1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,200 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's camera. This budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: to do nothing spaceports. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and politics 4 00:00:09,880 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: colliding Floomberg Sound On, the Insiders, the influencers, the insides. 5 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:17,520 Speaker 1: I would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of 6 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,680 Speaker 1: my DNA. The Senate map in looks a lot different 7 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:23,479 Speaker 1: than it looked in. You really have a divide within 8 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,279 Speaker 1: Team Trump. The President has to do exactly what people 9 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: send him here to do, which is to get it done. 10 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Shirley on Bloomberg 11 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f m h D two. 12 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and 13 00:00:40,840 --> 00:00:45,479 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Turkey US agreed to a brief ceasefire to 14 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 1: allow Kurdish retreat, a big win potentially for Vice President 15 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: Mike Pence, who met with President air to Wan of 16 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: Turkey earlier today. We will bring for you the complete 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: politics and policy analysis on this breaking news. This just 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: less than twenty four hours after what Speaker of the 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: House Nancy Pelosi described as the President Trump quote meltdown 20 00:01:09,959 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: as she walked out of the meeting at the White House. 21 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,160 Speaker 1: On the issue of Turkey, a lot of geopolitics to 22 00:01:15,240 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: sort through. The latest on the impeachment inquiry, sent a 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 1: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell eyeing a quick impeachment trial as 24 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: I've been reporting to have all of this wrapped up 25 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 1: by the end of the year. We're gonna hear, We're 26 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: gonna analyze what the latest is coming from Republican leadership 27 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 1: on the Senate in that regard, more info on Joe 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: Biden's place in the pack of the race. And we 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:48,080 Speaker 1: remember Congressman Elijah Cummings who passed away earlier today, his 30 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,480 Speaker 1: legacy as well. Before we get to all of that, 31 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: What a busy day it was, folks, As we get 32 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: new developments with Turkey. Turkey has agreed to a temporary 33 00:01:58,040 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: pause of military operations and see area that could be 34 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: extended if Kurdish fighters formerly allied with America leave the 35 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 1: border region. This coming from US Vice President Mike Pence, 36 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 1: who announced this after visiting Ankara with Secretary of State 37 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: Mike Pompeio a major development. It comes following yesterday's fiery, 38 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: for lack of a better word, fiery meeting between Democratic 39 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: leadership how Speaker Nancy Pelosi and President Trump at the 40 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: White House. It ended abruptly that meeting Speaker Pelosi walked 41 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: out of the meeting with Schumer and the like. I'm 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,080 Speaker 1: joined now by Kelly Sadler, communications director for America First Action, 43 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:41,400 Speaker 1: is a pro Trump political action committee, and A. B. Stoddard, 44 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,440 Speaker 1: Associate editor and columnist at Real Clear Politics A B. 45 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: I want to play for you what President Trump said 46 00:02:47,639 --> 00:02:53,600 Speaker 1: earlier this afternoon about this five day ceasefire between Turkey 47 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: and the Kurds in northern Syria, and I want to 48 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: get your analysis. Take a listen to President Trump. This 49 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: is an incredible outcome. This outcome is something they've been 50 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: trying to get for ten years, everybody, and they couldn't 51 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:09,120 Speaker 1: get other administrations, and they never would have been able 52 00:03:09,160 --> 00:03:12,839 Speaker 1: to get in unless you went somewhat unconventional. I guess 53 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: I'm an unconventional person. An unconventional person. Yeah, there's a 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: lot of clean up on our five going on about 55 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,320 Speaker 1: how he he thanked Americans for sticking by him and 56 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 1: he calls it a solution, and as we heard, he 57 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 1: thinks that people have been trying to get this for 58 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: ten years. He says that they're not going to have 59 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,200 Speaker 1: to kill millions of people, and millions of people aren't 60 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 1: going to have to kill them. He talked about how 61 00:03:37,000 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: the Kurds, that the churchs, we're gonna have to get 62 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: get that area cleaned out. I mean, he is stepping 63 00:03:41,840 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: in all over so many strange messages. Look, it's a 64 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: miracle that the way the defiance that air to Wan 65 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 1: showed in the in the hours before the Vice President 66 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: and the Secretary of State. Um, it was he was 67 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 1: being so provocative. The fact that that the Vice President 68 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: was able to leave with something he could call ceasefire 69 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: and the Turks are calling a pause is really really 70 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: good news in the mess that we're in. I don't 71 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,680 Speaker 1: trust that we will, Um that we can count on 72 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,160 Speaker 1: President or to Juan to keep his word and that 73 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: they're going to do the right thing. I hope and 74 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,840 Speaker 1: pray they will in the days to come and this 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,360 Speaker 1: can have a positive outcome. Um, it is definitely better 76 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: than we thought we could get when we went to 77 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:27,799 Speaker 1: bed last night and woke up this morning. But it is. Uh, 78 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: it's it's still a grave situation in terms of our 79 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:34,320 Speaker 1: relationship with Turkey. The nuclear weapons that remain there. What's 80 00:04:34,320 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: going to happen going forward? Uh, And I'm relieved, but 81 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: I again, I'm I'm not really so faithful that, um 82 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: we're dealing with uh A straight shooter and president or 83 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:48,040 Speaker 1: to one Kelly Sather, I want to play for you more. 84 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 1: What President Trump had to say about this ceasefire that 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,480 Speaker 1: Vice President Pence and Secretary Pompeio were able to get 86 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: while visiting with Turkish President er Duan during their travel 87 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,800 Speaker 1: that was announced earlier this afternoon. President Trump says, it's 88 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: quote unquote rough love. Take a listen. Regardless of how 89 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 1: the press would like to damp it down, this was 90 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: something that they've been trying to get for ten years. 