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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: It is Tuesday, July seventh, twenty twenty, and it is time,

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Speaker 2: Donks for Morning Combat. Hi everyone, top oh of the

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Speaker 2: morning to you. My name is Luke Thomas. I'm one

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Speaker 2: half of your host and Dulo. The gentleman on the

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Speaker 2: CBS Sports. He's the conspiracy to my theory, the one

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Speaker 2: and only Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian, longtime No Sea guy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, a little bit of a Tuesday special here,

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Speaker 3: but it will be worth it because Luke, we have

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Speaker 3: a lot to celebrate today on MK. Not just the

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Speaker 3: holding together during these uncertain times. But beyond that, Luke,

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Speaker 2: Certainly are a couple of things here we should say

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Speaker 2: actually to start the show. Number one, thanks to everyone

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Speaker 2: who has been along this journey. Morning Combat got started

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Speaker 2: July eighth, twenty nineteen, so as of tomorrow, this is

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Speaker 2: one year in the making. This is basically our one

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Speaker 3: And Luke, it's not just one year from where we started,

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Speaker 3: It's episode fifty this week. So, like you mentioned, you

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Speaker 3: And we've had a lot of help from our friends here, Luke,

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Speaker 3: Jay in our ear hole Showtime promoting and producing us,

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Speaker 3: the great Chuck Mendenhall filling in al Jamaine Sterling as

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Speaker 3: And people can probably subscribe to Showtime for free if

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Speaker 2: The argument is that while they're both well rounded, they

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Speaker 3: Well, look, I don't think if you're going on just

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Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns might be or well rounded. Right, we can

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Speaker 4: easier of a preparation for Jorge? Maybe? Right?

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Speaker 3: And if you look at their differences, Oh, if he

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think this is one of those situations, Luke,

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Speaker 4: Notice, we're in the midst of a quarantine.

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Speaker 3: There are so many things right now that typically would

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Speaker 3: of times you say, how the hell's masvidoal gonna cut

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Speaker 4: He here's the deal. He's one of those rare dudes

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Speaker 3: In the chaos. He's unflappable. He's used to the chaos.

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Speaker 3: but he just outwitted the UFC. Right, he just made

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Speaker 3: they came to him. He has all the house money

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Speaker 3: right now that even though Usman is your rightful betting favorite,

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Speaker 3: just you know, Mazbdal is really damn good, right, he

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Speaker 4: If you go back and watch those three fights last year.

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Speaker 3: He's so explosive in different parts of the game inclosed

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Speaker 4: He's got a lot of good stuff going on there.

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Speaker 3: I think Usman is a little bit too in love

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Speaker 3: if he goes in there and dramatically be Torreye Masl.

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Speaker 4: But Luke, I don't know if you've interviewed him.

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Speaker 3: you watch the Covington fight? And what I want to

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Speaker 4: I mean it was entertainment. It was a blood and

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Speaker 3: And I got a fear for Usman, Luke that when

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Speaker 3: blanks Jorge for five rounds and wins, okay, it's a

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Speaker 3: people don't value that on the casual commercial level. The

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Speaker 3: I got news for you.

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Speaker 4: You already know this answer. This is the one way

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Speaker 3: Mano Imano against Jorge and Mozvid also live dog because

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Speaker 3: I actually believe, as wild as this is at thirty five,

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Speaker 3: I mean, fortunes can flip quickly in UFC, Luke, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very quickly, because we got to get to these

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Speaker 2: other fighters that he signs. But in terms of Jorge,

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Speaker 2: if he wins here, I think it sets up a

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Speaker 2: I mean, if that doesn't bring Connor back to the

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Speaker 2: So that would be huge. On the other hand, if

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Speaker 2: to his star power. You're right, how he does, it

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Speaker 2: which means he will be the most senior fighter in

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Speaker 2: this late. Most guys who are really, really good, who

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Speaker 2: from his skill set. We're gonna see what the full

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Speaker 2: It's not good enough for that. But that would be

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Speaker 2: one of the most stunning late career what do you

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Speaker 2: want to call it, blossomings that we've ever seen. Michael

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Speaker 4: But the difference in bisbeing is he was already considered

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Speaker 2: What's he gonna do with it? We'll see, But if

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Speaker 3: We've seen a couple of rags of riches stories in boxing,

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Speaker 4: Has right here.

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Speaker 3: So this is this is kind of unprecedented, Luke, in

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Speaker 3: it's hard not to cheer for him. Straight up, it's

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Speaker 2: Let's go to point two if we can. A gentleman

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Speaker 2: takes on Alexander Volkanowski for the second time and he

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Speaker 2: did an interview recently BC with Ario Hawani on ESPN,

433
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Speaker 2: and what he said was, listen, the quarantine in Hawaii

434
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Speaker 2: was no joke. If they found you in the gym,

435
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Speaker 2: they would arrest you. He didn't spar for this fight.

436
00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,760
Speaker 2: He trained, obviously, but he hadn't seen his coaches. The

437
00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,800
Speaker 2: first time he saw his coaches was when he went

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Speaker 2: to the airport to leave to go to Abu Dhabi.

439
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Speaker 2: He trained over zoom BC. I have to ask should

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Speaker 2: he have taken this fight again?

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Speaker 4: He's one of those guys, right I mentioned Masvidal thrives

442
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:07,600
Speaker 4: in chaos.

443
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Speaker 3: I'm done betting against Max Holloway. Luke, I'm done. I've

444
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Speaker 3: done it so many times. I actually talked to him

445
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Speaker 3: yesterday for an interview that'll run on the CBS Sports

446
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Speaker 3: Date of Combat podcast this week. In a spoiler alert,

447
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,959
Speaker 3: here's the interview. Here's his answers. It is what it

448
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Speaker 3: is Eleventh Island. Baby, a magician never tells his tricks.

449
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,440
Speaker 3: I'm a fighter at my heart.

450
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Speaker 4: It is what it is.

451
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Speaker 3: Oh and an eleventh Island shout out as well. So

452
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Speaker 3: this is an incredible poker face because he told me

453
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Speaker 3: the same things. Look, I trained over zoom. I didn't

454
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Speaker 3: spar blah blah blah. But he also very subtly, and

455
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Speaker 3: I'm sure there's jet lag and a lot of that

456
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Speaker 3: going into it. Was just like, look, man, I could

457
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Speaker 3: lose five times in a row to Volkanowski.

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Speaker 4: My legacy is set. I have no pressure.

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Speaker 3: And look, I think to a large degree, while we

460
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Speaker 3: know that's his default personality, so I'm less inclined to

461
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Speaker 3: worry about him. I think he's also you know, playing

462
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Speaker 3: poker with us. I think he's also coming in here

463
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Speaker 3: like yeah, what, I have no pressure. And I also

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Speaker 3: think he's gonna take back his championship Luke. Because if

465
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Speaker 3: there was ever a time to count him out, it

466
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Speaker 3: was that crazy year.

467
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Speaker 4: It was a twenty eighteen when he had to pull.

468
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Speaker 3: Out of two straight fights and the weight issues and

469
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Speaker 3: that random Michael Bisping interview that we thought like, does

470
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Speaker 3: he have you know, early onset problems does he need

471
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Speaker 3: to get out of this sport?

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Speaker 4: What the hell's going on? But what did he do

473
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Speaker 4: after that? Luke?

474
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Speaker 3: He went into war with Ortega and came out shining

475
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Speaker 3: every time. I think like maybe the damage is caught

476
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Speaker 3: up to him early all this other stuff. Look, he

477
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 3: just kicks that door down and shows you he is

478
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Speaker 3: at all time great. You're watching a guy author in

479
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Speaker 3: all time great resume. Is there more pressure on him

480
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Speaker 3: right now to keep that going in that direction?

481
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Speaker 4: Yes, you don't want. Look historically boxing.

482
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Speaker 3: And MM at the highest levels you lose twice in

483
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Speaker 3: a row to the same guy on the title level,

484
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Speaker 3: you tend to not be the same to some degree

485
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Speaker 3: after that. But Luke, that first fight was not Max

486
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Speaker 3: Volkanovsky put out an incredible game plan. He disarmed him,

487
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Speaker 3: Yet Max rallied in the final two round and made

488
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Speaker 3: it pretty damn close. I just don't know, Luke. I

489
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Speaker 3: love Volkanowski, I love City Kickboxing. I love what you

490
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Speaker 3: do for me here, sir, But at the end of

491
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Speaker 3: the day, can you do that twice to a fighter

492
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Speaker 3: as great as Max Holloway? Because I went back and

493
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Speaker 3: rewatched that first one, Remember what he said in the

494
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Speaker 3: post fight interview said, look, guys, I'm twenty eight, I'm young.

495
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Speaker 4: I'm still learning, you know, like I'm gonna be back,

496
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Speaker 4: and I tend to.

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Speaker 3: Believe that, Luke, he's got the length, he's got the

498
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Speaker 3: ability to both lead off the combinations and finish them

499
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Speaker 3: with big blows. You know, he got confused, he got

500
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Speaker 3: out worked, he got outsolved in the first three rounds

501
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Speaker 3: of their first fight against a great fighter. But show

502
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Speaker 3: me you can do that twice. Show me you can

503
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Speaker 3: do that for ten rounds. I don't know, dude, I'm

504
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:44,360
Speaker 3: telling you right now. There are rare species in this game.

505
00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,680
Speaker 3: Mazvedal is one of them. Holloway's another one. They're just fighters, Luke.

506
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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter. They could fight on the plane on

507
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Speaker 3: the way over. Okay, it doesn't matter. They're gonna be

508
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 3: there at the end of the day. Don't be surprised

509
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Speaker 3: if that belt's going back to Hawaii, Luke, I'm telling

510
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Speaker 3: you right now, Okay, tell your friends, tell you well,

511
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 3: I tell you are Bila Okay, please, I will.

512
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Speaker 2: Be surprised if the belt is on the way back

513
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Speaker 2: to Hawaii and it's not because I disagree necessarily with

514
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Speaker 2: your assessment of who Max Holloway is here and how

515
00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 2: smart he is up here? Oh, I think all those

516
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,440
Speaker 2: things are true. I've spent more time examining the x's

517
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Speaker 2: and o's of Max Holloway's career than I have any

518
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Speaker 2: other fighter, because I have that much of a high

519
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Speaker 2: regard for it. He is special in all the ways

520
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Speaker 2: that you say he is special. But the initial question

521
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Speaker 2: I asked you was should he have taken this fight? No,

522
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Speaker 2: he should not have taken this fight. I think this

523
00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,120
Speaker 2: was a mistake for him, to be quite honest with you. Now,

524
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Speaker 2: does that mean he can't win?

525
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Speaker 4: Hold it?

526
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Speaker 2: Hold on? Does that mean he can't win? Of course not.

527
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Speaker 2: If you're as talented as Max Holloway, you can. The

528
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 2: question is is this the right strategic play? I do

529
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Speaker 2: not think it is the right strategic play. And it's

530
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Speaker 2: a nice thing to say, you know, ninth Island or

531
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Speaker 2: eleventh Island or whatever number island we are on at

532
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Speaker 2: this point, and it is what it is. And again,

533
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Speaker 2: those are the reasons that we love Max and he

534
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: is and I've that he's the first true ambidextrous fighter

535
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Speaker 2: in UFC because he is, I would argue, some might disagree,

536
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,600
Speaker 2: but I would argue he's basically as good in either stance.

537
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,200
Speaker 2: It just he can function however he needs to, depending

538
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,879
Speaker 2: on the particular puzzle that he's trying to solve. He

539
00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: can circle in either direction. Folks, been I realize this,

540
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,480
Speaker 2: but he did opposite circling against Jose ay Aldo. First

541
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 2: time he circled into his powerhand. I think second time

542
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 2: he went the other way. It totally confused the guy.

543
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Speaker 2: I mean, it was amazing how he took that title

544
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Speaker 2: and then demanded respect in the welterweight excuse me, the

545
00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 2: featherweight division. But we keep talking about how much we

546
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:35,879
Speaker 2: like Max without saying the I think what needs to

547
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 2: be said here. We don't like Alexander Volkanovsky enough. I

548
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,960
Speaker 2: do not think people are in touch with how talented

549
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 2: he is. I do not think people understand how good

550
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,960
Speaker 2: his game is. I do not think that he gets

551
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Speaker 2: enough appreciation. He is easily the most underappreciated fan, excuse me,

552
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 2: a champion in the UFC by both media and fans.

553
00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:58,719
Speaker 2: They're just as guilty. Let me say something about this

554
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: in term of his camouflage that he puts on, what

555
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 2: he does to confuse and conceal his striking he's arguably

556
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 2: the best in the UFC. He is in that on

557
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 2: that level, he is on par with Adasania, if not

558
00:25:15,240 --> 00:25:17,560
Speaker 2: a little bit better. Okay, now that doesn't mean he's

559
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: the hardest hitter. That doesn't mean that the totality of

560
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 2: all the things he can do in striking are as

561
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: well rounded. But in terms of that cover, concealment and camouflage,

562
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,680
Speaker 2: he's your apex predator. And the reason why he beat

563
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,919
Speaker 2: Max the first time is because Max stood there for

564
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Speaker 2: about twenty three twenty four minutes and just didn't know

565
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,199
Speaker 2: what he was looking at. They could not get a

566
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: beat on the guy, and he routinely landed on him.

567
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: People keep saying, oh, it is the leg kicks. It

568
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,879
Speaker 2: is not the leg kicks. The leg kicks is merely

569
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:49,520
Speaker 2: a manifestation of all the confusion that he sowed in

570
00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:52,439
Speaker 2: all of those little moments. Dude, No one has been

571
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 2: able to even get close to figuring this guy out.

572
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 2: They keep talking about that South Paul stance. All that

573
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 2: did was take away the cover hand on the right

574
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 2: side of Konovsky. He still did pretty well. No matter

575
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Speaker 2: what that is, what he is up against. Here's the point,

576
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:07,040
Speaker 2: here's my point. Hold on hold on, No, I want

577
00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 2: to ask, I'm not, I'm not, I'm hosting.

578
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 4: I'm not.

579
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Speaker 2: I'm not immune to the idea that Max can't figure

580
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: that out. But it's only been six months. He didn't

581
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 2: get to spar and he had to train with his

582
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 2: coaches on zoom. Max can beat Volkanovsky. I think it's

583
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 2: a strategic mistake to do it BC under these circumstances.

584
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Speaker 3: Well, I will counter that just once by saying it's

585
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 3: a it's a it's a bad situation for everybody, like

586
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 3: life is turned upside down here. I know there's less

587
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,400
Speaker 3: cases in New Zealand and Australia if you spar more.

588
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,399
Speaker 3: I also think Max, by the way, is playing poker

589
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 3: with us. But let me ask you this, Luke. Do

590
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 3: you agree that Max did make an adjustment in four

591
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: and five enough in that first fight to not only

592
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:47,879
Speaker 3: win those last two rounds pretty clearly, but show you

593
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 3: that again, we don't do six and seven round fights.

594
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,159
Speaker 3: But had that been the case, he may have been

595
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Speaker 3: able to turn that around.

596
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 2: No, I thought he won one of the two I

597
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: thought he was on. I can't remember it was the

598
00:26:57,640 --> 00:26:59,480
Speaker 2: fourth or the fifth. I'd have to go back and look,

599
00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 2: I think he took one of those two. But I

600
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:07,639
Speaker 2: also had a long conversation with the folks in Volkanovsky's

601
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 2: corner and what they saw, and then when I when

602
00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 2: I sort of interpreted what they saw and I rewatched

603
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,600
Speaker 2: it that that fight is not as close as people

604
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: think that it is. It's just not it's not. It

605
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,639
Speaker 2: wasn't that Max took some tremendous beating. Of course, not

606
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 2: that that is not the reality. No, But the question

607
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: is did he get a beat on what Alex was doing?

