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Speaker 6: So I wanted to start.
Speaker 5: Off the show with the news that have been happening
Speaker 5: since our last show. We learn about Sam Williams's arrest
Speaker 5: and we haven't discussed this on the show just yet.
Speaker 5: He was arrested last weekend for possession of a control
Speaker 5: substance and unlawful caring of a weapon. The team since
Speaker 5: then has come out and spoke about it, Jerry Jones,
Speaker 5: Mike McCarthy and basically saying that yes, they've addressed the issue,
Speaker 5: they don't expect any changes. He's expected to play this weekend,
Speaker 5: but wanted to get your thoughts on your opinion of
Speaker 5: him as a player, what he's doing outside of the field,
Speaker 5: how that is affecting him on the field and around
Speaker 5: the locker room, and just whatever thoughts you have.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there were some questions about Sam Williams when he
Speaker 8: was before he was drafted at Mississippi. There were teams
Speaker 8: that were going in there and digging in on and
Speaker 8: much like what you do the normal, you know, trying
Speaker 8: to get the background, talking to coaches, talking to equipment men,
Speaker 8: you know, trainers, whoever you have to do. And there's
Speaker 8: some people that did have questions. Were they you know,
Speaker 8: were they things that were terminal. Some teams felt like
Speaker 8: that maybe it wouldn't be worth the trouble. The Cowboys
Speaker 8: had done their due diligence on the player, so they
Speaker 8: had an idea of potentially what they're getting into. Unfortunately
Speaker 8: for Sam, he's early in his career.
Speaker 2: He's found a way.
Speaker 8: To put himself in some bad situations, usually when it's
Speaker 8: him in a car, whether it's him dealing with us
Speaker 8: beating or what we've just came up with here. But
Speaker 8: it just kind of shows you, though, that you can
Speaker 8: control things to a point when you have your players
Speaker 8: at the facility. Your biggest worry as a front office
Speaker 8: member is when these players leave the building and go
Speaker 8: do other things, and you know, you could do all
Speaker 8: you can to say, Okay, we feel like we have
Speaker 8: a handle on what Sam is as a person and
Speaker 8: that he'll be able to take care of things. But
Speaker 8: Sam's proven, at least the last couple of years, there's
Speaker 8: been some difficulty on the way. But we also remember
Speaker 8: the first three years of Ezekiel Elliott and a lot
Speaker 8: of us thought, man, he's not going to make it
Speaker 8: to the second contract, so here we go, but you know,
Speaker 8: and things then turned around. So hopefully those things will
Speaker 8: work in Sam Williams favor, that maybe he won't put
Speaker 8: himself in these situations that he has been the last
Speaker 8: couple of times out.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you just don't want it to be always. You
Speaker 7: don't want to be the guy that has always has something,
Speaker 7: you know, and minor, major, whatever it is. And I
Speaker 7: don't think we're hitting the major points. Yeah, but when
Speaker 7: you get a bunch of minor things, then it'd always
Speaker 7: becomes something. And kind of like you said that, when
Speaker 7: they leave the facility, what happens, what happens.
Speaker 2: And you know, I.
Speaker 7: Think that he's a fun player to watch. I said
Speaker 7: this on on one O five to three this morning
Speaker 7: when we were talking to the guys. I thought McCarthy's
Speaker 7: quote about he needs to slow down, I don't he's
Speaker 7: not just talking about driving the car. He's talking about
Speaker 7: just living his life, living life and slowing down, which
Speaker 7: sounds very easy for any player to do. Just slow down.
Speaker 7: Your job is to speed up. Your job is to
Speaker 7: is to wreck havoc every single time that the ball
Speaker 7: is snapped. And I do think it's a tough balance
Speaker 7: for young guys to to. They're living their life a
Speaker 7: certain way, they play a football and they got to
Speaker 7: slow down. I wonder how NASCAR drivers drive around the street. Really,
Speaker 7: it's what I wonder, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 7: like that's their job to do that. But yet when
Speaker 7: real life hits you gotta you got to calm down.
Speaker 7: That's just the balance that I think all young players have.
Speaker 8: To figure It also shows you what they think of
Speaker 8: Sam though as a player. Usually if you start to
Speaker 8: add things up and you're getting in trouble a lot,
Speaker 8: they find a way to move on from you, you know,
Speaker 8: And that's I hate to admit that, but that's the truth,
Speaker 8: you know. I mean, the players are treated. You could
Speaker 8: go back to the history of Jimmy Johnson here or
Speaker 8: any coach. Hey, you treat your star players differently than
Speaker 8: you do maybe some of the guys in the.
Speaker 2: Bottom of the roster. That's just that's just the way
Speaker 2: it is.
Speaker 8: So But to Nick's point, Mike's right about the you know,
Speaker 8: slow down, slow down in life. I mean, don't you
Speaker 8: don't have to live it the way you're living it.
Speaker 8: And hopefully he'll learn. I mean, it's it's it's tough.
Speaker 8: It's a tough it's a tough balance. So you know
Speaker 8: you're not in Oxford, Mississippi anymore. You can't get out
Speaker 8: of the things that you probably once got out of
Speaker 8: and now you know you're you're That spotlight is clearly
Speaker 8: on you, and you make national news when you pull
Speaker 8: stunts like this.
Speaker 6: The good thing is he's a very likable guy.
Speaker 5: You really like the guy interview. He doesn't you when
Speaker 5: you talk to him. He doesn't mean any harm or
Speaker 5: anything bad. And the Cowboys have shown their support. I
Speaker 5: think Mike McCarthy mentioned, or I can't remember if it
Speaker 5: was him or Jerry Jones, the word maturity. I can
Speaker 5: say maturity, maturity. He needs to mature and that you
Speaker 5: presented the Ezekiel example, which is a great example. But
Speaker 5: I think he's gonna find the right way to do
Speaker 5: things and and learn from it and hopefully keep improving
Speaker 5: because everything we've seen on the field so far we love.
