1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: That is true. I did serve one term in the 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: House of Representatives, the most important one since the Reagan 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: first term, Trump's first two years lovely, lovely time. And 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: now that House Republicans have, or that Republicans have the 5 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 1: House back, I mean, it should be the era of 6 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:20,279 Speaker 1: investigating the Biden administration. Should it not per minsas call 7 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: and Bob's call trying to give as good as you get? 8 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, shouldn't it be? It should be a time 9 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: when Hunter Biden stands up and shakes his head and says, man, 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 1: one week you're on the cover of time, the next 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:36,320 Speaker 1: week you're doing it. That's the mantra. We need a 12 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: second hour underway. Devin Nuniez will join us a little 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 1: later at the bottom of the hour. I wanted to 14 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: get to the money issue though that I think it 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: was Vince made clear. If you look at the last 16 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,840 Speaker 1: time I was in electoral politics, I just came off 17 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: three consecutive cycles. So I'm glad to be done with 18 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: it in that regard. But one billion dollars in dark 19 00:00:55,320 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: money in twenty twenty was funneled into these five oh 20 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: one C threes and C fours and C threes are 21 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,119 Speaker 1: supposed to be nonpartisan. They can't electioneer. There's some more 22 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: leeway with C fours and the like, but the bottom 23 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: line is, you're not going to keep up with these 24 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 1: Democrats on Act Blue. You're not going to keep up 25 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:18,120 Speaker 1: with the outside money on Democrats. Corporate America is giving 26 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: far more, much, far more money to Democrats and Republicans, 27 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: if any of the Republicans, and so instead of trying 28 00:01:25,120 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: to play this losing game, maybe Republicans ought to lead 29 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: the charge, quit carrying water for corporatism and corporate America 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:37,399 Speaker 1: and say if you can't vote, you can't contribute. Who 31 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,000 Speaker 1: whoa whoa. And I'm not talking about independent expenditures because 32 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: the Court's already ruled on that and citizens United, there's 33 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: not much you can do because we believe in the 34 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 1: First Amendment. But I'm talking about you want to know 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: why we got a trillion dollar infrastructure package. You really 36 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: want to know why? Because all of the trade groups 37 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 1: and all of the packs told each of their each 38 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 1: member in the House and Senate, well, if you want, 39 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: you know, five thousand for the primary, in five thousand 40 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: for the general, you probably need to support this Green 41 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:08,240 Speaker 1: New Deal infrastructure bill. There's things you can do on 42 00:02:08,280 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: the campaign finance side to help this. It's sort of 43 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: like the debate over elections. Republicans are now pivoting saying, well, 44 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: you know what all of those unilateral, I think unconstitutional 45 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:24,720 Speaker 1: elections that the governor, the Attorney general, the Secretary of 46 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: State put in place during the COVID pandemic In my 47 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: Senate race in twenty twenty, You're not going to believe this. 48 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: Sixty percent of the votes were cast absentee. We had 49 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: weeks and weeks of voting. They certified the election before 50 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: they matched the votes to the statewide voter registration system. 51 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: There's never been a forensic audit of anything. And who 52 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: rewrote the election law against the express words in the 53 00:02:56,639 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: Constitution of the United States which the Supreme Court is 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,639 Speaker 1: now adjudicating and more versus North Carolina executive branch officials. 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: They signed consent decrees with liberal groups and they rewrote 56 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: election law. So what a Republicans saying now, in classic 57 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: Goop fashion, Well, you know those are the laws. We 58 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 1: don't like it. We just better get better at it. No, 59 00:03:18,680 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 1: I will tell you this flat out. If we continue 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: with four months of voting, if we continue with voting 61 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 1: by mail. I don't think a Republican will win a 62 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: close race for the foreseeable future if you don't go 63 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: back to the constitutionality that state legislatures and state legislatures 64 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 1: only make election law has per of the Constitution, and 65 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: the court's going to find for that in this more 66 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: of the North Carolina case. If you don't go back 67 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 1: to that, forget about it. You can't play on that field. 68 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: These secretaries of state like Steve Simon and Minnesota, or 69 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: these ages, or even governors, they don't rewrite election law. 70 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:03,559 Speaker 1: They don't exploit COVID for rewriting election law for more honesty. 