608
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: Very little? Very little? And I don't think folks understand

609
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 2: just how advanced Volkanovsky is because we love Max so

610
00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 2: much because to your point, he has been so good.

611
00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: He's an ambassador for the game. Just before the show BC,

612
00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 2: he announced that he was going to be auctioning off

613
00:27:40,760 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: his Fight Kid afterwards because he was so humbled and

614
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: impressed by Norma Gamadov, by Dustin Parie. Dude, that's why

615
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 2: we liked Max Holloway, because he can fight his ass off.

616
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 2: He obeyed COVID protocols when so many people wouldn't, and

617
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 2: he's he's just a good guy in the game. There's

618
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 2: just not that many and we we love him for that.

619
00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. But listen,

620
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,000
Speaker 2: look at what Billy Joe Saunders said this week. We

621
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 2: talk about boxing all the time. That he was partly

622
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,640
Speaker 2: complaining about money BC, but what was his other complaint.

623
00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:08,600
Speaker 2: He's like, dude, I can't train properly for this fight.

624
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna take on Canelo. And he walked away

625
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 2: from a Canelo fight. You can say whatever you want

626
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,960
Speaker 2: about how smart it is or not, but the reality is, dude,

627
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 2: he's not gonna go fight Canelo on some improper camp.

628
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 2: I understand that. I completely understand that, don't you.

629
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 4: I do, I do.

630
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 3: I just again, if I'm gonna believe partially that Max

631
00:28:28,359 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 3: is playing poker, then I'm gonna believe he's watching an

632
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 3: insane amount of video from that first fight. And if

633
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna believe Luke, which I do, that Max did

634
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 3: make an adjustment there in the championship rounds to make

635
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 3: that a close fight.

636
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 4: I don't think he won.

637
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: I had three to two firmly for Volkanovski from cage side,

638
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 3: but I think that he figured out the voodoo that

639
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 3: he do in their early part of the fight. And

640
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,800
Speaker 3: now I ask you this, Luke, if Max, if we're

641
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,360
Speaker 3: gonna believe that Max will have a better performance in

642
00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 3: the second fight than the first, if you believe that

643
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 3: coming in that he can see what he did wrong,

644
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,400
Speaker 3: see how he was disarmed, see how he can learn

645
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 3: how to get off first. Because Max is a master

646
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,840
Speaker 3: really of two things, right, controlling distance and making you

647
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: fight his fight.

648
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 4: Dictating the terms of it.

649
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 3: Volkanovski was really one of the first guys that took

650
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: that away from him. It wasn't like Volkanowski was just

651
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 3: the heavier counterpuncher and he made him change his game.

652
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 3: Volkanowski took the fight away from him, Luke, Can he

653
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: do that for ten rounds A and B? Maybe more important,

654
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:27,360
Speaker 3: does Volkanowski have a plan B where he can trade

655
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 3: with Max if he needs to on even terms, not

656
00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 3: on hunt and peck, not on you know, you gotta

657
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 3: play my chess game, and I'm gonna come from you know,

658
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 3: awkward foot angles and movements. Let's say Max does not

659
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 3: have the same issues with the footwork, the timing, the

660
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:43,560
Speaker 3: angles that he did the first time, and this becomes

661
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 3: more of a fight. Luke, I don't know how you

662
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: can favor Volkanowski in the rematch.

663
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 2: If it becomes that, I think it's anybody's fight at

664
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 2: that point. I wouldn't under I wouldn't count Volkanovsky out,

665
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 2: but I would agree that would be a very different

666
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: fight at that point. The only thing I'll say that

667
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: I think is probably good for Holloway is to your point.

668
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,320
Speaker 2: I mean, he's taking a lot of damage recently, probably

669
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 2: both in camp and then in those fights. I don't

670
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 2: think it's ideal that he had no sparring, if that's

671
00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: in fact the reality. But what I can say is

672
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,400
Speaker 2: it probably is good. It gave his body a break.

673
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 2: I think that has got to be true, no matter

674
00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 2: what you think. So it's not I think a net positive,

675
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: But I think that part is going to make him

676
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,239
Speaker 2: a little bit fresher for this contest, a little bit

677
00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,440
Speaker 2: more dialed in. He's not gonna walk in there all

678
00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 2: banged up and bruised. But I think this is just

679
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:31,080
Speaker 2: the thing we have to wrap our head around. If

680
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 2: Max loses, dude, I don't know where he goes from here.

681
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: Right If he wins, Okay, all this forget I'm wrong,

682
00:30:37,120 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 2: Ali Crow. I love Max. I don't want him to lose.

683
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: I just don't think this was his optimal opportunity. But

684
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: if he does BC, is he gonna go to one

685
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: fifty five? We now, maybe he can bulk up there

686
00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,360
Speaker 2: and do it more properly, but it's not like he

687
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 2: has tremendous firepower. One forty five. He's got good firepower,

688
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 2: but against Dustin he had overmatched. And now he'd have

689
00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 2: to go back there because he's not gonna be Volkanovski.

690
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 2: If you lose twice, it's risky. Dude, you lose this one,

691
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 2: you gotta walk the plank a little bit.

692
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: That's a legit setback if he loses from that, from

693
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 3: which directions his career heading? And oh, there are big

694
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 3: enough names in featherweight, I mean, good God, would you

695
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 3: love them against you know, the zombie or take a rematch?

696
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 3: I mean, there's so many great fights you can make,

697
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 3: But I agree with you on that. Would you be

698
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,240
Speaker 3: willing though? On our fiftieth episode, Luke to put something

699
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:21,840
Speaker 3: on the line here?

700
00:31:21,880 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about scratch.

701
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: I know what's in your wallet, Okay, I don't need it,

702
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 3: all right, I'm talking about maybe like putting your eyebrows up.

703
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 4: What are you gonna put up against this?

704
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:32,320
Speaker 2: For me listen, I don't. I mean, you know you

705
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,760
Speaker 2: want me to which way I'm leaning? I lean Volkanovsky

706
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: for all the reasons aforementioned. I don't want to count

707
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 2: Max out. This is the only thing that just bugs me.

708
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: It makes me feel like I have to speak out

709
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 2: and be like Max is gonna lose and this is

710
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 2: terrible and the sky is falling. I just don't think

711
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 2: it was smart to take this opportunity. The only thing

712
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 2: that just sticks out to me, BC, the only thing

713
00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 2: I keep coming back to is everybody loves Max. You

714
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 2: love Max, I love Max, people watching the show love Max.

715
00:31:56,960 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: Every You can't be a real fight fan say you

716
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: don't like Max. The problem is I don't see enough

717
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 2: of that same love extended to Volkanovsky, either in terms

718
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: of respect for his game or just being a father

719
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,959
Speaker 2: of two girls. Folks, Just don't you gotta put some

720
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 2: respect on his name? Y'all.

721
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: It's a short look. Look, he's the new kid in town.

722
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: I know, I look, he's got some great victories, but

723
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: it's such a shorter amount compared to in all time

724
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 3: great in Max.

725
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 2: Come on, Luke, come on, all right, fair enough, what

726
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,720
Speaker 2: to see what happens? But let's move on to topic

727
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: number three. We have one more title on this card, BC,

728
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 2: So with that in mind, we've got a vacant ban

729
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,239
Speaker 2: Samway title, Peter Jan taking on Joe ze Aldo. All right,

730
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 2: b C. Interesting question for you here, I got. We'll

731
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 2: pitch to you one more time because I'm in the

732
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 2: title given mood. Here's an interesting one right In the

733
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 2: other two title fights, somebody already has the title. In

734
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: this particular case, it is open. So let me ask

735
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 2: the question this way. What does the winner get with

736
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: the title. How does it transform each of their careers?

737
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 3: Well, the winner, the winner gets a bu load of

738
00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: tough matchups in a great division. But it is uh,

739
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 3: there's two different stories coming in here, right, I mean,

740
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: Peter Jan, Peyo Trey Payotah.

741
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 4: What's the latest pronunciation.

742
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: On the huasca?

743
00:33:14,720 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, auah, thank you, thank you very much. There shout

744
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: out to sugar Shot Evans.

745
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 4: Uh. Yeah, Look, Peter Jan. I'm gonna go with Peter.

746
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 3: He's a potential rising stud of this division, along obviously

747
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 3: with Aljamaine Sterling. And if he wins, you have two

748
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 3: young guys that could be the face of this division

749
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: for a while that will face off so it's really just, uh,

750
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 3: you know, it would make good of all the great

751
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 3: potential that Yan has showed, and every step up along

752
00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: the way in every category he's crossed off the box

753
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 3: he's showing you legitimately he could very well be a

754
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 3: future star. It's so much more interesting with jose Aldo here, Luke,

755
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 3: And we've already been up and down the road about

756
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 3: how much he doesn't deserve this title shot, love him

757
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 3: or not, and I've grown to love the man and

758
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,479
Speaker 3: love what he stands for in his legacy and all

759
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 3: that we're not talking enough about really what this could

760
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 3: do to his legacy, Luke. Obviously, if he wins, you

761
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: know he's gonna get a bevy of young names right

762
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,280
Speaker 3: after that to fight. But I think, Luke, it's not

763
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,560
Speaker 3: incorrect to say that, even though you couldn't find anyone

764
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:13,280
Speaker 3: on the planet who doesn't look at although right now

765
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:15,359
Speaker 3: as one of the all time grates, right, but there's

766
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:18,200
Speaker 3: levels to all time greatness. I think Connor's one punch

767
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 3: knockout in twenty fifteen it took a lot of the

768
00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,680
Speaker 3: air out of the balloon of him being a potential

769
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 3: upper room goat level guy. And I really do believe that,

770
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 3: even though he's bounced back in one back of the

771
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,440
Speaker 3: interim title and it became the full title, and he's

772
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: traded wins and losses since then. I just think that

773
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 3: back then we looked at this guy as like a

774
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 3: pillar in UFC's history. Now right now we look at

775
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,400
Speaker 3: him as another one of the all time greats that

776
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,359
Speaker 3: you put in there, maybe a second tier great.

777
00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 4: We don't talk about him as.

778
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 3: The goat with Silva, with GSP, with John Jones, etc.

779
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,720
Speaker 3: Maybe as much.

780
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 4: Maybe there's a reason for that. There's obviously a debate

781
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 4: within that, but.

782
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: What do we do with him, Luke? If he wins here,

783
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: there's almost this odd redemption. He never got that immediate

784
00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 3: rematch with Connor that he deserved, right, he'd been the

785
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 3: unbeaten champion that featherway for like a decade. He's like

786
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 3: the only great featherweight fighter we ever knew up to

787
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 3: that point he was the whole division. This is almost

788
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 3: his sort of backdoor opportunity to remind us where he

789
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 3: might belong historically, and it's an uphill battle. He's an

790
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 3: underdog for a reason, and stylistically in recent history. I

791
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 3: don't feel good about his chances, although obviously he's a

792
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 3: KO candidate at any time, but Luke, does he have

793
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 3: the opportunity, especially if he were able to knock out Yan,

794
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,239
Speaker 3: who I know doesn't have a giant resume, But you

795
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 3: get what I'm saying here. To catapult into that conversation again,

796
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,520
Speaker 3: will we be seeing him shoulder to shoulder with the

797
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 3: other giants if he becomes just the latest two division champion.

798
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 2: People always ask me who do you think the best

799
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: fighters are ever to live? And the answers are usually

800
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 2: pretty short. Right, you could say Demitrius Johnson, Amanda Nunas,

801
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:57,800
Speaker 2: I think now must be included in that conversation, John Jones,

802
00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: GSP and Anderson Silva, and the conversation tends to stop there.

803
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: And I've had people ask me repeatedly why don't you

804
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,759
Speaker 2: include Jose Aldo, And a lot of times I don't

805
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,319
Speaker 2: know that I have a good answer for it. Maybe

806
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 2: there is one, but I keep thinking, I'm like, I

807
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 2: don't know it, just I can't put him on par

808
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 2: with some of those other guys. And when I'm forced

809
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 2: to like defend it, I mean I probably could, and

810
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 2: maybe the strength of schedule, you know, some of the

811
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: knockout losses would disqualify them in a way that it

812
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,200
Speaker 2: wouldn't for John Jones for example. Okay, they mean there's

813
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 2: things you could look at there, But the same time,

814
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: you know, he certainly is somebody who has done everything

815
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,279
Speaker 2: you said incredible achievement inside the sport. Here's what I

816
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 2: think he gets if he wins BC. I think, I mean,

817
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 2: if he's not already in there, right and so I

818
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: think in the mind of Dana White, if he wins

819
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 2: this bansamweight title, there is absolutely no way you deny

820
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,640
Speaker 2: him the Hall of Fame. You just could not do it.

821
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 2: And at that point you would really be forced to

822
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: begin putting him on par with somebody like a Demetrius Johnson,

823
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 2: like a John Jones, like a Saint Pierre. It's got

824
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,919
Speaker 2: a lot of Saint Pierre elements too. Now, of course,

825
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 2: he has had a bit more of a difficult career

826
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 2: sojourn with those two stoppage losses to Max, the stoppage

827
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 2: loss to Connor. Although he did beat Frankie, you know,

828
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 2: obviously at one forty five, and he's had some other

829
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,320
Speaker 2: great moments, but he lost to Volkanovsky at one forty

830
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 2: five as well, that's partly why he's at one thirty five. Okay,

831
00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: so it's not the same, but the point being is,

832
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 2: in a late career opportunity, you went down to a

833
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 2: very competitive weight class and you got another belt that would,

834
00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 2: to me, would be I just can't overstate how transformative

835
00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:31,919
Speaker 2: it would be. And again there's people who's gonna be watching.

836
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 2: It's been like, he's already there, he already deserves to

837
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:37,439
Speaker 2: be taken seriously. Okay, maybe you believe that. What would

838
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 2: the addition of another belt do for that. It would

839
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 2: make it ironclad, it would make it not debatable. It

840
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 2: would make him in the pantheon of greats in a

841
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 2: way that his exclusion would then be weird rather than

842
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: being this kind of bubble Are you gonna play in

843
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 2: the nit Are you gonna play in the NCAA kind

844
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: of tournament scenario. It would absolutely just shift the debate

845
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: at that point. And so I wonder, actually, BC, if

846
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,799
Speaker 2: if he wins, does he stick around? Right? You said,

847
00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: if Peter Yan wins, mean he's got to face all

848
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 2: these dudes. You're gonna eventually face Corey Sandhagen, Al Jamaine

849
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 2: Sterling's on deck. I wonder if jose Aldo wins, What

850
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:14,360
Speaker 2: does he have to prove at that point, You've already

851
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 2: captured two belts. You're a little bit more senior in

852
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 2: your career. Do you want to go keep taking these

853
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 2: beatings and making these hillacious cuts to one hundred and

854
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:23,200
Speaker 2: thirty five pounds. I doubt that he does, or at

855
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 2: least up for very long. I wonder if he captures

856
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 2: the beltie see that this might be the Swan song.

857
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,400
Speaker 3: I mean, if he did that and control his exit

858
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 3: and his destiny that way, that'd be great. My brethren

859
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 3: at CBS Sports, my editor's pitched entirely different scenario. What

860
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 3: if he wins and then Danny goes, oh, great, next

861
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: fight against Frankie Edder, fight after that against your eyah favor.

862
00:38:43,440 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 4: Look at what these guys are cob accomplished.

863
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 3: We can justify this, I mean hopefully, not considering how

864
00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 3: deep in young this division is. I have fears about

865
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 3: his potential to win it, though, Luke, because I think

866
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 3: if you look back at his last four or five performances,

867
00:38:55,600 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: he certainly changed with age.

868
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 4: And while it's fun to see a guy who was

869
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 4: always so.