Speaker 5: Obviously slowing down in certain areas where he's making those mistakes. Uh,
Speaker 5: that needs to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, that's when I was.
Speaker 8: I was with you guys when Ezekiel it was here,
Speaker 8: and uh, you know the early part, and I remember
Speaker 8: just having meetings like we were always on alert. You know,
Speaker 8: there was always something that Nick was always saying, Hey, well,
Speaker 8: somebody bring their iPad. You know, we're going to lunch.
Speaker 8: There might be something happening that we need to work
Speaker 8: on here. And you know, there was always something that
Speaker 8: we were dealing with. And then that part went away,
Speaker 8: and good for Zeke and hopefully it will for Sam.
Speaker 9: You know.
Speaker 7: But one of the things that helped it go away
Speaker 7: for Zeke was getting suspended six games. And so like
Speaker 7: you said about about Sam Williams, it saysn't Mississippi anymore
Speaker 7: where maybe things were and this is not just one school.
Speaker 7: It's happened to a lot of places where star players.
Speaker 7: Whatever happens that I'm not saying it gets covered up,
Speaker 7: but it gets taken caddled, it gets taken care of
Speaker 7: their caddle. And so far with Sam Williams, a couple
Speaker 7: of things happened and maybe it doesn't affect him on
Speaker 7: the field, but it's gonna have to affect you on
Speaker 7: the field, I think for them to maybe wake up.
Speaker 7: Hopefully it doesn't, but that could be a situation.
Speaker 8: What we've learned working for the Dallas Cowboys is that
Speaker 8: you do not want to put your fate in the
Speaker 8: hands of those folks in New York City, you know,
Speaker 8: with the NFL office, you don't want to do that
Speaker 8: because ultimately it like it's, well, this is this many
Speaker 8: game suspension?
Speaker 2: What what? No?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: What about?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: This guy was far worse. That guy was far worse.
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 8: So yeah, you just don't want them to step in
Speaker 8: on discipline, like Nick says, but it'll get your attention
Speaker 8: when they do financially, and you know, maybe I could
Speaker 8: say the number of games you might miss.
Speaker 6: All right, Well, let's switch gears a little bit.
Speaker 5: Yesterday Dak got a time, the chance to talk to
Speaker 5: the media, and I wanted you guys to comment on
Speaker 5: something that he said.
Speaker 6: He was talking about how great.
Speaker 5: He feels about where they are this year and talking
Speaker 5: about how much different it is than last year at
Speaker 5: this point, as far as the installation and everything that
Speaker 5: they're doing.
Speaker 6: Do you guys believe that I'm.
Speaker 5: Not saying like but you know, because sometimes we hear
Speaker 5: from players, Oh, I feel great obviously when speaking mainly
Speaker 5: about injuries and things like that, but in general, you
Speaker 5: hear those comments from guys like them. But as far
Speaker 5: as him talking about the installation, you know, all the
Speaker 5: changes that have occurred with my McCarthy now taking over
Speaker 5: for the play calling and all the new weapons that
Speaker 5: they currently have on offense, Do you guys feel that
Speaker 5: you have seen that during the course of training camp.
Speaker 7: I think so. I mean I remember that a few
Speaker 7: years ago you saw we say Dak friendly offense. I
Speaker 7: think this is a Dak friendly offense. I think that
Speaker 7: you know, he most quarterbacks love to check it down.
Speaker 7: I mean, you know, it's an easier throw, but they're
Speaker 7: checking it down to receivers that are open, that are
Speaker 7: schemed open, that are crossing over the middle. It's not
Speaker 7: just throwing it to Schultz for eight yards and seeing
Speaker 7: that he can get a first down. It's clicks on
Speaker 7: the move, it's gallop on the move, it's running backs
Speaker 7: out of the backfield. I think it's a good offense
Speaker 7: for Dak that also is going to be able to
Speaker 7: show how much speed that they have. So yeah, I
Speaker 7: can see where he's a little bit more comfortable with
Speaker 7: it because it's an offense that he understands. But also
Speaker 7: I think that they have some big play capabilities with
Speaker 7: these guys.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 8: The only way we get to really see how this
Speaker 8: offense is functioning is through practice because we haven't seen
Speaker 8: it well as far as Dak and the ones go.
Speaker 8: The guys that are going to run the you know
Speaker 8: they're gonna be the primary starters, you know, and it's
Speaker 8: gone up against one of the better defenses we feel
Speaker 8: in the league, and you know, there hasn't been those times.
Speaker 8: I think early in camp there were some protection issues
Speaker 8: that they were dealing with, and then things have kind
Speaker 8: of worked their way clean in some of those areas,
Speaker 8: maybe some of the questions they had. And now you
Speaker 8: get Zach Martin back, you get more of Terrence Steele practicing.
Speaker 8: Now you've got you know, you get Tyler Smith feeling
Speaker 8: more comfortable at left guard, Tyron Smith, all these things.
Speaker 8: You know that kind of but Nick's right, the routes,
Speaker 8: the combination, the way they're scheming, the way they're getting
Speaker 8: guys open, the route we saw the other day down
Speaker 8: the goal line, the swing that you went to Rico
Speaker 8: daddle off the pick. You know, those are kind of
Speaker 8: little hints that you could say, ah, okay, and you
Speaker 8: could see why. But if things were going bad, you
Speaker 8: would see it in practice. You would see balls being overthrown,
Speaker 8: you know, receiver stopping and balls now being overthrown, or
Speaker 8: balls not going to where they needed to be, or
Speaker 8: guys open and they're not finding I don't think when
Speaker 8: a new offense, new scheme, you worry about the installation
Speaker 8: of like everybody being on the same page. I know
Speaker 8: in the Jacksonville game, there was a couple of times
Speaker 8: with you know, when they were doing with Jalen Brooks,
Speaker 8: you know balls, but you know the second team ball
Speaker 8: going over his head route was a receiver coure. Those
Speaker 8: are the things that are the keys to tell you
Speaker 8: if things are being are smooth or not. And I
Speaker 8: think with the ones you're you're you're kind of been
Speaker 8: watching practice and it's there's not those those errors that
Speaker 8: you would give.
