know why, they just said we no longer 142 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 4: need you, and they see a shuffling, and then all 143 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: of a sudden, Diddy's team comes out and stands up 144 00:07:43,720 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 4: and says. 145 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: And we rest our case. 146 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 4: It looks odd, it looks weird, and I think, and 147 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 4: most people in the courtroom think it's not going to 148 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 4: play the way all these legal analysis think it is. 149 00:07:54,760 --> 00:07:58,040 Speaker 4: We are real life humans, and you gotta think, where 150 00:07:58,160 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 4: is your defense? 151 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 3: Keep quiet, but where is your defense? 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 4: Just bring us one sex worker, the punisher, the planar, 153 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: whatever you want to call them. 154 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: Bring us one sex worker that. 155 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 4: Can say it was consensual and they enjoyed it. 156 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: They cannot. 157 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 4: I think it's a big mistake, and a lot of 158 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 4: people in the courtroom think so too. 159 00:08:14,400 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 2: An Tasa Tailles, what about friends, friends of Cassie Ventura, 160 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: friends of Mia not her real name, friends of Jane 161 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: not her real name, to say, oh, this is total bs. 162 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 2: She never complained about. 163 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,760 Speaker 1: The free costs. In fact, she never even mentioned them. 164 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: You know why they're not bringing them because they don't exist. 165 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 2: But if the jury gets back there and thinks this 166 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:41,480 Speaker 2: through the way we're thinking it through, they'll think, well, 167 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 2: wait a minute, don't any of the alleged victims have 168 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: friends that the victims confide in. 169 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 1: Why didn't they come on? I don't get it. 170 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: Say they're going to go back there, I think, and 171 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,959 Speaker 2: they're going to reason through the fact that the defense 172 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: did not bring one single person on. Let me go 173 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 2: back to Eric Fattus joining me veteran trial lawyer. While 174 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 2: the state cannot comment on the defendant's right to remain silent, 175 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 2: if the defense has alluded to other witnesses, okay, if 176 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 2: they've said, well, none of her friends state that she 177 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:27,559 Speaker 2: was harmed, or she was coerced, or she was drugged. 178 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 2: If the defense said that at any point in the trial, 179 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 2: or something akin to that, the state can comment on 180 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 2: the defense's failure to produce those witnesses. They can't say 181 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 2: it about the defendant not taking the stand, but they 182 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 2: can comment on any witness the defense has alluded to 183 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:54,160 Speaker 2: that the defense did not bring in front of the jury. 184 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,960 Speaker 2: That might happen fattest fancy shockingly. 185 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,680 Speaker 5: I think we agree on that. I think generally speaking, 186 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 5: there can't be burden shifting, so they got to be 187 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 5: careful about that. But the defense has the same subpoena 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 5: power that the prosecution has. So the defense, like you said, 189 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 5: could have subpoenaed bad entertainment folks who if they had 190 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 5: these witnesses would get up there and say, hey, I 191 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 5: wasn't aware of any freak offs. I didn't pay for this, 192 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,520 Speaker 5: The business didn't pay for this. That they could have 193 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,560 Speaker 5: gotten attendees of these hotel parties who said, hey, everything 194 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 5: appeared consensual to me, and no one was saying no, 195 00:10:29,080 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 5: we're not hearing from any of those witnesses. And I 196 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: think it's probably fair game for the prosecution to say, hey, 197 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 5: defense told you about witness X, Y and Z, who 198 00:10:37,520 --> 00:10:39,560 Speaker 5: was going to come up here? Where are those folks? 199 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 6: You know? 200 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 2: Doctor Bethany Marshall joining us are now psycho analyst out 201 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,839 Speaker 2: of the LA jurisdiction, author of deal Breaker. You can 202 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: find her on peacock and online at doctor Bethany Marshall 203 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: dot com. I know, I get it that the jury 204 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 2: is going to be told and it's going to be 205 00:10:56,520 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 2: hammered in in the defense closing argument that Shawn did 206 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 2: not have to take the stand and there was no 207 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,560 Speaker 2: need for him to take the stand because the state 208 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,319 Speaker 2: failed improving its case. That's going to be the argument. 209 00:11:09,480 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 2: But you want to tell me, Bethany, you know people 210 00:11:12,080 --> 00:11:13,319 Speaker 2: better than anybody. 211 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,800 Speaker 1: They're not going to talk about why. 212 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 2: Didn't he take the stand, And then somebody in the 213 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 2: jury deliberation room is going to go, you can't talk 214 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 2: about that, you can't think. 215 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 1: About it, and the other one will say, yeah, okay, you're. 216 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 2: Right, let's not talk about the fact that he didn't 217 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:26,439 Speaker 2: take the stand. 218 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 7: He didn't take the stand. Not only that, Nancy, in 219 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 7: a way he has taken the stand, not personally he 220 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 7: invoked his right to remain silent, but that those jurors 221 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 7: have heard p Diddy's voice, they have heard your my 222 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 7: crack pipe, they have heard where are you? They have 223 00:11:44,200 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 7: seen the text, they have heard the text written out loud. 224 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 7: So unless he comes in with a better kinder gentler voice. 