WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Battles to Watch 0:00:02.000 --> 0:00:04.440 Following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and 0:00:04.480 --> 0:00:05.920 the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:08.320 --> 0:00:15.680 Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 0:00:15.960 --> 0:00:16.280 Yes? 0:00:16.520 --> 0:00:18.120 Are you ready for a break? 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:20.880 Absolutely ready for a break? 0:00:21.160 --> 0:00:23.279 Yeah, and so much for that. 0:00:23.440 --> 0:00:27.680 It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:28.960 --> 0:00:33.880 right with Nick Eatman, Brian Broddus, and bar Garcia and 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:34.919 Derek Eagleton. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:41.400 Hey, guys, welcome back to another episode of The Break 0:00:41.440 --> 0:00:46.839 here at s WBC Studios. I was like, I was 0:00:46.880 --> 0:00:48.599 about to say something else I'm not used to doing 0:00:48.600 --> 0:00:51.279 in the opening, Derek is clearly not here. I am 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.040 joined by Brian Brodus and Nick Eatman. 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:57.160 What's up? They always come back, don't they. 0:00:57.280 --> 0:00:58.880 Yeah, it's on your shoe. 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.760 Can't get rid of them, know I would get rid 0:01:01.800 --> 0:01:02.640 of the gum on the shoe. 0:01:02.760 --> 0:01:04.080 Yeah, gotta get rid of that. 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:06.560 Change the shoe, change that shoe. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:08.679 Well, thank you so much for joining us today. 0:01:08.800 --> 0:01:11.960 You guys know Derek and Patrick are not here today, 0:01:12.040 --> 0:01:15.720 so we're gonna do the whole show as we get 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:20.760 ready for tomorrow's final preseason game, which the Gobboys will 0:01:20.760 --> 0:01:24.399 be going up against the Raiders at AT and T Stadium. 0:01:24.840 --> 0:01:26.240 So I wanted to start. 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:29.640 Off the show with the news that have been happening 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:34.559 since our last show. We learn about Sam Williams's arrest 0:01:34.640 --> 0:01:37.360 and we haven't discussed this on the show just yet. 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.720 He was arrested last weekend for possession of a control 0:01:40.840 --> 0:01:46.520 substance and unlawful caring of a weapon. The team since 0:01:46.560 --> 0:01:50.200 then has come out and spoke about it, Jerry Jones, 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:55.680 Mike McCarthy and basically saying that yes, they've addressed the issue, 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:59.840 they don't expect any changes. He's expected to play this weekend, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:04.960 but wanted to get your thoughts on your opinion of 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:08.600 him as a player, what he's doing outside of the field, 0:02:08.800 --> 0:02:12.200 how that is affecting him on the field and around 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:15.760 the locker room, and just whatever thoughts you have. 0:02:16.080 --> 0:02:18.560 Yeah, there were some questions about Sam Williams when he 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.160 was before he was drafted at Mississippi. There were teams 0:02:22.200 --> 0:02:24.639 that were going in there and digging in on and 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.800 much like what you do the normal, you know, trying 0:02:27.840 --> 0:02:31.280 to get the background, talking to coaches, talking to equipment men, 0:02:32.040 --> 0:02:34.720 you know, trainers, whoever you have to do. And there's 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.520 some people that did have questions. Were they you know, 0:02:37.560 --> 0:02:41.040 were they things that were terminal. Some teams felt like 0:02:41.080 --> 0:02:43.680 that maybe it wouldn't be worth the trouble. The Cowboys 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:46.600 had done their due diligence on the player, so they 0:02:46.639 --> 0:02:50.000 had an idea of potentially what they're getting into. Unfortunately 0:02:50.040 --> 0:02:52.320 for Sam, he's early in his career. 