Speaker 6: I think like they're more on the same page.
Speaker 8: That's yeah, that's it, And I think that it's really
Speaker 8: I've really been impressed just watching practice and watching Brian
Speaker 8: Schottenheimer the way he's kind of involved. Mike is back
Speaker 8: with the walkie talkie kind of surveying. But you got coaches,
Speaker 8: and they've got a lot of new coaches, new line coach,
Speaker 8: new quarterback coach, new oc you know, they've got a
Speaker 8: lot of coaches and that's the one thing you would
Speaker 8: worry about that there's so much newness to this that
Speaker 8: it wouldn't look it wouldn't look like it's together. Their
Speaker 8: cohesiveness that you would want in the offense.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they throw the ball in the in the red
Speaker 7: zone very well. Like that's one thing. And it's hard
Speaker 7: to tell sometimes in practice because maybe they hold on
Speaker 7: to it for three or four seconds when in reality.
Speaker 2: You can't do that.
Speaker 7: But I still like the way you see in the
Speaker 7: two point plays, the red zone, the goal line. They
Speaker 7: throw the ball well in there. I think that they've
Speaker 7: completed a lot of passes. I just like what you're
Speaker 7: seeing there because if you can do that, then it
Speaker 7: should open up a little bit more running game to
Speaker 7: also run inside the red zone. So you've got to
Speaker 7: be able to score in there. Don't leave it up
Speaker 7: to your field goal.
Speaker 8: This team, if you believe in analytics, plays at a
Speaker 8: very fast paced they're the they're the fastest playing team
Speaker 8: in the league when it comes to getting up running
Speaker 8: plays and you know and the number that they do.
Speaker 8: So if they continue to do that, if you see
Speaker 8: that and you see it in practice, they try to
Speaker 8: play at a little bit quicker pace and so to me, Yeah,
Speaker 8: if you were, if you were struggling, you wouldn't be
Speaker 8: able to You would bog down. You would say, oh,
Speaker 8: we're you know, run that again, run that, you know, coach,
Speaker 8: can I see that again? You know that you don't
Speaker 8: always hear that in practice, and that's something that kind.
Speaker 2: Of leads you to believe that.
Speaker 8: You know, there McCarthy might be one of these guys
Speaker 8: that believes, well, if there's a bust, will coach.
Speaker 2: It in the meeting room.
Speaker 8: We're not going to stop practice to coach something up,
Speaker 8: you know.
Speaker 2: And I and I don't hear that quite a bit.
Speaker 7: Very important of Jalen Tolvert cavan terping those four or
Speaker 7: five receivers, maybe even six, because when you do play
Speaker 7: at that pace, you're throwing the ball around, you throw
Speaker 7: it deep, it's incomplete or whatever you're moving. You need
Speaker 7: to get those other receivers in there a lot.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that happened the other day, and you know the
Speaker 8: touchdown that that they were that was it thinking about.
Speaker 8: They got the touchdown Tolbert. Tolbert got the touchdown right
Speaker 8: before the half against Jacksonville. He got the push off
Speaker 8: on the outside. Had to come back that was a
Speaker 8: series where they were playing hurry up two minute ball,
Speaker 8: and you know, and those receivers were having to get downfield,
Speaker 8: having to run routes, a lot of long places, oh penalty,
Speaker 8: come back, run it again, you know that kind of thing,
Speaker 8: and they were able to finish the drive like Nick
Speaker 8: talked about, you know, with the with the touchdown to Tolbert.
Speaker 8: So those receivers are having to do a lot of
Speaker 8: this like run, come back, run, come back, run, come back,
Speaker 8: that kind of thing. And I think that when you know,
Speaker 8: when you get tired, it's easy to kind of fall apart,
Speaker 8: and we haven't really seen that from this crew.
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Speaker 6: Thanks Chris. Okay.
Speaker 5: So I wanted to hit another point that was talked
Speaker 5: about yesterday in the press conference. It was the whole
Speaker 5: safety linebacker hybrid role that is being talked about on defense.
Speaker 5: A guy that specifically was mentioned was Jaren Curse and
Speaker 5: his ability, his versatility of being able to play different positions.
Speaker 6: On the field.
Speaker 5: So wanted to see kind of your vision how you
Speaker 5: think this is going to translate once the season gets started,
Speaker 5: or what this defense might look like for the Cowboys.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean, Jaron Curse is the guy that is
Speaker 7: very similar to to overshown. I think they drafted him
Speaker 7: with the idea of, you know, who knows how long
Speaker 7: Curse will be or is on a one year deal
Speaker 7: of his contract, but that kind of hybrid player is
Speaker 7: what they're looking for. And you know, when they're all
Speaker 7: healthy and Donovan Wilson comes back, Malik Hooker and then
Speaker 7: you have Curse. I think they're going to be in
Speaker 7: good shape there, But I'm Overshown was just another tool
Speaker 7: in the toolbox that they were excited to have for
Speaker 7: this year. I think Marquise Bell maybe be able to
Speaker 7: do some stuff, maybe Jabril Cox, but but I don't
Speaker 7: think it's going to be at the same level though.
Speaker 8: Yeah, the thing that was it's I feel terrible for
Speaker 8: the coaching staff on this one, because I they had
Speaker 8: an idea of what they needed to do with Overshown.
Speaker 8: I think that they when they looked at him at
Speaker 8: Texas and the evaluation and the scouts and Sam Guarza
Speaker 8: and Chris Hall and these guys were talking about the player.
