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Speaker 1: Hey, Happy Hour listeners, I hope you enjoyed these throwback

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Speaker 1: episodes of Happy Hour. We'll be back with new episodes

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Speaker 1: very soon. What's up, fascination. Of course, we hope you're

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Speaker 1: all staying safe, healthy, saying, I know you're probably a

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Speaker 1: little stir crazy. I know I am, I know Becca is.

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Speaker 1: Actually I'm oddly content right now, which is weird. So

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Speaker 1: I just feel like I'm gonna crack any moment. But

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Speaker 1: whatever you're feeling right now, we are here to make

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Speaker 1: you feel better because we have on the podcast today

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Speaker 1: none other than Peter Weber. That's right. I feel like

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Speaker 1: this has been an unusual season because usually you get

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Speaker 1: your answers, you kind of know how things end, and

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Speaker 1: you move on and you get ready for the next season.

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Speaker 1: Well that hasn't been the case because we are in quarantine.

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Speaker 1: There's not a current Bachelorette season filming right now. Things

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Speaker 1: were kind of up in the air when it came

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Speaker 1: to Peter's season. We've never seen an ending like this,

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Speaker 1: so we were just kind of left in limbo. So

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Speaker 1: none of us know much more than we're seeing out

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Speaker 1: there today. So finally we'll get to see what's going

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Speaker 1: on from Peter himself. Yeah, Rachel, I cannot wait. This

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Speaker 1: is one of the interviews that I mean, obviously we

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Speaker 1: this is probably one of the most requested interviews we've

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Speaker 1: had yet. I'd literally still to this day gid DMS

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Speaker 1: being like, bring Peter on, bring Peter on. So today

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Speaker 1: is that day. Now. I don't know about you, but

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Speaker 1: on a very selfish and personal level, I'm just dying

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Speaker 1: to know what's going on, because, like you said, we

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Speaker 1: of what maybe maybe what he's doing, where he is,

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Speaker 1: who he's hanging out with, but it hasn't been confirmed

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Speaker 1: by Peter himself yet, and so I can't wait to

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Speaker 1: get him on. Obviously, we've spoken with Hannah Ann after

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Speaker 1: the finale. We got hert take, but we need Peter's

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Speaker 1: take too, because there's probably much more to the story

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Speaker 1: and we're missing a lot, you know, and Peter, Like I,

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Speaker 1: regardless of what people think about Peter and how his

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Speaker 1: season ended, I still love him. I still want nothing

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Speaker 1: just have to get into it, bring him in. Because

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Speaker 1: from the beginning, Becca, from the beginning, well, Rachel, we've

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Speaker 1: joked all season, like we kept saying when it was

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Speaker 1: wanted to end and figure out what's going on, and

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Speaker 1: like we never got anything because obviously the way everything

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Speaker 1: have changed since then. So I think I think, without

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Speaker 1: further ado, we just have to get into it. We

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Speaker 1: have to get started with Peter. So, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy our listeners, please give a warm welcome to

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Speaker 1: our latest Bachelor, Peter Wepper. Peter, Hi, Peter, Hello, Hello,

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Speaker 1: how's it going. I'm good, showing like a villain, you know, Peter.

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Speaker 1: Where are you at right now? I'm in So, I'm

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Speaker 1: in Chicago. I'm at Kelly's apartment right now, getting the

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Speaker 1: good stuff right away. By the way, I got dustin,

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Speaker 1: That says Hi. Dusty waves Hi waits, was Dustin Dustin?

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Speaker 1: Dustin's met you, Rachel Peter? What was he supposed to

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Speaker 1: be our one of our bachelor's for the live show?

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Speaker 1: Were you supposed to be a bachelor for the live show? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Yeah he was. I don't even know. Yeah, we'll tell

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Speaker 1: him to keep next You're in February reserved. I'll keep

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Speaker 1: next February reserved because they're coming back to you, all right,

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Speaker 1: says Okay, where's Kelly? Kelly's still asleeping? What time is it?

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Speaker 1: What y'all do? Last night? We had a good night

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Speaker 1: and sent some fun. We had like a dance party.

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Speaker 1: Because have you seen like these DJs that have been

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Speaker 1: Not his? No, we're watching Griffin and uh I think

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Speaker 1: But um, I know Blake he's like he's doing. I've

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Speaker 1: I have so much free time, you know, I might

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Speaker 1: as well do something else. So what would be your style?

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Speaker 1: Like your your your type of music that you would do?

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Speaker 1: Tropical house? So you know you ever heard of Kigo? Yes? Okay?

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Speaker 1: So like his kind of music is like the music

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Speaker 1: like that exact vibe, like a lot of like piano

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Speaker 1: Did you know that there's like a legit DJ school? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: for one in La And all this stuff is said

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Speaker 1: all the equipment. So, oh you're serious. I mean, why

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna ask you off the bat, have you

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Speaker 1: changed your stance on coronavirus? H are you talking about? Like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: TMZ thing. Yes, yeah, yeah, I can yeah, fully change

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Speaker 1: my stance. That was before everything I did. I used

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Speaker 1: to think that, Yeah, it was just kind of like

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Speaker 1: an overblown thing, like unwarranted fear. Um, obviously it is not.

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Speaker 1: I was one billion percent wrong, And yeah, I apologize

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Speaker 1: for those comments. Yeah, we'll call this the Redemption podcast.

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Speaker 1: You don't want to give you a chance to clear

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Speaker 1: things up. I don't know what I was thinking when

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Speaker 1: haven't been, I promise you guy's been quarantining in social

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Speaker 1: so we're all looking at each other. But Peter is quarantining. Um.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you miss at the top of this,

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Speaker 1: but he is quarantining where and good old shytown Chicago

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Speaker 1: with with with good old chop Chop Kelly and Dustin

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Speaker 1: goods Chop Chop. That's a that's what that's the nickname

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Speaker 1: I've given Kelly. That's like on the last on her

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Speaker 1: last episode in Peru, She's like, Chop Chop, give me

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Speaker 1: the road. And so now I just call her chop Chop. Oh, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: cute little nickname, a little pet name. So I was

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Speaker 1: But that's okay, Kelly, that's okay. I'm going to send

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Speaker 1: a text Darren because because we've always been Kelly fans.

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Speaker 1: So you know, you got a friend in us on

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Speaker 1: this podcast. That's my sister in the law. Yeah, that's right, yep, exactly.

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Speaker 1: So my question is we saw the TMZ photos come out. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So I guess my question is when you decided to

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Speaker 1: to do the river walk, which is like this gorgeous

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Speaker 1: like well, someone just got a picture and we're like no,

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Speaker 1: and then whatever, you know, Peter, people are always watching.

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Speaker 1: It was just us And at that point that river

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Speaker 1: So yeah, because of you guys. Honestly, you brought so

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Speaker 1: much attention to the riverwalk they close it down. So

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Speaker 1: inquiring minds what to know? How did you end up

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Speaker 1: quarantining at Kelly's take us back? Okay? Yeah? Um, so

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Speaker 1: I keep saying, just with Kelly, Night's been like very

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Speaker 1: serendipitous with just everything's kind of happened from the very beginning.

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Speaker 1: How we met before the show. Um, I don't know

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Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl. That was crazy, just a brief

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Speaker 1: through some mutual friends who ran inched each other. A

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Speaker 1: She's always been very supportive of me, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I've tried my best to be supportive of her. Some

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Speaker 1: stuff ended up happening with her family, some slight serious

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Speaker 1: in a just a sad place, a rough place, and

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Speaker 1: just have their own opinions and be passionate about it

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00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: and to kind of reflecting on it. It It almost like

424
00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,920
Speaker 1: just made me even more proud of my mom that,

425
00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,919
Speaker 1: you know, she you know, obviously is very outspoken and

426
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,840
Speaker 1: we'll speak her mind. And you know, being on live TV,

427
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,840
Speaker 1: being in that pressure situation and having all this pressure

428
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,040
Speaker 1: to kind of conform to like us maybe a possibly

429
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:19,359
Speaker 1: a certain narrative. The fact that she didn't and doing

430
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,120
Speaker 1: that out of like her love for me is such

431
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 1: a beautiful thing. Um, you know, delivery aside, Like that's

432
00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:26,399
Speaker 1: something nice, respect the hell out of my mom for

433
00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,240
Speaker 1: and something I wish I could be a little bit

434
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,359
Speaker 1: more like her in regards to just like putting your

435
00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,679
Speaker 1: foot down and just like you know, speaking you know,

436
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:37,600
Speaker 1: you you're too, heart So we're doing really good. Um,

437
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: we have that relationship where you know, we come in

438
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,439
Speaker 1: and we give each other a hug and nothing is

439
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,720
Speaker 1: gonna nothing is going to get in the way of

440
00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:47,400
Speaker 1: that and it's all good. We'll always have each other's back.

441
00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 1: You know, we're family, and you know, those are the

442
00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,879
Speaker 1: closest people to me and very lucky to have that

443
00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:57,040
Speaker 1: kind of relationship, you know. I I'm glad that you

444
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,639
Speaker 1: guys are doing okay. I never had a doubt it

445
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 1: you wouldn't be fine. I think things just needed to

446
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:06,520
Speaker 1: cool down. I think that you know, it's not to me.

447
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:11,520
Speaker 1: It was a cultural thing, which I understood. And yeah,

448
00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:15,280
Speaker 1: and that's that's just in general. Who watches the show.

449
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: They don't understand things. I agree, And I think, like

450
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:21,080
Speaker 1: you said, your mom agrees the delivery wasn't right, but

451
00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: I understood the passion and the intention behind it. Um.

452
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, I've reached out to your mom. I talked

453
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:32,600
Speaker 1: to your mom through DHIM, so I definitely understand it.

454
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: I too have a question, Yeah, from what your mom

455
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: said at the finale, do you still think that mother

456
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:51,199
Speaker 1: knows best? And and you know, um, we can go

457
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: into it you guys want, But you know, the next

458
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,239
Speaker 1: two days with Madison and I, you know, we had

459
00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000
Speaker 1: a lot of conversations and at the end of the day,

460
00:22:58,000 --> 00:22:59,760
Speaker 1: at the end of that second day, we essentially we're

461
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,879
Speaker 1: just proving my mom right and you know, I've always

462
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,600
Speaker 1: heard that, Yeah, Mom's no best and you know the

463
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: reason that SAME's out there and I think they do.

464
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 1: I do have one main question. I mean, as you know,

465
00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:15,000
Speaker 1: we did get Hannah AND's take during the finale, the

466
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 1: one question I have, and so I told Hannah, Hannah

467
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,280
Speaker 1: and this too. Like watching that back, obviously I can

468
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: empathize with her and relate to her because I went

469
00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: through something so similar. I want to know and this

470
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: is one thing that and I told her this. I

471
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,720
Speaker 1: don't think when I was broken up with on TV

472
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 1: and went through it all like I wasn't able to

473
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,040
Speaker 1: process it with the cameras there. I was so blindsided

474
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,359
Speaker 1: and just I really blacked out, like I legit, did

475
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: not know what to say. And in her case, it

476
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 1: seemed like she was much more vocal to you. She

477
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: had a lot more to say to you as I

478
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,199
Speaker 1: just hid in the bathroom and cried. But my question

479
00:23:52,280 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 1: for you, and this is something that I had wanted

480
00:23:54,840 --> 00:23:57,520
Speaker 1: to ask Ari during my or his after the final roles,

481
00:23:57,520 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: and I just never did. When was the moment that

482
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,239
Speaker 1: it changed for you? Because during the proposal and that

483
00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: day and we even't talked to Neil Lane seeing you,

484
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:10,080
Speaker 1: you looked so happy, so excited, you were kissing the ring.

485
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,720
Speaker 1: You just seemed like complete one eighty from what we

486
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 1: saw go down. And so when was that one moment

487
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:19,320
Speaker 1: for you where things clinton You're like, this relationship isn't

488
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:22,040
Speaker 1: going to work out and I have to now end

489
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:29,480
Speaker 1: things with my fiance. It was, man, that was just

490
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,480
Speaker 1: like that was the absolutely, like I keep saying, that

491
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: is the hardest week of my life. And I remember, yeah,

492
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,000
Speaker 1: that interaction I had, you know with Neil Lane before

493
00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:42,880
Speaker 1: that had happened. I remember, you know that their production

494
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: was all setting up to film, and that was in

495
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: my hotel room and I was like outside in the

496
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 1: living room area, and before that happened, like I like

497
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: I made an excuse to go into my room and

498
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,159
Speaker 1: just get away from everyone for a second and just

499
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,920
Speaker 1: like close the door and just like really sat down

500
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: and was like because I was just struggling like no

501
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:02,160
Speaker 1: other see regards like what had happened with Madison and

502
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: seeing if I could actually do this like the heartbreak

503
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: that I was feeling. Could I actually pull myself together?

504
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:08,960
Speaker 1: Is it something that I truly felt like I should

505
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: be doing? And I remember sitting there thinking that was

506
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: like my last chance to maybe go a different direction.

507
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,280
Speaker 1: And I just sat there probably twenty minutes just in

508
00:25:17,320 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: my own head, like really, like what do I do?

509
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:24,040
Speaker 1: What do I do? Just so confused. And I'm the

510
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 1: reason I bring that up is just like this stuff

511
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: like I'll just be so honest, like I'm not obviously

512
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:33,719
Speaker 1: proud of it, but these questions, you know, began probably

513
00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 1: even before I even propose, and I know, looking back

514
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: on it now, that should have been like a clear

515
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 1: sign to me. But I did know that I love

516
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:45,240
Speaker 1: Hannah hann I did know that I felt heartbreak in

517
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:46,840
Speaker 1: the past and then I could get over it. I

518
00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: would get over it. And did I want to possibly

519
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 1: let this temporary pain that, yeah, I can't have time

520
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 1: to process this right now like a normal relationship and

521
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,640
Speaker 1: grieve it. Do I want to let this possibly take

522
00:25:56,680 --> 00:25:59,239
Speaker 1: away something or prevent me from getting into something so

523
00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,159
Speaker 1: beautiful down the road for the rest of my life.

524
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,720
Speaker 1: I made the decision to go forward, and I guess,

525
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, kind of convinced myself that I was ready

526
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,199
Speaker 1: to propose to Hannahan. And again, I'm not proud of that,

527
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: but that's the truth. And I kept just holding on

528
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: to the love that I had for her and just

529
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: what the potential and then I guess after the show's over, now,

530
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: you know, we would do happy couples. And you know

531
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: I got to see her, you know, three or four times,

532
00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: and during those visits, you know, I had I love

533
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: like I love Hannah, and I truly I'm such a

534
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,959
Speaker 1: big fan of Hannahan and I always will be. UM.

535
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 1: We've always had a great time together. I just think that,

536
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: slowly but sure, that I just noticed that maybe we

537
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,159
Speaker 1: weren't as compatible as I thought we were. And I

538
00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: say that in regards possibly just like the two of

539
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: us challenging each other in a relationship, I just didn't

540
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,200
Speaker 1: I didn't necessarily feel it as much as I thought

541
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 1: I was going to UM in those next couple of meetings,

542
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: and listen, a little bit of it too was unresolved

543
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: feelings for you know, for Madison, and that was the

544
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: stuff that I struggled with like no other. So as

545
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,880
Speaker 1: crazy of an answer, you know, obviously it started even

546
00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: before UM. And that's not easy to admit, but that's

547
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:15,080
Speaker 1: the truth. And so I lied. Now I have questions.

548
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 1: I knew you were going to rage. Well, I I'm

549
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 1: listening to you talk. Do you feel that you were

550
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:27,919
Speaker 1: pressured into proposing to Hannah An ask, yeah, I I

551
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: think it was just my own self impost pressure. I

552
00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 1: really do think that, Like I, yeah, I did. I

553
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,919
Speaker 1: didn't need to come out of this. Was that no,

554
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,880
Speaker 1: go ahead? Sorry? I didn't like need to go into

555
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 1: the show and like come out of engage and like

556
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: if I don't like it really wasn't like that, But

557
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:46,840
Speaker 1: I don't know at that at the end there, I

558
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: just I saw such like a I really did. I

559
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 1: saw all the potential in the world for an amazing relationship.