71 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 1: They do it to get out more Democrats and make 72 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: it easier to vote. And that's why they want illegal 73 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: immigrants to be able to vote in municipal elections, and 74 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: they're trying to get that done. You combine open borders 75 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: with the modern welfare state and with elections, and it's 76 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: a permanent Democrat and majority. Why are we even talking 77 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 1: about playing on their playing field. We got to keep 78 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: pushing for honest elections and voting the way the Constitution 79 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: says we ought to vote. But if you take a 80 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: look at my races in the House and Senate well 81 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: outspent thanks to corporate America six to one, seven to one, 82 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: ten to one. It's nuts, it really is. And you've 83 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: got to start looking into what these nonprofit networks like Arabella, 84 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 1: like George Soros's Open Society foundations are doing to abuse 85 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:01,520 Speaker 1: their nonprofit status. And it's not just them feeding our 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: future in Minneapolis two hundred and fifty million dollar scam. 87 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: And what do you know, some of the principles donated 88 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: to Democrats. Didn't see that coming. And everything doesn't make 89 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: sense right about now. That's why Republicans are frustrated. That's 90 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: why they're so mad at the Senators for bailing out 91 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 1: the Democrats. You've got inflation, so they're spending more money. 92 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,279 Speaker 1: You've got a border crisis, an invasion, so we're protecting Ukraine. 93 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:27,679 Speaker 1: You've got more crimes who were defunding the police. You've 94 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 1: got an administration that wants to terminate Title forty two, 95 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,799 Speaker 1: which makes people apply for asylum due to a health 96 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: condition in their home country across the other side of 97 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: the border. They want to undo that because they say, well, 98 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: Title forty two. Title forty two is you know, it 99 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: doesn't comply anymore because the pandemic's over, except the Biden 100 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: administration keeps extending the pandemic emergency so they can keep 101 00:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: subsidizing people not to work. You can't have a one 102 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:04,600 Speaker 1: way or the other. Of course, that's no obstacle to 103 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: the ACLU. Here's what they had to say not long ago. 104 00:06:08,960 --> 00:06:12,279 Speaker 1: I also think people are overstating what's happening at the border. 105 00:06:12,320 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 1: If you close the border for so long, of course 106 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 1: there's going to be a temporary influx of people, but 107 00:06:17,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: ultimately it'll even out, and the federal government has more 108 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: than enough resources to deal with this. I think Congress 109 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: needs to put more resources in. It's all about enforcement now. 110 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: But these families, I mean, you hear people saying, well, 111 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: this is a national security crisis. If you would see 112 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: these families at the border. These families walk over the 113 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: border and they just sit down with their little children, 114 00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: want to apply for asylum. They're not bringing drugs, they're 115 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: not a danger, and so let's move some of the 116 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: enforcement resources into processing cases. And what he's saying is, 117 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 1: let's have absolute amnesty. And this is what Democrats have 118 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: believed for quite some time. And a nation that doesn't 119 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: control its borders is no nation at all. Why are 120 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: they leaving? Why aren't we talking to Mexico and Central 121 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:05,360 Speaker 1: America saying why are so many of your people leaving? 122 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: You need to do something about this because the American 123 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: taxpayer can't afford it. The American taxpayer, courtesy of a 124 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two Supreme Court decision, has to educate illegals. 125 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,920 Speaker 1: In nineteen eighty two as well, or maybe it was 126 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: eighty five, the Emergency Medical Treatment Act. Now they get 127 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: emergency medical treatment, they want to allow them to vote. 128 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: This is what's going to happen. What's happened to California, 129 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: which used to be Rankan country and is now Newsome country, 130 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: is exactly what's going to happen to the rest of 131 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 1: the country. And that's why Democrats love it. Chuck Schumer 132 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 1: just doesn't want amnesty for dreamers. He says, I want 133 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: a path to citizenship for However, many undocumented immigrants are here. 134 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: So this is the New Way Forward. Act but not 135 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: only in deportion deportation, excuse me, but grant illegals the 136 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: right to come back at the US taxpayer expense. This 137 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: is what the absolute goal is. And yet, and yet, 138 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 1: Ukraine's border is more important than our southern border. You know, 139 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: the court stayed this ninth this type of forty two 140 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: removal by who else? Emmitt Sullivan, the US district activist 141 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:25,080 Speaker 1: judge in DC. Where no Republicans going to get a 142 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: fair hearing in district court in Washington, d C. That's 143 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: why all these cases are brought there in January sixth 144 00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: and all the rest. But they want to they want 145 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: to get this type of forty two repealed. If if 146 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 1: in fact it is repealed. One particular group estimated eighteen 147 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,440 