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Speaker 1: with Nick Eatman, David Hellman, and bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton.
Speaker 1: It is Monday, October twenty third, two Thy seventeen, Season thirteen,
Speaker 1: episode number fifty nine. Welcome to another edition of The Break.
Speaker 1: We're li from the s WBC Mortgage studios at the
Speaker 1: Star and it is a victory Monday. Cowboys get a
Speaker 1: big win yesterday they beat to San Francisco forty nine
Speaker 1: or is forty to ten? Been a while since the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have had that dominating a performance on both sides
Speaker 1: of the ball. And there are lots of things for
Speaker 1: us to get into and talk about. How's everybody feeling
Speaker 1: this morning? Awesome? Awesome, good, the Cowboys gonna win. Dave
Speaker 1: and I are wearing comfy clothes. Yeah, yeah, everything's good.
Speaker 1: You gotta let everybody now we're matching. Yeah. Yeah, the
Speaker 1: flannel got five whole hours of sleep. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: always great. Yes, full hours asleep. Actually, five full hours
Speaker 1: asleep coming off a road trip to the West Coast
Speaker 1: is actually not bad at all. Right, you guys have
Speaker 1: had worse, Anna say. The sad thing is You're right right,
Speaker 1: you guys have had worse. I'm sure. Let's let's talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about some of this stuff. And I
Speaker 1: guess there were so many different things that happened in
Speaker 1: that game, and so many different points. Why don't we
Speaker 1: start first with going around the table? And I want
Speaker 1: to hear everybody's if you had one thing that you
Speaker 1: took from that game that was kind of the storyline
Speaker 1: of the game, the biggest headline of that game, what
Speaker 1: would it be. Let's start with you, Dave saw some
Speaker 1: Cowboys football. Derek ran the ball at will Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: seek stuff. He was ripping off Chunkyard as he took
Speaker 1: a screen pass to the house. The offensive line was
Speaker 1: blowing people off the ball. And yeah, I know that
Speaker 1: the San Francisco forty nine ers are now owen seven,
Speaker 1: but what were they eighteenth against the run going into
Speaker 1: that game, giving up one hundred and eighteen yards per game. Well,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys ran for two hundred and sixty five which
Speaker 1: is the best that an NFL team has done in
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen. So regardless of the opposition, that was impressive.
Speaker 1: It was, it really was, and I think everybody listening
Speaker 1: would agree that that's what they remember watching. Maybe it
Speaker 1: wasn't always two sixty five, but that ability to remove
Speaker 1: the ball on the ground seemingly at will, I think
Speaker 1: is what this team has been missing for the vast
Speaker 1: majority of this season. It was cool to see again, Amber,
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, that would have to be the storyline here.
Speaker 1: But aside from that, one of the things that definitely
Speaker 1: stood out for me was not Jason Witten catch one
Speaker 1: handed catch, and especially because that's a heck of a kiss.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, So especially because during this past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, I mean, I've been getting a ton
Speaker 1: of tweets talking about Jason Witten. Oh maybe he's too
Speaker 1: old now that he can really play at the same
Speaker 1: level he used to. And clearly you got to see
Speaker 1: Jason Witten make a great play right there. Another thing
Speaker 1: that was exciting to me was on the defense side,
Speaker 1: all those sacks that they were able to make, and
Speaker 1: I was sad to not see tackle kind of step
Speaker 1: up because I mean, they gave him the biggest I mean,
Speaker 1: they gave him a big chance here to let him
Speaker 1: play and hopefully make those kind of plays that we've
Speaker 1: all been waiting for. And he wasn't really able to
Speaker 1: do that once again. So that wasn't a great storyline.
Speaker 1: But I went to no, yeah, I started with the
Speaker 1: excited part, but then it turned into yeah, let's talk
Speaker 1: about tackling, and I think it's something worth talking about
Speaker 1: and we will get it. Get into that, Nick, what
Speaker 1: was your big storyline? I think those two said it.
Speaker 1: They ran the ball well, they rushed the quarterback well,
Speaker 1: and you know they they when you get off the
Speaker 1: field on third down and and create and create some turnovers.
Speaker 1: That's the thing that they got. They got turnovers. I
Speaker 1: guess they do come in bunches. So they did a
Speaker 1: nice job there. Um I think I think, if you're
Speaker 1: gonna say one more thing, I mean, just you know,
Speaker 1: you can hate on them all you want, but but
Speaker 1: being an athlete helps. And Jeff Heath, I thought, did
Speaker 1: a really great job of going in there and and
Speaker 1: and you know, making some kicks. Um you know, think about, um,
Speaker 1: how tired you are at to play safety to go
Speaker 1: out there and to make kicks like that, yeah, and
Speaker 1: kick off like that. So I still think they're gonna
Speaker 1: need a kicker obviously, uh if if Dan can't go
Speaker 1: this week, but to know that you have that in
Speaker 1: your in your hip pocket there, it was was a
Speaker 1: good thing. He was saying how nervous he was about
Speaker 1: doing that. I mean he didn't obviously get a lot
Speaker 1: of time to prepare for it or anything. It was
Speaker 1: just like, okay, and you're about to go out there,
Speaker 1: get ready, and it was it was kind of cute
Speaker 1: to listen to him talk. It was cute. He's like,
Speaker 1: you know, I was really nervous, but it was fun.
Speaker 1: And even the first one that hit the poll is
Speaker 1: that how you call it? Yeah, the pole upright, the
Speaker 1: metal part goal put and hit it and still winning.
Speaker 1: He got lucky there, but it was cool. Now. He
Speaker 1: did say he had more fun in that game he's
Speaker 1: had in a long time in football, and it is
Speaker 1: I think when you kind of go back to when
Speaker 1: you played as a younger kid. I'm sure he had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to a lot of different things on Fiel
Speaker 1: because he's probably the best athlete on the field, so
Speaker 1: this was probably just a lot of fun to just
Speaker 1: go out and play football in a lot of different ways.
Speaker 1: Let's back up and talk a little bit about Ezekiel Elliott,
Speaker 1: Dave you mentioned him. He had twenty six carries for
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven yards on the ground a
Speaker 1: five point seven average, two touchdowns on the ground, and
Speaker 1: then had the one big reception for seventy two yards
Speaker 1: and a touchdown. It was the best day statistically of
Speaker 1: his career. And the thing that I thought was most
Speaker 1: interesting is we have been talking a lot over the
Speaker 1: last few weeks about the Cowboys on first downs and
Speaker 1: how they were not getting the kind of production, particularly
Speaker 1: in the running game on first downs. Yesterday, in the
Speaker 1: first half, they had thirteen carries on first down. They
Speaker 1: had eighty seven yards on first down rushes a six
Speaker 1: point seven average. That's what they were doing last year.
Speaker 1: Right in the second half, they had seven carriage for
Speaker 1: thirty eight yards five point four average on first downs. Again,
Speaker 1: that's more of what they were doing last year. I
Speaker 1: think that was really the key to the running game,
Speaker 1: more so than them having the big overall production. It
Speaker 1: was when they were doing it. It was on first downs,
Speaker 1: and then in the second half when they wanted to
Speaker 1: put the game away. They were running at will. What'd
Speaker 1: you guys think? I agree with that. The other thing though,
Speaker 1: for me, and I don't know if I ever bought
Speaker 1: into the storyline that Zeke was slow, overweight, or lost
Speaker 1: a step, but I think you can go back and
Speaker 1: find a lot of instances where he just wasn't running
Speaker 1: decisively and with a clear plan in mind for what
Speaker 1: he wanted to do. And I thought he didn't look
Speaker 1: like that yesterday. I mean, I think the very one
Speaker 1: of the very first players of the game, the middle
Speaker 1: was clogged and he kind of did his little jump
Speaker 1: cut and bounced it around tackle and turned what could
Speaker 1: have been a one or two yard game into six
Speaker 1: or seven. And that's what he did so well last year,
Speaker 1: and I think hasn't done as well this year. But
Speaker 1: you saw that yesterday. He just I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: the cliche is like running angry or whatever whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call it. He he just seemed decisive. He
Speaker 1: knew what he wanted to do, he knew where he
Speaker 1: needed to take the ball in all situations. How much
Speaker 1: do you think that is a product of this offensive line?