560
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,120
Speaker 1: I had never ever felt, ever felt the love from

561
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,320
Speaker 1: someone like Hannah and had showed me ever in my

562
00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: entire life, and that was one of the biggest things

563
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: that I was looking for coming into this process, and

564
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,240
Speaker 1: she showered that on me like no other similarly to

565
00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 1: how I've felt like I've given that to women in

566
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,399
Speaker 1: the past, it haven't you know, haven't reciprocated to me.

567
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: I finally found that, and I was like, I can't.

568
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,719
Speaker 1: I can't lose this girl. Like this girl is like

569
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 1: she's just amazing in every way, She's perfect in every way.

570
00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:18,639
Speaker 1: It almost seems like too good to be true. But

571
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: that's just who Hannah Anne is. And so I put

572
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: a lot of pressure on myself. I mean, I'm a

573
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: little bit from the show. Yeah sure I can, Yeah,

574
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:31,720
Speaker 1: I can admit that, and um, yeah, it's just it's

575
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 1: a tough tough week for me. So Peter, that last week,

576
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 1: especially that last day, then do you think, like, did

577
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 1: it ever cross your mind to just say, you know,

578
00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: I still love Hannah Anne, even though I am heartbroken

579
00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: from Madison leaving. But instead of committing and you know,

580
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 1: getting down on one knee and giving her that ring,

581
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: did it ever cross your mind to just say, like, hey,

582
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: let's stay together, Let's see where this goes. Let's not

583
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 1: put the pressure of an engagement on this relationship, but

584
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: I still want to see where are real relationship can go.

585
00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 1: It did. It totally did. And my thought process and

586
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: that just was I felt a little bit of it,

587
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, and Grant looking back hand and probably would have,

588
00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: you know, wish that I would have done that, But

589
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 1: in the moment, I was thinking, you know, it might

590
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 1: just be I was trying to put myself in hand

591
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: and shoes and like if someone said that to me,

592
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: like it would obviously pull me back and take a

593
00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 1: couple of steps back now thinking how serious you actually

594
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,600
Speaker 1: were in the relationship. And you know, a lot of

595
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 1: this show too, it's like it's a beautiful, beautiful moment

596
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,040
Speaker 1: that you two can share together and remember for the

597
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 1: rest of your lives. And while yes, I can admit

598
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,720
Speaker 1: that I was heartbroken and I was dealing with a

599
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:38,720
Speaker 1: lot of stuff at that time, again I kept looking

600
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: to what could be with us, and I didn't want

601
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: to possibly take a beautiful moment that we could look

602
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: back on and I'd be like so happy that I

603
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 1: did do it and we have it documented now, you know,

604
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,920
Speaker 1: for for the rest of our lives. Like that was

605
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 1: a big reason why I wanted to do the show, was,

606
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, to hopefully have my story documented that I

607
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: could pass down, you know, my kids and my grandkids

608
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: and they could all see it. And again that's probably

609
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: the best thinking, but that's what I was going through

610
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: my head. So when we had Hannah Ann on the show,

611
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,280
Speaker 1: she even like she gave her side and her how

612
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: it affected her and everything. And one of the things

613
00:30:13,400 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: that she said that really stood out to us was

614
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: that when your season started, that's when you started to

615
00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,720
Speaker 1: question things. Maybe you were already questioning them internally, but

616
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: you started to say things to her that made her

617
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: feel like, Okay, maybe we aren't where I thought we were.

618
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: So did making the season back because like first first

619
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: maybe first episode you had your date with Madison. I

620
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 1: think they structure was different. So watching that first date,

621
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,560
Speaker 1: is that when you started to say, oh, I need

622
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: to actually start telling her how I feel. Is that

623
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,480
Speaker 1: when it started for you? Because then, and this is

624
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 1: the follow up, the second episode was with Hannah Brown,

625
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: and then she made that comment on stage, Oh, you

626
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: felt like you need a closure with Hannah Brown, right,

627
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 1: So I obviously was, you know, dealing with it internally,

628
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 1: um in regards to just my feelings still from Madison

629
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: at that point, and I hadn't really vocalized that to her. Obviously.

630
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: I when when I saw the first episode, it made

631
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: it tough for me, It really didn't. Obviously, it was

632
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: like a really great memory for me. It was a

633
00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: great first, you know, one on one date with Madison.

634
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: And that was again the first time that I I opened

635
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 1: up to Hannah and about kind of where where I

636
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: was struggling. And I struggled with that so much because

637
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 1: that's the last thing I want to be putting on her.

638
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: Is Yeah, She's like, you know, she's my person now,

639
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,520
Speaker 1: and you should feel comfortable leaning on that person and

640
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 1: sharing anything with them and you know, venting to them.

641
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: But it's like that's so inappropriate and so weird and

642
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: not what she wants to hear, especially them being the

643
00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: final two in the end. So I like, I was like,

644
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: how do I go about this the right way? Um?

645
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 1: But then I just continued to open up and really

646
00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: let her know, like where I was struggling and why

647
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:50,719
Speaker 1: I felt what I felt. I just felt like I

648
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 1: needed to tell her that and she needed to know.

649
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 1: And M And then in regards to like you know,

650
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: with Hannah Brown, M listen on stage when she made

651
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: those comments, but and she she brought up Yeah, we

652
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: brought up the closure with Hannah Brown. True. What that

653
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: was in reference to though, was so we had watched

654
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: the first two episodes, I think, like in December we

655
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: had gone like the copy before obviously it all aired,

656
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 1: and we were watching it at our first happy Couple weekend,

657
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: and I guess Hannah Brown had been given the copy too,

658
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: says she watched it. And then Hannah Brown had reached

659
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 1: out to me on Instagram and direct message me and

660
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: said that, hey, like I had just seen the first

661
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,479
Speaker 1: episode that was really rough, tough to watch, like, you know, like,

662
00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: how are you doing with all that? Like I don't

663
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: know how I feel about it? And so then when

664
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: I got that, that's when I went to Hannah Ann

665
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:46,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, listen, Hannah Brown had reached

666
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: out to me. I want to see if you're comfortable

667
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: with me like continuing to talk and possibly give her closure,

668
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,960
Speaker 1: give me closure and all this because of how everything ended,

669
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:55,560
Speaker 1: would you be okay with that? And she, you know,

670
00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:00,040
Speaker 1: obviously was a little like uneasy about it, understandably, and

671
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: but finally I was like, listen as long just don't

672
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 1: see you in person, but yeah, you can you guys

673
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:06,239
Speaker 1: can talk about it and and you know, handle all

674
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 1: that stuff. So is it okay? Thanks? And then you know,

675
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 1: Hannah and I, Hannah Brown and I just continue to

676
00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: talk through things. And she had been getting some like

677
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: negative reactions from the you know, from the first episode

678
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 1: in the second one when I actually started airing too,

679
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 1: and so we're just being supportive of each other. I've

680
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: always been, you know, that way for Hannah Brown as

681
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 1: she's been for me. And that's what that was. In

682
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: regards to what kind of closure in that scenario were

683
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: you looking for? Because it seems like the way that

684
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,040
Speaker 1: you guys left it on the show when you know

685
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: she was in your dressing room and who has had

686
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: that moment, it seems like it ended there. So what

687
00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 1: kind of closure for me as a viewer? Like what

688
00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: was missing? Like what did you both still need? I guess, well,

689
00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: I know you can't speak for Hannah Brown, but what

690
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:54,280
Speaker 1: did you need in that instance? Right? Ums? And when

691
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:56,800
Speaker 1: I when I like, I guess when I say closure, um,

692
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 1: I just like I had brought that word up to

693
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: Hannah and just because Hannah Brown was expressing to me

694
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 1: that she didn't feel good about watching the episode, So

695
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: like for me, I was, you know, I was, I

696
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 1: was moved on and I really was, and I was,

697
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:13,880
Speaker 1: you know, at the end of the show, I kept thinking,

698
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: to be honest, I kept thinking, they're gonna bring Hanah

699
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:17,799
Speaker 1: Brown at the finale and they were going to somehow sure,

700
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: why not possibly see you know what I would do?

701
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: But I really was like I had had the closure

702
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,799
Speaker 1: that I needed. Was it tough to watch absolutely, but

703
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 1: closure wasn't one hundred. It wasn't necessarily for me. Um.

704
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: But back to that first episode and that whole date. Honestly, Um,

705
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: we just ran out of time and we had to

706
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: go to a night portion of the date later on,

707
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: and a conversation had to get wrapped up. It wasn't

708
00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: necessarily in our doing. We were told we had to,

709
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: we had to finish it, and and so kind of

710
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 1: left just like it was a little bit weird and

711
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: odd because here we are, and we're obviously two people

712
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: that have had strong feelings for each other in the past,

713
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: and we're reminiscing on that and not knowing what to do.

714
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I told people like in that it didn't get aired,

715
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 1: but I told her, like, I'll leave the show right now.

716
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: I got to the Bachelor if like, if there's something

717
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:10,000
Speaker 1: you wanted pursue, and um, you know, you go from

718
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: that and you have that serious, serious conversation and then

719
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: it literally just was like, all right, guys, it, time's up.

720
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: We have to we have to wrap this. And so

721
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: we gave each other a hug and um and just

722
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: like wish each other well, and then I left and

723
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: that's how it ended. It was like not the most

724
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:25,759
Speaker 1: ideal way to end something like that. Yeah, well in

725
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: that on the show too, And what we saw is

726
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: that basically when Hannah Hannah b said that, you know,

727
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,439
Speaker 1: I single out the end of this talk to her.

728
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: So since then, I mean, obviously we don't know what's

729
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 1: going on with her and Tyler and whatnot, but I mean,

730
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: does that offer soul stand ord? Have you even heard

731
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:44,640
Speaker 1: from her to this day? We've talked since I did

732
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,360
Speaker 1: get her number from when she started DM and me

733
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: on Instagram, and you know, we've just been very very

734
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 1: supportive of each other. I saw her at Dylan and

735
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: Hannah's engagement party and just really just really cordial and um,

736
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: you know, there's no love lost there at all. And um,

737
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: she's just been someone that I've been able to lean

738
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,359
Speaker 1: on a lot, and she's like literally always been there

739
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,880
Speaker 1: for me. Does any advice I needed? Just event like,

740
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: she's been someone that I've been able to go to

741
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: and is a really safe space and very grateful for

742
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 1: her doing that for me. But there's nothing there between

743
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: the two of you. No, nothing, nothing romantically as you know,

744
00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: pursuing each other. Um no, great, So Madison, Wait are

745
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: you done with Hannah Anne. Yes, so yeah, we can

746
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:34,600
Speaker 1: I think of rocking and rolling. Well, oh wait, I

747
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: guess I will ask you. Have you spoken to Hannah

748
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: and since the finale? Um? Not since the finale? So

749
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: just when? When? When the breakup day happened? Um? You know,

750
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: she obviously left and then later that day it was

751
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,880
Speaker 1: you know, I just sent her a long text was

752
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 1: kind of obviously just apologizing again, just saying essentially that

753
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: I'll always me and my family will always be there

754
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 1: for her no matter what. And I sent it's a

755
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: long text to the you know, her family as well.

756
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: We had a group text change going then heard back

757
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: from anyone. I called Hnnahn once later that day. Obviously

758
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:05,759
Speaker 1: she didn't you know, she didn't pick her up, she

759
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: didn't really want to talk to me, and um, yeah,

760
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,880
Speaker 1: so then I saw her Afar. I talked with her

761
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 1: dad a couple of times. He had called me on

762
00:37:12,840 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: two occasions leading up to Afar, just kind of trying

763
00:37:16,080 --> 00:37:18,920
Speaker 1: to ask about, um, where my head was at and

764
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: what possibly might happen, what he could expect, just as

765
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, protection protecting his daughter, which I understood, um,

766
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 1: and I tried to give him as much as I

767
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:29,680
Speaker 1: could but obviously contray. Actually I wasn't necessary allowed to

768
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,959
Speaker 1: do so much, so that was that was tough for me. Um.

769
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 1: But I haven't talked to Hannah and after Yeah, and

770
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: I mean I guess I get that and rightfully so

771
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: like her new brand now too is you know, she

772
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: stood up to you and you know, found her voice

773
00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: and you know, moved on from that. So I think

774
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: it will you know, be backtracking exactly, you know, that's no,

775
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: I believe me. I want her to just thrive and

776
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: just absolutely have the most amazing, beautiful life ever find

777
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 1: her person, and I truly like, I love that girl.

778
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 1: I always will and no matter how she feels about me,

779
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,279
Speaker 1: m I'll always always want the best herd Well is

780
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: Kelly friends with Hannah Anne and Madison. She Yeah, she is,

781
00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,200
Speaker 1: Um was she and maybe she's not now seeing the

782
00:38:15,239 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: new circumstances. No, Kelly and Hannah Anna talked and they're

783
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,839
Speaker 1: they're they're very yeah, Corgil, it's been very friendly. Um,

784
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 1: you know she's uh, Hannah Anne's been you know, I

785
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: guess understanding of everything from what I've heard, and I

786
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 1: know they have talked. I don't know about with Madison,

787
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 1: but I do know that Hannah, Anne and Kelly are

788
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,840
Speaker 1: good good. I like to hear that. I want to know.

789
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:39,759
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously we don't know what's going on with

790
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: filming future seasons because of this whole coronavirus going on.

791
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 1: But like, if Hannah Anne or Madison or any of

792
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 1: the other girls like Kelly or I'm sorry Kelsey for

793
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 1: that matter, where to go on paradise or potentially become

794
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 1: a Bouchhart in the future, would that be weird for you?

795
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 1: Or are you at the point where you do truly

796
00:38:57,880 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 1: wish them the best and you're just like you know

797
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: what you do, I promise, like I really am at

798
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 1: that point. I still obviously, like I know how I

799
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: felt about them just a few weeks ago, a few

800
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 1: months ago, And I say, I've said that before, like

801
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: I was, I asked that question from Chris Hannah Brown

802
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: season Like it's the same for them. I will always

803
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 1: have love in my heart for them, Like they are

804
00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,280
Speaker 1: two very important people to me that through two months

805
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: we had an amazing, amazing experience together in relationship and um,

806
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:31,760
Speaker 1: but I trust me, like I would that be weird

807
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: obviously seeing them probably with someone else, Yeah, I think so,

808
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 1: But I really, I just want them to be happy

809
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 1: and UM just want the best. I think it would

810
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 1: be weird if it depending on who it was, right Like,

811
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:46,680
Speaker 1: if you saw them with another Batter Nation person, it

812
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: would be like whoa. If it was yeah, it's one

813
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: of the guys I think from like Hannah Brown season,

814
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: it might be a little bit stranger. But I can't

815
00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,879
Speaker 1: you know right then, you'd be pot kettle. Look look

816
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: where you are right now. You know exactly exactly, And

817
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to be hypocrite all um, Okay, Madison,

818
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: So where to even start with this? I will preface

819
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 1: this by saying I was so pro Matt, you and

820
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: Madison together until you all had the second date and

821
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 1: she spoke about her faith. Totally fine, I'm a Christian

822
00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: as well. And then I guess it was the next

823
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: week where then she told you she gave you the ultimatum,

824
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: call it which you want, it's what it was, but

825
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 1: didn't but then didn't tell you that she was saving

826
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 1: herself for marriage. Okay, So that's when things started to

827
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: change to me, because things don't make sense, and I think,

828
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: and my hope is to get some clarity here because

829
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: what you guys say, and by that I mean you

830
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:59,799
Speaker 1: and Madison based on what she does or you do

831
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: doesn't add up and doesn't make like they don't match up.

