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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema. Rewind. This is Rob Lamb.

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Speaker 2: And this is Joe McCormick. Rob and I are out

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Speaker 2: this week, so we are bringing you an older episode

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Speaker 2: of Weird House Cinema. This was our feature on The

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Speaker 2: Abominable Doctor Fibes. I think one of my favorites. We've

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Speaker 2: done an excellent weird outing of Vincent Price. This one

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Speaker 2: originally published on April first, twenty twenty two, but there

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Speaker 2: is nothing April foolish about it. We hope you enjoy.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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Speaker 2: This is Rob Lamb and this is Joe McCormick and wooh,

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Speaker 2: I hope you like organ music because today we're doing

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Speaker 2: Doctor Fibes.

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Speaker 1: That's right, The Abominable Doctor Fibes from nineteen seventy one.

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Speaker 1: This is a film that is frequently described as a

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Speaker 1: dark comedy horror film, which is a It is kind

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Speaker 1: of a way of saying, this movie's weird, and we

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Speaker 1: don't really know how to classify it, you know, because

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Speaker 1: it certainly has Yeah, it has comedic flair in it,

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Speaker 1: it has horror flair, but it's it's ultimately its own unique,

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Speaker 1: weird vision, and it's it's really difficult to compare it

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Speaker 1: one hundred percent to just about anything else.

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Speaker 2: I would almost say it's a musical, though the characters

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's very theatrical. Like in trying to come

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Speaker 1: it's it's kind of Phantom of the Opera meets Batman

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Speaker 2: But also you have to say the words Vincent Price,

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Speaker 2: because I think that is a key element of establishing

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Speaker 2: the themes.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is our first Vincent Price film,

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Speaker 1: and Fibes has been on our list. It's been on

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Speaker 1: our radar for a while, and I know we've heard

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Speaker 1: it came up again recently when I was looking at

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Speaker 1: films that had very well regarded movie scores, and so yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is our first Vincent Price film. Though we did

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Speaker 1: discuss The Tingler from nineteen fifty nine and an old

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Speaker 1: episode of Stuff to Blow Your Mind, but that was

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Speaker 1: pre Weird House. That was more of a like we

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Speaker 1: used The Tingler as a springboard to discuss some science

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Speaker 2: You know. I would say The Tingler is somewhat different

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Speaker 2: because The Tingler is a William Castle movie that has

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Speaker 2: Vincent Price in it. But lots of Vincent Price movies,

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Speaker 2: it almost feels as if it doesn't matter who the

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Speaker 1: It is. And then on the same level, one thing

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Speaker 1: I kept thinking about is, Okay, Vincent Price plays a

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Speaker 1: character in this film that doesn't actually speak with his

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Speaker 1: a it's like a through a machine. And so it's

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Speaker 1: unique to be watching this and you think, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: you know, Vincent Price is is great, like as a

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Speaker 2: Though, even though he doesn't speak with his mouth in

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Speaker 2: the movie, the price hamjuice gits on everything like the

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Speaker 2: to compare it to another great horror movie that I

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Speaker 2: This other movie is called Theater of Blood from nineteen

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Speaker 2: But if you can believe this, listen to all the parallels.

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Speaker 2: Both movies star Vincent Price as a performing artist of

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Speaker 2: of themed murders. And in Doctor Fibes, the themed murders

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Speaker 1: was that this film The Abominable Doctor Fibes. It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like the precursor to such dreary themed murder films

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Speaker 2: This is a weird, elaborate themed murders but just balancing

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Speaker 2: on rays of sunshine. Yes, so, I think Doctor Fibes

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Speaker 2: is one of my new show favorites. It's going on

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Speaker 2: the list with I think some of the best movies

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Speaker 2: we've watched on here Like I don't keep a running

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Speaker 2: it's gotta be like Mad Love, Robot Jocks, Ship of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's extremely watchable. I can easily recommend this

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Speaker 1: transcend genre. It's not just a horror films. It's just

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Speaker 1: so stylish, so lovingly stylish, that I feel like it

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Speaker 1: about any given scene. Even the scenes that don't play

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Speaker 1: take place within Doctor Fib's subterranean organ funhouse are still

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Speaker 1: like lavishly decorated and ingeniously shot.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, let's go ahead and listen to the

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Speaker 4: Lovely music for a murder or two or three or nine?