870
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 3: I mean, he controlled fights with those hard leg kicks,

871
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 3: he got off first, he made you fight his fight.

872
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:09,879
Speaker 3: Now he's evolved into almost like this celebrity bully counterpuncher.

873
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 3: I just don't think that style is gonna work against

874
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 3: a guy like jan who's younger, quicker, faster, maybe stronger

875
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 3: we're gonna find out, and seems to not really have

876
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:21,640
Speaker 3: any legitimate holes. Like it's one thing to stand in

877
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,440
Speaker 3: that mold and reinvent yourself, so to speak, and knock

878
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 3: out Amikano at Jeremy Stevens. Great wins for Jose Aldo,

879
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 3: but you remember when Volkanowski disarmed him and we just

880
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 3: didn't see life in although we didn't see an ability

881
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 3: to adjust. I think at this point, especially with cutting

882
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 3: down in Wait, he believes in his power. He knows

883
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,239
Speaker 3: he can take a beating and keep coming back. But

884
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 3: Luke for everyone said that Marlon Marie beat him in

885
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 3: that fight. Go rewatch the second half of that third round,

886
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 3: although just left the back door open.

887
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,399
Speaker 4: He just wasn't active enough.

888
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 3: And if he's gonna go in there and think my

889
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:55,919
Speaker 3: only chance to win is by knockout, then okay, ride

890
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 3: and die with that. But I've got this, you know,

891
00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 3: vision of Joseialdo going to the finish line after five

892
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 3: rounds and sort of being content when we're all looking

893
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: at going, look, you didn't throw enough strikes, you didn't

894
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,360
Speaker 3: do enough, And that's what I fear for this version

895
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: of them.

896
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, the last thing I'll say on Peter Yan is

897
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 2: if he wins, he'd be great, huge for his career. Right,

898
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,080
Speaker 2: heir to the throne of Henry sejudol Tho. Obviously wouldn't

899
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 2: have beaten him to god it, but still, you know

900
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: the guy afterwards and all that's great. But it's like,

901
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:23,480
Speaker 2: I'm really hesitant to be like, Okay, this is the

902
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 2: Peter Yan era. It's not that I don't believe that

903
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:29,920
Speaker 2: Peter Yan is very talented. I just think there's at

904
00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 2: his heels.

905
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:37,640
Speaker 4: Go ahead, welcome to the Machida era. Joe Rogan twenty twelve.

906
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just really hesitant to say that because Jesus

907
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: christ Man, there's a lot of tough dudes on the

908
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 2: top of that division, So it'd be great for him.

909
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:47,480
Speaker 2: Obviously winning a title is huge, but I don't know

910
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 2: about the rest of it. Okay, See we jump now

911
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 2: to point number four, Right, this card is stacked. We

912
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 2: go down the line. Ros Dama Unis in a rematch

913
00:40:56,800 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 2: with Jessica on droj OKAYBC, I was thinking about that one.

914
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,799
Speaker 2: What happens to the winner here? Should they get a

915
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: title shot? And I'll say BC, Yes, Yes, they should

916
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 2: get a title shot for two very important reasons. Number One,

917
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: who else would it be? Let me read you the

918
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 2: rankings right, So your champion is why Lee Jiang. Number

919
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 2: one contender is Jessica Androge. Number two is Rose no

920
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 2: A Unis. Now three is Tatiana Suarez. It'd be nice

921
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: to put her in the mix. She's training on Instagram,

922
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: but we don't know what the future is with her neck.

923
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: That's still all very much up in the air. And

924
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: then four is Yowani and Jchek, who I can admit

925
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:33,520
Speaker 2: had a not merely a Fight of the Year contender.

926
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,399
Speaker 2: That's maybe the best women's fight I've ever seen, though

927
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 2: it is in fact the best women's fight that I've

928
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: ever seen. But it was grueling and brutal, and I

929
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 2: thought yo Wana one, I really did. I knew it

930
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: was close, but I had it when it was over

931
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: three to two for Yoana. I understand that folks want

932
00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 2: to give that one another crack, okay, but here's my point,

933
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 2: number one, Jessica and Rose are sitting respectively number one,

934
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 2: number two. If this isn't a number one contenders fight,

935
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 2: I don't know what is. Secondly, I'm not opposed to

936
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: the idea that Yo wanna could go and fight the

937
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 2: winner of this, maybe because Tatiana is basically gonna be

938
00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 2: out of the running, or maybe you'll want to can

939
00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 2: fight the loser of this, if it's Rose or if

940
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: it's Jessica, depending right she would have you know, I'm

941
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 2: an unfinished business, but certainly she's got a past with

942
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 2: both of them. I think that's a path that she

943
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:16,680
Speaker 2: could take. But the reality is this, dude, that fight

944
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 2: was so unbelievably brutal, giving her more time to heal,

945
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: giving her more time to just figure it out, and

946
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 2: it was brutal for why Le Jiang. But she's a

947
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 2: little bit newer in his career in terms of these

948
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:33,040
Speaker 2: brutal five round UFC fights. Obviously she's got a lot

949
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 2: of fights numerically in her career. So for those reasons,

950
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 2: I think it actually should be. We want to see

951
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: exactly how good while Jiang is. The UFC wants to

952
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: market her in China, giving her some of these fresh matchups,

953
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 2: I think, and especially with Rose, if she ends up winning,

954
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: who is beloved and something of a celebrated figure inside

955
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 2: wider MMA circles, I think it'd be really good for her.

956
00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 2: It'd be a hell of an interesting fight, it'd keep

957
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: a division running. Yes, the winner of this should get

958
00:42:58,120 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: a title shot.

959
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: I think it depends on who wins, Luke, and I

960
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,920
Speaker 3: think there's a reason here, because if rosnami Yunis wins,

961
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,920
Speaker 3: you one thousand percent make that title fight for two

962
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 3: reasons right One, Rose is the best women strawweight in

963
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: the world. Luke, I'm sorry, Yeah, she's got to prove it.

964
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 3: She's got to prove a lot of things on Saturday Night.

965
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:17,239
Speaker 3: But my eyes have told me, especially that incredible first

966
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:20,000
Speaker 3: round she had against Andrage before it fell apart that

967
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 3: you know with some tweaks, she's the best one out there.

968
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 3: And number two, uh, Luke shorthand tell me the best

969
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: fights we can make in UFC.

970
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 4: Tell me that Wailey Jong and rosnami Unis isn't on

971
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:30,280
Speaker 4: that list.

972
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,359
Speaker 3: You want to talk about a style matchup, You want

973
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 3: to talk about potential to see this craft at the

974
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 3: highest level in the women's game in you know my

975
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 3: favorite division that always delivers.

976
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 4: That is a hell hell of a fight, Luke, that

977
00:43:43,960 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 4: you can make if we get there.

978
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 3: Now, I'm certainly looking past Jessica Androje. It's not that

979
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 3: she wasn't the champion to for, It's not that she

980
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: wasn't at the title level before, But I don't think

981
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,880
Speaker 3: they would run that fight back after the way she

982
00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 3: lost against Wailey Jong. Look, it was a bad loss.

983
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 3: She just ran in front oncoming traffic. There's not a

984
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,279
Speaker 3: lot of demand for that fight. I mean, certainly would

985
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 3: depend on Tatiana Suarez his health, but I think she's

986
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 3: going to get that next shot if Rose doesn't win here.

987
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 4: And Luke more importantly, you know.

988
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 3: We know Rose's story right almost retiring last year, two

989
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 3: family members passing due to COVID, and this is delayed

990
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 3: her comeback. She talked a lot in that Ariel Hawani

991
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 3: interview about rediscovering her faith. Look, Rose has always been

992
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: such an interesting case study. I think because she's always

993
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 3: been very upfront with the mental health history and her

994
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 3: family and some of the challenges she had. We saw

995
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 3: tremendous potential in the beginning of her career, and there's

996
00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 3: been stops and starts and ups and downs. But Luke,

997
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: I defy you to tell me why she's not the

998
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 3: best in this way class. And you know, yeah, she

999
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,640
Speaker 3: got dropped in her head, she got knocked out. It

1000
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:47,799
Speaker 3: was a bad situation. But I think she's found her

1001
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: fighting spirit again, which is most important. And as we

1002
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,600
Speaker 3: know with the great coaching of Trevor Whitman, when you

1003
00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:56,799
Speaker 3: look at Rose's submission background, her length, and her understanding

1004
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: of boxing over her past three four fights, she says,

1005
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 3: as good as it gets, Luke, So this is gonna

1006
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 3: be a very interesting fight given you know, Androge's ability

1007
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:06,319
Speaker 3: to finish a fight at any time.

1008
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it was the I'm not gonna say it

1009
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 2: was the equivalent, but it's the closest equivalent i've seen.

1010
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 2: Well I actually, actually that's not true. That would be

1011
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 2: Sarah McMahon versus Roxanemo to Ferry, right, But I'm gonna

1012
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,080
Speaker 2: say it was something that reminded me of Rampage Jackson

1013
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 2: and Hicardo Arona. Rona had sort of gone underneath when

1014
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,840
Speaker 2: they were fighting in Pride. But you know, he was

1015
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,239
Speaker 2: ADCC I think gold medalist, really good submission grappler and

1016
00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 2: rampage didn't want to beat it. I was considered a

1017
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 2: dangerous situation. A rampage just did prime rampage things and

1018
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: just bodied him in one of the most incredible slams ever.

1019
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:40,120
Speaker 2: I mean, for folks who may not remember, Jessica and

1020
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,120
Speaker 2: Drodge was getting tuned up. She was getting tuned up

1021
00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: big time by Rose nama Unis until that faithful one

1022
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: where she got slammed. Now, credit to Jessica for using

1023
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: her natural gifts and you know, just kind of being

1024
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: a barbarian that she is. But what's interesting is you said,

1025
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:56,400
Speaker 2: tell me that Rose isn't the best fighter in this

1026
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 2: weight class. I'm not sure that I can be seen

1027
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,880
Speaker 2: because yes, she made a mistake against Jessica. Okay, fair enough,

1028
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: but we know she's beaten Yowanni and Jchak close. Actually,

1029
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 2: I would say more dominantly rather than why Lee Jiang did.

1030
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 2: And while she had the stumble against Jessica, there was

1031
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,680
Speaker 2: enough there to say maybe with some adjustments, she could

1032
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: do it a second time. And for those other reasons,

1033
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 2: her length, her well could coaching, her recentering, her focus,

1034
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 2: her overall submission ability, there are reasons to think she'd

1035
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,319
Speaker 2: be a handful for why Lee Jiang. I would love

1036
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 2: to see that contest. So I agree. I'm not sure

1037
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,480
Speaker 2: that I can't say that she's the best fighter, but

1038
00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 2: what I can say is if styles make fights, even

1039
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 2: if she's you know, if even if she could beat

1040
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,080
Speaker 2: why Le Jiang, you can't get past Jessica and Droge,

1041
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 2: all bets are off. So we need to see that

1042
00:46:40,080 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 2: growth you were talking about to get this other opportunity.

1043
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,279
Speaker 2: And by the way, I think if she captures that

1044
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 2: title again BC at some point down the line, and

1045
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: this is a big if, she's got a lot of

1046
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 2: work to do in front of her. But if she does,

1047
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 2: you're talking about some serious grit all time ladies' performances there,

1048
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 2: frankly all the time UFC performance to lose it, go

1049
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 2: on a sojourn, come back and get the title again.

1050
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:02,359
Speaker 2: That's that's big time stuff right there.

1051
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 4: Absolutely.

1052
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: And by the way, would you uh, would you say

1053
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 3: the most charismatic spouse coach in MMA is Pat Berry

1054
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 3: or coach Littori?

1055
00:47:10,719 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 4: Which one you pick?

1056
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 2: Oh? Uh? Pet Berry met might be a little bit

1057
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 2: more valuable in the corner in terms of some strategic advice.

1058
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 2: But you know, Lotty certainly guided her man to victory

1059
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 2: and I'm not here to say anything bad about her. Okay,

1060
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: one more of these b C. The last fight on

1061
00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 2: the main card, Paige van Zant getting a bit of

1062
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: an exit interview and when by interview, I mean audit

1063
00:47:31,600 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 2: when she takes on Brazilian Amanda Hebas. I interviewed Amanda

1064
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,359
Speaker 2: Hebas on my show BC. I don't know if you've

1065
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:39,799
Speaker 2: ever talked to her. She's the happiest MMA fighter I've

1066
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 2: ever spoken to, an absolutely infectious personality. Black belt in

1067
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,960
Speaker 2: jiu jitsu, high level moy Thai, she speaks English. It

1068
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,839
Speaker 2: is pretty clear the UFC is looking at her as

1069
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: somebody they might be able to make some headway with,

1070
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: both in Brazil and then overall in MMA. She is

1071
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 2: the real deal holy Field. We think she has to

1072
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: take on Paige van zan Here's my question to you.

1073
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: If she wins, and it's expected that Amanda will, although

1074
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 2: one never knows Page could, but I guess the question is,

1075
00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: after this fight, this will be the last fight on

1076
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: Page's contract, does she bounce to bellator be see. I'm

1077
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: gonna say I think the chances of that are high.

1078
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:20,680
Speaker 2: One like, if you were to sign Paige van Zant.

1079
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,879
Speaker 2: Why would you sign her because you think she could

1080
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,920
Speaker 2: be a weight class champion. Maybe, but that wouldn't be

1081
00:48:25,960 --> 00:48:28,920
Speaker 2: the predominant reason. Obviously, she can fight pretty well, but

1082
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 2: she's not like the best in her class in terms

1083
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: of her overall skill level. What she brings is she's

1084
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,920
Speaker 2: pretty good. You could give her exciting matchups because she's

1085
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:42,000
Speaker 2: an exciting fighter, and obviously she has a ton of popularity.

1086
00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 2: You would be signing her for her popularity, for her visibility,

1087
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 2: and if she feels like in Bellator. It might not

1088
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 2: be the exact same stage as the UFC, but I'm

1089
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 2: gonna get fights that are better for me. I'm gonna

1090
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: be in bigger platforms depending on how they work this.

1091
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,560
Speaker 2: I can have all of my other sponsors and so

1092
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 2: on and so forth market all the things outside of

1093
00:49:01,840 --> 00:49:04,040
Speaker 2: the cage. I mean, that's what Scott Coker does. He

1094
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:07,440
Speaker 2: did it with Gina Carano. Obviously, Strike Force had Ronda

1095
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: Rausi first, and Misha Tate and Marluce Konan. He was

1096
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 2: the first with all of this. This is a perfect

1097
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,040
Speaker 2: setup for her if she wants to go over there.

1098
00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 2: I don't know what her plans and ambitions are but

1099
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,360
Speaker 2: a marriage so to speak, between Paige van Zant and

1100
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 2: Scott Coker slash Beltur that's a pretty good way to go.

1101
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1102
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean, she's the biggest star in the division right away, right,

1103
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 3: second biggest star in the company female wise, behind Cyborg

1104
00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:34,080
Speaker 3: if that happens in look a big part of Page's

1105
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 3: post UFC career. We're assuming she leaves and they don't

1106
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 3: resign her. Is she wants to join ww She's been

1107
00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 3: the you know, overly outspoken about that, and look her

1108
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:46,240
Speaker 3: history of bringing up fighter pay issues.

1109
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:48,759
Speaker 4: They're cashing her the hell out here, Luke.