832
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: Your words don't match up with your actions. And I

833
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: think that's where I get confused. So then I have

834
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 1: to deduce, like logically, try to figure out, Okay, well,

835
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,799
Speaker 1: then this is what makes sense based on actions, right,

836
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:19,400
Speaker 1: Actions speak louder than words. So I'm trying, maybe Becca,

837
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,279
Speaker 1: you go in because I'm trying to figure out where

838
00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: I want to start with this with this line of

839
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,399
Speaker 1: questioning to try to understand your relationship with Madison. Well,

840
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: and I think this is a good point. You use

841
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,120
Speaker 1: the word ultimatum Rachel and Peter. When she threw that

842
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 1: out there, you said, you know, I agree to disagree

843
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: with you. We haven't had a conversation with you, and

844
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: we haven't had one with Madison yet. I think when

845
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: that episode aired, I believe that week we probably had

846
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: talked to Chris Harrison or something, and he obviously gave

847
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,879
Speaker 1: his take. But it's not you or Madison. And so

848
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,919
Speaker 1: you felt like it wasn't an ultimatum. But what makes

849
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:57,359
Speaker 1: you say that? Just because if I were to say that,

850
00:41:57,520 --> 00:41:59,960
Speaker 1: and I feel like I would just be a hypocrite

851
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,200
Speaker 1: because the very first night of the entire you know,

852
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: the show, that's opening night in the Mansion. In my

853
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 1: opening toast to all the women, I asked them to please,

854
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: whatever is on your heart, always feel comfortable sharing that

855
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: with me. Don't hold back, whether it's good, bad, ugly.

856
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,879
Speaker 1: You think it's going to hurt my feelings, piss me off,

857
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,200
Speaker 1: or make me happy, or you're feeling it for me. Please,

858
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 1: I want this to be an open connection where you

859
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: can feel comfortable. And so yeah, it was later, way

860
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: later on in the whole journey there, but all that

861
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,839
Speaker 1: Madison was doing, she wasn't telling me you have to

862
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: do this or this. She simply had something on her

863
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: heart that she felt I should know. We were in

864
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: a relationship, and in my opinion, that's completely acceptable for

865
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: someone to express how they're feeling. And if I were

866
00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: to do something, it would make it really difficult for

867
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:50,400
Speaker 1: them to continue and they'd possibly have to reevaluate. She

868
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:52,279
Speaker 1: was never making a you have to do this or that.

869
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: She said, and this is how I'm going to feel.

870
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:55,839
Speaker 1: I feel like you should know this. It's important because

871
00:42:55,880 --> 00:43:00,879
Speaker 1: we are dating. If you do this then this, right,

872
00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 1: that's an ultimatum. You can call it whatever you want.

873
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,799
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean that she can't express it to you,

874
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 1: like to express how she's feeling, you know. And I

875
00:43:10,840 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: don't want to argue whether it is an ultimatum or

876
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: it isn't. My issue more so is did you feel

877
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: a certain way knowing that you know you and Madison

878
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: have this relationship. You constantly defended her with your family,

879
00:43:24,719 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: saying you don't know Madison like I do. So obviously,

880
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,400
Speaker 1: you guys shared a lot that we didn't get to see,

881
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: and we didn't really see the development of your relationship.

882
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 1: So did it not bother you that she could be

883
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:41,400
Speaker 1: so upfront about everything? Except that? No, that did. And

884
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: I asked her, you know, why she didn't express that

885
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: stuff to me earlier on why she waited so long?

886
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: And I do think that it would have probably made

887
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: a difference in possing my actions moving forward. I can't

888
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:55,839
Speaker 1: say for sure, because I truly wanted to stay so

889
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 1: present and I'm intentional with each of the other two

890
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: relationships going forward and that week, but yeah, I question that,

891
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: and her response to me was and I can I

892
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: can understand it is the timing of our relationship started

893
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,280
Speaker 1: off with the first date. We were the very first

894
00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,360
Speaker 1: one on one. Maybe not something you bring up on

895
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: the very first date when you okay, so it wasn't

896
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 1: going to happen there group dates during the daytime, it

897
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. You're having a fun time doing something in

898
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 1: the night portions if you do see the person, because

899
00:44:31,719 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: it's not always guaranteed it's a quick maybe ten minutes,

900
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily something super super allowable to have like

901
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 1: a really deep important conversation. I agree as there. The

902
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 1: next date wasn't the one on one, was in Peru

903
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 1: and we had an amazing part of the day and

904
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: then the night portion. She did open up a lot

905
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,799
Speaker 1: to me about stuff and her faith, and she could

906
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: have brought it up there. I could have seen that

907
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: was the one opportunity for her to do it if

908
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: she wanted to. I think I maybe And she told

909
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 1: me if she's like, I wasn't expecting you to kind

910
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: of like have a conversation and go way. When I

911
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: expressed her that I was falling in love with her,

912
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I think I might might have thrown her off a

913
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: little bit in regards what she fully wanted to get out.

914
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,320
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe not, and then it just to be honest,

915
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:12,359
Speaker 1: it's like you look for the times where it could

916
00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 1: have been really appropriate because we don't get time off

917
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,719
Speaker 1: camera for her to have told me it. It was

918
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,359
Speaker 1: kind of difficult just how the timing worked out. Do

919
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 1: you think religion is a difficult conversation to discuss with

920
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 1: someone when you don't know what their belief is? Yeah, exactly,

921
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: I do too. And when she had that second date

922
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:34,799
Speaker 1: with you, I thought, Wow, good for her. You know,

923
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,720
Speaker 1: she's like, this is what I believe, this is my faith,

924
00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 1: this is what I want out of a husband, And

925
00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 1: to me, it was the golden opportunity to express all

926
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: of it. And that's why I'm very curious as to

927
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: what you thought about that, because I thought, well, why

928
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: would you hold that back? You have admitted that it

929
00:45:53,840 --> 00:45:57,560
Speaker 1: probably would have affected your decision moving forward. You don't

930
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: know for sure, because hindsight we just don't know, but

931
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: it would have made you kind of go, huh, okay,

932
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:08,640
Speaker 1: that's that's I wasn't expecting that, especially since you were

933
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,960
Speaker 1: you said you wanted the women to be open from

934
00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: night one, and you gave that speech to the women

935
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:17,080
Speaker 1: that first night you also were very honest with them.

936
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: You're a very open person, intimate, believe in having that

937
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:25,959
Speaker 1: intimacy with your significant other, and you don't you don't

938
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:27,640
Speaker 1: hold back from that. I mean, you're in front of

939
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: your family. So I think my question was when that

940
00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 1: when she said when she didn't tell you? But then

941
00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:40,239
Speaker 1: as from the audience, we knew at that point that

942
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: she was saving herself for marriage. I just didn't think

943
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:48,399
Speaker 1: that it was fair to go on this season with

944
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 1: a man who has expressed is sexual, has expressed that

945
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 1: intimacy is important to him. So it's not like you're

946
00:46:56,480 --> 00:47:00,960
Speaker 1: going on Sean Lowe season, right, He's going on your season. Okay,

947
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 1: Peter sex at all in Bill four times, blah bla

948
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah. It's just saying that's how

949
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: you were, that's how you were build So America, I

950
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 1: get it. Yeah, So she comes on your season knowing

951
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,280
Speaker 1: that she wants to save yourself, knowing that you're this person.

952
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: Did you ever question yourself? Why would you come on

953
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:20,000
Speaker 1: my season knowing that I'm this way, only to possibly

954
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: eliminate yourself for that reason? Definitely question. It brought up

955
00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: a lot of questions to her in kind of reference

956
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:32,839
Speaker 1: to that, and I think to kind of start with,

957
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:35,480
Speaker 1: you know, I remember asking her, like, so, why did

958
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: you because I've heard a lot of people saying, you know,

959
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: you you most likely knew Peter and like what he

960
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,319
Speaker 1: kind of was about and the person he was and

961
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: what he was comfortable with, what he wasn't comfortable with doing.

962
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: Why did you feel like that would be the right

963
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 1: person to go on the Bachelor for it? And you

964
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,520
Speaker 1: know she came back and she wasn't that just it

965
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 1: is annoying to her to hear because she's never been

966
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: someone that wanted to judge, Like I truly don't feel

967
00:47:57,680 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: like Madison is a judgmental person, like at all. She

968
00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: can be very you know, prideful, and that's like a

969
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: great quality too, but she it's not someone that I

970
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: think is is a huge judger. And um, you know

971
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: she said she did listen, I didn't want to just

972
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: because of what your past was, Like, I'm not going

973
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 1: to judge you at all and that hold anything against you,

974
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: Like I if this was going to work for us,

975
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 1: let's take from that point on moving forward of of

976
00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, any possible judgment if you wanted to use

977
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: she had. You know, she actually had been someone that

978
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:31,440
Speaker 1: had been I guess nominated by like a family friend

979
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: to come on the show, and it wasn't necessarily her

980
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,920
Speaker 1: at first, and she didn't know she wanted to do it,

981
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:37,279
Speaker 1: and she thought about it a lot and kind of

982
00:48:37,360 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: let the process run and then until she had to

983
00:48:38,960 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: actually make a decision if this is something she wanted

984
00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: to do, and then she was. You know, from what

985
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:44,640
Speaker 1: she told me, it was something that she just decided,

986
00:48:44,680 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: like why not. You know this this could be a

987
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: you know, an amazing opportunity to go find someone. Why

988
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: not will work? I have no idea, but why not?

989
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 1: I think maybe a little bit of it, if I

990
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: had to guess, was her in the beginning thinking I

991
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 1: don't know if this is my person, but like, this

992
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:03,120
Speaker 1: could be a really cool opportunity. I'll be fair. But

993
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,279
Speaker 1: I do know that that quickly changed with her and

994
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: she quickly realized, no, this is someone that I really

995
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 1: actually am feeling something for. And again, I don't think

996
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: there's really anything wrong with that, because people that you

997
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: want to say, oh, I came on just for you,

998
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: and I knew I was in love with you from

999
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: the beginning. I don't know if I buy so her

1000
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: honesty with that is something I appreciated. Yeah, I'm not

1001
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: trying to like defend her too much in all this.

1002
00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 1: I'm just very curious. We haven't had an opportunity to

1003
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,600
Speaker 1: talk to her, So I'm just curious as to what

1004
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:37,319
Speaker 1: your thoughts were about that, because I totally agree with that.

1005
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 1: You have no idea at the beginning how it's going

1006
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 1: to be, and then you slowly start to see yourself fall,

1007
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: which is usually in most cases, and but then my

1008
00:49:48,560 --> 00:49:52,360
Speaker 1: thought is still, okay, So why couldn't you be fully

1009
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,840
Speaker 1: open about what is so important to you and what

1010
00:49:57,000 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: you so value. If you value it like that, why

1011
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: are you waiting until you know the thirteenth hour right

1012
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,360
Speaker 1: to finally say something? I wish? I get confused. I

1013
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,839
Speaker 1: do wish you would have I and I think I

1014
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: think maybe the fear might have been she would have

1015
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:16,719
Speaker 1: gone home, and she didn't want to go home for

1016
00:50:16,840 --> 00:50:19,759
Speaker 1: whatever reason that may be. That's it's, oh my god,

1017
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 1: if I tell him this, maybe I'll go home. Yeah,

1018
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: that's that's totally fair. Um. I she wouldn't have gone home,

1019
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:32,239
Speaker 1: but I could totally see her in that moment. Yeah,

1020
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:35,440
Speaker 1: having those thoughts. Do you think and this is something

1021
00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:39,319
Speaker 1: that we've talked about obviously without you and trying to

1022
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:42,080
Speaker 1: say like the what ifs, So say you get you

1023
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 1: got to that fantasy suite a week. Obviously, that week

1024
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 1: in itself was very different for your season because this

1025
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 1: was the one time all of the girls were still

1026
00:50:50,520 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 1: living together under the same roof during that very weird

1027
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:58,080
Speaker 1: intimate week. Had it gone differently, and I know you

1028
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:01,000
Speaker 1: don't necessarily have a say in the dates and who

1029
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,399
Speaker 1: goes win, but had Medicine gone first, had you spent

1030
00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:07,640
Speaker 1: that first overnight with her, maybe just talking, maybe just

1031
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: getting to know one another, and went on after that

1032
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: with the other two women, do you think anything would

1033
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,600
Speaker 1: have panned out differently? Do you think she still would

1034
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 1: have had that moment where she potentially was like, look,

1035
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:19,960
Speaker 1: I can't do this, I have to remove myself. Or

1036
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,160
Speaker 1: do you think that would not have taken place had

1037
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:26,920
Speaker 1: she gone first? Yeah, No, it would It wouldn't or

1038
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 1: it would have changed things that she would have gone first,

1039
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: and I would have known that obviously, we would have

1040
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 1: probably most likely I discussed that in the fantasy suite.

1041
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: Even look now, knowing what I know, if I would

1042
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,160
Speaker 1: have had a fantasy suite with her. You know, we

1043
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: wouldn't have spent the night with each other. We would

1044
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: have she would have been comfortable with talking with me,

1045
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: you know, for a couple of hours. But that's something

1046
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: also that you know she had mentioned me she is

1047
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: saving for marriage. Is just that kind of time just

1048
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 1: spent with you know, someone overnight, even with nothing physically happening,

1049
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 1: something I can totally respect. But yeah, if I, if

1050
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 1: I would have had her first, I would have a

1051
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,360
Speaker 1: little bit more knowledge about everything. And again, the hardest

1052
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 1: part for me was I always tried my best to

1053
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: be so intentional with each relationship and just get lost

1054
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: in that relationship. That's what I did from the day

1055
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 1: one till the very end. That's how I felt I

1056
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 1: could actually make this work for me. And but yeah,

1057
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: if you asked that question, yeah I think it would

1058
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: have been different. But if so, if that were the case,

1059
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: then and you know, you had Medicine's fantasy sweet night first,

1060
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 1: move on to the next two girls. I mean, because

1061
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: you yourself admitted when she asked you that night, you know, like,

1062
00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: have you been intimate with these two other women? And

1063
00:52:37,600 --> 00:52:40,560
Speaker 1: you and I will say, I think you handled that situation, yeah,

1064
00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 1: I did. Like, kudos to you for how you approached it,

1065
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:46,919
Speaker 1: because that's a really, really tough situation had like would

1066
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: would you have gone in and still been intimate with

1067
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: those girls because of you know, it's it's an important

1068
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: part to relationships, as you've said yourself, And so I

1069
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: don't under like I can't imagine you not having the

1070
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 1: same reaction in a moment and evening with the other

1071
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:09,080
Speaker 1: two girls. Like for me, it's like, if you want

1072
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:10,520
Speaker 1: it's going to be intentional. If you're going to be

1073
00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: intentional and put yourself in every single relationship right, well,

1074
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,320
Speaker 1: it's inevitable. And it's like you want to exhaust every

1075
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,359
Speaker 1: relationship till you get to the end if that's where

1076
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,000
Speaker 1: it needs, if that's what you need to do to

1077
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: get there, to figure out each relationship and what is

1078
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: truly best for you at the end of this, you

1079
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,000
Speaker 1: probably would have still had to do the same things.

1080
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: And so in my mind then it makes it tough

1081
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,719
Speaker 1: to see like had she gone first, yes, maybe you

1082
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: would have gone into the next two nights and the

1083
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,879
Speaker 1: next two dates with the other two women knowing how

1084
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 1: she would have felt. But at the end of the day,

1085
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: like things still probably would have taken place to I think,

1086
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:47,960
Speaker 1: like allow for her to still have that moment of

1087
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: being like, maybe I do need to remove myself. No,

1088
00:53:51,400 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: I think you're right. Yeah, I can't say for sure

1089
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: what I would have done. I guess I'll take that back.

1090
00:53:56,920 --> 00:54:00,480
Speaker 1: I do. I believe it possibly could have changed things. Definitely, Listen,

1091
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,360
Speaker 1: would have given it a lot more gravity if I

1092
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: would have known that stuff before. And listen, Peter, would

1093
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,280
Speaker 1: you have pulled a Colton and just ended the season

1094
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: and beent like I'm all in with this one girl. No,

1095
00:54:12,680 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say that, but I just again, it

1096
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,799
Speaker 1: would have just given it a lot more gravity the

1097
00:54:17,840 --> 00:54:21,799
Speaker 1: whole situation. And but then what you guys are saying,

1098
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,440
Speaker 1: that's what I said as well, Like while I was,

1099
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: you know, on this show, like I wanted to be intentional.