91 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,560 Speaker 1: You would have lost millions and millions of lives. They 92 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,559 Speaker 1: couldn't get it without a little rough love. A little 93 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,119 Speaker 1: rough love, Kelly Sadler, is what President Trump is saying. 94 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: But as part of this agreement, Vice President Pence says 95 00:05:24,320 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: no additional U S sanctions will be imposed on Turkey, 96 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 1: much to the chagrin of Key Republicans in Congress like 97 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: Senator Lindsey Graham. Well, if Congress wants to pass UH 98 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 1: more sanctions on Turkey, they're more, they're free to do so. Um, 99 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: and the Congress connect as it wishes. Now. I think 100 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: this was a great success for the president and for 101 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 1: the Vice president today. I mean, just yesterday you had 102 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:49,839 Speaker 1: this massive blow up in the White House. The press 103 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: was running frantic about how, you know, how what a 104 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: disastrous foreign policy is. He doesn't know what he's doing. 105 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: And then you have you know, you have Mike Penson, 106 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: a Secretary palm PEO meet with Urawan in a four 107 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,200 Speaker 1: hour meeting and walk away with a hundred and twenty 108 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: hours ceasefire where the Kurds can relocate to a safe 109 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: zone in Syria and uh and and will facilitate to that. 110 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 1: And what the tough love is and what we've seen 111 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 1: over and over and repeatedly with this president is is 112 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 1: a threat of economic sanctions and crushing you know, Turkeys, 113 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: you know economy. And that has worked, you know, through 114 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: tariffs with Mexico, and we saw that on our southern border. Um, 115 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: it's working in Iran right now as we speak. Uh. 116 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,479 Speaker 1: We see that with this tear he prefers economic warfare 117 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: as as you know, hand to hand warfare. He promised 118 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: he'd get our troops out of the Middle East, and 119 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: this is his first kind of he's delivering on that 120 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 1: campaign promise. And I don't know why so many people 121 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: are so surprised that he's actually sticking to the things 122 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,120 Speaker 1: that he promised the American people in delivering on them. 123 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: All Right, well, we mentioned Senator Lindsey Graham. Let's play 124 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: for what Senator Graham Ayby had to say about the ceasefire. 125 00:06:57,760 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: Here's Lindsay Graham. It seems to be somewhat encouraging. And 126 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: I appreciate the President calling me, and I told him 127 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: I would land all the sport I can. So is 128 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 1: this going to be a pause on some of the 129 00:07:11,440 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: political attacks that the president has received in the past 130 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: week or so as it relates to his decision to 131 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: withdrawal troops from northern Syria and to to to the 132 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: to the to the criticism that the Kurdish allies have 133 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: said in response. It depends what happens on the ground. 134 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 1: And you saw Senator Omni today on the on the 135 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: floor of the Senate, you know, saying that we've lost 136 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: so much leverage that or no one gets to dictate 137 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: the terms of this a crisis, and and we're begging 138 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: for for him to stop when it shouldn't have taken 139 00:07:42,880 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 1: place to begin with. So no, I don't think it's 140 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: the last that we're going to hear of it. The 141 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: President tomorrow on Twitter could say things like he was 142 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:53,040 Speaker 1: saying yesterday, this isn't our problem. I don't care about 143 00:07:53,160 --> 00:07:57,240 Speaker 1: Terris seven thousand miles away. Um, you know, the cards 144 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: are no angels. I mean, he does flip and flop 145 00:07:59,840 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: a round different positions. Yesterday he undercut the whole reason 146 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 1: for this visit. As these two top officials, the Vice President, 147 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 1: Secretary State, we're leaving for UNCRA. He's like going wild 148 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,800 Speaker 1: talking about how this is not a strategic interest for 149 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: us and he doesn't care. And so the idea that 150 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: that's not something he would say three days from now 151 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: is that's not beyond the realm of the possible. And 152 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: that's what Republicans are concerned about, all right, Coming on, 153 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 1: much more from the panel. A. B. Stoddard, Associate editor 154 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: and columnists at Real Clear Politics. Kelly Sadler, COMPS director 155 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: for America First Action Approach Trump Political Action Committee, Marathon Mick, 156 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,800 Speaker 1: I'm calling a marathon, Mick. Did you see this press conference? 157 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 1: Acting Chief of Staff Mick mulvaney behind the Podium Marathon mcmulvney. 