Speaker 8: I think Dan Quinn and the coaches had an idea
Speaker 8: and then all of a sudden they said, let's see
Speaker 8: if we can do this. They throw them in the
Speaker 8: deep end of the pool. At the OTA's mini camps,
Speaker 8: he's calling the defenses, He's all of a sudden, he's
Speaker 8: green dot on the helmet. There's like they're thinking, Okay,
Speaker 8: let's keep loading the wagon on this kid and see
Speaker 8: if he just.
Speaker 2: Short circuits and he never did.
Speaker 8: Then all of a sudden you're watching him play and
Speaker 8: the first six plays of the game he's made three tackles.
Speaker 8: Now you're sitting there going, ah, we've got something here.
Speaker 8: We figured this out, and that's what's unfortunate. I think
Speaker 8: there were some packages that they were going to do.
Speaker 8: We've seen them line up lighton vander Esh as an
Speaker 8: edge and rush him with Micah. You know, how do
Speaker 8: you get around that taking him out of a key position,
Speaker 8: vander Esh and putting him up on the line. Well,
Speaker 8: wait a minute, you got to have Clark, you got
Speaker 8: to have Overshown, you got to have I hope they
Speaker 8: didn't lose some packages along the way because they lost
Speaker 8: Overshown and it might be like, we don't have anybody
Speaker 8: else now, you know the thoughts about Marquis Bell similar
Speaker 8: type of body style. If you follow the games the
Speaker 8: last couple of weeks, he's always on the top of
Speaker 8: the list of the tackle sheet. Guy gets double digit
Speaker 8: tackles playing in the game.
Speaker 2: So maybe you're.
Speaker 8: Thinking like, well, let's put this kid in there and
Speaker 8: let's see if he could play that role. So, yeah,
Speaker 8: curse is going to be the primary what they call
Speaker 8: a sub a nickel dime linebacker. He's down, but you
Speaker 8: also could take Bell and put him down there too,
Speaker 8: if you had to. Maybe you develop him in that role.
Speaker 8: It's probably not gonna be as cute and pretty as
Speaker 8: what overshown because of all the things he could do,
Speaker 8: but maybe you can make it. It still might allow you
Speaker 8: to the flexibility to move other guys where you might
Speaker 8: want to. And that dan Quinn, that when you talk
Speaker 8: about putting Layton vander USh on the edge, that is
Speaker 8: a defense that you show one time in a game,
Speaker 8: like it's like it's a third down late in the
Speaker 8: game and it's like, we got to get off the field. Here,
Speaker 8: throw that one at him. They haven't seen vander Rush
Speaker 8: as a rush as an edge all game and boom
Speaker 8: and then you get a you know, you get a stop,
Speaker 8: you get off the field. There's your one time that
Speaker 8: it actually works. So yeah, those that's the great thing
Speaker 8: about these defensive coaches. They are very creative with their personnel.
Speaker 8: Whoever you give them, they will find ways to plug
Speaker 8: them in in certain spots.
Speaker 7: And with Micah on the field, that other guys have
Speaker 7: to be that way. Yeah, because he's moving, and if
Speaker 7: he moves, then that means you have to move. That
Speaker 7: means Daurn's has to flip sides or like you said,
Speaker 7: vandersh has to rush. Another thing about the Marquis Bell
Speaker 7: and whoever the safety linebacker is is that you got
Speaker 7: to remember that it's not just about having the strength
Speaker 7: to also play linebacker. It's really more of the awareness
Speaker 7: to like understand where things are going to be. And
Speaker 7: that's one thing I've liked that at Marquis Bell. He's
Speaker 7: made some plays behind the line of scrimmage where he
Speaker 7: just kind of snuffed it out. And that's what I
Speaker 7: think Overshown is good at, and that's something that I
Speaker 7: think Bell can also be good at.
Speaker 8: It helps, though, when you have if you can get
Speaker 8: those linemen in front to hold blocks too, And that's
Speaker 8: the deals with you know, with Hankins and what we've
Speaker 8: seen with Bohanna. I think, by the way, that's an
Speaker 8: interesting battle to keep an eye on what's going on.
Speaker 8: How many defensive tackles these one techniques they might keep.
Speaker 8: You know, this is an important game for Gallimore, Bohanna
Speaker 8: guys like that going forward. But the guys like Bell
Speaker 8: and these linebackers.
Speaker 2: Their ability to.
Speaker 8: Get to the ball A lot will have to do
Speaker 8: with what's going on at these defensive tackle spots.
Speaker 5: Well, let's go ahead and transition to my next question,
Speaker 5: which is exactly that this is the last game that
Speaker 5: they're playing in the preseason. We know that roster cuts
Speaker 5: are happening on Tuesday. So give me a name that
Speaker 5: where this is.
Speaker 6: A make or break.
Speaker 5: This is their last chance where they could it could
Speaker 5: really go either way, either they make it or they
Speaker 5: just get cut.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna throw a name in here from the text
Speaker 7: line TJ from Baltimore. He says, who needs to have
Speaker 7: a bounce back week? This on Saturday's game, So kind
Speaker 7: of along those lines of somebody that needs to play well.
Speaker 8: I think there's I mentioned those defensive tackles because I
Speaker 8: don't know if they're going to be able to keep
Speaker 8: all of them with the way the roster, you know,
Speaker 8: and I don't know if it's but there's a competition
Speaker 8: right now. I mean, Hankins and moles he are the guys, right.
Speaker 8: Can Bohm or Neville Gallimore make them keep a just
Speaker 8: a true one technique there?
Speaker 2: You know? Can I'm like another you know, another another one.
Speaker 8: And that's where I think that Bohannah has played and
Speaker 8: this is where I kind of look at with Mazzi.