1100
00:54:27,239 --> 00:54:29,080
Speaker 1: I wanted to get lost in that relationship and explore

1101
00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: everything I needed to. I've always felt, and I still feel,

1102
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,120
Speaker 1: like intimacy is a huge important part of relationship. I

1103
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:36,319
Speaker 1: have different views obviously than I see in regards to

1104
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:37,840
Speaker 1: that and what I'm saving it for not saving it for.

1105
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: And that's totally fine that we have those different views.

1106
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 1: But for me, I guess, like you sayah, hindsight, twine, twine,

1107
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:46,680
Speaker 1: We'll never know because I'll never be put in that

1108
00:54:46,719 --> 00:54:49,799
Speaker 1: situation again. She says that you're not compatible. She talks

1109
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: about you guys not be compatible. There's just too many differences.

1110
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,440
Speaker 1: You just have two different lifestyles, right. Whether she realized

1111
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 1: that with you, with talking to your family, that was

1112
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: the conclusion that she came to, and so she felt

1113
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,799
Speaker 1: it was best to self eliminate. I actually agreed with

1114
00:55:03,840 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: that decision. So then we see what happens move forward.

1115
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:11,000
Speaker 1: You engaged to Hannah Anne, you break up with Hannah Anne.

1116
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 1: Then the moment you break up with Hannah Anne, what

1117
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: is your thought? Is your thought? I can go pursue

1118
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: Madison or you did you reach out to her? Tell

1119
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:23,439
Speaker 1: the truth, because I've seen these rumors that apparently y'all

1120
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: have mutual friends and y'all were hanging out. So go ahead, Yeah, no,

1121
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: we So we do have a mutual friend that she

1122
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: had met on the first date. So one of my

1123
00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:36,560
Speaker 1: close friends from high school. She had met her on

1124
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: that first date of my parents dylarnual ceremony, and they

1125
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: had stayed close and connected. We would talk, you know,

1126
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: to that mutual friend. I guess both of us obviously

1127
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,759
Speaker 1: on our own, and you know she did. My friend

1128
00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:52,400
Speaker 1: did a good job of respecting each other's privacy and

1129
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: not like she wouldn't tell me anything that Madison was

1130
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: saying like she wouldn't. He was really respecting that. That's

1131
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: why I knew I could obviously trust her to do

1132
00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: the same. Um did I have like when the relationship

1133
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,440
Speaker 1: ended it with Hannah and and I have thoughts about

1134
00:56:04,960 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: possibly reaching out. I did, but I just feel like

1135
00:56:07,640 --> 00:56:09,879
Speaker 1: that that wasn't my place to do it. She had

1136
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: left me, I did not leave her, and if anything

1137
00:56:13,480 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: like that was ever going to happen, it was like

1138
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,840
Speaker 1: I just didn't see how it'd be right for me

1139
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 1: to go reach out her, like she'd just said no

1140
00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: to me once, and that's why I didn't. So prior

1141
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: to breaking up with Hannah, Anne, you you yourself had

1142
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,400
Speaker 1: no contact with Madison up until that point, correct, And

1143
00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: then afterwards then I guess I'm confused. And so we

1144
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: see Chris Harrison go to Madison bring Madison back to you,

1145
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 1: and you didn't expect to see her. So did you

1146
00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: have a conversation with Chris to be like, yeah, maybe

1147
00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,759
Speaker 1: go get her. Did you know any of this was

1148
00:56:45,800 --> 00:56:48,000
Speaker 1: going down? I knew none of that was going down.

1149
00:56:48,040 --> 00:56:49,759
Speaker 1: The only thing I knew about was one of the

1150
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: one of my producers, had just mentioned to me, like, hey,

1151
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,399
Speaker 1: you see some pictures Madison was like a film crew

1152
00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,160
Speaker 1: right now. I guess they went to like in Auburn,

1153
00:56:57,239 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: in her hometown, and they couldn't tell me what it

1154
00:57:00,719 --> 00:57:02,959
Speaker 1: was about. And that's kind of like they just wanted

1155
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: to give me heads up, Hey you might see some

1156
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: pictures like don't like freak out. And I was like, okay,

1157
00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 1: but did you think she was going to be bachelorette?

1158
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 1: Did she think it? No? Did you think that? I

1159
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:16,880
Speaker 1: definitely thought there was a chance for that, And I

1160
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: guess that's where did I think possibly something could be

1161
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,720
Speaker 1: going on in regards to like me, I did, but

1162
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: I didn't know for sure. So that's why when she

1163
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: did surprise me, I obviously was very shocked and I

1164
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 1: expect to see her there. I was. I was told

1165
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: I was gonna talk to Chris that dad, and so

1166
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: like they just had me doing some b roll looking

1167
00:57:34,840 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 1: around and and then I hear the heels come in

1168
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,800
Speaker 1: and like that. But and then that's my Saul Madison. Yeah,

1169
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: that interaction was weird. I'll just be honest, y'all, didn't

1170
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 1: I knew you were caught off guard. I could tell

1171
00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: you were surprised. Yeah, but she knew she was coming

1172
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: to see you, right, and it was just off like

1173
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 1: she didn't seem that excited. I mean, she we had

1174
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 1: just seen her say that she still loves you, right,

1175
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: obviously you still loved her. Didn't express it then, but

1176
00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,440
Speaker 1: we learned it. I just and you, being the person

1177
00:58:04,480 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: that you are, just just very passionate, y'all just seem like, Okay,

1178
00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:14,479
Speaker 1: here we are. It just didn't seem it was kind

1179
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: of underwhelming. M Yeah, what what what was that? I agree?

1180
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,200
Speaker 1: And because I even I think even to on stage

1181
00:58:23,200 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 1: at Afar people, I've heard comments like that. Just the

1182
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: chemistry didn't really seem there at all. Oh yeah, it

1183
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: was not. Okay, it wasn't you're you're right, You're totally right.

1184
00:58:31,840 --> 00:58:33,600
Speaker 1: I don't know if it was just nerves it was

1185
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 1: it was just being you know, uncomfortable. Um, I don't

1186
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 1: know what it was that you guys bring up a

1187
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: really valid point. Yeah, it seemed a little odd. I agree.

1188
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:48,240
Speaker 1: Do you think it had something to do with and

1189
00:58:48,240 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: and Rachel and I think talked about this on the

1190
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:53,000
Speaker 1: same podcast that we had Hannah and on. So basically

1191
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: I think my like, as a viewer, I felt like

1192
00:58:55,880 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 1: I was lacking in that entire ending scenario because basically

1193
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:03,840
Speaker 1: Madison had removed herself because she felt like, you guys

1194
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,720
Speaker 1: weren't compatible. Your lifestyles didn't maybe line up, and she

1195
00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 1: just couldn't see it working in the long run. So

1196
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:13,520
Speaker 1: she then removes herself at the end, only to then

1197
00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,280
Speaker 1: come back after talking with Chris, and you know, she

1198
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 1: told Chris like, I love Peter, who knows where this

1199
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 1: could go? Let's see. So she then comes to surprise

1200
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,919
Speaker 1: you in LA. But really, like what was going through

1201
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:30,480
Speaker 1: my mind that entire time was that, like nothing's changed

1202
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: up until that point. Like guess maybe she still loves

1203
00:59:32,840 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: you know, has those feelings, but if ultimately she felt

1204
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,240
Speaker 1: like the lifestyles weren't going to be compatible, like that's

1205
00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: still the case, Like nothing is any different besides like

1206
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: her saying like, oh, Peter ended his engagement with Hannah Anne.

1207
00:59:47,960 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 1: So I feel like if I were to be you

1208
00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: or her, and this is just me being me and

1209
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 1: how I would react. I would like I probably wouldn't

1210
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: have gone out to La because I would have still

1211
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 1: been like, Okay, yeah, you can love somebody, but at

1212
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 1: the end of the day, so relationships just don't work

1213
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: out because you aren't compatible. And so for me watching it,

1214
01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,720
Speaker 1: I was like, what is going on? Because she was

1215
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,640
Speaker 1: very like adamant about one thing and that thing is

1216
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:15,160
Speaker 1: still present, but now she's doing something to try and

1217
01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: see if it could maybe work. It just it didn't

1218
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: line up, and maybe that's what was causing the tension

1219
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,200
Speaker 1: and why it seemed off. And before you answer to

1220
01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: piggyback on what Becca's saying, is she eliminates herself because

1221
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 1: you had been intimate during the same week with another woman,

1222
01:00:31,440 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 1: and then you propose to a woman you obviously are

1223
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,880
Speaker 1: intimate with her. You've commit possibly spending the rest of

1224
01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:43,439
Speaker 1: your life with this person, which is even more than

1225
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: just you know, being intimate with women during a fantasy week.

1226
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:49,959
Speaker 1: And she can come back after that, but not come

1227
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: back but not deal with what she dealt with when

1228
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 1: the season was going on. Yeah, those are two good points,

1229
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: I think real quick. On the second one, I think

1230
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,480
Speaker 1: that probably was a reason that it seemed very comfortable

1231
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 1: from her. Obviously for me, I was probably picking up

1232
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:06,920
Speaker 1: on that body language and just the vibe. But I

1233
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:10,400
Speaker 1: do know that, like, you know, stuff that didn't make it,

1234
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:13,240
Speaker 1: that didn't air what we had more of a conversation

1235
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:16,439
Speaker 1: than aired. You know, she did feel you know, like

1236
01:01:16,720 --> 01:01:18,840
Speaker 1: a little bit uncomfortable in regards to me, just it

1237
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,400
Speaker 1: was tough for her to take the fact that I

1238
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: had you been engaged. That was hard for her. A

1239
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 1: swell and obviously coming out and making an effort to

1240
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,760
Speaker 1: come and post to see if there's still something here

1241
01:01:27,800 --> 01:01:30,320
Speaker 1: with me was uncomfortable for her because she didn't want

1242
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,200
Speaker 1: to be stepping on Hannah Ann's toes. And I remember

1243
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,480
Speaker 1: her being like very thoughtful of that and kept like

1244
01:01:34,640 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: just wanting to make sure that she if we were

1245
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,480
Speaker 1: going to do this, it'd be like done the right way.

1246
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,040
Speaker 1: So I think I get it. Like it it seems

1247
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,760
Speaker 1: a little odd. Why could she be not okay with

1248
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 1: Fantasy Suit Week, but coming after, you know, an engagement

1249
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,960
Speaker 1: just ended. I definitely think she was uncomfortable about that.

1250
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:53,280
Speaker 1: But was she did you ask her that question? Yeah?

1251
01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:56,000
Speaker 1: And she told me that, Like she straight up told me,

1252
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: like in our conversation that she just she didn't know

1253
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 1: the best way to go about this. She had obviously

1254
01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:04,360
Speaker 1: when she had gone back home, she had started really

1255
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:07,200
Speaker 1: processing everything that had just happened, and you know, she

1256
01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: realized that her feelings for me weren't going away. She

1257
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: really struggled that for a while, and kind of to

1258
01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:18,040
Speaker 1: what you were saying, Becca, Yeah, ultimately, listen, did our

1259
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,360
Speaker 1: differences and lack of compatibility be the reason that we

1260
01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: stop things? Yes, But she admitted to me that she thought,

1261
01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: like her exact words were, and obviously like I'm very

1262
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 1: different than you know, possibly her dad or whatnot, but

1263
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:33,960
Speaker 1: and all the respect in the world for her dad,

1264
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:36,479
Speaker 1: but she told me, she's like, I kept thinking that

1265
01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:40,160
Speaker 1: I wanted someone just like my dad, and that's kind

1266
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: of how like I just grew up and people that

1267
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 1: I've dated. And then after reflecting and everything in the

1268
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,880
Speaker 1: months that ensued, she said that she realized that she

1269
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: doesn't need anyone like her dad because she's just like

1270
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 1: her dad. And the fact that I am, you know,

1271
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,840
Speaker 1: different in a lot of ways actually were qualities that

1272
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:58,840
Speaker 1: she realized why she felt for me. And you know,

1273
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,800
Speaker 1: she admitted that, m And so that's I think why,

1274
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,320
Speaker 1: you know, she elected to kind of like restart this

1275
01:03:07,480 --> 01:03:10,720
Speaker 1: and give this, you know, hopefully another chance with us again. Ultimately,

1276
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: when we really just had an honest, honest conversation with

1277
01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,640
Speaker 1: each other the two days after Afar, and it was

1278
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:18,080
Speaker 1: just me and her, and we said, listen, let's completely

1279
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: remove our heart, our feelings from this conversation and only

1280
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:24,479
Speaker 1: speak logically about if this is possible, can this work?

1281
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: And it was it was no, And yeah, go ahead, Peter,

1282
01:03:30,440 --> 01:03:33,680
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, no, But like I mean, I just I

1283
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: think that what you saw there was was was two

1284
01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: people that obviously had strong feelings for each other, and yeah,

1285
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:43,080
Speaker 1: there was a reason issue why we ended, but weren't

1286
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:46,120
Speaker 1: really ready to completely give up on those feelings. And again,

1287
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:47,920
Speaker 1: from what she realized, like you know, she said she

1288
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: had dated a lot of other guys that were different

1289
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,440
Speaker 1: from me, that were like what she thought she wanted,

1290
01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:55,280
Speaker 1: they weren't working out for a certain reason, and so

1291
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:58,560
Speaker 1: this is something that she realized, you know, before she

1292
01:03:58,600 --> 01:04:02,760
Speaker 1: came out. Yeah, I mean, it gets it makes sense

1293
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: to me. It's just what doesn't make sense is Okay,

1294
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:07,560
Speaker 1: So y'all have that talk, Glad. That was one of

1295
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,000
Speaker 1: my questions. So glad to know after we saw you

1296
01:04:10,040 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 1: guys meet for the first time since the breakup, you

1297
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,120
Speaker 1: guys had a full out conversation and everything. That's great.

1298
01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 1: So I would imagine that you continue to talk from

1299
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:24,600
Speaker 1: then up until the finale, which is kind of why

1300
01:04:24,680 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 1: the message you kept giving them, like BECA and I

1301
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 1: and other outlets is we don't know how this is

1302
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:30,000
Speaker 1: going to end. We don't know how this is going

1303
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:32,200
Speaker 1: to end. So I'm curious as to what was the

1304
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:36,320
Speaker 1: game plan coming into the finale, Like what was it

1305
01:04:36,360 --> 01:04:38,680
Speaker 1: supposed to be? How were you guys supposed to because

1306
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,360
Speaker 1: I think the most shocking thing is two days later,

1307
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:43,320
Speaker 1: y'all are done. It's like, well, what the hell was

1308
01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: all that for? You stood up to your family, you know,

1309
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,000
Speaker 1: you you profess your love for each other and how difficult,

1310
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,400
Speaker 1: you know what's going to be, and you're gonna work

1311
01:04:50,440 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 1: at it. Only for two days later you guys ended,

1312
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,439
Speaker 1: which is why I think a lot of people thought

1313
01:04:56,480 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 1: it was staged. I'll say that, and it did not. Yeah,

1314
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,000
Speaker 1: I got that, I've heard that, but it was not stage.

1315
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: I can promise you guys that we we didn't see

1316
01:05:05,560 --> 01:05:09,560
Speaker 1: each other until this on Stage Life finale, we did talk. Obviously,

1317
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: we faced time a lot, and we just had a

1318
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,400
Speaker 1: lot of those you know talks that we needed to

1319
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,960
Speaker 1: have that I wish you would have had way sooner

1320
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,960
Speaker 1: than we could have had in the Fantasy suite, you know,

1321
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,480
Speaker 1: with time off camera, you know, it's kind of crazy,

1322
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,440
Speaker 1: but really the main the first time that her and

1323
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: I ever spent time alone off camera was when after

1324
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,800
Speaker 1: the show ended, and that was just like crazy for

1325
01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: like such a serious relationship for that to have been

1326
01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,440
Speaker 1: the first time. But we really didn't know what we

1327
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: were going to do, and we knew that, like obviously

1328
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:38,960
Speaker 1: there were still feelings there, but going into the finale,

1329
01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: we really didn't know what we're gonna do. And I

1330
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:42,960
Speaker 1: don't like, looking back on it, I'm confused as why

1331
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 1: we didn't, like I didn't see each other before it

1332
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 1: was an option and like I I wanted to do it,

1333
01:05:51,040 --> 01:05:53,640
Speaker 1: and you know, I remember her same stuff like well

1334
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:55,440
Speaker 1: maybe we should just like make this like really authentic

1335
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 1: on stage and like not like have that be the

1336
01:05:58,440 --> 01:06:00,920
Speaker 1: first time and I saw I saw some of that

1337
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: like d and um, but I remember like good before

1338
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: I listen, I remember there too, before I was like,

1339
01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:11,000
Speaker 1: I think I need to see her. I need to

1340
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:16,040
Speaker 1: see her. And at that time, oh yeah, pater for somebody,

1341
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,760
Speaker 1: I becka back me up on this. When you love

1342
01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 1: somebody and you have those happy couple weekends or you

1343
01:06:23,480 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: haven't seen anybody, you are itching there is like you

1344
01:06:26,720 --> 01:06:30,800
Speaker 1: are dying to see that person inside and the and

1345
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: I get you saying I wanted to see her. I

1346
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:34,720
Speaker 1: wanted to see her, and to hear that she was like,

1347
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 1: maybe we should wait because it's more authentic on stage.