1110
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 3: And what's interesting here is not only have they thrown

1111
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 3: her to the lion right, they've thrown her to the

1112
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 3: or the Liones, no disrespect to Amanda Newness with nine

1113
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:01,120
Speaker 3: and one Amanda Hebas, who, like we may find out

1114
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,800
Speaker 3: pretty soon that Hebos is the second best women's flyweight

1115
00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 3: in the world. You Know, we talk about how shallow

1116
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:08,919
Speaker 3: this division is lately, we've seen a couple more names

1117
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 3: pop up. But in terms of finding somebody you could

1118
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: legitimately believe could give Valentina Chefchenkos some problems, I mean,

1119
00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:17,520
Speaker 3: Hebes is showing us a lot in a short period

1120
00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 3: of time three to zero in the UFC, So there's

1121
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 3: a big opportunity for her to make a statement. And

1122
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:25,919
Speaker 3: in a weird way, it's almost making Page like this

1123
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,839
Speaker 3: interesting underdog story here where she's taking this fight as

1124
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,799
Speaker 3: serious as possible. She even said that, you know in

1125
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 3: interviews that she's dropped her sponsor. She's only focusing on

1126
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 3: the training because obviously she wants.

1127
00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 4: To exit with a strong brand.

1128
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:43,399
Speaker 3: No one wants to exit and then their UFC run,

1129
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,040
Speaker 3: you know, with a knockout loss. But if you've seen

1130
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:48,719
Speaker 3: in the odds for this fight, Luke last I checked

1131
00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 3: on William Hill Amanda Hebis is a minus nine zero

1132
00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:56,480
Speaker 3: nine favorite, which is mind boggling. And while I favor

1133
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 3: her big and this is a cash out in PVZ,

1134
00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: could be in some real trouble.

1135
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 4: The one thing Page does have.

1136
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 3: In her corner Luke is like a ability to pull

1137
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,160
Speaker 3: one of those reckless strikes out of her out of

1138
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 3: her you know, backside, And I wonder like this has

1139
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: the potential to be an incredible upset.

1140
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,080
Speaker 4: If she can pull it off.

1141
00:51:15,080 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 3: It's not likely where she could exit on her own

1142
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,239
Speaker 3: terms and kind of do how you like me? Now,

1143
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,799
Speaker 3: but I wish her well in her future. I think

1144
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,200
Speaker 3: this is the end and it should be for her. Luke,

1145
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 3: and her husband has the worst tattoo in MME history

1146
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:28,279
Speaker 3: on his neck, thank you.

1147
00:51:28,920 --> 00:51:30,799
Speaker 2: I've not seen that. And I'll just say this though,

1148
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,880
Speaker 2: like it's going to belltort like I've said this before, dude.

1149
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 2: The UFC is the biggest platform obviously in MMA, but

1150
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,440
Speaker 2: that doesn't mean it's the best fit for everybody, right,

1151
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,840
Speaker 2: both in terms of your overall skill level, although that

1152
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 2: can be you know a lot of different ways you

1153
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,920
Speaker 2: could go. But more importantly, if you like a promoter

1154
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,360
Speaker 2: who lets you do a little bit more of the

1155
00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 2: things you do outside of the cage, who understands how

1156
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: to leverage that both for their own popularity as well

1157
00:51:57,560 --> 00:51:59,759
Speaker 2: as your own. If you who's a little bit more

1158
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,880
Speaker 2: hands on with you as a negotiating partner, that's a

1159
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: thing you prefer and you can use do it like

1160
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,760
Speaker 2: it's better for you, like it'll make both parties happier.

1161
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 2: And now she wants to stay in UFC and UFC

1162
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,880
Speaker 2: wants to keep her because they have a change of heart. Okay, fine,

1163
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 2: that's All's well, that ends Well, I'm just saying like

1164
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 2: a lot of times people are like, oh, it's the

1165
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 2: end and it's all better. It's acrimonious. How do you

1166
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,799
Speaker 2: know you're not going to a place that's better for

1167
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:25,080
Speaker 2: what you want to do. I don't think you'd be

1168
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,120
Speaker 2: better for Amanda Hebas, but it might be better for

1169
00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:29,120
Speaker 2: Paige Van's ant. So, by the way, I asked Amanda

1170
00:52:29,120 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 2: Hebas about that very thing. I asked her what about

1171
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 2: the recklessness of page and she agreed with you, BC.

1172
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,560
Speaker 2: She's like, that's the one thing that makes her absolutely dangerous.

1173
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 2: You have to be very, very careful with that. But

1174
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:44,360
Speaker 2: all smiles and giggles. She likes her chances. So I

1175
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,280
Speaker 2: gotta tell you a BC, this UFC two to fifty

1176
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:50,840
Speaker 2: one card is absolutely is act top two bottom. I

1177
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 2: cannot wait.

1178
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: Don't They talked about it.

1179
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: It's one of the best main cards we've seen in

1180
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 3: a long time. I put it up in the conversation.

1181
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:58,960
Speaker 3: The rest of the card, short of Volcano's de Mer

1182
00:52:59,040 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 3: kind of sucks the horn.

1183
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:01,560
Speaker 4: Look, you got to be really honest with you, Okay.

1184
00:53:01,640 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 2: I wasn't referring to that. I was being just the

1185
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:05,240
Speaker 2: main card. But yes, fair enough for what you're paying

1186
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,640
Speaker 2: for on pay per view. You're getting your money's worth,

1187
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 2: I think, is the way I would put it. Okay,

1188
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 2: with that in mind, it is time will return our

1189
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 2: attention to what the viewers and our audience have to

1190
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,120
Speaker 2: ask us. It's time to BC for dms from darcs.

1191
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:25,359
Speaker 2: All right, all right, we should kind of hustle through

1192
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: these a little bit to BC. I don't know if

1193
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 2: I got these ahead of time, So just throw them

1194
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 2: up on the screen here, Jay, whoever's putting them up,

1195
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 2: so I can read them off and we'll get to them.

1196
00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 4: Okay, said Jay's name today.

1197
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: That's great from odd mea, Kayla, Will this be the

1198
00:53:39,239 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 2: greatest night of upsets in UFC history of Aldo Holloway

1199
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:43,440
Speaker 2: and masvidoal WINBC?

1200
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, and add PVZ if she could pull them off,

1201
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:47,839
Speaker 3: which I don't think she will.

1202
00:53:47,880 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 4: I mean you heard me.

1203
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 3: I'm going with the underdog both Max Holloway and Jorge

1204
00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 3: Mazra on the first two fights.

1205
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:56,480
Speaker 4: So look, there's live dogs in here, Luke.

1206
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:59,640
Speaker 3: And it's not just because they're good matchups where the

1207
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: b SO so to speak, has a good opportunity. It's

1208
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 3: just everything we talked about with the uncertainty of the

1209
00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:05,719
Speaker 3: quarantine going.

1210
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 4: To you know who's going to adjust to this in

1211
00:54:08,080 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: a bad way. We have no idea.

1212
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,919
Speaker 3: You're flying to Abu Dabi, you're going to Vegas first,

1213
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 3: you're taking eighteen COVID tests, they're sticking things down into

1214
00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:17,399
Speaker 3: your soul, Luke, and then you're fighting in the middle

1215
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: of the morning. Nobody knows what this will turn out

1216
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:23,440
Speaker 3: to betting wise, It's very interesting, but also yes, the

1217
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,399
Speaker 3: spirit of that question, this could be one of those

1218
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 3: nights that we remember because nobody's safe here.

1219
00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:29,520
Speaker 4: These are great night of fights.

1220
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wonder, I wonder if that happened, like what

1221
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: has been the UFC card with the most amount of upsets.

1222
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 2: I don't know the answer to that, but I wonder

1223
00:54:39,080 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 2: if those three won, if it would be in the running.

1224
00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 2: You'll have to mention it might be.

1225
00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 3: The greatest, the greatest experience or maybe the tide for

1226
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,880
Speaker 3: the greatest I ever had was UFC two seventeen at

1227
00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: Madison Square Garden where the B side won all three

1228
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,800
Speaker 3: of those fights. Right, it was TJ knocking out Cody,

1229
00:54:53,840 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 3: it was Rose knocking out Yuanna, and then it was

1230
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,400
Speaker 3: GSP Were they the betting underdog in all three. I

1231
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: don't remember, but that was probably the best comparison I

1232
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 3: can give you, Luke.

1233
00:55:02,320 --> 00:55:05,279
Speaker 2: All right, Next, Zachary A. Bauer asks do y'all have

1234
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 2: any thoughts on Teddy Atlas recently saying I'm getting addicted

1235
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 2: to the sport of MMA. It seems like those in

1236
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 2: boxing world are paying more attention to MMA. I actually

1237
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 2: watched this podcast on this prior to this question. Actually

1238
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: it is coincidental. B. See, here's my thought on this,

1239
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 2: and I wonder what you think when ten years ago,

1240
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 2: twelve years ago, let's say in the oughts, if I

1241
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,719
Speaker 2: tried to get somebody in boxing to watch MMA, they

1242
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 2: might watch Anderson Silva or Saint Pierre or something, but

1243
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: they had a real hard time watching anybody else. I

1244
00:55:35,719 --> 00:55:39,520
Speaker 2: think that it's not just a function of MMA's popularity.

1245
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 2: The big growth curve in the last twelve years, and

1246
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 2: it continues to grow, is striking. The striking has gotten

1247
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 2: way way better, and that's gonna be the first thing

1248
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: anybody from the boxing world respects and frankly understands. They're

1249
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,799
Speaker 2: beginning to see. I'm not saying they're on par it's

1250
00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,680
Speaker 2: not my point, BC, It's just so different. But dude, like,

1251
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: you can showma striking to somebody at this point like

1252
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,600
Speaker 2: a good a good match between people, and they will

1253
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,400
Speaker 2: agree that it's pretty high level between these certain guys.

1254
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: I think that's finally beginning to dawn on them. And

1255
00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 2: then the action overall pretty darn great.

1256
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, And there's been a perfect storm in this for

1257
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 3: Teddy Alice where they sort of really diminished his role

1258
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,279
Speaker 3: in a heart you know, on a hardcre level on

1259
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 3: ESPN when Top Rank came in and kind of you know,

1260
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:22,720
Speaker 3: had their own.

1261
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:24,040
Speaker 4: Announced team put together there.

1262
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:26,640
Speaker 3: And then he had that relationship with Dustin Poier when

1263
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,759
Speaker 3: Poorier shouted them out, you know, before the Habib fight

1264
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,840
Speaker 3: in terms of the motivational quotes and all that, and

1265
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,640
Speaker 3: then you know, he was a guest on Teddy's pod

1266
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:34,680
Speaker 3: and they've stayed close.

1267
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 4: Look, I'll give Teddy Atlas this credit.

1268
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 3: When he launched that podcast, it was sort of like,

1269
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:40,200
Speaker 3: all right, there's going to be interesting because I don't

1270
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 3: know if you ever interviewed Teddy, not only is it

1271
00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 3: fantastic because he's so deep in wacky, but you get

1272
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 3: one question, Luke, you get one question, and it's going

1273
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,719
Speaker 3: to take thirty minutes for him to answer it because

1274
00:56:49,719 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 3: he talks to himself. But his podcast has been very interesting.

1275
00:56:53,239 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 3: He's used the COVID run to tell long form stories

1276
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,480
Speaker 3: on coming up with Mike Tyson and all that stuff,

1277
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 3: and I actually respect it and enjoy the way he

1278
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,360
Speaker 3: looks at MMA. Look, he's not gonna be there breaking

1279
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:06,560
Speaker 3: down the ground game technique, but he does understand obviously

1280
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 3: the heart and mindset of a fighter, and it's interesting

1281
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 3: to hear his take. So yeah, I think this boxing

1282
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,560
Speaker 3: being so lame to be honest, the last few months

1283
00:57:15,600 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 3: has really sped up the crossover, especially on my boxing

1284
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:21,920
Speaker 3: Twitter timeline of.

1285
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 4: People that are taking notice of UFC closer than ever before.

1286
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 2: Fair enough. That probably plays a role as well. You

1287
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 2: got high level MMA fighters competing a no high level

1288
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,919
Speaker 2: boxers competing right now. People are star for some action.

1289
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 2: Fair Enough, We go to at bkob underscore. What is

1290
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: the UFC going to do? BC with an aging heavyweight roster,

1291
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: DC and Stepe are soon to retire and Francis seems

1292
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: to be miles ahead of it. Everyone.

1293
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 3: What do you think, Well, they're gonna do what they

1294
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: always do, number one heavyweights aged later, So yes, Steep

1295
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 3: ay in d s DC look to be closer on

1296
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:56,360
Speaker 3: the way out. But the thing is you can linger

1297
00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:59,280
Speaker 3: and you can have a long career and reinvent yourself

1298
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:02,920
Speaker 3: at heavyweight one too. You know, in Ganu might end

1299
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,560
Speaker 3: up having a run, and he probably is deserving because

1300
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 3: he's so fun and so devastating.

1301
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:08,200
Speaker 4: But you just never know.

1302
00:58:08,280 --> 00:58:10,160
Speaker 3: I mean, Alexander Guffson just moved up. I don't know

1303
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 3: if he's gonna be any good. John Jones is trying

1304
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 3: to go up for big money. The heavyweight division has

1305
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,960
Speaker 3: never really been deep at any one point, but it's

1306
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: always able to reinvent itself. Luke, so age is never

1307
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 3: a factor there. Yeah, you're gonna lose two big stars

1308
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:25,280
Speaker 3: at the same time.

1309
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 4: But you know we have the the Curtis Blades, the

1310
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 4: Walt Harris.

1311
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:31,800
Speaker 3: I mean there is a group of you know, non

1312
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 3: super old wash guys who still have a chance to

1313
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 3: improve and figure out who they are.

1314
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know what the answer is. I mean

1315
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:39,800
Speaker 2: the question for me is DC we know is going

1316
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:42,880
Speaker 2: to retire, Okay, so that's a given. Stepe, I don't

1317
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 2: know how long he sticks around, because if he sticks around,

1318
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 2: he gives some time for some things to shuffle. But

1319
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,200
Speaker 2: this is the problem with the heavyweight division. It's the

1320
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 2: oldest division of all divisions inside MMA. The turnover there

1321
00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: doesn't happen often enough, so you see these guys that

1322
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,480
Speaker 2: just hang on and hang on and hang on as

1323
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: a constant. It kind of makes things stale in certain

1324
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 2: periods before there's upheaval. So the answers are not easy.

1325
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: I don't know, okay, at Dans Underscore PIERC say.

1326
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 4: Again the answer is bfi latifi b.

1327
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,040
Speaker 2: V latifi at Dan Underscore Pierc BC. If Showtime said

1328
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,520
Speaker 2: you guys were overweight and had to each lose twenty pounds,

1329
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 2: would and could you do it? BC? Not only could

1330
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: I do it, I've done it. Your boy was eating

1331
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:30,600
Speaker 2: marshmallow cereals and drinking every night during the quarantine for

1332
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 2: the first couple of months, packed on a few lbs.

1333
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: But quietly, I've been watching what I eat, I've been

1334
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 2: tracking my macros, I've been exercising, and I can say

1335
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 2: I am now down to pre quarant actually below pre

1336
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 2: quarantine weight. I'm gonna see how far I can take you.

1337
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 4: To share the Can you share the digits with the audience?

1338
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: What do you want to know they're so bad and

1339
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 2: so embarrassing. I'm not willing to make that sacrifice. Well,

1340
00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: i'll tell you what. I'll tell you what. I'll tell

1341
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 2: you what. I'll tell you what. You push us to

1342
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 2: seventy five K on subs, which I realize we're not

1343
01:00:01,560 --> 01:00:03,960
Speaker 2: very close to right now, but you push us to it,

1344
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 2: I'll tell you all the numbers they are.

1345
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 3: I mean, funny, we can't say things like this. But

1346
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 3: but don't be a lady, Luke. Tell the people you're wing.

1347
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be a lady. I'm gonna be a puss

1348
01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 2: because it's who I am.

1349
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 4: But a right, here's all Luke, I have been.

1350
01:00:16,840 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 2: I've lost the weight.

1351
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 3: My wife hates me because for the last decade I've

1352
01:00:20,440 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: been two hundred and twenty nine pounds every single day.

