Speaker 1: How Well the Gianno called Well part of the game
Speaker 1: whig Space Shift Book. I'm Gianno Carbro. I want to
Speaker 1: welcome to my brand new weekly podcast Out Loud with
Speaker 1: Gianno Caldwell. Well. We speak the truth no matter where
Speaker 1: you are in the political aisle, and we are the
Speaker 1: sworn enemy of the PC culture. I'm very excited to
Speaker 1: welcome my first guest. He's a legendary NFL star and
Speaker 1: he's lighting up the political stage and telling his truth
Speaker 1: every day. I want to welcome to the program herschel
Speaker 1: Walker in a few minutes, but first I'd like to
Speaker 1: share a little more about myself and what you can
Speaker 1: expect from the show and the weeks, the months, and
Speaker 1: hopefully the years to come. You may know me as
Speaker 1: a political analyst on the Fox News Channel, or the
Speaker 1: author of the best selling book Taken for Granted, How
Speaker 1: Conservatism can win back to Americans that liberalism failed, or
Speaker 1: maybe perhaps you just follow me on social media. But
Speaker 1: today I am so so excited to launch my new
Speaker 1: show Outlued with Giano Calledwell, the sworn Enemy of the
Speaker 1: PC culture. This very podcast you are listening to right
Speaker 1: now in this moment. More often than not, people who
Speaker 1: know my story. Asked, how do you I got from
Speaker 1: the city of Chicago, who grew up on the South
Speaker 1: side of Chicago and the family that was extremely poor,
Speaker 1: with the mother who was addicted to drugs most of
Speaker 1: your childhood become a conservative? I know. It's a question
Speaker 1: that I still asked myself every day. Well, I take
Speaker 1: you to a story I wrote about in my book
Speaker 1: Taken for Granted. One day on the South side of Chicago.
Speaker 1: I was having a conversation with the older African American
Speaker 1: gentleman about politics. I had told him what everyone in
Speaker 1: my community had said about Republicans. It was the party
Speaker 1: of racists, people who didn't care about poor people, black people, Hispanics. Actually,
Speaker 1: what I was taught is Republicans didn't care about anyone
Speaker 1: unless they were a rich, old white man. And as
Speaker 1: I began to speak with him about this, he pushed
Speaker 1: back on my rhetoric, something I actually did not expect
Speaker 1: from an older black gentleman on the South Side of Chicago,
Speaker 1: but he did. He told me that at a time,
Speaker 1: all African Americans were conservatives. He said that MLK was
Speaker 1: a conservative. And as he began to mention these things,
Speaker 1: I was beginning to be outraged, because how dare you
Speaker 1: lie to me? On the South side of Chicago. As
Speaker 1: you can tell, I come from the hood, but maybe
Speaker 1: I'm not really hood. And as we begin to have
Speaker 1: our conversation, I could tell that this older gentleman, who
Speaker 1: seemingly knew more than me, maybe had a point that
Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I went home and I did something
Speaker 1: so simple. I opened up Google and I typed in
Speaker 1: difference between Democrats and Republicans, and there I saw the
Speaker 1: history of the Republican Party eighteen fifty four, started in
Speaker 1: opposition to the Kansas Brasqua Act, which wanted to expand slavery.
Speaker 1: I saw that as gentleman was actually being honest. Congressman, governors, mayors,
Speaker 1: some of the first elected African American officials were all Conservatives.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. How could this be? I thought,
Speaker 1: How could I be a racist? Or in my community
Speaker 1: they would call me uncle Tom for thinking about these
Speaker 1: concepts and breaking the molde of what was traditionally taught
Speaker 1: in the community I grew up in. I begin to
Speaker 1: see the ideology of conservatives and see myself in that
Speaker 1: same life. It didn't make sense to me as I
Speaker 1: was reading these numerous websites, I honestly believed I was
Speaker 1: reading propaganda. And I'm sure some people are listening to
Speaker 1: this right now. You may be a Democrat, you may
Speaker 1: be on the left, and you may be saying, hey,
Speaker 1: it was propaganda. It's not true. Republicans are this, that,
Speaker 1: and the other. I want to tell you you should
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast every week because I believe you
Speaker 1: will learn something. Republicans aren't the party of racist. That
Speaker 1: narrative is so false and so played that I'm tired
Speaker 1: of hearing it. Republicans are the party of breaking free
Speaker 1: civil rights. Every civil right bill that was ever a
Speaker 1: sponsored or in or past was because of Republican support.
Speaker 1: And I'm very, very proud of that history. I'm emboldened
Speaker 1: in the fact that I know that being a part
Speaker 1: of a pro faith party is for the good of
Speaker 1: all Americans, all people around the world. I'm emboldened in
Speaker 1: that fact. I would tell my story more as you
Speaker 1: continue to listen to this podcast. You also can learn
Speaker 1: more through my book Taken for Granted. But the good
Speaker 1: news here is I will be unabashed when I speak
Speaker 1: my thoughts. You can count on consistency for me. I
Speaker 1: welcome listeners of every political affiliation, Democrats, Republicans, independents, and libertarians.
Speaker 1: I think this is a conversation with everywhere. Everyone is welcome. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: everyone is welcome in this dialogue. I welcome listeners who
Speaker 1: believe things that we've never heard before, but more importantly,
Speaker 1: those who recognize that PC culture hasn't made us better
Speaker 1: as a country, but has endangered the freedoms and liberties
Speaker 1: the Constitution loan guaranteed. Please join me on this journey
Speaker 1: every Monday for new episodes, and I can promise you this,
Speaker 1: you will never be disappointed. And now I'm so excited
Speaker 1: to welcome my very first guest on the Outline with
Speaker 1: Giano Caldwell, the legendary, the one, the only man who
Speaker 1: we love respect in a lot of cases, considering a hero.