225 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 7: That is what they were left with. You know, there 226 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,839 Speaker 7: was one interaction that just came out where he called 227 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 7: Cowboys for Angel and they said, you know, you owe 228 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 7: us another six hundred dollars and he said, well, the 229 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 7: guy didn't even perform. And then she said, well, they're 230 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 7: not there to perform the worker for a Cowboys for Angels. 231 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 7: They're there too. You're paying for their time, not their erection, 232 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 7: basically is what she was saying. And then he steps 233 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 7: in and says, okay, be nice. I found that interaction 234 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,840 Speaker 7: very interesting because it told me how quickly he becomes 235 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 7: aggressive with people when he doesn't get his way. She 236 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,160 Speaker 7: was being perfectly nice. She was just explaining that he 237 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,760 Speaker 7: was paying for the sex workers time, but he began 238 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 7: to turn on her. I think that's the kind of 239 00:12:38,160 --> 00:12:42,160 Speaker 7: voice that's going to be in the jurors head. Resoundingly. 240 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 7: Who talks like that? Nobody really Well, P Diddy, well. 241 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: You're right, you're right speaking of that. Take a listen 242 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: to this. The court. 243 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 8: Here's texts were Shawn Combs haggles with Bridget from Cowboys 244 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 8: for Angels over escore prices. Bridget informs Combs that he 245 00:12:56,760 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 8: still has an outstanding six hundred dollars balance, to which 246 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 8: Combs replies, Lol, he couldn't even perform. Bridget reminds Colmbs 247 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 8: he's paying for the man's time, and Colmb's retorts that 248 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 8: she should talk nice to him since he's a longtime customer. 249 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 8: In another exchange, Colmbs tells Bridget to stop raising my 250 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 8: rate because he is a long timer. Bridget says it 251 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 8: isn't up to her, but the escort, adding that the 252 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 8: best guys have high rates. 253 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 2: Excuse me, but did I just hear Sean Combs aka 254 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 2: Itty Bitty Diddy whining that the sex worker couldn't perform? 255 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 2: Correct me if I'm wrong, But Tisa tells, I got 256 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 2: to circle back to doctor Bethany's allegation and she's right 257 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: that we in a way hear Shawn Combe's voice through 258 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 2: all of his ridiculous texts. This one included what is 259 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: wrong with rich people? 260 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: Here? 261 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: He is committing a crime. 262 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:54,959 Speaker 2: He is ordering up a sex worker like he's ordering 263 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 2: a pepperoni pizza from Papa John's. Okay, he's ordering up 264 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 2: a sex worker. 265 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: And he's one about how much they're charging him for 266 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: a maal sex worker and. 267 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:09,479 Speaker 2: Cash this He even has an unpaid balance. 268 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: What is wrong with rich people? 269 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: He's a billionaire and he can't pay his six hundred 270 00:14:14,840 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 2: dollars ballance to a sex worker, which, hello. 271 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:18,839 Speaker 1: Is illegal. 272 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:23,240 Speaker 2: And here we've got him on text haggling with the 273 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: woman about the thief for the sex worker and the irony. 274 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: The insult to the irony is he accuses the sex 275 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 2: worker of not being able to perform. 276 00:14:34,040 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: I wonder if it has anything to do with him. 277 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 2: Dragging Cassie Ventira out in the middle of the freak 278 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 2: off and beating her and then sending her back in 279 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 2: to perform correctly. But woa whoaoa whoa eddy beady Diddy, 280 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,320 Speaker 2: the one sitting over there, button naked, wearing a burka 281 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:54,200 Speaker 2: over his face, talking on the phone and trying to masturbate. 282 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,400 Speaker 1: He says the sex worker can't be for him perform. 283 00:14:57,480 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: Did I just hear that? 284 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 3: You just heard that? And that was one of the 285 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 3: most shocking things we heard in court. 286 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 4: When you talk about these billionaires, I literally said, I thought, 287 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 4: being part of a billionars that praved. 288 00:15:07,520 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: Harm had some perps. 289 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 4: He started the conversation off by accusing them of raising rates. 290 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 4: She literally had the screenship a picture of the rates 291 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 4: to let her know I'm trying to be even and 292 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 4: even after that, he then tried to short six hundred. 293 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:25,760 Speaker 3: We heard about these sex workers being flown on Spirit Airlines. 294 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:30,000 Speaker 3: Are you insane? Spirit Airlines paying for their own ubers? 295 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,920 Speaker 1: This man was beyond che Ponder up, Tasa Towels. 296 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Why are you acting like Spirit Airlines is because I mean, 297 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 2: I've flown on Spirit Airlines before. They tried to charge 298 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 2: me for a cup, not a bottle, a cup of water. 299 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: I swear I wonder if. 300 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: I had to pay to go to the bathroom, and 301 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 2: I decided I would just hold it. I can't remember 302 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: if you had to pay to go to the bathroom. 303 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: So TSA. 304 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 2: You mentioned seemingly outraged that he flew these sex workers 305 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 2: on Spirit Airlines, But the irony, the other irony, is 306 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 2: that he has a sixty million dollar private jet that 307 00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 2: he is renting out for tens of thousands. 