158 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: Much more on what he had to say coming up next. 159 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, at 160 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business App. 161 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:53,640 Speaker 1: You can also find us on Radio dot com, I 162 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent 163 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,440 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Boomberg. 164 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Sound On with Kevin Surrelate on Bloomberg 165 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: and one oh five point seven f M h D two. 166 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin CURRELLI, Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and 167 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Radio. Joining me here in studio a b Starter, 168 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 1: associate editor and columnists at Real Clear Politics. And Kelly Sadler, 169 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: former special assistant to President Trump. She's now the communications 170 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:35,520 Speaker 1: director for America First Action, a pro Trump political action committee. 171 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: Impeachment time, folks, you gotta talk impeachment. Did you hear 172 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: what Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said on Capitol Hill 173 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: earlier yesterday? This was yesterday. UM. I was struck by 174 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: this because he's saying a b is gonna be quick, 175 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: that one Speaker Pelosi moves forward with articles of impeachment 176 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: and and all likelihood the House of Representative votes to 177 00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 1: impeach President Trump, that the trial in the Senate will 178 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: be quick, take a us in leader McConnell, impeachment rules 179 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: of the Senate will take the matter up. The Chief 180 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 1: Justice will be in the chair. We will have to 181 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: convene every day six days after out of seven. So 182 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: Politico is reporting that he told Senate Republicans on Wednesday 183 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: that he expects all of this to happen around Thanksgiving 184 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: and that they will be have the Senate trial by Christmas. 185 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: Impeachment by Christmas. Yeah. So um I wrote about this 186 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: last week about how the Democrats should not Russian impeachment. 187 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:42,880 Speaker 1: That would be a big mistake. And I had a 188 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: quote from CNBC of McConnell saying, we have to bring 189 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 1: it up, but how long we stay on it, there's 190 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, there's no rule for that. So there was 191 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: some thinking that he might just dispense, like if it 192 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,599 Speaker 1: was a very narrowly tailored Ukraine only impeachment, that he 193 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 1: might dispense with it and not hold a trial, So 194 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: there's a little mystery. So when he made these comments yesterday, 195 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,960 Speaker 1: he clarified that there will be a trial no matter what. UM. 196 00:11:07,000 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: And then Nancy Pelosi, the House Speaker, said today when 197 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,439 Speaker 1: she was asked about the timeline, there is no timeline. 198 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: There's only a truth line. And they're not gonna They're 199 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 1: gonna follow the story where it leads, which is different 200 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 1: than what they've been saying, UM for the last couple 201 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,960 Speaker 1: of weeks, even you know, privately, they were saying, we've 202 00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,559 Speaker 1: got to really, we've got to get get through this, 203 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: and they were talking about by Thanksgiving, and and now 204 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: it doesn't seem um, as the story widens and deepens, 205 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: I don't think they're going to be passing articles by Thanksgiving. Wow. 206 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:36,280 Speaker 1: Kelly Well, I think it's very interesting kind of what 207 00:11:36,679 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi is doing in the maneuvering here. Um. She 208 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:44,559 Speaker 1: isn't bringing the formal impeachment increase the floor for a vote, 209 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: and we know that this is something that hasn't been 210 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:50,600 Speaker 1: done in the last three impeachment hearings, and it's because 211 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: she doesn't want Republicans to be able to have subpoena 212 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: power or does or actually any access into this process 213 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,839 Speaker 1: at all. She wants to keep this very narrow, very focused, 214 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:04,600 Speaker 1: and she wants to get it done fast because she 215 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: knows that she's got we we're looking at thirty one, 216 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: you know, representatives in districts that the president won overwhelmingly 217 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: that are not for impeachment, that want Congress to get 218 00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:18,520 Speaker 1: focused on kitchen table issues which won them the House 219 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: in which they're not doing um. And she's got that 220 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: push back on, you know, within her own caucus of 221 00:12:25,080 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: these members saying, hey, we don't really want to put 222 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:28,360 Speaker 1: up for a vote, don't put us up for a vote. 223 00:12:28,400 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: Keep this narrow, keep this focus, and let's get it 224 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:33,400 Speaker 1: over before Christmas so that we can go back to 225 00:12:33,400 --> 00:12:35,680 Speaker 1: our districts and maybe let's pass U U S m 226 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: c A. I mean, she did say yesterday that there 227 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: was hope for US m c A. Let's actually put 228 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,640 Speaker 1: some wins on our belt. Um. And then you've got 229 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 1: you know, the ao c s and the radical left 230 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 1: that are like, let's make this broad, let's go into 231 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: different issues, let's go beyond the Ukraine and just dig 232 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:50,959 Speaker 1: up what we can dig up and bring this into 233 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: an election year. So I mean, I think that I 234 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: think that she's going to try to keep it narrow 235 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: and like what McConnell was saying yesterday, they like to 236 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 1: get this done by Christmas, so this can be erased, 237 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:04,559 Speaker 1: be over, and we can focus on election year cycle. Maybe. 