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:53.400 He's found a way. 0:02:53.240 --> 0:02:56.560 To put himself in some bad situations, usually when it's 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:59.880 him in a car, whether it's him dealing with us 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:03.160 beating or what we've just came up with here. But 0:03:03.600 --> 0:03:06.160 it just kind of shows you, though, that you can 0:03:06.240 --> 0:03:09.200 control things to a point when you have your players 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:13.800 at the facility. Your biggest worry as a front office 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.760 member is when these players leave the building and go 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:19.600 do other things, and you know, you could do all 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:21.600 you can to say, Okay, we feel like we have 0:03:21.720 --> 0:03:25.160 a handle on what Sam is as a person and 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.000 that he'll be able to take care of things. But 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.120 Sam's proven, at least the last couple of years, there's 0:03:30.160 --> 0:03:32.760 been some difficulty on the way. But we also remember 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:37.120 the first three years of Ezekiel Elliott and a lot 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.040 of us thought, man, he's not going to make it 0:03:39.040 --> 0:03:42.560 to the second contract, so here we go, but you know, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.160 and things then turned around. So hopefully those things will 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.120 work in Sam Williams favor, that maybe he won't put 0:03:48.160 --> 0:03:51.040 himself in these situations that he has been the last 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:51.920 couple of times out. 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:54.560 Yeah, you just don't want it to be always. You 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:56.640 don't want to be the guy that has always has something, 0:03:56.760 --> 0:03:59.280 you know, and minor, major, whatever it is. And I 0:03:59.320 --> 0:04:01.600 don't think we're hitting the major points. Yeah, but when 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.200 you get a bunch of minor things, then it'd always 0:04:05.240 --> 0:04:07.280 becomes something. And kind of like you said that, when 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:10.080 they leave the facility, what happens, what happens. 0:04:10.160 --> 0:04:10.880 And you know, I. 0:04:11.120 --> 0:04:15.560 Think that he's a fun player to watch. I said 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:17.559 this on on one O five to three this morning 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.240 when we were talking to the guys. I thought McCarthy's 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:24.400 quote about he needs to slow down, I don't he's 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:26.640 not just talking about driving the car. He's talking about 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.679 just living his life, living life and slowing down, which 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:35.120 sounds very easy for any player to do. Just slow down. 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:37.880 Your job is to speed up. Your job is to 0:04:38.160 --> 0:04:41.720 is to wreck havoc every single time that the ball 0:04:41.800 --> 0:04:44.440 is snapped. And I do think it's a tough balance 0:04:44.440 --> 0:04:47.400 for young guys to to. They're living their life a 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:49.640 certain way, they play a football and they got to 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.760 slow down. I wonder how NASCAR drivers drive around the street. Really, 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:55.280 it's what I wonder, you know what I mean, like 0:04:55.279 --> 0:04:57.720 like that's their job to do that. But yet when 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:00.800 real life hits you gotta you got to calm down. 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:03.240 That's just the balance that I think all young players have. 0:05:03.200 --> 0:05:05.039 To figure It also shows you what they think of 0:05:05.080 --> 0:05:07.440 Sam though as a player. Usually if you start to 0:05:07.560 --> 0:05:11.080 add things up and you're getting in trouble a lot, 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:13.719 they find a way to move on from you, you know, 0:05:13.760 --> 0:05:17.080 And that's I hate to admit that, but that's the truth, 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:19.600 you know. I mean, the players are treated. You could 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:22.320 go back to the history of Jimmy Johnson here or 0:05:22.360 --> 0:05:25.800 any coach. Hey, you treat your star players differently than 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:27.600 you do maybe some of the guys in the. 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:30.159 Bottom of the roster. That's just that's just the way 0:05:30.200 --> 0:05:30.560 it is. 0:05:30.600 --> 0:05:35.560 So But to Nick's point, Mike's right about the you know, 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:38.440 slow down, slow down in life. I mean, don't you 0:05:38.480 --> 0:05:41.560 don't have to live it the way you're living it. 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.200 And hopefully he'll learn. I mean, it's it's it's tough. 