308 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 1: Of dollars per flight, and the. 309 00:16:15,880 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 2: Guests have no idea they need one of these before 310 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 2: they sit down on Diddie's jet, Because you know, there's 311 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: no way he can resist being a member of the. 312 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: Mile High Club. 313 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: That's not going to happen, and he's bringing in I 314 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 2: think since he was arrested over four million dollars revenue 315 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:39,200 Speaker 2: from renting out. Oh there you go his private jet. 316 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 2: So what were you saying about flying everyone on spirit? 317 00:16:45,240 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 4: The fact that he flew them on spirit the most 318 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 4: low budget. They were in charge of their own taxis 319 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: and charge of their own ubers. They literally were paying 320 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 4: money out. 321 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 3: Of their pockets for the presence of being with them. 322 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 4: And get this, he actually had a running tab that 323 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 4: they would have to He's after him afterwards, begging for 324 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:07,360 Speaker 4: reimbursement of any type even services. Again, it was shocking 325 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 4: that a billionaire, But when it comes down to it, 326 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: there is something about a cosmic justice that his own 327 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 4: cheapness of not handling this directly is the reason why 328 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 4: the Feds had this little breadth from trail of who 329 00:17:21,040 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: did what, because the receipts and the reimbursements again did 330 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 4: he was notoriously cheap. 331 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 3: With its time, with its love. And now it seems like. 332 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:33,680 Speaker 4: It is all coming down but a lot of shocking things. 333 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: We are alive at the Monahan Federal Courthouse as we 334 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 2: are learning Israel Shawkhin's not taking the stand and ringing 335 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 2: not a single. 336 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: Witness and his defense. 337 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:50,200 Speaker 2: But I think there's one person that's willing to testify 338 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 2: for Shawn Comms. 339 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 9: Recent reports indicate that Christian Colmbs is working on new 340 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 9: music with rapper Kanye West, but for Shawn Combe's sake, 341 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 9: hopefully the projects are not for Ye's upcoming album Cook. 342 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 9: The rapper released the album's featured single, Hail Hitler, which 343 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 9: includes a long sample of a Hitler speech, just for 344 00:18:10,760 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 9: every music platform to immediately take it down. Several other 345 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 9: tracks are in the works for Cook, including gas Chambers, 346 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:20,800 Speaker 9: World War III, and Hitler. 347 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: Yee and Jesus. 348 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 9: While Ye is set to perform at a music festival 349 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 9: in Slovakia and July, protesters have started a petition to 350 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:29,960 Speaker 9: prevent the performance. 351 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,120 Speaker 2: Tasa Tales joining me at the Monahan Federal Courthouse. That's 352 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:35,640 Speaker 2: one person that would be willing to testify for Shan 353 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 2: comes Kanye, and he's got time. He's not going to 354 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 2: sang his Hitler song Until July. 355 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 4: Kanye was to testify, but like what everything else did, 356 00:18:45,880 --> 00:18:48,679 Speaker 4: he said, it didn't come to fruition. And let me 357 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 4: tell you, they actually put him on the witness list. 358 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 4: They actually even put him on the family list that 359 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 4: come sit in court. Again, this underlies the fact that 360 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 4: the defense did not know that they were not going 361 00:19:00,920 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 4: to put any witnesses on till the last minute. 362 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 3: And Nancy, I hear you. You might be able to 363 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 3: explain away the whole fit amendment. But the one thing 364 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 3: I think that the normal. 365 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,480 Speaker 4: Person would say when you are being faced with sex 366 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:16,199 Speaker 4: trafficking and going to jail for the rest of your life, 367 00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 4: the fact that you cannot bring one person either Kanye's 368 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 4: crazy salt. You cannot bring one friend to Cassie. You 369 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 4: cannot even bring one sex worker. How powerful to have 370 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 4: the sex worker that was in the room when Cassie 371 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 4: was dragged back to get on the stand and say hey, look, 372 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,800 Speaker 4: It only sends one message to the jury. You can't 373 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 4: mount a defense because there is nobody that is willing 374 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,640 Speaker 4: to stand up against penalty of perjury and speak one. 375 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 3: Good word about you. Again, I get what. 376 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,640 Speaker 4: The legal eagles are saying, and Nancy have a good point, 377 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 4: but I am certain this is not going to play well. 378 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: To the jury. 379 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 4: And like you said, the jury is going to be 380 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:57,560 Speaker 4: shocked when they sit there. Not even Kanye, who. 381 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 3: Said he was ready and willing. 382 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 4: To testify and do what he could to protect Diddy 383 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 4: is willing to get the defense even thinks. 384 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 3: That's a bad idea. Again, they are running. 385 00:20:07,400 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: Scared crime stories with Nancy Grace. 386 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,400 Speaker 10: Within an hour of West's Super Bowl ad airing on TV. 387 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,720 Speaker 10: The only item available in his shop is a twenty 388 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 10: dollars short sleeved white T shirt with a swastika on it. 389 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 10: The shirt is named HHO one. Many believe the letters 390 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:40,840 Speaker 10: stand for Hyle Hitler. Critics and fans alike are absolutely 391 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 10: horrified shopify. The site's host suspends Yeezy's account within twenty 392 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 10: four hours. The site now reading this shop is not available. 