Speaker 1: Because number one, the offensive line played great yesterday, especially
Speaker 1: in the running game, you don't run that much without
Speaker 1: them playing great. But I do think of all the units,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this a lot, of all the
Speaker 1: units on the team, the offensive line is the group
Speaker 1: where it is way more important for them to work
Speaker 1: as a group than even as individuals. And they had
Speaker 1: two of their five pieces being new. Do you think
Speaker 1: that maybe a part of what we're seeing, at least
Speaker 1: yesterday and what you really started to see towards the
Speaker 1: end of the game in Green Bay, is that maybe
Speaker 1: this offensive lines getting to a point where it's starting
Speaker 1: to gel enough to where it does allow situations was
Speaker 1: he can be more decisive because he knows what's going
Speaker 1: to happen when it's going to happen. Well, I think
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper that they found a little something there. I
Speaker 1: don't think they're going to go back to chas Green
Speaker 1: anytime soon, or I mean, you know, this is Cooper
Speaker 1: starting to get a little bit more comfortable. And I
Speaker 1: think coming off I think you saw the difference really
Speaker 1: the last three games with the Cowboys. You see a
Speaker 1: difference of teams that are that are fatigued and teams
Speaker 1: that have rest. And I mean that's just kind of
Speaker 1: the way it is. If you don't, we're not gonna
Speaker 1: sit here and say it was an excuse. But the
Speaker 1: Rams and Packers both had more time off than the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and you know, I think I think that helped. And
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys were fresh in this game. The
Speaker 1: offensive line looked good and they were healthy as well.
Speaker 1: That's a big part of it. And you know, the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers are a team that that's played now
Speaker 1: sixth straight or seventh straight games, and they played a
Speaker 1: lot of these close games and you know, the bottom
Speaker 1: just kind of fell out for them. So I think
Speaker 1: that that is a real thing in the NFL. We've
Speaker 1: seeing the Cowboys on both sides of it. And we'll
Speaker 1: see how much that matters this week because your next team,
Speaker 1: Washing Redskins, are going to play tonight and then turn
Speaker 1: around and play the Cowboys on Sunday. We'll see if
Speaker 1: that day makes a difference in their preparation in them
Speaker 1: being physically their games in Philly. Right, yes, yes, the
Speaker 1: road tonight, Ye, that takes like an hour or something
Speaker 1: to get I guess do they drive for something like
Speaker 1: that train maybe? I don't know. Before well, before we
Speaker 1: get too far away from Zeke, I just with how
Speaker 1: boring this team can be quote wise, sometimes things really
Speaker 1: jump out to me, which it jumps out when a
Speaker 1: Cowboys player like Willing, like Willfully, of his own volition,
Speaker 1: brings up another game, you know, like it's usually the
Speaker 1: media that does that. I don't want to compare players.
Speaker 1: I don't want to compare games. So the media asked
Speaker 1: Zeke last night, you know, this is the this is
Speaker 1: the most that you looked like twenty sixteen. Do you
Speaker 1: think that's fair? Is this the closest you've looked to
Speaker 1: what you looked like last year? And Zeke's said, I
Speaker 1: think it was we saw the Packers game before the bye.
Speaker 1: We saw in the Packers game before the bye, the
Speaker 1: offense really started clicking in the fourth quarter and the
Speaker 1: running games started to open up. And I think we
Speaker 1: carried that over to today. Yeah. I mean, you don't
Speaker 1: need him to tell you that you saw with your
Speaker 1: own eyes. But anytime a player says something like that,
Speaker 1: I think it carries a little more weight. Like I said, especially,
Speaker 1: you know, players go out of their way to be
Speaker 1: so boring. So and eighty five yards in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: two hundred and sixty five yards yesterday. So again, I
Speaker 1: mean consider the opposition, but that's not I mean, the
Speaker 1: front seven is not the worst part about the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, So I think you have to
Speaker 1: view that as a really big positive heading into what
Speaker 1: is a really tough stretch of games coming up here.
Speaker 1: So yeah, and the two new offensive lineman I thought
Speaker 1: yesterday in particular, are there were specific moments in that
Speaker 1: game when I saw both of them make some really
Speaker 1: nice blocks, both by all Collins and Jonathan Cooper. And
Speaker 1: if they get to the point where they're really working
Speaker 1: well in tandem with those other three guys, now I
Speaker 1: think you're onto something. If you remember back to training camp,
Speaker 1: one of the things I was really interested to see
Speaker 1: was Jonathan Cooper. I mean, people forget he was a
Speaker 1: first round pick, like you put him with other first
Speaker 1: round picks. Maybe he hadn't lived up to that in
Speaker 1: other places. People forget that, well, maybe they do. I
Speaker 1: don't know if fans, I don't know if fans really
Speaker 1: think about that. They think of Jonathan Cooper as it
Speaker 1: has they think of not a shot it has been.
Speaker 1: They think of Jonathan Cooper as a guy that isn't
Speaker 1: really that great, right, And I don't. I still don't
Speaker 1: think they put him in the category of the first
Speaker 1: round picks that are on this offensive line, and may
Speaker 1: I think you're rewriting that story a little bit. I
Speaker 1: think the story about Jonathan Cooper when he got here
Speaker 1: was this guy was a top ten pick. Talking about
Speaker 1: when he got here, I'm talking about as of this
Speaker 1: training camp, he still wasn't a starter, and I don't
Speaker 1: think most people were thinking that he was going to
Speaker 1: be the starter at that point. So no one says
Speaker 1: four first round picks. Yeah, no, they don't. But they
Speaker 1: somebody they say, if the storyline around Jonathan Cooper since
Speaker 1: he got here and through training camp was if there's
Speaker 1: a line that can bring out that talent in him,
Speaker 1: it's probably this one. I'm just saying, we don't have
Speaker 1: to get into an argument about it. I think I
Speaker 1: think the point is. The point I'm trying to make
Speaker 1: is that this offensive line with Jonathan Cooper. To me,
Speaker 1: maybe you can see the first rounder in Jonathan Cooper.
Speaker 1: You put him with these other guys, and maybe that's
Speaker 1: what you're starting to see a glimpse of. They still
Speaker 1: got a little ways to go. But that's maybe what
Speaker 1: you're starting to see a glimpse of. I actually asked,
Speaker 1: I talked to Jonathan Cooper last night. I'm gonna write
Speaker 1: a story about it later just as a teaser, but
Speaker 1: I was like, you think, you know, obviously this is
Speaker 1: your third start, it probably helps that you know, you
Speaker 1: know what Tyrn's gonna do, and you know what Travis
Speaker 1: is gonna do a little bit better. And he's like, oh, whoa,
Speaker 1: they know what I'm gonna do. Like, let's you know,
Speaker 1: those are two of the best players in the league,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, working with them this experience helps
Speaker 1: them help me more so than I'm helping them. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, it looks like it's certainly starting to clip
Speaker 1: for them. All right, let's let's move on. Let's talk
Speaker 1: about Dak Prescott. Yesterday, he has stat line of so
Speaker 1: you go, sixteen of twenty five, sixty four percent completion rate,
Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty four yards, three touchdowns, one hundred
Speaker 1: and thirty four passer rating, and then also rushes four
Speaker 1: times for twenty six yards and a touchdown. Overall, I thought,
Speaker 1: this is the vintage what you want to see from Dak,
Speaker 1: primarily because the running game was so good. He didn't
Speaker 1: throw too much, but when he had to, made some
Speaker 1: plays and then made a few plays with his with
Speaker 1: his legs as well. Yeah, I mean it's there's no
Speaker 1: secret that Zeke's the one that's that's driving this busum
Speaker 1: and you know, seventy two yards of that is because
Speaker 1: of him. I mean he throws a screen pass there,
Speaker 1: but but that that is kind of that is set
Speaker 1: up by the fact that they could run the ball.