1353
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,760
Speaker 3: Whether I'm being fat like I am now or whether

1354
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,560
Speaker 3: I'm running every day, I don't understand my body anymore.

1355
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 3: Probably a lot of gas station culture is the only

1356
01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 3: way to explain that. But can I lose twenty pounds?

1357
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 4: Yeah? Probably my best operating weight, if I got in

1358
01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 4: legit shape, would be like two oh five. Do I

1359
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:42,720
Speaker 4: have the motivation at forty one and in nine tenths

1360
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 4: to get there, Luke, I don't know.

1361
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: I don't know I could do it. You put something

1362
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:47,720
Speaker 3: on the line, you put a little scratched Luke.

1363
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 4: You challenge me.

1364
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:50,880
Speaker 3: You never know what's going to happen, Luke, because you know,

1365
01:00:51,520 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 3: on the surface, I look very handleable, Luke, But deep inside,

1366
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 3: there's a there's a there's a raging beast.

1367
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,080
Speaker 2: Okay, my guess is if you still say two twenty

1368
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:04,160
Speaker 2: nine when you run, you must like eat well when

1369
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:07,760
Speaker 2: you're not exercising and then eat terribly when you are exercising.

1370
01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:08,560
Speaker 2: Is that what's happening.

1371
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good way to say it.

1372
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's what'll happen.

1373
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

1374
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 2: Okay, Last, but not least from cha underscore, Vita, do

1375
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: you guys have any ideas for what the new name

1376
01:01:20,200 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: should be for the Washington Redskins BC? What do you think? BC?

1377
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,280
Speaker 2: By the way, who is your football team? Are you

1378
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: a Giants guy?

1379
01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 4: No? I screwed myself.

1380
01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 3: I was a Bears fan growing up, you know, fresh

1381
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,440
Speaker 3: off the Jim McMahon refrigerator Perry Super Bowl era, and

1382
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 3: then when the Bears traded mcmahonon eighty nine to the Chargers,

1383
01:01:39,960 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 3: I did that thing that you can't do, which is

1384
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 3: get so emotionally upset that your favorite player got traded

1385
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 3: that you said, f this team, I'll never cheer for

1386
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:47,920
Speaker 3: them again.

1387
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 4: And who was waiting for me?

1388
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:54,040
Speaker 3: Luke, Jerry Glanville, Andre Rise and mc hammery, Vander Holyfield

1389
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 3: and the ninety one Atlanta Falcons. So I was like

1390
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,000
Speaker 3: a bootleg, second rate Falcons fan for a decade through

1391
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:02,440
Speaker 3: that Super Bowl loss when Eugene Robinson picked up that

1392
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,240
Speaker 3: whore and I got to a point where I said,

1393
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 3: I'm not a real Falcons fan.

1394
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,120
Speaker 4: I'm no one.

1395
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 3: And then I think, like a lot of people, Luke,

1396
01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:12,080
Speaker 3: fantasy football ruined my team fandom.

1397
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 4: I've actually been playing since nineteen ninety.

1398
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 3: I'm an old school guy. And yeah, and now I'm

1399
01:02:17,720 --> 01:02:19,120
Speaker 3: just a regular fan of the league.

1400
01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:20,840
Speaker 4: Thank you, thank you for hearing my sad story.

1401
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,360
Speaker 2: What is Give me a name that the Redskins should

1402
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: pick up.

1403
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,760
Speaker 3: I hope it's not something generic and lame like the

1404
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,560
Speaker 3: Washington Renegades or Gladiators. I would like if they replaced

1405
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:35,360
Speaker 3: that name with something that had to do with the capital,

1406
01:02:35,480 --> 01:02:38,640
Speaker 3: the city, the you know, the political culture something.

1407
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,320
Speaker 2: See I'm against that completely I hate all that. That's

1408
01:02:42,360 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 2: got nothing to do with DC. People who live here

1409
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 2: don't care about That's not entirely true.

1410
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,880
Speaker 3: But I'm not saying go to Washington bullets, Luke. I'm

1411
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 3: saying more like, exactly capitals type. That's exactly what they

1412
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:52,960
Speaker 3: should do.

1413
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 2: They should go to the bullets they want, but that's

1414
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 2: exactly what they should do. I saw people being like

1415
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: they should be called the Americans. Man, fuck that, do

1416
01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 2: not call them the American.

1417
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 4: That is so. That is so PC Luke. I thought

1418
01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 4: you'd be all over that. That is no.

1419
01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 2: I hate that name. I hate that name. I don't

1420
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 2: want them to be the capitals with an O. I

1421
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: don't want any of that. Like, here's what I was thinking.

1422
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,760
Speaker 2: You could do the Warriors if you want to keep

1423
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 2: like the burgundy and gold and like some of the

1424
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: spear imagery, although some people want like a complete turn

1425
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 2: away from all that stuff. Okay, that's might be a problem.

1426
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 2: The one thing is like they've taken all the big cats,

1427
01:03:28,120 --> 01:03:31,439
Speaker 2: Like there's the tigers, there's you know, there's the the jaguars,

1428
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,680
Speaker 2: there's the lions. So you can't do that at Yeah,

1429
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: how tough are how tough are fish? Panthers are taken fish.

1430
01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 2: You've got the Miami Marlins. All right, okay, that's one thing.

1431
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:47,960
Speaker 2: Florida Marlins, San Jose sharks not a fish. But okay,

1432
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: here's the thing, mighty ducks. Here's the thing, which is

1433
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 2: a bird. We have an invasive species here called the snakehead, right,

1434
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: which is it's this weird looking eel thing that just

1435
01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:04,960
Speaker 2: eats everything in the Potomac River. That was a thing

1436
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 2: you could do, you know, maybe something I don't know.

1437
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:10,720
Speaker 4: The Washington piranhas is this where you're going, Luke?

1438
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:14,040
Speaker 2: What about the Washington What about the Washington snakeheads?

1439
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,560
Speaker 4: That's the lamest thing I've ever heard you.

1440
01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:22,160
Speaker 2: It's not as lame as the Americans. The Americans is

1441
01:04:22,160 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 2: a show on FX and should stay that way.

1442
01:04:25,520 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I wish I had something better. The Washington Warriors

1443
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 3: is pretty generic, but watch it be something like that.

1444
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 3: Your guy Dan Snyder's under pressure, Luke. Okay, all right,

1445
01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,720
Speaker 3: all right, how about the Washington Woke.

1446
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:44,600
Speaker 2: Warriors the WWW's Yes, yes, I don't think that would

1447
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:48,320
Speaker 2: fly either, but we'll see. Maybe maybe the wart Hogs

1448
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 2: is the thing you could do. It's probably a thing

1449
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:50,880
Speaker 2: you can maybe.

1450
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:54,000
Speaker 4: Does sounds very Harry Potter to me, I'm not into that.

1451
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,080
Speaker 2: See everyone says skins, and then they're like, you could

1452
01:04:57,080 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 2: do potatoes and you could make it like a salad

1453
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 2: because no one's ever told that joke fifty thousand times. No,

1454
01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 2: you cannot do that one. So I don't know what

1455
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 2: they're gonna do.

1456
01:05:05,240 --> 01:05:08,600
Speaker 4: Just call him the Washington Arians. Is that where you're going, Luke.

1457
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,840
Speaker 2: That's a little bit. It's it's chocolate city though, so

1458
01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:12,600
Speaker 2: you couldn't really do that either, you know what I'm saying.

1459
01:05:12,640 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 4: That's a little racist of you to say that, but

1460
01:05:14,320 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 4: that's fine.

1461
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 2: What's what the mayor calls it here? Mayor for left

1462
01:05:17,080 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 2: Marion Berry?

1463
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:21,920
Speaker 4: Okay, Mayor Berry, I could be mayor. Mayor, Barry be mayor.

1464
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: If he can be mayor, anyone can be maryor. All right,

1465
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:25,800
Speaker 2: with that in mind, BC, it is time where you

1466
01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: steer the show and we watch people's dongs. Go ahead, my.

1467
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:30,160
Speaker 4: Friend, Yeah, that's long time. You know what we do.

1468
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 3: We scour the earth, Luke, for the highs and lows,

1469
01:05:33,800 --> 01:05:36,600
Speaker 3: the good, bad and the ugly in combat sports and beyond.

1470
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,000
Speaker 3: It's not only have you seen this shit, it's a

1471
01:05:40,040 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 3: birthday time? Have you seen this shit at fifty never

1472
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:44,479
Speaker 3: looked any better.

1473
01:05:44,560 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 4: Luke.

1474
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,760
Speaker 3: This is an all star edition. It's loaded, So lock up,

1475
01:05:47,800 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 3: buckle up, get ready. We're gonna do this thing for

1476
01:05:49,920 --> 01:05:52,680
Speaker 3: as long as it takes. We always start with real fights,

1477
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 3: Luke Shamrock FC. Remember when you mentioned Rampage and Arona

1478
01:05:57,840 --> 01:06:02,080
Speaker 3: Kaufman and Roxy. Check out this slam Ko to the

1479
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:09,600
Speaker 3: deep dark depths of Hell. Luke, coming right up, brother, Yikes,

1480
01:06:09,600 --> 01:06:12,160
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, I.

1481
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 4: Think they should have just opened the canvas on the

1482
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 4: floor and just put in it. Had had a coffin waiting, Luke,

1483
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 4: and just drop him right in.

1484
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,840
Speaker 2: By the way. I like how the guy has the

1485
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:25,720
Speaker 2: three quarter leggings on underneath his fight shorts. That's not cheating.

1486
01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 4: Normally you should lose for that. But wow, Luke, that

1487
01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 4: is wow. Yeah. Even Yeah, I'd.

1488
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:33,240
Speaker 2: Make fun of him for shopping at Lulu Lemon, but

1489
01:06:33,280 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 2: then he'd do this to me.

1490
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a shout out to their CTE society

1491
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:38,960
Speaker 3: in the house presenting that one.

1492
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 4: All right, let's move on UFC two fifty one protocols. Luke.

1493
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 4: This was in Brazil. The sneaky hot Amanda Hebis who

1494
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:47,160
Speaker 4: you talk to getting the COVID test.

1495
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 3: Luke, I am not down with this. I'll wear a mask,

1496
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:52,240
Speaker 3: I'll do whatever else you tell me to do. I

1497
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 3: am not letting them scrape the back of my brain.

1498
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 3: That's a fighter. That's a fighter, right there, Luke. That reaction,

1499
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 3: she told me, that's salt, brother.

1500
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 2: She told me she was afraid of this.

1501
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 4: Look they I think they they may have given her

1502
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,160
Speaker 4: a hysterectomy with that. I don't know. Like that they went,

1503
01:07:06,280 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 4: they went far, Luke with that.

1504
01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, look at that. Oh god, oh well, the

1505
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 2: back of the throat is not terrible.

1506
01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 4: But look at the note. Who is that butcher in

1507
01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 4: that mask? Yeah? Tell them Mandy, please? Wow.

1508
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 2: I know it's like it's like doctor, you know, this

1509
01:07:22,440 --> 01:07:24,439
Speaker 2: is not an honor killing. We don't do that here.

1510
01:07:25,160 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 3: I mean, what psychopath is that? Kavorkian's here to see you?

1511
01:07:28,640 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 3: I mean no, I will not, Luke. I will not

1512
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 3: cover a fight until this is over.

1513
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 4: I'm sorry. I can't do that.

1514
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 3: I don't care what you say about me. Luke, I

1515
01:07:34,760 --> 01:07:37,000
Speaker 3: survived three needles. Won't go that way.

1516
01:07:37,040 --> 01:07:37,320
Speaker 4: Okay.

1517
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:39,920
Speaker 2: They couldn't even they couldn't even get that thing through

1518
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:41,640
Speaker 2: my right Nostril. It's so messed up.

1519
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 4: But think all that, all the years of Bougar Shuegar.

1520
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 4: They got to get through there. Okay, let's roll on, Luke.

1521
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 4: It's time for the spinny shit of the week. Here's

1522
01:07:49,440 --> 01:07:50,919
Speaker 4: spinny shit gone right.

1523
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,080
Speaker 3: Check out this double spin ko and kickboxing a little

1524
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:55,640
Speaker 3: pump fake.

1525
01:07:56,160 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, that is nice. He's like, you know, I'm

1526
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 2: just spin I'm gonna pretend. Oh I just pretended. Close

1527
01:08:04,280 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 2: distance back them.

1528
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:09,520
Speaker 4: Oh that spinny shin gone right? How about some spinny

1529
01:08:09,520 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 4: shit gone better, Luke. Check out Alie Flint with a

1530
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:16,439
Speaker 4: nice little step in counter kick here. I don't know

1531
01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:17,800
Speaker 4: what federation this is.

1532
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 2: Oh boy, Luke, are you recycling these? We've seen this one,

1533
01:08:22,200 --> 01:08:22,880
Speaker 2: No we haven't.

1534
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 4: It looks like it A lot of white guys in Europe,

1535
01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:27,640
Speaker 4: it looks like it. Luke. That's a hell of a finish.

1536
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 4: What do you call that move?

1537
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:33,160
Speaker 2: I don't know, between the legs like that. I don't know.

1538
01:08:33,840 --> 01:08:37,440
Speaker 4: All right, all right, well here's some spinny shit gone disastrous.

1539
01:08:37,479 --> 01:08:40,639
Speaker 3: Shout out for Gbacca, hit Man chub Brock gonna step

1540
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,679
Speaker 3: in here, Luke. Look, some people just shouldn't try this stuff, Luke,

1541
01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 3: I mean come on, come on, you.

1542
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:47,920
Speaker 2: Know is it? Wow? You know what? I was gonna

1543
01:08:47,920 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 2: give big Man props for doing that, and then.

1544
01:08:50,640 --> 01:08:54,599
Speaker 3: No, no, no, well that's not your fight of the week, Luke.

1545
01:08:54,680 --> 01:08:56,759
Speaker 3: Let's take it to the streets here. Okay, Dobie Brothers,

1546
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,080
Speaker 3: let's do it here. Let's take it to the streets

1547
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,680
Speaker 3: for a nice little truction street fight. It's not the

1548
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,960
Speaker 3: knockout I want you to see. It's the celebration he

1549
01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,120
Speaker 3: just sent you to him.

1550
01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 2: Oh, Luke, is this like and they're counting him out?

1551
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1552
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 4: To tell me how my ass taste? To tell me

1553
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 4: how my ass taste, Luke, incredible celebration from this guy, right.

1554
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 2: Dude, that old man put the hands on him, and

1555
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,559
Speaker 2: this guy's doing like the like the soldier boy on

1556
01:09:27,600 --> 01:09:30,720
Speaker 2: the ground, like face down and then look go back

1557
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,120
Speaker 2: there cheering them all way. Wait, wait, go back they'll show,

1558
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,720
Speaker 2: they'll show look at him gangster signs NASA shirt is

1559
01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: like a bitch, I'll work for NASA. I got them

1560
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:40,920
Speaker 2: hands for NASA.

1561
01:09:41,240 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 4: Oh boy, Yeah.

1562
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,360
Speaker 2: Send your accid astronomy. Got the left hook astronomy you

1563
01:09:45,400 --> 01:09:46,200
Speaker 2: see in stars?

1564
01:09:47,240 --> 01:09:50,280
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, hey, speaking of great celebrations, Luke, let's go

1565
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 3: to the baseball diamond. Check out another Chubb rock round

1566
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,559
Speaker 3: and second here and going for third. Luke, You've been

1567
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,599
Speaker 3: out at third a few times on some high school dates.

1568
01:09:57,640 --> 01:09:59,040
Speaker 3: But check out this guy celebrates.

1569
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:01,760
Speaker 2: Look look at Big Country here.

1570
01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,920
Speaker 4: Look at John Crook. This is great. Two words for you.