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Speaker 4: Who is Ladies and gentlemen, I want you to meet

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Speaker 4: your dear friend. Nine killed you, nine shall die your wife.

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Speaker 1: No FIBs but you I will kill But you can't.

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Speaker 4: Doctor, I am already dead. Will wats up the guitar?

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Speaker 1: The ten Cousins visited among the Pharaohs before Exodus.

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Speaker 4: Are you ready for Doctor Five?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about some of the people involved

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Speaker 1: in this motion picture. First of all, let's start at

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Speaker 1: the top with the director, Robert Foost. Foost lived nineteen

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Speaker 1: some fans out there that he came up through the

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Speaker 1: and Soon The Darkness a thriller, a nineteen seventy adaptation

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Speaker 1: the two Doctor Fibes films, nineteen seventy three's The Final Program,

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Speaker 1: and nineteen seventy five satanic melto Mania movie The Devil's

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Speaker 2: I was wondering if we should come back to The

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Speaker 2: Devil's Rain on Weird House. It is notorious for being

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it has greatness. In it, and I think

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Speaker 1: also it is possible that maybe the world just wasn't

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Speaker 1: after The Devil's Rain. All Right, the writers on this,

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Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six is The Amazing Dobermans, in which quote

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Speaker 2: Imagine the pitch for that. What about Doberman's that solve mysteries?

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Speaker 1: look quite dirty, all right. The star of this film,

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Speaker 1: playing doctor Anton Vibes is Vincent Price, who lived nineteen

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Speaker 1: eleven through nineteen ninety three. The legend himself.

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Speaker 2: God to love them. An actor of great, genuine talent

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Speaker 2: who could have kept pressing just to focus on serious

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Speaker 2: But time life enchanted world commercials. I think he did

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Speaker 1: Yes, where he's dressed like a polar bear. Like. I

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Speaker 1: highly recommend anyone out there just do a like a

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Speaker 1: YouTube search for Vincent Price commercials and you'll get numerous

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Speaker 2: Oh if you find the ones where he's doing wine coolers.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately, I would say the Vincent Price pop culture footprint

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Speaker 1: as much as I love this film, again, it is

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Speaker 1: Roger Corman's Mask of the Red Death is a great

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's true. So that one was actually well regarded

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Speaker 2: by critics when it came out. If you watch it now,

434
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 2: it's you know, like all those Roger Moore movies is

435
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 2: extreme cheesy. I recall that one also being one of

436
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,679
Speaker 2: the ones with the most just evil James Bond in it.

437
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,200
Speaker 2: Like I recall, there's a scene where some assassins trying

438
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 2: to shoot at him, and he's like kissing a woman

439
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 2: and then he literally just turns and uses her as

440
00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 2: a human shield block the bullet from the assassin. I mean,

441
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:22,720
Speaker 2: I think it's implied that she's in on, she's like

442
00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 2: setting a trap for him, but still like, come on, dude,

443
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 2: that's pretty rough. Yeah, so that's a mean Roger Moore

444
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: James Bond though. Yeah, it has some good stuff about it.

445
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 2: The villain in it likes to feed people to sharks

446
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,040
Speaker 2: because of course, or that's the guy he's got like

447
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,000
Speaker 2: a gun under the long table. I think that's also

448
00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 2: the one where it's the first one with Jaws in it,

449
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:46,800
Speaker 2: and Jaws gets thrown to some sharks, but he defeats

450
00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: the sharks by biting them.

451
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: He bites the shark. Yes, okay, see, I mostly remember

452
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,119
Speaker 1: it for Jaws.

453
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right.

454
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 1: Let's talk about the music on this one. The music

455
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: for this film, though a number of differ songs are

456
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: featured in it. The actual scores composed by Basil Kirchen,

457
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: who lived nineteen twenty seven through two thousand and five,

458
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: a British composer and musician responsible for the scores of

459
00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: such films as sixty seven's The Shuttered Room starring Oliver Reed.

460
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 1: This movie the nineteen seventy four movie The Freak Master,

461
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: which I've been tempted to watch for this show. It's

462
00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,840
Speaker 1: kind of a seventies take on Todd Browning's Freaks, and

463
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 1: it has Donald Pleasance, Tom Baker, and Brad Harris in it.

464
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 2: Oh well, I like that cast list, but something about

465
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 2: the idea of a seventies take on freaks does not

466
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: appeal to me.