Speaker 8: It's taken Bohanna a couple of years to kind of
Speaker 8: figure things out. I think Mazzi's in that group right
Speaker 8: now where he's kind of like caught between playing against
Speaker 8: Northwestern in a Big ten game and playing against the
Speaker 8: Vegas Raiders this weekend. Technique wise, I think he's somewhere
Speaker 8: in between there trying to kind of figure all that out,
Speaker 8: and I think it's slowing him up a little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we need to get to the Ohio s tea game.
Speaker 8: But I think that I think Quentin Bohanna and I'll
Speaker 8: give you, I'll give you an offensive guy too. And
Speaker 8: I really think Simmi Fajoco is in that position too,
Speaker 8: where that he has got to try and find a
Speaker 8: way to put himself into that wide receiver conversation.
Speaker 2: You know, it might already be too late. I mean
Speaker 2: him Brooks.
Speaker 8: You know, Brooks has kind of had a little bit
Speaker 8: of some really good in practice, not so good in
Speaker 8: a game, kind of found his way back. Do you
Speaker 8: keep five or six wide receivers? Who's the sixth wide
Speaker 8: receiver here. So I think those are the two really
Speaker 8: the two spots that that I'm looking at right now
Speaker 8: and thinking, if you just sit off the top of
Speaker 8: your head, who are guys that need to show up?
Speaker 2: You know?
Speaker 7: Will Greer is gonna Yeah, he played he played well
Speaker 7: at times. He's played well in the first two games.
Speaker 7: He's had some also some other moments where not so great.
Speaker 7: And I just wonder if they're going to have like
Speaker 7: you have to go short somewhere, you know, and tied in.
Speaker 7: I don't believe they will. I think they're gonna have
Speaker 7: four tight end with McEwan. So do they go six receivers?
Speaker 7: I mean, do you do you have four running backs?
Speaker 7: I mean some point you have to go short here.
Speaker 7: And I don't know if quarterbacks gonna be the spot
Speaker 7: or not. I know, I understand the new rule, but
Speaker 7: the new rule doesn't help you if you don't have
Speaker 7: three on the roster, right, So are you gonna put
Speaker 7: three on the roster? Are you gonna just try to
Speaker 7: go practice squad and elevate one. Yeah, you can only
Speaker 7: do that three times and then you gotta get another
Speaker 7: quarterback in here. So I don't know what they're gonna
Speaker 7: do with Will Greer.
Speaker 8: I think that Will Greer has had, as you mentioned,
Speaker 8: has had moments where you're like, all right, that's you know,
Speaker 8: there you go, and then the you know, unfortunately, there's
Speaker 8: been the time where you know, the interception just came
Speaker 8: at a terrible time the other day, Yeah, it just did.
Speaker 8: It's just you're driving, You're trying to go. You know,
Speaker 8: you get back in the game the way you need
Speaker 8: to and you know, give your team a little momentum
Speaker 8: and you know you and like I say, hey, Douce
Speaker 8: fun is trying his best to block. Okay, he takes
Speaker 8: on the rusher, he kind of knocks into the side.
Speaker 8: He gets knocked to the side. Now Greer's got to
Speaker 8: run and he's throwing the ball back to the inside
Speaker 8: and you're like, no, don't do that. And then you
Speaker 8: know there's a play where they're you know, they had
Speaker 8: a chance to get the third down and he doesn't
Speaker 8: run and he tries to throw the ball just you know,
Speaker 8: and you're like.
Speaker 2: Going, and you're going, You're going. This is a veteran guy.
Speaker 8: I know he hasn't played a lot of NFL games,
Speaker 8: but no, this isn't like this isn't the guy from
Speaker 8: you know, from Western Carolina that you just got, you know,
Speaker 8: from you know that hasn't played a lot of game.
Speaker 8: This guy has played a lot of games collegiately, and
Speaker 8: you know, he's spent on NFL rosters. He's he's practiced.
Speaker 8: He knows better than that. And that's where you you
Speaker 8: you struggle is has he shown you enough to say, yeah,
Speaker 8: we're going to keep a third quarterback and not have
Speaker 8: an extra an extra guy in the secondary, or an
Speaker 8: extra linebacker or one of these extra guys. I don't know.
Speaker 8: I don't I can't say that with any certainty that
Speaker 8: I would go that route right now.
Speaker 5: And at this point, I mean, if you let's say
Speaker 5: you cut him and then you signed some other quarterback,
Speaker 5: young guy coming in here, you're starting over from zero.
Speaker 6: I mean that's how it's always worked.
Speaker 5: But again it doesn't necessarily fully in my you have
Speaker 5: surprises at times. But let's say something crazy was to
Speaker 5: happen where we've seen it. Your first guy, second guy
Speaker 5: go down, and then you're in need of your third quarterback.
Speaker 8: If that, if that's the point, then we start the
Speaker 8: draft show. Yeah, yeah, exactly, another year of you just
Speaker 8: got being really unhappy.
Speaker 5: Yes, but that's not going to happen. That's definitely not
Speaker 5: going to happen. So who were your two guys aside
Speaker 5: from the quarterback question?
Speaker 7: Uh, that that need to play well, anybody on the
Speaker 7: offensive line that's going to get in the game. And
Speaker 7: I don't know if it's just to make the team,
Speaker 7: it's also going to be making decisions on who do
Speaker 7: they make active? You know, I mean, what what happens
Speaker 7: with Ball and farnioc and and well let's go Hoffman
Speaker 7: awesome Richards. You know that it's there's a lot to
Speaker 7: be There's a lot of questions to answer. And I
Speaker 7: really feel like there's four players, four to five players
Speaker 7: that are on other teams right now that are going
Speaker 7: to be on this team.
Speaker 8: Yeah, there's them, not for Yeah, I think that the
Speaker 8: first cut there's gonna be something that roster manipulation where
Speaker 8: a guy like maybe Nashean Wright is on the active
Speaker 8: roster for one day and then the next day he's cut.
Speaker 2: Or put on I R kind of a thing.