1571
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:07,679
Speaker 4: Yeah right there, dude.

1572
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,559
Speaker 2: That is that is real life Kenny Powers.

1573
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,160
Speaker 4: That is fantastic. Love it.

1574
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,680
Speaker 2: Look at big look at big Fella here. Look follow the.

1575
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,759
Speaker 4: Great uh platinum Mike Perry on Instagram, but coach Littori

1576
01:10:22,439 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 4: took him up on his raw dog challenge this week.

1577
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 4: Did you you can't write this stuff?

1578
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 2: Luke?

1579
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,120
Speaker 4: This is this happened you see this? This is inside

1580
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:32,240
Speaker 4: the bed of these two. This is great.

1581
01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,240
Speaker 2: Oh my god?

1582
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 4: Oh got him? Got him?

1583
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:38,120
Speaker 2: What is wrong with Mike Perry?

1584
01:10:39,680 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 4: Well you know, okay, yep, she go?

1585
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 2: God, dude, she doesn't she she karate chops that thing.

1586
01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:50,679
Speaker 4: She's looking for candy. She got him writing the pinata, Luke,

1587
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,600
Speaker 4: that was great. He speaking of pinat We got some

1588
01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:53,840
Speaker 4: pinata fun this week.

1589
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:56,040
Speaker 3: Look, you can't put a pinata video out there unless

1590
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 3: someone gets hurt.

1591
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,960
Speaker 4: Here we go. This is how you start them young.

1592
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:00,479
Speaker 4: You gotta spin piece.

1593
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,200
Speaker 3: You disoriate people, you spin them around, you give them

1594
01:11:03,200 --> 01:11:10,440
Speaker 3: a bat I like turtles.

1595
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:13,920
Speaker 4: Yeah. Oh wow that kid? Yeah take that.

1596
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:19,679
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, Luke, that's only the second most violent pinata attack

1597
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 3: of the week.

1598
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,600
Speaker 4: Sorry about that kid. Check out the anger issues.

1599
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:27,160
Speaker 3: On Karen here. Karen will not wear a mask. She

1600
01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: will wear an eye covering though at the party.

1601
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,760
Speaker 4: Can we forward the video here, Jason? Look at her?

1602
01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,879
Speaker 4: Just go to town on buzz light year.

1603
01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 2: Bro, she's underhanding it, just stabbing this fool. Jesus Christ,

1604
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:44,599
Speaker 2: lady's kid.

1605
01:11:44,720 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 4: There's kids present here. This is ridiculous.

1606
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 2: This is a murder.

1607
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,600
Speaker 4: This looks like see I'm punk against Mickey gall What

1608
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 4: is happening here?

1609
01:11:57,080 --> 01:11:58,840
Speaker 2: Is this you in high school with kids taking your

1610
01:11:58,920 --> 01:11:59,679
Speaker 2: lunch money?

1611
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,080
Speaker 4: Oh wow? Look at this a guy in the roof

1612
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 4: holding it up here. That is uh wow wow.

1613
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,680
Speaker 2: A lot of candy in buzz light here. I'm a

1614
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 2: little underwhelmed by the payout here.

1615
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:12,840
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, this is uh wow. Okay, Hey, let's roll

1616
01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:13,160
Speaker 4: on here.

1617
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:15,759
Speaker 3: Hey remember that time, Luke, You know Connor McGregor, remember

1618
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:18,920
Speaker 3: Maymac We had that boxing public workout and he broke

1619
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,720
Speaker 3: out that really weird arm flap and we were making.

1620
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:24,920
Speaker 4: Memes about it and yeah, look at that. What is

1621
01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:28,160
Speaker 4: he doing? I don't know. I think I found the origin.

1622
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:28,519
Speaker 2: Luke.

1623
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 4: Here, let's go back to the nineties. I want to.

1624
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:33,840
Speaker 3: Introduce you to my girl, Lilith Fair. I think we

1625
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,559
Speaker 3: found out where Connor got this from.

1626
01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 4: Jay.

1627
01:12:35,880 --> 01:12:38,559
Speaker 3: If you can advance the video here already, please at

1628
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 3: the point of the joke.

1629
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,240
Speaker 4: There it is. Okay, thanks? Great?

1630
01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,400
Speaker 2: You know what, people get busy with the Indigo girls.

1631
01:12:45,640 --> 01:12:46,719
Speaker 2: Don't think they don't.

1632
01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:49,240
Speaker 4: H Yeah, Molly is a hell of a drug. Luke,

1633
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:49,880
Speaker 4: this is great.

1634
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:53,680
Speaker 2: Wow, dude, is she dancing or is she just convulsing?

1635
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:57,320
Speaker 4: I think this is how she connects with her higher power. Yeah,

1636
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 4: look at that. That's great.

1637
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 2: And dude, she's doing it with mom jeans on too. Bro,

1638
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:03,120
Speaker 2: She's like Jordash for life. Bitch.

1639
01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:06,599
Speaker 3: Do you think that's a Sarah McLaughlin concert, a Tory

1640
01:13:06,680 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 3: Amos one or maybe? Uh who are those two ladies

1641
01:13:09,960 --> 01:13:10,879
Speaker 3: with the acoustic guitars?

1642
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:12,639
Speaker 2: You know? Yeah, those Indigo girls?

1643
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:16,439
Speaker 4: Yes, there you go, there you go. Indeed indeed, all right, Hey,

1644
01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:19,120
Speaker 4: look it was our nation's birthday over the weekend, so

1645
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,479
Speaker 4: happy fourth to everybody. How about some firework fails. All right,

1646
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:27,160
Speaker 4: check out this guy, Roman Candledong over here, our Asian friend.

1647
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:29,960
Speaker 4: Is this not gonna end good? Look? Spoiler alert, it doesn't.

1648
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 4: It doesn't end good for you.

1649
01:13:37,800 --> 01:13:41,160
Speaker 2: Know what. I love these. It's like, only only the

1650
01:13:41,320 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 2: dumbest motherfucker you know would ever do this anyway. So

1651
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 2: it's like it's like that Roman, it's the host, Like

1652
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 2: it's that scene from Saving Private Ryan when they're storming

1653
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,519
Speaker 2: the Omaha beachhead and they get the flamethrower and they

1654
01:13:57,600 --> 01:13:59,280
Speaker 2: hit the bunker with it and then here come the

1655
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:02,240
Speaker 2: Germans out of it and they go, don't shoot, let

1656
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,920
Speaker 2: them burn. That's my attitude right here.

1657
01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:11,080
Speaker 4: Nobody loves stupid people paying paying, uh, paying.

1658
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 3: Their debts for their stupid ways. And Luke Thomas, let's

1659
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 3: move on to Walmart. Look, you gotta read the fine

1660
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 3: print when you buy fireworks for outdoor use only.

1661
01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,240
Speaker 4: Check it out. We're wilding out there down in Aisle nine.

1662
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 2: What they got This is how they advertise their sales.

1663
01:14:25,240 --> 01:14:25,719
Speaker 2: I'm told.

1664
01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy's a suspect right there in the gray

1665
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 3: T shirt death.

1666
01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was caught leaving the scene of the crime

1667
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 2: there a little bit too hastily.

1668
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:38,759
Speaker 3: This guy's got a bouquet of flowers here for his lady.

1669
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,000
Speaker 4: He's like, yeah, sorry if it's loud in the background.

1670
01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:44,040
Speaker 4: Somebody just slid off a thousand dollars worth of fireworks

1671
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:47,920
Speaker 4: in the aisle nine. All right, who this guy?

1672
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:49,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, this dude here. First of all, he's the one

1673
01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,679
Speaker 2: who knocked out the other guy in the first clip.

1674
01:14:52,280 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 2: And then and then secondly, you could tell it's not

1675
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 2: the first time he's seen fire in a Walmart. So yeah,

1676
01:14:59,160 --> 01:15:00,439
Speaker 2: there's another fire here. I don't know.

1677
01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:03,559
Speaker 3: You gotta love the people who are calm under pressure,

1678
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 3: as it's just the world's crumbling behind them.

1679
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:07,720
Speaker 4: Luke, it's a good skill for twenty twenty. You need that.

1680
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 3: Let's check out a drunk chick of the week here, Luke.

1681
01:15:12,080 --> 01:15:15,200
Speaker 3: Everyone's trying this bounce bounce the basketball with a can.

1682
01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,760
Speaker 3: This is one of the better fails i've seen. Yeah,

1683
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 3: into the into the pool and take that.

1684
01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 2: Right into the drink. Oh that is awesome.

1685
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 4: I mean my dms are filled with these.

1686
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:26,559
Speaker 2: Ever.

1687
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:28,600
Speaker 3: You know, girls are taking them to the face, to

1688
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:30,320
Speaker 3: the to the a second, what is.

1689
01:15:30,280 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 2: The object here? You put the like the white claw

1690
01:15:33,400 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 2: because you're Karen on top of the on top of

1691
01:15:36,760 --> 01:15:38,960
Speaker 2: is that a watermelon? What is that?

1692
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 3: That might be a watermelon, but the whole point is

1693
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 3: that it pops up in the air, it gets shaken up,

1694
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:45,960
Speaker 3: you catch it, and you basically just shotgun it right there.

1695
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 3: I mean, look, is it different than you know, our

1696
01:15:49,600 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 3: generation didn't do it Edward forty hands or weird.

1697
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,040
Speaker 4: Stuff like that. Luke, you know what we used to do.

1698
01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 4: We used to buy alcohol and drink it.

1699
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:58,800
Speaker 2: No, I did the Edward forty hands.

1700
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, just sit in the woods, you know.

1701
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:04,599
Speaker 2: No, Remember I was in a fraternity, so I did

1702
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:05,400
Speaker 2: dumb shit like this.

1703
01:16:05,560 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you guys are probably playing quarters wearing g strings.

1704
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:09,599
Speaker 4: Yeah it was probably great. All right.

1705
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 2: We did play quarters, just not in g strings, but yes,

1706
01:16:11,760 --> 01:16:12,719
Speaker 2: we did play quarters.

1707
01:16:12,840 --> 01:16:13,000
Speaker 4: Well.

1708
01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 3: Look, we couldn't have this successful show without our international fans.

1709
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: Currently they can't buy our merch because of Showtime's website ruling,

1710
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 3: but they can send us their rugby league hits up

1711
01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: the week. Looke, check out Dallen Zelesnik just taking a

1712
01:16:29,240 --> 01:16:30,919
Speaker 3: man soul right here.

1713
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:34,599
Speaker 2: Bro, What in the fuck? And that's a clean tackle too, right,

1714
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,880
Speaker 2: He didn't hit him as is in the shoulders.

1715
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:41,320
Speaker 3: I have no what is rugby league is different than rugby?

1716
01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,040
Speaker 3: These Auscie fans of ours are saying.

1717
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:45,400
Speaker 2: Rugby league is rugby league is different than rugby union?

1718
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,360
Speaker 4: What about Aussie rules football is the same.

1719
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: It's a different sport.

1720
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:54,559
Speaker 3: All right, all right, well that's pretty incredible. Here's the

1721
01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:56,439
Speaker 3: second best rugby league moment of the week.

1722
01:16:56,800 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 4: Micah cevo is about to bulldoze James Tedesco's children soul here.

1723
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 3: This is fantastic. Look at they take that. Get the

1724
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:08,639
Speaker 3: hell out of my way. Oh the pitchback, dude.

1725
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,600
Speaker 2: It's a lot of white people taking l's on this field.

1726
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 3: Bumbling, stumbling Lilia, these stiff arms, Luke, this is like you.

1727
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 3: This is like you trying to get out of the

1728
01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:20,519
Speaker 3: convenience store with your mask on. Right, Just ge't get it,

1729
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 3: get away from me, right.

1730
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:24,000
Speaker 2: No, No, this is me trying to get an interview,

1731
01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:25,759
Speaker 2: and I'm all the white guys getting flattened.

1732
01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 4: Mm hmmmmmmmm. Oh yeah, you know, Hey, John Morgan made

1733
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:33,760
Speaker 4: the flight to Abu Dabi. I don't know if the

1734
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,880
Speaker 4: SHMO did, but shout out to those people.

1735
01:17:36,680 --> 01:17:39,200
Speaker 2: Who are gamt Cruz by the way, he's out there too.

1736
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,120
Speaker 4: All right, all right, you know did they I don't

1737
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:44,080
Speaker 4: think they asked you to board that plane, Luke, and

1738
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:44,800
Speaker 4: I don't think they will.

1739
01:17:44,840 --> 01:17:47,040
Speaker 2: Okay, no, they did not. They certainly did not.

1740
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:51,519
Speaker 4: All right, Micah Sivo with your kill Whitey of the week.

1741
01:17:51,640 --> 01:17:53,920
Speaker 4: It's fantastic. They call it a try. I think he

1742
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,479
Speaker 4: tried hard. He got them. All right, Let's roll on here, Luke.

1743
01:17:57,600 --> 01:18:01,439
Speaker 3: This week in COVID protocol via relations, check out a boyla.

1744
01:18:01,479 --> 01:18:02,639
Speaker 4: Can somebody get her? Luke?

1745
01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,080
Speaker 3: What is happening here? I mean you gave her. You

1746
01:18:06,080 --> 01:18:08,439
Speaker 3: put a roof over her head, you know, and this

1747
01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:09,160
Speaker 3: is what you get.

1748
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 4: Lady. You're gonna have to wear a mask. I'm sorry, dude.

1749
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 2: What the fuck is wrong with this mouth breather?

1750
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:19,040
Speaker 4: All right?

1751
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 3: You know what she wants to She wants to order

1752
01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:23,200
Speaker 3: her salad, Luke. She wants to sit there. She doesn't

1753
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:24,960
Speaker 3: want to be bothered with face coverings.

1754
01:18:25,000 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 4: Okay, you know it is what it is, all right.

1755
01:18:27,400 --> 01:18:31,320
Speaker 2: She had one too many chablize up in this bitch.

1756
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:32,599
Speaker 4: Good lord, she needs.

1757
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 3: To follow the lead of her husband, A boy Low.

1758
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:37,960
Speaker 3: Check out what Grandpa did this week in the supermarket, Luke,

1759
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 3: any means necessary to cover yourself and keep safe.

1760
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:46,000
Speaker 4: You got to do it. Maybe except for that that's

1761
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 4: that's a that's a that's used. The them are a

1762
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:52,840
Speaker 4: pair of used bvds.

1763
01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 2: Luke.

1764
01:18:53,439 --> 01:18:56,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, wow, okay.

1765
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 2: Dude, you could not do this with my underwear. Let

1766
01:18:58,720 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 2: me just tell you straight up.

1767
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, well, Luke.

1768
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,680
Speaker 3: People criticize this segment. They say, all we do is

1769
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 3: show dongs and fails. You want to see some wins, Luke,

1770
01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,840
Speaker 3: You want to see some winds of the stacks. Check

1771
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 3: out this guy off the diving board.

1772
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 5: Incredible catches it. I think, oh yeah, this guy's.

1773
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:35,000
Speaker 2: Wow, well played, sir, well played.

1774
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 4: Look I got, I got.

1775
01:19:36,880 --> 01:19:40,439
Speaker 3: I drank a little too much at a like family

1776
01:19:40,520 --> 01:19:42,760
Speaker 3: and kids pool party at a friend's house a couple

1777
01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,479
Speaker 3: of years ago, and I dove off the diving board and.

1778
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:47,040
Speaker 4: Hit my head on the bottom of the pool and

1779
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 4: got concussed.

1780
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:51,640
Speaker 2: Now, how deep did you dive into? How deep was

1781
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 2: the water? Five feet?

1782
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,520
Speaker 4: I think it was like seven eight feet.

1783
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 2: And you still hit the bottom?

1784
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it happened.