1348
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:40,920
Speaker 1: Are you putting on a show or are you trying

1349
01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 1: to get to know each other. That's where I have

1350
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 1: the conflict. And you guys had already had so much

1351
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: lost time and there was so much time that need

1352
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 1: to be made up, I think, to make to really

1353
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: solidified the relationship. And so if I was the two

1354
01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:58,640
Speaker 1: of you, I would have like, from the moment she

1355
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,160
Speaker 1: had flown out to La to try to rekindle things

1356
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,520
Speaker 1: with you, that entire time, I would have been like, look,

1357
01:07:04,520 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 1: we need to be together. We need to see if

1358
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,040
Speaker 1: we can make this work. We need to make up

1359
01:07:09,040 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: for all of the last time there needed, like I think,

1360
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 1: for a relationship and for like you want to be

1361
01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:17,000
Speaker 1: with someone. As Rachel said, you want to spend those

1362
01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 1: epy couple moments together. Um, and so to me, like,

1363
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,480
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have reacted that same way I would. I

1364
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: would not. I would have been so terrified to get

1365
01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 1: on stage and have there be so many unknowns like

1366
01:07:31,480 --> 01:07:33,760
Speaker 1: I would have won. That's why it was awkward. I

1367
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,520
Speaker 1: would not have you by my side, Peter, to really

1368
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 1: back each other up, to support one another, to feel

1369
01:07:38,920 --> 01:07:43,200
Speaker 1: super solid in that. And so I mean, and if

1370
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,960
Speaker 1: you had the opportunity to do it, shit, you should have.

1371
01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: And it wasn't It wasn't all her. I like I

1372
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: agreed to it too, Like I it wasn't just her

1373
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: all this happened. I just think the common thing theme

1374
01:07:56,120 --> 01:07:57,960
Speaker 1: that a lot of people saw is it looked like

1375
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 1: you were giving one hundred percent and one hundred percent

1376
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:03,280
Speaker 1: wasn't being given back to you. That's just kind of

1377
01:08:03,280 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: how it comes off to an audience. So I'm very

1378
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 1: curious as we know how your family felt about Madison. Yeah,

1379
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: we saw it all play out. I don't really want

1380
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 1: to get in all that, but I have to ask

1381
01:08:16,040 --> 01:08:19,360
Speaker 1: why did your family feel a certain way about Madison?

1382
01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,920
Speaker 1: And I mean, like, not just a feeling like it was.

1383
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,759
Speaker 1: It was like a steadfast thing and it went from father, mother, brother,

1384
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,639
Speaker 1: you know, let your mom tell it, friends as well.

1385
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:34,760
Speaker 1: So why were there feelings so strong against Madison. I

1386
01:08:34,800 --> 01:08:37,560
Speaker 1: think all of that stuff really did start in Australia

1387
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,080
Speaker 1: when they when they were out there and it was

1388
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,240
Speaker 1: like the family visits and the you know, Hannah Ann

1389
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:44,760
Speaker 1: had gone first and that went. She just knocked it

1390
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 1: out of the park. My family fell in love with

1391
01:08:46,320 --> 01:08:49,600
Speaker 1: her immediately, obviously I knew why, and which just was

1392
01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,600
Speaker 1: such a great day. And the second day comes in

1393
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,800
Speaker 1: Madison and just boom is granted, this is all my

1394
01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 1: doing that got her in this headspace, and I can

1395
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,840
Speaker 1: I can take that responsibility. But she was not a

1396
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,680
Speaker 1: good headspace at all. And like the talks about you know,

1397
01:09:02,760 --> 01:09:05,559
Speaker 1: being outside the house for three hours waiting, having my

1398
01:09:05,560 --> 01:09:07,640
Speaker 1: parents wait was one hundred percent try that was that

1399
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,120
Speaker 1: was the case, um. And I was essentially trying to

1400
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 1: like convince her why I felt like we needed it,

1401
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,000
Speaker 1: like at least put this stuff behind us and talked

1402
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: to my family. You know, they had just flown halfway

1403
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:19,160
Speaker 1: around the world. If we go in and if I

1404
01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: go in and say, listen, Madison just can't talk right now,

1405
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: Like that's just not going to be a good look.

1406
01:09:23,080 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: So she didn't want to talk to your family. She didn't. Yeah,

1407
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 1: she didn't feel like she was in the right headspace

1408
01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: to be able to go do that, okay, And so I,

1409
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: you know, I understood why she was still on the

1410
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:33,600
Speaker 1: way she did. I knew we had to work on

1411
01:09:33,600 --> 01:09:36,080
Speaker 1: our own stuff, but that's just the way the show

1412
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:38,080
Speaker 1: goes and the schedule, and like that was the one

1413
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,799
Speaker 1: day we had allocated to go spend time with my family,

1414
01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:42,799
Speaker 1: and so I did my best to try to convince

1415
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:45,960
Speaker 1: her why, you know, she finally, you know, realized, okay,

1416
01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, she was gonna do it for me and um,

1417
01:09:49,040 --> 01:09:51,040
Speaker 1: and then we went inside and obviously just off it

1418
01:09:51,080 --> 01:09:52,760
Speaker 1: was off to a bad start, you know, we my

1419
01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 1: family obviously was you know, obviously annoyed. I don't think

1420
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 1: anyone would be like waiting three hours just doing nothing

1421
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,240
Speaker 1: to have that conversation. It just got off to a

1422
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: bad start. Just immediately. You could feel the vibe was

1423
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,320
Speaker 1: not the same with Hannah Anne, and you know they

1424
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:09,840
Speaker 1: had I guess known a little bit now about the

1425
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: differences that we had had. I expressed to them, you know,

1426
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:15,000
Speaker 1: the day prior about when I was talking about both

1427
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,920
Speaker 1: women that you know, there have been some issues that

1428
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,680
Speaker 1: Maddie and I were going through because of what had

1429
01:10:19,680 --> 01:10:22,240
Speaker 1: happened with the Fantasy Sweet Week, and so they had

1430
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: already seen, like started to see these differences, and they

1431
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,560
Speaker 1: just being my family and the one on one conversations

1432
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: I had with each of them, like we're just like,

1433
01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:33,920
Speaker 1: they didn't see this working. They just didn't see it working.

1434
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 1: And they saw that, yes, she was an amazing girl,

1435
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 1: but the two of us were just too different, and

1436
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:41,200
Speaker 1: they were just looking out for me, and you know,

1437
01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:43,080
Speaker 1: you see that passion kind of come out on stage

1438
01:10:43,080 --> 01:10:46,360
Speaker 1: and everything. And I think I do think as much

1439
01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,280
Speaker 1: as I can, you know, defend Maddie and everything, and

1440
01:10:48,720 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: I do think that she could have coming out on

1441
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:55,840
Speaker 1: stage apologize, you know, a really quick apology to my

1442
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:57,920
Speaker 1: parents about the last time she had seen him and

1443
01:10:57,960 --> 01:10:59,360
Speaker 1: what had gone down. I think that would have gone

1444
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 1: a long way, and I really really do, you know,

1445
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:08,080
Speaker 1: Fortunately that didn't happen. That wasn't the case, and that's

1446
01:11:08,120 --> 01:11:10,240
Speaker 1: kind of why that's really because that's the only time

1447
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 1: my parents saw Maddie like that was really where that

1448
01:11:12,439 --> 01:11:14,880
Speaker 1: passion that just like them, being just like ants is

1449
01:11:14,920 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 1: not going to work. Bud. You gotta like, you gotta

1450
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,559
Speaker 1: understand that that's where that came from. Peter. So your

1451
01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:25,679
Speaker 1: mom said this during the finale, But she said that

1452
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:28,240
Speaker 1: day after, you know, waiting a couple of hours and

1453
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,120
Speaker 1: finally sitting down with Maddie, that she asked her flat out,

1454
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 1: like do you love my son? And she had said no,

1455
01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:40,759
Speaker 1: And that's what you So when your mom had told

1456
01:11:40,800 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 1: you that, and maybe and I think she had said

1457
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,400
Speaker 1: that she your brother had asked Maddison the same thing

1458
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:49,519
Speaker 1: and Madison had said the same answer. So when you

1459
01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:52,960
Speaker 1: knew that, what was going through your your brain and

1460
01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,080
Speaker 1: knowing like, Okay, you know she's still here, but she's

1461
01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: been on the fence about sticking around or leaving, and

1462
01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:01,479
Speaker 1: now she's admitted and that she's not in love with

1463
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: me to my family, Like, what was going through your brain?

1464
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 1: I was so confused because literally an hour before outside

1465
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:11,000
Speaker 1: she said she did love me. That was the first

1466
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,360
Speaker 1: time she told me. I remember like being ridiculous because

1467
01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:15,040
Speaker 1: I was like, it's all I've been wanting to hear

1468
01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:17,360
Speaker 1: the entire time. And then like I just we were

1469
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,719
Speaker 1: having a very serious conversation that like I just completely

1470
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,680
Speaker 1: lost all seriousness because I was kind of happy and giddy. Um,

1471
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,680
Speaker 1: So she just told me that outside. And that's why

1472
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:26,400
Speaker 1: my mom told me that. I was just very very

1473
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,160
Speaker 1: confused and shocked because I'm like, what she just told

1474
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 1: me she did? And then but that's that's another thing.

1475
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:34,600
Speaker 1: That's that's another thing of why my mom was, you know,

1476
01:12:34,720 --> 01:12:37,599
Speaker 1: very passionate about what she was saying. Was you hear

1477
01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 1: she has Hannah Anne, her and her hit it off

1478
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 1: like no other. Hannah's expressing how she does feel about me,

1479
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:44,559
Speaker 1: and she can totally see this with me, and then

1480
01:12:44,600 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: it's a literally complete opposite, you know, with Maddie, and

1481
01:12:48,120 --> 01:12:50,000
Speaker 1: you know, her saying that she didn't love me and

1482
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 1: that she couldn't see an engagement in the next couple

1483
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: of days. That part, I will say, I get why

1484
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,880
Speaker 1: Maddie couldn't see an engagement after how strongly she felt

1485
01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: about fantasy like intimacy. I get that. A couple of

1486
01:13:00,520 --> 01:13:02,599
Speaker 1: days later, that's not ideally how you want to be

1487
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,640
Speaker 1: proposed to knowing what happened a couple I get that,

1488
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,280
Speaker 1: But I do know that like that went a long

1489
01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 1: way with my mom to like not be the biggest

1490
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 1: fan of that relationship. When when Maddie told her that, well,

1491
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: then I guess where's the disconnect, Like, why did she

1492
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: just tell you that? And then she said no to

1493
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: your family. Did you ever ask her about that? Yeah? Yeah,

1494
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 1: And I think I don't know. I think it's like

1495
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 1: semantic all right. It was just like she, I guess

1496
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:34,479
Speaker 1: the way my mom met asked it was like, are

1497
01:13:34,520 --> 01:13:36,439
Speaker 1: you madly head over heels in love with my son

1498
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 1: or something like that, And I guess that made Maddie

1499
01:13:39,320 --> 01:13:42,519
Speaker 1: say no. I don't know. It was just a confusing day.

1500
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,240
Speaker 1: I don't Yeah, it sounds it sounds very confusing, and

1501
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,760
Speaker 1: it sounds like you're better off. I don't want to

1502
01:13:49,760 --> 01:13:52,679
Speaker 1: see anybody fail. Yeah, but it sounds like you guys

1503
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 1: are better separate than together. Yeah, if you could. Because

1504
01:13:58,040 --> 01:14:00,040
Speaker 1: I know that we were supposed to talk to you

1505
01:14:00,160 --> 01:14:04,160
Speaker 1: after the finale, and obviously nobody saw it going the

1506
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:07,520
Speaker 1: way that it did, and Becca and I totally respected

1507
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,040
Speaker 1: the fact that this is personal at this point and

1508
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:13,679
Speaker 1: it's not about doing a podcast, Like we care about

1509
01:14:13,680 --> 01:14:15,000
Speaker 1: you and we want you to be okay at the

1510
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 1: end of the day. So I don't want to get

1511
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: into the details of your conversation with Madison, but after

1512
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:24,160
Speaker 1: you got off stage, and obviously there was some you know,

1513
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,600
Speaker 1: you guys were upset and emotional. Did you know that

1514
01:14:27,680 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 1: it was over at that point? No, So we got

1515
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,520
Speaker 1: off stage. I remember we were both in a bad headspace,

1516
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:37,639
Speaker 1: just like down We walked up to like the changing

1517
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:40,720
Speaker 1: room areas where we were waiting before it just her

1518
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: and I. We had a quick moment just with each other.

1519
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,400
Speaker 1: We just hugged each other and just kind of like

1520
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 1: we're supporting each other. Then we decided to talk to

1521
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: some producers. At that point, I don't from my side,

1522
01:14:51,120 --> 01:14:52,920
Speaker 1: I didn't think that it was it was over over

1523
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:56,839
Speaker 1: or anything. We then separated. I went back to my hotel.

1524
01:14:56,920 --> 01:14:59,200
Speaker 1: She went back to her hotel, called her parents for

1525
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:01,160
Speaker 1: a little bit, came back to my hotel. We spent

1526
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,000
Speaker 1: a couple of hours and just you know, we're there

1527
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,320
Speaker 1: for each other. Didn't really have a serious conversation about

1528
01:15:05,680 --> 01:15:07,280
Speaker 1: figuring this out, but just wanted to be there for

1529
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: each other and spend time. Fast forward to the next day,

1530
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 1: I didn't see her mom had flown out and spent

1531
01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: the day with her. The next day, The second day

1532
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:18,840
Speaker 1: is when I went over to her hotel and we

1533
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:21,559
Speaker 1: spent just like you know, six hours probably just talking.

1534
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:24,439
Speaker 1: And that was when it had that sentiment going into

1535
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:27,920
Speaker 1: the conversation that this is this is it, this is

1536
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,120
Speaker 1: not this is unfortunately as sad as it is, like

1537
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,240
Speaker 1: it's not going to work as much as like maybe

1538
01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:36,559
Speaker 1: we might want it to have worked. And that was

1539
01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: the day where we both I think knew that it

1540
01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,960
Speaker 1: was it was over. So you guys agreed to do

1541
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:44,639
Speaker 1: an Instagram post to kind of announce at the same time.

1542
01:15:45,240 --> 01:15:47,800
Speaker 1: And then what did you do after that? Did you

1543
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:52,519
Speaker 1: go home? Yes? Um, so that day was when I

1544
01:15:52,600 --> 01:15:56,640
Speaker 1: left her hotel, I went straight home, and I was

1545
01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 1: the first time I saw my family and first just

1546
01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 1: you know, went in, gave him a hug and just

1547
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:04,960
Speaker 1: like told him I loved him and everything and um,

1548
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: and then expressed them what had just happened with Mattie

1549
01:16:07,240 --> 01:16:10,440
Speaker 1: and I and what we had decided to do, and um,

1550
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: you know kind of began that whole healing process with

1551
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,599
Speaker 1: my family and everything and just sticking together. But yeah,

1552
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,720
Speaker 1: that was the first day I went home and then

1553
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,600
Speaker 1: she went to go play board games with Selena Gomez

1554
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:26,080
Speaker 1: so I know, I didn't know that actually until the

1555
01:16:26,600 --> 01:16:29,400
Speaker 1: TMZ guys told me that, but um was that who

1556
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: culture I went, I know, jesus um I had found out.