238 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Mick mulvaney, the President's acting chief of staff, gave a 239 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: press conference. I'm sure both of you are aware of 240 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: this press conference. It went on what was the clock 241 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 1: on that thing? Wow? I mean it was like longer. 242 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: It felt longer than the House, than the than the 243 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: than the Democratic presidential debate, which was also long. I'm joking. 244 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: I'm joking. Sorry, bad humor. Um. And he was asked 245 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:29,439 Speaker 1: by John Carl of ABC News about about a quid 246 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: pro quo and whatnot with Youkraine, I'm gonna play for 247 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 1: the exchange, and then I have a question for you. 248 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: Take a lesson you just described as a quid pro quo. 249 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: It is funding will not flow unless the investigation into 250 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: the into the Democratic server, Uh happened as well, we 251 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 1: do We do that all the time with foreign policy. 252 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: So now, in terms of a sound bite, folks, critics 253 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: of the administration will say, well, there he just said it. 254 00:13:56,800 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: He just said it was a quid pro quo in 255 00:13:58,440 --> 00:14:02,000 Speaker 1: terms of the foreign policy with Ukraine and funds and whatnot. 256 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 1: But to the to the president's supporters, they're going to say, well, 257 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 1: this is just how foreign policy is conducted, whether you 258 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: like it or not, and the Trump administration is just 259 00:14:11,760 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 1: knowning it. So there was a very interesting um statement 260 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: from the Department of Justice following mcmulvaney's briefing where they wrote, 261 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: if the White House was withholding aid in regards to 262 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 1: cooperation with any investigation at the d o J, this 263 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 1: is news to US. UM so a public pushback from 264 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:36,120 Speaker 1: them on mcmulvaney's explanation. The explanations continue to grow more 265 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: confusing with more revelations that are coming out of the depositions. 266 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,520 Speaker 1: UM over on the House side and um there is 267 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 1: no question that in uh these relationships between between between 268 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: foreign leaders, there's a given a take, and that's how 269 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: you build consensus, you build trust. There's no question but 270 00:14:54,840 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: having an unaccountable private citizen like Rudy Giuliani running a 271 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 1: de facto foreign policy that is not furthering our national 272 00:15:04,200 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: security objectives and our foreign policy objectives officially through official channels, 273 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:12,160 Speaker 1: but using actually some high level officials to rope into 274 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,800 Speaker 1: something that is conditioned for the political domestic the domestic 275 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: political aims of the president is unacceptable. That what we're 276 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: not talking about beyond Ukraine is the fact that Rudy 277 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: Giuliani was doing the work of the Turkish government, President 278 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: urawuan Um on two fronts. On a cleric he wanted extraditeed, 279 00:15:29,400 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: and on a case he wanted to slow and and 280 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:33,800 Speaker 1: to be stopped before it went to trial because it 281 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: would expose some corruption and embarrass President or to one 282 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani and President Trump engaged Brudi Giuliani on this 283 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: without going into a million details and take up too 284 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: much time. This is completely unacceptable. This is not This 285 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 1: is what the founders tried to stop Kelly, as it 286 00:15:49,840 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 1: relates to Giuliani, and as it relates to to the 287 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: issue of impeachment. If this the general thinking, as we 288 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: all know, is that this would be ended by the 289 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:02,160 Speaker 1: end of the year. But let's let's offer a different scenario. 290 00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: And I hate engaging in hypotheticals, but hypothetically speaking, should 291 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: this drag on into next calendar year and in around 292 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:14,760 Speaker 1: the conventions even or in the spring, what how will 293 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: that impact election. Well, I mean, one thing that we're 294 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 1: seeing from the president's base, and you can just look 295 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: at this in fundraising numbers, UM, is that you know, 296 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 1: the RNC and the campaign had a record breaking third 297 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,200 Speaker 1: quarter raising over you know, I think was a hundred 298 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: twenty five million dollars and they have a hundred fifty 299 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,720 Speaker 1: eight plus cash on hand, um, and the donations are 300 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: are pouring in because this fires up the base in 301 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: the fact that you know, it is believed among you know, 302 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: the Trump supporters that this has been a witch hunt 303 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: that has been going on ever since, you know, November eighth, 304 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,360 Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen, when he was elected to office. The 305 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 1: Democrats wanted him impeached. We saw the headlines soon thereafter. 306 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: Vanity Fair in December fifteen route an article entitled, you 307 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: know now the the time to start to impeach Donald 308 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: Trump is right now. And on January twenty is inauguration day, 309 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: the Washington Post, you know, ran ahead headline, you know, 310 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: the strategy to impeach Donald Trump. Then we had the 311 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: Muhler investigation for two and a half years, which turned 312 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: up nothing. This this this impeachment inquiry over Ukraine. It 313 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 1: really it's very it's very simple. The call was released, 314 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: there was no transcript was released, there was no quid 315 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:29,360 Speaker 1: pro quote quote in it. The Ukrainian president himself said 316 00:17:29,359 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 1: that he didn't feel any pressure um. If you look 317 00:17:31,640 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: back at the timeline, the Ukrainian officials did not know 318 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: that any aid was being withheld um during these talks. 