Speaker 1: Herschel Walker. Everyone, I'm talking about the one and only
Speaker 1: legendary football player, herschel Walker. Some of you may remember
Speaker 1: Herscheler is one of the greatest college football players ever,
Speaker 1: winning the Heisman Trophy in his junior year and leading
Speaker 1: the University of Georgia to a national championship. He then
Speaker 1: went on to a long career in the NFL before
Speaker 1: getting involved in mixed martial arts and a whole array
Speaker 1: of other pursuits that will get into these they as.
Speaker 1: He's a prominent supporter of President Trump and took over
Speaker 1: the internet last month when he delivered a remarkable speech
Speaker 1: at this year's Republican National Convention. He wants to terrorize defenses.
Speaker 1: Now he's terrorizing those on the left were trying to
Speaker 1: divide us with identity politics. Herschel, thank you so so
Speaker 1: much for coming on. I truly appreciate your time. Hey,
Speaker 1: thank you for having me on. It's an arm and
Speaker 1: keeping up with and uh, you're doing a great job yourself,
Speaker 1: so I gotta give you a hand as well for
Speaker 1: all the things you're doing for this country. Man. That
Speaker 1: that really touches my heart. And I'm so thankful to
Speaker 1: hear that from you, because you're one of my personal
Speaker 1: heroes and you have such an amazing story that I
Speaker 1: think everyone really needs to hear. Would you mind telling
Speaker 1: us about your childhood and how you grew up. Well,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit interested because everyone, you know, they
Speaker 1: look at the always say they look at the gloria,
Speaker 1: but they don't look at my whole story and what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is I didn't grow up in sports.
Speaker 1: And you know, everyone just assume because I'm a football
Speaker 1: player that I got all of escalades are awards and
Speaker 1: footballs and through AFRITEX, that that's all I ever done.
Speaker 1: Where the truth is, I never watched sports. The only
Speaker 1: sports I ever watched was like w WF wrestling and stuff,
Speaker 1: and and I knew a lot about that, but I
Speaker 1: didn't know about sports. And most sports that I've learned
Speaker 1: has come from books. I grew up a little bit overweight,
Speaker 1: where people you said, my mom's that was big bone,
Speaker 1: and uh, and you know I was. I had a
Speaker 1: stuttering problem. I used to stutter real bad. And I
Speaker 1: had kids that picked on me. They used to beat
Speaker 1: me up, and and uh, at the point in my life,
Speaker 1: enough was enough. Uh you know, I started working out,
Speaker 1: I started changing everything in my life, and so much
Speaker 1: change in my life. But uh, you know, the way
Speaker 1: I was brought up didn't change. And what I mean
Speaker 1: by that is I was brought up in the church.
Speaker 1: My mom as a minister, and uh so I have
Speaker 1: three sisters as ministers. I have two brother laws as
Speaker 1: a minister. So all brought up in the church. And
Speaker 1: I do remember as the kids were picking on me.
Speaker 1: One day, I hear my one pair of son and
Speaker 1: shoes to go to church. And my nickname is Bold.
Speaker 1: I told my mom I couldn't go to church because
Speaker 1: I couldn't find my shoes. And she turned to me
Speaker 1: and she said, Jesus don't care how you look. And
Speaker 1: that's really change my life because you know, all my
Speaker 1: life people are worried about how I look, being overweight,
Speaker 1: how sound. They know someone that didn't care how I look,
Speaker 1: how I sound. I decided, you know, I want to
Speaker 1: forward this dude here it goes the dude here got
Speaker 1: it going on. So that's how my life sort of changed.
Speaker 1: And and that's why I've been blessed through athletics. But
Speaker 1: also I've been blessed to try to be honest as well,
Speaker 1: be honestly telling the truth. And that's why I when
Speaker 1: you talk about talking at the convention, I tell people,
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's hard that people don't want to
Speaker 1: know the truth. You know, I'm not here, And one
Speaker 1: thing that unique is I didn't come here to light
Speaker 1: any When I came here to tell you the truth.
Speaker 1: You can like it or not like it. You know,
Speaker 1: it's not gonna change how I feel and what I think. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's so powerful, and you really remind me. Your story
Speaker 1: resonates with me because it reminds me of myself. You
Speaker 1: and you were one of seven and one of nine.
Speaker 1: I grew up in a very religious household, and I'd
Speaker 1: like to say we had relationship with the father, not
Speaker 1: necessarily to be religious. But it's so powerful how a
Speaker 1: faith journey can take you to a massive success. Like
Speaker 1: I'm talking to you right now, your lovely home and
Speaker 1: your lovely wife set everything up. I'm just so intrigued
Speaker 1: by how that faith walk that you talk about so powerfully,
Speaker 1: how that was conducive to bringing you into where you
Speaker 1: are right now today. Well, you know, one of the
Speaker 1: things I say is I said, God has given us
Speaker 1: all a path, But in giving us that path doesn't
Speaker 1: mean it chest for us. We gotta read back to
Speaker 1: help other people. Well, you know, I came from a
Speaker 1: small town in Souft, Georgia, and but I still got
Speaker 1: to go back and help other people. Well, what was
Speaker 1: so unique in this path here? Was was strange? Is Uh?
Speaker 1: Some of those people may not know Jesus. Some of
Speaker 1: those people have a lot of influence, and maybe God
Speaker 1: put me here to influence them. I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: put me here to be a person to show what
Speaker 1: God has done. And and I'm not ashamed admit it.
Speaker 1: That's why I said, I don't care who is against
Speaker 1: me right now. I'm not gonna change how I feel
Speaker 1: and what I think. And you know you can tryal
Speaker 1: you won't. Got nothing to do with money, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm not paid to do anything. I never and this
Speaker 1: was interesting about herschel Orker and anyone that ever played
Speaker 1: with me, anyone has ever competed with me, anyone that
Speaker 1: knows me and competed against me. No, I've never done
Speaker 1: anything for money. I never renegotiated a contract and I
Speaker 1: said I'm gonna signed for this. That's what I played for.