1557
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 1: So she had told me that night that she was

1558
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,080
Speaker 1: going to go spend some time with one of her friends,

1559
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:47,640
Speaker 1: one of her good girlfriends that was living in la Um.

1560
01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,840
Speaker 1: Talking to Maddie later after because we had text here

1561
01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: and there, um after was she told me like listen,

1562
01:16:53,320 --> 01:16:54,800
Speaker 1: I know how I guess how that could look. But

1563
01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,880
Speaker 1: like she did go over to her friend's place and

1564
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 1: her friend just ended up being really good friends with Selena,

1565
01:16:59,479 --> 01:17:02,280
Speaker 1: and I guess Selena had said something about, you know, hey,

1566
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,400
Speaker 1: we're like going to my grandmother's house play board games,

1567
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:06,360
Speaker 1: like come over here, and some really went over there.

1568
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: That's that's what I heard. Have you I believe it?

1569
01:17:09,960 --> 01:17:12,360
Speaker 1: I believe it. So have you and Maddie stayed in

1570
01:17:12,439 --> 01:17:16,080
Speaker 1: content contact since all of that or is it pretty

1571
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,800
Speaker 1: much you know you've shut the door, you guys have

1572
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:21,120
Speaker 1: both moved on. Yeah, we talked. We text her a

1573
01:17:21,160 --> 01:17:24,160
Speaker 1: little bit after, and you know, it was sad. You know,

1574
01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: there was obviously like you know, missing each other kind

1575
01:17:27,280 --> 01:17:30,280
Speaker 1: of stuff like that and whatnot. And um, you know,

1576
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:31,840
Speaker 1: I remember she'd like send me like a video and

1577
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:34,240
Speaker 1: it's just like it was. It was tough, but we

1578
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: we we both knew it was over. And then um

1579
01:17:38,360 --> 01:17:41,080
Speaker 1: kind of just all ended. Yeah, like we I r

1580
01:17:41,080 --> 01:17:42,880
Speaker 1: had sent her one thing and like I never really

1581
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: heard it and came back. I'm like, okay, yeah, like

1582
01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:47,800
Speaker 1: this is I got to stop doing this. And then um,

1583
01:17:47,840 --> 01:17:51,200
Speaker 1: and then the whole Kelly stuff happened. Um, and you

1584
01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 1: know I came out here to be be here for her,

1585
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:57,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, I had sound like a text to Madison

1586
01:17:57,439 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: just kind of explaining everything so she could hear it

1587
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: from me, and she was like, really, you know, Brig

1588
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:05,679
Speaker 1: and rock Star and under you know, wasn't like trying

1589
01:18:05,680 --> 01:18:07,400
Speaker 1: to be even big or anything that I didn't think

1590
01:18:07,400 --> 01:18:08,800
Speaker 1: it was like, wasn't trying to be mean about it,

1591
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:11,840
Speaker 1: and just like kind of like told me that. It's

1592
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:15,720
Speaker 1: like like I appreciated that, and uh yeah. Then I

1593
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,640
Speaker 1: haven't talked to her since. So, Becca, I don't know

1594
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:19,960
Speaker 1: if I've ever asked you this question before or I've

1595
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:22,960
Speaker 1: even said this, but so Peter, I'm directing this to you,

1596
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:26,639
Speaker 1: and Becca you can answer too. I in Fantasy Suite

1597
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: I asked all of my guys if I didn't choose them,

1598
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:34,400
Speaker 1: would they be the Bachelor like I wanted to. It

1599
01:18:34,479 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: wasn't really a trick question. It was just more of

1600
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:41,920
Speaker 1: I'm very curious to see how you would respond to this.

1601
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,640
Speaker 1: And so, Becca, did you ask your guys? Well? So,

1602
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 1: when I had fantasy suites, I only had two because

1603
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,840
Speaker 1: I had sent Jason home prior to spending the night

1604
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:53,920
Speaker 1: with him. Um, so I had Garrett and Blake. Had

1605
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:58,040
Speaker 1: I gone a different route and ended up with Blake, Hell, no,

1606
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,200
Speaker 1: would Garrett have been the Bachelor. There's no way. No.

1607
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 1: Garret wouldn't have done he would, you know? And well,

1608
01:19:05,840 --> 01:19:08,879
Speaker 1: and I do know. I mean Blake was in talks

1609
01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:11,600
Speaker 1: to potentially be the Bachelor, um, along with some of

1610
01:19:11,640 --> 01:19:15,599
Speaker 1: the other guys when Colton season happened. So, um, I'm

1611
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,760
Speaker 1: sure he would have said yes. I never asked him that,

1612
01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:21,519
Speaker 1: But yeah, I know Garrett would have you paid one

1613
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,839
Speaker 1: million dollars and he would have not been the Bachelor.

1614
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,320
Speaker 1: I think Brian would have would have done it. Um.

1615
01:19:28,120 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: So I'm going somewhere with this. I'm asking you, Peter, Yeah,

1616
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:36,040
Speaker 1: do you think that because we kind of touched on

1617
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: this but we didn't go into this when you were

1618
01:19:37,880 --> 01:19:42,439
Speaker 1: told that the cameras were at Madison's um and I said, oh,

1619
01:19:42,479 --> 01:19:44,559
Speaker 1: did you think that she was going to be asked

1620
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,800
Speaker 1: to be the bachelrette? Do you think that if she

1621
01:19:46,920 --> 01:19:49,920
Speaker 1: was asked she would have done it? No? I don't.

1622
01:19:50,320 --> 01:20:05,679
Speaker 1: What about Hannah Ann Um? Yeah, okay, what about Kelly Um? No,

1623
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: Kelly no one. So why do you think Hannah ann

1624
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 1: would have and not the other two? Well? I guess

1625
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,519
Speaker 1: so to be fair, I didn't actually ask them, so

1626
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,120
Speaker 1: like my final three of this, and I never I

1627
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: never asked Hannah Anne Um it came up and talks

1628
01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: to Madison and I and I tell you no, because

1629
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:26,439
Speaker 1: she told me she would have said no, like that

1630
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: wasn't something she would have done. Um. But I guess

1631
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:32,880
Speaker 1: with Hannah Anne, I mean because it's it's not there's

1632
01:20:32,920 --> 01:20:35,400
Speaker 1: there's nothing negative about that. Like I if you would

1633
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: if I would be talking to two former bacherettes here, yeah,

1634
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 1: in your final three, like if someone or might you

1635
01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,640
Speaker 1: know Hannah Brown would ask you? Like I would have

1636
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 1: been like, if you don't pick me, this is really

1637
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:46,880
Speaker 1: weird question. But of course, like obviously it's working for me, right, now,

1638
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,400
Speaker 1: so I know that it could work if you broke

1639
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,000
Speaker 1: my sight. Now and it's not gonna work, why wouldn't

1640
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,760
Speaker 1: I want to? Um? So it's nothing negative, but I

1641
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 1: think yeah, Hannah, and you know, would have would have

1642
01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: what do you what are you trying to do? Kind

1643
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: of sneak behind me? Is that Kelly? Yeah, he's trying

1644
01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:03,559
Speaker 1: to crawl on the floor behind me. Kelly, we heard

1645
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:05,439
Speaker 1: you were Oh she didn't hear us because he's got

1646
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:10,880
Speaker 1: headphones on. Binger on, come on it, come on it.

1647
01:21:11,000 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 1: Say hi, can you hear us sneak around? Kelly? She's

1648
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:19,200
Speaker 1: been bashful. Wait, we actually called to talk to you,

1649
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:21,720
Speaker 1: and Peter just happened to pick up. I was just

1650
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:32,559
Speaker 1: hogging the zoom screen now, Hi, Kelly. No, that's the question.

1651
01:21:32,600 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 1: We were just asking him. Listen, we got a little

1652
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:39,200
Speaker 1: too awkward on this show. No, you're not awkward. You

1653
01:21:39,320 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: just I think, yeah, spoken, I don't think. I think

1654
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,200
Speaker 1: you would have Kelly. You would have been good because

1655
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: you would have kept the men in their place. True,

1656
01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,800
Speaker 1: you just get it. Becca and I are also two

1657
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,880
Speaker 1: Batchelors who didn't have a lot of drama in our

1658
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:53,920
Speaker 1: season because we were kind of like we're here to

1659
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,040
Speaker 1: do something, and it's like, it is what it is,

1660
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 1: So you probably would have been like, like, it's changed

1661
01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:00,760
Speaker 1: a little bit, like in the past couple of years,

1662
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 1: it's more drama focused. So do they hold on to that?

1663
01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 1: They reverse it and go back to what you guys

1664
01:22:06,439 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: had say, she's already she's asking the wrong this. Yeah,

1665
01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:15,720
Speaker 1: she couldn't do it. Are you do? You still have

1666
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:20,160
Speaker 1: to work right now? Um? I should be working more

1667
01:22:20,240 --> 01:22:23,200
Speaker 1: than I am, but there's little things that I still

1668
01:22:23,200 --> 01:22:25,639
Speaker 1: have to do. Yeah, I just didn't know. I mean,

1669
01:22:25,880 --> 01:22:28,639
Speaker 1: I don't practice anymore, so I'm like, Oh, what's what's

1670
01:22:28,640 --> 01:22:30,720
Speaker 1: going on in the legal world or people? Still, I

1671
01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:35,200
Speaker 1: did finish my cls this month, so I was so

1672
01:22:35,360 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 1: proud of myself for finishing. Remember. Yeah, Hey, hey, Rachel,

1673
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: may it please the court. I'm so proud of you.

1674
01:22:46,120 --> 01:22:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm so proud of you. Look at you two steps

1675
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:55,679
Speaker 1: away from a courtroom. No, we've just been having fun

1676
01:22:55,760 --> 01:22:59,240
Speaker 1: asking Pewter questions about and Kelly. You're somebody we wanted

1677
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: to talk to the show. I feel like we've hot

1678
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:04,679
Speaker 1: We've No. No, I'm not gonna hog your time because

1679
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:06,120
Speaker 1: we've been talking to Peter. I feel like for an

1680
01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:08,759
Speaker 1: hour and a half. At this point, I'm in my closet.

1681
01:23:08,800 --> 01:23:13,320
Speaker 1: So Specca, we have nothing else to do, so parties

1682
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: DJs on the team. Okay, well here's a question. Why

1683
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:20,080
Speaker 1: were you at women till all? I honestly don't know. No, no,

1684
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:23,360
Speaker 1: not at women? Sorry, why were you affe? I really

1685
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it's just from from the only

1686
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,840
Speaker 1: The only thing that I got was Chris Harrison doing

1687
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:32,040
Speaker 1: an interview saying that they want to throw people off

1688
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:34,280
Speaker 1: because they thought I was pregnant with Peter's child or

1689
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:39,320
Speaker 1: something like, Yeah, was that a rumor practice? Yeah, people

1690
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:42,479
Speaker 1: call up with the weirdest crap. You guys, I swear well, Kelly,

1691
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:44,840
Speaker 1: when when rached, I saw you because we were there,

1692
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,720
Speaker 1: we were just watching backstage. We weren't allowed out there,

1693
01:23:47,880 --> 01:23:49,720
Speaker 1: which we really wanted to. But when we saw you

1694
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: were like, let us go sit with Kelly and Barr.

1695
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:56,720
Speaker 1: Why are you guys keeping your back here? You were

1696
01:23:56,760 --> 01:23:59,920
Speaker 1: sitting next to my friend Kelly, my two guests on

1697
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:01,680
Speaker 1: to show the guy. It was a couple that was

1698
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 1: sitting next to you. Yeah. So like they're big Bachelor fans.

1699
01:24:06,120 --> 01:24:08,600
Speaker 1: They do like he does ESPN stuff and he's like

1700
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 1: like we were sitting next to Kelly. I was like, well,

1701
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:14,080
Speaker 1: you're welcome. I didn't even plan it that way, but

1702
01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,080
Speaker 1: you're welcome. That's so funny. And the first time I

1703
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:20,559
Speaker 1: ever saw her there, it was there in the first

1704
01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:22,720
Speaker 1: commercial break and then Chris is like, hey, so I

1705
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,599
Speaker 1: just did a little shift that out to Kelly. She's

1706
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: up there, and I looked at it. Kelly just waving,

1707
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: like what were y'all in communication at that point? Like

1708
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: were y'all like cool? Y'all hadn't okay? I like people

1709
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:36,120
Speaker 1: think everything happened like before. I didn't get her number

1710
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:39,880
Speaker 1: until so I was talking about Christian that night, like

1711
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:43,559
Speaker 1: nothing before. Well, in all fairness, you don't really need

1712
01:24:43,600 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: phone numbers these days, there's so many ways to communicate. So, Kelly,

1713
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,679
Speaker 1: I'll ask you this question because we asked Peter when

1714
01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,479
Speaker 1: we know that you guys have been quarantined before those

1715
01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: infamous TMZ photos, when you decided to say, you know what,

1716
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:00,599
Speaker 1: we're going to go to the river Walk where y'all

1717
01:25:00,640 --> 01:25:05,720
Speaker 1: just like fuck it, We're gonna go. Who cares? Who sees? No,

1718
01:25:05,880 --> 01:25:08,360
Speaker 1: not the social distancing, I mean like being out in public.

1719
01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,160
Speaker 1: Oh No, to be completely honest, I think we're pretty

1720
01:25:11,240 --> 01:25:14,640
Speaker 1: naive and in that aspect um, you know, I was

1721
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 1: wearing like two hoods. He was wearing sunglasses and a hat,

1722
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 1: and I guess that just doesn't really work well with

1723
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: Clay and dust In two. I mean like stick out

1724
01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: like sort of you know what's crazy? The real quick

1725
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:29,639
Speaker 1: this is insane? Um. So Katrina, who lives in Chicago

1726
01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:34,320
Speaker 1: as well, she sent a picture to Kelly this is insane,

1727
01:25:34,360 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 1: like loose Katrina Katrina night one with the pussycat. Oh,

1728
01:25:43,880 --> 01:25:47,800
Speaker 1: I don't start knowing name. Still halfway through she had

1729
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,320
Speaker 1: taken a picture like a selfie sitting on the river

1730
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: walk this is crazy, and then in the background it's

1731
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 1: the three. It was the three of us with Dustin

1732
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:57,559
Speaker 1: as well. You could tell what we were wearing if

1733
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:00,360
Speaker 1: you compare to other pictures, and we're like, this is insane.

1734
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:03,960
Speaker 1: You can't go the leaka one who I thought looked

1735
01:26:03,960 --> 01:26:07,559
Speaker 1: like me and a Dobrev Right, who's that? I thought

1736
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,280
Speaker 1: she looked like some actress when I think that was her?

1737
01:26:12,000 --> 01:26:16,560
Speaker 1: Okay she was she was at woman tell all? Okay,

1738
01:26:14,360 --> 01:26:21,800
Speaker 1: ye how was that? Woman's all? Definitely I'm sorry, I

1739
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,680
Speaker 1: would say, well, we'll see you are on Paradise, but

1740
01:26:23,760 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: who knows if Paradise is even moving forward? Yeah, well, okay,

1741
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:30,320
Speaker 1: let me ask you this, because Kelly Peter's being very

1742
01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,040
Speaker 1: quoit about where your relationship stands these days. If Paradise

1743
01:26:34,040 --> 01:26:39,120
Speaker 1: happens and you get asked, would you go, yeah, I don't.

1744
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:44,559
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm made for these shows affect it.

1745
01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 1: They're amazing. It was an experience, but I don't know.