1785
01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 2: It happened. Yeah. I had a friend do this three

1786
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:02,200
Speaker 2: feet of water. We had to take him to the hospital.

1787
01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:03,360
Speaker 2: He's not a smart person.

1788
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,000
Speaker 3: This is a warning, don't drink and dive, all right,

1789
01:20:06,120 --> 01:20:08,519
Speaker 3: do not do that. Here, let's see some more wins.

1790
01:20:08,600 --> 01:20:13,280
Speaker 3: Check out the speedboat football catch Hall of Fame entry here, Luke.

1791
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,760
Speaker 3: This is an all time great one begins with the

1792
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:18,400
Speaker 3: throw and lily that catch.

1793
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:21,080
Speaker 2: Wow, that's OBJ level right there.

1794
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is dude, perfect stuff right here. This is great.

1795
01:20:25,400 --> 01:20:30,120
Speaker 3: Sorry, Jet, thank you, thank you, privileged upbringing Jason for

1796
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:31,320
Speaker 3: the correction there.

1797
01:20:31,640 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 2: I know Jay's like our slaves would clean these. They're

1798
01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:36,880
Speaker 2: called jet skis, That's what they told me, not boats.

1799
01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:39,720
Speaker 3: Hey, let's do a little bit of pool lovin, Luke.

1800
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:41,240
Speaker 3: I call this pool lovin.

1801
01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:45,520
Speaker 4: Done right, it's couples only here, it's backflip off the rooftime.

1802
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:53,040
Speaker 2: Oh god, oh god, oh no, oh god, oh Jesus, who.

1803
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:55,840
Speaker 4: That would ended the relationship?

1804
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:56,120
Speaker 2: Wow?

1805
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 4: Wow, look you never would have walked again. But wow,

1806
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,720
Speaker 4: that is we made it, Luke.

1807
01:21:03,760 --> 01:21:05,599
Speaker 3: If they if that couple can make it through that,

1808
01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 3: they can make it through anything.

1809
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 2: Okay, dude, they that's the kind of guy that's gonna

1810
01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:13,240
Speaker 2: put a Roman candle on his dong.

1811
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 4: That is true.

1812
01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,720
Speaker 3: They got it right here, Luke. But other couples not

1813
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,559
Speaker 3: so lucky. By the pool We've also got some fails

1814
01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 3: for you this week.

1815
01:21:22,200 --> 01:21:24,200
Speaker 2: I'm surprised that pool is not above ground.

1816
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:25,080
Speaker 4: Yep.

1817
01:21:25,280 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 3: Oh oh god, oh that was like an r KAO.

1818
01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,640
Speaker 2: On the Jesus Christ.

1819
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:37,040
Speaker 4: How do you explain that to her dad when you

1820
01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 4: drop her off, Luke?

1821
01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, sorry, She's like, I don't know wrestling moves, but

1822
01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:44,880
Speaker 2: that feels like a stone cold stunner or something. I

1823
01:21:44,880 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 2: don't know.

1824
01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:46,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was bad.

1825
01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:49,439
Speaker 3: Shout out to this greeting card here of that great

1826
01:21:49,520 --> 01:21:51,240
Speaker 3: meme when they dropped the coffin.

1827
01:21:51,400 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 4: That was great.

1828
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if we're going to get a replay

1829
01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 3: out of this, but that's great all right. Since this

1830
01:21:59,479 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 3: is the end of her ursary edition, Luke, we roll

1831
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,600
Speaker 3: on the the pool fails continue. It's all fun and

1832
01:22:04,680 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 3: games until Allie Raisman can't walk again.

1833
01:22:07,200 --> 01:22:10,360
Speaker 4: Luke, go wow.

1834
01:22:11,960 --> 01:22:15,200
Speaker 2: I mean this is this is you know, this is

1835
01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 2: done dalk Maryland right here, folks jumping off of the roof,

1836
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,519
Speaker 2: Jumping off of the roof with high grass onto a

1837
01:22:23,560 --> 01:22:27,080
Speaker 2: trampoline in on an above ground pool. I mean, this

1838
01:22:27,320 --> 01:22:29,479
Speaker 2: is dubt at its finest right here.

1839
01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 4: This is great. Wow.

1840
01:22:31,640 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 3: Hey, she had she was an Olympic hopeful Luke until

1841
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:37,120
Speaker 3: she couldn't out of a straw.

1842
01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 2: Yeah you see, how did she get propelled in a

1843
01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 2: She doesn't get airborne at all. Look at this, just

1844
01:22:44,160 --> 01:22:44,920
Speaker 2: straight forward.

1845
01:22:45,600 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 3: I thought she was going to go through it. Look

1846
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,120
Speaker 3: those things are dangerous, right, them things. I won't even

1847
01:22:50,160 --> 01:22:52,599
Speaker 3: get one for my kids because of insurance purposes.

1848
01:22:52,640 --> 01:22:54,080
Speaker 4: Okay, Luke, I'm.

1849
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,080
Speaker 3: Not gonna when you come over one day for a

1850
01:22:56,520 --> 01:23:00,160
Speaker 3: morning combat cookout, you bring your kids. Jay brings all

1851
01:23:00,160 --> 01:23:02,960
Speaker 3: of his ex wives. I'm not letting your kids on

1852
01:23:03,240 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 3: any of my stuff.

1853
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 4: Okay, I have one child, Thank you, thank you? All right?

1854
01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:10,439
Speaker 3: Hey, Luke, you ever try to be a good neighbor

1855
01:23:10,439 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 3: and see your you know, not you because you hate

1856
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:15,400
Speaker 3: most people in DC, including the people that live next

1857
01:23:15,400 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 3: to you in US and monitor their lawn at a

1858
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:21,240
Speaker 3: much closer observation level than you. But you ever see

1859
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,240
Speaker 3: your guy out there in the sun, you hook him up. Hey, bro,

1860
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,320
Speaker 3: you're doing great. Here's a cold one, right. I like that.

1861
01:23:27,320 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 4: That's neighborly, that's brotherly love. Shot. Yeah, shock on that thing, right?

1862
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:36,360
Speaker 4: Look at this weird though. You gotta stay hydrated out

1863
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:37,719
Speaker 4: there when you're mowing, Luke.

1864
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: Right, this was my neighbor, I would move.

1865
01:23:40,840 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 4: Oh god, wow, yeah, all right, well you know he tried, Luke,

1866
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 4: he tried. Yeah, that's uh, Luke. You mow your own lawn, right,

1867
01:23:51,960 --> 01:23:54,200
Speaker 4: Please tell me you're you're a man in the year

1868
01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:54,960
Speaker 4: twenty twenty.

1869
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,719
Speaker 2: Okay, bitch, I've been mowing lawn since I was single. Digits.

1870
01:23:57,720 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 2: I don't want to hear.

1871
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,839
Speaker 4: It, all right, even then in Doha?

1872
01:24:01,240 --> 01:24:03,760
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, wait, just your shoveling sand Yeah, got it,

1873
01:24:03,800 --> 01:24:06,280
Speaker 3: all right, let's roll on here, Luke. It's just another

1874
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,080
Speaker 3: Tuesday night in Miami. This chick is definitely spilled more

1875
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:12,400
Speaker 3: beer than you've ever drink, and she is committed. She

1876
01:24:12,439 --> 01:24:15,960
Speaker 3: has committed, Luke to catching up to that stream.

1877
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 2: This is me chasing career opportunities. Yeah, just just desperate

1878
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:25,959
Speaker 2: for a taste.

1879
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:29,479
Speaker 3: I always want to see what happens after these videos,

1880
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:31,000
Speaker 3: Like does she just go back, you know, in the

1881
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:32,320
Speaker 3: water and just chill out and hang out?

1882
01:24:32,360 --> 01:24:34,520
Speaker 4: I mean, this is great.

1883
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:35,880
Speaker 2: Wow wow?

1884
01:24:36,000 --> 01:24:40,559
Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, yeah, all right, Luke, we're gonna close with this. Look.

1885
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,800
Speaker 4: I want to shout out all the great people that

1886
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,720
Speaker 4: have made MK fifty of reality one year into this

1887
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,679
Speaker 4: the greatest. Have you seen this shit anniversary collection. It's

1888
01:24:49,720 --> 01:24:51,559
Speaker 4: in upper po timing because I think a lot of

1889
01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 4: our people are getting their merch.

1890
01:24:53,040 --> 01:24:54,760
Speaker 3: So shout out to people who have shared that on

1891
01:24:54,800 --> 01:24:58,080
Speaker 3: social media. Luke, you know the LA Chargers wide receiver

1892
01:24:58,160 --> 01:24:58,639
Speaker 3: coach right?

1893
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,360
Speaker 2: Yeah here?

1894
01:25:00,479 --> 01:25:05,840
Speaker 4: Yeah sure? He tweeted out his uh a little mail

1895
01:25:05,920 --> 01:25:09,320
Speaker 4: delivery of a shirt. Nice little glass there, let's roll

1896
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:13,280
Speaker 4: on here. Mario Gomez at MG Underscore m m A

1897
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:16,360
Speaker 4: on Instagram shouting out a nice m K. Look there

1898
01:25:16,479 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 4: is probably an extra large he's wearing it well, Luke

1899
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:21,880
Speaker 4: in the uh in the dojo this week? Uh, Luke.

1900
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:25,360
Speaker 4: Even my parents down in Florida got their package. Uh.

1901
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 4: Shout out to Diane and Chris Campbell here they're they're enjoying.

1902
01:25:29,800 --> 01:25:30,519
Speaker 2: Look at that.

1903
01:25:31,479 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 3: Yes, let's check in with Luke's family. Rob Thomas Uh no,

1904
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:39,000
Speaker 3: not not not wearing it?

1905
01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 4: Not wearing it, Luke, Yeah, not supporting our cause there? Sorry?

1906
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:50,760
Speaker 4: Uh nice hat though, yeah, uh.

1907
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:53,160
Speaker 2: No, no you're not. I'm telling you it's gonna be

1908
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:54,880
Speaker 2: a hard sell. It's gonna be hard.

1909
01:25:54,960 --> 01:25:57,600
Speaker 3: Finally, you know who was rocking out this fourth of

1910
01:25:57,640 --> 01:26:00,599
Speaker 3: July weekend on social media and and not wearing any

1911
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,200
Speaker 3: MK Merchwill he supports America and multiple pastels.

1912
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 4: It's Jay the producer.

1913
01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:08,160
Speaker 2: Wow, look at this heterosexual.

1914
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:12,160
Speaker 4: There's a lot of colors going on there. Jay.

1915
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 3: What are you drinking in this photo? A a sex

1916
01:26:15,360 --> 01:26:16,360
Speaker 3: on the beach or.

1917
01:26:19,800 --> 01:26:24,559
Speaker 4: Pineapple lemonade? That's great? Is that a tied eyed pink shirt?

1918
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:30,800
Speaker 4: That's oh vodka in there? Wow? No, he's got he's

1919
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Speaker 4: got a pink tied eyed shirt. There's a yeah.

1920
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 2: Is this video or this? Excuse me? This photo is

1921
01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 2: clearly missing like three hound dogs that have ticks and fleas.

1922
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:43,200
Speaker 2: That's the only thing not here that would make this perfect.

1923
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:51,479
Speaker 3: Jay now bragging about his designer Golden doodle Dog, which

1924
01:26:51,479 --> 01:26:52,759
Speaker 3: has its own Instagram account.

1925
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,280
Speaker 4: I do follow it. Shut up to Jay and his people,

1926
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,920
Speaker 4: his tribe. Thank you, thank you. Look have you seen

1927
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:01,400
Speaker 4: any of that ship because the episode in We're Going Places?

1928
01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:05,000
Speaker 2: Thank you? That's amazing. Well done. Time BC. Now for

1929
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:07,160
Speaker 2: odds and ends? Good sir? What do you have for

1930
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:08,559
Speaker 2: your odds and ends?

1931
01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:09,200
Speaker 1: Oh?

1932
01:27:09,200 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 4: Can I do an editorial this week?

1933
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:14,479
Speaker 3: Luke and shout out the pro boxing community, And by

1934
01:27:14,560 --> 01:27:18,160
Speaker 3: shout out, I mean challenge and shake. Like Chris Rock said,

1935
01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:19,880
Speaker 3: I'll never hit a woman, but I'll shake the shit

1936
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 3: out of her. Hey, boxing, I don't want to wait

1937
01:27:22,640 --> 01:27:24,920
Speaker 3: for my life to be over. I want to know

1938
01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:26,760
Speaker 3: right now, are we gonna have a year this year?

1939
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:29,240
Speaker 3: Can we announce some fights. It's fine that Eddie Hearn's

1940
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 3: doing a couple decent ones in his backyard. It's fine

1941
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,400
Speaker 3: that top ranks in the bubble every week with some

1942
01:27:34,520 --> 01:27:37,040
Speaker 3: okay stuff. Show Tom can't wait for you to bring

1943
01:27:37,080 --> 01:27:38,840
Speaker 3: what's coming in PBC and et cetera.

1944
01:27:39,479 --> 01:27:41,000
Speaker 4: But Luke, this.

1945
01:27:42,320 --> 01:27:45,200
Speaker 3: Unprecedented times. These times, right now, we're changing the way

1946
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,080
Speaker 3: we do everything right. Change the way we eat, change

1947
01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 3: the way we treat each other, change the way we

1948
01:27:48,880 --> 01:27:51,600
Speaker 3: do business. All that and then some tall, pale and

1949
01:27:51,640 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 3: handsome it is your boy BC here saying boxing now

1950
01:27:55,560 --> 01:27:59,240
Speaker 3: is the time to restart, fix your ills and do

1951
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:01,599
Speaker 3: what you're support to do to make this sport healthy.

1952
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 4: Work together because you kind of need to right now.

1953
01:28:05,800 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 3: I do call Dana White the quarantine MVP for a reason.

1954
01:28:08,960 --> 01:28:12,479
Speaker 3: The quality has not subsided. It's almost like improved this

1955
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,839
Speaker 3: summer with great fight after great fight. I'm not immune

1956
01:28:15,840 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: to understanding the UFC business model is easier to pull

1957
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 3: this off. But the one thing we say year after

1958
01:28:22,439 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 3: year in boxing is we see some great fights, but

1959
01:28:24,560 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 3: imagine if the best continuously fought the best and we

1960
01:28:27,760 --> 01:28:31,879
Speaker 3: made this an open playing field and TV contracts and other.

1961
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:32,800
Speaker 4: Things didn't get in the way.

1962
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:35,800
Speaker 3: Right now, as the sport's struggling in twenty twenty to

1963
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 3: really announce any competitive fight really worth seeing or you know,

1964
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 3: really failing to put out big fights, we hope we

1965
01:28:42,680 --> 01:28:43,960
Speaker 3: can see a couple of them at the end.

1966
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:44,360
Speaker 4: Of the year.

1967
01:28:45,720 --> 01:28:48,599
Speaker 3: Can we get creative, Can two networks and promoters call

1968
01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 3: up and say, look, let's do a home at home.

1969
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,519
Speaker 4: Your guy fights on our network this week. Next month,

1970
01:28:52,520 --> 01:28:53,759
Speaker 4: our guy fights on your network.

1971
01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:57,559
Speaker 3: Let's finally do this for the overall health of the sport.

1972
01:28:57,680 --> 01:29:00,639
Speaker 3: That can help everybody, because now more than ever, Luke,

1973
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:03,280
Speaker 3: we don't know when when crap is going to get

1974
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 3: back to normal. I like our February first, twenty twenty

1975
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:09,639
Speaker 3: one bed of full arenas, but I got some serious doubts, Luke.

1976
01:29:09,760 --> 01:29:12,760
Speaker 3: So we're gonna have to start to make some adjustments.

