WEBVTT - A Look Back: Bachelor Peter Weber 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.199 Hey, Happy Hour listeners, I hope you enjoyed these throwback 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:06.320 episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes 0:00:06.480 --> 0:00:11.760 very soon. What's up, fascination. Of course, we hope you're 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:15.840 all staying safe, healthy, saying, I know you're probably a 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:18.600 little stir crazy. I know I am, I know Becca is. 0:00:18.640 --> 0:00:22.360 Actually I'm oddly content right now, which is weird. So 0:00:22.400 --> 0:00:24.240 I just feel like I'm gonna crack any moment. But 0:00:24.640 --> 0:00:27.040 whatever you're feeling right now, we are here to make 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:32.040 you feel better because we have on the podcast today 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.680 none other than Peter Weber. That's right. I feel like 0:00:35.720 --> 0:00:38.400 this has been an unusual season because usually you get 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:41.360 your answers, you kind of know how things end, and 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:43.280 you move on and you get ready for the next season. 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:46.760 Well that hasn't been the case because we are in quarantine. 0:00:47.080 --> 0:00:50.600 There's not a current Bachelorette season filming right now. Things 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:52.159 were kind of up in the air when it came 0:00:52.200 --> 0:00:54.400 to Peter's season. We've never seen an ending like this, 0:00:54.520 --> 0:00:56.600 so we were just kind of left in limbo. So 0:00:56.640 --> 0:00:58.880 none of us know much more than we're seeing out 0:00:58.920 --> 0:01:01.560 there today. So finally we'll get to see what's going 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:05.640 on from Peter himself. Yeah, Rachel, I cannot wait. This 0:01:05.720 --> 0:01:07.720 is one of the interviews that I mean, obviously we 0:01:07.760 --> 0:01:10.760 have been waiting a while for because we did not 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:14.120 get to speak to Peter after the finale unfortunately, and 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:17.800 this is probably one of the most requested interviews we've 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:21.040 had yet. I'd literally still to this day gid DMS 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:23.199 being like, bring Peter on, bring Peter on. So today 0:01:23.400 --> 0:01:26.360 is that day. Now. I don't know about you, but 0:01:26.480 --> 0:01:29.560 on a very selfish and personal level, I'm just dying 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:31.319 to know what's going on, because, like you said, we 0:01:31.440 --> 0:01:34.080 kind of get little tidbits of info here and there 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:36.800 of what maybe maybe what he's doing, where he is, 0:01:36.880 --> 0:01:40.640 who he's hanging out with, but it hasn't been confirmed 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:42.600 by Peter himself yet, and so I can't wait to 0:01:42.600 --> 0:01:47.080 get him on. Obviously, we've spoken with Hannah Ann after 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:49.200 the finale. We got hert take, but we need Peter's 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.600 take too, because there's probably much more to the story 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:56.559 and we're missing a lot, you know, and Peter, Like I, 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.080 regardless of what people think about Peter and how his 0:02:01.160 --> 0:02:04.160 season ended, I still love him. I still want nothing 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:05.800 but the best for him. So I really want to 0:02:05.840 --> 0:02:09.440 hear from him, because we have some major questions, and 0:02:09.480 --> 0:02:11.240 so I just think for the sake of everyone, we 0:02:11.320 --> 0:02:14.080 just have to get into it, bring him in. Because 0:02:14.360 --> 0:02:18.959 from the beginning, Becca, from the beginning, well, Rachel, we've 0:02:19.000 --> 0:02:21.320 joked all season, like we kept saying when it was 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:22.799 going on, there was so much John when we're like, 0:02:22.840 --> 0:02:24.200 we just needed to get to the end. We just 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:26.400 wanted to end and figure out what's going on, and 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:30.080 like we never got anything because obviously the way everything 0:02:30.080 --> 0:02:32.880 panned out, he didn't end up with anyone as far 0:02:32.919 --> 0:02:36.520 as we know at this point. Who knows if things 0:02:36.520 --> 0:02:39.960 have changed since then. So I think I think, without 0:02:39.960 --> 0:02:41.680 further ado, we just have to get into it. We 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.079 have to get started with Peter. So, ladies and gentlemen, 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.320 Bachelor Happy our listeners, please give a warm welcome to 0:02:47.360 --> 0:02:59.760 our latest Bachelor, Peter Wepper. Peter, Hi, Peter, Hello, Hello, 0:03:00.040 --> 0:03:04.200 how's it going. I'm good, showing like a villain, you know, Peter. 0:03:04.320 --> 0:03:07.040 Where are you at right now? I'm in So, I'm 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:10.120 in Chicago. I'm at Kelly's apartment right now, getting the 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:14.400 good stuff right away. By the way, I got dustin, 0:03:14.480 --> 0:03:20.720 That says Hi. Dusty waves Hi waits, was Dustin Dustin? 0:03:20.919 --> 0:03:25.000 Dustin's met you, Rachel Peter? What was he supposed to 0:03:25.040 --> 0:03:27.960 be our one of our bachelor's for the live show? 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:31.640 Were you supposed to be a bachelor for the live show? Oh? 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.680 Yeah he was. I don't even know. Yeah, we'll tell 0:03:33.720 --> 0:03:37.920 him to keep next You're in February reserved. I'll keep 0:03:37.960 --> 0:03:40.920 next February reserved because they're coming back to you, all right, 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:46.160 says Okay, where's Kelly? Kelly's still asleeping? What time is it? 0:03:46.400 --> 0:03:52.000 What y'all do? Last night? We had a good night 0:03:52.040 --> 0:03:54.640 and sent some fun. We had like a dance party. 0:03:54.680 --> 0:03:56.440 Because have you seen like these DJs that have been 0:03:56.440 --> 0:04:00.480 doing these like live shows? DJ Nice? Have you watched his? Uh? 0:04:00.760 --> 0:04:04.560 Not his? No, we're watching Griffin and uh I think 0:04:04.600 --> 0:04:07.600 the guys are loud the child, but yeah, we're just 0:04:08.280 --> 0:04:10.320 didn't you want to be a DJ? Weren't you going 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.800 to become a DJ? I would love to you. That's 0:04:12.800 --> 0:04:16.520 always been like a huge passion of mine. So really yeah, 0:04:16.600 --> 0:04:18.640 I've always just like known that I have it in me, 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.120 like I have that whatever that is, like just pump 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.120 up a crowd and like give what I feel to them. 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:24.400 I just have to figure out a way to take 0:04:24.400 --> 0:04:26.160 it out. I got to learn what I'm doing, obviously, 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:29.160 But um, I know Blake he's like he's doing. I've 0:04:29.160 --> 0:04:31.160 been talking to him a little bit, and uh, because 0:04:31.160 --> 0:04:32.560 I have so much free time, you know, I might 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.280 as well do something else. So what would be your style? 0:04:35.680 --> 0:04:37.960 Like your your your type of music that you would do? 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:43.640 Tropical house? So you know you ever heard of Kigo? Yes? Okay? 0:04:43.720 --> 0:04:45.680 So like his kind of music is like the music 0:04:45.720 --> 0:04:47.279 that talks to me and touches me the most. So 0:04:47.360 --> 0:04:50.039 like that exact vibe, like a lot of like piano 0:04:50.120 --> 0:04:53.680 like instrumentals. Um, but just like that good, feel good music. 0:04:54.640 --> 0:04:59.200 Did you know that there's like a legit DJ school? Yeah? 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.880 I did, Oh, okay, because because when I saw Blake 0:05:01.960 --> 0:05:04.640 at the Bachelor Live Tour, he was telling me He's like, yeah, 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:06.640 I went to DJ school. I'm like, where the hell 0:05:06.760 --> 0:05:08.680 is a DJ school? I've never heard of it, but 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:11.720 it sounds cool. It sounds like it'd be kind, I mean, 0:05:11.800 --> 0:05:14.760 not kind of a pretty fun school. No, I think. Yeah, 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:16.120 he went to one in Denver, so I'm gonna look 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:17.800 for one in La And all this stuff is said 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:19.520 and done, But I got my got my laptop, got 0:05:19.560 --> 0:05:23.280 all the equipment. So, oh you're serious. I mean, why 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:25.920 not pick up a passion in a hobby during this time? 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:29.440 So I'm gonna ask you off the bat, have you 0:05:29.560 --> 0:05:35.400 changed your stance on coronavirus? H are you talking about? Like, yeah, 0:05:35.400 --> 0:05:38.800 I need to ask you Peter like the one like 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:43.160 TMZ thing. Yes, yeah, yeah, I can yeah, fully change 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.720 my stance. That was before everything I did. I used 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:47.240 to think that, Yeah, it was just kind of like 0:05:47.279 --> 0:05:51.120 an overblown thing, like unwarranted fear. Um, obviously it is not. 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:55.080 I was one billion percent wrong, And yeah, I apologize 0:05:55.080 --> 0:05:58.640 for those comments. Yeah, we'll call this the Redemption podcast. 0:05:58.720 --> 0:06:01.760 You don't want to give you a chance to clear 0:06:01.800 --> 0:06:03.600 things up. I don't know what I was thinking when 0:06:03.600 --> 0:06:08.320 I said that. The guy called me off guard, but whatever, yeah, completely, Hey. 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:10.040 I will say when I was still on the tour 0:06:10.160 --> 0:06:12.919 before everything got shut down and we had to be 0:06:13.000 --> 0:06:15.560 locked inside because I was on the tour with Ben, 0:06:15.600 --> 0:06:18.159 and Ben seemed overly paranoid at that point, and I 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:20.040 was like, oh, I don't go away, It's not going 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.400 to be that bad. And then fast forward to a 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.159 month later, I'm like, I am biting my tongue right now. 0:06:25.560 --> 0:06:30.200 It's sad. I get it. It's sad, but yeah, hopefully 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.040 it's you know, kind of blows over soon. Who knows. Yeah, 0:06:33.080 --> 0:06:36.440 but you're doing You're saying you're quarantining, so you're doing 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.160 your part, right. I as much as people think I 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:41.520 haven't been, I promise you guy's been quarantining in social 0:06:41.520 --> 0:06:44.640 distancing here in Chicago. So for all of the listeners 0:06:44.720 --> 0:06:46.800 right now, you can't see us. We are on zoom, 0:06:46.839 --> 0:06:50.920 so we're all looking at each other. But Peter is quarantining. Um. 0:06:51.920 --> 0:06:53.560 I don't know if you miss at the top of this, 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:59.480 but he is quarantining where and good old shytown Chicago 0:07:00.080 --> 0:07:06.440 with with with good old chop Chop Kelly and Dustin 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:09.920 goods Chop Chop. That's a that's what that's the nickname 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:12.640 I've given Kelly. That's like on the last on her 0:07:12.720 --> 0:07:14.680 last episode in Peru, She's like, Chop Chop, give me 0:07:14.720 --> 0:07:17.720 the road. And so now I just call her chop Chop. Oh, okay, okay, 0:07:17.800 --> 0:07:22.840 cute little nickname, a little pet name. So I was 0:07:22.920 --> 0:07:25.720 gonna hold off on the Kelly stuff, but I will 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.160 ask you this, and I'm hoping by the time that 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.160 we've were into this podcast that she wakes up. I 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:33.720 really don't think she's asleep. I just think that she's hiding. 0:07:33.720 --> 0:07:36.200 But that's okay, Kelly, that's okay. I'm going to send 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:40.840 a text Darren because because we've always been Kelly fans. 0:07:41.040 --> 0:07:42.920 So you know, you got a friend in us on 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:47.760 this podcast. That's my sister in the law. Yeah, that's right, yep, exactly. 0:07:48.760 --> 0:07:54.640 So my question is we saw the TMZ photos come out. Yeah, 0:07:54.680 --> 0:07:56.440 whether you guys were aware of that was going to 0:07:56.520 --> 0:07:58.160 happen or not, I don't know. You were in a 0:07:58.160 --> 0:08:01.880 pretty public place, so it's it wasn't shocking. I guess 0:08:01.880 --> 0:08:06.040 that somebody caught you know, you guys all hanging out, right, 0:08:07.480 --> 0:08:11.640 So I guess my question is when you decided to 0:08:11.680 --> 0:08:15.000 do it? Where y'all like fuck it, you know what 0:08:15.040 --> 0:08:17.320 I mean, We're just gonna go out, hang out. People 0:08:17.320 --> 0:08:22.120 are gonna talk regardless, let's go honestly. So, we had 0:08:22.120 --> 0:08:25.200 been cooped up in in Kelly's apartment for like quite 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:27.360 like almost like a week before that ever came out 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.800 those pictures, and then finally it was a gorgeous day 0:08:29.800 --> 0:08:32.559 in Chicago. They really dusted, and Kelly really wanted me 0:08:32.600 --> 0:08:34.240 to do the river walk, which is like this gorgeous 0:08:34.240 --> 0:08:35.920 thing to do here, and at first we're gonna do 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.880 like a kind of hidden one closer to Kelly's apartment, 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.320 but then like, now let's do the main one. So 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:45.920 we ended up doing it, and honestly, like more a 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:48.520 hat sack glasses, thought we'd kind of be good. Wasn't 0:08:48.520 --> 0:08:50.280 trying to like put it in people's faces at all. 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.160 And that first picture I remember I literally were at 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:56.240 like the one of the slips there on the lake 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:57.880 and like I picked her up real quickly, like a 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.960 little spinny thing, just for fun, and then taking dustins 0:09:00.960 --> 0:09:02.760 like well, someone just got a picture and we're like no, 0:09:03.240 --> 0:09:07.560 and then whatever, you know, Peter, people are always watching. 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.400 You need to give a wig or something. I know, 0:09:10.679 --> 0:09:12.320 I know, seriously, I need to like working like a 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:16.120 better disguise, but um, I mean listen at that point too, 0:09:16.200 --> 0:09:17.559 I don't think I know, people were like kind of 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.319 upset with the whole social distancing thing and they just 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.559 didn't know they didn't, you know, know the facts about 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:23.480 what I had chosen do at that point. So I 0:09:23.520 --> 0:09:26.360 totally get their frustration with that but now that I 0:09:26.400 --> 0:09:29.440 can kind of clear it up, we were social distancing. 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:32.240 It was just us And at that point that river 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:34.160 walk was still open, like there was thousands of people 0:09:34.200 --> 0:09:37.160 on it. So that's the problem, Peter, That's why people 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.880 were upset. There were all those people there. Well, that's 0:09:41.320 --> 0:09:43.360 allowed at that point that the order had been allowed 0:09:43.400 --> 0:09:45.000 to be allowed to go walk and get exercise and 0:09:45.040 --> 0:09:46.960 get fresh air. And then the next day they closed it. 0:09:47.080 --> 0:09:50.920 So yeah, because of you guys. Honestly, you brought so 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:54.560 much attention to the riverwalk they close it down. So 0:09:54.880 --> 0:09:57.560 inquiring minds what to know? How did you end up 0:09:57.640 --> 0:10:02.400 quarantining at Kelly's take us back? Okay? Yeah? Um, so 0:10:02.720 --> 0:10:05.120 I keep saying, just with Kelly, Night's been like very 0:10:05.520 --> 0:10:08.640 serendipitous with just everything's kind of happened from the very beginning. 0:10:08.640 --> 0:10:10.800 How we met before the show. Um, I don't know 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.920 if everyone knows, but while this show is airing, we 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:16.800 ran We ran in each other again in Miami one 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.600 at the Super Bowl. That was crazy, just a brief 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.240 brief you know, hello, how are you doing by? And 0:10:23.280 --> 0:10:25.920 then fast forward now to a couple of weeks ago, 0:10:26.360 --> 0:10:28.200 through some mutual friends who ran inched each other. A 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:31.800 third time out in LA got her number, started communicating. 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.320 She's always been very supportive of me, and you know, 0:10:35.559 --> 0:10:38.160 I've tried my best to be supportive of her. Some 0:10:38.200 --> 0:10:40.760 stuff ended up happening with her family, some slight serious 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:43.600 stuff like health stuff. So she was kind of like 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.559 in a just a sad place, a rough place, and 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.679 she was by herself, a roommates ward in Chicago. Her 0:10:48.679 --> 0:10:51.480 family was in Florida, you know, quarantine, and I decided 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:53.000 to fly out spent some time with her, try to 0:10:53.000 --> 0:10:56.440 take her mind off things, and you know that's what 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:58.719 I did. Um. I also it actually ended up just 0:10:58.760 --> 0:11:00.560 working out because you know, obviously I still litle at 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.200 home and I fly still I have to do for 0:11:02.200 --> 0:11:04.760 the essential work. And I was like it better to 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:06.880 just like make this my home base and go back 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:08.720 home and risk giving something to my parents, you know, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:10.839 who are in their sixties, and they just made sense 0:11:10.840 --> 0:11:12.880 on all fronts, and um, you know, I could be 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.880 there for her, and you know, hopefully I put a 0:11:15.920 --> 0:11:18.640 smile on her face and you know, distractor a little bit. 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:26.240 So that was nicely put without being too specific that 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:30.000 I believe you know, I believe you. I want to 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.320 dig because I want to know personally, wouldn't the third 0:11:32.360 --> 0:11:34.520 time that you say, there's muchild friends who kind of 0:11:34.559 --> 0:11:36.800 hooked you guys up to bump into each other. Was that? 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:41.200 Did that happen to be during the women tell all? No, 0:11:41.480 --> 0:11:44.280 this was this was way after all of that. She's 0:11:44.320 --> 0:11:46.719 I guess her her brothers are really good friends with 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:51.679 Katie Agro and so I guess through that connection she 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.000 was saying with them, I'm really good friends with Christian Haggarty. 0:11:54.200 --> 0:11:56.559 And I was out with Dylan and Devon one night 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.120 and then I Dylan had been texting Christian, so I 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:01.800 started texting Christian and then we're like, yeah, come out 0:12:01.920 --> 0:12:05.520 and meet with meet us. And you know, Kelly was like, this, 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:12.120 it's crazy, so serendipitous, like you said, I'll say, I mean, 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:13.800 I was in Miami for the Super Bowl and I 0:12:13.840 --> 0:12:15.839 didn't run into either one of y'all, So I mean, 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:22.080 I guess maybe they were hiding at that point. Peter. 