Speaker 8: I just think there's this team is not going to
Speaker 8: look like by by like maybe Thursday Friday, it's probably
Speaker 8: gonna look like a completely different team than what they
Speaker 8: reduced the roster to on Tuesday. So yeah, there's there's
Speaker 8: always the possibility of claims. I think I made the
Speaker 8: point that I felt like that Will and these guys
Speaker 8: might be working on a trade, you know, if you
Speaker 8: were to trade. I mean, I know I asked the
Speaker 8: question of my guys at one o five to three,
Speaker 8: do you go out and try and trade for an
Speaker 8: offensive tackle or you try and trade for a guard
Speaker 8: center combination guy? And you know, I've had people, I know,
Speaker 8: I've had people say no, you trade for the tackle,
Speaker 8: and others have said, no, you go for the center
Speaker 8: guard guy. Because again it's the you know, how what's
Speaker 8: your trust factor with UH, you know, with UH, with UH,
Speaker 8: with the with all these guys, with a lot of them,
Speaker 8: all these guys you know well and be oddish and
Speaker 8: stuff like that, health, you know and stuff. So where's
Speaker 8: your you know, what's the combination? And it always goes.
Speaker 6: Like Martin and Tyler Smith. I think they're pretty solid, Yeah.
Speaker 8: But it always goes back to and we always and
Speaker 8: you don't even want to talk about it was the
Speaker 8: whole thing with Tyron Smith.
Speaker 2: You don't even want to, you know.
Speaker 8: But you're gonna wake up in week five and it's
Speaker 8: going to be you know, something happened here we go,
Speaker 8: you know, and now you're shuffling around.
Speaker 7: Can I ask this deathline question, Ryan Longview? He says,
Speaker 7: can Awesome Richards hold up at swing tackle because what
Speaker 7: you just said with Tyron's situation, Yeah, I would have
Speaker 7: probably gone with a little bit more depth at that position,
Speaker 7: like a guy that probably should be starting. But you know,
Speaker 7: we're having them as a backup right now and they
Speaker 7: really haven't done that. It looks like it's going to
Speaker 7: be Richard's well Let's Go has been banged up.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but is that any point?
Speaker 5: Is the consideration of moving Tyler Smith back out out
Speaker 5: of the question, like if something was to happen, would
Speaker 5: they just slide him?
Speaker 8: Then that's what you need to You need to know
Speaker 8: who your guard get you. Yeah, you feel better about
Speaker 8: your guard situation. I would I would say this, I
Speaker 8: would keep It's gonna sound crazy, I'd keep Tyler Smith
Speaker 8: and go with Awesome Richards.
Speaker 2: I just feel like I feel like that Awesome Richards.
Speaker 8: Has shown me that he is better than Well Let's
Speaker 8: Go and anybody else that's uh that's played.
Speaker 2: You know outside there, I mean you.
Speaker 8: It, you know, you know Taylor Prelo and you know,
Speaker 8: I mean, there're those guys to me are like practice
Speaker 8: squad guys. Now, how you feel about TJ.
Speaker 2: Bass?
Speaker 8: See, that's the thing that's kind of the wild card
Speaker 8: here that if you feel good enough about TJ Bass
Speaker 8: filming a guard, then maybe that you move. So the
Speaker 8: determination is who do you feel better about, Awesome Richards
Speaker 8: or TJ Bass. That's gonna make your decision on Tyler Smith?
Speaker 8: On Tyler Smith.
Speaker 7: Yeah, and give credit to Tyler Smith for being good
Speaker 7: enough that that is the question. Yeah, it's the backup question.
Speaker 7: It's not which one is Tyler Smith better at? He's
Speaker 7: he can do either one right. That I think should
Speaker 7: not be overlooked that this guy is so good that
Speaker 7: you're not worried about how he does, You're worried about
Speaker 7: who would be replacing him the best. That's pretty valuable
Speaker 7: for a second year guy.
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Speaker 5: Welcome back to the third segment of the break. I
Speaker 5: wanted to Before we get into all the texts that
Speaker 5: are coming in, I wanted to ask you, guys, how.
Speaker 6: About the kicker? And for this last game again.
Speaker 5: We thought several weeks ago that they might bring another
Speaker 5: kicker for competition after they cut Remember this, guys, mis
Speaker 5: Kane misk Yes, well with him.
Speaker 6: Now, are you guys?
Speaker 5: Is there something that you guys want to see more
Speaker 5: of in this last game?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 7: Field goals, I mean quit going for it on fourth
Speaker 7: and eight. Yeah, to try to do what to tie
Speaker 7: the game with?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 7: The only starter that's on the field is the kicker.
Speaker 7: He's the only one. I mean, yeah, you want to
Speaker 7: evaluate it, and I get it. Mike McCarthy's calling plays
Speaker 7: that he wants to do that, and they get all
Speaker 7: competitive and all that. But the only guy that is
Speaker 7: that is you expect to be a starter in the
Speaker 7: fourth quarter of these games, is your kicker. So why
Speaker 7: not try a forty two yard field goal or at
Speaker 7: some point, I mean, we're all worried about let's see
Speaker 7: what this guy does. Let's see what the kicker does,
Speaker 7: because that's the guy that's going to be out there
Speaker 7: for the Giants right now that I mean, that's the
Speaker 7: only one that you were expecting to be out there veteran.
Speaker 8: I've heard any positive things about is Mason Crosby.
Speaker 2: That's it. Other than that, it's been so you might.
Speaker 8: As well ride with this guy and see what you got.
Speaker 8: But Nick's right, you should have been kicking field goals
Speaker 8: the other day, just trying to figure it out, like
Speaker 8: let him you know, I mean, he had a miss.
Speaker 8: He had a miss of an extra point badly. Yeah,
Speaker 8: so you're kind of like going, huh okay, so give
Speaker 8: him some other confidence and let everybody, you know, let
Speaker 8: the team feel good about him, right, let the team fight.