Speaker 1: thousand a day. That would be six point five seven 148 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: million aliens a year, a population larger than Colorado, Maryland 149 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 1: or Missouri. This country can handle that. This country's finance 150 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: can handle that. The wall was working. When I was 151 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: in Congress, we had real progress under seven hundred thousand 152 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: total enforcements a year. In twenty eighteen, and the Biden administration, 153 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: starting on his first day in office, when he signed 154 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 1: seventeen executive orders, six of them related to immigration. On 155 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: his first day in office, he rolled back the construction 156 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: of the wall. They started chipping away a Title forty two, 157 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 1: the Migrant Protection Protocol or Protocol Protection I should say, 158 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: declared a deportation more terror. They flung the border door 159 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: wide open. They did it on behalf of the Chamber 160 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 1: of Commerce crowd. They did it on behalf of Democrats, 161 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 1: and it is the battle we are losing. Not just 162 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:49,079 Speaker 1: losing mildly. This is a crisis of historic proportions. Millions 163 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:53,600 Speaker 1: and millions being displaced all over the country, and we 164 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: simply can't sustain it. As Milton Friedman said so many 165 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 1: years ago, you can have open borders, you can have 166 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: an open or you can have a welfare state. But 167 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: you can't have both. This is selling out your country 168 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: for power, and the Republicans need to stand up to it. 169 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:11,520 Speaker 1: Starting now, I'm Jason Lewis in for Clay and Buck today. 170 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: We'll get us more calls and Devin Nunez well some 171 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: of the Shenamigans at Twitter and the dj when we 172 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 1: come back as well, don't go away, Okay, back on 173 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck Show. The author of Party Animal, 174 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: The Truth about President Trump, power, politics and the partisan press. 175 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: That's me. Former Congressman Jason Lewis sitting in for the 176 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: Dynamic Duo today. They'll be back next week. They're probably 177 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 1: going all over going over there all their playoff prognostications 178 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: right about now, wouldn't you say they're doing a great job. 179 00:10:39,040 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: And I'm glad to be informed today one eight hundred 180 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:43,679 Speaker 1: two A two to eight eight two. We'll be back 181 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 1: tomorrow as well, but right now, let's go to Kelly 182 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,560 Speaker 1: down in Texas, hopefully where the grid is still sturdy. 183 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: You are on the Clay and Buck show. Okay, thank you. 184 00:10:54,320 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 1: Question for you, Jason, why why did send her cotton 185 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 1: from Arkanstop vote with the Democrats on this humendous the off. 186 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: You know, I know Tom, and I've worked with Tom, 187 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: and he's a great guy. And I like Tom and 188 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,199 Speaker 1: he's very very he's got a lot of integrity, but 189 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 1: he likes so many Republicans are stuck in this defense 190 00:11:20,800 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 1: conundrum to be to get to the point. The reason 191 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: is the NDAA bill, the Defense Bill, eight hundred and 192 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:32,120 Speaker 1: fifty eight billion dollars of which no one can account for, 193 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: of which the military contractors will get rich, the defense contractors, 194 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: and which allows a lot of Republicans to come home 195 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:42,079 Speaker 1: and pound their chests and say, look at me, I'm 196 00:11:42,120 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: pro defense. If you want to look at why people 197 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: like Cheney and Kinsinger and the Armed Services Committee and 198 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: the Senators ditched Trump. It had nothing to do with 199 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 1: the election, It had nothing to do with his idiosyncrasies. 200 00:11:56,840 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: When he started talking about ending the endless wars abroad 201 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: and bringing in America home, that was it for Liz Cheney. 202 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: She came to Congress to plus up defense. You know, 203 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: when I got to Congress, the defense budget undersea questration 204 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,719 Speaker 1: was about five hundred and fifty billion dollars. You know 205 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 1: what it is today. I just told you eight hundred 206 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,439 Speaker 1: and fifty eight billion with the OKO that doesn't even 207 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 1: include overseas contingency operations. So you've got a situation here, 208 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: and I saw it up close and personal when I 209 00:12:28,760 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: was in Congress, where you'd get these defense, big spending 210 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: defense hawks who don't heed General Eisenhower's warning or don't 211 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: bother to heed Ike's warning about a military industrial complex 212 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 1: that perpetuates the armaments industry, perpetuates quite frankly, intervention abroad 213 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,800 Speaker 1: because they have to have something to sell it to 214 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: and they're afraid that, oh, they'll go home and somebody 215 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,880 Speaker 1: will say they're not supporting the troops or something. And 216 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,800 Speaker 1: it's sad because Eisenhower was knew a little bit about this, 217 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: an he warned about this all those decades ago, in 218 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty. And what happens is they go to Congress, Saint, 219 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't care. I'm you know, whether it's Mike Gallagher 220 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: or Michael Waltz or Mike Turner, or Liz Cheney or 221 00:13:12,760 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: Adam Kinzinger or the defense hawks in the Senate. My 222 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: goal is to triple the defense budget. Well, well, Kelly, 223 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 1: do you think Chuck Schumer and the Democrats will sit 224 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: by and say, oh, okay, you can plus up defense 225 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: all you want, and we'll just sit back here and 226 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: we'll cut social spending. They won't. So what do they do. 227 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: They said, well, you can plus up defense, and Biden 228 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:38,880 Speaker 1: went along with it eight hundred and fifty eight billion, 229 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: but only on one condition. If we can triple social spending. 