Speaker 1: I never went out and and said I'll work more
Speaker 1: than this guy here. What I asked for, that's what
Speaker 1: I wanted, that's what they gave, and I never complained
Speaker 1: about it. I've been blessed, but I also been blessed
Speaker 1: to do the right thing. So that's why when I
Speaker 1: saw the chaos that was started in this country, I said,
Speaker 1: no enough of this, Herchel Walker. I understand for this.
Speaker 1: I cannot stand to see what has happened and then
Speaker 1: turned my backs on people that are suffering. You know,
Speaker 1: I have a voice, and my voice may resonate over
Speaker 1: some people. But at the same time, I want to
Speaker 1: tell the young kids Gods to bring the kids, don't
Speaker 1: to me. Well, I want to tell the young kids,
Speaker 1: you know, don't worry. It's gonna be okay. You know
Speaker 1: you you you don't have no one out there telling
Speaker 1: the kids that. All you're hearing amp telling the kids
Speaker 1: our chaotic it is only in the world It's gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. You know we can. We can get this done.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a calm before the storm, because there
Speaker 1: as a storm that's happening right now and you cannot
Speaker 1: have chaoss going on in this country right now. I
Speaker 1: don't like it. I don't think anyone else like it.
Speaker 1: Probably not percent of the country don't like it. And
Speaker 1: that's what's so important. Something you said really resonated with me.
Speaker 1: And it was about the integrity and which you have
Speaker 1: and what it's kind of led your career. And when
Speaker 1: I think about that, and as you talk about young
Speaker 1: people today, young folks more often than not, especially when
Speaker 1: I'm having this conversation. I wrote a book called Taken
Speaker 1: for Granted, How Conservatism can going back to Americans the
Speaker 1: liberalism failed. And in this book I talked about how
Speaker 1: people would try to make me out to be exceptional.
Speaker 1: They say, you're exceptional, you're successful because you were one
Speaker 1: of the few that were chosen and picked out of
Speaker 1: a group. And I'm like, we're all exceptional. We can
Speaker 1: all be successful. But there's so many people that tell us,
Speaker 1: especially in society today, you can't be successful. The system
Speaker 1: doesn't work. You gotta tear down the system and build
Speaker 1: a new one. And from what I'm hearing, you say, no,
Speaker 1: that's not true. You can be successful, you can win,
Speaker 1: and there's a path that God will create for you.
Speaker 1: And that's exactly right. And that's why they call us faith.
Speaker 1: You ever want to talk about the system like somebody
Speaker 1: is supposed to give you something, and then let me say,
Speaker 1: all thing you're supposed to have in the deliverance of
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ. Who in the world said that they're supposed
Speaker 1: to give you something? Once you to get that deliverance
Speaker 1: of Jesus Christ, you're not looking at what someone is
Speaker 1: supposed to give you, and something that I've gotten upset about.
Speaker 1: I hear so many of these ministers today talking about
Speaker 1: this what's so fun and talking about where is slavery?
Speaker 1: Slavery is still going, And I'm like, Gods, Gods are
Speaker 1: already deliver you out of slavery while you taking yourself
Speaker 1: backs going back there. And I say, I get upset
Speaker 1: because I said, guys, I am totally confused because any
Speaker 1: minister or Bitshop or any one of God that is
Speaker 1: teaching and not teaching about togetherness, not teaching about forgiveness
Speaker 1: because it says that how can you ask your having
Speaker 1: a father to forgive you if you can't forgive your
Speaker 1: fellow man? So why are we thinking about the mass?
Speaker 1: Most of the young people out there today is talking
Speaker 1: about something they have no idea about. And you know
Speaker 1: you said it only on people said you were one
Speaker 1: of these exceptions, and like, guy, know I know about
Speaker 1: savory guys, I've been around the claim. A matter of fact,
Speaker 1: herschel Walker went to a behavior health hospital. I went
Speaker 1: to a behavioralth hospital after playing football because I had
Speaker 1: a problem that I don't know where it stem from.
Speaker 1: I had no clue where this problem stem For first
Speaker 1: of all, I never tasted beer. I never had alcohol
Speaker 1: in my system. I never had a drug. To my sister,
Speaker 1: I don't even take medicine. But when I was getting
Speaker 1: out of football, I had an anger problem that I
Speaker 1: didn't know where that stem from. So I went to
Speaker 1: the hospital to see what was going on with me.
Speaker 1: Where it stem from. Its being bullied as a letter
Speaker 1: kid that I kept all that anger inside and I
Speaker 1: used that as a coping making this to overcome. Well,
Speaker 1: don't say that Herschel is one of those exceptions where
Speaker 1: it was a hersher got down on his bootstraps, plour
Speaker 1: them up and quit complaining about what someone else is doing,
Speaker 1: to start putting myself up. But at the same time
Speaker 1: my forces to help other people as well. So when
Speaker 1: people start saying that you know you're one of them, No,
Speaker 1: no I'm not. We are one of them. Instead of
Speaker 1: looking down, let's start looking up. You know everybody want
Speaker 1: to look down and said what they don't have? Why
Speaker 1: don't you ask what you do have? And we start
Speaker 1: from that because the kids that's out that riding today
Speaker 1: has no clue of what's going on, what the past walk.
Speaker 1: And that's the reason I speak Lord order. People hate
Speaker 1: when I talk about lord order and the reason I
Speaker 1: say that, and don't get upset with me. I grew
Speaker 1: up in the South. I saw I saw police officers
Speaker 1: that they were hired by that uncle. So I mean
Speaker 1: they never went to a police academy. I saw them
Speaker 1: beat African American. I saw them beat the man as
Speaker 1: I was a little boy. So what idea is? I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna educate myself to become a policeman. So I
Speaker 1: don't want that to happen. The more I'm gonna change things.
Speaker 1: That's what people gotta realize. Quit worried about what someone
Speaker 1: else gotta do. Worry about what you're gonna do. So
Speaker 1: I wanted to change things. So I majored in criminal justice.