Speaker 1: And I thought Dak did a nice job but just
Speaker 1: kind of managing the game. I mean, there's nothing wrong
Speaker 1: with being the game manager. There really isn't. And you
Speaker 1: can have good stat lines, it doesn't mean you're not
Speaker 1: a good fantasy quarterback. And that I think he does
Speaker 1: it really well. He manages the game well, and he's
Speaker 1: okay with throwing in complete passes when the sack is
Speaker 1: is about to happen, and he knows where to find
Speaker 1: an eligible receiver and throw it at their feet. I mean,
Speaker 1: I think he avoids sax he avoids bad plays pretty well.
Speaker 1: So I thought overall he had really a nice game.
Speaker 1: That's I mean, yeah, you said it, that's how you
Speaker 1: want Dak to play and we've seen that he can
Speaker 1: kind of put the team on his back a little
Speaker 1: more so than he had to. But it doesn't that's
Speaker 1: not necessarily going to be good because that's not how
Speaker 1: you want this offense to play. Like he completed sixteen passes,
Speaker 1: I don't think he threw the ball more than twelve
Speaker 1: or fifteen yards downfield. I mean, how did he was
Speaker 1: His touchdown to winning was eighteen Yeah, so maybe the
Speaker 1: longest one and that just had a longer one than
Speaker 1: that though, but it wasn't. It wasn't. It was like
Speaker 1: twenty seven yards, but most of it was running. It's
Speaker 1: that's exactly and it's not that Dak can't do that stuff.
Speaker 1: That's not the conversation. It's that that's how you want
Speaker 1: to play offense. If you want to set things up
Speaker 1: with the run, you want the defense not know him
Speaker 1: for sure what's going to happen. You want to miss
Speaker 1: direct and then he can make plays on the ground
Speaker 1: as well. That's I mean, that's exactly how you want
Speaker 1: Dak to play in this offense. However, the most interesting
Speaker 1: thing is if you go back and you look at
Speaker 1: the numbers in the first half before the game was
Speaker 1: out of hand, it actually was much closer to a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty split. There was nineteen pass I mean nineteen
Speaker 1: rushes seventeen passes. So in the earth, this could have
Speaker 1: easily have been a game. Let's say they were playing
Speaker 1: a team where like Green Bay, where they got to
Speaker 1: score a lot. This could have easily been a game
Speaker 1: where he threw as much as they ran, or maybe
Speaker 1: even more, just depending on how the game went. But
Speaker 1: the beautiful part is again the running game was working
Speaker 1: on first downs, and in the second half they had
Speaker 1: a lead, and the running game was actually effective in
Speaker 1: the second half, so they really could put the game away.
Speaker 1: And you know, I don't even think of the play
Speaker 1: calling like the balance in terms of, you know, whether
Speaker 1: they're playing the way they want to play. They were
Speaker 1: averaging six yards per carry at halftime. That's the difference.
Speaker 1: And you mentioned the stat about running on first down.
Speaker 1: You're giving Dak second and fives and second and fours
Speaker 1: and ones. It's that, I mean, this isn't an offense
Speaker 1: that's meant to be converting long distances, and they don't
Speaker 1: have to when they're running that way, nor our most
Speaker 1: offenses around the league. You you get teams in second, third,
Speaker 1: and long and typically you're going to be able to
Speaker 1: get them off the field if your defense I can
Speaker 1: do that if they don't have Aaron right, if your
Speaker 1: defense con manage to do that. Okay, let's take our
Speaker 1: first break. When we come back, I want to dive
Speaker 1: a little bit deeper into this defense and what they
Speaker 1: were able to do yesterday. We give them a lot
Speaker 1: of a lot of We talk about them quite a
Speaker 1: bit and usually not positive, but yesterday they showed some
Speaker 1: really positive signs in a couple of different areas that
Speaker 1: we should talk about. We'll do that when we come
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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It's the second segment of the Break Lifes.
Speaker 1: WBC mortgage studios were talking about the Cowboys a big win.
Speaker 1: They beat the San Francisco forty nine ers in San Francisco.
Speaker 1: Forty to ten was the final score before we move
Speaker 1: on to the defense. Though I didn't need to bring
Speaker 1: this up. Ezekiel Elliott this morning found out some good
Speaker 1: news about this coming week in the game as far
Speaker 1: as his case is legal case is concerned. Nick, If
Speaker 1: you guys want to give us a little bit of
Speaker 1: insight into the news on that. Yeah, Judge, I don't
Speaker 1: was it judge failure? Was it? She's the one that's
Speaker 1: on the NFL requested to expedite his hearing to this
Speaker 1: week so that they could get this matter sort out
Speaker 1: before the Cowboys played Washington. That's not going to happen.
Speaker 1: The federal court denied that request. Zeke's hearing on his
Speaker 1: tro is scheduled for October thirtieth at five FT. This
Speaker 1: is on the injunction. Yeah, not the tro correct. I
Speaker 1: just want to make sure you're right. The hearing to
Speaker 1: whether or not to grant the injunction yes, is on thirtieth,
Speaker 1: which means the tro is going to go the full
Speaker 1: fourteen days, which means Zeke will be on the field
Speaker 1: in Washington on Sunday. And assuming and I guess after
Speaker 1: we had the conversation with Daniel last week, in the
Speaker 1: event that the judge doesn't have a ruling immediately there
Speaker 1: from the bench, then would they need to extend the
Speaker 1: tr at that point I believe so, yes, Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: a good point, and I would imagine he also said,
Speaker 1: you know, this probably won't be a forty five minute
Speaker 1: this will probably be hours and hours or you know whatever,
Speaker 1: which the reporter and me, I'm like, oh, great, a
Speaker 1: hearing at five pm. That'll take several hours. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: goes here. Even they hope you have anything playing there?
Speaker 1: Definitely not um but by the NFL, it's just kind
Speaker 1: of ironic. Really. It's like it's like, and guys will
Speaker 1: know this when they're waiting and they're waiting on somebody
Speaker 1: to get ready, and they take forever forever. You hate
Speaker 1: that as much forever and then and then you finally
Speaker 1: get in the car and then they're wondering why you're
Speaker 1: not going faster and why why why you're late, And
Speaker 1: it's like the NFL is gonna wait for thirteen months
Speaker 1: and now they want to speed up the process, like
Speaker 1: why why is this taking so long? Like this is
Speaker 1: all on them. So it's just kind of funny how
Speaker 1: now now things aren't moving fast enough for the NFL.
Speaker 1: Good point, YEA I didn't. I'm not married, so I
Speaker 1: didn't really Well, by then he was in their hands.
Speaker 1: They had control over it. Right now it's out of
Speaker 1: their hands. They never thought that that would take it
Speaker 1: this far. They just thought they would just kind of
Speaker 1: take it and then like, oh, now you know the
Speaker 1: season is gonna start and you're gonna miss games. If
Speaker 1: they really thought that, if they couldn't see this coming,
Speaker 1: then they are stupid and don't deserve the salaries that
Speaker 1: they make. And I'll gladly take some of that money.
Speaker 1: They just big they they whoever that is? Yeah, I agree.
Speaker 1: I agree with you. If you didn't see this coming
Speaker 1: after what happened with Brady last year, you had to
Speaker 1: know this was going to continue to be the way
Speaker 1: that players found remedy. A guy that situation, a guy
Speaker 1: who wasn't charged with a crime, was just gonna take
Speaker 1: six games worth of no checks and that label he
Speaker 1: was Yeah no, why would he fight that? Yeah? Um? Anyway, So,
Speaker 1: but Ezekiel Elliott will be on the field on Sunday
Speaker 1: against Washington. Still don't know beyond that, so stick with us,
Speaker 1: But he will be playing against the Redskins. This maybe
Speaker 1: a week two week thing. It is. It has been
Speaker 1: all year. It's been. The one thing I will say, though,
Speaker 1: is when we get to this, to this injunction hearing, um,
Speaker 1: I would assume once they make a decision there, then
Speaker 1: you kind of yourself, assuming it falls in Zeke's favor,
Speaker 1: to where he's allowed to play until the point that
Speaker 1: they have a resolution in court, you would assume that
Speaker 1: this probably gets you through the rest of the season,
Speaker 1: because then it actually is waiting until the actual court case,
Speaker 1: and that I assume is going to take a while
Speaker 1: to get through the courts. Right. I don't want to
Speaker 1: speak definitively about something I barely understand, but based on
Speaker 1: my very basic understanding, I think if he's granted this injunction,
Speaker 1: it probably means he'll be available until the end of
Speaker 1: the year or through the end of the year. Right.