230 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: And the defense hawks say, okay, I'm gonna tell you 231 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: something that's in my book. Liz Cheney once said to 232 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:53,679 Speaker 1: me on the floor, I don't care what it takes 233 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: for the national debt. I want more money for defense. 234 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 1: The words to that effect. So if that's your view, 235 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 1: you end up with the bipartisan budget agreement that blows 236 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,440 Speaker 1: off the sequester, which I voted against, and blew open 237 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 1: the lids from the Budget Control Act, and they doubled everything. 238 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: But budget agreements never cut spending. They agree on increases 239 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: in spending. I scratch back, you scratch mine, And in 240 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:24,400 Speaker 1: a nutshell, that's the chip that gets the Democrats these blowouts. 241 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: We will increase NDAA spending to your heart's content if 242 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: you give us more. And at some point Republicans are 243 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: going to have to realize what Eisenhower warned against, that defense, 244 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 1: although very very necessary, these foreign interventions are not, and 245 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 1: it's still a government program. I offered an amendment on 246 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 1: the Budget Committee to audit the Pentagon. It was voted 247 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: down by Republicans and Democrats, of course. So in a nutshell, 248 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: that's it. Does that answer your question? Well, at right 249 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 1: at the beginning that years speech, you said that Senator 250 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 1: Cotton was it had integrity. I don't think he's practicing it. 251 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 1: I really don't. And as far as I'm concerned, all 252 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 1: Democrats are narcissists. I've learned that the hard way. Well, 253 00:15:20,760 --> 00:15:22,960 Speaker 1: I don't think you can trust a party that is 254 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: willing to exploit a public health challenge to rewrite election 255 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: law farm out our manufacturing to China and then going 256 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: to Ukraine while China is the biggest threat. So you're 257 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: quite right about that. All I'm telling you is that 258 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: if you if you look at the Armed Services Committee 259 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 1: and the people who are make up of those committees, 260 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: they are dedicated to increasing military spending without limits. And 261 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: as long as that's the case, if you don't have 262 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 1: spending cuts across the board, you have no credibility to 263 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: get the other side to reduce their spending. Anyway. That's it. 264 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: You may not like it as a Republican, but that's 265 00:16:01,360 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: what I saw one eight hundred two eight two two 266 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 1: eight eight two. Devin Nuniez will join us when we 267 00:16:06,040 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: come back. Don't touch that die well, thank you, thank you. 268 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,360 Speaker 1: I don't have to tell our next guests the Senate 269 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: is where all good things go to die. Well, you know, 270 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:24,239 Speaker 1: I'm just saying a little experience there. But a representative, 271 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: Devin Nuniez was a longtime member of the House of Representatives, 272 00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and you know him has chair of the Intelligence Committee, 273 00:16:30,680 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: and boy does he know a lot that is not 274 00:16:32,880 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 1: getting out because of this censorious spiking of stories. So 275 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 1: he joins us today Representative Devin Nuniez, Devin High, How 276 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: are you, hey, Jason. It's great to be with you. 277 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Happy late Christmas and happy New Year. Same to you, 278 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: my friend. You know, I can remember when we sound 279 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,120 Speaker 1: all those good bills in one hundred and fifteenth over 280 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: to the Senate, and somehow they just never made it 281 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 1: out of that chamber, a lot of them. I wonder why, Well, 282 00:16:57,200 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: some of that can be good and some of it 283 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: can be bad. Right, Yeah, I guess, I guess. I 284 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: do want to talk a little bit about your tenure 285 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: at Intel, because you were in the midst of all 286 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:09,879 Speaker 1: of this nonsense that's now coming to light with the 287 00:17:09,920 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 1: Twitter files and where I'm going with that. I don't 288 00:17:13,320 --> 00:17:16,880 Speaker 1: want just the laptop story to be the lead here, 289 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 1: because there's something that still hasn't been completely vetted of 290 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: which you were a part of, and that was this. 291 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:26,919 Speaker 1: Really they talk about overthrowing elections, the more serious, not 292 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: more serious, the only serious attempt at