Speaker 1: I spent time at the FBR academy. I went to
Speaker 1: the police academy. I learned all those things. Now, then
Speaker 1: I later learned all policemen are not bad. There's something
Speaker 1: that are bad. All of them are not bad. You
Speaker 1: know probably nine of good people, but that maybe a
Speaker 1: few that's bad. But you know what's so funny. You
Speaker 1: can train them the same as you can train the
Speaker 1: people to realize you know what you know? You gotta
Speaker 1: quick look at down, want to look up. You know,
Speaker 1: it's the same thing. That's the way that this world is.
Speaker 1: You have, you have good, you have bad. You have
Speaker 1: the positive health of negative but that. But you have
Speaker 1: to work together and make it come together. Yes, sir, yes, sir,
Speaker 1: And I agree with you on a point that you
Speaker 1: made earlier, which I grew up extremely poor on the
Speaker 1: South side of Chicago. Light's guests and water off. At
Speaker 1: the same time, Mama, think the crack cocaine. Now people
Speaker 1: often say, because you said I pulled myself up by
Speaker 1: my bootstraps, people say things like, well, what if you
Speaker 1: don't have any boots. What is your retort to that? Well,
Speaker 1: you know, it's so funny. You may not have boots,
Speaker 1: but you have feet. Hey, if you don't have feet,
Speaker 1: you have a knob. You may only have a nob.
Speaker 1: You have something that comes. You have life. And if
Speaker 1: God has given you life, you got my Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: That man, it's so powerful you can do some amazing things.
Speaker 1: He brought was a little black African American kid out
Speaker 1: of soft Georgia into a world that is bigger than
Speaker 1: I ever known in my whole life. Here, I was
Speaker 1: on a radio show with Darryl Johnson. Daryl Johnson played
Speaker 1: for the Cowboys. You know he's a he's a white guy.
Speaker 1: Fool by incredible fool bit. So Daryl and I are
Speaker 1: on a radio show together and all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: the guy asked me and Daryl, how do we feel
Speaker 1: about the washing risk and change in their name? And
Speaker 1: I said, now, why are you asking a black guy
Speaker 1: and a white guy if the watching risk and should
Speaker 1: change their name? Why don't you ask a Native America?
Speaker 1: Because the problem we have we have these young kids
Speaker 1: talking about slavery when it wasn't even in slavery. I said,
Speaker 1: why don't you go ask a eight it nine, a
Speaker 1: year old citizen that was around during those times. So
Speaker 1: I want to talk to my moms and our eight
Speaker 1: is And what was so interesting My mom is a minister.
Speaker 1: My mom said, you know both my nickname is both.
Speaker 1: She's you know both have their haven't thought about paying
Speaker 1: the white soldiers that died in the Civil War and
Speaker 1: freed you and free to say? Have they thought about
Speaker 1: paying them to talk about reparation? Have they thought about
Speaker 1: paying for that ancestors? Although white soldier that die and
Speaker 1: free to slay? See, they don't want to hear that.
Speaker 1: And then she said, and where where the money go?
Speaker 1: You know, if you talk about reparation, where is the
Speaker 1: money gonna go? She said, you know, times are tough,
Speaker 1: but times are getting better. But she said that that
Speaker 1: is a system, and like, I want to talk about
Speaker 1: this system. There is a system in place that if
Speaker 1: you do the right thing, you could change this system.
Speaker 1: But and I'm gonna talk about athletes. Well they are protesting,
Speaker 1: but not one time had they asked for what is
Speaker 1: the solution during the protest? Herschel, Herschel, I have a
Speaker 1: question that everyone wants to know. So we'll get to
Speaker 1: it right after this break. So we're back, and we
Speaker 1: got the great Herschel Walker here, somebody who's been school
Speaker 1: and so many of us on what the values of
Speaker 1: just traditional values which I call conservative values have done
Speaker 1: for you for your family, which got you to where
Speaker 1: you are today, which I think is such an inspiring story.
Speaker 1: What what is it like? What are you seeing with
Speaker 1: a political landscape today? In let me first say that,
Speaker 1: you know, people got upset when I spoke at the
Speaker 1: convention and I said, uh, I didn't just get in
Speaker 1: politics because I wanted to be a politician. I did
Speaker 1: just just said, oh, man, I want to be in politics.
Speaker 1: Or this is what's so interesting too, Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: just called herschel Walking and said, hersch, I want you
Speaker 1: to speak for me because you're my black friend. Well,
Speaker 1: I've been talking with President Trump for third or seven years,
Speaker 1: even when he was president and I used to talk.
Speaker 1: Not one time has he ever asked herschel Walker to
Speaker 1: speak for him. But when I started seeing all those
Speaker 1: lives Ben told about him, when I started seeing all
Speaker 1: that stuff being said that, I knew that wasn't true.
Speaker 1: But I knew it. But yet this man never asked
Speaker 1: his black friend to speak for him. I said, I
Speaker 1: wanted to speak. I don't even think he knew I
Speaker 1: was gonna even do that, And I said, I want
Speaker 1: to speak. I want to tell the people what I
Speaker 1: know about this man. This man cares about his family.
Speaker 1: A matter of fact, in nineteen eight and five, I
Speaker 1: remember Donald Trump and myself and a reporter front of
Speaker 1: New York Times walking down the street and I said
Speaker 1: to this reporter, as this man could be president of
Speaker 1: the United States of America. In the reason I said
Speaker 1: that is because he loved the United States, South America,
Speaker 1: and I said, who should love in the United States
Speaker 1: of American more than your president of the United States
Speaker 1: South America. And I said, so, I'm confused what people think.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna now be something different. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 1: the truth. You don't have to like it, but that's
Speaker 1: gonna be the truth. And then they brought me into politics,
Speaker 1: and I said, when you bring herst walk into anything,
Speaker 1: you better be ready because what I'm gonna do now
Speaker 1: is to educate myself. So I started to educate myself.