1977
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:16,639
Speaker 3: And putting on three quarter good or half is good

1978
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:19,160
Speaker 3: matchmaking for a year and a half is just not

1979
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:20,880
Speaker 3: going to cut it. We got to figure out how

1980
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,720
Speaker 3: to you know, make money, and it might have to

1981
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:25,639
Speaker 3: be through pay per view, and if that happens, fine,

1982
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 3: but work together and make the big fights that we

1983
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 3: want to see. Let's make boxing great again. I didn't

1984
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,799
Speaker 3: maga you there, Luke. I'm just saying I love the sport.

1985
01:29:34,040 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 3: I know it's ill will, I know it's issues.

1986
01:29:36,720 --> 01:29:37,679
Speaker 4: I love it anyway.

1987
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,800
Speaker 3: Right, It's it's got a scarlet letter on it, but

1988
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,719
Speaker 3: I love that woman boxing, So let's freshen her up again.

1989
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:47,960
Speaker 2: Who's who's the first A list boxer to compete in

1990
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:50,160
Speaker 2: twenty twenty post pandemic?

1991
01:29:52,280 --> 01:29:55,280
Speaker 4: Oh poll during the pandemic.

1992
01:29:55,280 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 2: You're saying, I don't know, well, I mean yeah, well,

1993
01:29:57,600 --> 01:29:59,680
Speaker 2: when I say post I mean since it started, right,

1994
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:00,519
Speaker 2: not not counting.

1995
01:30:00,560 --> 01:30:02,439
Speaker 3: I mean, you know January Favor probably the best fighter

1996
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,800
Speaker 3: who has fought a Shaker Stevenson in a lopsided fight.

1997
01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:08,320
Speaker 3: We're hoping in September in an empty Arena, Vegas show

1998
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:11,879
Speaker 3: that we still will see Lomachenko against Tayo Fima Lopez.

1999
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:14,120
Speaker 3: I'm probably on ESPN plus pay per view, and that'd

2000
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:16,200
Speaker 3: be a great fight. A lot of talk still about

2001
01:30:16,200 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 3: Wilder Fury three in December. If we can pull it

2002
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 3: off and look, obviously PBC hasn't moved yet. They're gonna

2003
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,640
Speaker 3: announce you know, some some good matchups coming up, but

2004
01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 3: we all want to see the big ones too, and

2005
01:30:25,479 --> 01:30:28,000
Speaker 3: as excited as we're getting, rightfully so this week that

2006
01:30:28,160 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 3: UFC just doubled down and gave us Mozvidol on top

2007
01:30:30,800 --> 01:30:34,880
Speaker 3: of a great card already, I want to see my sport,

2008
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 3: the true sport, the one that that got me into

2009
01:30:37,640 --> 01:30:40,200
Speaker 3: the combat game show put its best foot forward again.

2010
01:30:40,280 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 2: Luke Well, I will say we cannot end the show

2011
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 2: without acknowledging a bit of a tragic loss in the community.

2012
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:51,479
Speaker 2: The father of Habib never gonna made of abdulman Nat

2013
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:56,759
Speaker 2: passed away on Friday from complications related to getting COVID.

2014
01:30:56,880 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what his other health profile was, but

2015
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,960
Speaker 2: this was a man who caught the disease the virus,

2016
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:06,400
Speaker 2: then had to be transported to Moscow, had a series

2017
01:31:06,439 --> 01:31:09,920
Speaker 2: of I think basically organ failure, He had to get

2018
01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:12,599
Speaker 2: heart surgery. I know that it had spread to other

2019
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 2: parts of his body, and ultimately he succumbed to COVID nineteen. So,

2020
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,960
Speaker 2: first of all, we send our condolences to the Nimergam

2021
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 2: madeoff family and everyone else. That's effective, you know, BC.

2022
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:23,880
Speaker 2: You know what it really stuck out to me is

2023
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:27,360
Speaker 2: I'm glad that nimergaa MADEV got the opportunity in front

2024
01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,040
Speaker 2: of his father UFC two forty two to win the

2025
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,400
Speaker 2: title and be there with him, which was great. But

2026
01:31:31,479 --> 01:31:33,200
Speaker 2: let's tell you know, it really sort of like struck

2027
01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 2: me at first. You know, I just thought of him

2028
01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 2: as an older guy, and certainly he was the BC.

2029
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,720
Speaker 2: He was only fifty seven. That have to mean I'll

2030
01:31:40,760 --> 01:31:44,000
Speaker 2: be forty one next month. Man, that's only sixteen years older.

2031
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 2: That is very very young, tragic and untimely passing. So

2032
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 2: a bit of a heartbreaker, unfortunately, but the reality just

2033
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 2: the same.

2034
01:31:53,680 --> 01:31:56,360
Speaker 3: And I do want to say I have always loved

2035
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,479
Speaker 3: and enjoyed the respect that Habibi showed toward his dad,

2036
01:31:59,520 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 3: And greater respect was ever shown Luke than in those

2037
01:32:02,840 --> 01:32:05,840
Speaker 3: chaotic interviews in the aftermath of UFC two twenty nine

2038
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,479
Speaker 3: when they had the fight in the cage and Habib's

2039
01:32:08,479 --> 01:32:11,200
Speaker 3: brawling with Connor's team, and the first thing he says.

2040
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,040
Speaker 4: In the interview is my dad's gonna kill me.

2041
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 3: You know, my dad's gonna absolutely like he's an adult,

2042
01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:19,600
Speaker 3: grown man, a UFC champion, a millionaire, a superstar, And

2043
01:32:19,640 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 3: the first thing he said is when I get home,

2044
01:32:21,120 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 3: my dad's gonna kill me. And I and I respect

2045
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 3: the respect that they had. And certainly, you know, you

2046
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,680
Speaker 3: don't have Habib without the coaching of his dad and

2047
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:32,120
Speaker 3: that whole extended team. And then make community has really

2048
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 3: especially obviously Habib's quote unquote rivals to see them, you know,

2049
01:32:36,080 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 3: lay down the arms and show that same respect for

2050
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:39,599
Speaker 3: the loss of a parent hair.

2051
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 4: This is really tough, and you know it sucks, Luke,

2052
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,679
Speaker 4: this time, These times suck.

2053
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 3: And you know some of us, the deaths have hit

2054
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 3: home so far in terms of people we know, or

2055
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,120
Speaker 3: in our family, or in our community or now in

2056
01:32:53,479 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 3: something that you know, we get entertainment from. I hope

2057
01:32:56,400 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 3: we can find a way. I'm not getting empty melology

2058
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 3: on you. I'm not gonna play Luke Thomas on Luke Thomas.

2059
01:33:01,560 --> 01:33:04,960
Speaker 3: But uh man, Luke, it's tough right now.

2060
01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:09,160
Speaker 2: It's tough, tough, It's very tough. It's unfortunate too. You know,

2061
01:33:09,640 --> 01:33:12,160
Speaker 2: it just sucks. It's terrible. So I don't know what

2062
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,760
Speaker 2: it means for September. I talked to Hovey on MENDESBYC.

2063
01:33:14,960 --> 01:33:16,479
Speaker 2: I was like, does this mean that he's going to

2064
01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,360
Speaker 2: compete in September or not? Is there any way to know?

2065
01:33:18,439 --> 01:33:21,000
Speaker 2: And he said, there's just no way to know right now,

2066
01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:23,640
Speaker 2: so we'll have to see. But obviously, you know, the

2067
01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 2: most important thing is is staying healthy and grieving in

2068
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,360
Speaker 2: the way that he needs to. So all right, but

2069
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,639
Speaker 2: would that be spose to close on.

2070
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,720
Speaker 3: A positive note because sorry to cut you off, because

2071
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:36,840
Speaker 3: we are excited about UFC two fifty one this weekend,

2072
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:40,920
Speaker 3: and there's potential for the script to get flipped upside down.

2073
01:33:41,720 --> 01:33:46,280
Speaker 3: Imagine if Saturday night we are talking about Masvidal McGregor

2074
01:33:46,479 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 3: next for the welterweight title, Like it is just wild

2075
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:53,440
Speaker 3: to think about that that could be in play.

2076
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 4: If we see that this weekend. So can't wait for

2077
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 4: all the fights.

2078
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,800
Speaker 3: A lot of great storylines, a lot of great matchups.

2079
01:33:59,880 --> 01:34:01,800
Speaker 3: I want to say it again, Luke, like shout out

2080
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 3: to Daana in company. And it has not been a

2081
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:04,360
Speaker 3: perfect run.

2082
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,479
Speaker 4: PR wise or PC wise or any of that, but

2083
01:34:06,840 --> 01:34:09,599
Speaker 4: look where we are right now. The company's rolling.

2084
01:34:10,280 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 2: Certainly are although they're hubris like, hey, if we can

2085
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:17,040
Speaker 2: do this, why can't the NBA it's like, cause that

2086
01:34:17,200 --> 01:34:22,120
Speaker 2: job is way harder. But I will say in terms

2087
01:34:22,120 --> 01:34:23,760
Speaker 2: of what the task has been in front of them,

2088
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:26,840
Speaker 2: it's been incredibly difficult. I think they had a couple

2089
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,600
Speaker 2: of stumbles at the beginning. And by the way, you

2090
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:31,680
Speaker 2: have to remain ever vigilant, right, and you can't let

2091
01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:34,760
Speaker 2: your foot off the gas ever. But it looks like

2092
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 2: they have found, at least for now a path forward

2093
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,640
Speaker 2: and we're the beneficiaries of that, and I can acknowledge it.

2094
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:43,519
Speaker 2: So as long as they maintain top level protocol, I'll

2095
01:34:43,560 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 2: keep my mouth shut about it. And they've done exactly that.

2096
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:48,320
Speaker 2: Looks like a fact that the protocol on Abu Dhabi

2097
01:34:48,439 --> 01:34:52,160
Speaker 2: is crazy strong. So good. I'm glad to see it.

2098
01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:54,000
Speaker 2: And if they can keep that up then we all

2099
01:34:54,040 --> 01:34:56,600
Speaker 2: get to benefit from it. So good stuff. Let me

2100
01:34:56,600 --> 01:34:58,320
Speaker 2: just say one more time, BC, this has been a

2101
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: strange year, but this was a passion project that we

2102
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,240
Speaker 2: had cooked up in our brains a long time ago,

2103
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 2: and you just never know if you're ever going to

2104
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,240
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to try something like this. Showtime took

2105
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 2: a risk, and it took a risk in the middle

2106
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 2: of you know, just absolute craziness. So I want to

2107
01:35:17,479 --> 01:35:23,240
Speaker 2: thank Showtime for being, you know, in the enablers of

2108
01:35:23,280 --> 01:35:27,680
Speaker 2: this miscuriant little show podcast that we do. BC. I

2109
01:35:27,720 --> 01:35:29,639
Speaker 2: want to thank all the folks at Malka who bring

2110
01:35:29,640 --> 01:35:33,280
Speaker 2: it to life and make it possible. And BC, thank

2111
01:35:33,320 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 2: you man, Thank you for being my partner in crime

2112
01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:37,720
Speaker 2: and all of this. I've really enjoyed this year. It's

2113
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:43,120
Speaker 2: been strange and weird and challenging, but it's been one

2114
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:46,320
Speaker 2: of the best years of my career and I wouldn't

2115
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:49,040
Speaker 2: want to do it with anyone else besides you. Pause.

2116
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:53,160
Speaker 3: Thank you very much, Luke, right back at you all.

2117
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:56,040
Speaker 3: Love to you and the extended family and our entire team.

2118
01:35:56,240 --> 01:35:59,200
Speaker 4: And I always say it when the people ask me,

2119
01:35:59,240 --> 01:36:01,479
Speaker 4: you know, how did more in Colmbat come together? I'll

2120
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,040
Speaker 4: never forget that first episode of the.

2121
01:36:03,080 --> 01:36:05,880
Speaker 3: M M A Beat rip together where I'm like, oh God,

2122
01:36:05,920 --> 01:36:07,640
Speaker 3: this guy Luke Thomas hates me. You know, they had

2123
01:36:07,640 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 3: a good run one episode, but uh yeah, but uh

2124
01:36:10,560 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 3: you know, the end to the Yang.

2125
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 4: The butt to your stuff.

2126
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 3: We've figured out some kind of wacky and weird formula.

2127
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 3: We still give you enough real time analysis and have

2128
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,000
Speaker 3: some fun too. There ain't no other show like this

2129
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 3: and it's people like Jay and our ear who we

2130
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 3: typically hate on the air, that do a great job

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Speaker 3: behind the scenes. All the great people that you mentioned

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Speaker 3: as well, and all of our committed and dedicated fans.

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Speaker 3: Hopefully all you are opening up your merch packages this

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Speaker 3: week if they're.

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Speaker 4: Arriving like Christmas morning, and great news.

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Speaker 3: Lot lot more to calm in that area as we

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Speaker 3: continue to grow and expand.

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Speaker 4: Uh luke. I can't say it enough.

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Speaker 3: I make a joke all the time that I get

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Speaker 3: all these dong videos and I do in my dms.

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Speaker 3: But we have a passionate people, will group of people

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Speaker 3: who just get us. They're they're you know, they're they're

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Speaker 3: they're weird and in middle aged maybe and just they

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Speaker 3: just get us and it works. So let's keep this

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Speaker 3: thing going because you can't find this anywhere else. No

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Speaker 3: other store sells this, all right, that's what we're talking about.

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Speaker 2: Right dude. No one. Actually, we don't do much boxing

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Speaker 2: talk right now because boxing is kind of on a

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Speaker 2: weird moment, but we no one covers combat sports like

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Speaker 2: we do. No one is willing to tell jokes that

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Speaker 2: we tell, and no one's really willing to tell, you know,

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Speaker 2: honestly what's happening in the sport. You may not like

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Speaker 2: all of our opinions, but we don't shy away from

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Speaker 2: what we think is the truth because we think it's unpopular.

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Speaker 2: We just say what we feel and we hope you

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Speaker 2: come along for the ride, and combat sports needs more

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Speaker 2: of that. So thank you to obviously all the people

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Speaker 2: that we mentioned, but thanks to the audience for being

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Speaker 2: along for the ride. And of course you can get

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Speaker 2: other people to join us if you want to follow

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Speaker 2: us on social media, if you can put up the

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Speaker 2: graphic j they'd be great. Obviously, BC and I are

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Speaker 2: on Twitter and we are on Instagram, and then the

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Speaker 2: show itself is on Instagram and YouTube. Give us a follow,

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Speaker 2: check us out, share the the There's no marketing in

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Speaker 2: the world like word of mouth man doesn't exist, so.

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Speaker 4: Yeahs to share STDs as well.

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Speaker 3: I wanted to say, Luke, that shout out to all

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Speaker 3: of our audio only people that only check out the

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Speaker 3: podcast in their drives home.

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Speaker 4: We respect you and Luke.

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Speaker 3: I rarely agree with your politics and stern takes, but

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Speaker 3: I respect the foundation of honesty that you bring to

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Speaker 3: your career and by proxy this show. It's a big

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Speaker 3: part about why we are different because you stand up

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Speaker 3: for what you believe in and I respect that. So

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Speaker 3: this army's growing.

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Speaker 4: We got people all over the world and it's only

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Speaker 4: going to get better from here. I am fired up,

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Speaker 4: I'm excited. You've got another job to get to, Luke,

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Speaker 4: So why don't you do? You know? That's it?

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Speaker 2: That's all right. Do you want more? You want more?

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Speaker 2: Got to showtime dot com. You can get a thirty

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Speaker 2: day free trial. If you like it, you can keep it.

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Speaker 2: If not, you can bounce. There you go, there go

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Speaker 2: showtime dot com. Thanks to everyone who's been here for

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Speaker 2: the year, except BC, who just bounced. My name is

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Speaker 2: Luke Thomas for Brian Campbell. Until next time they all

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Speaker 2: of your gains. Be loyal.