overthrowing an election, 293 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: and that was the Russian collision scandal concocted by Perkins 294 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: Coy and Fusion, GPS and Democrats and then within the 295 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:44,199 Speaker 1: bowels of the National Security State and d OJ that 296 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 1: that members of Congress are supposed to oversee. But boy, 297 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: they keep a lot of things quiet, don't they. Well, 298 00:17:51,960 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 1: I think the sad part that we've learned since we 299 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: conducted our investigation that started in twenty and seventeen where 300 00:17:57,800 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: we you know, we uncovered the Russian hoax, is that, now, Jason, 301 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: would you really have as you have a rogue part 302 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: of the FBI that essentially acts as a as a 303 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:11,240 Speaker 1: gestapo group. And I say FBI, and it's really it's 304 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: really the DOJ. People forget that the FBI common term, 305 00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: but but the FBI reports to the DOJ. And I 306 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 1: think what they've used is they've they've hidden behind National 307 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: Security and the National Security Division to really create a 308 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 1: small elite unit that can operate kind of on their own. 309 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: And really what they've been doing is is they've been 310 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: reporting to the Democratic Operatism, the Democratic Party, and if 311 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: you look at it during the Obama administration, they think 312 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 1: they figured out how to do it, and then they 313 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: put in the people they needed at the at the 314 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: right spots at the DOJ and the FBI, and of 315 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 1: course the Russia hoax. You know, it's like the gift 316 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:56,719 Speaker 1: that keeps on giving for them, because every time they 317 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: run out, it's up in or they get busted. They say, 318 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: the Russians whose Facebook and Donald Trump got elected, And 319 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 1: of course, you know, fifty plus percent of the American 320 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: people just nod their heads and go, yeah, that was 321 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 1: really bad, you know, never realizing that, you know, the 322 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:15,159 Speaker 1: whole time the only ones that had any ties to 323 00:19:15,240 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 1: Russians were the Democrats, the Clinton campaign. You know, later 324 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:23,239 Speaker 1: you move on to the Biden you know, you talk 325 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: about the Biden laptop. Uh, you know, the story of 326 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:32,919 Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Nobody talks about anymore. The the Ukraine impeachment hopes. 327 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: That also where you had ties from Russia, Ukraine, China 328 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: to Joe Biden and impeached Trump four. It was really 329 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,720 Speaker 1: they should have been peaching Biden. So I think they 330 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: were worried at the time that they were going to 331 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 1: be out at the Democrat Party's close connection to Ukraine, Russia, 332 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,280 Speaker 1: and China. And this is how profound the gas lighting is. 333 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 1: I mean, it was right there in front of us 334 00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:03,240 Speaker 1: when Vice President of the United States tells the Ukrainians 335 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:07,000 Speaker 1: to stop prosecuting his son and the son of a bitch, 336 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: they did it, And I mean imagine if anybody in 337 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: the Trump administration was caught on tape doing that, and 338 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: yet they kept gaslighting and gaslighting. And you know, unless 339 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,680 Speaker 1: be blunt here too, Devin, that you look at the 340 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 1: history of Ukraine, certainly going back to their revolution that 341 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: happened in the first part of the millennia, and see 342 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 1: whose hands were all over that. So this notion that 343 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: Ukrainians are godlike and everybody else, including Trump officials, are bad, 344 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,960 Speaker 1: it is really something that's been created by the Democrat 345 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: media complex. Yeah, and there's this strange tie that we 346 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: that we still were only in the beginning parts of 347 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: this tie between the Democrat Party, the Biden Obama probably 348 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,719 Speaker 1: they're large, they're large donors, and the Ukrainian government, Ukrainian leaders, 349 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: and if you look at this, seems like they've been tied, 350 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, to this corruption that you know, ironically they 351 00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: you know, they they targeted to Paul Manafort for um, 352 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: you know, FARA violations and everything else. And it's just 353 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 1: it's hard to fathom how, you know, how did all 354 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:20,400 Speaker 1: these Democrats that had the same exact ties or actually 355 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: way worse in terms of the amount of money they 356 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 1: were taking out of Ukraine and their ties to the 357 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,359 Speaker 1: US government. And for you know, for the listeners who 358 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 1: don't know this is you know, you're supposed to register 359 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: if you if you have ties to a foreign entity 360 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: and you are lobbying or talking to parts of the 361 00:21:37,960 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: United States government. Um, you know, you have to you 362 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,679 Speaker 1: have to report those by law. Now, traditionally that was 363 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 1: treated as as a way for you know, people get 364 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:50,959 Speaker 1: kind of get their hand slapped, they get a warning, 365 