Speaker 1: But I was educating myself before I came into politics
Speaker 1: because one of the things I did is I started
Speaker 1: reading about the Democratic Party. I started reading about the
Speaker 1: Democratic Party and I go, what what are they doing
Speaker 1: for any black person? Not gonna be me? You know,
Speaker 1: I'm like, they kept me in slavery if they wanted
Speaker 1: to keep me there, But what are they doing? I said,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be delivered out of slavery. About Jesus Christ,
Speaker 1: what are they doing for anyone? So I started, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm already out of it. So I was like, so
Speaker 1: they're trying to put me back. So as I started
Speaker 1: educating myself and so looking at the different policies and
Speaker 1: so looking at the different things. And I said, Hershel,
Speaker 1: what if you know? Not that my eyes were open,
Speaker 1: but I said, you know, all my life because I
Speaker 1: was black, and I don't be honest, all my life
Speaker 1: because I was black, I thought I was democratic. I did.
Speaker 1: I thought, Oh no, no one ever told men. I
Speaker 1: just grew up because I heard people talk about it.
Speaker 1: You didn't knowing the neighborhood. You know, in my neighborhood,
Speaker 1: I'm in the country. So the next house next to
Speaker 1: me about five miles away. It ain't like I can
Speaker 1: go next to a ring the doorbell. So I just
Speaker 1: heard that we were a Democrat. So you know, you
Speaker 1: always thought that. So I didn't know any better where
Speaker 1: when I started educating myself as a winner, manu it,
Speaker 1: why don't I learn who's best for the job, who
Speaker 1: is gonna benefit what I believe in? So as I
Speaker 1: was learning this, I said, while this part over here
Speaker 1: seemed to be the one that on the same track
Speaker 1: of what I believe in and what I think this
Speaker 1: country should be. It wasn't just about herschel Walker, because
Speaker 1: it's not about me as an individual. It's about this country.
Speaker 1: Because when you have kids it ain't about you any more,
Speaker 1: was about your child. Because my father was an African
Speaker 1: American Mayne. My mom is an African American woman. My
Speaker 1: father educated his son to make the next step into
Speaker 1: making this country better. Because my father to had the
Speaker 1: great things hersch walkerhead. He worked his tail off and
Speaker 1: put me into position that now I can help my
Speaker 1: son to have something better than me. Well, if I
Speaker 1: vote Democrat, I can tell what he's hot. This is
Speaker 1: under truth. I've seen this now, I mean Washington. I've
Speaker 1: seen what they believe in. I've seen what they do.
Speaker 1: You see the chaos going on today. They don't even
Speaker 1: talk about one of the worst things that happened to me.
Speaker 1: The reason I jumped up out of my seat and
Speaker 1: I got angry is when I saw a BLM sign
Speaker 1: held up by a young kid, and he's burning a
Speaker 1: wholely Bible, burning his flag and burning across And I said, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: that's not the country that I grew up in. That's
Speaker 1: not the country I want to be in. That's not
Speaker 1: the country I want my son to grow up in.
Speaker 1: That's not the country I'm gonna fight for. So they
Speaker 1: gotta go. So I started looking up all this BLM stuff,
Speaker 1: and I was told a shock and I started looking
Speaker 1: at that and they said, guys, you want to get
Speaker 1: hershelwalk in politics. That's your fault. It's not my fault
Speaker 1: because I started educating my set, but educating myself. I
Speaker 1: started studying BLM. And then I started getting upset because
Speaker 1: I see all these companies giving all this money to
Speaker 1: this company that want to destroy the African American family,
Speaker 1: but yet they haven't been held accountable. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: wait a minute, they're more racist by give it mother
Speaker 1: to someone without knowing who they're giving the money too.
Speaker 1: But it's sort of like, you know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. You go to church, you go out
Speaker 1: on Friday night and you parted like a wild quarter,
Speaker 1: like a nine nine and nine, and then all of
Speaker 1: that sudden done it many times, yea all on something
Speaker 1: as you go to church and you pay your ties
Speaker 1: and on money and you go out, and yeah, you
Speaker 1: think that because you're paying your ties, that all that
Speaker 1: is forgiven without being held account That's what I wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you. Do you think that there's a true
Speaker 1: distinction between a group that's a clear organization that founders
Speaker 1: have been training Marxism. We understand that against the nuclear
Speaker 1: family all the things that as conservatives we would naturally oppose,
Speaker 1: not because of the politics of it per se, it's
Speaker 1: more of the ideology of we're pro family, were pro business,
Speaker 1: with pro all these good things and a lot of
Speaker 1: the things that they stand for. Clearly, if you're saying
Speaker 1: it's okay to Luton riot and it's reparations, that's a problem.
Speaker 1: But then there's a group of folks that are young
Speaker 1: who are saying we're against police brutality and racism. Do
Speaker 1: you see the clear distinction between the two. And to
Speaker 1: be honest, I don't tell you no, I don't. And
Speaker 1: limit the reason why BLM the organization don't have an
Speaker 1: office that I know. I've never seen him give us
Speaker 1: sent to colleges. I never seen him give a dime
Speaker 1: to build a school. I never seen him give a
Speaker 1: cent to black businesses. I've never seen him give any money.
Speaker 1: Unless they have they haven't shown to hersal Walker and
Speaker 1: that's my fault. Build in black lives matter. Well. To
Speaker 1: be honest with you, remember earlier I said that any pastor,
Speaker 1: our bishop, or in a man of God is preaching
Speaker 1: separation which is black lives matter. I can't go for
Speaker 1: that because in God's eyes, all lives matter. And what
Speaker 1: I mean by that is why are we separating people today?
Speaker 1: And one thing that's weird is why do I have
Speaker 1: to be a colored man rather than a maybe why
Speaker 1: do I have to be in an Africa American rather
Speaker 1: than just an American? So why are we not saying
Speaker 1: this American? And you know, I go back to I
Speaker 1: was in a talk with a couple of players. You know,
Speaker 1: the athletes called me today sometimes some of them do.
Speaker 1: Still a light man. So I was having one the
Speaker 1: other day. He said, uh, so, uh, the president, what
Speaker 1: has he done for African American? As I started running
Speaker 1: that down for him, I spider Man and quite a
Speaker 1: minute and I stopped running it down. I said, why
Speaker 1: are we worried about what the president has done for blacks?