393 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,679 Speaker 2: That's just what you don't want as a Hitler loving 394 00:20:53,960 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 2: wackadoodle like Kanye. Maybe'll even bring his naked wife Biancasen Sorrianan. 395 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: Here's his idea of a good idea. Tisa tales. 396 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,040 Speaker 8: I spent like all the money put a commercial. 397 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 1: On these new teeth once again. I had to shoot 398 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: it on the iPhone. 399 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 4: Go to easy dot com. 400 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,280 Speaker 1: So Tisa tales. Uh oh. By the way, that's from 401 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 1: the official Yeasy page. 402 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 2: Kanye is still threatening to come into the courtroom like 403 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 2: a stink bomb. And sit behind Sean Combs during closing arguments, 404 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,680 Speaker 2: or at some point he was all angry he couldn't 405 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 2: be put into the regular courtroom and had to sit 406 00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 2: an overflow a few days ago. But I imagine he's going 407 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 2: to make up for all that with a grand entrance. 408 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: Any sign of Kanye there. 409 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:50,400 Speaker 3: Is zero sign, zero security. Listen, with friends like Kanye, 410 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 3: you don't need enemies. 411 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 1: And he's welcome to come because. 412 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:58,800 Speaker 4: Unlike unlike weeks before, did He's side is empty. Mama 413 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 4: Comes hasn't even shown up yet, so there is plenty 414 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: of space. 415 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 3: Again. I'm not much for conspiracies, but. 416 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 11: You have to wonder it is comany even on Didny's side, 417 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 11: And if this is the best and the brightest that 418 00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 11: you can get to stand there and help rebuild your 419 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 11: integrity to the jury, Yeah, I see why Diddy is 420 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 11: not even having one witness testify if this is the 421 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 11: only person he can get Tasa Tales. 422 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 2: In the last hours, more photographic exhibits by the state 423 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 2: have been entered before the jury. Let's take a look 424 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 2: at them, and you can tell us exactly the significance 425 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 2: of the photos. 426 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: Tasa Tales. Here we have Sean combs. 427 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 2: At the beach. What did that have to do with anything? 428 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:43,960 Speaker 2: Why did the state introduce that. 429 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 4: Because this was supposed to be Hilm at Turps, I 430 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 4: believe where he kept tricking Jane to come. 431 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: She begged you to love me, come out. 432 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,920 Speaker 4: Companies are the women. He said, you know what, baby, 433 00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:57,520 Speaker 4: don't worry. I'm going to make a special trip for 434 00:22:57,600 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 4: the two of us. We're going to your dream location. 435 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 4: I'm taking you to Turks and it's just going to 436 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 4: be the two of us and we're going to reconnect. 437 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 4: And our little bunny bunny Rabbis said, you don't meet it. 438 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,720 Speaker 4: He said, baby, yes, I do. Just get on that plane. 439 00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 4: She was so excited that were text messages says finally 440 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 4: just me and you. 441 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 3: It was supposed to be a romantic knight. 442 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 4: What is the significance of this because they also showed 443 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 4: the text messages that in the background, he was coordinating 444 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 4: with their favorite little sex worker to actually show up, 445 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 4: unbeknownst to Jane and Ambusher. Once you had taken all 446 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 4: those narcotics and was loosey goosey, and that is how 447 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,680 Speaker 4: he by fraud got her to do a freak golf 448 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 4: and they're showing in the days that yes you were 449 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: at Turks, Yes you transported those prostitution prostitutes, not over 450 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: state lines, but even over international And this is another 451 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 4: thing of how. 452 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 3: They have Diddy. 453 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 4: It seems like dead to rights, so dead to rights again, 454 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 4: keep beating a dead horse, but so dead to writs 455 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 4: that not one person will come and sit on that 456 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 4: stand to defend his. 457 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Antics speaking of that ill fated trip to Turks. And 458 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember if this is the one Linn 459 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 2: Shaw joining me, founder executive director Lyn's Warriors, committed to 460 00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 2: ending sex trafficking and sex. 461 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: Exploitation of women and girls. 462 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 2: Do you remember the beach trip where two of the 463 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 2: alleged victims paddle board into a storm rather than come 464 00:24:30,440 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 2: back to the shore because they could see Sean comes pacing. 465 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: Back and forth on the shore like a tiger. 466 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 2: Right, And now we see those photos Linshaw of him 467 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 2: chillaxon on the beach. But we know what happened after that. 468 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 2: The women were so afraid the two of them chost 469 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: a paddle board into a tropical storm rather than come 470 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 2: back with him waiting on the shore. 471 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,240 Speaker 12: Triple d dirty Diddy, degenerate. Now we learned Nickel and diamond. 