467
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:38,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, this probably what's kind of held me back. I

468
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 1: know it has I think Tom Baker plays like a giant,

469
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: like a tall mutant character, and there's like a plant

470
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,879
Speaker 1: man in it. So it's got some attractive elements to it,

471
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,160
Speaker 1: plus Donald pleasants. But yeah, I haven't actually watched it yet.

472
00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: I've had it, like you know, in the playlist ready

473
00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: to go Now. Kirchin did not return for Fibes two,

474
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 1: but he's he's pretty interesting. Fellow was looking into him

475
00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,880
Speaker 1: a bit he came up in big band, but then

476
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,439
Speaker 1: he also got into electronic music and experimental music and

477
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: tape manipulation, and so you've had a number of individuals

478
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 1: have pointed to him as an important influence, like Brian

479
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 1: Eno Broadcast. Also Nurse with Wound. That's the project from

480
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: Stephen Stapleton. If you're not familiar with Nurse with Wound,

481
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: it's a kind of an early industrial but also kind

482
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:38,080
Speaker 1: of noise, weird musical project that I have to say,

483
00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:40,239
Speaker 1: I like Nurse with Wound, and then there's a lot

484
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 1: of Nurse with Wound music that I cannot listen to,

485
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: and if you played it for me, I would say,

486
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: I hate that, Please don't play it. But then there's

487
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 1: other stuff that's really solid, So I don't know. If

488
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: you're gonna check something out, I would say check out Thunder,

489
00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 1: Perfect Mind or rock and roll Station. So I think

490
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,359
Speaker 1: the five score kind of reflects some of these elements.

491
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: There's certainly a lot of big band notes as well,

492
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,439
Speaker 1: of course, and then we have all this organ music

493
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: and other tracks that are featured. It gets a little

494
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: noisy and per percussive in places, especially when things are

495
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: getting weird or they want to amp up at tension,

496
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 1: but it didn't really get like Nurse with Wound levels

497
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:18,480
Speaker 1: of strange. But this score is often held up as

498
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: an excellent genre score, though it's again it's kind of

499
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: a unique beast. It's widely available in all formats, though

500
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:27,440
Speaker 1: I think most of the vinyl out there is older.

501
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: I haven't seen any evidence of any like super cool

502
00:28:30,119 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 1: re releases from recent years.

503
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: Though. I would emphasize that the music in this movie

504
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,080
Speaker 2: is a kind of hybrid products because on one level

505
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: you've got this weird score, but then you also have

506
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: a lot of directly diegetic music taking place on the

507
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: screen that's like jazzy big band numbers and old sort

508
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 2: of Kruner standards.

509
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, and finally, since this is such a visually luscious movie,

510
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 1: we have to mention the set designer Brian eat Well,

511
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: who lived nineteen thirty nine through two thousand and seven. Yeah,

512
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: the sets in this movie are just to die for.

513
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: So props to eat Well and everyone else involved in

514
00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 1: creating these weird interiors. He was a British production designer

515
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:14,440
Speaker 1: and art director. He designed the sets for both Doctor

516
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 1: Fib's movies as well. He also served as production designer

517
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: on such films as the nineteen seventy one Australian movie

518
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: Walk About, nineteen seventy three's Godspell, The Three Musketeers and

519
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 1: the Four Musketeers from seventy three and seventy four, nineteen

520
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,680
Speaker 1: seventy six is The Man Who Fell to Earth starring

521
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: David Bowie seventy eight, Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band,

522
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: The Onion Field in seventy nine, and the nineteen eighty

523
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: one Killer Lion movie Savage Harvest.

524
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 2: See seventy three. Guy, I guess there was only one

525
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 2: movie adaptation of Godspell? Is that with Victor Garber?

526
00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah? I assume this is. This is as far as

527
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 1: far as I know, the Godspell. This is the one

528
00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: I've seen, and it does have I can see the

529
00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 1: connection here, Like there's a between this this, this Broadway this,

530
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: you know, this weird Broadway musical brought to life and

531
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,240
Speaker 1: the you know, the visual elements that are in play

532
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: in Godspell, like they compare reasonably well to some of

533
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: the sensibilities we see in Doctor Fibes.

534
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 2: Though Fibes never wears the Superman shirt. No, all right,

535
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: you want to talk about the plot.