Speaker 1: So the interesting part will be what happens in the
Speaker 1: event that this thing gets to January. And let's assume
Speaker 1: for a second the Cowboys are in the playoffs. That
Speaker 1: becomes sticky if you have the case then and then
Speaker 1: it rules against him. Alfred Morris super Bowl MVP. Next question,
Speaker 1: Let's go orry about that when we get there. We
Speaker 1: will worry about that when we get there. Hopefully it
Speaker 1: doesn't happen this year, and hopefully this is something that
Speaker 1: if he's gonna have to serve the suspension at this point,
Speaker 1: hopefully it's just next year and just kind of deal
Speaker 1: with that twenty eighteen problem knowing that it's coming. All right,
Speaker 1: let's let's jump into the talk on the defense. Um.
Speaker 1: As I said before the break, we've talked a lot
Speaker 1: about the defense. Rarely hasn't been in positive terms. There
Speaker 1: are a few guys that we've talked about positively. But yesterday,
Speaker 1: I think they put it all together, and really it
Speaker 1: was the interesting thing. They got the sacks. They've been
Speaker 1: getting sacks all year, but they had five sacks yesterday.
Speaker 1: The big thing I think that was critical that they
Speaker 1: haven't been getting regularly is the turnovers, and yesterday they
Speaker 1: got three of those turnovers and the offense didn't turn
Speaker 1: it over at all. Gotta think that that's a really
Speaker 1: big positive step for this defense. Correct. Yeah, and special teams,
Speaker 1: I mean started on special teams. They did a nice
Speaker 1: job and knocked in the ball out there, and and
Speaker 1: you know I thought, I mean, DeMarcus Lawrence continues to
Speaker 1: play just out of his mind, and you know that
Speaker 1: that right there is one of those plays that I
Speaker 1: think that you know, high school coaches would want to
Speaker 1: put on highlight tape and show their their players on
Speaker 1: from a motor standpoint, you know, getting off the edge,
Speaker 1: making the play, going down, getting up getting the ball.
Speaker 1: I just thought that that was just a great play
Speaker 1: all the way around and then taking it all the
Speaker 1: way and then taking it all just in case he
Speaker 1: would have run all the way to la if if
Speaker 1: it was open there. You know, I love that After
Speaker 1: the game in the press in the locker room, he
Speaker 1: was like, look, man, I had like thirty something rushes.
Speaker 1: I'm supposed to get at least one. I mean, like,
Speaker 1: I think I should have more. You know, It's like
Speaker 1: his mentality is such that I'm not really happy one
Speaker 1: nine and a half I have right now for the season.
Speaker 1: I really think I can get more, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to see that in players that It's not really like
Speaker 1: there are a lot of guys that be leading the
Speaker 1: league in sacks thinking hey, this is great. I'm the
Speaker 1: best in the league at what I do, and that
Speaker 1: doesn't seem to be as we got guys happy about
Speaker 1: catching the ball. I mean elaborate, just saying I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, there were some some players on the team
Speaker 1: that were excited about catching the ball on a fast
Speaker 1: that didn't count. But but they caught it and made
Speaker 1: a nice play and didn't get their feet. I was
Speaker 1: but pretty excited about it. I was lost, and now
Speaker 1: I would I'm found, Yeah, pretty excited. I don't think
Speaker 1: we need to let everybody. We don't need to elaborate.
Speaker 1: Let's just go back it all, just go East Raggs
Speaker 1: down there on the on the sidelines. Yeah, it's good.
Speaker 1: It was a good play. It was a good Uh.
Speaker 1: Far be it from me to suggest that DeMarcus Lawrence
Speaker 1: is solely motivated by money, because he actually, I mean
Speaker 1: he said last week he's not really worried about his contract.
Speaker 1: Uh you know, if the team wins, everything will take
Speaker 1: care of itself, all that good stuff. But he has
Speaker 1: to know what's at stake if he keeps playing like that.
Speaker 1: And I was suggesting that we did no, no, no no.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is I wouldn't be satisfied by
Speaker 1: one sack either. I'm be like, yeah, let's get this,
Speaker 1: let's get these numbers up, this contract talk, let's go.
Speaker 1: He's he's headed. He's headed towards a game called tag. Yep,
Speaker 1: I don't and you know, I honestly don't know if
Speaker 1: or a guy like him, what is the tag? Oh
Speaker 1: I looked this up a couple weeks ago. I want
Speaker 1: to say, it's like eighteen millions or a defensive end
Speaker 1: or something like that. It might that might be, It
Speaker 1: might be, it might be fifteen. It's high. Is he
Speaker 1: one of those guys you think that would hold out
Speaker 1: if if they tagged him? That's hard to predict, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't honestly franchise tag is. So it's so hard
Speaker 1: to predict, and it's so divisive. Depends on the gy.
Speaker 1: Some guy's a hardcore like I don't want the tag,
Speaker 1: and I will do whatever. Some of them will say,
Speaker 1: you're gonna guarantee me eighteen Yeah, okay, I mean look
Speaker 1: at Dwayne Brown out in Houston. He just reported today. Right,
Speaker 1: that's one end of the spectrum. And then you've got
Speaker 1: the quarterback Kirk Cousins, who has gone on, had taken
Speaker 1: the ket tag for a few years and been like,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna pay me that much for a year,
Speaker 1: bring it on. I'll take it right, it's betting on
Speaker 1: your so you just never know. You never know. The
Speaker 1: funny thing, I mean, the franchise tag was created for
Speaker 1: guys like DeMarcus Lawrence, like he's had an up and
Speaker 1: down career. He had he had not prior to this year,
Speaker 1: lived up to the billing of a top forty pick.
Speaker 1: He's been injured and back injuries, which we've talked about
Speaker 1: at length, which are scary and persistent suspensions that forgot about.
Speaker 1: That suspended across the board is a guy that you
Speaker 1: probably would not feel comfortable giving a big money extension to,
Speaker 1: and now he's playing like the best defensive end in
Speaker 1: the league. That's why they got to make a decision.
Speaker 1: That is why they created this in the first place,
Speaker 1: so that you can reward him for being great without
Speaker 1: giving him that kind of guarante. He gave me one year,
Speaker 1: I'm going to give you one year. And but the
Speaker 1: thing is is logically it makes all the sense in
Speaker 1: the world. But if DeMarcus doesn't want to play under
Speaker 1: the tag, you can't force him to. So there's no
Speaker 1: way to predict that. It's way too early in the
Speaker 1: year to even I mean, who knows, for all we
Speaker 1: know he could finish with as many sacks as he
Speaker 1: has right now. I mean it's hard to predict. I
Speaker 1: don't think that'll happen. But even if he does nine
Speaker 1: and a half sacks, great point should suggest he's going
Speaker 1: to get a decent contract if he's allowed to become
Speaker 1: a free agent. I would imagine that I'll be in
Speaker 1: mobile in Indianapolis badgering the Jones Is about this. That's
Speaker 1: my that's all. I feel comfortable predicting that the biggest
Speaker 1: free agent they had that year, no doubt. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm trying to Anthony Hitchins's probably number two, and that's
Speaker 1: not even in the same stratosphere. I think. I do
Speaker 1: think he's important. Well, Bryce Butler, Bryce Butler, I mean
Speaker 1: it's kind of a big deal. DJ duffelback, No, all right,
Speaker 1: I can't sell you on that. Hey, Rice is doing
Speaker 1: a really good show for us right now. So I'm
Speaker 1: actually got one miss stick around because I like the show.