472 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:04,679 Speaker 12: It we have to add to the list of his names. Listen, 473 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 12: this is force fraud, coersion equals sexual servitude. Women that 474 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,520 Speaker 12: would rather be out in the ocean in a storm 475 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 12: than come and save their lives. Women running away. We 476 00:25:16,760 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 12: see Cassie, you know, without her shoes on, running in 477 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 12: a hallway. I pray, you know, I have a dream 478 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:24,080 Speaker 12: all the time that he does take the stand, because 479 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 12: that would be the end of this dirty ditty and 480 00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 12: the end of talking about him. But you know what, 481 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 12: here's what's happening. In my opinion, I think this is 482 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 12: the best thing that's happening because, you know what, we 483 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:37,400 Speaker 12: don't have to see his face. But let's get back 484 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 12: to you know who does want to see his face? 485 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,160 Speaker 12: Because I get a lot of messages, a lot of victims, survivors, 486 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 12: not even of ditties that have been sexually exploited. They 487 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 12: want to know why isn't he taking the stand? They 488 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,639 Speaker 12: want to know where where is anybody to stand up 489 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,640 Speaker 12: for him? Because there is nobody. They tell me to 490 00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 12: stand up for him. So, you know what, this guy, 491 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 12: if this isn't a case of sex trafficking over state 492 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 12: line International, I don't know what is because this is 493 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 12: a clear definition. Let me repeat myself of sexual servitude, 494 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 12: fraudulent ways to get people to attend parties or to 495 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 12: come the little bunny as Tisa calls her. You know, 496 00:26:13,560 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 12: on this romantic trip, he used fraud. So he is 497 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 12: going down and you know what he is going down, 498 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 12: and we will all be standing there waiting and clapping 499 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 12: our hands. 500 00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: Shawnkhme's caught licking his lips, rubbing his hands together. 501 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 4: This was the all Star Kobe Bryant, Shaq Shakill O'Neil 502 00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: dream Team Shack Attack playoff. 503 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,719 Speaker 1: This is what he wrote. These are his trial notes. 504 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 2: We are live at the Monhan Federal Courthouse where the 505 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 2: end of the trial seemingly is in sight. 506 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,439 Speaker 1: But first of. 507 00:26:44,440 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 2: All, we've got our miss on some of the official 508 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:51,240 Speaker 2: documents and photos exhibits internet into evidence by the state. 509 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at what we obtained. 510 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 5: Here. 511 00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 2: You see Shawn cohmb's getting yet another beauty treatment. 512 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,640 Speaker 1: Okay eight. The jury is. 513 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 2: Drinking this in and now we've got a video the 514 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:05,919 Speaker 2: jury has just gotten. 515 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:07,000 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at. 516 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 2: That is that Sean comes Sidney Sumner Crime Story's investigative 517 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 2: reporter with a rolex on. 518 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 1: I think that's what that is. I don't think it's 519 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:21,359 Speaker 1: a fake. 520 00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 2: And he's sitting in the back seat of a luxury 521 00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:29,200 Speaker 2: suv wearing diamond earrings and a dope rope. 522 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: Is that what I just saw? 523 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 4: The jury's going to see that, well, Nancy, that sure 524 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 4: sounds like Sean Colmes. 525 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,040 Speaker 13: This man doesn't do anything without style, without being in 526 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,920 Speaker 13: the most lux clothes that he can be in. This 527 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 13: man knows what top shelf's quality is and he flaunts 528 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,440 Speaker 13: it on a regular basis. 529 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 2: But yet it's so bizarre Dr Bethany Marshall that he 530 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,960 Speaker 2: haggles with people over saving money. We've heard about how 531 00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: he wants free tickets to basketball games, front seat on 532 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 2: the court, that he wants special perks when he travels not. 533 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,360 Speaker 1: In his private plane. That he wants free. 534 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: Clothing, free tickets to Fashion Week, free everything, reduce prices 535 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 2: for illegal sex workers. Yet there he is all laid 536 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 2: up in a luxury suv wearing two huge diamond earrings. 537 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: Let me tell you that ain't cubit Zirconia. Okay, A 538 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 2: big dope rope made of gold around is. And I 539 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: think that was a Rolex watch. Yet he's haggling with 540 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: everybody else. 541 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 7: And you know, Nancy, Also, if you roll that tape again, 542 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 7: he looks high to me, he doesn't look like he's sober. 543 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,840 Speaker 7: And all those complaints about sex workers not being able 544 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 7: to perform. 545 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: Well, he wants them to perform ya, thank you. Yep. 546 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 7: How are the sex workers supposed to keep an direction 547 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 7: for three days? I mean really, So back to not 548 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 7: wanting to pay for things. 549 00:28:57,040 --> 00:29:01,800 Speaker 2: Hold it, wait a minute, doctor Bethany, is he's smoking 550 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 2: a blunt? Hold on, let me see. He wastes till 551 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: the camera pans away before he puts it to his mouth, 552 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 2: which I'm pretty sure is him avoiding getting caught smoking 553 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 2: a joint. 554 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 7: He's showing off his orthodontics too. I mean, look, he 555 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 7: just opens his mouth ever so slightly so you can 556 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 7: see all those beautiful veneers. So, Nancy, in terms of 557 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,680 Speaker 7: not wanting to pay for anything, that's called entitlement, which 558 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 7: is one of the criteria for narcissism and sociopathy. It's 559 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 7: the expectation of reward without achievement. Wanted the best table 560 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 7: in the restaurant. You've never been to the restaurant before. 