0:12:22.200 --> 0:12:24.160 I'm excited that we have you and that you're finally 0:12:24.200 --> 0:12:26.280 clearing it up because I cannot begin to tell you 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:30.600 the amount of DMS that I personally receive asking about 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.440 you and if you and Kelly are together. And I've 0:12:33.520 --> 0:12:36.959 said this on the podcast before with Rachel, Like people 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:39.400 think just because we're part of this Bachelor world that 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:42.240 we were on the show, like we somehow magically know 0:12:42.360 --> 0:12:45.920 everything about everyone, And that's not the case. So I 0:12:45.960 --> 0:12:48.800 don't know that we care to know. You don't even 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:51.040 care to know. Yeah, I just there's too many of 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:53.440 us now, like there's no way, and so I just 0:12:53.559 --> 0:12:55.680 don't even respond to people that ask me about you guys. 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.800 So everyone listening, you've heard it from the horse's mouth 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:02.200 here Peter. Now, but but listen, we aren't listen. We 0:13:02.200 --> 0:13:04.800 aren't dating right now. I can set that straight. Um. 0:13:05.200 --> 0:13:08.840 I me personally obviously, have I've learned anything, it's to 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.200 take things extremely slow and not rush into anything. I 0:13:11.280 --> 0:13:14.080 just was engaged. I just was finishing up another relationship, 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.840 figuring out what was going to happen with that. So, UM, 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:21.280 you know we're there for lateater, I gotta ask you 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:25.160 a question. I'm sorry, I believe you that you're not dating. 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:28.960 Believe you. Um. I also like to point out that 0:13:29.040 --> 0:13:35.400 you were using Kelly's Kelly I'm at her apartment. I 0:13:35.440 --> 0:13:39.680 don't know. Nothing gets past me. I never was, I 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:42.160 was I was talking to Caitlin the other day doing 0:13:42.160 --> 0:13:44.040 a podcast, and she like didn't want to say it. 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.920 She's like, oh, is he trying to hide this or something? 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:48.040 And then she's like, so whose computer are you on. 0:13:48.080 --> 0:13:51.160 I was like, Oh, it's Kelly. So she's like, uh, okay, 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:53.800 I was gonna see. I don't think you're trying to 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:57.280 hide anything, which personally, I think is kind of refreshing. 0:13:57.800 --> 0:14:01.480 It's I think you've learned the hard way. Like a 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:03.080 lot of leads that have had a difficult time, people 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.400 have been hard on you, like, let's just call it 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:08.320 what it is, and they're gonna be hard on you. 0:14:08.360 --> 0:14:10.120 Some people are gonna like what you do, some people aren't. 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.800 So you just kind of have to live your life 0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:14.680 and cancel out all the other noise. And it seems 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:17.840 like you're doing them. But back to what you said. 0:14:18.200 --> 0:14:21.240 You said you're taking it slow and you're not dating yet. 0:14:21.280 --> 0:14:24.120 You literally called where you are home right now. You said, 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:27.000 I'm just making this my home base. That kind of 0:14:27.080 --> 0:14:30.360 sounds fast to see each other every day. Were quarantining 0:14:30.480 --> 0:14:33.000 how many bedrooms does Kelly have? You know what I mean? 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:37.480 Three bedrooms? Don't even try to tell me that you 0:14:37.600 --> 0:14:40.600 and Dustin are in your own rooms. We have our 0:14:40.640 --> 0:14:44.120 own room, and we got Sophie here too, Dustin's dogs. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:47.560 That we're having a party, it's just I mean, like, 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:49.720 obviously it sounds like so much fun, you know, to 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:51.560 have a group of people, because a lot of people 0:14:51.600 --> 0:14:53.720 are alone right now, But it also doesn't sound like 0:14:53.720 --> 0:14:55.720 you're taking a slow I'm just I'm just saying, so 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.280 the perfect way to get to know somebody is like this. 0:14:58.680 --> 0:15:01.120 I understand that, but I will use the defense that 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.320 we are quarantining together so we have no choice, but 0:15:03.360 --> 0:15:05.200 it's done all of our time together, and I just 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:07.440 I'm grateful for that, very grateful because you get along 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.960 still well, I just yeah, I look up there and 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.400 just have so much respect for herself. So here's my 0:15:13.480 --> 0:15:16.640 segue into moving on. Do you feel like at this point, 0:15:16.640 --> 0:15:20.200 because how many weeks have you been quarantined in Chicago? Um, 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:23.200 I guess and now like a little over two and 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.640 a half maybe, so do you feel like you know 0:15:26.320 --> 0:15:32.680 Kelly better than you knew Hannah Anna Madison at this point? Yes? Yeah, yeah, 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:36.880 seg go ahead, I know you've spent a lot of 0:15:36.880 --> 0:15:39.720 time with her. Yea, I know more about my husband 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:43.360 now and I haven't. I can see if the couples 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.360 can make it through this quarantine when you are locked 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:48.880 in together twenty four seven, you can make it through 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:52.880 anything after this. It's very true. Yeah, No, I've definitely 0:15:52.920 --> 0:15:55.880 gotten to know her very well, everything that kind of 0:15:55.880 --> 0:15:57.600 makes her tick and just kind of like annoys or 0:15:57.640 --> 0:16:00.960 all that stuff. It's it's yeah, and you're deal. There, 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.520 go ahead, Becca. Well, Peter, we have so many questions 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.560 for you. I mean, we have a list here and 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:11.880 I was up late last night writing and what I 0:16:12.320 --> 0:16:14.080 want to make sure to ask you because I'm sure 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:16.920 I'm not the only one who wants answers to everything. 0:16:17.320 --> 0:16:19.480 I want to start, though, first by just kind of 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.360 giving you the floor, because I mean, it's been a 0:16:22.400 --> 0:16:25.200 while now since you're finale, we haven't really heard too 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.320 much from you. You know, you didn't do a press tour. 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:29.880 Once everything went down, you kind of just i mean 0:16:30.560 --> 0:16:33.440 not went off the grid, but you know, secluded away 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:35.760 in Chicago, and so first and foremost, I want to 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.640 know why, why now, why this timing? Do you feel 0:16:39.640 --> 0:16:41.600 like it's right to finally come out and chat with 0:16:41.640 --> 0:16:43.600 all of us and give your side? And then I 0:16:43.640 --> 0:16:45.800 really want you to just take it away, and I'm 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.600 sure you have so much on your chest that you 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:49.600 want to start off by saying and kind of clear 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:53.440 the air on some things. So we'll save our deep, dark, 0:16:53.920 --> 0:16:57.160 tough questions for a little bit later. Okay, Yeah, I 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.240 just I just needed time, you know, after the whole 0:17:01.280 --> 0:17:05.000 show ended. Obviously, you know a lot had gone on there. Um, 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:07.840 you know I obviously you know, yeah, I should don 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:09.639 the press to apologize for not really just being a 0:17:09.720 --> 0:17:11.639 headspace to do that, but I just wasn't, um, and 0:17:11.840 --> 0:17:14.760 I know Madison wasn't as well, And that was just 0:17:14.800 --> 0:17:17.719 a tough couple of days for us. Right after. UM, 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:19.040 that was just kind of like the last thing on 0:17:19.080 --> 0:17:21.720 my mind. And UM, obviously there was a lot of 0:17:21.760 --> 0:17:24.560 stuff that had happened between Madison and I right after 0:17:24.600 --> 0:17:27.040 that show and you know, into the next two days 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:29.320 and then after that, you know, I just wanted to 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.560 essentially just be there for my family. UM. I wanted 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.119 us to just you know, come together and um, support 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.560 each other. We were going through a lot. There was 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.080 a lot of you know, comments, all critics, everyone just 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:39.800 it was going It was kind of crazy, it was insane, 0:17:40.200 --> 0:17:44.280 and yeah, I guess just press really was the last 0:17:44.320 --> 0:17:46.679 thing on my mind. Um, you know, fast forward now 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.280 a couple of weeks, and I really like it. I 0:17:50.320 --> 0:17:52.280 know it probably sounds crazy, like I'm in a really 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.080 really good place right now and I feel just really good. 0:17:55.240 --> 0:17:57.760 And um, I'm really happy to that, you know that 0:17:57.800 --> 0:17:59.600 I do feel that way, because it wasn't that way 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:03.080 for a while. Um, after everything kind of ended and 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:04.520 then just you know, having to see you so much 0:18:04.560 --> 0:18:06.800 stuff and so much hate. That stuff's hard and that 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.520 stuff like just really took a while to kind of like, 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.440 you know, I knew I thought I had tough skin, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.240 and this, you know, really tested that and now I 0:18:13.280 --> 0:18:17.520 have even tougher skin. And um yeah, I remember, you know, 0:18:17.600 --> 0:18:19.520 finally reaching out and like you know, saying like listen, 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:21.320 I'm ready to you know kind of talk. And it's 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:23.000 just there was so much stuff out there that just 0:18:23.119 --> 0:18:25.480 people were making all these claims and assumptions on just 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.679 like you know, guesses there were no facts, like no 0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.160 factual stuff. And so I'm all right, it's probably time 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:33.760 for me to just clear some stuff up. And and 0:18:33.800 --> 0:18:38.000 so that's why I felt comfortable doing it. Um yeah, 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:41.520 it's been a rolling, crazy crazy experience. But well, and 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:44.920 I will say this, I mean for people that come 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:47.960 from the show, it's it's hard to kind of fathom 0:18:48.000 --> 0:18:51.879 like what we go through. I think a lot of times, 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:54.439 like any contestant who comes from the show kind of 0:18:54.480 --> 0:18:58.520 gets subjectified and people think that they know everything about us, 0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:00.760 and they have their opinions and their call moments. And 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.080 it's hard enough coming out of the show, especially as 0:19:04.080 --> 0:19:08.400 a lead, and having all of that attention fixated on you, 0:19:08.480 --> 0:19:11.640 and you have it coming at all ends. You hear 0:19:11.760 --> 0:19:15.160 great things, new hear terrible things. I can't imagine not 0:19:15.240 --> 0:19:18.680 only that, but then having that come towards your family 0:19:18.720 --> 0:19:21.640 members too, and the people you love the most, Like 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:24.680 I like, props to you, and I hope that you 0:19:24.760 --> 0:19:27.280 and your family you know, have taken some time to 0:19:27.400 --> 0:19:30.680 talk and really sort things out and figure that out, 0:19:30.720 --> 0:19:33.600 because if anyone was coming from my mom like how 0:19:33.640 --> 0:19:35.919 people were coming from barb Oh, I would have lost it. 0:19:35.960 --> 0:19:38.320 Like there's no way I would have been able to 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.480 handle that and I would not have stayed cool, calm 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.639 and collected by any means. So props to you, I 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.520 hope I actually want to know, so you know, we 0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:49.600 saw your parents take on after the final rows and 0:19:49.680 --> 0:19:52.520 kind of where they stood in regards to your relationship 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:55.359 with Madison, where are things now with you and especially 0:19:55.440 --> 0:20:00.000 with your mom. We are in a really good place 0:20:00.040 --> 0:20:02.679 as well right now, and I it's something that like 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:05.440 our relationship is just so close, like I'm sure you 0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.760 guys have with your mom and I just you know, 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:11.240 I know she's just my number one fan, and you know, 0:20:11.240 --> 0:20:13.919 it's only wanted what's best for me. That whole thing 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:15.919 obviously just came from a place of love. Could the 0:20:15.920 --> 0:20:19.159 delivery of everything have been, you know, so different? Absolutely, 0:20:19.320 --> 0:20:21.920 you know she's the first one to admit that, but 0:20:23.400 --> 0:20:26.479 you know, from going down to that stage to or 0:20:26.520 --> 0:20:28.280 having that stuff happen on stage and then you know, 0:20:28.359 --> 0:20:29.800 I didn't go home look for a couple because I 0:20:29.800 --> 0:20:31.800 was still in the hotel being kept there for a 0:20:31.840 --> 0:20:33.480 couple of days after. But when I did go home, 0:20:34.840 --> 0:20:36.520 you know, it was just more of a and the 0:20:36.560 --> 0:20:38.719 way my family dynamic kind of works is like we 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.399 are so close, and yeah, I did it kind of 0:20:41.440 --> 0:20:43.320 seem like a little much and a little dramatic when 0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:46.479 it was you know, what transpired, but that's just like 0:20:46.520 --> 0:20:48.840 that's also my family and like I feel like that's 0:20:48.840 --> 0:20:51.600 a lot of families to be honest in everyday life 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:54.000 just behind closed doors, you know, where people aren't going 0:20:54.080 --> 0:20:55.960 to agree all the time. Family members are going to 0:20:56.080 --> 0:20:58.360 just have their own opinions and be passionate about it 0:20:58.600 --> 0:21:01.560 and to kind of reflecting on it. It It almost like 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:04.920 just made me even more proud of my mom that, 0:21:05.119 --> 0:21:07.919 you know, she you know, obviously is very outspoken and 0:21:07.920 --> 0:21:10.840 we'll speak her mind. And you know, being on live TV, 0:21:11.000 --> 0:21:13.840 being in that pressure situation and having all this pressure 0:21:13.840 --> 0:21:16.040 to kind of conform to like us maybe a possibly 0:21:16.080 --> 0:21:19.359 a certain narrative. The fact that she didn't and doing 0:21:19.400 --> 0:21:21.120 that out of like her love for me is such 0:21:21.119 --> 0:21:24.600 a beautiful thing. Um, you know, delivery aside, Like that's 0:21:24.600 --> 0:21:26.399 something nice, respect the hell out of my mom for 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:28.240 and something I wish I could be a little bit 0:21:28.320 --> 0:21:30.359 more like her in regards to just like putting your 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.679 foot down and just like you know, speaking you know, 0:21:33.000 --> 0:21:37.600 you you're too, heart So we're doing really good. Um, 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:40.520 we have that relationship where you know, we come in 0:21:40.560 --> 0:21:42.439 and we give each other a hug and nothing is 0:21:42.480 --> 0:21:44.720 gonna nothing is going to get in the way of 0:21:44.760 --> 0:21:47.400 that and it's all good. We'll always have each other's back. 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.800 You know, we're family, and you know, those are the 0:21:50.840 --> 0:21:53.879 closest people to me and very lucky to have that 0:21:53.960 --> 0:21:57.040 kind of relationship, you know. I I'm glad that you 0:21:57.040 --> 0:21:59.639 guys are doing okay. I never had a doubt it 0:22:00.080 --> 0:22:02.600 you wouldn't be fine. I think things just needed to 0:22:02.640 --> 0:22:06.520 cool down. I think that you know, it's not to me. 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:11.520 It was a cultural thing, which I understood. And yeah, 0:22:11.600 --> 0:22:15.280 and that's that's just in general. Who watches the show. 0:22:15.560 --> 0:22:17.919 They don't understand things. I agree, And I think, like 0:22:17.960 --> 0:22:21.080 you said, your mom agrees the delivery wasn't right, but 0:22:21.119 --> 0:22:24.199 I understood the passion and the intention behind it. Um. 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:26.600 You know, I've reached out to your mom. I talked 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:32.600 to your mom through DHIM, so I definitely understand it. 0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:41.920 I too have a question, Yeah, from what your mom 0:22:42.040 --> 0:22:45.200 said at the finale, do you still think that mother 0:22:45.280 --> 0:22:51.199 knows best? And and you know, um, we can go 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:53.240 into it you guys want, But you know, the next 0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.239 two days with Madison and I, you know, we had 0:22:55.280 --> 0:22:58.000 a lot of conversations and at the end of the day, 0:22:58.000 --> 0:22:59.760 at the end of that second day, we essentially we're 0:22:59.800 --> 0:23:03.879 just proving my mom right and you know, I've always 0:23:03.880 --> 0:23:05.600 heard that, Yeah, Mom's no best and you know the 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:07.879 reason that SAME's out there and I think they do. 0:23:08.160 --> 0:23:10.040 I do have one main question. I mean, as you know, 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:15.000 we did get Hannah AND's take during the finale, the 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.399 one question I have, and so I told Hannah, Hannah 0:23:18.440 --> 0:23:21.280 and this too. Like watching that back, obviously I can 0:23:21.880 --> 0:23:24.320 empathize with her and relate to her because I went 0:23:24.320 --> 0:23:27.600 through something so similar. I want to know and this 0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:30.320 is one thing that and I told her this. I 0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:32.720 don't think when I was broken up with on TV 0:23:32.960 --> 0:23:35.000 and went through it all like I wasn't able to 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:38.040 process it with the cameras there. I was so blindsided 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.359 and just I really blacked out, like I legit, did 0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.040 not know what to say. And in her case, it 0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.520 seemed like she was much more vocal to you. She 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:49.480 had a lot more to say to you as I 0:23:49.680 --> 0:23:52.199 just hid in the bathroom and cried. But my question 0:23:52.280 --> 0:23:54.800 for you, and this is something that I had wanted 0:23:54.840 --> 0:23:57.520 to ask Ari during my or his after the final roles, 0:23:57.520 --> 0:23:59.800 and I just never did. When was the moment that 0:23:59.840 --> 0:24:04.239 it changed for you? Because during the proposal and that 0:24:04.359 --> 0:24:07.280 day and we even't talked to Neil Lane seeing you, 0:24:07.280 --> 0:24:10.080 you looked so happy, so excited, you were kissing the ring. 0:24:10.600 --> 0:24:13.720 You just seemed like complete one eighty from what we 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.080 saw go down. And so when was that one moment 0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:19.320 for you where things clinton You're like, this relationship isn't 0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:22.040 going to work out and I have to now end 0:24:22.119 --> 0:24:29.480 things with my fiance. It was, man, that was just 0:24:29.520 --> 0:24:31.480 like that was the absolutely, like I keep saying, that 0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.520 is the hardest week of my life. And I remember, yeah, 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:38.000 that interaction I had, you know with Neil Lane before 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:42.880 that had happened. I remember, you know that their production 0:24:42.920 --> 0:24:44.280 was all setting up to film, and that was in 0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.159 my hotel room and I was like outside in the 0:24:46.200 --> 0:24:48.560 living room area, and before that happened, like I like 0:24:48.960 --> 0:24:50.760 I made an excuse to go into my room and 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.159 just get away from everyone for a second and just 0:24:53.200 --> 0:24:55.920 like close the door and just like really sat down 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.760 and was like because I was just struggling like no 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:02.160 other see regards like what had happened with Madison and 0:25:02.320 --> 0:25:04.760 seeing if I could actually do this like the heartbreak 0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:06.840 that I was feeling. Could I actually pull myself together? 