0:05:45.360 --> 0:05:47.719 It's a tough it's a tough balance. So you know 0:05:47.800 --> 0:05:50.960 you're not in Oxford, Mississippi anymore. You can't get out 0:05:50.960 --> 0:05:53.320 of the things that you probably once got out of 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.800 and now you know you're you're That spotlight is clearly 0:05:56.839 --> 0:05:59.719 on you, and you make national news when you pull 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:00.760 stunts like this. 0:06:01.400 --> 0:06:04.560 The good thing is he's a very likable guy. 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:08.680 You really like the guy interview. He doesn't you when 0:06:08.720 --> 0:06:12.040 you talk to him. He doesn't mean any harm or 0:06:12.080 --> 0:06:16.120 anything bad. And the Cowboys have shown their support. I 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:19.280 think Mike McCarthy mentioned, or I can't remember if it 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.360 was him or Jerry Jones, the word maturity. I can 0:06:22.440 --> 0:06:28.960 say maturity, maturity. He needs to mature and that you 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:33.640 presented the Ezekiel example, which is a great example. But 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:37.160 I think he's gonna find the right way to do 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:41.400 things and and learn from it and hopefully keep improving 0:06:41.600 --> 0:06:45.040 because everything we've seen on the field so far we love. 0:06:45.760 --> 0:06:50.360 Obviously slowing down in certain areas where he's making those mistakes. Uh, 0:06:50.640 --> 0:06:51.360 that needs to happen. 0:06:51.480 --> 0:06:52.600 Well, that's when I was. 0:06:52.680 --> 0:06:55.320 I was with you guys when Ezekiel it was here, 0:06:55.560 --> 0:06:58.720 and uh, you know the early part, and I remember 0:06:58.880 --> 0:07:02.200 just having meetings like we were always on alert. You know, 0:07:02.279 --> 0:07:06.000 there was always something that Nick was always saying, Hey, well, 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:08.520 somebody bring their iPad. You know, we're going to lunch. 0:07:08.600 --> 0:07:10.640 There might be something happening that we need to work 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.000 on here. And you know, there was always something that 0:07:13.040 --> 0:07:15.760 we were dealing with. And then that part went away, 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:19.560 and good for Zeke and hopefully it will for Sam. 0:07:19.360 --> 0:07:19.560 You know. 0:07:19.880 --> 0:07:22.800 But one of the things that helped it go away 0:07:22.880 --> 0:07:27.120 for Zeke was getting suspended six games. And so like 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.440 you said about about Sam Williams, it saysn't Mississippi anymore 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:33.720 where maybe things were and this is not just one school. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.720 It's happened to a lot of places where star players. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.480 Whatever happens that I'm not saying it gets covered up, 0:07:39.480 --> 0:07:41.600 but it gets taken caddled, it gets taken care of 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.600 their caddle. And so far with Sam Williams, a couple 0:07:45.600 --> 0:07:47.400 of things happened and maybe it doesn't affect him on 0:07:47.440 --> 0:07:50.120 the field, but it's gonna have to affect you on 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.560 the field, I think for them to maybe wake up. 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:55.720 Hopefully it doesn't, but that could be a situation. 0:07:55.760 --> 0:07:59.080 What we've learned working for the Dallas Cowboys is that 0:07:59.280 --> 0:08:03.320 you do not want to put your fate in the 0:08:03.400 --> 0:08:06.080 hands of those folks in New York City, you know, 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:08.720 with the NFL office, you don't want to do that 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.080 because ultimately it like it's, well, this is this many 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:13.880 game suspension? 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:16.000 What what? No? 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:16.080 No? 0:08:16.600 --> 0:08:17.000 What about? 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:17.520 No? 0:08:17.680 --> 0:08:19.960 This guy was far worse. That guy was far worse. 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:20.600 What are we doing? 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.320 So yeah, you just don't want them to step in 0:08:25.920 --> 0:08:28.760 on discipline, like Nick says, but it'll get your attention 0:08:28.840 --> 0:08:32.559 when they do financially, and you know, maybe I could 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:34.559 say the number of games you might miss. 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:37.719 All right, Well, let's switch gears a little bit. 0:08:37.840 --> 0:08:41.120 Yesterday Dak got a time, the chance to talk to 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:44.680 the media, and I wanted you guys to comment on 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:45.680 something that he said. 0:08:45.720 --> 0:08:47.880 He was talking about how great. 