536
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,840
Speaker 1: Hello, let's talk about this plot.

537
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: Okay, so it starts very strong. You know, lights come

538
00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 2: up on baroque organ music, and you see a player

539
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: in a hood and cloak. So this black hood, it's

540
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 2: kind of shiny. The cloak almost looks like it is

541
00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 2: wet or oily. Maybe that's just the material. But the

542
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 2: the organ player is sitting at the instrument and then

543
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 2: being like raised up on as if on an elevator.

544
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: Yeah it is this, Yeah, this elevator powered super moody

545
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: organ of the super villain organ playing area. It's like,

546
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's a familiar trope. It's very Phantom of

547
00:31:08,040 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 1: the Opera, but then just played up tremendously. You know,

548
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: the visuals of this are just again just just so luscious.

549
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 2: And then like the movie just starts at maximum WTF,

550
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,880
Speaker 2: like how to describe what comes next? And it's a

551
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: recurring theme. But so the organ player plays while the

552
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 2: credits roll, and then he gets up and he descends

553
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: a staircase and the camera pulls back to reveal what

554
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 2: appears to be a musical ensemble made of embodied humanoid

555
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: automata like the Rock of Fire explosion, like Chuck E

556
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 2: Cheese or Showbiz Pizza but instead of having banjo bears

557
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: and cool rats, they are tuxedo dudes in Michael Meyer's masks,

558
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: and they're all playing tubas and drums and stuff. And

559
00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,560
Speaker 2: then he conducts them as if they were an orchestra.

560
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the the drum informs us what the name

561
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: of this group is. It's Doctor Five's Clockwork Wizards. So

562
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: it's it's already off to a tremendous start, like this

563
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 1: is a film that's so bold and it's stylish weirdness

564
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: that we just kick things off with an extended horror

565
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:21,120
Speaker 1: pipe organ number in this underground nightclub. And then we're

566
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 1: getting no dialogue, no real you know, human faces or

567
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 1: human voices or anything, just like pure performative weirdness.

568
00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 2: Yes, and it commits so hard, like it goes on

569
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: like you're saying, without dialogue for a while. So the

570
00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 2: organist in the in the cloak steps back, and then

571
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 2: there's a whole dance number. Virginia North comes out in

572
00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:44,280
Speaker 2: this amazing I don't know what to call the sugar

573
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: plum fairy costume. Like she's wearing this weird white dress

574
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: with a strange golden vertical crown on her head, and

575
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: they dance together while the while the robots play.

576
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's just it's tremendous, like it just it

577
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: just sucks you absolutely and you're like, it's and it

578
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: works on so many levels, Like it sets the tone

579
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: for a film where it's really hard to have expectations

580
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: about what's going to happen because you're not entirely sure

581
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: what this film's values are. I kept thinking about that.

582
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:21,160
Speaker 1: It ultimately made the the you know, the last twenty

583
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: minutes of the film extra terrifying for me because it's like,

584
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: I don't know what how a film like this ends.

585
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 1: I don't know what it considers a proper ending, because

586
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: it feels like it's from another dimension.

587
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: Can we stop, though and describe the set in this

588
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: room because they will return to it many times throughout

589
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 2: the throughout the movie, I was calling this the total

590
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,800
Speaker 2: party house because of course you have the ensemble there

591
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 2: and and it's it's sort of always a party when

592
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,959
Speaker 2: when the when the autometer playing, but it's it's like

593
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 2: a room with a giant I guess marble floor and

594
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: then uh like balcony levels surrounding it all around, and

595
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,240
Speaker 2: what are some of the things in there, like there's

596
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,560
Speaker 2: a table on one side of the room that has

597
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:09,080
Speaker 2: all of these busts or the upper parts of mannikins.

598
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: I think there are nine of them, each one with

599
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 2: a ceiling lamp hanging over it that I think they're

600
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 2: supposed to be made of wax or something like. We

601
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 2: see them melting later. And the organ is up on

602
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: the stage at one end of the room. The room

603
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:28,399
Speaker 2: is decorated with all these satin curtains and these paintings

604
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: on the columns leading up to the balcony with like

605
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 2: these I don't know what you like, like pharaoh heads

606
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 2: and weird symbols. Yeah, it's a trip, Yeah it is.

607
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,960
Speaker 1: It is a space that, you know, it feels performative.