0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:08.960 Is it something that I truly felt like I should 0:25:08.960 --> 0:25:10.920 be doing? And I remember sitting there thinking that was 0:25:10.960 --> 0:25:14.440 like my last chance to maybe go a different direction. 0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.280 And I just sat there probably twenty minutes just in 0:25:17.320 --> 0:25:19.160 my own head, like really, like what do I do? 0:25:19.200 --> 0:25:24.040 What do I do? Just so confused. And I'm the 0:25:24.040 --> 0:25:26.879 reason I bring that up is just like this stuff 0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:29.560 like I'll just be so honest, like I'm not obviously 0:25:29.560 --> 0:25:33.719 proud of it, but these questions, you know, began probably 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:37.680 even before I even propose, and I know, looking back 0:25:37.720 --> 0:25:39.280 on it now, that should have been like a clear 0:25:39.320 --> 0:25:42.600 sign to me. But I did know that I love 0:25:42.680 --> 0:25:45.240 Hannah hann I did know that I felt heartbreak in 0:25:45.240 --> 0:25:46.840 the past and then I could get over it. I 0:25:46.880 --> 0:25:49.040 would get over it. And did I want to possibly 0:25:49.119 --> 0:25:51.560 let this temporary pain that, yeah, I can't have time 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:53.760 to process this right now like a normal relationship and 0:25:53.800 --> 0:25:56.640 grieve it. Do I want to let this possibly take 0:25:56.680 --> 0:25:59.239 away something or prevent me from getting into something so 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.159 beautiful down the road for the rest of my life. 0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.720 I made the decision to go forward, and I guess, 0:26:04.760 --> 0:26:06.640 you know, kind of convinced myself that I was ready 0:26:06.640 --> 0:26:10.199 to propose to Hannahan. And again, I'm not proud of that, 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:13.560 but that's the truth. And I kept just holding on 0:26:13.640 --> 0:26:15.719 to the love that I had for her and just 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:19.880 what the potential and then I guess after the show's over, now, 0:26:19.920 --> 0:26:21.840 you know, we would do happy couples. And you know 0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:23.800 I got to see her, you know, three or four times, 0:26:23.880 --> 0:26:28.280 and during those visits, you know, I had I love 0:26:28.359 --> 0:26:31.399 like I love Hannah, and I truly I'm such a 0:26:31.400 --> 0:26:33.959 big fan of Hannahan and I always will be. UM. 0:26:34.240 --> 0:26:36.760 We've always had a great time together. I just think that, 0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:38.920 slowly but sure, that I just noticed that maybe we 0:26:38.920 --> 0:26:41.159 weren't as compatible as I thought we were. And I 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.280 say that in regards possibly just like the two of 0:26:43.359 --> 0:26:45.840 us challenging each other in a relationship, I just didn't 0:26:46.320 --> 0:26:49.200 I didn't necessarily feel it as much as I thought 0:26:49.200 --> 0:26:53.280 I was going to UM in those next couple of meetings, 0:26:53.280 --> 0:26:55.040 and listen, a little bit of it too was unresolved 0:26:55.040 --> 0:26:57.280 feelings for you know, for Madison, and that was the 0:26:57.320 --> 0:27:01.040 stuff that I struggled with like no other. So as 0:27:01.080 --> 0:27:03.880 crazy of an answer, you know, obviously it started even 0:27:03.920 --> 0:27:08.680 before UM. And that's not easy to admit, but that's 0:27:08.680 --> 0:27:15.080 the truth. And so I lied. Now I have questions. 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.600 I knew you were going to rage. Well, I I'm 0:27:18.640 --> 0:27:21.320 listening to you talk. Do you feel that you were 0:27:21.359 --> 0:27:27.919 pressured into proposing to Hannah An ask, yeah, I I 0:27:27.960 --> 0:27:30.159 think it was just my own self impost pressure. I 0:27:30.200 --> 0:27:33.200 really do think that, Like I, yeah, I did. I 0:27:33.760 --> 0:27:35.919 didn't need to come out of this. Was that no, 0:27:35.960 --> 0:27:37.880 go ahead? Sorry? I didn't like need to go into 0:27:37.920 --> 0:27:39.320 the show and like come out of engage and like 0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.520 if I don't like it really wasn't like that, But 0:27:42.280 --> 0:27:46.840 I don't know at that at the end there, I 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:49.840 just I saw such like a I really did. I 0:27:49.840 --> 0:27:52.960 saw all the potential in the world for an amazing relationship. 0:27:53.000 --> 0:27:56.120 I had never ever felt, ever felt the love from 0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:58.320 someone like Hannah and had showed me ever in my 0:27:58.480 --> 0:27:59.760 entire life, and that was one of the biggest things 0:27:59.800 --> 0:28:01.760 that I was looking for coming into this process, and 0:28:01.800 --> 0:28:05.240 she showered that on me like no other similarly to 0:28:05.240 --> 0:28:07.080 how I've felt like I've given that to women in 0:28:07.119 --> 0:28:09.399 the past, it haven't you know, haven't reciprocated to me. 0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.000 I finally found that, and I was like, I can't. 0:28:12.040 --> 0:28:13.719 I can't lose this girl. Like this girl is like 0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:16.880 she's just amazing in every way, She's perfect in every way. 0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:18.639 It almost seems like too good to be true. But 0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:22.000 that's just who Hannah Anne is. And so I put 0:28:22.000 --> 0:28:24.440 a lot of pressure on myself. I mean, I'm a 0:28:24.480 --> 0:28:26.960 little bit from the show. Yeah sure I can, Yeah, 0:28:26.960 --> 0:28:31.720 I can admit that, and um, yeah, it's just it's 0:28:31.760 --> 0:28:34.160 a tough tough week for me. So Peter, that last week, 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.520 especially that last day, then do you think, like, did 0:28:37.560 --> 0:28:39.280 it ever cross your mind to just say, you know, 0:28:39.400 --> 0:28:43.120 I still love Hannah Anne, even though I am heartbroken 0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:47.280 from Madison leaving. But instead of committing and you know, 0:28:47.320 --> 0:28:49.400 getting down on one knee and giving her that ring, 0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.480 did it ever cross your mind to just say, like, hey, 0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.800 let's stay together, Let's see where this goes. Let's not 0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.640 put the pressure of an engagement on this relationship, but 0:28:57.680 --> 0:29:00.800 I still want to see where are real relationship can go. 0:29:02.280 --> 0:29:05.920 It did. It totally did. And my thought process and 0:29:05.920 --> 0:29:08.560 that just was I felt a little bit of it, 0:29:08.800 --> 0:29:11.240 you know, and Grant looking back hand and probably would have, 0:29:11.280 --> 0:29:12.840 you know, wish that I would have done that, But 0:29:13.600 --> 0:29:15.400 in the moment, I was thinking, you know, it might 0:29:15.480 --> 0:29:17.840 just be I was trying to put myself in hand 0:29:17.960 --> 0:29:19.600 and shoes and like if someone said that to me, 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:22.120 like it would obviously pull me back and take a 0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.800 couple of steps back now thinking how serious you actually 0:29:24.840 --> 0:29:28.600 were in the relationship. And you know, a lot of 0:29:28.600 --> 0:29:31.000 this show too, it's like it's a beautiful, beautiful moment 0:29:31.040 --> 0:29:33.040 that you two can share together and remember for the 0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.240 rest of your lives. And while yes, I can admit 0:29:35.280 --> 0:29:36.720 that I was heartbroken and I was dealing with a 0:29:36.720 --> 0:29:38.720 lot of stuff at that time, again I kept looking 0:29:38.720 --> 0:29:41.160 to what could be with us, and I didn't want 0:29:41.160 --> 0:29:43.440 to possibly take a beautiful moment that we could look 0:29:43.480 --> 0:29:46.040 back on and I'd be like so happy that I 0:29:46.080 --> 0:29:48.400 did do it and we have it documented now, you know, 0:29:48.520 --> 0:29:50.920 for for the rest of our lives. Like that was 0:29:50.920 --> 0:29:52.760 a big reason why I wanted to do the show, was, 0:29:53.040 --> 0:29:55.080 you know, to hopefully have my story documented that I 0:29:55.120 --> 0:29:57.280 could pass down, you know, my kids and my grandkids 0:29:57.280 --> 0:29:59.880 and they could all see it. And again that's probably 0:30:00.160 --> 0:30:02.160 the best thinking, but that's what I was going through 0:30:02.160 --> 0:30:05.920 my head. So when we had Hannah Ann on the show, 0:30:06.760 --> 0:30:10.280 she even like she gave her side and her how 0:30:10.320 --> 0:30:13.400 it affected her and everything. And one of the things 0:30:13.400 --> 0:30:16.280 that she said that really stood out to us was 0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:20.520 that when your season started, that's when you started to 0:30:20.680 --> 0:30:23.720 question things. Maybe you were already questioning them internally, but 0:30:23.800 --> 0:30:26.440 you started to say things to her that made her 0:30:26.480 --> 0:30:28.680 feel like, Okay, maybe we aren't where I thought we were. 0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:33.320 So did making the season back because like first first 0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.120 maybe first episode you had your date with Madison. I 0:30:36.120 --> 0:30:39.720 think they structure was different. So watching that first date, 0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:42.560 is that when you started to say, oh, I need 0:30:42.600 --> 0:30:45.160 to actually start telling her how I feel. Is that 0:30:45.160 --> 0:30:47.480 when it started for you? Because then, and this is 0:30:47.480 --> 0:30:50.640 the follow up, the second episode was with Hannah Brown, 0:30:50.800 --> 0:30:53.600 and then she made that comment on stage, Oh, you 0:30:53.640 --> 0:30:55.960 felt like you need a closure with Hannah Brown, right, 0:30:57.120 --> 0:31:03.200 So I obviously was, you know, dealing with it internally, 0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:06.040 um in regards to just my feelings still from Madison 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:08.920 at that point, and I hadn't really vocalized that to her. Obviously. 0:31:08.920 --> 0:31:12.680 I when when I saw the first episode, it made 0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:14.640 it tough for me, It really didn't. Obviously, it was 0:31:14.680 --> 0:31:16.600 like a really great memory for me. It was a 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.760 great first, you know, one on one date with Madison. 0:31:18.800 --> 0:31:20.640 And that was again the first time that I I opened 0:31:20.680 --> 0:31:22.560 up to Hannah and about kind of where where I 0:31:22.600 --> 0:31:25.040 was struggling. And I struggled with that so much because 0:31:25.080 --> 0:31:27.200 that's the last thing I want to be putting on her. 0:31:27.760 --> 0:31:29.680 Is Yeah, She's like, you know, she's my person now, 0:31:29.880 --> 0:31:32.520 and you should feel comfortable leaning on that person and 0:31:32.520 --> 0:31:35.040 sharing anything with them and you know, venting to them. 0:31:35.040 --> 0:31:37.320 But it's like that's so inappropriate and so weird and 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:41.080 not what she wants to hear, especially them being the 0:31:41.080 --> 0:31:42.560 final two in the end. So I like, I was like, 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.640 how do I go about this the right way? Um? 0:31:44.920 --> 0:31:47.640 But then I just continued to open up and really 0:31:47.680 --> 0:31:49.280 let her know, like where I was struggling and why 0:31:49.320 --> 0:31:50.719 I felt what I felt. I just felt like I 0:31:50.720 --> 0:31:52.720 needed to tell her that and she needed to know. 0:31:52.960 --> 0:31:57.240 And M And then in regards to like you know, 0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:00.640 with Hannah Brown, M listen on stage when she made 0:32:00.640 --> 0:32:03.600 those comments, but and she she brought up Yeah, we 0:32:04.760 --> 0:32:09.000 brought up the closure with Hannah Brown. True. What that 0:32:09.120 --> 0:32:12.040 was in reference to though, was so we had watched 0:32:13.120 --> 0:32:16.560 the first two episodes, I think, like in December we 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:18.680 had gone like the copy before obviously it all aired, 0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:22.560 and we were watching it at our first happy Couple weekend, 0:32:22.960 --> 0:32:25.640 and I guess Hannah Brown had been given the copy too, 0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:28.680 says she watched it. And then Hannah Brown had reached 0:32:28.680 --> 0:32:31.040 out to me on Instagram and direct message me and 0:32:31.080 --> 0:32:33.960 said that, hey, like I had just seen the first 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:37.479 episode that was really rough, tough to watch, like, you know, like, 0:32:37.520 --> 0:32:39.040 how are you doing with all that? Like I don't 0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:42.200 know how I feel about it? And so then when 0:32:42.200 --> 0:32:44.000 I got that, that's when I went to Hannah Ann 0:32:44.080 --> 0:32:46.000 and I was like, hey, listen, Hannah Brown had reached 0:32:46.040 --> 0:32:47.920 out to me. I want to see if you're comfortable 0:32:47.920 --> 0:32:50.479 with me like continuing to talk and possibly give her closure, 0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:52.960 give me closure and all this because of how everything ended, 0:32:53.080 --> 0:32:55.560 would you be okay with that? And she, you know, 0:32:55.640 --> 0:33:00.040 obviously was a little like uneasy about it, understandably, and 0:33:00.240 --> 0:33:01.720 but finally I was like, listen as long just don't 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:03.640 see you in person, but yeah, you can you guys 0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.239 can talk about it and and you know, handle all 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:09.120 that stuff. So is it okay? Thanks? And then you know, 0:33:09.240 --> 0:33:11.800 Hannah and I, Hannah Brown and I just continue to 0:33:11.840 --> 0:33:14.440 talk through things. And she had been getting some like 0:33:14.760 --> 0:33:18.280 negative reactions from the you know, from the first episode 0:33:18.280 --> 0:33:20.040 in the second one when I actually started airing too, 0:33:20.080 --> 0:33:22.400 and so we're just being supportive of each other. I've 0:33:22.400 --> 0:33:25.160 always been, you know, that way for Hannah Brown as 0:33:25.200 --> 0:33:26.960 she's been for me. And that's what that was. In 0:33:27.040 --> 0:33:31.120 regards to what kind of closure in that scenario were 0:33:31.160 --> 0:33:33.840 you looking for? Because it seems like the way that 0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.040 you guys left it on the show when you know 0:33:36.120 --> 0:33:38.360 she was in your dressing room and who has had 0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:41.480 that moment, it seems like it ended there. So what 0:33:41.560 --> 0:33:44.560 kind of closure for me as a viewer? Like what 0:33:44.640 --> 0:33:47.440 was missing? Like what did you both still need? I guess, well, 0:33:47.520 --> 0:33:49.160 I know you can't speak for Hannah Brown, but what 0:33:49.200 --> 0:33:54.280 did you need in that instance? Right? Ums? And when 0:33:54.280 --> 0:33:56.800 I when I like, I guess when I say closure, um, 0:33:58.520 --> 0:34:00.560 I just like I had brought that word up to 0:34:00.960 --> 0:34:03.880 Hannah and just because Hannah Brown was expressing to me 0:34:03.960 --> 0:34:05.960 that she didn't feel good about watching the episode, So 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:09.239 like for me, I was, you know, I was, I 0:34:09.360 --> 0:34:11.400 was moved on and I really was, and I was, 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.880 you know, at the end of the show, I kept thinking, 0:34:13.880 --> 0:34:15.439 to be honest, I kept thinking, they're gonna bring Hanah 0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:17.799 Brown at the finale and they were going to somehow sure, 0:34:17.840 --> 0:34:20.080 why not possibly see you know what I would do? 0:34:20.360 --> 0:34:22.440 But I really was like I had had the closure 0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.799 that I needed. Was it tough to watch absolutely, but 0:34:25.160 --> 0:34:27.880 closure wasn't one hundred. It wasn't necessarily for me. Um. 0:34:28.719 --> 0:34:33.560 But back to that first episode and that whole date. Honestly, Um, 0:34:34.120 --> 0:34:36.560 we just ran out of time and we had to 0:34:36.560 --> 0:34:38.759 go to a night portion of the date later on, 0:34:39.120 --> 0:34:42.160 and a conversation had to get wrapped up. It wasn't 0:34:42.160 --> 0:34:44.120 necessarily in our doing. We were told we had to, 0:34:44.480 --> 0:34:47.680 we had to finish it, and and so kind of 0:34:47.760 --> 0:34:50.360 left just like it was a little bit weird and 0:34:50.440 --> 0:34:53.120 odd because here we are, and we're obviously two people 0:34:53.120 --> 0:34:55.160 that have had strong feelings for each other in the past, 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:57.960 and we're reminiscing on that and not knowing what to do. 0:34:58.280 --> 0:35:01.120 I told people like in that it didn't get aired, 0:35:01.120 --> 0:35:03.080 but I told her, like, I'll leave the show right now. 0:35:03.120 --> 0:35:05.200 I got to the Bachelor if like, if there's something 0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:10.000 you wanted pursue, and um, you know, you go from 0:35:10.000 --> 0:35:11.839 that and you have that serious, serious conversation and then 0:35:11.880 --> 0:35:13.719 it literally just was like, all right, guys, it, time's up. 0:35:13.880 --> 0:35:15.480 We have to we have to wrap this. And so 0:35:16.080 --> 0:35:19.239 we gave each other a hug and um and just 0:35:19.280 --> 0:35:21.400 like wish each other well, and then I left and 0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:24.000 that's how it ended. It was like not the most 0:35:24.000 --> 0:35:25.759 ideal way to end something like that. Yeah, well in 0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:27.759 that on the show too, And what we saw is 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:30.600 that basically when Hannah Hannah b said that, you know, 0:35:30.600 --> 0:35:33.439 I single out the end of this talk to her. 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:36.040 So since then, I mean, obviously we don't know what's 0:35:36.080 --> 0:35:39.000 going on with her and Tyler and whatnot, but I mean, 0:35:39.160 --> 0:35:41.040 does that offer soul stand ord? Have you even heard 0:35:41.040 --> 0:35:44.640 from her to this day? We've talked since I did 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.360 get her number from when she started DM and me 0:35:47.400 --> 0:35:49.840 on Instagram, and you know, we've just been very very 0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:53.759 supportive of each other. I saw her at Dylan and 0:35:53.880 --> 0:35:58.799 Hannah's engagement party and just really just really cordial and um, 0:35:59.480 --> 0:36:03.520 you know, there's no love lost there at all. And um, 0:36:03.640 --> 0:36:05.200 she's just been someone that I've been able to lean 0:36:05.239 --> 0:36:07.359 on a lot, and she's like literally always been there 0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.880 for me. Does any advice I needed? Just event like, 0:36:09.960 --> 0:36:11.640 she's been someone that I've been able to go to 0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:14.440 and is a really safe space and very grateful for 0:36:14.640 --> 0:36:17.600 her doing that for me. But there's nothing there between 0:36:17.640 --> 0:36:22.759 the two of you. No, nothing, nothing romantically as you know, 0:36:22.840 --> 0:36:30.120 pursuing each other. Um no, great, So Madison, Wait are 0:36:30.120 --> 0:36:32.080 you done with Hannah Anne. Yes, so yeah, we can 0:36:32.400 --> 0:36:34.600 I think of rocking and rolling. Well, oh wait, I 0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:36.520 guess I will ask you. Have you spoken to Hannah 0:36:36.520 --> 0:36:41.120 and since the finale? Um? Not since the finale? So 0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:47.000 just when? When? When the breakup day happened? Um? You know, 0:36:47.120 --> 0:36:49.080 she obviously left and then later that day it was 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:50.880 you know, I just sent her a long text was 0:36:50.920 --> 0:36:53.520 kind of obviously just apologizing again, just saying essentially that 0:36:53.560 --> 0:36:55.520 I'll always me and my family will always be there 0:36:55.520 --> 0:36:57.360 for her no matter what. And I sent it's a 0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:59.000 long text to the you know, her family as well. 