1746
01:26:49,080 --> 01:26:52,360
Speaker 1: I don't know how much of the future I have them. Well,

1747
01:26:52,360 --> 01:26:55,320
Speaker 1: what about friends, because like I remember, coming on, I

1748
01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:58,120
Speaker 1: was like, I'm gonna stick to myself. I'm the oldest

1749
01:26:58,120 --> 01:27:00,360
Speaker 1: one in the house. I'm just gonna read my book books,

1750
01:27:00,360 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 1: go on these dates, do my thing. And I was

1751
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,720
Speaker 1: pleasantly surprised that I have friends on the show and

1752
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,800
Speaker 1: that I know will be friends forever. Was that the

1753
01:27:08,840 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 1: same experience you had? And if so, who are you

1754
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:15,479
Speaker 1: close to? Yeah? Coming coming off the show, it's funny

1755
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,000
Speaker 1: because when you're on the show and off the show,

1756
01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:20,760
Speaker 1: you you gravitate towards other people. But yeah, I talked

1757
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:25,479
Speaker 1: to like McKenna and Kelsey every day, um and throughout

1758
01:27:25,680 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 1: throughout the whole you know of it airing back, you

1759
01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 1: kind of just gravitate towards what episode is going on

1760
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 1: and who you're with on that group date or what

1761
01:27:33,840 --> 01:27:36,880
Speaker 1: happened there, you know. Um, but I'm friends with with

1762
01:27:36,920 --> 01:27:38,960
Speaker 1: all the girls. I don't have any beef with any

1763
01:27:38,960 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 1: of them. Um. Yeah, Kelsey and mckennare are the ones

1764
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: that day keep in contact with a lot. Well, my

1765
01:27:45,640 --> 01:27:49,559
Speaker 1: forever favorite moment of you will be laying back on

1766
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:53,080
Speaker 1: that bench with that foot up twirling. I said, Kelly

1767
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:56,400
Speaker 1: is an entire mood that is me. I was, like,

1768
01:27:56,479 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: I have Kelly, Kelly is me crazy? I tell him

1769
01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: all the time, like I've listened to y'all's podcasts, and

1770
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:06,360
Speaker 1: the way that you think is very similar to mine,

1771
01:28:07,160 --> 01:28:09,280
Speaker 1: Like everything you usually say. I was like, spun on

1772
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 1: s fun on, Like I get it, I get it.

1773
01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:12,160
Speaker 1: And I keep telling him that. I was like, just

1774
01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,760
Speaker 1: the way that she thinks like is incredible, Like I'm so,

1775
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: I'm literally jealous because you can tell you're you're super

1776
01:28:18,920 --> 01:28:22,360
Speaker 1: intelligent with everything you say. And thank you fut on

1777
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:25,720
Speaker 1: for I don't know everything. It's you know, you know,

1778
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: law school is like it teaches you a certain way

1779
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,680
Speaker 1: to think more than anything else. But it's nice to

1780
01:28:30,720 --> 01:28:33,880
Speaker 1: hear it's appreciated because it's not appreciated by most. I

1781
01:28:33,960 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: always say our podcast is a logical like, it's not

1782
01:28:37,080 --> 01:28:39,600
Speaker 1: for the hopeless romantics. You know, we're here to just

1783
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 1: like have a discussion and to talk things out, and

1784
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 1: not everybody wants to hear that. And there are other

1785
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: podcasts you can go to for that. Kelly, I will

1786
01:28:48,160 --> 01:28:51,240
Speaker 1: say you watching you and Rache and I have loved

1787
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,000
Speaker 1: you the entire season. You were one of our favorites

1788
01:28:53,000 --> 01:28:55,160
Speaker 1: because you're just a breath of fresh air, because you

1789
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:58,559
Speaker 1: are logical, you are intelligent, you speak your mind, you

1790
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,880
Speaker 1: are very articulate, but rich. I'm gonna disagree, and I'm

1791
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,679
Speaker 1: gonna say the best moment of Kelly on the season

1792
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 1: was when you were the aboiler. Yeah, yes, that moment.

1793
01:29:09,840 --> 01:29:14,840
Speaker 1: You're right, You're right, Becca, That was I knew I

1794
01:29:14,880 --> 01:29:16,800
Speaker 1: liked it before, but watching you was the aboiler, I

1795
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,800
Speaker 1: was like, God, she's good. And then when and when

1796
01:29:19,800 --> 01:29:21,880
Speaker 1: she and then when she like changed the script up though,

1797
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:23,880
Speaker 1: because like that she wasn't the script and it was

1798
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:25,640
Speaker 1: just like, pought me off guard while we're filming ou,

1799
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,480
Speaker 1: I'm like, what it was like, let's go, oh, quarantine,

1800
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: can you like, play act and do another telenovela together.

1801
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:36,160
Speaker 1: That's what you should do. Yeah, we didn't give them

1802
01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,320
Speaker 1: the tiktoks. We don't have when it takes that TikTok,

1803
01:29:38,360 --> 01:29:42,839
Speaker 1: but we can get listen. I am an anti TikTok person.

1804
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:46,439
Speaker 1: Becca just joined. I can't get it. I would I

1805
01:29:46,439 --> 01:29:48,519
Speaker 1: would be worse than you, So kudos to you for

1806
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:53,280
Speaker 1: doing it. I can't. Kelly. Have you been on any

1807
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 1: of the other podcasts? Did you do Nick or Kaylin's

1808
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 1: or are we the first? No? She she was with

1809
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:03,639
Speaker 1: Kaitlin and Ben Okay, can you tell can you guys

1810
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: tell us like one thing that you didn't tell them,

1811
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:09,840
Speaker 1: like some juicy detail, some juicy d give us, like

1812
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,360
Speaker 1: give us something good that we can run with here,

1813
01:30:13,360 --> 01:30:19,439
Speaker 1: an exclusive, an exclusive? Kind of boring? Kelly, have you

1814
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: seen Peter in the shower during this quarantine? Is Peter

1815
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 1: better in real life or on the show? Oh my god,

1816
01:30:33,160 --> 01:30:39,320
Speaker 1: in real life better? I think pick up for him.

1817
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:40,880
Speaker 1: I was like, some parts of him that you saw

1818
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: were like necessarily him. But I even used to say

1819
01:30:44,280 --> 01:30:46,120
Speaker 1: on the show, I was like, there's Peter Webber and

1820
01:30:46,120 --> 01:30:49,280
Speaker 1: then there's Bachelor, the Peter or the bachelor, Peter, and

1821
01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 1: you know they're big. You stop saying that, And I

1822
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,960
Speaker 1: was like, no, true, I met him outside of this

1823
01:30:54,280 --> 01:30:57,240
Speaker 1: and he's so much cooler than he is on Peter,

1824
01:30:58,080 --> 01:31:01,080
Speaker 1: you are cool. Well we did see on the show.

1825
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:04,400
Speaker 1: I guess I'd rather have it that way than vice versus.

1826
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,400
Speaker 1: So thank you. No, absolutely, So you feel like if

1827
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: you met Peter, well you did meet him in real

1828
01:31:09,920 --> 01:31:12,400
Speaker 1: life before, but like you guys could hit it off,

1829
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:17,400
Speaker 1: Oh for sure, Yeah, I think though, yeah, it's definitely

1830
01:31:17,439 --> 01:31:20,200
Speaker 1: a it's yes, it's a compliment taken. It's a fine

1831
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 1: line to try to be both the same person you

1832
01:31:22,520 --> 01:31:24,719
Speaker 1: see on TV is the same person you are in person,

1833
01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:27,639
Speaker 1: so right, you know, I know, yeah, Well, and that's

1834
01:31:27,640 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 1: the thing I think as leads, there's so much that

1835
01:31:29,640 --> 01:31:32,840
Speaker 1: happens that can't be portrayed on TV, and so I

1836
01:31:32,840 --> 01:31:35,360
Speaker 1: think for everyone, anyone who's ever been on the show,

1837
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:38,439
Speaker 1: there's so much more. People are way funnier or more

1838
01:31:38,560 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: charismatic than what they come across. And Peter, I mean,

1839
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: I've met you now a few times in person, and

1840
01:31:44,840 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 1: like you really are just this very warm, bighearted, like

1841
01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: fun charismatic guy that that I think we saw a

1842
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 1: good part of it on the show. But I think

1843
01:31:55,479 --> 01:31:58,360
Speaker 1: that they're so much more and so, you know, regardless

1844
01:31:58,360 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 1: of what happened throughout the entire season and it didn't

1845
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:03,760
Speaker 1: pan out, I'm sure as anyone had expected. Um, I

1846
01:32:03,800 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 1: think you are on your own path and I'm so

1847
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: happy you were are a bautchelo, I really am. Yeah,

1848
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:10,880
Speaker 1: you seem happy. Like we've talked to you a couple

1849
01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:14,800
Speaker 1: of times in studio. You're different, You're different. Thanks Kelly.

1850
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:19,880
Speaker 1: Thanks Kelly, she's been amazing. How many times have you

1851
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:27,640
Speaker 1: FaceTime Barb. Yeah, she's obsessed with Sophie Dustin's dogs and

1852
01:32:27,640 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 1: she's always calling, Hey, let me see Sophie, let me

1853
01:32:29,280 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 1: see Sophie, let me see Chop Chop. So that's that's Kelly,

1854
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:35,800
Speaker 1: Chop Chop. We heard about Chop chopped up? All right, Well, Kelly,

1855
01:32:35,840 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 1: we're so happy you popped into this. Thank you boys.

1856
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:43,719
Speaker 1: Thanks Kelly. We hope to see more at you. Um

1857
01:32:44,040 --> 01:32:47,280
Speaker 1: So Peter, as I just said, you know, there's obviously

1858
01:32:47,360 --> 01:32:51,200
Speaker 1: so much more than than what anyone can ever see

1859
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:54,320
Speaker 1: on the TV show. Um. And when people say like

1860
01:32:54,479 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 1: they thought the ending was staged and the finale was staged,

1861
01:32:57,320 --> 01:33:00,519
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because like we and we met

1862
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,840
Speaker 1: with you in the studio before the season started. We

1863
01:33:03,880 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 1: asked you, like, what are you hoping from this? Like

1864
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:07,920
Speaker 1: what do you want to be known for? And you

1865
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 1: were like, I don't want to be known for a

1866
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 1: windmill or an inanimate object, like I want to be

1867
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:16,000
Speaker 1: known for having the best love story. And unfortunately, for

1868
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,479
Speaker 1: your time on the show itself, that didn't happen. Like, yes,

1869
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,400
Speaker 1: you fell in love with a couple of girls, you

1870
01:33:21,439 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 1: were engaged, it didn't pan out with either of them,

1871
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,040
Speaker 1: and I don't think that's anything you expected going into it.

1872
01:33:27,080 --> 01:33:29,439
Speaker 1: I don't think you could have foreseen any of what

1873
01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: went down. So that's why like watching it, I'm like, dude, like,

1874
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:35,599
Speaker 1: no offense, but this really sucks, Like all he wanted

1875
01:33:36,120 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 1: was to share his heart and to share this love

1876
01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,840
Speaker 1: story with the world. And so you know, you're making

1877
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:44,519
Speaker 1: your own story now away from the TV. We don't

1878
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:48,160
Speaker 1: know what's going to necessarily happen with Kelly. But going

1879
01:33:48,240 --> 01:33:50,479
Speaker 1: back to your time, obviously it didn't pan out as

1880
01:33:50,520 --> 01:33:53,400
Speaker 1: you thought. But I'm sure we all have regrets going

1881
01:33:53,439 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: through it at moments. But what was your biggest regret

1882
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:01,280
Speaker 1: and biggest takeaway from being the lead. My biggest regret

1883
01:34:01,439 --> 01:34:03,760
Speaker 1: I think was and it for me, it's so tough

1884
01:34:03,800 --> 01:34:07,519
Speaker 1: to like kind of admit or be okay with because

1885
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 1: like I know the kind of person that I am,

1886
01:34:09,240 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, I can't change

1887
01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:16,200
Speaker 1: myself to like be different. But the one thing that

1888
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,320
Speaker 1: kind of sucked the most, I think was me just

1889
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,639
Speaker 1: being a little bit too empathetic throughout the entire process

1890
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,880
Speaker 1: and not putting my foot down in certain situations. And

1891
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 1: I guess do it. If I could have done it again,

1892
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,559
Speaker 1: like I had a second chance, I could have tried

1893
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: a little bit harder. But at the end of the day,

1894
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:33,639
Speaker 1: I am who I am, And so it's like it's

1895
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,200
Speaker 1: a regret, but it's like something I regret that I

1896
01:34:35,200 --> 01:34:37,439
Speaker 1: would I would continue to keep making because that's just

1897
01:34:37,479 --> 01:34:39,640
Speaker 1: the person I am. And maybe that's this kind of

1898
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 1: process wasn't ideal for me being on this side, as

1899
01:34:43,320 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: you know, the Bachelor, but that's who I am, and

1900
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:49,800
Speaker 1: I can't change who I am. And in regards like

1901
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: what you said about you know, yeah, I remember saying that,

1902
01:34:52,240 --> 01:34:54,280
Speaker 1: like I didn't want, I didn't care about any drama

1903
01:34:54,280 --> 01:34:56,080
Speaker 1: of being remembered for this or that I wanted to

1904
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,560
Speaker 1: give people because I've been such the hopeless romantic. The

1905
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,519
Speaker 1: romantic like that's where they could live vicariously through and

1906
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,599
Speaker 1: like inspire them to like never settle and like look

1907
01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,800
Speaker 1: for hopefully what I was going to go fine, But

1908
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:11,360
Speaker 1: even though it didn't work out that way, I still

1909
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:14,320
Speaker 1: I hope that it can inspire people just kind of

1910
01:35:14,360 --> 01:35:17,640
Speaker 1: seeing me now and where I'm at. And I've always said, like,

1911
01:35:17,800 --> 01:35:20,519
Speaker 1: I'm not a hopeless romantic. I don't like the word

1912
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:23,200
Speaker 1: hopeless because I'm the kind of romantic that never loses

1913
01:35:23,240 --> 01:35:25,200
Speaker 1: hope that you know what, that didn't work and that

1914
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:26,600
Speaker 1: didn't work, and there was so much should I had

1915
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 1: to go through with that, But guess what, I'm still

1916
01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 1: having that mindset that, you know, the next person is

1917
01:35:30,600 --> 01:35:33,400
Speaker 1: going to be my girl, And if I can still

1918
01:35:33,400 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: feel that way after what it has went through, hopefully

1919
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: that can in a different way inspire people in a

1920
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:39,559
Speaker 1: way I didn't think was possibly going to at the

1921
01:35:39,560 --> 01:35:43,479
Speaker 1: beginning of the season. Ye Peter very well said, so,

1922
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,160
Speaker 1: I have one last question for you, being that this

1923
01:35:46,240 --> 01:35:48,840
Speaker 1: is kind of like a redemption podcast for you and

1924
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:53,920
Speaker 1: a ring right just imbost failed down a lot going

1925
01:35:53,960 --> 01:35:57,400
Speaker 1: on in this closet, saying that this is a redemption

1926
01:35:57,439 --> 01:35:59,519
Speaker 1: podcast for you. And we started out at the beginning

1927
01:35:59,560 --> 01:36:02,559
Speaker 1: asking you about the coronavirus. I want to ask you

1928
01:36:02,640 --> 01:36:07,120
Speaker 1: this last question. It's interesting you say empathy because I

1929
01:36:07,160 --> 01:36:09,880
Speaker 1: think a lot of people would have labeled that that

1930
01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:12,479
Speaker 1: you were indecisive. So that's why I think what you

1931
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 1: said is very powerful, because it's like, Okay, I actually

1932
01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: can see that, I can see how you were being

1933
01:36:16,640 --> 01:36:19,280
Speaker 1: very empathetic, but a lot of people have labeled you

1934
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: as indecisive. A lot of people have had opinions on

1935
01:36:23,560 --> 01:36:27,280
Speaker 1: you one way or another for various reasons, kind of

1936
01:36:27,320 --> 01:36:29,840
Speaker 1: as if I don't want to use certain words, but

1937
01:36:29,880 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 1: basically is if you don't make your own decisions, and

1938
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:35,559
Speaker 1: I'm going outside of even them saying because of your mom,

1939
01:36:35,680 --> 01:36:37,120
Speaker 1: just a lot of people have had a lot to

1940
01:36:37,160 --> 01:36:40,000
Speaker 1: say about you that I don't necessarily agree with. Beca

1941
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:41,840
Speaker 1: and I have had the chance to get to know

1942
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 1: you off of the podcast. You're a great guy. Your

1943
01:36:44,920 --> 01:36:48,959
Speaker 1: character's outstanding. I mean, like, you send us a voicemail

1944
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:50,920
Speaker 1: the other day and I turned to Brian, I was like,

1945
01:36:51,520 --> 01:36:53,680
Speaker 1: you couldn't be mad at Peter if you tried, you

1946
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:57,920
Speaker 1: just couldn't. He's just such a good person. But I

1947
01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,160
Speaker 1: feel defensive of you. And I've said this before, is

1948
01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:02,240
Speaker 1: I feel like people have a lot to say about you.