0:08:47.640 --> 0:08:51.600 He feels about where they are this year and talking 0:08:51.679 --> 0:08:54.480 about how much different it is than last year at 0:08:54.480 --> 0:08:58.160 this point, as far as the installation and everything that 0:08:58.160 --> 0:08:58.800 they're doing. 0:09:00.120 --> 0:09:03.439 Do you guys believe that I'm. 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:06.200 Not saying like but you know, because sometimes we hear 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:09.160 from players, Oh, I feel great obviously when speaking mainly 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:12.679 about injuries and things like that, but in general, you 0:09:12.760 --> 0:09:17.559 hear those comments from guys like them. But as far 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.200 as him talking about the installation, you know, all the 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:23.080 changes that have occurred with my McCarthy now taking over 0:09:23.200 --> 0:09:26.960 for the play calling and all the new weapons that 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:30.080 they currently have on offense, Do you guys feel that 0:09:30.120 --> 0:09:33.000 you have seen that during the course of training camp. 0:09:33.880 --> 0:09:36.240 I think so. I mean I remember that a few 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.080 years ago you saw we say Dak friendly offense. I 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.800 think this is a Dak friendly offense. I think that 0:09:42.200 --> 0:09:45.960 you know, he most quarterbacks love to check it down. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:48.480 I mean, you know, it's an easier throw, but they're 0:09:48.559 --> 0:09:51.400 checking it down to receivers that are open, that are 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:53.880 schemed open, that are crossing over the middle. It's not 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:55.880 just throwing it to Schultz for eight yards and seeing 0:09:55.880 --> 0:09:57.720 that he can get a first down. It's clicks on 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.719 the move, it's gallop on the move, it's running backs 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:02.480 out of the backfield. I think it's a good offense 0:10:02.559 --> 0:10:04.680 for Dak that also is going to be able to 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.839 show how much speed that they have. So yeah, I 0:10:08.000 --> 0:10:09.920 can see where he's a little bit more comfortable with 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:12.480 it because it's an offense that he understands. But also 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:15.400 I think that they have some big play capabilities with 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:15.920 these guys. 0:10:16.040 --> 0:10:16.240 Yeah. 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:18.160 The only way we get to really see how this 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:21.480 offense is functioning is through practice because we haven't seen 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:24.120 it well as far as Dak and the ones go. 0:10:24.320 --> 0:10:26.160 The guys that are going to run the you know 0:10:26.200 --> 0:10:28.760 they're gonna be the primary starters, you know, and it's 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.120 gone up against one of the better defenses we feel 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.320 in the league, and you know, there hasn't been those times. 0:10:34.600 --> 0:10:37.760 I think early in camp there were some protection issues 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:40.240 that they were dealing with, and then things have kind 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:43.760 of worked their way clean in some of those areas, 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:46.240 maybe some of the questions they had. And now you 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:49.640 get Zach Martin back, you get more of Terrence Steele practicing. 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:52.400 Now you've got you know, you get Tyler Smith feeling 0:10:52.440 --> 0:10:55.880 more comfortable at left guard, Tyron Smith, all these things. 