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.600 We had a group text change going then heard back 0:37:01.640 --> 0:37:04.560 from anyone. I called Hnnahn once later that day. Obviously 0:37:04.600 --> 0:37:05.759 she didn't you know, she didn't pick her up, she 0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.880 didn't really want to talk to me, and um, yeah, 0:37:07.920 --> 0:37:09.880 so then I saw her Afar. I talked with her 0:37:09.960 --> 0:37:12.839 dad a couple of times. He had called me on 0:37:12.840 --> 0:37:16.080 two occasions leading up to Afar, just kind of trying 0:37:16.080 --> 0:37:18.920 to ask about, um, where my head was at and 0:37:19.080 --> 0:37:21.440 what possibly might happen, what he could expect, just as 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:24.719 you know, protection protecting his daughter, which I understood, um, 0:37:24.800 --> 0:37:26.200 and I tried to give him as much as I 0:37:26.200 --> 0:37:29.680 could but obviously contray. Actually I wasn't necessary allowed to 0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:32.959 do so much, so that was that was tough for me. Um. 0:37:33.040 --> 0:37:36.880 But I haven't talked to Hannah and after Yeah, and 0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:38.600 I mean I guess I get that and rightfully so 0:37:38.719 --> 0:37:41.239 like her new brand now too is you know, she 0:37:41.320 --> 0:37:44.360 stood up to you and you know, found her voice 0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:47.520 and you know, moved on from that. So I think 0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:52.799 it will you know, be backtracking exactly, you know, that's no, 0:37:53.400 --> 0:37:55.759 I believe me. I want her to just thrive and 0:37:55.760 --> 0:37:58.560 just absolutely have the most amazing, beautiful life ever find 0:37:58.640 --> 0:38:01.200 her person, and I truly like, I love that girl. 0:38:01.280 --> 0:38:04.080 I always will and no matter how she feels about me, 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.279 m I'll always always want the best herd Well is 0:38:07.360 --> 0:38:11.719 Kelly friends with Hannah Anne and Madison. She Yeah, she is, 0:38:12.000 --> 0:38:15.200 Um was she and maybe she's not now seeing the 0:38:15.239 --> 0:38:20.680 new circumstances. No, Kelly and Hannah Anna talked and they're 0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:23.839 they're they're very yeah, Corgil, it's been very friendly. Um, 0:38:24.719 --> 0:38:27.759 you know she's uh, Hannah Anne's been you know, I 0:38:27.800 --> 0:38:30.440 guess understanding of everything from what I've heard, and I 0:38:30.480 --> 0:38:32.560 know they have talked. I don't know about with Madison, 0:38:32.680 --> 0:38:35.120 but I do know that Hannah, Anne and Kelly are 0:38:35.160 --> 0:38:37.840 good good. I like to hear that. I want to know. 0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:39.759 I mean, obviously we don't know what's going on with 0:38:39.800 --> 0:38:42.879 filming future seasons because of this whole coronavirus going on. 0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:46.640 But like, if Hannah Anne or Madison or any of 0:38:46.640 --> 0:38:49.400 the other girls like Kelly or I'm sorry Kelsey for 0:38:49.440 --> 0:38:52.080 that matter, where to go on paradise or potentially become 0:38:52.080 --> 0:38:55.359 a Bouchhart in the future, would that be weird for you? 0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:57.880 Or are you at the point where you do truly 0:38:57.880 --> 0:38:59.400 wish them the best and you're just like you know 0:38:59.400 --> 0:39:03.600 what you do, I promise, like I really am at 0:39:03.640 --> 0:39:07.920 that point. I still obviously, like I know how I 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.799 felt about them just a few weeks ago, a few 0:39:10.840 --> 0:39:14.279 months ago, And I say, I've said that before, like 0:39:14.360 --> 0:39:17.920 I was, I asked that question from Chris Hannah Brown 0:39:18.040 --> 0:39:20.040 season Like it's the same for them. I will always 0:39:20.080 --> 0:39:21.960 have love in my heart for them, Like they are 0:39:21.960 --> 0:39:24.280 two very important people to me that through two months 0:39:24.280 --> 0:39:28.759 we had an amazing, amazing experience together in relationship and um, 0:39:28.920 --> 0:39:31.760 but I trust me, like I would that be weird 0:39:32.000 --> 0:39:35.600 obviously seeing them probably with someone else, Yeah, I think so, 0:39:35.920 --> 0:39:38.520 But I really, I just want them to be happy 0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:42.120 and UM just want the best. I think it would 0:39:42.160 --> 0:39:44.520 be weird if it depending on who it was, right Like, 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.680 if you saw them with another Batter Nation person, it 0:39:46.719 --> 0:39:48.799 would be like whoa. If it was yeah, it's one 0:39:48.840 --> 0:39:50.759 of the guys I think from like Hannah Brown season, 0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.440 it might be a little bit stranger. But I can't 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.879 you know right then, you'd be pot kettle. Look look 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.520 where you are right now. You know exactly exactly, And 0:39:58.840 --> 0:40:08.680 I'm not trying to be hypocrite all um, Okay, Madison, 0:40:09.680 --> 0:40:13.200 So where to even start with this? I will preface 0:40:13.239 --> 0:40:16.880 this by saying I was so pro Matt, you and 0:40:16.960 --> 0:40:22.600 Madison together until you all had the second date and 0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.720 she spoke about her faith. Totally fine, I'm a Christian 0:40:26.719 --> 0:40:31.520 as well. And then I guess it was the next 0:40:31.560 --> 0:40:35.120 week where then she told you she gave you the ultimatum, 0:40:35.320 --> 0:40:39.200 call it which you want, it's what it was, but 0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.000 didn't but then didn't tell you that she was saving 0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.560 herself for marriage. Okay, So that's when things started to 0:40:45.640 --> 0:40:48.680 change to me, because things don't make sense, and I think, 0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:52.240 and my hope is to get some clarity here because 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.120 what you guys say, and by that I mean you 0:40:55.160 --> 0:40:59.799 and Madison based on what she does or you do 0:41:00.400 --> 0:41:02.759 doesn't add up and doesn't make like they don't match up. 0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.560 Your words don't match up with your actions. And I 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:07.120 think that's where I get confused. So then I have 0:41:07.239 --> 0:41:11.480 to deduce, like logically, try to figure out, Okay, well, 0:41:11.480 --> 0:41:13.799 then this is what makes sense based on actions, right, 0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:19.400 Actions speak louder than words. So I'm trying, maybe Becca, 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:21.279 you go in because I'm trying to figure out where 0:41:21.320 --> 0:41:23.799 I want to start with this with this line of 0:41:23.880 --> 0:41:27.399 questioning to try to understand your relationship with Madison. Well, 0:41:27.400 --> 0:41:29.480 and I think this is a good point. You use 0:41:29.560 --> 0:41:32.120 the word ultimatum Rachel and Peter. When she threw that 0:41:32.200 --> 0:41:34.800 out there, you said, you know, I agree to disagree 0:41:34.800 --> 0:41:37.799 with you. We haven't had a conversation with you, and 0:41:37.840 --> 0:41:40.040 we haven't had one with Madison yet. I think when 0:41:40.080 --> 0:41:43.600 that episode aired, I believe that week we probably had 0:41:43.719 --> 0:41:46.000 talked to Chris Harrison or something, and he obviously gave 0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.879 his take. But it's not you or Madison. And so 0:41:48.960 --> 0:41:51.919 you felt like it wasn't an ultimatum. But what makes 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:57.359 you say that? Just because if I were to say that, 0:41:57.520 --> 0:41:59.960 and I feel like I would just be a hypocrite 0:42:00.080 --> 0:42:03.200 because the very first night of the entire you know, 0:42:03.520 --> 0:42:06.200 the show, that's opening night in the Mansion. In my 0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:08.640 opening toast to all the women, I asked them to please, 0:42:08.800 --> 0:42:12.160 whatever is on your heart, always feel comfortable sharing that 0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.560 with me. Don't hold back, whether it's good, bad, ugly. 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.879 You think it's going to hurt my feelings, piss me off, 0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:19.200 or make me happy, or you're feeling it for me. Please, 0:42:19.280 --> 0:42:21.080 I want this to be an open connection where you 0:42:21.080 --> 0:42:24.200 can feel comfortable. And so yeah, it was later, way 0:42:24.280 --> 0:42:27.600 later on in the whole journey there, but all that 0:42:27.680 --> 0:42:30.839 Madison was doing, she wasn't telling me you have to 0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:34.239 do this or this. She simply had something on her 0:42:34.239 --> 0:42:37.000 heart that she felt I should know. We were in 0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:41.239 a relationship, and in my opinion, that's completely acceptable for 0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:44.600 someone to express how they're feeling. And if I were 0:42:44.640 --> 0:42:47.279 to do something, it would make it really difficult for 0:42:47.320 --> 0:42:50.400 them to continue and they'd possibly have to reevaluate. She 0:42:50.480 --> 0:42:52.279 was never making a you have to do this or that. 0:42:52.400 --> 0:42:54.000 She said, and this is how I'm going to feel. 0:42:54.000 --> 0:42:55.839 I feel like you should know this. It's important because 0:42:55.880 --> 0:43:00.879 we are dating. If you do this then this, right, 0:43:01.320 --> 0:43:04.200 that's an ultimatum. You can call it whatever you want. 0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:06.799 It doesn't mean that she can't express it to you, 0:43:07.680 --> 0:43:10.840 like to express how she's feeling, you know. And I 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.880 don't want to argue whether it is an ultimatum or 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:18.000 it isn't. My issue more so is did you feel 0:43:18.000 --> 0:43:21.000 a certain way knowing that you know you and Madison 0:43:21.040 --> 0:43:24.640 have this relationship. You constantly defended her with your family, 0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:27.160 saying you don't know Madison like I do. So obviously, 0:43:27.200 --> 0:43:29.400 you guys shared a lot that we didn't get to see, 0:43:29.600 --> 0:43:32.120 and we didn't really see the development of your relationship. 0:43:32.440 --> 0:43:35.839 So did it not bother you that she could be 0:43:35.920 --> 0:43:41.400 so upfront about everything? Except that? No, that did. And 0:43:41.440 --> 0:43:45.000 I asked her, you know, why she didn't express that 0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:47.640 stuff to me earlier on why she waited so long? 0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:50.680 And I do think that it would have probably made 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.279 a difference in possing my actions moving forward. I can't 0:43:53.320 --> 0:43:55.839 say for sure, because I truly wanted to stay so 0:43:55.960 --> 0:43:58.600 present and I'm intentional with each of the other two 0:43:58.600 --> 0:44:04.160 relationships going forward and that week, but yeah, I question that, 0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:09.000 and her response to me was and I can I 0:44:09.000 --> 0:44:14.640 can understand it is the timing of our relationship started 0:44:14.719 --> 0:44:17.280 off with the first date. We were the very first 0:44:17.280 --> 0:44:19.360 one on one. Maybe not something you bring up on 0:44:19.400 --> 0:44:22.520 the very first date when you okay, so it wasn't 0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:26.080 going to happen there group dates during the daytime, it 0:44:26.120 --> 0:44:28.759 doesn't happen. You're having a fun time doing something in 0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.719 the night portions if you do see the person, because 0:44:31.719 --> 0:44:34.600 it's not always guaranteed it's a quick maybe ten minutes, 0:44:34.800 --> 0:44:37.719 it's not necessarily something super super allowable to have like 0:44:37.760 --> 0:44:40.759 a really deep important conversation. I agree as there. The 0:44:40.760 --> 0:44:42.840 next date wasn't the one on one, was in Peru 0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:45.440 and we had an amazing part of the day and 0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:48.040 then the night portion. She did open up a lot 0:44:48.080 --> 0:44:49.799 to me about stuff and her faith, and she could 0:44:49.840 --> 0:44:51.920 have brought it up there. I could have seen that 0:44:52.000 --> 0:44:53.600 was the one opportunity for her to do it if 0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.600 she wanted to. I think I maybe And she told 0:44:56.600 --> 0:44:58.600 me if she's like, I wasn't expecting you to kind 0:44:58.640 --> 0:45:00.360 of like have a conversation and go way. When I 0:45:00.400 --> 0:45:02.040 expressed her that I was falling in love with her, 0:45:02.239 --> 0:45:03.960 I think I might might have thrown her off a 0:45:03.960 --> 0:45:06.440 little bit in regards what she fully wanted to get out. 0:45:06.520 --> 0:45:10.320 Maybe maybe not, and then it just to be honest, 0:45:10.360 --> 0:45:12.359 it's like you look for the times where it could 0:45:12.360 --> 0:45:14.239 have been really appropriate because we don't get time off 0:45:14.280 --> 0:45:17.719 camera for her to have told me it. It was 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:20.359 kind of difficult just how the timing worked out. Do 0:45:20.400 --> 0:45:23.160 you think religion is a difficult conversation to discuss with 0:45:23.239 --> 0:45:27.400 someone when you don't know what their belief is? Yeah, exactly, 0:45:27.560 --> 0:45:30.120 I do too. And when she had that second date 0:45:30.160 --> 0:45:34.799 with you, I thought, Wow, good for her. You know, 0:45:35.000 --> 0:45:37.720 she's like, this is what I believe, this is my faith, 0:45:38.920 --> 0:45:41.160 this is what I want out of a husband, And 0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:45.080 to me, it was the golden opportunity to express all 0:45:45.120 --> 0:45:48.560 of it. And that's why I'm very curious as to 0:45:48.640 --> 0:45:50.880 what you thought about that, because I thought, well, why 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:53.799 would you hold that back? You have admitted that it 0:45:53.840 --> 0:45:57.560 probably would have affected your decision moving forward. You don't 0:45:57.600 --> 0:46:00.440 know for sure, because hindsight we just don't know, but 0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:04.120 it would have made you kind of go, huh, okay, 0:46:04.200 --> 0:46:08.640 that's that's I wasn't expecting that, especially since you were 0:46:08.800 --> 0:46:10.960 you said you wanted the women to be open from 0:46:11.040 --> 0:46:14.280 night one, and you gave that speech to the women 0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:17.080 that first night you also were very honest with them. 0:46:17.280 --> 0:46:21.480 You're a very open person, intimate, believe in having that 0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:25.959 intimacy with your significant other, and you don't you don't 0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:27.640 hold back from that. I mean, you're in front of 0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:35.200 your family. So I think my question was when that 0:46:35.239 --> 0:46:37.359 when she said when she didn't tell you? But then 0:46:37.400 --> 0:46:40.239 as from the audience, we knew at that point that 0:46:40.280 --> 0:46:44.120 she was saving herself for marriage. I just didn't think 0:46:44.160 --> 0:46:48.399 that it was fair to go on this season with 0:46:48.440 --> 0:46:52.920 a man who has expressed is sexual, has expressed that 0:46:52.960 --> 0:46:56.440 intimacy is important to him. So it's not like you're 0:46:56.480 --> 0:47:00.960 going on Sean Lowe season, right, He's going on your season. Okay, 0:47:01.040 --> 0:47:03.160 Peter sex at all in Bill four times, blah bla 0:47:03.160 --> 0:47:05.799 blah blah blah blah blah. It's just saying that's how 0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.600 you were, that's how you were build So America, I 0:47:08.640 --> 0:47:11.040 get it. Yeah, So she comes on your season knowing 0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:13.280 that she wants to save yourself, knowing that you're this person. 0:47:13.360 --> 0:47:15.839 Did you ever question yourself? Why would you come on 0:47:15.920 --> 0:47:20.000 my season knowing that I'm this way, only to possibly 0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:27.520 eliminate yourself for that reason? Definitely question. It brought up 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.520 a lot of questions to her in kind of reference 0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:32.839 to that, and I think to kind of start with, 0:47:33.760 --> 0:47:35.480 you know, I remember asking her, like, so, why did 0:47:35.480 --> 0:47:36.880 you because I've heard a lot of people saying, you know, 0:47:37.280 --> 0:47:40.480 you you most likely knew Peter and like what he 0:47:40.560 --> 0:47:42.319 kind of was about and the person he was and 0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.520 what he was comfortable with, what he wasn't comfortable with doing. 