Speaker 1: He didn't not do that for blacks to get no votes.
Speaker 1: He did it because it was the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: because it was dumb by no one else. Remember when
Speaker 1: he did this, it wasn't about no election. He did
Speaker 1: because it was the right thing to do for African American.
Speaker 1: And it just so happened that no one else in
Speaker 1: the past they did it. Yeah, let me ask you
Speaker 1: this question because a lot of folks have said that
Speaker 1: President Trump is a racist, and clearly you've gone out
Speaker 1: to the r NC and said that that's not true
Speaker 1: you based on your personal relationship. But the question is
Speaker 1: do you think that people should be offended by some
Speaker 1: of the things he said, like when he said, excuse
Speaker 1: my language should hold countries, or any of these other
Speaker 1: things like will get offended by what he says? And
Speaker 1: I'm against PC culture all day. This show as a
Speaker 1: sworn enemy of the politically correct culture where you can't
Speaker 1: just speak your mind and say things. And you know
Speaker 1: him to be, from your personal view, not a racist,
Speaker 1: and clearly he wasn't before he ran for president. Jesse
Speaker 1: Jackson gave him award. But do you think that there's
Speaker 1: some things that he said that people can rightfully be
Speaker 1: offended and say, you know what, that was racist or
Speaker 1: that was wrong. Let me tell you what's so funny.
Speaker 1: This man so far from being a racist than anyone.
Speaker 1: And I remember, I know racism just about listening to
Speaker 1: some of the guys today. If they don't like this president,
Speaker 1: they don't like this president. So everything he does is wrong.
Speaker 1: He on on The Apprentice, he said this here, It's like,
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? It's like, what are this
Speaker 1: man doing for this country? One of the most strongest
Speaker 1: thing I've seen. You just gotta just signed a peace
Speaker 1: treated There's something that I haven't been done. And you
Speaker 1: know what he said, Obama did some peace treatis I
Speaker 1: said he did. This guy is the the greatest guy
Speaker 1: to be president for the United States for right now.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe four years after this he may not be.
Speaker 1: I don't know, someone may come up that may be better.
Speaker 1: But for right now, for the next four years, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump is a man that need to be president. I
Speaker 1: heard sent to Harris called Biden a racist. I heard
Speaker 1: her in the debate say he wasn't prepared and fit
Speaker 1: to be president of the United States, So why is
Speaker 1: she now promoting it to be president of the United
Speaker 1: States of America. You know, I also heard every one
Speaker 1: in the debate, everyone in the debate almost said he
Speaker 1: wasn't fit to be president of the United States, but
Speaker 1: not as supporting it the most powerful man in the country.
Speaker 1: You're supporting a guy that I heard you earlier on
Speaker 1: said he wasn't ready or prepared and after four to
Speaker 1: seven years, he's shown what he is wanting to get
Speaker 1: your thoughts on mental health right after this break with
Speaker 1: with the one and only, the legendary Hershel Walker, please
Speaker 1: stick with us so as as we get back into
Speaker 1: this after you retire from football. You you told us
Speaker 1: that you had some some anger issues, and we know
Speaker 1: that disassociative identity disorder also known as multiple personality disorder,
Speaker 1: and I know you wrote a whole book on it
Speaker 1: and you put it on the cover, and it's something
Speaker 1: I think that you discuss in a way to help
Speaker 1: a lot of people. And that's just to say, because
Speaker 1: you hit this legendary status, that doesn't mean that you're
Speaker 1: a perfect person. We all have our own challenges and
Speaker 1: we deal with things in different ways, even me just
Speaker 1: working for Fox News as a political analyst. People seem
Speaker 1: to see a glow when you get on television and
Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, you can do brain surgery,
Speaker 1: and it's it's not true. We all have our own
Speaker 1: issues and we deal with on a day to day basis.
Speaker 1: We're just looking to work through them and be better
Speaker 1: individuals and better representations of ourselves. You care to elaborate
Speaker 1: on it, a little bit, you know, I do, and
Speaker 1: I tell people we all mentally crazy. I hate to
Speaker 1: tell you we're all mentally creating. Well, what happened to
Speaker 1: herschel Walker is as a little kid, I was bullied.
Speaker 1: I think I mentioned that I was bulleted out, beat up.
Speaker 1: You know, for a four year in my life, I
Speaker 1: never went out for a recess. For four years of
Speaker 1: my life, I never spoke in a classroom. I was
Speaker 1: scared of death. I was scared of my shadow, even though,
Speaker 1: like I said, I didn't say anything in my family
Speaker 1: and I used to get beat up. So when my
Speaker 1: life changed and I started working out, you I became
Speaker 1: a fulatory in my class I overcame so much, but
Speaker 1: I never dealt with all that pain and anger where
Speaker 1: I used athletics as my coping mechanism. Michael Jordan said something.
Speaker 1: He said when I met my zone. He said, I'm superman.
Speaker 1: He's I can do some amazing things. I can jump higher,
Speaker 1: I can run foul. So he said, I can do
Speaker 1: some amazing things. And I said, That's what I'm talking
Speaker 1: about on the basketball court, on a baseball diamond, on
Speaker 1: the football field, being in that zone is okay. But
Speaker 1: if you bring that zone from that field into your
Speaker 1: house or on the streets, you would scared people to death.
Speaker 1: They can't understand, well, I couldn't separate that zone was
Speaker 1: all the time. I was always up here. And it's
Speaker 1: sort of like going to all military service men and women.
Speaker 1: That's why I think the greatest people in the world,
Speaker 1: because they are the true heroes, are first responding, our
Speaker 1: police officers. They're true heroes because they have to go
Speaker 1: into an area where they have to build here all
Speaker 1: the time, and then they have to come home when
Speaker 1: they got their kid and their wife and now they
Speaker 1: got to bring it back down. You know how difficult
Speaker 1: that is, and when you're dealing with different things. After
Speaker 1: what I was dealing with and I said, so I
Speaker 1: went to this this hospital and they helped me to
Speaker 1: understand what was going on. There's a person it's okay.