0:10:55.920 --> 0:10:58.640 You know that kind of but Nick's right, the routes, 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:02.079 the combination, the way they're scheming, the way they're getting 0:11:02.120 --> 0:11:04.920 guys open, the route we saw the other day down 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:07.480 the goal line, the swing that you went to Rico 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.800 daddle off the pick. You know, those are kind of 0:11:09.840 --> 0:11:12.679 little hints that you could say, ah, okay, and you 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:15.800 could see why. But if things were going bad, you 0:11:15.800 --> 0:11:20.120 would see it in practice. You would see balls being overthrown, 0:11:20.760 --> 0:11:25.200 you know, receiver stopping and balls now being overthrown, or 0:11:25.600 --> 0:11:27.760 balls not going to where they needed to be, or 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.760 guys open and they're not finding I don't think when 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:34.640 a new offense, new scheme, you worry about the installation 0:11:34.760 --> 0:11:37.440 of like everybody being on the same page. I know 0:11:37.520 --> 0:11:39.840 in the Jacksonville game, there was a couple of times 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.840 with you know, when they were doing with Jalen Brooks, 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:45.640 you know balls, but you know the second team ball 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:49.280 going over his head route was a receiver coure. Those 0:11:49.360 --> 0:11:51.440 are the things that are the keys to tell you 0:11:51.440 --> 0:11:54.360 if things are being are smooth or not. And I 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:57.320 think with the ones you're you're you're kind of been 0:11:57.320 --> 0:12:01.120 watching practice and it's there's not those those errors that 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:01.679 you would give. 0:12:01.720 --> 0:12:03.880 I think like they're more on the same page. 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:07.160 That's yeah, that's it, And I think that it's really 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.640 I've really been impressed just watching practice and watching Brian 0:12:11.720 --> 0:12:15.640 Schottenheimer the way he's kind of involved. Mike is back 0:12:15.720 --> 0:12:19.600 with the walkie talkie kind of surveying. But you got coaches, 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:22.440 and they've got a lot of new coaches, new line coach, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:26.679 new quarterback coach, new oc you know, they've got a 0:12:26.720 --> 0:12:28.680 lot of coaches and that's the one thing you would 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.160 worry about that there's so much newness to this that 0:12:32.280 --> 0:12:36.240 it wouldn't look it wouldn't look like it's together. Their 0:12:36.280 --> 0:12:38.400 cohesiveness that you would want in the offense. 0:12:38.440 --> 0:12:40.600 Yeah, they throw the ball in the in the red 0:12:40.679 --> 0:12:43.840 zone very well. Like that's one thing. And it's hard 0:12:43.880 --> 0:12:47.040 to tell sometimes in practice because maybe they hold on 0:12:47.080 --> 0:12:49.359 to it for three or four seconds when in reality. 0:12:49.000 --> 0:12:49.920 You can't do that. 0:12:50.120 --> 0:12:52.400 But I still like the way you see in the 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.000 two point plays, the red zone, the goal line. They 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:57.440 throw the ball well in there. I think that they've 0:12:57.480 --> 0:13:00.280 completed a lot of passes. I just like what you're 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:02.080 seeing there because if you can do that, then it 0:13:02.120 --> 0:13:04.599 should open up a little bit more running game to 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:07.240 also run inside the red zone. So you've got to 0:13:07.280 --> 0:13:08.840 be able to score in there. Don't leave it up 0:13:08.880 --> 0:13:09.520 to your field goal. 0:13:09.679 --> 0:13:11.960 This team, if you believe in analytics, plays at a 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.720 very fast paced they're the they're the fastest playing team 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:16.640 in the league when it comes to getting up running 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.719 plays and you know and the number that they do. 0:13:19.280 --> 0:13:21.720 So if they continue to do that, if you see 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:23.920 that and you see it in practice, they try to 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:28.439 play at a little bit quicker pace and so to me, Yeah, 0:13:28.559 --> 0:13:31.559 if you were, if you were struggling, you wouldn't be 0:13:31.600 --> 0:13:33.959 able to You would bog down. You would say, oh, 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.360 we're you know, run that again, run that, you know, coach, 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:39.320 can I see that again? You know that you don't 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:42.640 always hear that in practice, and that's something that kind. 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:43.640 Of leads you to believe that. 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:46.200 You know, there McCarthy might be one of these guys 0:13:46.200 --> 0:13:50.160 that believes, well, if there's a bust, will coach. 0:13:49.920 --> 0:13:51.040 It in the meeting room. 