0:47:44.960 --> 0:47:46.560 Why did you feel like that would be the right 0:47:46.640 --> 0:47:49.239 person to go on the Bachelor for it? And you 0:47:49.280 --> 0:47:51.520 know she came back and she wasn't that just it 0:47:51.560 --> 0:47:54.560 is annoying to her to hear because she's never been 0:47:54.600 --> 0:47:57.640 someone that wanted to judge, Like I truly don't feel 0:47:57.680 --> 0:48:00.239 like Madison is a judgmental person, like at all. She 0:48:00.280 --> 0:48:02.239 can be very you know, prideful, and that's like a 0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.880 great quality too, but she it's not someone that I 0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:10.680 think is is a huge judger. And um, you know 0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:12.440 she said she did listen, I didn't want to just 0:48:12.480 --> 0:48:13.920 because of what your past was, Like, I'm not going 0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:16.040 to judge you at all and that hold anything against you, 0:48:16.080 --> 0:48:18.040 Like I if this was going to work for us, 0:48:18.239 --> 0:48:21.839 let's take from that point on moving forward of of 0:48:23.360 --> 0:48:25.560 you know, any possible judgment if you wanted to use 0:48:25.800 --> 0:48:28.160 she had. You know, she actually had been someone that 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:31.440 had been I guess nominated by like a family friend 0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.920 to come on the show, and it wasn't necessarily her 0:48:34.160 --> 0:48:35.920 at first, and she didn't know she wanted to do it, 0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:37.279 and she thought about it a lot and kind of 0:48:37.360 --> 0:48:38.960 let the process run and then until she had to 0:48:38.960 --> 0:48:40.720 actually make a decision if this is something she wanted 0:48:40.719 --> 0:48:42.880 to do, and then she was. You know, from what 0:48:42.960 --> 0:48:44.640 she told me, it was something that she just decided, 0:48:44.680 --> 0:48:46.840 like why not. You know this this could be a 0:48:46.920 --> 0:48:48.960 you know, an amazing opportunity to go find someone. Why 0:48:49.000 --> 0:48:50.960 not will work? I have no idea, but why not? 0:48:52.160 --> 0:48:54.680 I think maybe a little bit of it, if I 0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:59.480 had to guess, was her in the beginning thinking I 0:48:59.480 --> 0:49:00.840 don't know if this is my person, but like, this 0:49:00.880 --> 0:49:03.120 could be a really cool opportunity. I'll be fair. But 0:49:03.239 --> 0:49:06.279 I do know that that quickly changed with her and 0:49:06.360 --> 0:49:08.600 she quickly realized, no, this is someone that I really 0:49:08.600 --> 0:49:12.200 actually am feeling something for. And again, I don't think 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:14.680 there's really anything wrong with that, because people that you 0:49:14.680 --> 0:49:16.000 want to say, oh, I came on just for you, 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:17.359 and I knew I was in love with you from 0:49:17.360 --> 0:49:19.839 the beginning. I don't know if I buy so her 0:49:19.880 --> 0:49:25.200 honesty with that is something I appreciated. Yeah, I'm not 0:49:25.239 --> 0:49:27.160 trying to like defend her too much in all this. 0:49:28.080 --> 0:49:30.839 I'm just very curious. We haven't had an opportunity to 0:49:30.840 --> 0:49:34.600 talk to her, So I'm just curious as to what 0:49:34.680 --> 0:49:37.319 your thoughts were about that, because I totally agree with that. 0:49:37.360 --> 0:49:39.040 You have no idea at the beginning how it's going 0:49:39.120 --> 0:49:42.120 to be, and then you slowly start to see yourself fall, 0:49:42.640 --> 0:49:47.279 which is usually in most cases, and but then my 0:49:48.560 --> 0:49:52.360 thought is still, okay, So why couldn't you be fully 0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:56.840 open about what is so important to you and what 0:49:57.000 --> 0:50:00.759 you so value. If you value it like that, why 0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.600 are you waiting until you know the thirteenth hour right 0:50:04.760 --> 0:50:08.360 to finally say something? I wish? I get confused. I 0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.839 do wish you would have I and I think I 0:50:11.880 --> 0:50:14.440 think maybe the fear might have been she would have 0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:16.719 gone home, and she didn't want to go home for 0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:19.759 whatever reason that may be. That's it's, oh my god, 0:50:19.760 --> 0:50:22.720 if I tell him this, maybe I'll go home. Yeah, 0:50:22.760 --> 0:50:28.239 that's that's totally fair. Um. I she wouldn't have gone home, 0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:32.239 but I could totally see her in that moment. Yeah, 0:50:32.360 --> 0:50:35.440 having those thoughts. Do you think and this is something 0:50:35.480 --> 0:50:39.319 that we've talked about obviously without you and trying to 0:50:39.360 --> 0:50:42.080 say like the what ifs, So say you get you 0:50:42.560 --> 0:50:45.719 got to that fantasy suite a week. Obviously, that week 0:50:45.719 --> 0:50:48.440 in itself was very different for your season because this 0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:50.440 was the one time all of the girls were still 0:50:50.520 --> 0:50:53.200 living together under the same roof during that very weird 0:50:53.320 --> 0:50:58.080 intimate week. Had it gone differently, and I know you 0:50:58.120 --> 0:51:01.000 don't necessarily have a say in the dates and who 0:51:01.040 --> 0:51:04.399 goes win, but had Medicine gone first, had you spent 0:51:04.480 --> 0:51:07.640 that first overnight with her, maybe just talking, maybe just 0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:10.960 getting to know one another, and went on after that 0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.040 with the other two women, do you think anything would 0:51:13.040 --> 0:51:15.600 have panned out differently? Do you think she still would 0:51:15.600 --> 0:51:17.600 have had that moment where she potentially was like, look, 0:51:17.600 --> 0:51:19.960 I can't do this, I have to remove myself. Or 0:51:19.960 --> 0:51:23.160 do you think that would not have taken place had 0:51:23.160 --> 0:51:26.920 she gone first? Yeah, No, it would It wouldn't or 0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.080 it would have changed things that she would have gone first, 0:51:30.680 --> 0:51:34.160 and I would have known that obviously, we would have 0:51:34.160 --> 0:51:37.640 probably most likely I discussed that in the fantasy suite. 0:51:37.719 --> 0:51:41.560 Even look now, knowing what I know, if I would 0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:43.160 have had a fantasy suite with her. You know, we 0:51:43.160 --> 0:51:45.200 wouldn't have spent the night with each other. We would 0:51:45.200 --> 0:51:47.040 have she would have been comfortable with talking with me, 0:51:47.080 --> 0:51:49.120 you know, for a couple of hours. But that's something 0:51:49.160 --> 0:51:50.759 also that you know she had mentioned me she is 0:51:50.800 --> 0:51:53.680 saving for marriage. Is just that kind of time just 0:51:53.719 --> 0:51:57.600 spent with you know, someone overnight, even with nothing physically happening, 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:03.440 something I can totally respect. But yeah, if I, if 0:52:03.440 --> 0:52:05.520 I would have had her first, I would have a 0:52:05.520 --> 0:52:09.360 little bit more knowledge about everything. And again, the hardest 0:52:09.360 --> 0:52:11.120 part for me was I always tried my best to 0:52:11.160 --> 0:52:14.000 be so intentional with each relationship and just get lost 0:52:14.000 --> 0:52:16.000 in that relationship. That's what I did from the day 0:52:16.000 --> 0:52:17.480 one till the very end. That's how I felt I 0:52:17.520 --> 0:52:22.319 could actually make this work for me. And but yeah, 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:24.000 if you asked that question, yeah I think it would 0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.120 have been different. But if so, if that were the case, 0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:29.680 then and you know, you had Medicine's fantasy sweet night first, 0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:32.520 move on to the next two girls. I mean, because 0:52:32.520 --> 0:52:35.640 you yourself admitted when she asked you that night, you know, like, 0:52:35.719 --> 0:52:37.520 have you been intimate with these two other women? And 0:52:37.600 --> 0:52:40.560 you and I will say, I think you handled that situation, yeah, 0:52:40.600 --> 0:52:43.440 I did. Like, kudos to you for how you approached it, 0:52:43.520 --> 0:52:46.919 because that's a really, really tough situation had like would 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:49.640 would you have gone in and still been intimate with 0:52:49.680 --> 0:52:52.040 those girls because of you know, it's it's an important 0:52:52.040 --> 0:52:55.960 part to relationships, as you've said yourself, And so I 0:52:56.000 --> 0:53:01.719 don't under like I can't imagine you not having the 0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:04.359 same reaction in a moment and evening with the other 0:53:04.400 --> 0:53:09.080 two girls. Like for me, it's like, if you want 0:53:09.080 --> 0:53:10.520 it's going to be intentional. If you're going to be 0:53:10.520 --> 0:53:14.200 intentional and put yourself in every single relationship right, well, 0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:17.320 it's inevitable. And it's like you want to exhaust every 0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:19.359 relationship till you get to the end if that's where 0:53:19.360 --> 0:53:21.000 it needs, if that's what you need to do to 0:53:21.040 --> 0:53:23.520 get there, to figure out each relationship and what is 0:53:23.640 --> 0:53:25.719 truly best for you at the end of this, you 0:53:25.800 --> 0:53:28.000 probably would have still had to do the same things. 0:53:28.080 --> 0:53:30.520 And so in my mind then it makes it tough 0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.719 to see like had she gone first, yes, maybe you 0:53:32.719 --> 0:53:34.480 would have gone into the next two nights and the 0:53:34.480 --> 0:53:37.879 next two dates with the other two women knowing how 0:53:37.880 --> 0:53:40.560 she would have felt. But at the end of the day, 0:53:40.640 --> 0:53:44.879 like things still probably would have taken place to I think, 0:53:44.920 --> 0:53:47.960 like allow for her to still have that moment of 0:53:48.000 --> 0:53:51.040 being like, maybe I do need to remove myself. No, 0:53:51.400 --> 0:53:54.680 I think you're right. Yeah, I can't say for sure 0:53:54.880 --> 0:53:56.879 what I would have done. I guess I'll take that back. 0:53:56.920 --> 0:54:00.480 I do. I believe it possibly could have changed things. Definitely, Listen, 0:54:00.520 --> 0:54:02.360 would have given it a lot more gravity if I 0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:07.239 would have known that stuff before. And listen, Peter, would 0:54:07.280 --> 0:54:09.280 you have pulled a Colton and just ended the season 0:54:09.320 --> 0:54:12.560 and beent like I'm all in with this one girl. No, 0:54:12.680 --> 0:54:16.040 I'm not gonna say that, but I just again, it 0:54:16.040 --> 0:54:17.799 would have just given it a lot more gravity the 0:54:17.840 --> 0:54:21.799 whole situation. And but then what you guys are saying, 0:54:22.520 --> 0:54:24.440 that's what I said as well, Like while I was, 0:54:24.840 --> 0:54:27.200 you know, on this show, like I wanted to be intentional. 0:54:27.239 --> 0:54:29.080 I wanted to get lost in that relationship and explore 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:31.839 everything I needed to. I've always felt, and I still feel, 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:34.120 like intimacy is a huge important part of relationship. I 0:54:34.200 --> 0:54:36.319 have different views obviously than I see in regards to 0:54:36.320 --> 0:54:37.840 that and what I'm saving it for not saving it for. 0:54:38.160 --> 0:54:40.439 And that's totally fine that we have those different views. 0:54:40.440 --> 0:54:44.640 But for me, I guess, like you sayah, hindsight, twine, twine, 0:54:44.680 --> 0:54:46.680 We'll never know because I'll never be put in that 0:54:46.719 --> 0:54:49.799 situation again. She says that you're not compatible. She talks 0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:52.360 about you guys not be compatible. There's just too many differences. 0:54:52.400 --> 0:54:55.440 You just have two different lifestyles, right. Whether she realized 0:54:55.480 --> 0:54:57.719 that with you, with talking to your family, that was 0:54:57.760 --> 0:55:00.640 the conclusion that she came to, and so she felt 0:55:00.640 --> 0:55:03.799 it was best to self eliminate. I actually agreed with 0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:07.800 that decision. So then we see what happens move forward. 0:55:08.200 --> 0:55:11.000 You engaged to Hannah Anne, you break up with Hannah Anne. 0:55:11.680 --> 0:55:14.360 Then the moment you break up with Hannah Anne, what 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:17.240 is your thought? Is your thought? I can go pursue 0:55:17.280 --> 0:55:20.239 Madison or you did you reach out to her? Tell 0:55:20.280 --> 0:55:23.439 the truth, because I've seen these rumors that apparently y'all 0:55:23.440 --> 0:55:28.520 have mutual friends and y'all were hanging out. So go ahead, Yeah, no, 0:55:28.640 --> 0:55:30.719 we So we do have a mutual friend that she 0:55:30.760 --> 0:55:33.759 had met on the first date. So one of my 0:55:33.760 --> 0:55:36.560 close friends from high school. She had met her on 0:55:36.560 --> 0:55:38.799 that first date of my parents dylarnual ceremony, and they 0:55:38.840 --> 0:55:43.520 had stayed close and connected. We would talk, you know, 0:55:43.719 --> 0:55:46.480 to that mutual friend. I guess both of us obviously 0:55:46.560 --> 0:55:49.759 on our own, and you know she did. My friend 0:55:49.760 --> 0:55:52.400 did a good job of respecting each other's privacy and 0:55:52.480 --> 0:55:55.080 not like she wouldn't tell me anything that Madison was 0:55:55.120 --> 0:55:57.440 saying like she wouldn't. He was really respecting that. That's 0:55:57.440 --> 0:55:59.040 why I knew I could obviously trust her to do 0:55:59.080 --> 0:56:02.520 the same. Um did I have like when the relationship 0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.440 ended it with Hannah and and I have thoughts about 0:56:04.960 --> 0:56:07.600 possibly reaching out. I did, but I just feel like 0:56:07.640 --> 0:56:09.879 that that wasn't my place to do it. She had 0:56:09.960 --> 0:56:13.480 left me, I did not leave her, and if anything 0:56:13.480 --> 0:56:15.279 like that was ever going to happen, it was like 0:56:15.840 --> 0:56:17.840 I just didn't see how it'd be right for me 0:56:17.880 --> 0:56:19.200 to go reach out her, like she'd just said no 0:56:19.239 --> 0:56:23.400 to me once, and that's why I didn't. So prior 0:56:23.440 --> 0:56:26.839 to breaking up with Hannah, Anne, you you yourself had 0:56:26.880 --> 0:56:30.400 no contact with Madison up until that point, correct, And 0:56:30.440 --> 0:56:34.759 then afterwards then I guess I'm confused. And so we 0:56:34.840 --> 0:56:38.200 see Chris Harrison go to Madison bring Madison back to you, 0:56:38.360 --> 0:56:41.640 and you didn't expect to see her. So did you 0:56:41.719 --> 0:56:43.879 have a conversation with Chris to be like, yeah, maybe 0:56:43.960 --> 0:56:45.759 go get her. Did you know any of this was 0:56:45.800 --> 0:56:48.000 going down? I knew none of that was going down. 0:56:48.040 --> 0:56:49.759 The only thing I knew about was one of the 0:56:49.960 --> 0:56:52.759 one of my producers, had just mentioned to me, like, hey, 0:56:52.840 --> 0:56:55.399 you see some pictures Madison was like a film crew 0:56:55.480 --> 0:56:57.160 right now. I guess they went to like in Auburn, 0:56:57.239 --> 0:57:00.719 in her hometown, and they couldn't tell me what it 0:57:00.719 --> 0:57:02.959 was about. And that's kind of like they just wanted 0:57:03.000 --> 0:57:04.400 to give me heads up, Hey you might see some 0:57:04.440 --> 0:57:07.000 pictures like don't like freak out. And I was like, okay, 0:57:07.400 --> 0:57:09.480 but did you think she was going to be bachelorette? 0:57:10.280 --> 0:57:13.000 Did she think it? No? Did you think that? I 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:16.880 definitely thought there was a chance for that, And I 0:57:16.920 --> 0:57:20.240 guess that's where did I think possibly something could be 0:57:20.240 --> 0:57:22.720 going on in regards to like me, I did, but 0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:27.040 I didn't know for sure. So that's why when she 0:57:27.120 --> 0:57:30.000 did surprise me, I obviously was very shocked and I 0:57:30.080 --> 0:57:31.600 expect to see her there. I was. I was told 0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:33.120 I was gonna talk to Chris that dad, and so 0:57:33.240 --> 0:57:34.840 like they just had me doing some b roll looking 0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:36.920 around and and then I hear the heels come in 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.800 and like that. But and then that's my Saul Madison. Yeah, 0:57:39.840 --> 0:57:43.760 that interaction was weird. I'll just be honest, y'all, didn't 0:57:43.800 --> 0:57:45.400 I knew you were caught off guard. I could tell 0:57:45.400 --> 0:57:48.560 you were surprised. Yeah, but she knew she was coming 0:57:48.560 --> 0:57:52.440 to see you, right, and it was just off like 0:57:52.600 --> 0:57:55.440 she didn't seem that excited. I mean, she we had 0:57:55.480 --> 0:57:57.720 just seen her say that she still loves you, right, 0:57:58.120 --> 0:58:01.040 obviously you still loved her. Didn't express it then, but 0:58:01.120 --> 0:58:04.440 we learned it. I just and you, being the person 0:58:04.480 --> 0:58:10.360 that you are, just just very passionate, y'all just seem like, Okay, 0:58:11.120 --> 0:58:14.479 here we are. It just didn't seem it was kind 0:58:14.480 --> 0:58:21.120 of underwhelming. M Yeah, what what what was that? I agree? 0:58:21.160 --> 0:58:23.200 And because I even I think even to on stage 0:58:23.200 --> 0:58:25.800 at Afar people, I've heard comments like that. Just the 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:28.320 chemistry didn't really seem there at all. Oh yeah, it 0:58:28.400 --> 0:58:31.760 was not. Okay, it wasn't you're you're right, You're totally right. 0:58:31.840 --> 0:58:33.600 I don't know if it was just nerves it was 0:58:34.040 --> 0:58:39.439 it was just being you know, uncomfortable. Um, I don't 0:58:39.440 --> 0:58:42.680 know what it was that you guys bring up a 0:58:42.680 --> 0:58:45.720 really valid point. Yeah, it seemed a little odd. I agree. 0:58:45.920 --> 0:58:48.240 Do you think it had something to do with and 0:58:48.240 --> 0:58:50.400 and Rachel and I think talked about this on the 0:58:50.440 --> 0:58:53.000 same podcast that we had Hannah and on. So basically 0:58:53.360 --> 0:58:55.840 I think my like, as a viewer, I felt like 0:58:55.880 --> 0:59:01.000 I was lacking in that entire ending scenario because basically 0:59:01.040 --> 0:59:03.840 Madison had removed herself because she felt like, you guys 0:59:03.920 --> 0:59:07.720 weren't compatible. Your lifestyles didn't maybe line up, and she 0:59:07.840 --> 0:59:10.320 just couldn't see it working in the long run. So 0:59:10.680 --> 0:59:13.520 she then removes herself at the end, only to then 0:59:13.640 --> 0:59:16.280 come back after talking with Chris, and you know, she 0:59:16.720 --> 0:59:20.520 told Chris like, I love Peter, who knows where this 0:59:20.560 --> 0:59:23.720 could go? Let's see. So she then comes to surprise 0:59:23.800 --> 0:59:26.919 you in LA. But really, like what was going through 0:59:26.960 --> 0:59:30.480 my mind that entire time was that, like nothing's changed 0:59:30.680 --> 0:59:32.840 up until that point. Like guess maybe she still loves 0:59:32.840 --> 0:59:36.560 you know, has those feelings, but if ultimately she felt 0:59:36.600 --> 0:59:40.240 like the lifestyles weren't going to be compatible, like that's 0:59:40.280 --> 0:59:43.880 still the case, Like nothing is any different besides like 0:59:44.320 --> 0:59:47.440 her saying like, oh, Peter ended his engagement with Hannah Anne. 0:59:47.960 --> 0:59:49.800 So I feel like if I were to be you 0:59:50.080 --> 0:59:52.280 or her, and this is just me being me and 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.960 how I would react. I would like I probably wouldn't 0:59:54.960 --> 0:59:56.600 have gone out to La because I would have still 0:59:56.640 --> 0:59:59.240 been like, Okay, yeah, you can love somebody, but at 0:59:59.240 --> 1:00:01.720 the end of the day, so relationships just don't work 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:05.200 out because you aren't compatible. And so for me watching it, 1:00:05.240 --> 1:00:07.720 I was like, what is going on? Because she was 1:00:07.960 --> 1:00:11.640 very like adamant about one thing and that thing is 1:00:11.640 --> 1:00:15.160 still present, but now she's doing something to try and 1:00:15.240 --> 1:00:17.440 see if it could maybe work. It just it didn't 1:00:17.480 --> 1:00:20.480 line up, and maybe that's what was causing the tension 1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:23.200 and why it seemed off. And before you answer to 1:00:23.280 --> 1:00:27.320 piggyback on what Becca's saying, is she eliminates herself because 1:00:27.360 --> 1:00:30.880 you had been intimate during the same week with another woman, 1:00:31.440 --> 1:00:36.200 and then you propose to a woman you obviously are 1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:39.880 intimate with her. You've commit possibly spending the rest of 1:00:39.880 --> 1:00:43.439 your life with this person, which is even more than 1:00:43.520 --> 1:00:46.880 just you know, being intimate with women during a fantasy week. 1:00:47.320 --> 1:00:49.959 And she can come back after that, but not come 1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:52.240 back but not deal with what she dealt with when 1:00:52.280 --> 1:00:54.800 the season was going on. Yeah, those are two good points, 1:00:54.920 --> 1:00:57.080 I think real quick. On the second one, I think 1:00:57.120 --> 1:01:00.480 that probably was a reason that it seemed very comfortable 1:01:01.200 --> 1:01:04.360 from her. Obviously for me, I was probably picking up 1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:06.920 on that body language and just the vibe. But I 1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:10.400 do know that, like, you know, stuff that didn't make it, 1:01:10.720 --> 1:01:13.240 that didn't air what we had more of a conversation 1:01:13.360 --> 1:01:16.439 than aired. You know, she did feel you know, like 1:01:16.720 --> 1:01:18.840 a little bit uncomfortable in regards to me, just it 1:01:18.880 --> 1:01:20.400 was tough for her to take the fact that I 1:01:20.400 --> 1:01:22.080 had you been engaged. That was hard for her. A 1:01:22.120 --> 1:01:26.080 swell and obviously coming out and making an effort to 1:01:26.080 --> 1:01:27.760 come and post to see if there's still something here 1:01:27.800 --> 1:01:30.320 with me was uncomfortable for her because she didn't want 1:01:30.360 --> 1:01:32.200 to be stepping on Hannah Ann's toes. And I remember 1:01:32.240 --> 1:01:34.480 her being like very thoughtful of that and kept like 1:01:34.640 --> 1:01:36.560 just wanting to make sure that she if we were 1:01:36.600 --> 1:01:38.480 going to do this, it'd be like done the right way. 1:01:38.640 --> 1:01:41.040 So I think I get it. Like it it seems 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:42.760 a little odd. Why could she be not okay with 1:01:42.880 --> 1:01:45.320 Fantasy Suit Week, but coming after, you know, an engagement 1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:48.960 just ended. I definitely think she was uncomfortable about that. 1:01:49.240 --> 1:01:53.280 But was she did you ask her that question? Yeah? 1:01:53.360 --> 1:01:56.000 And she told me that, Like she straight up told me, 1:01:56.040 --> 1:01:58.800 like in our conversation that she just she didn't know 1:01:58.840 --> 1:02:01.680 the best way to go about this. She had obviously 1:02:01.800 --> 1:02:04.360 when she had gone back home, she had started really 1:02:04.400 --> 1:02:07.200 processing everything that had just happened, and you know, she 1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:10.720 realized that her feelings for me weren't going away. She 1:02:11.000 --> 1:02:13.920 really struggled that for a while, and kind of to 1:02:14.040 --> 1:02:18.040 what you were saying, Becca, Yeah, ultimately, listen, did our 1:02:18.080 --> 1:02:21.360 differences and lack of compatibility be the reason that we 1:02:21.400 --> 1:02:27.040 stop things? Yes, But she admitted to me that she thought, 1:02:27.200 --> 1:02:29.400 like her exact words were, and obviously like I'm very 1:02:29.400 --> 1:02:32.000 different than you know, possibly her dad or whatnot, but 1:02:32.320 --> 1:02:33.960 and all the respect in the world for her dad, 1:02:33.960 --> 1:02:36.479 but she told me, she's like, I kept thinking that 1:02:36.600 --> 1:02:40.160 I wanted someone just like my dad, and that's kind 1:02:40.160 --> 1:02:41.800 of how like I just grew up and people that 1:02:41.840 --> 1:02:44.840 I've dated. And then after reflecting and everything in the 1:02:44.880 --> 1:02:47.880 months that ensued, she said that she realized that she 1:02:47.920 --> 1:02:49.960 doesn't need anyone like her dad because she's just like 1:02:50.000 --> 1:02:52.320 her dad. And the fact that I am, you know, 1:02:52.400 --> 1:02:54.840 different in a lot of ways actually were qualities that 1:02:54.880 --> 1:02:58.840 she realized why she felt for me. And you know, 1:02:58.880 --> 1:03:03.800 she admitted that, m And so that's I think why, 1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:07.320 you know, she elected to kind of like restart this 1:03:07.480 --> 1:03:10.720 and give this, you know, hopefully another chance with us again. Ultimately, 1:03:10.920 --> 1:03:13.280 when we really just had an honest, honest conversation with 1:03:13.280 --> 1:03:15.640 each other the two days after Afar, and it was 1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:18.080 just me and her, and we said, listen, let's completely 1:03:18.160 --> 1:03:20.920 remove our heart, our feelings from this conversation and only 1:03:20.960 --> 1:03:24.479 speak logically about if this is possible, can this work? 1:03:25.920 --> 1:03:30.400 And it was it was no, And yeah, go ahead, Peter, 1:03:30.440 --> 1:03:33.680 I'm sorry, no, But like I mean, I just I 1:03:33.720 --> 1:03:35.840 think that what you saw there was was was two 1:03:35.840 --> 1:03:39.640 people that obviously had strong feelings for each other, and yeah, 1:03:39.680 --> 1:03:43.080 there was a reason issue why we ended, but weren't 1:03:43.080 --> 1:03:46.120 really ready to completely give up on those feelings. And again, 1:03:46.200 --> 1:03:47.920 from what she realized, like you know, she said she 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:50.040 had dated a lot of other guys that were different 1:03:50.040 --> 1:03:52.440 from me, that were like what she thought she wanted, 1:03:52.600 --> 1:03:55.280 they weren't working out for a certain reason, and so 1:03:55.680 --> 1:03:58.560 this is something that she realized, you know, before she 1:03:58.600 --> 1:04:02.760 came out. Yeah, I mean, it gets it makes sense 1:04:02.760 --> 1:04:05.720 to me. It's just what doesn't make sense is Okay, 1:04:05.760 --> 1:04:07.560 So y'all have that talk, Glad. That was one of 1:04:07.560 --> 1:04:10.000 my questions. So glad to know after we saw you 1:04:10.040 --> 1:04:14.600 guys meet for the first time since the breakup, you 1:04:14.600 --> 1:04:17.120 guys had a full out conversation and everything. That's great. 