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: they might have to pay a fine. You know, for 366 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 1: the first time in history, Republicans were you know, essentially 367 00:21:56,240 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: sentenced you know, to life in prison practically. And still 368 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 1: all these other people have skated and the talk about 369 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,439 Speaker 1: selling access and this is the big guy, and this 370 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: is what the House Republicans need to look into and 371 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: don't let go until they get the truth the selling 372 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 1: of access to America and all this money again on 373 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: tape by former business partners going to the big guy. 374 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: And yet Ukraine has this hagiography about it, and it's 375 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: one reason why the omnimous bill was passed. Well, there's 376 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: another forty five billion for Ukraine, and nda A got 377 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:31,560 Speaker 1: plussed up to eight hundred and fifty eight billion, and 378 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: so all these Republicans jump on board, and all of 379 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,560 Speaker 1: a sudden you get a spending blowout. The reason people 380 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 1: don't know this is because of this ironclad censorship that 381 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: state actors in social media. But it really starts with 382 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: the mainstream media. It starts with CNN put out the lies, 383 00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: and then they're expanded by social media without any counterweight. 384 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: And that is really what the Twitter files are about, 385 00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 1: of which you know more than probably anybody. Yeah. Look, 386 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 1: I mean that's why you know I left Congress, you know, 387 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: precisely because of this reason. It wasn't the fake news. 388 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 1: We could build the fake news and the ties to 389 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:10,959 Speaker 1: the left. What we couldn't deal with is when they 390 00:23:11,000 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: controlled the way that that most Americans received their news 391 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: and information now, which is through the social media companies. 392 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,640 Speaker 1: And so you know, I was one of the first 393 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: to be banned by banned by Twitter, or shadow band 394 00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:24,560 Speaker 1: by Twitter. Along with a few of my other colleagues. 395 00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 1: We busted them in two thousand and seventeen. You know why, 396 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 1: because I was the only one that was speaking the 397 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: truth on the Russia hoax. So what a better way 398 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,640 Speaker 1: to handle me than to, you know, to basically slimy 399 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: slander me, to fame me in the media. And then 400 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,679 Speaker 1: when I would go on social media to try to 401 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: defend myself, you know I would get two likes, right, 402 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:47,640 Speaker 1: two lights, you know one you know, one point two 403 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 1: million followers or whatever I had, you know, across I 404 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: think one and a half million across all the platforms 405 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: back in the day. You know, I'd put out a 406 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: statement that would you give the truth on on something 407 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: that as I was being attacked in the fake by 408 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: the fake news, and you know, if it could be 409 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: negative likes, Jason, I would get negative likes. So I 410 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: left Congress to start, you know, to help Donald Trump right, 411 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: start a social media platform, true social so that we 412 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 1: could give the American people their voice back and open. 413 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: It'd be clear about this Twitter file simply prove something. 414 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 1: The Witter file dump proves what we all knew. But 415 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: big question. And you get these silly libertarians on the 416 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:25,679 Speaker 1: so called right once in a while said, well, it's 417 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: a private company, they can do what they want. How 418 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: would you feel if cal Edison or or any utility 419 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:32,639 Speaker 1: company just said, you know what, we're not going to 420 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:36,680 Speaker 1: give power to conservatives more common carriers, Um, we've got 421 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: special privileges from the government, but we can still discriminate 422 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:42,439 Speaker 1: on viewpoint. No one would put up with that, but 423 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: that that's exactly what social media was doing. Yeah, exactly. 424 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,000 Speaker 1: And then when you know, we went out and created 425 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: our own social media company, True Social, um every you 426 00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: know that you hear this all the time from you know, 427 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,720 Speaker 1: it's not just our friends on the on the ride 428 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: and libertarians. You also hear it mostly from the left 429 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,200 Speaker 1: than Democrats. And they would say for years, they would say, 430 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: you guys are the pro business party. Just go create 431 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: your own platform well and starts your own company. Well, 432 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: you know, we've done that at True Social, very successful, 433 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:16,720 Speaker 1: the third largest social media company behind behind Meta and 434 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 1: which is Facebook and Instagram and then of course Twitter. 