608
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: It feels like a like a nightclub, but it also

609
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: feels like a temple, and it is kind of like

610
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:52,840
Speaker 1: his temple to holy revenge, a temple to it's to

611
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: his love for his departed wife. Those heads represent each

612
00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: of the victims that he is going to kill, the

613
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: objects of his revenge. So it's yeah, it's it's It

614
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:12,280
Speaker 1: has a real, you know, strong ritualistic and performative vibe

615
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: to it.

616
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: Well, after the dance is over, the guy in the cloak.

617
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 2: He goes to operate a chain pulley, and I guess

618
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,879
Speaker 2: we can refer to these characters because we know who

619
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: they're going to be. This is doctor Fibes Involvania, and

620
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: so he goes to operate a chain pulley in the

621
00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,839
Speaker 2: middle of the room and it lowers something that looks

622
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 2: like a shrouded bird cage into a subfloor basement, and

623
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 2: then Volvania goes down to the subfloor and tends to

624
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 2: she kind of straps it onto I think a trailer

625
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 2: on the back of a car. She straps it down

626
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 2: with a leather belt, and then they get into the

627
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: car and drive away, and we see them driving the

628
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: car and it's the funniest shot. So Volvania is I

629
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 2: don't think that's supposed to be her hair. Maybe it is.

630
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 2: She's got her head is covered in this big ball

631
00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,160
Speaker 2: of fur, and I guess it's supposed to be a

632
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: fur cap.

633
00:35:58,320 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 1: I think so. Yeah.

634
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 2: Meanwhile, Fibes is sitting in the back seat being chauffeured

635
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:05,360
Speaker 2: with just like wearing the black hood and with the

636
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 2: stalking over his face, so he's just you know, faceless terror.

637
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:11,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's worth noting that both of these characters have

638
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 1: so many different costume changes that revenge. They say, revenge

639
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: is a dish Beth serve cold. But that doesn't mean

640
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 1: you can't style it up. That means doesn't mean you

641
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: can't change your cloak frequently, that you can't engage in

642
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: any number of rituals. Yeah, they're heavy into this vengeance game.

643
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 2: So they're headed out somewhere and we cut to a

644
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 2: bedroom we assume is where they're headed. It's the guy

645
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:43,760
Speaker 2: in a lavish bedchamber with I don't know, fancy stuff

646
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:47,200
Speaker 2: all over the walls, like paintings of horses and markers

647
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 2: to indicate this is a rich guy. But then in

648
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: the ceiling above this guy's bed, a skylight in the

649
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: ceiling opens up and we see fibes in Wolvania lowering

650
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,480
Speaker 2: in that bird cage from earlier, and then they retract it.

651
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: They pull it back up with a trapdoor in the

652
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: bottom of the cage hanging open, so it seems they've

653
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: released something into the room. And this is the first

654
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 2: murder of the movie.

655
00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 1: That's right, it's gonna be death by fruit bat, just

656
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: like in the Old Testament.

657
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll get into the biblical accuracy maybe a little bit.

658
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 2: I don't know about that. But so the guy in bed,

659
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 2: he is attacked by bats. They're like bats crawling on

660
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 2: him and he's like h. And then we do the

661
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:33,720
Speaker 2: intro in reverse, the cloaked figure and Volvania. They return home,

662
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 2: they turn off the Michael Meyers rock fire band and

663
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 2: then he descends into the floor playing his organ. But

664
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: the next morning, in the bedroom of the victim, we

665
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,839
Speaker 2: get to see some Butler action. Butler comes in with

666
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 2: eggs on toast and like a bat lands on the

667
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 2: eggs and there are bats everywhere and the guy's face

668
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,280
Speaker 2: we see him laying in bed. It has been fully oatmealified.

669
00:37:57,800 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, death by free bat.

670
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,239
Speaker 2: And then we see the first of a ritual that

671
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 2: will repeat throughout the movie, which is that doctor Fibes

672
00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: back at his party house. He puts a appendant with

673
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:14,400
Speaker 2: a significant looking symbol on it on one of the

674
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 2: heads of the mannequins or the busts on the edge

675
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 2: of the big concert hall room, and then he burns

676
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 2: the face of the bust with a candle. But the

677
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 2: next morning we get to see the police investigating, and

678
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,040
Speaker 2: the police are they're played for comedy in this movie.