1:04:17.160 --> 1:04:21.000 So I would imagine that you continue to talk from 1:04:21.080 --> 1:04:24.600 then up until the finale, which is kind of why 1:04:24.680 --> 1:04:26.640 the message you kept giving them, like BECA and I 1:04:26.720 --> 1:04:28.720 and other outlets is we don't know how this is 1:04:28.720 --> 1:04:30.000 going to end. We don't know how this is going 1:04:30.040 --> 1:04:32.200 to end. So I'm curious as to what was the 1:04:32.280 --> 1:04:36.320 game plan coming into the finale, Like what was it 1:04:36.360 --> 1:04:38.680 supposed to be? How were you guys supposed to because 1:04:39.200 --> 1:04:41.360 I think the most shocking thing is two days later, 1:04:41.440 --> 1:04:43.320 y'all are done. It's like, well, what the hell was 1:04:43.360 --> 1:04:46.200 all that for? You stood up to your family, you know, 1:04:46.280 --> 1:04:49.000 you you profess your love for each other and how difficult, 1:04:49.040 --> 1:04:50.400 you know what's going to be, and you're gonna work 1:04:50.440 --> 1:04:54.240 at it. Only for two days later you guys ended, 1:04:54.600 --> 1:04:56.439 which is why I think a lot of people thought 1:04:56.480 --> 1:05:00.520 it was staged. I'll say that, and it did not. Yeah, 1:05:00.360 --> 1:05:03.000 I got that, I've heard that, but it was not stage. 1:05:03.000 --> 1:05:05.520 I can promise you guys that we we didn't see 1:05:05.560 --> 1:05:09.560 each other until this on Stage Life finale, we did talk. Obviously, 1:05:09.560 --> 1:05:12.320 we faced time a lot, and we just had a 1:05:12.400 --> 1:05:14.400 lot of those you know talks that we needed to 1:05:14.400 --> 1:05:15.960 have that I wish you would have had way sooner 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:17.960 than we could have had in the Fantasy suite, you know, 1:05:18.040 --> 1:05:21.480 with time off camera, you know, it's kind of crazy, 1:05:21.520 --> 1:05:23.440 but really the main the first time that her and 1:05:23.440 --> 1:05:26.000 I ever spent time alone off camera was when after 1:05:26.000 --> 1:05:28.800 the show ended, and that was just like crazy for 1:05:28.840 --> 1:05:30.800 like such a serious relationship for that to have been 1:05:30.800 --> 1:05:34.440 the first time. But we really didn't know what we 1:05:34.440 --> 1:05:36.320 were going to do, and we knew that, like obviously 1:05:36.360 --> 1:05:38.960 there were still feelings there, but going into the finale, 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:40.640 we really didn't know what we're gonna do. And I 1:05:40.640 --> 1:05:42.960 don't like, looking back on it, I'm confused as why 1:05:43.000 --> 1:05:47.520 we didn't, like I didn't see each other before it 1:05:47.560 --> 1:05:50.960 was an option and like I I wanted to do it, 1:05:51.040 --> 1:05:53.640 and you know, I remember her same stuff like well 1:05:53.640 --> 1:05:55.440 maybe we should just like make this like really authentic 1:05:55.520 --> 1:05:58.440 on stage and like not like have that be the 1:05:58.440 --> 1:06:00.920 first time and I saw I saw some of that 1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:05.880 like d and um, but I remember like good before 1:06:05.960 --> 1:06:09.120 I listen, I remember there too, before I was like, 1:06:09.800 --> 1:06:11.000 I think I need to see her. I need to 1:06:11.000 --> 1:06:16.040 see her. And at that time, oh yeah, pater for somebody, 1:06:16.320 --> 1:06:19.760 I becka back me up on this. When you love 1:06:19.840 --> 1:06:23.480 somebody and you have those happy couple weekends or you 1:06:23.480 --> 1:06:26.680 haven't seen anybody, you are itching there is like you 1:06:26.720 --> 1:06:30.800 are dying to see that person inside and the and 1:06:30.840 --> 1:06:32.880 I get you saying I wanted to see her. I 1:06:32.920 --> 1:06:34.720 wanted to see her, and to hear that she was like, 1:06:35.360 --> 1:06:38.400 maybe we should wait because it's more authentic on stage. 1:06:38.600 --> 1:06:40.920 Are you putting on a show or are you trying 1:06:40.960 --> 1:06:43.120 to get to know each other. That's where I have 1:06:43.240 --> 1:06:46.360 the conflict. And you guys had already had so much 1:06:46.560 --> 1:06:49.320 lost time and there was so much time that need 1:06:49.320 --> 1:06:51.439 to be made up, I think, to make to really 1:06:51.480 --> 1:06:55.920 solidified the relationship. And so if I was the two 1:06:56.000 --> 1:06:58.640 of you, I would have like, from the moment she 1:06:58.720 --> 1:07:02.160 had flown out to La to try to rekindle things 1:07:02.240 --> 1:07:04.520 with you, that entire time, I would have been like, look, 1:07:04.520 --> 1:07:06.840 we need to be together. We need to see if 1:07:06.840 --> 1:07:09.040 we can make this work. We need to make up 1:07:09.040 --> 1:07:12.520 for all of the last time there needed, like I think, 1:07:12.600 --> 1:07:14.920 for a relationship and for like you want to be 1:07:14.920 --> 1:07:17.000 with someone. As Rachel said, you want to spend those 1:07:17.320 --> 1:07:21.880 epy couple moments together. Um, and so to me, like, 1:07:22.000 --> 1:07:24.480 I wouldn't have reacted that same way I would. I 1:07:24.480 --> 1:07:28.120 would not. I would have been so terrified to get 1:07:28.200 --> 1:07:31.440 on stage and have there be so many unknowns like 1:07:31.480 --> 1:07:33.760 I would have won. That's why it was awkward. I 1:07:33.800 --> 1:07:36.520 would not have you by my side, Peter, to really 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:38.880 back each other up, to support one another, to feel 1:07:38.920 --> 1:07:43.200 super solid in that. And so I mean, and if 1:07:43.240 --> 1:07:45.960 you had the opportunity to do it, shit, you should have. 1:07:47.160 --> 1:07:49.040 And it wasn't It wasn't all her. I like I 1:07:49.080 --> 1:07:51.680 agreed to it too, Like I it wasn't just her 1:07:51.680 --> 1:07:55.680 all this happened. I just think the common thing theme 1:07:56.120 --> 1:07:57.960 that a lot of people saw is it looked like 1:07:58.040 --> 1:08:01.120 you were giving one hundred percent and one hundred percent 1:08:01.240 --> 1:08:03.280 wasn't being given back to you. That's just kind of 1:08:03.280 --> 1:08:06.000 how it comes off to an audience. So I'm very 1:08:06.080 --> 1:08:11.439 curious as we know how your family felt about Madison. Yeah, 1:08:11.480 --> 1:08:13.240 we saw it all play out. I don't really want 1:08:13.240 --> 1:08:15.280 to get in all that, but I have to ask 1:08:16.040 --> 1:08:19.360 why did your family feel a certain way about Madison? 1:08:19.400 --> 1:08:21.920 And I mean, like, not just a feeling like it was. 1:08:22.960 --> 1:08:27.759 It was like a steadfast thing and it went from father, mother, brother, 1:08:28.640 --> 1:08:30.639 you know, let your mom tell it, friends as well. 1:08:31.040 --> 1:08:34.760 So why were there feelings so strong against Madison. I 1:08:34.800 --> 1:08:37.560 think all of that stuff really did start in Australia 1:08:37.640 --> 1:08:39.080 when they when they were out there and it was 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:42.240 like the family visits and the you know, Hannah Ann 1:08:42.240 --> 1:08:44.760 had gone first and that went. She just knocked it 1:08:44.760 --> 1:08:46.280 out of the park. My family fell in love with 1:08:46.320 --> 1:08:49.600 her immediately, obviously I knew why, and which just was 1:08:49.640 --> 1:08:51.600 such a great day. And the second day comes in 1:08:51.680 --> 1:08:54.800 Madison and just boom is granted, this is all my 1:08:55.080 --> 1:08:57.360 doing that got her in this headspace, and I can 1:08:57.520 --> 1:08:59.840 I can take that responsibility. But she was not a 1:09:00.080 --> 1:09:02.680 good headspace at all. And like the talks about you know, 1:09:02.760 --> 1:09:05.559 being outside the house for three hours waiting, having my 1:09:05.560 --> 1:09:07.640 parents wait was one hundred percent try that was that 1:09:07.680 --> 1:09:10.120 was the case, um. And I was essentially trying to 1:09:10.200 --> 1:09:12.680 like convince her why I felt like we needed it, 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:15.000 like at least put this stuff behind us and talked 1:09:15.040 --> 1:09:17.080 to my family. You know, they had just flown halfway 1:09:17.080 --> 1:09:19.160 around the world. If we go in and if I 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:21.280 go in and say, listen, Madison just can't talk right now, 1:09:21.280 --> 1:09:22.920 Like that's just not going to be a good look. 1:09:23.080 --> 1:09:25.920 So she didn't want to talk to your family. She didn't. Yeah, 1:09:25.920 --> 1:09:27.240 she didn't feel like she was in the right headspace 1:09:27.240 --> 1:09:30.280 to be able to go do that, okay, And so I, 1:09:30.560 --> 1:09:32.160 you know, I understood why she was still on the 1:09:32.160 --> 1:09:33.600 way she did. I knew we had to work on 1:09:33.600 --> 1:09:36.080 our own stuff, but that's just the way the show 1:09:36.120 --> 1:09:38.080 goes and the schedule, and like that was the one 1:09:38.160 --> 1:09:40.799 day we had allocated to go spend time with my family, 1:09:41.120 --> 1:09:42.799 and so I did my best to try to convince 1:09:42.840 --> 1:09:45.960 her why, you know, she finally, you know, realized, okay, 1:09:46.240 --> 1:09:47.920 you know, she was gonna do it for me and um, 1:09:49.040 --> 1:09:51.040 and then we went inside and obviously just off it 1:09:51.080 --> 1:09:52.760 was off to a bad start, you know, we my 1:09:52.800 --> 1:09:56.519 family obviously was you know, obviously annoyed. I don't think 1:09:56.520 --> 1:09:59.400 anyone would be like waiting three hours just doing nothing 1:09:59.439 --> 1:10:02.240 to have that conversation. It just got off to a 1:10:02.280 --> 1:10:04.479 bad start. Just immediately. You could feel the vibe was 1:10:04.520 --> 1:10:07.320 not the same with Hannah Anne, and you know they 1:10:07.680 --> 1:10:09.840 had I guess known a little bit now about the 1:10:09.840 --> 1:10:12.960 differences that we had had. I expressed to them, you know, 1:10:13.120 --> 1:10:15.000 the day prior about when I was talking about both 1:10:15.040 --> 1:10:17.920 women that you know, there have been some issues that 1:10:18.000 --> 1:10:19.680 Maddie and I were going through because of what had 1:10:19.680 --> 1:10:22.240 happened with the Fantasy Sweet Week, and so they had 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:25.840 already seen, like started to see these differences, and they 1:10:25.920 --> 1:10:28.560 just being my family and the one on one conversations 1:10:28.560 --> 1:10:30.160 I had with each of them, like we're just like, 1:10:30.479 --> 1:10:33.920 they didn't see this working. They just didn't see it working. 1:10:34.000 --> 1:10:36.040 And they saw that, yes, she was an amazing girl, 1:10:36.080 --> 1:10:38.240 but the two of us were just too different, and 1:10:38.280 --> 1:10:41.200 they were just looking out for me, and you know, 1:10:41.240 --> 1:10:43.080 you see that passion kind of come out on stage 1:10:43.080 --> 1:10:46.360 and everything. And I think I do think as much 1:10:46.400 --> 1:10:48.280 as I can, you know, defend Maddie and everything, and 1:10:48.720 --> 1:10:51.439 I do think that she could have coming out on 1:10:51.520 --> 1:10:55.840 stage apologize, you know, a really quick apology to my 1:10:55.880 --> 1:10:57.920 parents about the last time she had seen him and 1:10:57.960 --> 1:10:59.360 what had gone down. I think that would have gone 1:10:59.400 --> 1:11:04.040 a long way, and I really really do, you know, 1:11:04.200 --> 1:11:08.080 Fortunately that didn't happen. That wasn't the case, and that's 1:11:08.120 --> 1:11:10.240 kind of why that's really because that's the only time 1:11:10.280 --> 1:11:12.120 my parents saw Maddie like that was really where that 1:11:12.439 --> 1:11:14.880 passion that just like them, being just like ants is 1:11:14.920 --> 1:11:16.519 not going to work. Bud. You gotta like, you gotta 1:11:16.600 --> 1:11:19.559 understand that that's where that came from. Peter. So your 1:11:19.600 --> 1:11:25.679 mom said this during the finale, But she said that 1:11:25.760 --> 1:11:28.240 day after, you know, waiting a couple of hours and 1:11:28.320 --> 1:11:32.120 finally sitting down with Maddie, that she asked her flat out, 1:11:33.040 --> 1:11:35.960 like do you love my son? And she had said no, 1:11:36.840 --> 1:11:40.759 And that's what you So when your mom had told 1:11:40.800 --> 1:11:43.679 you that, and maybe and I think she had said 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:46.400 that she your brother had asked Maddison the same thing 1:11:46.400 --> 1:11:49.519 and Madison had said the same answer. So when you 1:11:49.640 --> 1:11:52.960 knew that, what was going through your your brain and 1:11:53.640 --> 1:11:56.080 knowing like, Okay, you know she's still here, but she's 1:11:56.120 --> 1:11:59.160 been on the fence about sticking around or leaving, and 1:11:59.240 --> 1:12:01.479 now she's admitted and that she's not in love with 1:12:01.520 --> 1:12:04.040 me to my family, Like, what was going through your brain? 1:12:04.800 --> 1:12:09.400 I was so confused because literally an hour before outside 1:12:09.439 --> 1:12:11.000 she said she did love me. That was the first 1:12:11.040 --> 1:12:13.360 time she told me. I remember like being ridiculous because 1:12:13.360 --> 1:12:15.040 I was like, it's all I've been wanting to hear 1:12:15.080 --> 1:12:17.360 the entire time. And then like I just we were 1:12:17.400 --> 1:12:19.719 having a very serious conversation that like I just completely 1:12:19.760 --> 1:12:22.680 lost all seriousness because I was kind of happy and giddy. Um, 1:12:22.880 --> 1:12:24.680 So she just told me that outside. And that's why 1:12:24.680 --> 1:12:26.400 my mom told me that. I was just very very 1:12:26.400 --> 1:12:29.160 confused and shocked because I'm like, what she just told 1:12:29.160 --> 1:12:32.599 me she did? And then but that's that's another thing. 1:12:32.600 --> 1:12:34.600 That's that's another thing of why my mom was, you know, 1:12:34.720 --> 1:12:37.599 very passionate about what she was saying. Was you hear 1:12:37.640 --> 1:12:39.960 she has Hannah Anne, her and her hit it off 1:12:40.000 --> 1:12:42.479 like no other. Hannah's expressing how she does feel about me, 1:12:42.520 --> 1:12:44.559 and she can totally see this with me, and then 1:12:44.600 --> 1:12:47.840 it's a literally complete opposite, you know, with Maddie, and 1:12:48.120 --> 1:12:50.000 you know, her saying that she didn't love me and 1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:52.840 that she couldn't see an engagement in the next couple 1:12:52.800 --> 1:12:55.000 of days. That part, I will say, I get why 1:12:55.000 --> 1:12:57.880 Maddie couldn't see an engagement after how strongly she felt 1:12:57.880 --> 1:13:00.479 about fantasy like intimacy. I get that. A couple of 1:13:00.520 --> 1:13:02.599 days later, that's not ideally how you want to be 1:13:02.600 --> 1:13:04.640 proposed to knowing what happened a couple I get that, 1:13:05.040 --> 1:13:07.280 But I do know that like that went a long 1:13:07.280 --> 1:13:09.519 way with my mom to like not be the biggest 1:13:09.520 --> 1:13:12.120 fan of that relationship. When when Maddie told her that, well, 1:13:12.160 --> 1:13:14.240 then I guess where's the disconnect, Like, why did she 1:13:14.280 --> 1:13:15.800 just tell you that? And then she said no to 1:13:15.880 --> 1:13:19.280 your family. Did you ever ask her about that? Yeah? Yeah, 1:13:19.360 --> 1:13:26.600 And I think I don't know. I think it's like 1:13:26.680 --> 1:13:31.920 semantic all right. It was just like she, I guess 1:13:31.920 --> 1:13:34.479 the way my mom met asked it was like, are 1:13:34.520 --> 1:13:36.439 you madly head over heels in love with my son 1:13:36.520 --> 1:13:39.320 or something like that, And I guess that made Maddie 1:13:39.320 --> 1:13:42.519 say no. I don't know. It was just a confusing day. 1:13:42.600 --> 1:13:45.240 I don't Yeah, it sounds it sounds very confusing, and 1:13:45.320 --> 1:13:49.760 it sounds like you're better off. I don't want to 1:13:49.760 --> 1:13:52.679 see anybody fail. Yeah, but it sounds like you guys 1:13:52.680 --> 1:13:57.799 are better separate than together. Yeah, if you could. Because 1:13:58.040 --> 1:14:00.040 I know that we were supposed to talk to you 1:14:00.160 --> 1:14:04.160 after the finale, and obviously nobody saw it going the 1:14:04.200 --> 1:14:07.520 way that it did, and Becca and I totally respected 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:10.040 the fact that this is personal at this point and 1:14:10.080 --> 1:14:13.679 it's not about doing a podcast, Like we care about 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:15.000 you and we want you to be okay at the 1:14:15.080 --> 1:14:18.160 end of the day. So I don't want to get 1:14:18.200 --> 1:14:21.360 into the details of your conversation with Madison, but after 1:14:21.400 --> 1:14:24.160 you got off stage, and obviously there was some you know, 1:14:24.200 --> 1:14:27.600 you guys were upset and emotional. Did you know that 1:14:27.680 --> 1:14:31.800 it was over at that point? No, So we got 1:14:31.840 --> 1:14:34.520 off stage. I remember we were both in a bad headspace, 1:14:34.880 --> 1:14:37.639 just like down We walked up to like the changing 1:14:37.680 --> 1:14:40.720 room areas where we were waiting before it just her 1:14:40.760 --> 1:14:42.840 and I. We had a quick moment just with each other. 1:14:42.840 --> 1:14:44.400 We just hugged each other and just kind of like 1:14:44.400 --> 1:14:47.240 we're supporting each other. Then we decided to talk to 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:51.080 some producers. At that point, I don't from my side, 1:14:51.120 --> 1:14:52.920 I didn't think that it was it was over over 1:14:53.000 --> 1:14:56.839 or anything. We then separated. I went back to my hotel. 1:14:56.920 --> 1:14:59.200 She went back to her hotel, called her parents for 1:14:59.200 --> 1:15:01.160 a little bit, came back to my hotel. We spent 1:15:01.240 --> 1:15:03.000 a couple of hours and just you know, we're there 1:15:03.000 --> 1:15:05.320 for each other. Didn't really have a serious conversation about 1:15:05.680 --> 1:15:07.280 figuring this out, but just wanted to be there for 1:15:07.280 --> 1:15:11.200 each other and spend time. Fast forward to the next day, 1:15:11.320 --> 1:15:13.320 I didn't see her mom had flown out and spent 1:15:13.400 --> 1:15:16.000 the day with her. The next day, The second day 1:15:16.640 --> 1:15:18.840 is when I went over to her hotel and we 1:15:18.920 --> 1:15:21.559 spent just like you know, six hours probably just talking. 1:15:21.600 --> 1:15:24.439 And that was when it had that sentiment going into 1:15:24.479 --> 1:15:27.920 the conversation that this is this is it, this is 1:15:27.960 --> 1:15:30.120 not this is unfortunately as sad as it is, like 1:15:30.120 --> 1:15:32.240 it's not going to work as much as like maybe 1:15:32.240 --> 1:15:36.559 we might want it to have worked. And that was 1:15:36.600 --> 1:15:38.280 the day where we both I think knew that it 1:15:38.320 --> 1:15:40.960 was it was over. So you guys agreed to do 1:15:41.520 --> 1:15:44.639 an Instagram post to kind of announce at the same time. 1:15:45.240 --> 1:15:47.800 And then what did you do after that? Did you 1:15:47.840 --> 1:15:52.519 go home? Yes? Um, so that day was when I 1:15:52.600 --> 1:15:56.640 left her hotel, I went straight home, and I was 1:15:56.640 --> 1:15:59.880 the first time I saw my family and first just 1:16:00.040 --> 1:16:02.080 you know, went in, gave him a hug and just 1:16:02.160 --> 1:16:04.960 like told him I loved him and everything and um, 1:16:05.040 --> 1:16:07.200 and then expressed them what had just happened with Mattie 1:16:07.240 --> 1:16:10.440 and I and what we had decided to do, and um, 1:16:10.479 --> 1:16:12.599 you know kind of began that whole healing process with 1:16:12.640 --> 1:16:15.599 my family and everything and just sticking together. But yeah, 1:16:15.600 --> 1:16:17.720 that was the first day I went home and then 1:16:17.760 --> 1:16:20.600 she went to go play board games with Selena Gomez 1:16:22.400 --> 1:16:26.080 so I know, I didn't know that actually until the 1:16:26.600 --> 1:16:29.400 TMZ guys told me that, but um was that who 1:16:29.479 --> 1:16:39.880 culture I went, I know, jesus um I had found out. 1:16:39.920 --> 1:16:41.479 So she had told me that night that she was 1:16:41.479 --> 1:16:44.080 going to go spend some time with one of her friends, 1:16:44.080 --> 1:16:47.640 one of her good girlfriends that was living in la Um. 1:16:47.640 --> 1:16:49.840 Talking to Maddie later after because we had text here 1:16:49.840 --> 1:16:53.120 and there, um after was she told me like listen, 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:54.800 I know how I guess how that could look. But 1:16:54.880 --> 1:16:56.880 like she did go over to her friend's place and 1:16:57.000 --> 1:16:59.400 her friend just ended up being really good friends with Selena, 1:16:59.479 --> 1:17:02.280 and I guess Selena had said something about, you know, hey, 1:17:02.280 --> 1:17:04.400 we're like going to my grandmother's house play board games, 1:17:04.400 --> 1:17:06.360 like come over here, and some really went over there. 