561 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 7: Or wanting your girlfriend to come to Turks and Caicos, 562 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 7: but you're lying to her about the fact there's going 563 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 7: to be a vacation. He wanted something for nothing. And 564 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 7: these poor girls Mia, Jane Cassie, they were trolled online 565 00:29:53,000 --> 00:29:55,239 Speaker 7: for only being in it for the money. When you 566 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 7: hear this comment about not wanting to pay a six 567 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 7: hundred dollars tab for. 568 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,880 Speaker 12: A sex worker. That's how he treated them. Whatever he 569 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 12: gave them was pennies on the dollar. 570 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 7: Okay, So they got one piece of jewelry that was 571 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 7: nothing compared to all the hardship that they endured. 572 00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: Joining me. 573 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons direct Operations USPA Nationwide Security. He leads a 574 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 2: team of investigators that work all over the world. You 575 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,920 Speaker 2: can find him at Uspasecurity dot com. Okay, I want 576 00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:29,360 Speaker 2: you to brace yourself. Okay, Brian Fitzgibbons. The new defense 577 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 2: is blame Iran? Why blame Iran? The defense is going 578 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: to argue that the prosecutors should be focusing on the 579 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:47,960 Speaker 2: real threat, and that is Iran and not sticking their 580 00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 2: noses into Sean Combs's bedroom. 581 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 1: That's the defense. 582 00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:59,720 Speaker 2: They are going to argue that and closing statements. 583 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: I mean, as soon as Iran and Israel got into 584 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:05,920 Speaker 1: a conflict and. 585 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 2: The US waited in all the defense attorneys are like 586 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 2: gnashing their teeth and twitching their tails. 587 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: How can we use the war to Danny's benefit? What 588 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:17,040 Speaker 1: about it? 589 00:31:17,080 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 6: Fitzgibbons, I just about fell out of my chair when 590 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 6: I read that Nancy about Iran. And we're in the 591 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:27,640 Speaker 6: six week of this trial. The defense is opportunistically taking 592 00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 6: this twelve day conflict between Iran and Israel to hopefully 593 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,520 Speaker 6: confuse the jury. I guess you know, you've had six 594 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 6: weeks of shocking witness testimony, six weeks of lurid video, 595 00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 6: and they're trying to distract the jury with this Iran thing, bottom. 596 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:57,600 Speaker 2: Line crime stories with Nancy Grace. You know what's interesting? 597 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,479 Speaker 2: So many things are interesting, Ryan Fitzgibbons. And I'm not 598 00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 2: blaming the lawyers of the defense lawyers. Although you make 599 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,400 Speaker 2: a choice of what kind of law you want to practice, 600 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 2: you don't have to defend guilty people. 601 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: Right, There's a million other things. 602 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 2: You can do, good things you can do with your 603 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: law degree. These lawyers are good. I know for a 604 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: fact that Steele is a great lawyer. I know for 605 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: a fact Tinny Gergos is a great lawyer. She learned 606 00:32:26,920 --> 00:32:29,240 Speaker 2: at the feet of her father, Mark Geergos in a 607 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 2: lot of cases. But this whole Iran suggestion, think about it. 608 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 1: Remember at the get Go mis. 609 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,120 Speaker 2: Gibbons that the sex worker came in, he didn't know 610 00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 2: who he was working for, and he looked over and 611 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:48,000 Speaker 2: saw a mail completely naked from here down, but wearing 612 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 2: a burka, a burka from here up. I can't wait 613 00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:58,600 Speaker 2: for the defense to blame Iran and say, hey, prosecutors, 614 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 2: you need to get out of Diddy's bedroom and focus 615 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 2: on a real threat for homeland security, and that would 616 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: be Iran. 617 00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: When there is their client dressed up in a burka. 618 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: And that brings me to another. 619 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 2: Point for the prosecution, since they didn't ask me. In Iran, 620 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 2: women are treated the way Shawn Combs allegedly treated these 621 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 2: victims every day, beaten, degraded, humiliated, forced to live by 622 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 2: the man's rules, and then the man is shot when 623 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: the woman is a quote grateful and one of seawan 624 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: Combe's missives, he said, every other woman would be so. 625 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: Happy to be in your shoes. Who's he talking to? 626 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh? The woman with a fat lip and the plastic 627 00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: surgery for the cut over her eye. 628 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: I mean, go on. 629 00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 2: Bring up Iran year Agos, bring it up steal and 630 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 2: just see what the state fires back at you. What 631 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: about that fitzgibbons Iran my rear end. 632 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, they're making no attempt to rehabilitate, you know, witnesses 633 00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:15,359 Speaker 6: that have been up there rehabilitate Diddy's image, and they're 634 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 6: going to distract with Iran. You know, maybe that's a 635 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 6: place that Diddy would fit right in at if this 636 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 6: trial works out for him, maybe he can move there. 637 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 2: Free coughs King Night, Hotel Night, Wild King Night. She 638 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 2: was hot and bothered, licking his lips, gross, rubbing his 639 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 2: hands together. Ew And just be clear when we're talking 640 00:34:35,080 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: about licking his lips and rubbing his hands together. 