679
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,240
Speaker 2: They're all bumbling. One of them says, it's a strange business.

680
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: Tom a man literally shredded to death right in the

681
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 2: heart of London. We find out that the victim was

682
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 2: a medical doctor, and the police noticed something. They noticed

683
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:48,319
Speaker 2: that this vicious fruit bat shredding is similar to the

684
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,120
Speaker 2: recent death of another doctor in town who was killed

685
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: by a swarm of bees in his library, and they say,

686
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 2: almost turning to look at the camera, they say, his

687
00:38:57,640 --> 00:39:01,440
Speaker 2: face looked as if it were covered in boils.

688
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: And that will be important shortly.

689
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:06,240
Speaker 2: So then we go back to the Total party house

690
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: and we see Vincent Price putting on his face. We

691
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 2: don't know what doctor Fib's real face looks like, but

692
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 2: once he does a bunch of stuff to it, he

693
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 2: looks like Vincent Price. And I love this. I love

694
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 2: everything about it. I love the weird sets. I love

695
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,359
Speaker 2: Vincent Price with shaggy ringo hair, and I love how

696
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 2: they make Vincent Price's actual face look like a sagging

697
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:31,919
Speaker 2: rubber mask on his head.

698
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 1: They do, Yeah, they give him this really waxy color,

699
00:39:36,320 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 1: and yeah, they add some other little elements to it.

700
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: And he also, you know, of course it's Vincent Price.

701
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 1: So he has a great mustache but also really nice sideburns.

702
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 2: Yes, but also dark rings under his eyes always.

703
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:52,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, so he looks very, very haunted like. Even though

704
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 1: he's not in pure monster mode right now, he still

705
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,239
Speaker 1: looks kind of monstrous and unnatural.

706
00:39:57,640 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 2: But the movie wastes no time. It is immediately on

707
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,839
Speaker 2: to the next Doctor Murder, so we meet doctor Hargraves again.

708
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:08,840
Speaker 2: He's he's at some swanky party where it's like fancy

709
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 2: people all wearing animal masks of some kind, and Price

710
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 2: is there in a mask. He gives a frog mask

711
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 2: to doctor Hargraves. Doctor Hargraves seems to just accept it

712
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,560
Speaker 2: and Vincent Price helps him put it on. He like

713
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 2: does the catch on it, and Hargraves introduces himself. He says,

714
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 2: I'm a psychiatrist, you know, a headshrinker. But uh oh,

715
00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: this frog mask, it's a it's a track from Saw.

716
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 2: It's like a head crushing action mask where it just

717
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,959
Speaker 2: keeps ratcheting itself tighter. And the doctor staggers around trying

718
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: to get help from a drunken lizard and some oaf

719
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:48,440
Speaker 2: and a pig mask, but there's no way of saving him.

720
00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: He just his head is crushed and he lays there

721
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 2: with the frog mask and blood coming out of it

722
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,520
Speaker 2: while people in horsehead masks and other weird costumes look

723
00:40:58,560 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 2: on in amazement.

724
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: So counting the offscreen death, that's like the third death.

725
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,279
Speaker 2: So three down right, And we get a rundown of

726
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 2: this by the police in the next scene because there's

727
00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 2: a scene at Scotland Yard with cops. They're talking about

728
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 2: how they don't want this story about animal themed doctor

729
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 2: murders to get out to the press. There's something that

730
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 2: characters say multiple times in this movie. They're like, medical

731
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: men die all the time.

732
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean true, is because human beings die all the time,

733
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: but under suspicious circumstances with animal themes. I don't know

734
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: that that's like statistically a thing.

735
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, So Inspector Trout is he's tracking now, He's like,

736
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: wait a minute, bats, bees and frogs, so what's going

737
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,479
Speaker 2: on here? But then it's immediately on to the next

738
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: doctor murder. It's just they're coming thick and fast, and

739
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,240
Speaker 2: the next one is doctor Longstreet. Is this Terry Thomas.

740
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 1: This is Terry Thomas, And it is such a Terry

741
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: Thomas scene.