319 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: So it's really hard to extort someone if they don't 320 00:17:42,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: know they're being extorted, right, So I don't I don't 321 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: understand where the they're There is maybe something well with 322 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: these investigations will turn up, but right now, I'm very 323 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: skeptical to comment on anything because they all of these uh, 324 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, depositions are happening behind closed doors, uh in 325 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: secret meetings with Adam Schiff, who spread lies like for 326 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: the last two and a half years, and you know what, 327 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,240 Speaker 1: and they're being leaked selectively to the press. So we 328 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 1: don't know what the truth is. All right, coming up, 329 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk twenty. We're gonna leave it there. We 330 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: could go back and forth on the n pagement A 331 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: for you all day, but maybe Stard's gonna stay. Kelly 332 00:18:14,480 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 1: Sadler's going to say, Kelly, I didn't know you used 333 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:19,400 Speaker 1: to be a reporter of Bloomberg News. Yes, I did cover. 334 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 1: I covered um the cable industry, cable and satellite industry 335 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: cable news. Yes. No. Penal stays down on the Bloomberg 336 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,520 Speaker 1: sund On podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com. 337 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 1: We're by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. You can also 338 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: find us on Radio dot Com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. 339 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: Kelly Souther used to cover cable news and now she's 340 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: at the bro Trump super Back. I'm Kevin CEREALI Cheap 341 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 1: Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television on Bloomberg Radio. I cover Washington. 342 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:54,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg Sound On 343 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: with Kevin surl on Bloomberg nine one and one Old 344 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: five point seven f M HD tooth. I'm Kevin Cirelli, 345 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:06,000 Speaker 1: Chief Washington correspondent from Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio, and 346 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: I'm a Nats fan. Now I'm gonna root for the 347 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:16,120 Speaker 1: now exactly because I from Billy. I think I might 348 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: have mentioned it Delco you might have heard me mentioned 349 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: it just once or twice. I'm joined by Aby Stadder 350 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: and associate editor and columnists at real clear politics. Kelly 351 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 1: Sadler comes director for America First Action Approach on Political 352 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,359 Speaker 1: Action Committee. She used to work at Bloomberg News covering 353 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: cable the cable industry folks. Kelly, I didn't know this 354 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:36,720 Speaker 1: until literally twenty minutes ago. So we're filled to out 355 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,360 Speaker 1: both of you here. I want to talk fresh back 356 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: from Ohio. I love Ohio. I was right outside of 357 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: Columbus covering the debate Autobide University. Never heard of it. 358 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be candid now I know it, and it 359 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: was a gratulate. They did such a great job. A 360 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: big takeaways though, Elizabeth Warren a b now a front runner, 361 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 1: uh and now now taking a lot of heat. Lauren Davison, 362 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: my colleague here and my other coll like Mr Lenna A. 363 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 1: Goulfa Polulu, have this brilliant story out on the Blueberg terminal. 364 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 1: My executive producer, Christine Bard and I were talking about 365 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,880 Speaker 1: it all afternoon, going back and forth. Here's the lead. 366 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren took a lot of flak at this week's 367 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:17,960 Speaker 1: Democratic presidential debate for being evasive about the taxes needed 368 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: to pay for the thirty trillion dollar Medicare for All plan. 369 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: That she champions. There's a reason for her being vague. 370 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 1: Her team hasn't yet figured out how to pay for it. Now. Abe, 371 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,160 Speaker 1: there's part of me when I talked to folks that says, 372 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: this is smart politics for her, because she's allowing herself, 373 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: if she becomes the nominee for the party, to play politics, 374 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: be evasive, try to be a deal, deal maker of swords. 375 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: And then there's another part of me that says, you've 376 00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: got to just do what Bernie did. Same middle class 377 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: taxes are going to go up because people, these independent 378 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: voters can see through that. Your take, I just think 379 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: she really had this coming, you know, she um, she doesn't. 380 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:01,680 Speaker 1: She has a plan for everything. She is five eight 381 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: plans or something, but she doesn't have a plan for healthcare, 382 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 1: the most important issue to the Democratic Party and in 383 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,440 Speaker 1: many polls the most important issue to Republican voters as well. 384 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 1: And what does she do? She she she co ops 385 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 1: Bernie's plan. I'm with Bernie. I'm with Bernie, but I 386 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: don't know my own plan. And then Bernie admits is 387 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: going to raise taxes, and then she won't admit it's 388 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: going to raise taxes. She was so painful to listen 389 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: to her say costs