641 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:44,239 Speaker 1: That was watching the free cough video of his the. 642 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: Second love of his life, the first love of his 643 00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:49,320 Speaker 2: life being kim Porter, the second one being Cassie Ventura 644 00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,840 Speaker 2: being forced to have sex with three male sex workers 645 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,359 Speaker 2: and licking the lips, rubbing the hands together. 646 00:34:56,480 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: And demanding extra time to watch the video from the judge. 647 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: Not a good look, that said. 648 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,839 Speaker 2: That's what we were just talking about and speaking of 649 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:11,879 Speaker 2: a good look. Now, while he is haggling over bills 650 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:17,480 Speaker 2: that he owes with overde balances and forcing his love 651 00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: objects to fly cut rate airlines, let's take a look 652 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 2: at what Diddy's doing in his spare time. Wow, Okay, 653 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:31,360 Speaker 2: the full on a beauty treatment. That's from Ditty's official instagram. 654 00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 2: I take at Sidney Sumner. This is not behind bars 655 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 2: at the NDC, is it? 656 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 12: Absolutely not? 657 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 14: Diddy would not be receiving this kind of treatment at 658 00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 14: the MDC, which is apparently on his last legs and 659 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,160 Speaker 14: not a great place to be housed. But Nancy, this 660 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 14: was back for a birthday I believe almost ten years ago, 661 00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 14: and Combs posted a series of photos bringing his followers 662 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 14: into everything that he does to prepare for a special 663 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:00,640 Speaker 14: event Sidney. 664 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 2: Okay, you know what, Obviously I've had no effect on 665 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 2: Sydney Sumner at all because Lynn Shaw I believe she 666 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,240 Speaker 2: just referred to a free cough as a special event. 667 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 2: It's special, all right, special to the prosecutors that have 668 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:18,640 Speaker 2: charged in with sex trafficking. 669 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,680 Speaker 12: Special event? What are we talking about? What have we 670 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,560 Speaker 12: seen video evidence of? I mean special event? 671 00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: You know what? 672 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 12: I'm falling out of my chair. I really am, I 673 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 12: can't contain myself. This is sex trafficking, this is I'm 674 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 12: going to go back. I am a broken record. Nancy 675 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:38,279 Speaker 12: force broad coersion upon women, and I'm going to even 676 00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 12: maintain some men. And I'm going to throw into the 677 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 12: mix today that you know, we don't even use the 678 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 12: term A lot of us in this, you know, working 679 00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,080 Speaker 12: in the sex trade against it. We don't use sex 680 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 12: worker because we don't believe sex is work, work is 681 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 12: not sex. Because we have so many studies upwards of 682 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 12: ninety seven percent that tell us those people in the 683 00:36:56,480 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 12: sex trade, including strippers, including these sex workers from cowboy angels, 684 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 12: angel cowboys, wherever they're coming from, that they were forced 685 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 12: into this sex trade. So again I'm going to go 686 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 12: back to I don't know, we're watching videos of him. 687 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:12,480 Speaker 12: I see three or four women pampering him. You know what, 688 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,480 Speaker 12: I wish all the women who were abused right we're 689 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 12: getting that kind of pampering treatment. I wish everybody would 690 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 12: talk more about the victims and survivors of some kind 691 00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 12: of monster, this triple D monster that we've had to 692 00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:27,400 Speaker 12: endure for the last now seven weeks and multiple months. 693 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,760 Speaker 12: And you know what, he's got to go down because 694 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 12: I can't field any more phone calls, text messages, emails 695 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:35,640 Speaker 12: from women begging me, what's going to happen? Is he 696 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:37,640 Speaker 12: going to be held responsible? Because you know what, there's 697 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,839 Speaker 12: a lot of dirty ditties out there, so we got 698 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,000 Speaker 12: to see one of them being held accountable, and he's 699 00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,160 Speaker 12: got to go down. And I hope we hear about 700 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:46,040 Speaker 12: this by next week. 701 00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: Eric Fattus joining me, I've a try a lawyer, founding 702 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: partner of Varner Fattest Elite Legal. Eric, I've been thinking 703 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 2: a lot about the defense decision not to put their 704 00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,279 Speaker 2: own client on the stand, that was a given at 705 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,440 Speaker 2: the get go, but not bringing any defense witnesses at 706 00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 2: all in the defense of Shawn Combs, that's a big, 707 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 2: big gamble, Eric Fattus, But I've been thinking about the 708 00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: reasoning Fattest think about who could they bring on? Anyone 709 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,840 Speaker 2: that was a witness to the so called free coughs 710 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,799 Speaker 2: would likely have to testify that they were paid sex workers, 711 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,880 Speaker 2: or that the women were beaten at some point or 712 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:29,760 Speaker 2: they were drugged. 713 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: Who else could. 714 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: Come on good character? Once the defense brings on good 715 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 2: character of Shawn Combs, the steak can then bring on 716 00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:40,680 Speaker 2: bad character. 717 00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: And what I'm talking about fattest. 718 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:47,800 Speaker 2: Is those dozens of women, dozens and dozens, there's a total. 