1:17:06.479 --> 1:17:09.920 That's that's what I heard. Have you I believe it? 1:17:09.960 --> 1:17:12.360 I believe it. So have you and Maddie stayed in 1:17:12.439 --> 1:17:16.080 content contact since all of that or is it pretty 1:17:16.160 --> 1:17:17.800 much you know you've shut the door, you guys have 1:17:17.960 --> 1:17:21.120 both moved on. Yeah, we talked. We text her a 1:17:21.160 --> 1:17:24.160 little bit after, and you know, it was sad. You know, 1:17:24.200 --> 1:17:27.280 there was obviously like you know, missing each other kind 1:17:27.280 --> 1:17:30.280 of stuff like that and whatnot. And um, you know, 1:17:30.320 --> 1:17:31.840 I remember she'd like send me like a video and 1:17:31.840 --> 1:17:34.240 it's just like it was. It was tough, but we 1:17:34.240 --> 1:17:37.240 we we both knew it was over. And then um 1:17:38.360 --> 1:17:41.080 kind of just all ended. Yeah, like we I r 1:17:41.080 --> 1:17:42.880 had sent her one thing and like I never really 1:17:42.920 --> 1:17:44.400 heard it and came back. I'm like, okay, yeah, like 1:17:44.439 --> 1:17:47.800 this is I got to stop doing this. And then um, 1:17:47.840 --> 1:17:51.200 and then the whole Kelly stuff happened. Um, and you 1:17:51.240 --> 1:17:52.920 know I came out here to be be here for her, 1:17:52.960 --> 1:17:57.400 and yeah, I had sound like a text to Madison 1:17:57.439 --> 1:17:59.320 just kind of explaining everything so she could hear it 1:17:59.360 --> 1:18:02.400 from me, and she was like, really, you know, Brig 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:05.679 and rock Star and under you know, wasn't like trying 1:18:05.680 --> 1:18:07.400 to be even big or anything that I didn't think 1:18:07.400 --> 1:18:08.800 it was like, wasn't trying to be mean about it, 1:18:09.479 --> 1:18:11.840 and just like kind of like told me that. It's 1:18:11.920 --> 1:18:15.720 like like I appreciated that, and uh yeah. Then I 1:18:15.720 --> 1:18:17.640 haven't talked to her since. So, Becca, I don't know 1:18:17.680 --> 1:18:19.960 if I've ever asked you this question before or I've 1:18:20.000 --> 1:18:22.960 even said this, but so Peter, I'm directing this to you, 1:18:23.040 --> 1:18:26.639 and Becca you can answer too. I in Fantasy Suite 1:18:26.800 --> 1:18:30.559 I asked all of my guys if I didn't choose them, 1:18:30.800 --> 1:18:34.400 would they be the Bachelor like I wanted to. It 1:18:34.479 --> 1:18:37.320 wasn't really a trick question. It was just more of 1:18:37.920 --> 1:18:41.920 I'm very curious to see how you would respond to this. 1:18:42.680 --> 1:18:45.640 And so, Becca, did you ask your guys? Well? So, 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:47.760 when I had fantasy suites, I only had two because 1:18:47.760 --> 1:18:50.840 I had sent Jason home prior to spending the night 1:18:50.840 --> 1:18:53.920 with him. Um, so I had Garrett and Blake. Had 1:18:54.080 --> 1:18:58.040 I gone a different route and ended up with Blake, Hell, no, 1:18:58.520 --> 1:19:01.200 would Garrett have been the Bachelor. There's no way. No. 1:19:01.360 --> 1:19:05.840 Garret wouldn't have done he would, you know? And well, 1:19:05.840 --> 1:19:08.879 and I do know. I mean Blake was in talks 1:19:08.920 --> 1:19:11.600 to potentially be the Bachelor, um, along with some of 1:19:11.640 --> 1:19:15.599 the other guys when Colton season happened. So, um, I'm 1:19:15.640 --> 1:19:17.760 sure he would have said yes. I never asked him that, 1:19:17.880 --> 1:19:21.519 But yeah, I know Garrett would have you paid one 1:19:21.560 --> 1:19:23.839 million dollars and he would have not been the Bachelor. 1:19:24.400 --> 1:19:27.320 I think Brian would have would have done it. Um. 1:19:28.120 --> 1:19:31.720 So I'm going somewhere with this. I'm asking you, Peter, Yeah, 1:19:32.240 --> 1:19:36.040 do you think that because we kind of touched on 1:19:36.080 --> 1:19:37.840 this but we didn't go into this when you were 1:19:37.880 --> 1:19:42.439 told that the cameras were at Madison's um and I said, oh, 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:44.559 did you think that she was going to be asked 1:19:44.560 --> 1:19:46.800 to be the bachelrette? Do you think that if she 1:19:46.920 --> 1:19:49.920 was asked she would have done it? No? I don't. 1:19:50.320 --> 1:20:05.679 What about Hannah Ann Um? Yeah, okay, what about Kelly Um? No, 1:20:06.000 --> 1:20:10.120 Kelly no one. So why do you think Hannah ann 1:20:10.200 --> 1:20:14.200 would have and not the other two? Well? I guess 1:20:14.280 --> 1:20:17.519 so to be fair, I didn't actually ask them, so 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:20.120 like my final three of this, and I never I 1:20:20.240 --> 1:20:23.160 never asked Hannah Anne Um it came up and talks 1:20:23.160 --> 1:20:24.840 to Madison and I and I tell you no, because 1:20:24.880 --> 1:20:26.439 she told me she would have said no, like that 1:20:26.520 --> 1:20:30.360 wasn't something she would have done. Um. But I guess 1:20:30.360 --> 1:20:32.880 with Hannah Anne, I mean because it's it's not there's 1:20:32.920 --> 1:20:35.400 there's nothing negative about that. Like I if you would 1:20:35.400 --> 1:20:38.080 if I would be talking to two former bacherettes here, yeah, 1:20:38.080 --> 1:20:40.160 in your final three, like if someone or might you 1:20:40.160 --> 1:20:41.640 know Hannah Brown would ask you? Like I would have 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:43.559 been like, if you don't pick me, this is really 1:20:43.600 --> 1:20:46.880 weird question. But of course, like obviously it's working for me, right, now, 1:20:46.960 --> 1:20:49.400 so I know that it could work if you broke 1:20:49.400 --> 1:20:51.000 my sight. Now and it's not gonna work, why wouldn't 1:20:51.000 --> 1:20:53.760 I want to? Um? So it's nothing negative, but I 1:20:53.800 --> 1:20:55.760 think yeah, Hannah, and you know, would have would have 1:20:56.080 --> 1:20:57.960 what do you what are you trying to do? Kind 1:20:57.960 --> 1:21:01.120 of sneak behind me? Is that Kelly? Yeah, he's trying 1:21:01.120 --> 1:21:03.559 to crawl on the floor behind me. Kelly, we heard 1:21:03.600 --> 1:21:05.439 you were Oh she didn't hear us because he's got 1:21:05.439 --> 1:21:10.880 headphones on. Binger on, come on it, come on it. 1:21:11.000 --> 1:21:15.519 Say hi, can you hear us sneak around? Kelly? She's 1:21:15.560 --> 1:21:19.200 been bashful. Wait, we actually called to talk to you, 1:21:19.680 --> 1:21:21.720 and Peter just happened to pick up. I was just 1:21:21.800 --> 1:21:32.559 hogging the zoom screen now, Hi, Kelly. No, that's the question. 1:21:32.600 --> 1:21:35.160 We were just asking him. Listen, we got a little 1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:39.200 too awkward on this show. No, you're not awkward. You 1:21:39.320 --> 1:21:42.200 just I think, yeah, spoken, I don't think. I think 1:21:42.560 --> 1:21:44.200 you would have Kelly. You would have been good because 1:21:44.200 --> 1:21:47.160 you would have kept the men in their place. True, 1:21:47.560 --> 1:21:49.800 you just get it. Becca and I are also two 1:21:49.840 --> 1:21:51.880 Batchelors who didn't have a lot of drama in our 1:21:51.920 --> 1:21:53.920 season because we were kind of like we're here to 1:21:54.000 --> 1:21:56.040 do something, and it's like, it is what it is, 1:21:56.120 --> 1:21:58.960 So you probably would have been like, like, it's changed 1:21:59.000 --> 1:22:00.760 a little bit, like in the past couple of years, 1:22:00.800 --> 1:22:04.519 it's more drama focused. So do they hold on to that? 1:22:04.720 --> 1:22:06.439 They reverse it and go back to what you guys 1:22:06.439 --> 1:22:09.519 had say, she's already she's asking the wrong this. Yeah, 1:22:09.520 --> 1:22:15.720 she couldn't do it. Are you do? You still have 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:20.160 to work right now? Um? I should be working more 1:22:20.240 --> 1:22:23.200 than I am, but there's little things that I still 1:22:23.200 --> 1:22:25.639 have to do. Yeah, I just didn't know. I mean, 1:22:25.880 --> 1:22:28.639 I don't practice anymore, so I'm like, Oh, what's what's 1:22:28.640 --> 1:22:30.720 going on in the legal world or people? Still, I 1:22:30.720 --> 1:22:35.200 did finish my cls this month, so I was so 1:22:35.360 --> 1:22:39.559 proud of myself for finishing. Remember. Yeah, Hey, hey, Rachel, 1:22:40.880 --> 1:22:44.320 may it please the court. I'm so proud of you. 1:22:46.120 --> 1:22:49.120 I'm so proud of you. Look at you two steps 1:22:49.120 --> 1:22:55.679 away from a courtroom. No, we've just been having fun 1:22:55.760 --> 1:22:59.240 asking Pewter questions about and Kelly. You're somebody we wanted 1:22:59.280 --> 1:23:02.439 to talk to the show. I feel like we've hot 1:23:02.479 --> 1:23:04.679 We've No. No, I'm not gonna hog your time because 1:23:04.680 --> 1:23:06.120 we've been talking to Peter. I feel like for an 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:08.759 hour and a half. At this point, I'm in my closet. 1:23:08.800 --> 1:23:13.320 So Specca, we have nothing else to do, so parties 1:23:13.520 --> 1:23:16.720 DJs on the team. Okay, well here's a question. Why 1:23:16.760 --> 1:23:20.080 were you at women till all? I honestly don't know. No, no, 1:23:20.120 --> 1:23:23.360 not at women? Sorry, why were you affe? I really 1:23:23.400 --> 1:23:26.759 don't know. I think it's just from from the only 1:23:27.160 --> 1:23:29.840 The only thing that I got was Chris Harrison doing 1:23:29.840 --> 1:23:32.040 an interview saying that they want to throw people off 1:23:32.080 --> 1:23:34.280 because they thought I was pregnant with Peter's child or 1:23:34.280 --> 1:23:39.320 something like, Yeah, was that a rumor practice? Yeah, people 1:23:39.360 --> 1:23:42.479 call up with the weirdest crap. You guys, I swear well, Kelly, 1:23:42.520 --> 1:23:44.840 when when rached, I saw you because we were there, 1:23:44.960 --> 1:23:47.720 we were just watching backstage. We weren't allowed out there, 1:23:47.880 --> 1:23:49.720 which we really wanted to. But when we saw you 1:23:49.760 --> 1:23:51.960 were like, let us go sit with Kelly and Barr. 1:23:52.000 --> 1:23:56.720 Why are you guys keeping your back here? You were 1:23:56.760 --> 1:23:59.920 sitting next to my friend Kelly, my two guests on 1:24:00.040 --> 1:24:01.680 to show the guy. It was a couple that was 1:24:01.720 --> 1:24:06.120 sitting next to you. Yeah. So like they're big Bachelor fans. 1:24:06.120 --> 1:24:08.600 They do like he does ESPN stuff and he's like 1:24:08.880 --> 1:24:11.840 like we were sitting next to Kelly. I was like, well, 1:24:11.880 --> 1:24:14.080 you're welcome. I didn't even plan it that way, but 1:24:14.200 --> 1:24:18.080 you're welcome. That's so funny. And the first time I 1:24:18.080 --> 1:24:20.559 ever saw her there, it was there in the first 1:24:20.600 --> 1:24:22.720 commercial break and then Chris is like, hey, so I 1:24:22.760 --> 1:24:24.599 just did a little shift that out to Kelly. She's 1:24:24.640 --> 1:24:26.040 up there, and I looked at it. Kelly just waving, 1:24:26.200 --> 1:24:30.120 like what were y'all in communication at that point? Like 1:24:30.160 --> 1:24:33.280 were y'all like cool? Y'all hadn't okay? I like people 1:24:33.320 --> 1:24:36.120 think everything happened like before. I didn't get her number 1:24:36.200 --> 1:24:39.880 until so I was talking about Christian that night, like 1:24:40.200 --> 1:24:43.559 nothing before. Well, in all fairness, you don't really need 1:24:43.600 --> 1:24:47.960 phone numbers these days, there's so many ways to communicate. So, Kelly, 1:24:48.000 --> 1:24:50.679 I'll ask you this question because we asked Peter when 1:24:50.760 --> 1:24:53.479 we know that you guys have been quarantined before those 1:24:53.680 --> 1:24:58.880 infamous TMZ photos, when you decided to say, you know what, 1:24:58.920 --> 1:25:00.599 we're going to go to the river Walk where y'all 1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:05.720 just like fuck it, We're gonna go. Who cares? Who sees? No, 1:25:05.880 --> 1:25:08.360 not the social distancing, I mean like being out in public. 1:25:08.560 --> 1:25:11.160 Oh No, to be completely honest, I think we're pretty 1:25:11.240 --> 1:25:14.640 naive and in that aspect um, you know, I was 1:25:14.680 --> 1:25:17.840 wearing like two hoods. He was wearing sunglasses and a hat, 1:25:17.920 --> 1:25:20.760 and I guess that just doesn't really work well with 1:25:20.840 --> 1:25:24.160 Clay and dust In two. I mean like stick out 1:25:24.200 --> 1:25:26.400 like sort of you know what's crazy? The real quick 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:29.639 this is insane? Um. So Katrina, who lives in Chicago 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:34.320 as well, she sent a picture to Kelly this is insane, 1:25:34.360 --> 1:25:43.160 like loose Katrina Katrina night one with the pussycat. Oh, 1:25:43.880 --> 1:25:47.800 I don't start knowing name. Still halfway through she had 1:25:47.800 --> 1:25:50.320 taken a picture like a selfie sitting on the river 1:25:50.400 --> 1:25:53.040 walk this is crazy, and then in the background it's 1:25:53.040 --> 1:25:55.120 the three. It was the three of us with Dustin 1:25:55.160 --> 1:25:57.559 as well. You could tell what we were wearing if 1:25:57.560 --> 1:26:00.360 you compare to other pictures, and we're like, this is insane. 1:26:00.400 --> 1:26:03.960 You can't go the leaka one who I thought looked 1:26:03.960 --> 1:26:07.559 like me and a Dobrev Right, who's that? I thought 1:26:08.840 --> 1:26:11.280 she looked like some actress when I think that was her? 1:26:12.000 --> 1:26:16.560 Okay she was she was at woman tell all? Okay, 1:26:14.360 --> 1:26:21.800 ye how was that? Woman's all? Definitely I'm sorry, I 1:26:21.840 --> 1:26:23.680 would say, well, we'll see you are on Paradise, but 1:26:23.760 --> 1:26:27.840 who knows if Paradise is even moving forward? Yeah, well, okay, 1:26:27.880 --> 1:26:30.320 let me ask you this, because Kelly Peter's being very 1:26:30.439 --> 1:26:34.040 quoit about where your relationship stands these days. If Paradise 1:26:34.040 --> 1:26:39.120 happens and you get asked, would you go, yeah, I don't. 1:26:39.600 --> 1:26:44.559 I don't think I'm made for these shows affect it. 1:26:44.640 --> 1:26:48.840 They're amazing. It was an experience, but I don't know. 1:26:49.080 --> 1:26:52.360 I don't know how much of the future I have them. Well, 1:26:52.360 --> 1:26:55.320 what about friends, because like I remember, coming on, I 1:26:55.360 --> 1:26:58.120 was like, I'm gonna stick to myself. I'm the oldest 1:26:58.120 --> 1:27:00.360 one in the house. I'm just gonna read my book books, 1:27:00.360 --> 1:27:02.000 go on these dates, do my thing. And I was 1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:05.720 pleasantly surprised that I have friends on the show and 1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:08.800 that I know will be friends forever. Was that the 1:27:08.840 --> 1:27:10.760 same experience you had? And if so, who are you 1:27:10.800 --> 1:27:15.479 close to? Yeah? Coming coming off the show, it's funny 1:27:15.520 --> 1:27:17.000 because when you're on the show and off the show, 1:27:17.080 --> 1:27:20.760 you you gravitate towards other people. But yeah, I talked 1:27:20.800 --> 1:27:25.479 to like McKenna and Kelsey every day, um and throughout 1:27:25.680 --> 1:27:27.960 throughout the whole you know of it airing back, you 1:27:28.040 --> 1:27:31.240 kind of just gravitate towards what episode is going on 1:27:31.360 --> 1:27:33.720 and who you're with on that group date or what 1:27:33.840 --> 1:27:36.880 happened there, you know. Um, but I'm friends with with 1:27:36.920 --> 1:27:38.960 all the girls. I don't have any beef with any 1:27:38.960 --> 1:27:42.599 of them. Um. Yeah, Kelsey and mckennare are the ones 1:27:42.640 --> 1:27:45.479 that day keep in contact with a lot. Well, my 1:27:45.640 --> 1:27:49.559 forever favorite moment of you will be laying back on 1:27:49.600 --> 1:27:53.080 that bench with that foot up twirling. I said, Kelly 1:27:53.200 --> 1:27:56.400 is an entire mood that is me. I was, like, 1:27:56.479 --> 1:28:01.400 I have Kelly, Kelly is me crazy? I tell him 1:28:01.400 --> 1:28:03.680 all the time, like I've listened to y'all's podcasts, and 1:28:03.720 --> 1:28:06.360 the way that you think is very similar to mine, 1:28:07.160 --> 1:28:09.280 Like everything you usually say. I was like, spun on 1:28:09.360 --> 1:28:10.600 s fun on, Like I get it, I get it. 1:28:10.640 --> 1:28:12.160 And I keep telling him that. I was like, just 1:28:12.160 --> 1:28:15.760 the way that she thinks like is incredible, Like I'm so, 1:28:16.160 --> 1:28:18.880 I'm literally jealous because you can tell you're you're super 1:28:18.920 --> 1:28:22.360 intelligent with everything you say. And thank you fut on 1:28:22.479 --> 1:28:25.720 for I don't know everything. It's you know, you know, 1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:28.040 law school is like it teaches you a certain way 1:28:28.080 --> 1:28:30.680 to think more than anything else. But it's nice to 1:28:30.720 --> 1:28:33.880 hear it's appreciated because it's not appreciated by most. I 1:28:33.960 --> 1:28:37.080 always say our podcast is a logical like, it's not 1:28:37.080 --> 1:28:39.600 for the hopeless romantics. You know, we're here to just 1:28:39.640 --> 1:28:42.720 like have a discussion and to talk things out, and 1:28:42.800 --> 1:28:44.800 not everybody wants to hear that. And there are other 1:28:44.880 --> 1:28:48.120 podcasts you can go to for that. Kelly, I will 1:28:48.160 --> 1:28:51.240 say you watching you and Rache and I have loved 1:28:51.240 --> 1:28:53.000 you the entire season. You were one of our favorites 1:28:53.000 --> 1:28:55.160 because you're just a breath of fresh air, because you 1:28:55.240 --> 1:28:58.559 are logical, you are intelligent, you speak your mind, you 1:28:58.600 --> 1:29:01.880 are very articulate, but rich. I'm gonna disagree, and I'm 1:29:01.880 --> 1:29:04.679 gonna say the best moment of Kelly on the season 1:29:04.880 --> 1:29:09.519 was when you were the aboiler. Yeah, yes, that moment. 1:29:09.840 --> 1:29:14.840 You're right, You're right, Becca, That was I knew I 1:29:14.880 --> 1:29:16.800 liked it before, but watching you was the aboiler, I 1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:19.800 was like, God, she's good. And then when and when 1:29:19.800 --> 1:29:21.880 she and then when she like changed the script up though, 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:23.880 because like that she wasn't the script and it was 1:29:23.920 --> 1:29:25.640 just like, pought me off guard while we're filming ou, 1:29:25.640 --> 1:29:29.480 I'm like, what it was like, let's go, oh, quarantine, 1:29:29.520 --> 1:29:32.920 can you like, play act and do another telenovela together. 1:29:32.960 --> 1:29:36.160 That's what you should do. Yeah, we didn't give them 1:29:36.200 --> 1:29:38.320 the tiktoks. We don't have when it takes that TikTok, 1:29:38.360 --> 1:29:42.839 but we can get listen. I am an anti TikTok person. 1:29:43.040 --> 1:29:46.439 Becca just joined. I can't get it. I would I 1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:48.519 would be worse than you, So kudos to you for 1:29:48.640 --> 1:29:53.280 doing it. I can't. Kelly. Have you been on any 1:29:53.320 --> 1:29:55.559 of the other podcasts? Did you do Nick or Kaylin's 1:29:55.600 --> 1:29:59.240 or are we the first? No? She she was with 1:29:59.600 --> 1:30:03.639 Kaitlin and Ben Okay, can you tell can you guys 1:30:03.640 --> 1:30:05.439 tell us like one thing that you didn't tell them, 1:30:05.520 --> 1:30:09.840 like some juicy detail, some juicy d give us, like 1:30:10.120 --> 1:30:12.360 give us something good that we can run with here, 1:30:13.360 --> 1:30:19.439 an exclusive, an exclusive? Kind of boring? Kelly, have you 1:30:19.439 --> 1:30:29.439 seen Peter in the shower during this quarantine? Is Peter 1:30:29.560 --> 1:30:33.120 better in real life or on the show? Oh my god, 1:30:33.160 --> 1:30:39.320 in real life better? I think pick up for him. 1:30:39.320 --> 1:30:40.880 I was like, some parts of him that you saw 1:30:41.000 --> 1:30:44.280 were like necessarily him. But I even used to say 1:30:44.280 --> 1:30:46.120 on the show, I was like, there's Peter Webber and 1:30:46.120 --> 1:30:49.280 then there's Bachelor, the Peter or the bachelor, Peter, and 1:30:49.960 --> 1:30:51.720 you know they're big. You stop saying that, And I 1:30:51.760 --> 1:30:53.960 was like, no, true, I met him outside of this 1:30:54.280 --> 1:30:57.240 and he's so much cooler than he is on Peter, 1:30:58.080 --> 1:31:01.080 you are cool. Well we did see on the show. 1:31:02.200 --> 1:31:04.400 I guess I'd rather have it that way than vice versus. 