are gonna be down, costs will 390 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: stay down, after everyone was saying, yeah, like it's obvious 391 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: what this means. It means that when you get sick, 392 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 1: your costs will stay down because we're all paying the 393 00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: taxes to pay for the big pot in the public 394 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:42,679 Speaker 1: government program. So it's you know, she it's been a 395 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: long time coming, and she is the front runner now. Um. 396 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,720 Speaker 1: And I just think that it's an interesting for someone 397 00:21:49,720 --> 00:21:52,159 Speaker 1: who's so smart and runs such a good campaign that 398 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: she kind of let herself get into this trap. I 399 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,679 Speaker 1: don't mean Pamala Harris is ms and doesn't know what 400 00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: you know, she's made all these unforced arison healthcare. But 401 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 1: I kind of surprised Littlelizeth Warren did this to herself 402 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 1: and again on this really important issue. And and it 403 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: just unfortunately is part of a piece about her, which 404 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: you know, the theme is the party scared of you. 405 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: The establishments is scared of you. They don't think you're electable. 406 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 1: Your ideas are radical, We can't afford you, and they 407 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: are all pipe dreams anyway. And and finally she I 408 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: mean she had Biden, Klobuchar, bud everyone coming out I 409 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: mean a good number of people coming at her just saying, um, 410 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:34,000 Speaker 1: you know, we've smoked you out, and it'll be interesting 411 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:36,160 Speaker 1: to see how she tries to recover. Kelly Sadler to 412 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:39,440 Speaker 1: Abe Stoddard's point, I mean, I've got USA today open. 413 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 1: And Joe Biden just spoke to reporters and he was 414 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 1: asked about the pressure that Elizabeth Borea now bases. You 415 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,720 Speaker 1: know what he said, this quote is brilliant, just just 416 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: just got posted like fourteen minutes ago. Quote, Well, it's 417 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: kind of about time other people get questions. He's saying, 418 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: where's where's everybody been? And then he goes on to say, quote, 419 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: you know, I haven't seen any polling showing that nationally 420 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: on average, that anybody else is a front runner. You 421 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 1: guys keep talking about that. In so Joe Biden saying 422 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,119 Speaker 1: that he's still the front runner. If you look at 423 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:11,239 Speaker 1: the polls, he's still up there at the top. Uh. 424 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: I would you look at all of the heat and 425 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: the attacks that Biden has taken, he is still at 426 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: the top. Y. Yeah, But I do I wonder how 427 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 1: for how much longer? Um? The field is still very big. Unfortunately, 428 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: And I thought that was a drawback of this week's debate. 429 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 1: There was stage interrupting you, and I apologize because it's 430 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: four hosting skills, a three hour debate. Yeah, I mean 431 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,320 Speaker 1: when half of the I'm not gonna say this. I'm 432 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: not gonna you know, I don't like to help people. 433 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: But there were a lot of people in that spin 434 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: room who had the gnats on. That's all I'm gonna say. 435 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,960 Speaker 1: Go ahead. Well, I mean they're too long, um, and 436 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: there's too many there's too many contenders, and the DANC 437 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,760 Speaker 1: hasn't done a good enough job in terms of winnowing 438 00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: the field. We know who the top three are, right, 439 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,880 Speaker 1: and the top three are going to stay. The top 440 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: three's Joe Biden, Elizabeth Warren, and Bernie Sanders. And unless 441 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 1: there's some sort of breakthrough or dark horse at this point, 442 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 1: I just don't see the polls changing much from you know, 443 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: the debate this week now with Elizabeth Warren, everyone on 444 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: stage seemed to treat her as the front runner. Um. 445 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 1: They were going after her, and she really does have 446 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 1: the soft underbelly with this Medicare for All plan and 447 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: the fact that she will not admit it's going to 448 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: raise taxes on the middle class, and everyone knows that 449 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: it will. And you know what, America knows its will, 450 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 1: and independence know it will, and they see through it, 451 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,399 Speaker 1: and they're wondering, why are why is she lying to 452 00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 1: me here? Why why is she trying to disguise this 453 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 1: as something that we all know is isn't possible. I mean, 454 00:24:31,720 --> 00:24:35,160 Speaker 1: thirty trillion dollars for medical medicare for all, one trillion 455 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: dollar for universal healthcare, six billion dollars for free college, 456 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: six hundred forty billion dollars for eliminating student a hundred 457 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: billion dollars on the opioid crisis. And these are all 458 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren's plans. And she's like, oh, we'll do the 459 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: two percent. Well text, it's gonna be two cents, two cents, okay, 460 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 1: So that will raise you know, two point seven five 461 00:24:53,920 --> 00:24:58,640 Speaker 1: trillion over a decade. You're still thirty trillion dollars short, 462 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,520 Speaker 1: all right. So so Warren's gonna take some heat. Biden's 463 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 1: taking some heat on Hunter if you uh, Bernie Sanders 464 00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 1: is getting AOC's endorsement and queens this weekend. So there's 465 00:25:12,160 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: also in the chattering class. I hate saying that, maybe 466 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 1: it just makes me cringe, but but The talk is 467 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,200 Speaker 1: that someone's trying to present themselves as an alternatives to Biden. 