Speaker 1: And I said, you know what, it's okay. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: overcome because I know I believe in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1: But I know that we have that faith. You're gonna
Speaker 1: be okay. That's what's those trains. Some people become ashamed.
Speaker 1: You know, something happened with Dyke Prescott before the first game,
Speaker 1: Skip Bayless made a statement that Dyke said he went
Speaker 1: down in depression, and Skip Bayss said, you know, being
Speaker 1: a leader or the Dallas Cowboys, you should never tell
Speaker 1: from no one that you depressed. And I said to
Speaker 1: have Skip Butterss, You're so far wrong, because being a
Speaker 1: leader is the one that that you know what, I
Speaker 1: got a problem, but I'm gonna overcome it. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: work to be better. So Dot became a more other leader,
Speaker 1: right mab And you know what, I got a problem,
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna be better. You know, you can't hide it.
Speaker 1: That's the problem most people have. They try to hide
Speaker 1: the problem and deal with it themselves. But you gotta
Speaker 1: turn it over to God. Your hersel Walker crime this
Speaker 1: can you beleeve herseel Walker cry? I cried what I
Speaker 1: fear about a kid? When a kid dies, When a
Speaker 1: kid dies in his bed of a straight bullet of
Speaker 1: people on the street, and yet nobody want to talk
Speaker 1: about it. Nobody want to talk about police officers. Just
Speaker 1: what happened in in California not long ago. These police
Speaker 1: officers get fired up on and people are that protesting,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, where this world coming to? You know,
Speaker 1: it's sort of like what is going on in this country?
Speaker 1: That And then in Washington, we have leaders in Washington
Speaker 1: that won't just come out and say this gotta stop.
Speaker 1: You know, it's gotta stop, you know, not just wait
Speaker 1: just to get a vote and say it's got to stop,
Speaker 1: but saying it's got to stop because it needs to stop. American.
Speaker 1: You remember nine eleven, not eleven. Nine twelve is America.
Speaker 1: When we come together, we come together. We're gonna come
Speaker 1: and it don't matter who we are. Not one look
Speaker 1: at the other and think that he got something more
Speaker 1: than me, he got something better than me. But we
Speaker 1: work together to have me quality, to make each other
Speaker 1: feel bad, but not take not be through violence, not
Speaker 1: think that he got more, and this and that and
Speaker 1: say words it's gonna hurt you and say things because
Speaker 1: you know what kids are looking at us, kids are service.
Speaker 1: My thing is I'll listen to my fellow athletes talk
Speaker 1: about black lives matter, and I know that there are
Speaker 1: some that's sitting on that team that don't believe and
Speaker 1: what management has put on them today. But yet they
Speaker 1: gotta go alone to get along. Because I asked my self,
Speaker 1: when you have if you're a white guy, and all
Speaker 1: they're seeing is Black lives matter. And now you've got
Speaker 1: to go home and you have your six seven year
Speaker 1: old little kids, and you gotta explain to him what
Speaker 1: this BLM mean, not on the field, and you're saying
Speaker 1: Black lives matter, and you're trying to let him know
Speaker 1: that his little friend John and old down the street,
Speaker 1: little African American kid, lives matter. And he trying to
Speaker 1: understand this. Think, wait, my life matter as well, dad.
Speaker 1: You know so that's why I said, you know what,
Speaker 1: we shouldn't have put politics in sports to begin with,
Speaker 1: But because it's there, why don't we educate ourselves on
Speaker 1: what we're doing. Let me ask you this question or
Speaker 1: something you just said here. You said that you believe
Speaker 1: that the management puts things on the players that they
Speaker 1: may not believe. Are you saying that the maybe the
Speaker 1: ownership of the management of the team is forcing people,
Speaker 1: but not forcing on Black lives matter? No, not forcing.
Speaker 1: When the commissioner, remember a couple of years ago, he
Speaker 1: didn't want to have nothing to do with it, and
Speaker 1: he apologized to Cabana when he was right, because my
Speaker 1: problem was, you don't protest in a uniform, in my uniform,
Speaker 1: on your job, you don't protest. You can do it
Speaker 1: outside of that, but he decided now they're gonna let
Speaker 1: him do it inside of their football. So now black
Speaker 1: lives matter become such a big issue. How many players
Speaker 1: on that team may not believe in black lives matter?
Speaker 1: But yet because of pressure, they're not gonna stand up.
Speaker 1: Because I remember having the Drew Brees. These players are
Speaker 1: not gonna stand up because while you stand up today,
Speaker 1: you live labored others a racist. So now they gotta
Speaker 1: go alone to get along with would you have done
Speaker 1: I would have starved for my belief. That's what I
Speaker 1: believe in. You know, this is a Marxist situation here.
Speaker 1: I saw Biden when they visit Wisconsin and they went
Speaker 1: to Jacob Blake. I saw Senator Harris went to Jacob Blake,
Speaker 1: and I said, while they're not going to see the
Speaker 1: called the nine one one, why didn't they gonna see her?
Speaker 1: Because the police were just driving down the street and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden they go, oh wow, that gold
Speaker 1: Jacob Blake and Black let me go over that that
Speaker 1: was a reason they showed up at that place. Why
Speaker 1: did they visit that young age. Why did they visit
Speaker 1: the police? They didn't do that because they wanted to
Speaker 1: keep this chaos going on. They want to keep this
Speaker 1: anger going on because if they visit everyone that they're
Speaker 1: trying to calm the situation. And listen to Biden one day,
Speaker 1: he said, and I remember this that you know, if
Speaker 1: I don't get elected, the chaos keep going on. And
Speaker 1: that said, guys, this was so interesting not to be
Speaker 1: mean the police. Forgive me for this. Biden says things
Speaker 1: that we give him a pass for. He says things
Speaker 1: and people don't ever question them on because he never
Speaker 1: could get questions about a real reporter, but question and
Speaker 1: I'm like, wait a minute, did he not just say
Speaker 1: what I thought he said? Do you think former Vice
Speaker 1: President Biden can talk? They talk car and be talked
Speaker 1: to her people. He can't talk that talk. To be
Speaker 1: a matter of fact, he wasn't even answering that question
Speaker 1: that she was asking. He was answering something that he
Speaker 1: had written down somewhere. He wouldn't even answer me that.