Speaker 8: The team can feel good about him at practice. It's
Speaker 8: different when they're trying to block Seattle's for team rush,
Speaker 8: you know, and guys are trying to make the team
Speaker 8: and all that.
Speaker 7: So shoot down this idea that I've been thinking of.
Speaker 7: What about sign a veteran. Yeah, probably Gold Crosby. Whatever.
Speaker 7: If he doesn't if he can't kick off, right, fine.
Speaker 2: That's gold. Gold does not want to kick off.
Speaker 7: Okay, give me a guy on the practice squad. Aubrey
Speaker 7: could start it out.
Speaker 2: I could.
Speaker 7: There'll be other guys that you could sign on your
Speaker 7: practice squad. Elevate them on game day.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I had this because and you get three elevations.
Speaker 7: Right, and then then you got to find another kick
Speaker 7: Then you got to.
Speaker 2: Find another kickoff guy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there's seat there.
Speaker 2: See this is where it gets a little dicey. It
Speaker 2: gets well, yeah, it gets a little dicey.
Speaker 8: Because you start to play cold weather games and you
Speaker 8: start to play outdoors, and now do you want to
Speaker 8: kickoff guy that can't get it out of the end zone?
Speaker 8: You know you that, but you're not wrong. I mean
Speaker 8: I had somebody tweet at me and said the same thing.
Speaker 8: You know it just okay, Well, then you know, bring
Speaker 8: in Robbie Golden, let him not field goals home all
Speaker 8: day from thirty eight, forty two and forty three yards
Speaker 8: and then get a practice squad kicker and just do
Speaker 8: it for three.
Speaker 2: Games at a time.
Speaker 8: But you do, you get to a point in time
Speaker 8: where you're you're kind of like, okay, do we do
Speaker 8: we get the right guy here at the end? I mean,
Speaker 8: you're gonna be playing in a playoff game with maybe
Speaker 8: with a guy that can't kick off as well, and
Speaker 8: that's going to affect the way you play. That would
Speaker 8: be the only way that the only thing that would
Speaker 8: kind of deter me from thinking about doing that.
Speaker 2: That's it's not a bad idea.
Speaker 7: I'm not as worried of the kickoffs though. I'm really not,
Speaker 7: because for every big kickoff return that you give up,
Speaker 7: I mean, if you kick it off through the ins
Speaker 7: and they start at the twenty five, what are the
Speaker 7: chances there's a better chance you're going to start inside
Speaker 7: the twenty five the way they call holding, blocking the
Speaker 7: backs and stuff like that, you have a chance to
Speaker 7: have a little bit more advantage than you would giving
Speaker 7: up a fifty.
Speaker 8: Well, if even if you get it near the goal line,
Speaker 8: don't they have the option out they can fair catch
Speaker 8: the thing and get the ball to twenty five.
Speaker 7: I'd pop it up. Yeah, let him fair catch. It's
Speaker 7: gonna be the same anyway, exactly. And Crosby and Gold,
Speaker 7: what they both have in common is they both have
Speaker 7: sent you home in the playoffs with their field Gold kick.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, last few years. Yeah, that's the
Speaker 2: whole thing. I mean.
Speaker 8: The more that I dug in on Robbie Gold, it
Speaker 8: was it was he really is kind of a specialist.
Speaker 8: Now he doesn't want to kick field goals over fifty
Speaker 8: yards he doesn't want to, you know, he doesn't want
Speaker 8: to kick off.
Speaker 2: He doesn't.
Speaker 8: You know, there's and that puts you on. That puts
Speaker 8: you on some fringe offense right there.
Speaker 6: I mean, you don't have that many.
Speaker 8: Watch, but watch. Somebody will sign that guy. Somebody will
Speaker 8: sign that guy just because he is in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: He's money.
Speaker 7: He was to the team Cowboys, could not kick anything
Speaker 7: and he couldn't miss. Yeah, I mean yeah, I would
Speaker 7: take that.
Speaker 5: All right, nick Uh, start warming up for your show.
Speaker 7: Give us some I'm not giving you the best ones.
Speaker 7: And I'm just kidding now the one that just came
Speaker 7: in here, John from New York City. Do you think
Speaker 7: that Dak's interception problem last year was similar to when
Speaker 7: uh Zeke Wow?
Speaker 2: What is that?
Speaker 7: Zeke had a one year fumble problem? Both trying to
Speaker 7: do too much, Zeke not having Dak this year, Dak
Speaker 7: having no receivers.
Speaker 8: I think the thing the only thing I would worry
Speaker 8: about Dak's interceptions are the interceptions where he doesn't see
Speaker 8: the defender. That's the ones, because the other ones tend
Speaker 8: to be ones that are either tipped or or maybe
Speaker 8: maybe the receiver's fault, you know, maybe maybe they don't
Speaker 8: run the right route, maybe they don't finish the route,
Speaker 8: maybe they don't go defend the ball. So you know,
Speaker 8: those are the ones. I could live with those because
Speaker 8: I know that it's not all on Dak. You know
Speaker 8: that maybe it's but he gets it gets charged for him.
Speaker 8: It's the ones where he doesn't see Leyton Vanders should
Speaker 8: practice on the goal line and throws the ball right
Speaker 8: to him, or he throws the ball right to that.
Speaker 8: I can't remember the Commander's linebacker that he did, you know,
Speaker 8: several years ago and they were trying to protect a lead.
Speaker 2: He threw it right to the.
Speaker 8: Went to North Carolina Colbert Colbert or something like that.
Speaker 8: He's does I mean when he throws the ball at
Speaker 8: had San Francisco, when he throws the ball and he
Speaker 8: doesn't see the defender, those are those are the interceptions
Speaker 8: you should really worry.
Speaker 5: About, all right, and at practice. I mean, it has
Speaker 5: happened at practice. We've seen it, and people want to
Speaker 5: take those videos on the media uploads and just start killing.