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:54.800 We're not going to stop practice to coach something up, 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:55.360 you know. 0:13:55.440 --> 0:13:57.040 And I and I don't hear that quite a bit. 0:13:57.200 --> 0:14:01.040 Very important of Jalen Tolvert cavan terping those four or 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.920 five receivers, maybe even six, because when you do play 0:14:03.960 --> 0:14:06.400 at that pace, you're throwing the ball around, you throw 0:14:06.440 --> 0:14:08.679 it deep, it's incomplete or whatever you're moving. You need 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:10.520 to get those other receivers in there a lot. 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:12.800 Yeah, that happened the other day, and you know the 0:14:13.200 --> 0:14:17.520 touchdown that that they were that was it thinking about. 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:21.160 They got the touchdown Tolbert. Tolbert got the touchdown right 0:14:21.160 --> 0:14:23.960 before the half against Jacksonville. He got the push off 0:14:24.000 --> 0:14:26.920 on the outside. Had to come back that was a 0:14:27.000 --> 0:14:29.320 series where they were playing hurry up two minute ball, 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.480 and you know, and those receivers were having to get downfield, 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.400 having to run routes, a lot of long places, oh penalty, 0:14:35.440 --> 0:14:37.520 come back, run it again, you know that kind of thing, 0:14:37.720 --> 0:14:39.480 and they were able to finish the drive like Nick 0:14:39.520 --> 0:14:42.240 talked about, you know, with the with the touchdown to Tolbert. 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.800 So those receivers are having to do a lot of 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.680 this like run, come back, run, come back, run, come back, 0:14:48.720 --> 0:14:50.960 that kind of thing. 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You won't want to miss this. 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:45.600 Welcome back. 0:17:45.680 --> 0:17:48.480 This is a second segment off the Break presented by 0:17:48.600 --> 0:17:52.520 blockchain dot com dot com. 0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:54.639 You got it right. I'm waiting for a dinger. I 0:17:54.640 --> 0:17:58.600 didn't hear a dinger. Busy, busy, busy. There he goes, 0:17:58.760 --> 0:18:00.560 there he goes on screen. 0:18:02.200 --> 0:18:03.919 Thanks Chris. Okay. 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:05.840 So I wanted to hit another point that was talked 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:08.800 about yesterday in the press conference. It was the whole 0:18:08.880 --> 0:18:14.040 safety linebacker hybrid role that is being talked about on defense. 0:18:14.560 --> 0:18:19.679 A guy that specifically was mentioned was Jaren Curse and 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:25.200 his ability, his versatility of being able to play different positions. 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:25.320 On the field. 0:18:25.720 --> 0:18:29.959 So wanted to see kind of your vision how you 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:33.680 think this is going to translate once the season gets started, 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:36.879 or what this defense might look like for the Cowboys. 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:41.760 Well, I mean, Jaron Curse is the guy that is 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.440 very similar to to overshown. I think they drafted him 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.200 with the idea of, you know, who knows how long 0:18:47.240 --> 0:18:48.840 Curse will be or is on a one year deal 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:51.560 of his contract, but that kind of hybrid player is 0:18:51.600 --> 0:18:55.400 what they're looking for. And you know, when they're all 0:18:55.400 --> 0:18:58.479 healthy and Donovan Wilson comes back, Malik Hooker and then 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.119 you have Curse. I think they're going to be in 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:03.680 good shape there, But I'm Overshown was just another tool 0:19:03.960 --> 0:19:06.600 in the toolbox that they were excited to have for 0:19:06.680 --> 0:19:11.080 this year. I think Marquise Bell maybe be able to 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:14.400 do some stuff, maybe Jabril Cox, but but I don't 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.000 think it's going to be at the same level though. 0:19:16.240 --> 0:19:19.679 Yeah, the thing that was it's I feel terrible for 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:23.440 the coaching staff on this one, because I they had 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:26.119 an idea of what they needed to do with Overshown. 0:19:27.160 --> 0:19:29.360 I think that they when they looked at him at 0:19:29.400 --> 0:19:33.960 Texas and the evaluation and the scouts and Sam Guarza 0:19:34.040 --> 0:19:36.879 and Chris Hall and these guys were talking about the player. 0:19:37.760 --> 0:19:40.360 I think Dan Quinn and the coaches had an idea 0:19:40.480 --> 0:19:42.080 and then all of a sudden they said, let's see 0:19:42.119 --> 0:19:43.920