435 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 1: You know, we're the third largest now. And yet we've 436 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: applied to the SEC for a merger with a financing company, 437 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 1: and you know, and here we are, you know, a 438 00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:35,560 Speaker 1: year into this and the Biden administration SEC guess what, Oh, 439 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,920 Speaker 1: they have the merger company, the financing company on multiple investigations, 440 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,479 Speaker 1: you know SEC investigations. So they're investigating, you know, the 441 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: financing company that we have, while you've got the mini 442 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:51,600 Speaker 1: made off guy that's funneling money to the Democratic Party 443 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: who's running rampant, you know, stilling with the billions. We 444 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 1: don't even know how many in the crypto crook who 445 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: gave the vast, vast majority already of money. And by 446 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,440 Speaker 1: the way, let's just quit carrying water for corporate America 447 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,840 Speaker 1: as Republicans. These guys are in bed with the Democrats. 448 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 1: And I don't care whether it's you know, the crypto 449 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: crook or anybody else. They outraise us every single day, 450 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of it's from Wall Street and corporate America. Well, 451 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 1: it's a dangerous concoction. I've said for for many years 452 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,879 Speaker 1: days and even before you came to Congress. This was 453 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,640 Speaker 1: back in the early parts of my career, that there 454 00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: was this misnomer that somehow big business and corporate America 455 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: was with the Republicans. And I always said the most 456 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: dangerous part of all was big government, the hard left, 457 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: and big business all merging together. And this was in 458 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: the mid mid two thousand, right. And then of course 459 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,440 Speaker 1: you added on to that the social media companies, because 460 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,600 Speaker 1: what happened is is that and now you're really seeing it, 461 00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: they don't they're not even afraid of it anymore. They've 462 00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: taken over nearly every big business in America. They're all afraid, 463 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 1: they all they all have to be woke, you know. 464 00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 1: And now look, a year or two ago, nobody even 465 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,120 Speaker 1: knew what the hell was. But all the corporate board 466 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: rooms in America say, you know what woke is. They 467 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 1: have to have one of every category and if you 468 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:08,679 Speaker 1: and you can even make up new ones. And then 469 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: they'll say, hey, you know, this dude thinks that he's 470 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 1: a woman, thinks that he could get pregnant. So guess what, big, 471 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 1: you know, big corporate America, you better put one of 472 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 1: those on your board. This is the real challenge. This 473 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 1: is the real challenge for tradition, for conservatives, for the Constitution. 474 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: And that is the institutional rot that has taken hold. 475 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: Whether it's in corporate America or the classrooms or nonprofit community, 476 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: it is everywhere. It is ubiquitous, and it's so impossible 477 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,640 Speaker 1: to get through it. And that's why it's so sad 478 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: to see the Senate capitulate. And it wasn't just an omnibus. Devin. 479 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: Remember in Trump's lane Duck twenty twenty, nobody votes against 480 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:47,560 Speaker 1: the NDAA bill. Nobody wants to go home, and especially 481 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:49,959 Speaker 1: Republicans and say, oh, I didn't support the troops, so 482 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 1: it's going to pass. We had a chance to attach 483 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 1: Section two thirty reform, basically giving social media the same 484 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: treatment as publishers in that lane. Duck n d a 485 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: a bill, and for some un godly reason, it was 486 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: yanked at the last minute. And yeah, look, I mean 487 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: there was a lot of reasons for that, you know 488 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: at that time. Remember you know, it's not it wasn't 489 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: that easy, Jason. And look, and I'm not I believe 490 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,679 Speaker 1: the sex and two thirty needs to be reformed, but 491 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: it's not an end all, be all. And here's the challenge, 492 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,359 Speaker 1: right and it has a guy who you know I 493 00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 1: have not hesitated too. And I really believe this strongly 494 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: that the judicial branch or government has largely skated on 495 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: a lot of this, on everything we've been talking about 496 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 1: right now, but especially as it relates to big tech 497 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: in the media. And why don't you have, Devin, we're 498 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 1: up against the clock, we're up against the clock. Why 499 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: don't you hold that thought if you can hang on 500 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 1: one more segment, we'll come back with you. And you've 501 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 1: finished that thought, Because I think it's really important talking 502 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,920 Speaker 1: with the former Representative Devin Nowton Yez of Truth Social. 503 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm Jason Lewis back with more on Clay and Buck 504 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,280 Speaker 1: when we return. Well, we've got good news and bad news. 505 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 1: There's a good news is Southwest Airline says normal operations 506 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: once again starting tomorrow. The bad news is the government 507 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 1: is still trying to censor you, and no one knows 508 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: more about that than Representative Devin Nuniez. He was a 509 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: former chair of the Intelligence Committee. I served with him 510 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 1: briefly in Congress and now he's at Truth Social. Devin, 511 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 1: you were talking about Section two thirty and I think 512 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: it should have been attached that NDAA bill, and I 513 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: think that would go a long ways if these guys 514 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: were responsible legally for everything their users put on there. 