Speaker 1: But we'll see. Um. Yeah, I can't think of anybody
Speaker 1: that comes close to DeMarcus in terms of free agency importance. Um. Anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: so that's all fun stuff we'll be able to talk
Speaker 1: about later in the year. All right, Um, let's move on.
Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about Dan Bailey. He uh kicks
Speaker 1: a couple I think it was a couple extra points
Speaker 1: early in the Oh yeah, you're right, yeah too extra right? Yeah?
Speaker 1: And uh and then all of a sudden, the Cowboys
Speaker 1: score touchdown and they're going for two. I know. For me,
Speaker 1: I'm like, why are they what's going on? Why would
Speaker 1: you go for two in this situation? Then we find
Speaker 1: out it's so that he's that he's that he's out
Speaker 1: with a groin injury. It's so funny, like how like
Speaker 1: we're we're the media, like we're we're there, We're there.
Speaker 1: And literally my best friend shouts out. Meg texted me
Speaker 1: and she's like, what's wrong with Dan? I'm watching it
Speaker 1: right Where where is he? They say he's hurt. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I have no idea what talking about. I'm literally in
Speaker 1: the press box. I thought he was fine. I just
Speaker 1: thought they decided to go for two. So uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was surreal. Um, and that happens pretty regularly, seriously, Like, well,
Speaker 1: people are telling me things that I should that I
Speaker 1: should be able to see, but we can't see them
Speaker 1: from the press box. We are often the last people
Speaker 1: to hear this stuff. Yeah, but he's he missed the
Speaker 1: part of game with the growing uh. Nick, you talked about, Um,
Speaker 1: Heath going in and kicking out. I thought, for a
Speaker 1: guy that's a if it's a back, they had to
Speaker 1: be called into emergency duty. Did quite well, especially on kickoffs,
Speaker 1: and then also had the two extra points missed one,
Speaker 1: but he had two that he hit. Um. But really,
Speaker 1: the I think the story here is what goes on
Speaker 1: at this point? Where do we what do we know?
Speaker 1: Do we know anything about the status of his injury
Speaker 1: at this point now, not that I know. I don't
Speaker 1: know if they've even looked at him yet. He probably
Speaker 1: it's third day off, but now he is, he's required
Speaker 1: to come in. So I'm sure that they'll get a
Speaker 1: good idea on it. But I would imagine that this
Speaker 1: is probably bad news for Kellen Moore. That's that's what
Speaker 1: I would suggest, because because they have to get a kicker.
Speaker 1: There's no way you can have three quarterbacks and two
Speaker 1: kickers on your team. I don't think that this this
Speaker 1: roster is built for that. So um, I just the
Speaker 1: fact that they brought in Cooper Rush to play and
Speaker 1: he got a chance to do some stuff. I don't
Speaker 1: know if Jason Gett was predicting a thirty point blowout
Speaker 1: and that's why he wanted him in the up there,
Speaker 1: But I just I would think that this week you
Speaker 1: got to go out and get a kicker. Just I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know who's out there. There is
Speaker 1: no update on a timetable or anything like that. But
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett he does his radio hit every morning after
Speaker 1: the game, which is impossibly early considering we all got
Speaker 1: back at one o'clock in the morning. But he did
Speaker 1: say that they're going to work out some kickers this week.
Speaker 1: So I mean, but like Nick said, I mean, even
Speaker 1: if he's theoretically okay to play on Sunday, you can't
Speaker 1: just wait around and hope that that's going to happen.
Speaker 1: You need a kicker for the Washington game. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: you need to. You just need to have somebody you
Speaker 1: know you're not gonna I mean, it's not like a
Speaker 1: wide receiver where it's like, all right, well that we
Speaker 1: looked at him all week and Dez can't go, so
Speaker 1: Noah browns up. It's like, if you don't have a kicker,
Speaker 1: then you don't have a kicker. So yeah, I think
Speaker 1: they're gonna work some guys out this week. You know
Speaker 1: there are guys out there, I'm sure, And then there
Speaker 1: are probably some older guys that are pretty good at
Speaker 1: making field goal kicks. For you. They might be older,
Speaker 1: but you know, I would think if you got a
Speaker 1: guy that's a pretty good kicker but he doesn't kick
Speaker 1: off that well, I would think that you you lean
Speaker 1: that way anyways, you just give me a guy that
Speaker 1: can make some kicks, because if I have to, I
Speaker 1: can put Jeff Heath out there to kick the kick
Speaker 1: off off. I mean, it's not gonna be great, but
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it was you. But people in the
Speaker 1: press box were joking before Heath's first kick off, like, well,
Speaker 1: this will go to the thirty I did. I thought
Speaker 1: it would go to the twenty five yard line. I
Speaker 1: didn't think this is going to look like a high
Speaker 1: school game and clearly not like that. That might have
Speaker 1: been more impressive than hitting a couple of extra points.
Speaker 1: Really like, he had two touchbacks and then the ones
Speaker 1: that he had that weren't touch backs bounced down inside
Speaker 1: the ten yards were they were hard to yeah and yeah,
Speaker 1: and guy bobbled one of them like, way to go, Jeff.
Speaker 1: But would you guys not worry about repetitive motion for
Speaker 1: a guy that's not used to doing that? I mean
Speaker 1: that I would. I would worry a little bit about
Speaker 1: his leg getting sore and you need him to run
Speaker 1: and so because he's not accustomed to the rig years
Speaker 1: of doing that over and over again, does that become
Speaker 1: a problem. Well, they're not always going to score forty points.
Speaker 1: That's a good point, kick off really good. Ideally you'll
Speaker 1: just sign a kicker that can do both, you know.
Speaker 1: But if they're out there, yeah, are they? I don't?
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there's there's guys supposed to be kickers.
Speaker 1: Is Roberto Is Roberto Aguio about to be oh that road?
Speaker 1: Is there a long list of definitively, I would bet you.
Speaker 1: I would bet you there's some kicker out there that's
Speaker 1: a veteran kicker that's had some success in this league,
Speaker 1: that's right now sitting on his couch waiting for somebody
Speaker 1: to call it. Seems like Dave Hey Saint super Bowl
Speaker 1: Hero Garrett. There's some there's some guys out right now.
Speaker 1: The Aguio has been horrible since he's gotten in the NFL.
Speaker 1: I mean he's a first round what was the first
Speaker 1: round kicker? Second half? Did they cut folk? Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: on I R. I think that would happened. He's not
Speaker 1: their kicker anymore. I don't know if he's on I
Speaker 1: R or not. Don't know. I might be on IR. Well.
Speaker 1: Just like you can get two peaky with who you
Speaker 1: can get, you have to get you. I'm gonna step out.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna step out on a limb right now and say,
Speaker 1: like four guys are gonna work out here on like Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and Roberto Aguayo is gonna be one of them. I
Speaker 1: don't have any inside in Dave, don't even put that
Speaker 1: in the atmosphere, Like, no, the guy's been horrible. He
Speaker 1: I know he's been horrible. He's also like physically he's
Speaker 1: he's got to be the most physically talent kicker on
Speaker 1: the street, right But the problem is Aguayo's He's a
Speaker 1: guy you pick up if you want to develop, if
Speaker 1: you want to give a kicker a chance to grow
Speaker 1: right right now. They need a kicker for right now
Speaker 1: to get him through whatever number of games if they're
Speaker 1: gonna be any games when their kicker is gonna be
Speaker 1: out because guess what, as soon as Bailey's back, they're
Speaker 1: getting rid of him. So you don't want a guy
Speaker 1: that's that's got some issues and you got to help
Speaker 1: him work through those issues because that didn't help you. Now.
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm just I just got a feeling. We'll
Speaker 1: see if I'm right. I don't know, he's don't nick
Speaker 1: you you mentioned that you thought this might be bad
Speaker 1: for Keller more. Would it also maybe be a situation
Speaker 1: where you just brought up ash You probably didn't need to.