468 00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,120 Speaker 1: That person could be South Bend mayor Pete Budda Jet. 469 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: She hasn't gone after Biden. He's actually been taking it 470 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,160 Speaker 1: to Warren to try to say to folks, he's raised 471 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: a ton of money. Uh is there? Is it too 472 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: late for someone else to catch fire? Uh? To present themselves? 473 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: I think the party is a mess. It's deeply divided. 474 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 1: I think they don't like their candidates. People who like 475 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: Warren say, but I sort of know she's probably not 476 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: a good general election candidate. People who love Biden worry, 477 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,920 Speaker 1: what's he gonna be like, you know, next August um um. 478 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:52,679 Speaker 1: People who love Bernie don't think he's gonna make it. 479 00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: But he's in it for the fight, and he's got 480 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: all the endorsements, and he's got all the money, and 481 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: he's going to go to the convention. And as we 482 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 1: all know it, Bernie zion in a Democrat. He doesn't 483 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:02,560 Speaker 1: care if he blows up the convention and re electro 484 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: because he's leading a movement and he's not gonna stop. 485 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 1: So the idea that that this isn't fluid is crazy. 486 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 1: It is fluid. And I do think Warren's the front 487 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: runner now. Um, but and I and I won't be 488 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: surprised if it doesn't. If it isn't fluid. But you know, 489 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 1: and and the three of those people still stay at 490 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: the top, fighting for these different licenes. But like Pete 491 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: Buddha Judge, the reason he resolves money is because he 492 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,639 Speaker 1: has a he has a very strong following, and he 493 00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: is a dark horse. And Io, which is a very 494 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 1: white state, he does badly with black voters, but he 495 00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:37,359 Speaker 1: could take some well educated liberals from Warren. He couldn't. 496 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 1: He has the money to organize in Iowa. And Um, 497 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,880 Speaker 1: I think there could be some shake ups later on. 498 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: I don't think a new person is going to get 499 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 1: in the race. But the idea that like Klobachar raise 500 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: more than any of them in the time four hours 501 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:52,840 Speaker 1: after the debate means that there's some centrist left in 502 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 1: that party. So it's crazy. I mean, I don't know. 503 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 1: I'm not going to be surprised if it gets resorted, 504 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: you know. She that's yeah, I I see, I'm I'm 505 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 1: all excited. So now I can't talk focus Kevin. Um. 506 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 1: I think it'll be interesting to see how Senator Clovichar 507 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: positions herself in the mix of this, and whether or 508 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,959 Speaker 1: not she can potentially even catch fire. I'm struck by 509 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,520 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Morton, who, as you know, maybe I've literally covered 510 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,720 Speaker 1: her from a wonky standpoint from her Senate Banking Committee days, 511 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,479 Speaker 1: but the Larry Summers versus Janet Yell and the CFPB stuff. 512 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: Her answer with the CFPB was the best answer she's 513 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,600 Speaker 1: ever talked about the CFPB against Joe Biden. But it 514 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: strikes me why she just doesn't say, I'm not if 515 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: she if she keeps saying on this issue of tax 516 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: is going to go up, why wouldn't she just say, 517 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, what you're really asking me is I'm not 518 00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: saying I agree with this, But why not say what 519 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 1: you're asking me is it got your question and you're 520 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: asking me the terms of someone else's game, and I'm 521 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 1: not going to play that. There's so many ways to 522 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: handle this question, and I'm just so baffled. It reminds 523 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 1: me of Jeb Bush not being able to answer IRAQ 524 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: in the sense that you know this question is coming, 525 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:02,879 Speaker 1: why aren't you, Why don't you why don't you have 526 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,920 Speaker 1: it prepared? Ditto for Joe Biden on Hunter and why 527 00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: it was allowed when he was VP and not wouldn't 528 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: be allowed when he was president. But that's just my 529 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:14,160 Speaker 1: my soapbox. I apologize ab Stider tire stick around. What's 530 00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,520 Speaker 1: on your radar? Kelly sad there also here what's on 531 00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: her radar? I'll tell you what's online. It involves the Nationals, 532 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: it involves the Nets. I'm a fan now Washington. 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This is Bloomberg Sound On with 542 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Surley on Bloomberg and one oh five point seven 543 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 1: FM h D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, chief Washington correspondent 544 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Television. Of Bloomberg Radio. I'm joined by A. B. Stoddard, 545 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: associate editor and columnists at Real Clear Politics, and Kelly Sadler, 546 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: communications director for America First Action, a pro Trump political 547 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: action committee. It's time now for what's on the panel's radar. 548 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna kick things off because here's what's on my radar. 