Speaker 5: So here we go again, Dak interceptions. Another year, change quarterbacks,
Speaker 5: blah blah blah. But I feel like based on what
Speaker 5: we've seen so far. I do feel that his game
Speaker 5: has cleaned up a little bit, just because, like we
Speaker 5: were talking about earlier, everyone seems to be more on
Speaker 5: the same page. Everyone seems to be a little bit
Speaker 5: more in sync and know exactly what's going on. And
Speaker 5: you're right, sometimes he won't notice the defender and someone
Speaker 5: just pops off out of nowhere and it catches the
Speaker 5: ball and it happens. But all in all, I don't
Speaker 5: think that pulls me away from the confidence that I
Speaker 5: have in Dak and wanting him to maybe throw less, No,
Speaker 5: keep throwing the way. I mean, obviously keep improving, but
Speaker 5: keep throwing it. And I think some of those long
Speaker 5: passes down the field, his passes have looked really really
Speaker 5: good at times.
Speaker 7: All Right, I might want to knock on wood here,
Speaker 7: But if Pollard were to miss a game, how do
Speaker 7: you think the carries should be split? This is from
Speaker 7: Nick and Long Island.
Speaker 2: Got a New York contingency listening yesterday.
Speaker 8: I think I think what will happen is they will
Speaker 8: figure out I think they're going to carry all four
Speaker 8: backs myself, and I know.
Speaker 7: I say all for Malik.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think I think Malik will be part of
Speaker 8: the I think now, I don't know. I mean I
Speaker 8: say that I think he's gonna be part And then
Speaker 8: I've talked to people like a Todd Archer and guys
Speaker 8: like that, we kind of walk through the roster. He
Speaker 8: thinks that maybe they'll try and get Malik Davis due
Speaker 8: to the practice squad. I don't know where you guys
Speaker 8: think about. Yeah, but that situation.
Speaker 7: But to disappointing this year for Malik, I thought he
Speaker 7: would take a more of a leap.
Speaker 13: Well, there's there's some questions whoever the third whoever that
Speaker 13: third running back is, is going to have to be
Speaker 13: the special teams guy, because I don't think duce Faun
Speaker 13: is going to play a lot of special teams for you.
Speaker 2: I just don't so to me whoever that guy is.
Speaker 8: And and you know, maybe maybe this is what Nick
Speaker 8: was talking about earlier, a bar where you're gonna have
Speaker 8: to go short somewhere.
Speaker 2: And we'll see with Malik days. But Rico dow.
Speaker 8: Jones, I'm done to me. Ronald Jones and a Dooga
Speaker 8: were guys that were bridge players to kind of in
Speaker 8: case something was not working out.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 8: They don't play a doga at guard. They played a
Speaker 8: bit tackled and he's looked terrible at.
Speaker 7: I'd put him at guard.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought he's a guard.
Speaker 7: Yeah, all along got a guard body.
Speaker 2: Maybe there, maybe they're maybe that's what they're gonna do.
Speaker 7: Here's the thing about Ronald Jones. You don't have to
Speaker 7: do anything with him. There's there's twenty seven lists that
Speaker 7: you can put a player on here and cut down
Speaker 7: day next week, and one of them is a suspension list.
Speaker 7: So that's where he goes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he goes there and then for what two weeks? Weeks?
Speaker 7: Yeah, so you don't really have to do anything. Now
Speaker 7: when you come back, then you have to make it.
Speaker 7: Who knows what it looks like?
Speaker 2: What if?
Speaker 7: What if there is an injury that running back and
Speaker 7: you're like, okay, here's a guy that knows the system.
Speaker 7: He's been with us.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 7: I would play him here in the preseason. Honestly, I'd
Speaker 7: play him this week.
Speaker 6: Andrew Wise, he supposed to be ready.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he practiced for you this week. Right, I think it.
Speaker 7: Gets hurt for two weeks. I mean he's going to
Speaker 7: be suspended anyways.
Speaker 6: Right, How did he do?
Speaker 12: How was it?
Speaker 6: I didn't really notice him. I think there was that much.
Speaker 8: I was an OX Star one of my last two
Speaker 8: days and he was actually showed up where I was like,
Speaker 8: I was like, oh okay, Ron I, Oh okay, looks that's
Speaker 8: what he looks physically, you know. He was running the
Speaker 8: ball on the outside and I was like, Okay, that
Speaker 8: doesn't look bad.
Speaker 2: But I think that he's lost too much time.
Speaker 8: I think I think that Douce Faun and Rico and
Speaker 8: the thing about is with you know, Malik Davis. We
Speaker 8: talked about this, you know, last week when Malik Davis
Speaker 8: was in the game on third down, they took him
Speaker 8: out and they put Rico dabdele in as a past protector,
Speaker 8: you know, and then that's that kind of maybe you
Speaker 8: know that worries you a little bit right there, Yeah,
Speaker 8: that they don't think he's the complete back.
Speaker 5: It'll be interesting. I'm ready to see I'm so freaking ready.
Speaker 5: I am so ready for a week one. There's so
Speaker 5: much I want. I just want to know if what
Speaker 5: I'm seeing is real or just practice. That's training camp,
Speaker 5: you know, that's what happens at training camp. But I'm
Speaker 5: just so excited about so many of these guys, and
Speaker 5: I'm ready to see it.
Speaker 6: All come to you.
Speaker 7: I'm just ready for Micah Parksons to be able to
Speaker 7: go all the way through the play yea, and not
Speaker 7: stop at the quarterback when he's back there going okay,
Speaker 7: this was fun, like just wreck havoc like you like
Speaker 7: we're expecting him to.
Speaker 6: Well, it will happen. We have what two weeks, two
Speaker 6: weeks till the start of the season.
Speaker 5: Tomorrow the game is at seven pm against the Raiders,
Speaker 5: and that's all the time we have for today. Thank
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