Speaker 1: We talked about it last week. You've been running with
Speaker 1: three defensive tackles most of the year. You don't necessarily
Speaker 1: need to have that extra body. Could they could Richard
Speaker 1: ashe be a guy that they just you know, cut again,
Speaker 1: get him back to the practice squad hopefully. I don't
Speaker 1: think so. Number one, he played a lot in the game.
Speaker 1: He played pretty well. I don't I don't think, um
Speaker 1: that you want to let him go. He gives you something, um,
Speaker 1: you know that that you don't really have with some
Speaker 1: of the other guys. I mean, he's got he's got
Speaker 1: a lot of size to him, So I would imagine
Speaker 1: they're going to keep him up um for the next
Speaker 1: few weeks. Now we can talk also about the defensive
Speaker 1: end situation and what was going on there, and and
Speaker 1: I think some some things are going to come out
Speaker 1: from from that. Like I don't really know all the details,
Speaker 1: but I know that it's more than just playing time.
Speaker 1: That there's a reason why they set Demontre Moore and
Speaker 1: Vincent Mayowa. Um, I don't, I don't know, but it
Speaker 1: just seems like some kind of your rule was broken
Speaker 1: or red flags should be raised. Yeah, to established, you know,
Speaker 1: veteran starter caliber guys or by the way, who haven't
Speaker 1: played poorly, Like yeah, it's not they've been. I don't
Speaker 1: think they've been. That they've played better than Taco Charlton exactly,
Speaker 1: and that's what they So I'm not saying this happened.
Speaker 1: Please do not quote me as saying this. I mean,
Speaker 1: this just seems like a missed meeting curfew type of thing.
Speaker 1: That's what it just seems like. So just all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, two guys same position not playing this game.
Speaker 1: That just seems weird to me. Yeah, and yeah, and
Speaker 1: but I'm not saying that happened because we really don't know.
Speaker 1: But but there's some kind of rule procedure or something
Speaker 1: that was broken. I think like when when the inactives
Speaker 1: list shocks people that are like in the know in
Speaker 1: the organization, that is typical usually points to something typically
Speaker 1: assigned that I asked the question. I said, so I'm
Speaker 1: trying to figure out I'm down on the field, and
Speaker 1: I asked some people and I said, okay, well just wait.
Speaker 1: So Mayowa and Demantree More because he kept saying more,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I got it, quarterbacks out right. He said, no, no,
Speaker 1: the other more More More and may are both down.
Speaker 1: I said, they're both down for this game? Yes, why
Speaker 1: because they're both down? Okay? And always started the show.
Speaker 1: I could see that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was a
Speaker 1: nice little dramatic pause. And probably just looked at you,
Speaker 1: like because they're down. Yeah, because they're down. What else
Speaker 1: do you need to You know, you can tell when
Speaker 1: someone's like staring at you with sunglasses on, like they
Speaker 1: got sungl and you know that they're still staring at you,
Speaker 1: like at least you get smack you guys. Ever see
Speaker 1: Raiders of the Lost Ary Raiders of the Lost Arc. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's like, we've got top men working on it. Who
Speaker 1: top men. No, this isn't resonating. I watched it like
Speaker 1: long time again. Well, it's impressive because it probably came
Speaker 1: out when you were more or before decade before I
Speaker 1: was born. Yeah. I did have one more question before
Speaker 1: we go to break and you and I talked about
Speaker 1: this in the press press box, Nick, as they were
Speaker 1: deciding what they were doing with the kicking situation. Why
Speaker 1: isn't that every team has their punter? And I thought
Speaker 1: you made a good point about this, so I wanted
Speaker 1: to bring it there. But why didn't every team just
Speaker 1: make their punter their back up kicker? It doesn't make
Speaker 1: sense to me that you got a guy who's trained
Speaker 1: to kick, and maybe it's it's punning, maybe that's a
Speaker 1: different mechanics, but it's still kicking, and I would think
Speaker 1: that would be closer to kicking a field goal or
Speaker 1: kicking off than would be a guy that plays safety.
Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to this question one hundred percent,
Speaker 1: But not five minutes ago, you were worried that kicking
Speaker 1: off too many times would hurt Jeff Heath's leg. So
Speaker 1: why are you going to ask your amazing punter who's
Speaker 1: doing his job as well as anybody else on the
Speaker 1: team to mess with his motion because he kicks for
Speaker 1: a living. You're like, that's what he does, completely simplifying,
Speaker 1: You're completely simple. It's really this is any different. I
Speaker 1: like bet, But the point is is if the best kicker,
Speaker 1: the backup kicker, is the punter, then I bet you
Speaker 1: he does it. I bet you he'll do that. But
Speaker 1: it's the whole operation of the snap, the whole the kick.
Speaker 1: If Chris Jones was the best guy to to kick
Speaker 1: the ball, then somebody's got a hold and yeah they
Speaker 1: can do it. And I'm sure there's five players on
Speaker 1: the team that have done it before. But Chris Jones
Speaker 1: does it. He works with he knows exactly where that
Speaker 1: ball is going to be and how to get it
Speaker 1: the laces exactly like it needs to be. And the
Speaker 1: fact that they have Jeff heat that can kick it
Speaker 1: that's probably why this is the situation. He is the backup.
Speaker 1: If Jeff Heath kicked the ball out of bounds and
Speaker 1: kicked it, you know, like hit Bucky with the ball
Speaker 1: every time, then Chris Jones would probably be the kickoff guy.
Speaker 1: But I mean, that's that's just the way that it is.
Speaker 1: And you don't like to switch two positions if you
Speaker 1: don't have to. And he's probably just as good, if
Speaker 1: not better than Chris Jones and Chris Jones as the holder.
Speaker 1: That's that's the operation issues. That's a way better reason
Speaker 1: than what I did is but better, don't like whatever,
Speaker 1: don't mess with your punter's mojo. That's if you have
Speaker 1: a guy, you're gonna message your safety's mojo. I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's just safe. All right, We're being we're
Speaker 1: being real nice to Jeff Heath today and he deserves it.
Speaker 1: But like mojo at safety. Oh, I'm just saying like
Speaker 1: he's not a trained kicker, as I guess what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: and so, and he doesn't practice and doesn't play in
Speaker 1: the motion. I mean thinking very often. That's the only
Speaker 1: reason I'm saying, like you would think, I know, punning
Speaker 1: is different than kicking, but it's much closer than playing
Speaker 1: safety and kicking. I would think I got into nice
Speaker 1: little Twitter situations with people because I asked the question,
Speaker 1: if you can do if you can kick off to
Speaker 1: the three yard line, if you've got that ability to
Speaker 1: kick off, then why aren't you kicking extra points? Like?
Speaker 1: Why didn't they even try that. They did later boy
Speaker 1: nasty responses about you know anything about football, if you
Speaker 1: think it's the same, Well, it's definitely not the same.
Speaker 1: But you're still kicking the ball right, and you can
Speaker 1: kick it and you've got that motion and that ability.
Speaker 1: So I think over time we saw that. I think
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett and the Cowboys figured out the same thing,
Speaker 1: like we could we could try. Plus the game got
Speaker 1: out of hand and you could you could kick it off.
Speaker 1: I mean you could, you could try the field goals.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the third one third extra point was
Speaker 1: right down in the middle. Uh, yep, yep, Okay, that's on.
Speaker 1: Dan Bailey and Chris Jones will be on the Cowboys
Speaker 1: Hour tonight with Brad Scham. Maybe they'll talk about that.
Speaker 1: Then why he's not the kicker. Yeah, that's a good question.
Speaker 1: Who's on tonight, Chris Jones and Dan Bailey on the
Speaker 1: Cowboys Hour tonight, Dallas Cowboys. Was that is that six?