515 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:27,720 Speaker 1: It might be unfair, but it would get them to 516 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:31,080 Speaker 1: quit censoring, maybe so they could become a neutral platform 517 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,520 Speaker 1: again without that sort of cudgel over their head. They're 518 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: not changing well. And the challenge is what I was 519 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,360 Speaker 1: saying in the last segment, Jason, is is that you know, 520 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: I have been serious about getting the judicial branch involved 521 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 1: in this, and I've brought several lawsuits against big media 522 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 1: and big tech over the last few years, you know, 523 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: trying really just to clear my name and to point 524 00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: out to people that, look, this is happening, and when 525 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: it means this is what you know, what you just learned? 526 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 1: What Elon Musk, you know, did I mean he did 527 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 1: a great service. I know it cost him dearly, cost 528 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: him a lot of money, um, you know, a lot 529 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,720 Speaker 1: more money than Twitter was worth. But you know, in 530 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 1: the end um, you know. Look, a lot of people 531 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: I know are skeptical, like, look, what's the biggest, the 532 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,560 Speaker 1: richest man in the world, you know, to get control 533 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: of it? Is it going to be any better? Look, 534 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,760 Speaker 1: we don't know the answer in the long run to that, 535 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 1: but at least in the short run here we have 536 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,880 Speaker 1: seen how just how bad these social media companies can be. 537 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: And look, I brought some serious court cases. I still 538 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: have some that are pending. But you know this, if 539 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 1: if the judicial branch would have let my lawsuits proceed 540 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, we would have found this 541 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,000 Speaker 1: out a long time ago. And look, let's not forget 542 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,640 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's focused on the Twitter files because that's 543 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,920 Speaker 1: what we know right now, but it's really only the 544 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: tip of the iceberg, you know, what are the how 545 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 1: about big media working with the Democrats and these big 546 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,160 Speaker 1: tech companies where you're going with this Instagram. There's a 547 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 1: two pronged approach to this. One is the Clarence Thomas 548 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: view of The New York Times v. Sullivan that says, now, 549 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: we're making it a little bit too hard to for 550 00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 1: someone who's defamed like Devin Nuniaz to bring a case. 551 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: And it is true when they paint a false light 552 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: of politicians or any human being, whether it's Covington High 553 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 1: schoolers or anybody else, they know exactly what they're doing. 554 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,000 Speaker 1: At CNN, they know exactly what they're doing. At MSNBC. 555 00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 1: They're giving painting people in a false light, which is 556 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: a form of defamation. They did it to me, they 557 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: did it to you. The other angle here, as you're 558 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: talking about, is under Citizens United, and that is corporations. 559 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: A may not contribute, but if they coordinate, or if 560 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: a pack coordinate, you've got to report it. And I 561 00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 1: think what you're getting at here is the media exemption. 562 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 1: If you've got CNN being fed sources by Democrats or 563 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 1: never Trumpers, and they're coordinating, and yet they're a legacy 564 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: corporation how's that any different than next on mobile doing it, 565 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: which would be prosecuted. Well, look at I have the 566 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 1: best of both worlds here, right, So you just talked 567 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,840 Speaker 1: about defamation. It's almost in It's nearly impossible, and it's 568 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: very difficult to bring these cases if you're a public figure. 569 00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 1: You know, I've been the only one actually successfully bring 570 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: several of these cases. But you know, they still just 571 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: languish in court. You know, you go through discovery. Of 572 00:32:18,560 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: course they don't have any information, they never have anything. 573 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: But then you know, lo and behold when Twitter files 574 00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: come out and somebody gets hold of it. Wow, you 575 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: really see the coordination between the Democrats, your government, law enforcement, 576 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party all their picked donors, and then the 577 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:38,280 Speaker 1: social media companies and so you know what. You know, 578 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,720 Speaker 1: it's gonna take time here, but you know, hopefully the 579 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: udicial court, the courts will get involved. You can plea 580 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Congress can investigate Thring more likely Representative Devin Nuni as 581 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,320 Speaker 1: former representative. Always a pleasure and we'll see on truth 582 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:55,720 Speaker 1: social my friend. Thanks for joining us, Fleet, Travis and 583 00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton on the front line of