1:31:04.400 --> 1:31:07.400 So thank you. No, absolutely, So you feel like if 1:31:07.439 --> 1:31:09.880 you met Peter, well you did meet him in real 1:31:09.920 --> 1:31:12.400 life before, but like you guys could hit it off, 1:31:13.080 --> 1:31:17.400 Oh for sure, Yeah, I think though, yeah, it's definitely 1:31:17.439 --> 1:31:20.200 a it's yes, it's a compliment taken. It's a fine 1:31:20.240 --> 1:31:22.479 line to try to be both the same person you 1:31:22.520 --> 1:31:24.719 see on TV is the same person you are in person, 1:31:24.800 --> 1:31:27.639 so right, you know, I know, yeah, Well, and that's 1:31:27.640 --> 1:31:29.559 the thing I think as leads, there's so much that 1:31:29.640 --> 1:31:32.840 happens that can't be portrayed on TV, and so I 1:31:32.840 --> 1:31:35.360 think for everyone, anyone who's ever been on the show, 1:31:35.400 --> 1:31:38.439 there's so much more. People are way funnier or more 1:31:38.560 --> 1:31:40.960 charismatic than what they come across. And Peter, I mean, 1:31:40.960 --> 1:31:44.160 I've met you now a few times in person, and 1:31:44.840 --> 1:31:49.720 like you really are just this very warm, bighearted, like 1:31:50.200 --> 1:31:54.120 fun charismatic guy that that I think we saw a 1:31:54.160 --> 1:31:55.479 good part of it on the show. But I think 1:31:55.479 --> 1:31:58.360 that they're so much more and so, you know, regardless 1:31:58.360 --> 1:32:00.760 of what happened throughout the entire season and it didn't 1:32:00.800 --> 1:32:03.760 pan out, I'm sure as anyone had expected. Um, I 1:32:03.800 --> 1:32:05.760 think you are on your own path and I'm so 1:32:05.920 --> 1:32:08.599 happy you were are a bautchelo, I really am. Yeah, 1:32:08.640 --> 1:32:10.880 you seem happy. Like we've talked to you a couple 1:32:10.880 --> 1:32:14.800 of times in studio. You're different, You're different. Thanks Kelly. 1:32:15.000 --> 1:32:19.880 Thanks Kelly, she's been amazing. How many times have you 1:32:19.920 --> 1:32:27.640 FaceTime Barb. Yeah, she's obsessed with Sophie Dustin's dogs and 1:32:27.640 --> 1:32:29.280 she's always calling, Hey, let me see Sophie, let me 1:32:29.280 --> 1:32:32.240 see Sophie, let me see Chop Chop. So that's that's Kelly, 1:32:32.320 --> 1:32:35.800 Chop Chop. We heard about Chop chopped up? All right, Well, Kelly, 1:32:35.840 --> 1:32:39.240 we're so happy you popped into this. Thank you boys. 1:32:39.720 --> 1:32:43.719 Thanks Kelly. We hope to see more at you. Um 1:32:44.040 --> 1:32:47.280 So Peter, as I just said, you know, there's obviously 1:32:47.360 --> 1:32:51.200 so much more than than what anyone can ever see 1:32:51.240 --> 1:32:54.320 on the TV show. Um. And when people say like 1:32:54.479 --> 1:32:57.200 they thought the ending was staged and the finale was staged, 1:32:57.320 --> 1:33:00.519 I don't think so, because like we and we met 1:33:00.560 --> 1:33:03.840 with you in the studio before the season started. We 1:33:03.880 --> 1:33:05.960 asked you, like, what are you hoping from this? Like 1:33:06.000 --> 1:33:07.920 what do you want to be known for? And you 1:33:07.960 --> 1:33:09.200 were like, I don't want to be known for a 1:33:09.240 --> 1:33:11.920 windmill or an inanimate object, like I want to be 1:33:11.960 --> 1:33:16.000 known for having the best love story. And unfortunately, for 1:33:16.080 --> 1:33:19.479 your time on the show itself, that didn't happen. Like, yes, 1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:21.400 you fell in love with a couple of girls, you 1:33:21.439 --> 1:33:23.880 were engaged, it didn't pan out with either of them, 1:33:24.200 --> 1:33:27.040 and I don't think that's anything you expected going into it. 1:33:27.080 --> 1:33:29.439 I don't think you could have foreseen any of what 1:33:29.560 --> 1:33:33.000 went down. So that's why like watching it, I'm like, dude, like, 1:33:33.040 --> 1:33:35.599 no offense, but this really sucks, Like all he wanted 1:33:36.120 --> 1:33:38.200 was to share his heart and to share this love 1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:41.840 story with the world. And so you know, you're making 1:33:41.840 --> 1:33:44.519 your own story now away from the TV. We don't 1:33:44.560 --> 1:33:48.160 know what's going to necessarily happen with Kelly. But going 1:33:48.240 --> 1:33:50.479 back to your time, obviously it didn't pan out as 1:33:50.520 --> 1:33:53.400 you thought. But I'm sure we all have regrets going 1:33:53.439 --> 1:33:56.559 through it at moments. But what was your biggest regret 1:33:56.600 --> 1:34:01.280 and biggest takeaway from being the lead. My biggest regret 1:34:01.439 --> 1:34:03.760 I think was and it for me, it's so tough 1:34:03.800 --> 1:34:07.519 to like kind of admit or be okay with because 1:34:07.560 --> 1:34:09.080 like I know the kind of person that I am, 1:34:09.240 --> 1:34:11.960 and at the end of the day, I can't change 1:34:11.960 --> 1:34:16.200 myself to like be different. But the one thing that 1:34:16.280 --> 1:34:18.320 kind of sucked the most, I think was me just 1:34:18.680 --> 1:34:21.639 being a little bit too empathetic throughout the entire process 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:24.880 and not putting my foot down in certain situations. And 1:34:26.000 --> 1:34:27.719 I guess do it. If I could have done it again, 1:34:27.760 --> 1:34:29.559 like I had a second chance, I could have tried 1:34:29.600 --> 1:34:31.000 a little bit harder. But at the end of the day, 1:34:31.000 --> 1:34:33.639 I am who I am, And so it's like it's 1:34:33.640 --> 1:34:35.200 a regret, but it's like something I regret that I 1:34:35.200 --> 1:34:37.439 would I would continue to keep making because that's just 1:34:37.479 --> 1:34:39.640 the person I am. And maybe that's this kind of 1:34:39.680 --> 1:34:43.200 process wasn't ideal for me being on this side, as 1:34:43.320 --> 1:34:46.240 you know, the Bachelor, but that's who I am, and 1:34:46.280 --> 1:34:49.800 I can't change who I am. And in regards like 1:34:49.840 --> 1:34:52.200 what you said about you know, yeah, I remember saying that, 1:34:52.240 --> 1:34:54.280 like I didn't want, I didn't care about any drama 1:34:54.280 --> 1:34:56.080 of being remembered for this or that I wanted to 1:34:56.080 --> 1:34:58.560 give people because I've been such the hopeless romantic. The 1:34:58.680 --> 1:35:01.519 romantic like that's where they could live vicariously through and 1:35:01.560 --> 1:35:04.599 like inspire them to like never settle and like look 1:35:04.640 --> 1:35:06.800 for hopefully what I was going to go fine, But 1:35:07.120 --> 1:35:11.360 even though it didn't work out that way, I still 1:35:11.840 --> 1:35:14.320 I hope that it can inspire people just kind of 1:35:14.360 --> 1:35:17.640 seeing me now and where I'm at. And I've always said, like, 1:35:17.800 --> 1:35:20.519 I'm not a hopeless romantic. I don't like the word 1:35:20.520 --> 1:35:23.200 hopeless because I'm the kind of romantic that never loses 1:35:23.240 --> 1:35:25.200 hope that you know what, that didn't work and that 1:35:25.280 --> 1:35:26.600 didn't work, and there was so much should I had 1:35:26.640 --> 1:35:28.519 to go through with that, But guess what, I'm still 1:35:28.560 --> 1:35:30.600 having that mindset that, you know, the next person is 1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:33.400 going to be my girl, And if I can still 1:35:33.400 --> 1:35:35.479 feel that way after what it has went through, hopefully 1:35:35.479 --> 1:35:37.439 that can in a different way inspire people in a 1:35:37.479 --> 1:35:39.559 way I didn't think was possibly going to at the 1:35:39.560 --> 1:35:43.479 beginning of the season. Ye Peter very well said, so, 1:35:43.520 --> 1:35:46.160 I have one last question for you, being that this 1:35:46.240 --> 1:35:48.840 is kind of like a redemption podcast for you and 1:35:50.479 --> 1:35:53.920 a ring right just imbost failed down a lot going 1:35:53.960 --> 1:35:57.400 on in this closet, saying that this is a redemption 1:35:57.439 --> 1:35:59.519 podcast for you. And we started out at the beginning 1:35:59.560 --> 1:36:02.559 asking you about the coronavirus. I want to ask you 1:36:02.640 --> 1:36:07.120 this last question. It's interesting you say empathy because I 1:36:07.160 --> 1:36:09.880 think a lot of people would have labeled that that 1:36:09.960 --> 1:36:12.479 you were indecisive. So that's why I think what you 1:36:12.560 --> 1:36:14.920 said is very powerful, because it's like, Okay, I actually 1:36:14.920 --> 1:36:16.559 can see that, I can see how you were being 1:36:16.640 --> 1:36:19.280 very empathetic, but a lot of people have labeled you 1:36:19.320 --> 1:36:23.519 as indecisive. A lot of people have had opinions on 1:36:23.560 --> 1:36:27.280 you one way or another for various reasons, kind of 1:36:27.320 --> 1:36:29.840 as if I don't want to use certain words, but 1:36:29.880 --> 1:36:32.080 basically is if you don't make your own decisions, and 1:36:32.520 --> 1:36:35.559 I'm going outside of even them saying because of your mom, 1:36:35.680 --> 1:36:37.120 just a lot of people have had a lot to 1:36:37.160 --> 1:36:40.000 say about you that I don't necessarily agree with. Beca 1:36:40.040 --> 1:36:41.840 and I have had the chance to get to know 1:36:41.960 --> 1:36:44.840 you off of the podcast. You're a great guy. Your 1:36:44.920 --> 1:36:48.959 character's outstanding. I mean, like, you send us a voicemail 1:36:49.040 --> 1:36:50.920 the other day and I turned to Brian, I was like, 1:36:51.520 --> 1:36:53.680 you couldn't be mad at Peter if you tried, you 1:36:53.800 --> 1:36:57.920 just couldn't. He's just such a good person. But I 1:36:58.000 --> 1:37:00.160 feel defensive of you. And I've said this before, is 1:37:00.160 --> 1:37:02.240 I feel like people have a lot to say about you. 1:37:02.560 --> 1:37:04.080 So I just kind of want to give you the 1:37:04.120 --> 1:37:06.720 opportunity and give you the floor like Becca did at 1:37:06.720 --> 1:37:09.640 the beginning of this podcast, to just address it. The 1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:11.920 people who have the stuff to say about you, and 1:37:11.960 --> 1:37:14.840 that like you can't make your own decisions and you're indecisive. 1:37:14.960 --> 1:37:18.320 What do you have to say about that? Uh? You know, 1:37:18.439 --> 1:37:22.240 and yeah, I've heard that. It's ton and listen, I'll 1:37:22.280 --> 1:37:24.559 admit to a lot of it. I was indecisive in 1:37:24.600 --> 1:37:26.720 regards a lot of situations. But and I'm okay with 1:37:26.760 --> 1:37:29.320 that because that, to me was just showing how how 1:37:29.360 --> 1:37:31.639 well this did work for me, and it was working 1:37:31.680 --> 1:37:33.920 for me. You know, I didn't want to fall from 1:37:33.960 --> 1:37:36.040 multiple women. I didn't want to have to have these 1:37:36.040 --> 1:37:39.160 crazy confusion you know days, these weeks I had to 1:37:39.200 --> 1:37:42.240 deal with, but I did. And so you know, I 1:37:42.280 --> 1:37:44.559 look the way I look at it, it's like I 1:37:44.600 --> 1:37:47.920 wasn't indecisive. That probably be a little bit weird because 1:37:48.240 --> 1:37:51.040 maybe it wasn't working as well as maybe maybe it's 1:37:51.040 --> 1:37:53.000 the wrong opinion. But that's honestly that that's that's how 1:37:53.040 --> 1:37:55.600 I look at it, um, you know, in regards to 1:37:55.640 --> 1:37:57.559 being like empathetic and like, I know, there's a lot 1:37:57.600 --> 1:38:00.479 of relationships why people like didn't understand why I was 1:38:00.520 --> 1:38:03.680 like maybe possibly giving that person so many chances or um, 1:38:03.880 --> 1:38:06.160 you know, not seeing the red flags right away or whatnot. 1:38:06.439 --> 1:38:09.400 And you know, and I'll specifically say, like one with 1:38:09.400 --> 1:38:11.000 like Victoria, if I know, I got a lot of 1:38:11.000 --> 1:38:15.240 like backlash on that relationship, like me going into this 1:38:15.360 --> 1:38:18.880 and like I've always been such a proponent for grace 1:38:19.120 --> 1:38:21.400 and like in a relationship that's so important also to 1:38:21.439 --> 1:38:23.160 be able to give one of the most beautiful gifts 1:38:23.200 --> 1:38:27.120 you can give. The definition of grace is like is 1:38:28.240 --> 1:38:33.400 unwarranted us undeserved forgiveness and like, so that's how that 1:38:33.479 --> 1:38:35.360 was my mindset, And a lot of these relationships that 1:38:35.400 --> 1:38:36.920 people didn't get why I was doing what I was 1:38:36.960 --> 1:38:40.200 doing or whatnot. Like I always trying to practice that 1:38:40.360 --> 1:38:43.680 and like, you know, not just preach it, but practice it. Um, 1:38:43.720 --> 1:38:46.080 So listen, that's still though, doesn't I made a ton 1:38:46.120 --> 1:38:48.599 of mistakes. I fess up to that over and over. 1:38:48.640 --> 1:38:51.000 The biggest one and the one that I hurt. My 1:38:51.040 --> 1:38:54.559 biggest regret I take back was you know, putting hand 1:38:54.600 --> 1:38:57.080 and what I put her through and like that to me, 1:38:57.640 --> 1:39:00.799 you know, is something that I will forever feel horrible 1:39:00.840 --> 1:39:04.120 about because I just care for her so much. But 1:39:06.320 --> 1:39:10.160 you know, through all that, I do feel like she's 1:39:10.200 --> 1:39:12.200 going to be Madison's going to be all the other 1:39:12.240 --> 1:39:16.240 women myself, like we are gonna still forever be grateful 1:39:16.280 --> 1:39:19.720 for this experience we share together. And you know, I 1:39:19.840 --> 1:39:22.519 never for sure we'll ever regret being the Bachelor, that's 1:39:22.560 --> 1:39:25.759 for sure. Just the experience I had, the lessons I learned, 1:39:25.920 --> 1:39:27.280 I'll take with me for the rest of our lives. 1:39:27.320 --> 1:39:30.120 So well, that's great, and luckily Bachelination has a short 1:39:30.200 --> 1:39:33.080 term memory. So that's what I hear. But there's no 1:39:33.120 --> 1:39:36.000 other show being a film right now? The attention all yeah, 1:39:37.280 --> 1:39:39.720 you really are? You really are getting the short end 1:39:39.760 --> 1:39:42.840 of the stick here, because yeah, no one, I mean 1:39:42.920 --> 1:39:44.800 until Listen to Your Heart starts, no one's going to 1:39:44.880 --> 1:39:46.840 be able to talk about another show. So Peter, one 1:39:46.960 --> 1:39:50.360 last question before we let you get going here. The 1:39:50.479 --> 1:39:52.880 entire season, I think it can be said, and Rachel 1:39:52.880 --> 1:39:54.759 and I have said this to like what does Peter want? 1:39:54.800 --> 1:39:58.040 What do you want? It might have been different going 1:39:58.120 --> 1:40:00.960 into the season than it is now, But what ultimately 1:40:01.000 --> 1:40:03.479 do you want in a partner? What are you looking 1:40:03.520 --> 1:40:05.200 for that's really going to fill you at the end 1:40:05.240 --> 1:40:11.439 of the day. I want someone that, listen, all, I 1:40:11.439 --> 1:40:12.960 still want a lot of the same things I wanted 1:40:12.960 --> 1:40:18.880 from the beginning of the show, but someone that you know, 1:40:20.080 --> 1:40:22.680 really just gets me for who I am and it 1:40:22.760 --> 1:40:24.360 is never going to try to have me change in 1:40:24.400 --> 1:40:26.840 any way, even if they think it might be a 1:40:26.840 --> 1:40:29.880 weakness in me. It's something they appreciate about me. And 1:40:30.479 --> 1:40:32.760 you know, someone that I do feel like we can 1:40:32.760 --> 1:40:34.759 really challenge each other. And that's not to be negative 1:40:34.840 --> 1:40:36.280 or like, oh he needs to have a problem or 1:40:36.280 --> 1:40:37.680 an issue or he needs the drama. That's not what 1:40:37.720 --> 1:40:39.759 it is. But someone that really just you both challenge 1:40:39.800 --> 1:40:44.760 each other really well. And you know, I've had the 1:40:44.760 --> 1:40:47.040 opportunity to just to see and date a lot of 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:50.360 different personalities in different women obviously in the last two months, 1:40:50.439 --> 1:40:51.960 and like, so I see a lot of what I 1:40:52.000 --> 1:40:54.080 like and what I don't like now, and so I'm 1:40:54.080 --> 1:40:58.320 going to use that for sure moving forward. And you know, 1:40:58.320 --> 1:40:59.800 at the end of the day, just someone that just 1:41:00.040 --> 1:41:03.280 makes me happy, and um, I can make them happy. 1:41:03.320 --> 1:41:06.160 And it's nothing really much more complicated than that. UM, 1:41:06.240 --> 1:41:09.640 And I know that's that's gonna happen for me. We 1:41:09.720 --> 1:41:11.920 know it will, and we'll be watching, We will be 1:41:11.920 --> 1:41:19.960 watching and hopefully well, Peter, we loved having you on. 1:41:20.080 --> 1:41:22.120 I mean we said it before, but we're always going 1:41:22.200 --> 1:41:24.559 to root for your happiness. We're always gonna want you 1:41:25.360 --> 1:41:27.599 to find love because, like I said, you have such 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:30.040 a big heart and we've seen that and so I 1:41:30.080 --> 1:41:32.120 really want you at the end of the day to 1:41:32.200 --> 1:41:34.600 hopefully find what you're looking for. Um. You know, we 1:41:34.640 --> 1:41:37.479 all go through these crazy ups and downs, especially being 1:41:37.520 --> 1:41:40.200 from the show. UM, but it seems like you did 1:41:40.280 --> 1:41:42.120 learn a lot and took a lot. So we're always 1:41:42.120 --> 1:41:45.080 going to be your biggest supporters here, um, because we can. 1:41:45.080 --> 1:41:47.360 Really it's it's a crazy world that you've gotten yourself 1:41:47.400 --> 1:41:50.160 into and you're part of it now you're stuck with us, um, 1:41:50.360 --> 1:41:53.600 but we're happy that we can all be in it together. No, 1:41:53.840 --> 1:41:55.640 I love you both so much and I thank you 1:41:55.640 --> 1:41:57.800 for everything, just always being there for me, and you know, 1:41:57.840 --> 1:41:59.880 the whole whole ways of thank you. Oh, Peter, and 1:42:00.040 --> 1:42:02.760 one thing too, I should say, um, my mom was 1:42:02.840 --> 1:42:06.479 actually asking for your mom's number because my mom, My 1:42:06.520 --> 1:42:09.160 mom struggled a lot while I was gone on the show, 1:42:09.240 --> 1:42:13.080 just because she she couldn't really talk to me, you know. Um, 1:42:13.360 --> 1:42:15.479 so she she wants, she was joking the other day, 1:42:15.479 --> 1:42:18.639 she wants to start like a support group of bachelor parents. 1:42:18.680 --> 1:42:20.240 So I think she actually reached out to your mom 1:42:20.280 --> 1:42:23.639 on Instagram, so hopefully they can chat aside. Um. Yeah, 1:42:25.120 --> 1:42:27.559 but when all this quarantine is said and done, we're 1:42:27.560 --> 1:42:33.040 all coming over and bringing my mom for some Cuban food. Okay, yeah, 1:42:34.400 --> 1:42:38.120 I fire it up. No, for sure she's gonna love that. 1:42:38.240 --> 1:42:40.720 So I can't wait. Thanks Peter so much for doing this. 1:42:40.880 --> 1:42:42.599 Hopefully this is it for you. Now you can live 1:42:42.600 --> 1:42:46.800 your life. That's all right, you just do you. Thank 1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:48.880 you so much for giving us your time. Thank Kelly, 1:42:49.080 --> 1:42:52.320 and tell Dustin what's up to m hugs? All right, 1:42:52.360 --> 1:42:55.040 Love you guys, Love to by Peter. You know. It's 1:42:55.080 --> 1:42:57.320 so I'm really glad we talked to Peter Becca, because 1:42:57.360 --> 1:43:00.559 I'll be honest, I was a little indifferent about doing 1:43:00.600 --> 1:43:02.880 an interview because I thought, Okay, are we just going 1:43:02.920 --> 1:43:06.240 to be rehashing the same things over and over again. 1:43:06.800 --> 1:43:08.880 Is this just gonna be? You know, I don't know. 1:43:08.960 --> 1:43:11.760 I just didn't think that. I know our listeners wanted it, 1:43:11.800 --> 1:43:13.680 but I just wasn't sure how the podcast would go. 1:43:14.200 --> 1:43:17.400 And I am so glad we did it. I thought 1:43:17.400 --> 1:43:21.000 that Peter is a new Peter. Dare I say it? 1:43:21.240 --> 1:43:25.200 I think people will be surprised, pleasantly surprised at what 1:43:25.240 --> 1:43:28.240 they heard Peter say and where he is and where 1:43:28.240 --> 1:43:30.479 he was coming from. And I honestly think he's in 1:43:30.520 --> 1:43:34.080 a headspace now to clearly talk about it without being 1:43:34.120 --> 1:43:37.799 biased or too emotional from what had happened before. I agree. 1:43:37.880 --> 1:43:41.679 I think a little time and space and distance always helps, 1:43:41.760 --> 1:43:44.519 and even for me. I mean, we were supposed to 1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:47.599 speak to him right after the finale, and I personally, 1:43:48.040 --> 1:43:50.639 I think in that moment I would have come at 1:43:50.680 --> 1:43:53.679 the interview as like a scorned woman because I could 1:43:53.680 --> 1:43:56.840 relate with him Anne and I was in that mindset. 1:43:56.920 --> 1:43:59.960 And so it's good to now have a little distance 1:44:00.200 --> 1:44:03.240 from everything that went down. We've seen Peter kind of 1:44:03.280 --> 1:44:05.920 move on from his season with Kelly, We've seen the 1:44:05.960 --> 1:44:08.640 girls kind of move on, and so I think it 1:44:08.680 --> 1:44:11.360 helps to shape the conversation a little bit better. And 1:44:11.400 --> 1:44:14.000 as you said, Peter now has some space, he has 1:44:14.000 --> 1:44:17.280 some clarity. He can come at this and finally really 1:44:17.360 --> 1:44:19.160 say what he wants to say and what he wants 1:44:19.160 --> 1:44:20.759 to get off of his chest. So I'm so happy 1:44:20.760 --> 1:44:24.080 we finally spoke with him. Yeah, plus we got Kelly. Now, 1:44:24.080 --> 1:44:26.439 if we had done this interview right after the finale, 1:44:26.560 --> 1:44:28.479 we never would have gone Kelly. So thank you for that. 1:44:28.640 --> 1:44:30.360 Thank you for Kelly for making a guest appearance on 1:44:30.479 --> 1:44:33.080 Bachelor Happy Hours. So glad we finally got you. Yes, 1:44:33.200 --> 1:44:35.519 it was a good one, guys, but we have to 1:44:35.560 --> 1:44:38.240 start leaving him alone because a new show is coming 1:44:38.360 --> 1:44:41.000 up starting this Monday. We have Listened to Your Heart, 1:44:41.040 --> 1:44:43.320 which we have to look forward to and I cannot wait. 1:44:44.000 --> 1:44:47.040 But Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, you can actually get our 1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:49.679 first interviews on the show. We have a new podcast 1:44:49.760 --> 1:44:52.040 dropping this Friday where you can get our take on 1:44:52.080 --> 1:44:54.760 what's to come and listen to your Heart. That's right, 1:44:54.840 --> 1:44:57.280 we are the official podcast, which means we are dropping 1:44:57.280 --> 1:45:00.519 things first, So you're welcome. For Peter, that is over 1:45:00.560 --> 1:45:03.040 and done with, We're entering a new season. Listen to 1:45:03.080 --> 1:45:07.400 your Heart, so excited. April thirteenth, eight seven Central. We've 1:45:07.439 --> 1:45:10.000 got two contestants coming up on the show. 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