719 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: Free number for them, Eric Fattus to call that. 720 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:54,920 Speaker 2: Are filing civil suits claiming they were drugged and raped 721 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,399 Speaker 2: at free coughs. So who are going to bring in 722 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,279 Speaker 2: somebody that was at a freak caff that could backfire 723 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 2: on cross examination or a good character witness can't do 724 00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:07,760 Speaker 2: that either, So the defense's hands are really tied. 725 00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 1: Who can they bring on, Eric Nancy? 726 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,799 Speaker 5: The defense does have several options. I suppose they could 727 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:17,319 Speaker 5: bring on other affiliates, a bad boy who would get 728 00:39:17,360 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 5: up there, presumably and say, hey, look, bad boy never 729 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 5: paid for any of these freak offs. There was never 730 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:26,960 Speaker 5: anything criminal of which I was aware. There was never 731 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,360 Speaker 5: anything that rose to the level of sex trafficking, and 732 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:34,359 Speaker 5: that everything looked consensual. If they had such witnesses, those 733 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 5: would be really valuable to bring up and put onto 734 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,040 Speaker 5: the stand. The fact that they're not calling any such 735 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 5: witnesses does kind of raise the specter of, you know, 736 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,880 Speaker 5: is there anyone from bad boy who could actually get 737 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,520 Speaker 5: up there and truthfully say that. 738 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:55,000 Speaker 2: We are headed to a verdict watt here at Crime Stories, fatus. 739 00:39:55,160 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 2: I don't know if you ever did this, but I 740 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 2: would always stand by and the courtroom, waiting, waiting to 741 00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 2: hear the zzz buzzer that would go off in the 742 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 2: courtroom when the jury would rely like that they had 743 00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 2: a verdict. It's going to be excruciating waiting for this 744 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:19,400 Speaker 2: jury to come back guilty, not guilty, hung or split. 745 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead, give me your best bet. 746 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. I just handled a homicide case and the jury 747 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,600 Speaker 5: was out for about a day. I was biting my 748 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,520 Speaker 5: fingernails the whole time. Mine was a complete not guilty. 749 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 5: But in this case, you know, I think there is 750 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 5: probably substantial evidence of the interstate transportation for prostitution that 751 00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 5: might be guilty. That being said, that's the least serious 752 00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,160 Speaker 5: charge here. I think the jury could conclude that Bad 753 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,719 Speaker 5: Boy was not a criminal enterprise. They could conclude that 754 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:54,000 Speaker 5: these freak offs were consensual, and if they do, that 755 00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 5: is a huge black eye to the government. Even if 756 00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 5: they are wins on the least serious charge. Who cares 757 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:01,760 Speaker 5: Dinny's proba you get time, zert n saw. 758 00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 2: Where would that leave the victims of this and every 759 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,800 Speaker 2: other sex trafficking case? 760 00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,800 Speaker 12: Yeah, Well, here, Nancy, it leaves them with never coming forward. 761 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:14,239 Speaker 12: We hear this time and time again. We saw with 762 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:17,080 Speaker 12: the Epstein case. Why should I come forward? Why should 763 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,800 Speaker 12: I upbrout my life? Why should I subject my family 764 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:22,879 Speaker 12: to it? Why should I subject myself to embarrassment? This 765 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 12: case has to stick in one way, shape or form. 766 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,280 Speaker 12: We have so much proof here. In my opinion, again, 767 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:32,240 Speaker 12: this goes to what we're working with at the Warriors, 768 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 12: NonStop educating the justice system about something called forced servitude. Again, 769 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 12: it is a description of human trafficking equals sex trafficking. 770 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 12: And we see these women beaten, We see Cassie. I 771 00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 12: am praying that this jury, no matter what goes down 772 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,400 Speaker 12: when they're in that room, because people are visual, no 773 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 12: matter what. They may not even understand legal stuff or whatever, 774 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:57,360 Speaker 12: but they're visual. They will remain. They will that video 775 00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 12: will remain in their brains of her being kicked, dragged 776 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 12: running away barefoot down a hallway and he keeps kicking 777 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:06,560 Speaker 12: her and she's just on the floor, not even moving, 778 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,479 Speaker 12: and the women out in the ocean and they didn't 779 00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 12: come in to say we're afraid of him. He's menacing. 780 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 12: He's there on the beach, pacing back and forth. I 781 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 12: am praying that that's what sticks in their minds and 782 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,080 Speaker 12: they do something again. People are visual, and we have 783 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 12: to think of all of this case. We're not talking 784 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:25,239 Speaker 12: enough about victims and survivors, even overall of sex trafficking, 785 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:29,160 Speaker 12: of labor trafficking, of human trafficking. This case is all 786 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 12: that put together in one. So I'm just going to 787 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,319 Speaker 12: pray here because I have to be the strong one, 788 00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,680 Speaker 12: the warrior for all these victims and survivors of sexual 789 00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,879 Speaker 12: exploitation out there. 790 00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:42,399 Speaker 1: As we wait for the verdict watch. 791 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: To commence, we remember an American hero, Deputy share Bradley Reckling, 792 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 2: Oakland County Sheriffs, just thirty years old, shot dead in 793 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 2: the line of duty, served nine years and leaves behind 794 00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:04,480 Speaker 2: his wife Jack, and there are four little children. American 795 00:43:04,520 --> 00:43:13,600 Speaker 2: hero Deputy Sheriff Bradley Reckling. Nancy Gray signing off goodbye friend.