742
00:41:56,840 --> 00:42:01,560
Speaker 2: So when we first meet him, he's immediately furtively ripping

743
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: into a cylindrical parcel. I think he doesn't want his

744
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: housekeeper to see what he's doing. And he's acting all

745
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:10,839
Speaker 2: sweaty and squirrely, and he appears to What's going on

746
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 2: is that he seems to have received a canister of

747
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: racy film reels from the East and he plans to

748
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: watch them on his rattling projector while absolutely chugging red

749
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: wine tonight, since the housekeeper is going to be out

750
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 2: for the evening. Yeah, and this is the part, so

751
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,439
Speaker 2: we're watching, you know, he puts on his film reel

752
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: and he's watching. It's of like a lady dancing with

753
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 2: a snake.

754
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: Yes, and it's like a belly dancing snake dance kind

755
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 1: of a film, you know, but also a very old film.

756
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,640
Speaker 1: This is not something that well, you know. It brings

757
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 1: me back to the question, I'm not sure exactly what

758
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: when this film is supposed to be taking place. It's

759
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 1: not supposed to take place in the seventies.

760
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 2: No, I think it's supposed to take place in like

761
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 2: the twenties probably.

762
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: Okay, so maybe it is a current film that he

763
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:56,879
Speaker 1: has acquired here.

764
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah, Terry Thomas, he is a dirty chap

765
00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,560
Speaker 2: and he looks a little bit Wingshauser ish. Here he's

766
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: watching inappropriate film reels, chugging red wine out of a

767
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 2: sniffer and like licking his lips so that he's just

768
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 2: being gross.

769
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 1: Yes, it's a great scene.

770
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: But then uh oh, here comes of course, doctor Fibes

771
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 2: and Volvania show up at his house. You know, they

772
00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 2: walk in and he's just kind of like, huh, what's

773
00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:24,879
Speaker 2: going on? And while they sit him down in a chair,

774
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,400
Speaker 2: strap him in and then drain out all of his blood.

775
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:32,799
Speaker 1: Yep, put it in bottles up there on the they're

776
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 1: about the fireplace. I believe we're on a shelf. So

777
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:36,600
Speaker 1: that's four doctors down.

778
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: But this one kind of breaks the animal theme. This

779
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,840
Speaker 2: one is blood. Huh, what's going on? But the police

780
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 2: put together a different pattern. They figure out that all

781
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 2: four of these doctors worked for another doctor named doctor Vesalius,

782
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 2: and this is Joseph Cotton, and so Inspector Trout goes

783
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 2: to his house to meet him and see if he

784
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 2: can make any sense of this, and I like how

785
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 2: when he gets there, Vasilius's teenage son Limb, is very

786
00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,799
Speaker 2: impressed by the presence of Scotland yard. Yes, and Vasilius's

787
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:08,720
Speaker 2: house looks like a hair salon.

788
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so stylish, so stylish. There's like, you know,

789
00:44:12,840 --> 00:44:16,680
Speaker 1: African masks on the wall. There's this like satyr statue

790
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:17,920
Speaker 1: with a light above.

791
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: It, shiny surfaces everywhere, potted plants, mirrors on the walls,

792
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: and a lot of fancy chairs just lined up along

793
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 2: the walls. Does his house have a waiting room? I

794
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,760
Speaker 2: don't know. But doctor Vesalius we see is a model

795
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,359
Speaker 2: train guy. Rails and train cars are scattered all over

796
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: the floor. When Trout shows up and Trout fills him in,

797
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 2: he's like, Okay, here's what's going on. And he's like,

798
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: do you know why someone would want to kill all

799
00:44:43,080 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: of your associates? And of course Vassilius has no idea.

800
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:48,880
Speaker 2: He again, he says the same thing as the guy earlier.

801
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:51,040
Speaker 2: He's like, men in my profession die every day of

802
00:44:51,080 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 2: the year. I don't know how often, in like frog

803
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,880
Speaker 2: related deaths though, But yeah, But anyway, when the police

804
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: find out about the the Long Street murder here, they

805
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 2: get a clue, which is the pendant left behind the scene.

806
00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: Doctor Fibes actually drops the pendant there by accident, and

807
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: so they find it. They take it back to a goldsmith,

808
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: the person who made it, and the goldsmith tells them, Yep,

809
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 2: this is an ambulance. I made ten of them. It

810
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,880
Speaker 2: was a lady who ordered them. And Trout is like,

811
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,720
Speaker 2: was she smart? And then he says fashionable.

812
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. It's a fun scene because there's a lot of

813
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: goofy back and forth between these two characters.