Speaker 1: Of course, he was asking what he wanted to say.
Speaker 1: But she got a follow in that he can never reach.
Speaker 1: So sometimes I say, to all the people that supported
Speaker 1: President Trump, get out in the streets and talk to
Speaker 1: your friends. They talk, you know how to talk. President
Speaker 1: Trump may not be able to talk that talk, and
Speaker 1: people don't understand him because he can't talk the way
Speaker 1: hershel Walker talk in rights Field, Georgia. And just for
Speaker 1: clarification for those who are listening, you're you're referring to
Speaker 1: Cardi b interview and Joe Biden, which was an interview recently,
Speaker 1: and Candice el Wing's. She came out against Cardi B
Speaker 1: and she called her literate, and she said that she
Speaker 1: was dumb, and it became a big fire he became
Speaker 1: a big firestorm. And if I'm hearing you correctly, you're
Speaker 1: saying and that for conservatives especially, and I think this
Speaker 1: is so interesting in the point that we all need
Speaker 1: to take home, especially those who are African American conservatives.
Speaker 1: We need to get out and talk to our friends.
Speaker 1: People who understand us, They understand the dialect, they can
Speaker 1: pull something from the conversation because I believe in the
Speaker 1: Bible like you do. But Love and Connors have out
Speaker 1: drawn these said we're going to approaching individuals and love
Speaker 1: and saying, hey, let me tell you about the party,
Speaker 1: let me tell you about the accomplishments of the conservative movement.
Speaker 1: We can bring in more people into the phote. And
Speaker 1: I think that's a very very salient point you just made,
Speaker 1: and I thank you for that point. What's next for
Speaker 1: herschel Walker? You're just such an interesting figure, your legendary,
Speaker 1: You're riveting. Everyone loves you and and of course the
Speaker 1: president loves you as well. What's next for you? Are
Speaker 1: you joining this cabinet? Are you gonna run for office?
Speaker 1: Are you hiring me? What we're doing? Well? If I
Speaker 1: hired you, you make cost too much? You know, I
Speaker 1: gotta yeah, yeah, I'm not sure. What'sn't it for me?
Speaker 1: I've got to continue to preach, uh, you know that
Speaker 1: I think this needs to be president of the United States.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna run for office. I told people I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna run for office, but I'm gonna continue to
Speaker 1: tell the truth. I'm gonna talk about Americans. And I said, guys,
Speaker 1: this is the greatest country in the world. Even today,
Speaker 1: during this pandemic, we're still the greatest country in the world.
Speaker 1: And people got to realize that. So if we can
Speaker 1: say that like that, that during this pandemic, but still
Speaker 1: the greatest country in the world is. I think you
Speaker 1: got so many old people in Washington that they're they're
Speaker 1: not gonna change their ways. And I think we got
Speaker 1: to get rid of some of those old people. And
Speaker 1: I said something, and people got upset with me about this.
Speaker 1: I said, you know, alc uh is someone that she
Speaker 1: says things I totally disagree with. I totally disagree with
Speaker 1: what she says. But I said, what's great about it?
Speaker 1: She's somebody needs she goes with watching, she somebody news
Speaker 1: says things that you're like, whoa. But then if you
Speaker 1: don't like her, what's great about America? Let's vote out
Speaker 1: the net's go around. And I said, I think we
Speaker 1: need a lot of new people by it, because we
Speaker 1: got so many grandfather and getting grand moms there and
Speaker 1: watch and that you know, then are going to change
Speaker 1: their ways. They've been like this for years. This country
Speaker 1: has been like this for years. People want to said
Speaker 1: this is a Trump America and their food and the
Speaker 1: American people know this country been like this for a
Speaker 1: long time. This ain't Trump America. This is your America.
Speaker 1: They've been here a lot longer. They've been in office
Speaker 1: a lot longer than Trump had only been here for
Speaker 1: three and a half or three and three quarter of
Speaker 1: it of years, So I wish they'd give him four
Speaker 1: more years or he can show the things he can do,
Speaker 1: because you look at the things he has done, not
Speaker 1: just for African America, but for America. That's what natural
Speaker 1: rehearsal walkers just try to get the truth out and
Speaker 1: and just continue to do that, continue to run my companies.
Speaker 1: I've been blessed that I've built a couple of companies
Speaker 1: up and you. I want to give another shout out
Speaker 1: to all military. You know, I have a program called
Speaker 1: Patriot Support where I treat soldiers and we work on
Speaker 1: soldiers on their mental health side, on the behavior health side,
Speaker 1: and for alcohol, drugs, and our first responders. And and
Speaker 1: I just give a shout out to our first responders out.
Speaker 1: I think they have two heroes in well and you know,
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's that's all I have. I'm just
Speaker 1: like I said, I'm just this old country board, don't
Speaker 1: know nothing. I'm just out doing my thing, old country
Speaker 1: board and done good. I want to thank you so
Speaker 1: so much for coming on and speaking with me, your
Speaker 1: inspirations to so many people, and the gravitas in what
Speaker 1: you have, and not just football, but now in politics.
Speaker 1: It's something that I think is gonna really inspire even
Speaker 1: more people as they begin to know who you are.
Speaker 1: The people knew who you were already your legendary, of course,
Speaker 1: but as people rediscover you and see more of you,
Speaker 1: I hope you will give politics a chance. And in
Speaker 1: terms of running, you're running. If you run all this
Speaker 1: I want. I'm running away. You run. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: get to where you are. I have the successful family,
Speaker 1: loving family. I'm looking for a looking for a wife.
Speaker 1: So that's that's what I want to thank again. Thank you,
Speaker 1: thank you, Thank you legendary herschel Walker. Thank you to
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