549 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:30,160 Speaker 1: The story in the Hill by Alex Gagatano uh and 550 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 1: the headline reads lawmakers set to host fundraisers focused on 551 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,720 Speaker 1: Nats World Series trip. Members of Congress are taking advantage 552 00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: of the DC team going to the World Series, with 553 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: a number of them planning fundraisers centered around the Nationals 554 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: appearance in it. The World Series begins Tuesday, with the 555 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: Nats schedule to play on the road against either the 556 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,200 Speaker 1: Yankees or the Astros. The Nationals will host Game three 557 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,479 Speaker 1: and four, if necessary, Game five at Nats Park on 558 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,520 Speaker 1: October And all right, Ben Sass Republican from Nebraska, he's 559 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 1: up for reelection. He's having a fundraiser on the seven 560 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 1: for Game five of the World Series. Tickets are five 561 00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: grand for from packs hundred from individuals. Tim Caine Hey, Timkine, 562 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:21,040 Speaker 1: Democrat from Virginia. He's up for re election in four. 563 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,800 Speaker 1: He's holding a fundraiser on Saturday octobery for tickets to 564 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Game four of the World Series, also similar pricing. And 565 00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:33,920 Speaker 1: then you've got Senator Todd Young, Tom Cotton, Frank Polone, 566 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: Stephanie Murphy, they're all holding fundraisers around the outs. I 567 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 1: will never, ever, ever forget being on the ACELA going 568 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: up to New York and I ran into Senator pat 569 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: to Me, a Republican from oh my gosh, where I'm from. 570 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:51,920 Speaker 1: And it was right around when the Eagles were in 571 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,720 Speaker 1: the in the Super Bowl, and I said, are you excited, Senator, 572 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: Like we finally made it, We're in the super Bowl. 573 00:30:56,480 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 1: He's like, I gotta go to a fundraiser. So it's funny, 574 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: I guess, and weirdly not funny, but disappointing that even 575 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: around this time of year, they're doing this breaking news 576 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: on the Bloomberg terminal redheadline. Mc mulvaney denies admitting quid 577 00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: pro quod military aid. That laugh was from maybe that aid? 578 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: All right, Kelly Sadler, what's on your radar? Well, Darrell, 579 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: And I mean, let's be honest, this isn't I don't 580 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: want this to be on my radar. But you know, 581 00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:28,480 Speaker 1: there's been all these headlines this afternoon, journalists freaking out 582 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: on Twitter of the president is going to profit off 583 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 1: of his drill properties for the G seven. Listen just 584 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:37,920 Speaker 1: says the G seven is gonna be Yeah did G seven? Yeah? 585 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: Did G seven is gonna be at drill so um, 586 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: so let's listen, this is going to be at cost, 587 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 1: which means that there is going to be no profiteering 588 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: off of this um uh adventure at the G seven 589 00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 1: for the Trump family. And and you know, the basic 590 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: bottom line is is the President loves to host people. 591 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:59,400 Speaker 1: He's very proud of his properties. Um, they are spectacular 592 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: property ease that are are accommodating to world leaders in 593 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 1: in major metro markets. So I wish them the best 594 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 1: and I hope they have a great G seven next 595 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: year at Trump Draw. All Right, a lot of folks 596 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: just that we know this, are concerned that the President 597 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: has brought aiteering off of his properties while he's in 598 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,040 Speaker 1: the White House. Malvany goat that Marathon press conference, Arathon Mick, 599 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 1: he said, uh, he said that they're fully prepared for 600 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: that oversight. What's on your radar? Ab s daughter, Well, um, 601 00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: the House Republicans and Democrats House members of Congress. UM 602 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: lost a longtime colleague, Congressman Elijah Commings of Baltimore, Maryland, overnight. 603 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: And UM, you know me, Kevin, UM, your lonely centrist goober, 604 00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 1: UM who's always looking up for the two parties to 605 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,200 Speaker 1: put their country first, UM and their travelism behind them. 606 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: And it was really beautiful today to see how many 607 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:56,240 Speaker 1: Republicans came out and admitted how much they love Elijah Cummings, 608 00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 1: how much their friendship with him moved them one by track. 609 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: A former member from South Carolina was absolutely I commend 610 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: to everybody but Mark Meadows of North Carolina. UM. Former 611 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: Congressman Jason Chaffitz, who worked hand in hand on the 612 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 1: committee UM with Elijah when he was when when Chaefitz 613 00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: was chairman and Cummings was ranking. So UM, these are 614 00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: the relationships that UM keep our institutions going. UM and UH. 615 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: I'm sad to think that there are fewer and fewer 616 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 1: of them, but I hope everyone learns about them and 617 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 1: celebrates them when we can find them. Everyone from Speaker 618 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: Pelosi ordering the flags to be half raised today, UH. 619 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: Governor Hogan of Maryland also praising him. He was a 620 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: share cropper's son who worked his way up to be 621 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:46,560 Speaker 1: a twenty three year veteran in the halls of Congress. 622 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:48,840 Speaker 1: I was struck by as you know, Abe, I'm a 623 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:52,840 Speaker 1: huge fan of quotes and motivational quotes, and I was 624 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: struck just by you. You hear this, this leader's story 625 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: and how he came from nothing, uh and and rose 626 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: the ranks. And I loved this quote he said. Quote. 627 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: Most people who are hating on you, they are not 628 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: worried about where you are. They're worried about where you're going. 629 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,720 Speaker 1: That's from Elijah Cummings as we remember him. Thanks for listening. 630 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:15,600 Speaker 1: I'm Kevin CURRELLI you're listening to Bloomberg.