Speaker 1: Starty or seventy? It starts at six o'clock, six o'clock,
Speaker 1: So make sure you check that out soon. Can you
Speaker 1: do that? Can you cover that first thing? I think
Speaker 1: those guys, this is what Dave lives for here. Those
Speaker 1: guys have never done a media opportunity alone, like they
Speaker 1: always have to do it together. Yeah, they always, well,
Speaker 1: always together anyway when they're around. Yeah. Well there may
Speaker 1: be like a game show or something where we can
Speaker 1: split them up or something like I have good luck.
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Speaker 1: have a call first from Rob in Vegas. Rob, what up? Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: how you doing. Hey? It was hey, listen, you dropped
Speaker 1: forty on the road. I don't care. It's the forty nine.
Speaker 1: Is that I was impressive. They didn't win twenty to ten.
Speaker 1: They won forty to ten. They probably could have scored
Speaker 1: fifty maybe, you know. I thought Dez probably played its
Speaker 1: best game. I made some tough catches, especially that slammed
Speaker 1: for the first down, which could have been picked. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was he didn't wear a visor. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But let Ahan I thought got a little cute in
Speaker 1: the first half. I thought they could have ran Zeke
Speaker 1: over and over and over again. I didn't think they
Speaker 1: needed to take him out. I think after the second
Speaker 1: series to bring Alfred Morrison, and especially when they were
Speaker 1: down by the goal line, I thought that was some
Speaker 1: bad play calling. But other than that, I thought they
Speaker 1: played great. I thought Ash actually did show up. It
Speaker 1: was nice to see a guy bring up from the
Speaker 1: practice squad and actually do something, and just a great win.
Speaker 1: And it was an easy win. I didn't have to
Speaker 1: screw my head off. All right, thanks for the call,
Speaker 1: I will you know it is it nitpicking? Of course
Speaker 1: it is, no, of course it is. But I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't get the Morris possession either. To be totally
Speaker 1: honest with you, I don't. They do it. They do
Speaker 1: it forever, they do it with they're not gonna change it,
Speaker 1: like and we maybe we want maybe it's a you know,
Speaker 1: maybe it is a way to limit Zeke's workload. You know,
Speaker 1: I think he was on he's on pace for somewhere
Speaker 1: around two hundred and fifty two hundred and eighty carries
Speaker 1: or something like that, which is that's well within an
Speaker 1: acceptable range for a feature back, you know, And it's
Speaker 1: not an issue when you beat a team forty to ten.
Speaker 1: But the thing that bugs me is it is an
Speaker 1: issue in a close game where all right, your third
Speaker 1: possession probably comes somewhere early to mid second quarter. Let's
Speaker 1: say it doesn't go well, then the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: get the ball and all of a sudden, like Zeke hasn't.
Speaker 1: It's the third quarter, and Zeke hasn't touched the ball
Speaker 1: since like late in the first Because you know, you're
Speaker 1: always gonna most times, you're gonna get the ball first,
Speaker 1: which means other team's gonna get it coming out. And
Speaker 1: we have seen that play out in closer games than this.
Speaker 1: It's not an issue when you run for two sixty
Speaker 1: five and win by thirty. But I don't like it
Speaker 1: and I don't get it, and it's no disrespect to
Speaker 1: Alfred Morris, but you have a twenty two year old
Speaker 1: beast of a running back that you're paying four million
Speaker 1: dollars a year two and I just don't you know,
Speaker 1: if Alfred Morris was Darren McFadden or Lance dunbar even
Speaker 1: and he had this very specific purpose like an Alvin Kamara,
Speaker 1: where you know you're gonna get him involved in the
Speaker 1: passing game and he can do different type of stuff. Fine,
Speaker 1: but Alfred Morris is basically the same running back as
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott, just not as good. And I don't understand that,
Speaker 1: and it bothers me. I don't think it's going anywhere,
Speaker 1: but I can at least empathize with fans who feel
Speaker 1: that way. Not to compare players, but just I know
Speaker 1: some of the things that Jason does. He count of
Speaker 1: models after his own experiences, And so you look back
Speaker 1: at the nineties Cowboys and see certain patterns. Nick you
Speaker 1: were watching as intently back then as you are now,
Speaker 1: even though you didn't work for the team. At that point.
Speaker 1: My grades were bad. Way, but you land at this job, right,
Speaker 1: So do you did you back then? Was that kind
Speaker 1: of was There were there moments in games when Emmett
Speaker 1: came out of the game specifically just to give him rest,
Speaker 1: not not to spell him when he was tired because
Speaker 1: he just had a long run, but just series where
Speaker 1: it was like, Okay, Emmet's gonna come out during this
Speaker 1: series in most games because we're gonna give him a
Speaker 1: break at that point and put somebody else in, whoever
Speaker 1: that might be. Yeah, And there were times when when
Speaker 1: that would happen and it would would come out of games.
Speaker 1: I mean you're talking about a whole decade. So it
Speaker 1: also depend on depending on the player that they had.
Speaker 1: I mean, um, you know, Sherman Williams, I guess it
Speaker 1: would be one, and Chris Warren later in his career,
Speaker 1: and you know, but Emmett it was such a different
Speaker 1: player because you know, when Troy went down, they could win.
Speaker 1: They won games without Troy. They didn't win without Emmett.
Speaker 1: They didn't win. And that's why I think when you're
Speaker 1: looking at the offensive line, you're talking about great offensive
Speaker 1: lines in the history. You know, I don't know, Sorry, Nate,
Speaker 1: but I don't I don't necessarily know where that one
Speaker 1: ranks better than this one because we've seen three different
Speaker 1: we've seen scenarios where guys come in and do well
Speaker 1: in this line and three different backs in the last
Speaker 1: four years and so, but when Emmett Smith was out,
Speaker 1: they didn't win. Derek Lassic didn't let him win, and
Speaker 1: Lincoln Coleman and Troy Hambrick and Chris Warren and Sherman
Speaker 1: Williams and whoever, they didn't win that line as great
Speaker 1: as they were or they they were great with him
Speaker 1: it and so, um, I just think that I don't
Speaker 1: know where I'm going with that, but I just I
Speaker 1: feel like it was different. It's a different situation that
Speaker 1: then Ben pulling the gay out. But it's a big
Speaker 1: I mean, we see, we see that they're You even
Speaker 1: said to me, like, why don't they running the balls
Speaker 1: like they did run the ball they ran into Alfred
Speaker 1: Morris for no gain or one yard. I mean they did.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just a different guy. But you know,
Speaker 1: you want to run him into the ground, But then
Speaker 1: you love the fact that he's run away from people
Speaker 1: in the middle of the third quarter on a screen pass.
Speaker 1: Its point, so I'm not sure that you know, three
Speaker 1: extra carries in the second quarters the difference between that
Speaker 1: and again it's nitpicking, but I think the Cowboys knew
Speaker 1: this game, was it going to happen? Maybe? I think
Speaker 1: they mean, I think they run away with it. I
Speaker 1: think they did. I think they looked at it and
Speaker 1: said that. I think so. I think that maybe there's
Speaker 1: a chance to get him in to play. They're about
Speaker 1: to get they're about to get beat down. That would
Speaker 1: be shockingly out of character for Jason Garrett to make it.
Speaker 1: Just to be so confident that you're going to get
Speaker 1: a big time win that you purposefully make your if
Speaker 1: that's why they decided to make Yeah, I mean, if
Speaker 1: you're making them inactive anyways, was out of character for him,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean just just changing it up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, yeah, I mean he's not gonna work great
Speaker 1: at eh no yeah or white yeah. Oh. One thing
Speaker 1: we haven't touched on that. I just I wanted to
Speaker 1: real quick, all right, the run defense, which that was
Speaker 1: a Twitter question. Um, thanks for taking somebody's good questions.
Speaker 1: You're welcome. Puts say their name so they at least
Speaker 1: they get a shout out David Hellman. Oh thanks. It
Speaker 1: still wasn't great by like, don't think no. The Niners
Speaker 1: ran for one hundred yards and average five yards per carry.
Speaker 1: Carlos Hyde had a long of sixteen and ran for
Speaker 1: you know, twelve and fourteen yards. But here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1: Total was what sixty eight? And this is a double
Speaker 1: edged thing because the forty nine ers ran the ball well,
Speaker 1: but what did we see they had stopped doing it?