1949
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,080
Speaker 1: So I just kind of want to give you the

1950
01:37:04,120 --> 01:37:06,720
Speaker 1: opportunity and give you the floor like Becca did at

1951
01:37:06,720 --> 01:37:09,640
Speaker 1: the beginning of this podcast, to just address it. The

1952
01:37:09,720 --> 01:37:11,920
Speaker 1: people who have the stuff to say about you, and

1953
01:37:11,960 --> 01:37:14,840
Speaker 1: that like you can't make your own decisions and you're indecisive.

1954
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,320
Speaker 1: What do you have to say about that? Uh? You know,

1955
01:37:18,439 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 1: and yeah, I've heard that. It's ton and listen, I'll

1956
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:24,559
Speaker 1: admit to a lot of it. I was indecisive in

1957
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,720
Speaker 1: regards a lot of situations. But and I'm okay with

1958
01:37:26,760 --> 01:37:29,320
Speaker 1: that because that, to me was just showing how how

1959
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 1: well this did work for me, and it was working

1960
01:37:31,680 --> 01:37:33,920
Speaker 1: for me. You know, I didn't want to fall from

1961
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: multiple women. I didn't want to have to have these

1962
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:39,160
Speaker 1: crazy confusion you know days, these weeks I had to

1963
01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:42,240
Speaker 1: deal with, but I did. And so you know, I

1964
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:44,559
Speaker 1: look the way I look at it, it's like I

1965
01:37:44,600 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: wasn't indecisive. That probably be a little bit weird because

1966
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: maybe it wasn't working as well as maybe maybe it's

1967
01:37:51,040 --> 01:37:53,000
Speaker 1: the wrong opinion. But that's honestly that that's that's how

1968
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,600
Speaker 1: I look at it, um, you know, in regards to

1969
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,559
Speaker 1: being like empathetic and like, I know, there's a lot

1970
01:37:57,600 --> 01:38:00,479
Speaker 1: of relationships why people like didn't understand why I was

1971
01:38:00,520 --> 01:38:03,680
Speaker 1: like maybe possibly giving that person so many chances or um,

1972
01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, not seeing the red flags right away or whatnot.

1973
01:38:06,439 --> 01:38:09,400
Speaker 1: And you know, and I'll specifically say, like one with

1974
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,000
Speaker 1: like Victoria, if I know, I got a lot of

1975
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:15,240
Speaker 1: like backlash on that relationship, like me going into this

1976
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,880
Speaker 1: and like I've always been such a proponent for grace

1977
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: and like in a relationship that's so important also to

1978
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,160
Speaker 1: be able to give one of the most beautiful gifts

1979
01:38:23,200 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: you can give. The definition of grace is like is

1980
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:33,400
Speaker 1: unwarranted us undeserved forgiveness and like, so that's how that

1981
01:38:33,479 --> 01:38:35,360
Speaker 1: was my mindset, And a lot of these relationships that

1982
01:38:35,400 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: people didn't get why I was doing what I was

1983
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:40,200
Speaker 1: doing or whatnot. Like I always trying to practice that

1984
01:38:40,360 --> 01:38:43,680
Speaker 1: and like, you know, not just preach it, but practice it. Um,

1985
01:38:43,720 --> 01:38:46,080
Speaker 1: So listen, that's still though, doesn't I made a ton

1986
01:38:46,120 --> 01:38:48,599
Speaker 1: of mistakes. I fess up to that over and over.

1987
01:38:48,640 --> 01:38:51,000
Speaker 1: The biggest one and the one that I hurt. My

1988
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:54,559
Speaker 1: biggest regret I take back was you know, putting hand

1989
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,080
Speaker 1: and what I put her through and like that to me,

1990
01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, is something that I will forever feel horrible

1991
01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:04,120
Speaker 1: about because I just care for her so much. But

1992
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,160
Speaker 1: you know, through all that, I do feel like she's

1993
01:39:10,200 --> 01:39:12,200
Speaker 1: going to be Madison's going to be all the other

1994
01:39:12,240 --> 01:39:16,240
Speaker 1: women myself, like we are gonna still forever be grateful

1995
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: for this experience we share together. And you know, I

1996
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:22,519
Speaker 1: never for sure we'll ever regret being the Bachelor, that's

1997
01:39:22,560 --> 01:39:25,759
Speaker 1: for sure. Just the experience I had, the lessons I learned,

1998
01:39:25,920 --> 01:39:27,280
Speaker 1: I'll take with me for the rest of our lives.

1999
01:39:27,320 --> 01:39:30,120
Speaker 1: So well, that's great, and luckily Bachelination has a short

2000
01:39:30,200 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 1: term memory. So that's what I hear. But there's no

2001
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:36,000
Speaker 1: other show being a film right now? The attention all yeah,

2002
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:39,720
Speaker 1: you really are? You really are getting the short end

2003
01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:42,840
Speaker 1: of the stick here, because yeah, no one, I mean

2004
01:39:42,920 --> 01:39:44,800
Speaker 1: until Listen to Your Heart starts, no one's going to

2005
01:39:44,880 --> 01:39:46,840
Speaker 1: be able to talk about another show. So Peter, one

2006
01:39:46,960 --> 01:39:50,360
Speaker 1: last question before we let you get going here. The

2007
01:39:50,479 --> 01:39:52,880
Speaker 1: entire season, I think it can be said, and Rachel

2008
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:54,759
Speaker 1: and I have said this to like what does Peter want?

2009
01:39:54,800 --> 01:39:58,040
Speaker 1: What do you want? It might have been different going

2010
01:39:58,120 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 1: into the season than it is now, But what ultimately

2011
01:40:01,000 --> 01:40:03,479
Speaker 1: do you want in a partner? What are you looking

2012
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: for that's really going to fill you at the end

2013
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:11,439
Speaker 1: of the day. I want someone that, listen, all, I

2014
01:40:11,439 --> 01:40:12,960
Speaker 1: still want a lot of the same things I wanted

2015
01:40:12,960 --> 01:40:18,880
Speaker 1: from the beginning of the show, but someone that you know,

2016
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 1: really just gets me for who I am and it

2017
01:40:22,760 --> 01:40:24,360
Speaker 1: is never going to try to have me change in

2018
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:26,840
Speaker 1: any way, even if they think it might be a

2019
01:40:26,840 --> 01:40:29,880
Speaker 1: weakness in me. It's something they appreciate about me. And

2020
01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,760
Speaker 1: you know, someone that I do feel like we can

2021
01:40:32,760 --> 01:40:34,759
Speaker 1: really challenge each other. And that's not to be negative

2022
01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 1: or like, oh he needs to have a problem or

2023
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:37,680
Speaker 1: an issue or he needs the drama. That's not what

2024
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,759
Speaker 1: it is. But someone that really just you both challenge

2025
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:44,760
Speaker 1: each other really well. And you know, I've had the

2026
01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to just to see and date a lot of

2027
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 1: different personalities in different women obviously in the last two months,

2028
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:51,960
Speaker 1: and like, so I see a lot of what I

2029
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,080
Speaker 1: like and what I don't like now, and so I'm

2030
01:40:54,080 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 1: going to use that for sure moving forward. And you know,

2031
01:40:58,320 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, just someone that just

2032
01:41:00,040 --> 01:41:03,280
Speaker 1: makes me happy, and um, I can make them happy.

2033
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:06,160
Speaker 1: And it's nothing really much more complicated than that. UM,

2034
01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:09,640
Speaker 1: And I know that's that's gonna happen for me. We

2035
01:41:09,720 --> 01:41:11,920
Speaker 1: know it will, and we'll be watching, We will be

2036
01:41:11,920 --> 01:41:19,960
Speaker 1: watching and hopefully well, Peter, we loved having you on.

2037
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,120
Speaker 1: I mean we said it before, but we're always going

2038
01:41:22,200 --> 01:41:24,559
Speaker 1: to root for your happiness. We're always gonna want you

2039
01:41:25,360 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 1: to find love because, like I said, you have such

2040
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,040
Speaker 1: a big heart and we've seen that and so I

2041
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:32,120
Speaker 1: really want you at the end of the day to

2042
01:41:32,200 --> 01:41:34,600
Speaker 1: hopefully find what you're looking for. Um. You know, we

2043
01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 1: all go through these crazy ups and downs, especially being

2044
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,200
Speaker 1: from the show. UM, but it seems like you did

2045
01:41:40,280 --> 01:41:42,120
Speaker 1: learn a lot and took a lot. So we're always

2046
01:41:42,120 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: going to be your biggest supporters here, um, because we can.

2047
01:41:45,080 --> 01:41:47,360
Speaker 1: Really it's it's a crazy world that you've gotten yourself

2048
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:50,160
Speaker 1: into and you're part of it now you're stuck with us, um,

2049
01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,600
Speaker 1: but we're happy that we can all be in it together. No,

2050
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,640
Speaker 1: I love you both so much and I thank you

2051
01:41:55,640 --> 01:41:57,800
Speaker 1: for everything, just always being there for me, and you know,

2052
01:41:57,840 --> 01:41:59,880
Speaker 1: the whole whole ways of thank you. Oh, Peter, and

2053
01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,760
Speaker 1: one thing too, I should say, um, my mom was

2054
01:42:02,840 --> 01:42:06,479
Speaker 1: actually asking for your mom's number because my mom, My

2055
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:09,160
Speaker 1: mom struggled a lot while I was gone on the show,

2056
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:13,080
Speaker 1: just because she she couldn't really talk to me, you know. Um,

2057
01:42:13,360 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 1: so she she wants, she was joking the other day,

2058
01:42:15,479 --> 01:42:18,639
Speaker 1: she wants to start like a support group of bachelor parents.

2059
01:42:18,680 --> 01:42:20,240
Speaker 1: So I think she actually reached out to your mom

2060
01:42:20,280 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: on Instagram, so hopefully they can chat aside. Um. Yeah,

2061
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:27,559
Speaker 1: but when all this quarantine is said and done, we're

2062
01:42:27,560 --> 01:42:33,040
Speaker 1: all coming over and bringing my mom for some Cuban food. Okay, yeah,

2063
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,120
Speaker 1: I fire it up. No, for sure she's gonna love that.

2064
01:42:38,240 --> 01:42:40,720
Speaker 1: So I can't wait. Thanks Peter so much for doing this.

2065
01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:42,599
Speaker 1: Hopefully this is it for you. Now you can live

2066
01:42:42,600 --> 01:42:46,800
Speaker 1: your life. That's all right, you just do you. Thank

2067
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 1: you so much for giving us your time. Thank Kelly,

2068
01:42:49,080 --> 01:42:52,320
Speaker 1: and tell Dustin what's up to m hugs? All right,

2069
01:42:52,360 --> 01:42:55,040
Speaker 1: Love you guys, Love to by Peter. You know. It's

2070
01:42:55,080 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 1: so I'm really glad we talked to Peter Becca, because

2071
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:00,559
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, I was a little indifferent about doing

2072
01:43:00,600 --> 01:43:02,880
Speaker 1: an interview because I thought, Okay, are we just going

2073
01:43:02,920 --> 01:43:06,240
Speaker 1: to be rehashing the same things over and over again.

2074
01:43:06,800 --> 01:43:08,880
Speaker 1: Is this just gonna be? You know, I don't know.

2075
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,760
Speaker 1: I just didn't think that. I know our listeners wanted it,

2076
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:13,680
Speaker 1: but I just wasn't sure how the podcast would go.

2077
01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:17,400
Speaker 1: And I am so glad we did it. I thought

2078
01:43:17,400 --> 01:43:21,000
Speaker 1: that Peter is a new Peter. Dare I say it?

2079
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:25,200
Speaker 1: I think people will be surprised, pleasantly surprised at what

2080
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:28,240
Speaker 1: they heard Peter say and where he is and where

2081
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,479
Speaker 1: he was coming from. And I honestly think he's in

2082
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: a headspace now to clearly talk about it without being

2083
01:43:34,120 --> 01:43:37,799
Speaker 1: biased or too emotional from what had happened before. I agree.

2084
01:43:37,880 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 1: I think a little time and space and distance always helps,

2085
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,519
Speaker 1: and even for me. I mean, we were supposed to

2086
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:47,599
Speaker 1: speak to him right after the finale, and I personally,

2087
01:43:48,040 --> 01:43:50,639
Speaker 1: I think in that moment I would have come at

2088
01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 1: the interview as like a scorned woman because I could

2089
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:56,840
Speaker 1: relate with him Anne and I was in that mindset.

2090
01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,960
Speaker 1: And so it's good to now have a little distance

2091
01:44:00,200 --> 01:44:03,240
Speaker 1: from everything that went down. We've seen Peter kind of

2092
01:44:03,280 --> 01:44:05,920
Speaker 1: move on from his season with Kelly, We've seen the

2093
01:44:05,960 --> 01:44:08,640
Speaker 1: girls kind of move on, and so I think it

2094
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:11,360
Speaker 1: helps to shape the conversation a little bit better. And

2095
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: as you said, Peter now has some space, he has

2096
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,280
Speaker 1: some clarity. He can come at this and finally really

2097
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 1: say what he wants to say and what he wants

2098
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:20,759
Speaker 1: to get off of his chest. So I'm so happy

2099
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Speaker 1: we finally spoke with him. Yeah, plus we got Kelly. Now,

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Speaker 1: if we had done this interview right after the finale,

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Speaker 1: we never would have gone Kelly. So thank you for that.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for Kelly for making a guest appearance on

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Speaker 1: Bachelor Happy Hours. So glad we finally got you. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it was a good one, guys, but we have to

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Speaker 1: start leaving him alone because a new show is coming

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Speaker 1: up starting this Monday. We have Listened to Your Heart,

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Speaker 1: which we have to look forward to and I cannot wait.

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Speaker 1: But Bachelor Happy Hour listeners, you can actually get our

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Speaker 1: first interviews on the show. We have a new podcast

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Speaker 1: dropping this Friday where you can get our take on

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Speaker 1: what's to come and listen to your Heart. That's right,

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Speaker 1: we are the official podcast, which means we are dropping

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Speaker 1: things first, So you're welcome. For Peter, that is over

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Speaker 1: and done with, We're entering a new season. Listen to

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Speaker 1: your Heart, so excited. April thirteenth, eight seven Central. We've

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Speaker 1: got two contestants coming up on the show. It's going

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Speaker 1: to be so good and you're only going to hear

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Speaker 1: them here on Bachelor Happy Hour. So thank you guys

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Speaker 1: so much for tuning in. You know, we love diving

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Speaker 1: into all things Bachelor with you every single week on

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour. We're hoping that we're providing you some normalcy

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Speaker 1: during these really trying times right now. We hope that

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Speaker 1: you're safe, healthy. We thank you so much for coming

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Speaker 1: in or tuning in to Bachelor Happy Hour, and another

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Speaker 1: wild season of The Bachelor is finally in the books.

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Speaker 1: I cannot wait. And now, listeners, we always love to

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Speaker 1: hear from you. If you ever have praises or comments

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Speaker 1: or questions, please send them our way. You can always

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Speaker 1: email us at happy Hour at Bachelnation dot com. Also

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Speaker 1: head to Batchelornation dot com to get the latest and

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Speaker 1: greatest details about the show and everything that's coming up.

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Speaker 1: We are, of course the first place to announce everything

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Speaker 1: coming in the weeks to come.