Speaker 1: That's that I mean, it's not like this was ever
Speaker 1: a jug or not of a defense. It's that when
Speaker 1: your offense is playing like that, you have to abandon
Speaker 1: the run. I looked at this. Carlos Hyde had fourteen carries,
Speaker 1: six of which came after halftime, one of which came
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter. He just they took him out
Speaker 1: of the game. You can't run the ball when you're
Speaker 1: trailing by And as soon as you made them a
Speaker 1: one dimensional team and put it all on the rookies back,
Speaker 1: the defense was just coming. Remember thinking at one point,
Speaker 1: I think it was early second quarter, it was four
Speaker 1: teen to three, and they were driving around the twenty
Speaker 1: yard line, twenty five yard line, and it was that
Speaker 1: Hannah had a holding penalty. Uh Morris had a nine
Speaker 1: yard screen got back and I remember thinking or anything,
Speaker 1: I might have said this to you. I said, if
Speaker 1: they get a field goal here, it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: tough game. It's going we're gonna have that. But if
Speaker 1: they score here, it's over. So if they score a touchdown,
Speaker 1: and I think two plays later went in one handed touchdown, which,
Speaker 1: by the way, he did the exact same catch in
Speaker 1: patent Go like in the pregame. I was just watching
Speaker 1: him standing right there. He made the exact same one
Speaker 1: handed catch. I was like, man, it's nice, nice play, well,
Speaker 1: same exact doing it with Ja Whiskey Tart Drake to
Speaker 1: over use a little bit different Quiskey, but whis with
Speaker 1: the amount of hype that we put on and not
Speaker 1: personally put on Sean Lee and Anthony Hitchins playing together.
Speaker 1: I think the run defense could have been better, but
Speaker 1: it is encouraging to think that you can take that
Speaker 1: away if your offense is humming the way it's supposed to.
Speaker 1: And this all still goes back. I think it points back.
Speaker 1: I agree with your point, but I think it all
Speaker 1: points back to when the Cowboys are running the ball effectively,
Speaker 1: and I mean not just overall what your number is
Speaker 1: at the end of the game, but able to impose
Speaker 1: their will on the teams. When it comes to running
Speaker 1: the ball, everything else becomes a move point. This defense
Speaker 1: one hundred times better when the offense is able to
Speaker 1: be efficient and able to stay ahead of the chaine
Speaker 1: and that means they keep them off the field, and
Speaker 1: that means they score points, and that means they get
Speaker 1: a lead. This defense is so much better. Everything on
Speaker 1: this team is predicated on how well can they run
Speaker 1: the ball, particularly on first down. The fourth quarter play
Speaker 1: by play is just like CJ. Bethard incomplete. CJ. Bethard
Speaker 1: sacked CJ. Bethard complete for four yards. CJ. Bethard incomplete.
Speaker 1: Like you don't see any There's no rush attempts, there's
Speaker 1: no nothing. There's just one dimensional, simple effective. It's exactly right.
Speaker 1: Let's take a question from Twitter. Well, we all saw
Speaker 1: that the Cowboys obviously dominated the forty nine ers, But
Speaker 1: if you were nitpicking and just taking account into account
Speaker 1: that it was indeed the forty nine Ers, a team
Speaker 1: that had six straight losses, what is one specific area
Speaker 1: that each one of you thinks that they finally clicked
Speaker 1: and they finally did make some real improvement. Putting aside
Speaker 1: the fact that they were playing against the forty nine
Speaker 1: ers one area the left guard, I mean, I thought
Speaker 1: Jonathan Cooper was Actually we talked about it earlier, but
Speaker 1: I thought he had some really nice plays where you know,
Speaker 1: he was out pulling and they kind of ran behind
Speaker 1: him or he opened up the lane. It wasn't just
Speaker 1: you know, three guys and then two others. I thought
Speaker 1: those two others, Collins and Cooper both did really a
Speaker 1: really nice job. Just go look at the twenty five
Speaker 1: yard touchdown and run by Zeke the second one of
Speaker 1: the game. Go watch all of the linemen, Cooper and
Speaker 1: Lyle Collins are doing their job tremendously. Zack, Can I
Speaker 1: take one more step beyond that? Is Cooper on the outside,
Speaker 1: his ability to get outside where he did that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that was where if they can get him
Speaker 1: to do that consistently, you already got guys that are
Speaker 1: very athletic on this offensive line. And Zeke talked about
Speaker 1: it after the game. The reason why that that screen
Speaker 1: works so well was to say, he said, it's exact
Speaker 1: same play they were in in Pittsburgh last year. But
Speaker 1: the reason it works so well is because they got
Speaker 1: good athletic offensive lineman. If they can do that consistently,
Speaker 1: it presents a whole new wrinkle in this offense that
Speaker 1: teams that are aggressive, some of these teams that they've
Speaker 1: played so far that are really aggressive, like Denver, if
Speaker 1: you can get those guys on the outside out there blocking,
Speaker 1: you can open up some opportunities to be able to
Speaker 1: really take advantage of aggressive defenses, and they haven't been
Speaker 1: able to do that consistently this year. That's the one there.
Speaker 1: I think that its started to click yesterday. I'm interested
Speaker 1: to see not just in the runs, but also in
Speaker 1: the passing game how you can get those guys out
Speaker 1: into space blocking for Zeke and that gives him some
Speaker 1: opportunity to make big plays. Yeah, and Zi, I was
Speaker 1: talking to Zack Martin. He was telling me that their
Speaker 1: biggest problem was just being like everyone being on the
Speaker 1: same page, the five of them being on the same page,
Speaker 1: to where everyone is capable of doing their own job
Speaker 1: and not having to worry about the guy next to
Speaker 1: you and taking care of that. So hopefully this was
Speaker 1: the start of an offensive line being right on the
Speaker 1: same page and everything flowing smoothly. Now here's a question
Speaker 1: about Terrence Williams. Where was he this week? And once
Speaker 1: again we've had some issues with him seeing him struggle.
Speaker 1: Had three targets and zero So who cares people do?
Speaker 1: Apparently yeah, people care, still care about that. But I
Speaker 1: don't know. You played offense exactly the way you want
Speaker 1: to play. Zeke's had a new career high. Deaz had
Speaker 1: a solid game, made a great catch, Jason Winton Austin. Like,
Speaker 1: I mean, Cole Beasley didn't have an amazing day either,
Speaker 1: but like that doesn't matter when they had five hundred
Speaker 1: yards of offense. I mean, there's only so many balls
Speaker 1: to go around. Terrence had a chance at a touchdown.
Speaker 1: I mean you could say he didn't do a good
Speaker 1: job with his hands, it was a little bit overthrown whatever,
Speaker 1: But if he'd come down, yeah, it would have been
Speaker 1: a very nice play. I'm not gonna kill him for that.
Speaker 1: I mean, um, but I'm I don't. I'm just I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna dog the guy for not having a great
Speaker 1: day when the overall result was so awesome. You know,
Speaker 1: that's just fans nitpicking and forty points isn't enough. I mean,
Speaker 1: they did everything they wanted to. Forty nine ers couldn't
Speaker 1: take away des and so that's what happens if you're
Speaker 1: not gonna take away Dez and went. And then we've
Speaker 1: said how many million times have we said that Terrence
Speaker 1: is technically the number two receiver, but he's really the
Speaker 1: fourth or fifth option. You saw that come play out.
Speaker 1: So no, yeah, he didn't. He didn't have a great day.
Speaker 1: He didn't need to have a great day. Everybody else did.
Speaker 1: So all right, guys, appreciate you. Joonius. We're back tomorrow.
Speaker 1: We'll give you a bit picture look at what's happening
Speaker 1: around the NFC East, particularly tonight the reds I mean
Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Redskins face off in Philadelphia. That's
Speaker 1: a very important game for the Cowboys. To make sure
Speaker 1: you check that out. We'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: that tomorrow and then give you a bigger picture look
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