814
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 2: But the jeweler informs Trout that the sign on the

815
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 2: ambulant is something requested by the person who bought them,

816
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 2: and it's a symbol in Hebrew. So the inspector then

817
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 2: has a new clue and takes it to a rabbi

818
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,200
Speaker 2: to get the run down, and here we get a

819
00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 2: major exposition scene. So the rabbi tells him that the

820
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:58,600
Speaker 2: symbol is Hebrew for blood, and ah, okay, this makes

821
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 2: sense because Longstreet drained of all blood. But it's also

822
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 2: notable for being one of the ten plagues of Egypt,

823
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: of course, turning the Nile into blood, and so here

824
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: we get a speech about the ten plagues of Egypt.

825
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,480
Speaker 2: So this is from the story of the Exodus in

826
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 2: the Torah, and the context is that the Jews are

827
00:46:16,719 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 2: in bondage in Egypt, and God keeps sending plagues against

828
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 2: Egypt to force the pharaoh to release them. Here we

829
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:27,799
Speaker 2: get a list of the plagues which are in order.

830
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 2: And I'm not saying these are necessarily the correct plagues.

831
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 2: This is what the movie says. Says they are boils, bats, frogs, blood, rats, hail, beasts, locusts,

832
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: death of the firstborn, and darkness.

833
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: All right, we've had the first four, so we're almost

834
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 1: halfway through.

835
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 2: I feel like I must flag as kind of a

836
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,000
Speaker 2: Bible nerd like compare that to the actual list in

837
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 2: a good translation of Exodus. I don't think that really matches,

838
00:46:57,800 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 2: but anyway, so we get more scenes with doctor Fibes

839
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: back at the party house, and this is where we

840
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,640
Speaker 2: first see him speaking to a shrine of the image

841
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: of a woman. We find out his wife. This is

842
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,480
Speaker 2: the one played by the photo of Carolyn Monroe against

843
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 2: Stella Star, and he's like worshiping this headshot of her.

844
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 2: He's got a whole table I think of her belongings

845
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 2: laid out. And we mentioned earlier that Vincent Price never

846
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: actually speaks out of his mouth in this movie, so

847
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:33,040
Speaker 2: the only times he talks are by plugging a phonograph

848
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: into a jack in the back of his neck, and

849
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:39,280
Speaker 2: this connects to another weird scene later where he looks

850
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,759
Speaker 2: it looks like he's drinking a beverage by pouring it

851
00:47:42,800 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: into the back of his neck.

852
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: Yes, At one point he tastes something he's mixed up

853
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,160
Speaker 1: on his finger by like sticking his finger back there

854
00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 1: to where they're when we never see it, but presumably

855
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: there's some sort of a mouth hole back there that

856
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 1: has been I don't know if it's surgical or technological,

857
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: but not knowing for sure makes it all the more impressive.

858
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 2: When he's tasting something, is that the Brussels sprout goo.

859
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:07,799
Speaker 1: Yes, the Brussels sprout.

860
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 2: We'll get to that. But this also provides some exposition

861
00:48:13,320 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 2: because talking through the phonograph, he gives this whole fiery

862
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,240
Speaker 2: speech and he says, nine killed you, nine shall die,

863
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 2: nine eternities in doom. But we also get some exposition

864
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,760
Speaker 2: on the other side with doctor Vesalius and the police.

865
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 2: So he and Trout do some research and they figure

866
00:48:32,960 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 2: out that there was actually only one case where Vesalius

867
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: worked with all of the doctors who are now dead,

868
00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 2: and that was on one patient named Victoria Regina Fibes,

869
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: and we get the whole backstory. So she had some

870
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:50,360
Speaker 2: medical emergency they were operating on her. Her husband was

871
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,680
Speaker 2: someone named doctor Anton Fibes. And as Anton Fibes was

872
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 2: racing to the hospital where his wife was in surgery,

873
00:48:57,640 --> 00:49:00,319
Speaker 2: his car went off a cliff and exploded and he

874
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 2: was incinerated or was he? And the reason from this Okay,

875
00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:08,359
Speaker 2: so the rest of the surgical team that worked on

876
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 2: this case of Victoria Fibes, they all need to be

877
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,879
Speaker 2: put under police protection, but the police don't really get

878
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: there fast enough for most of them. Because the next

879
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:19,759
Speaker 2: scene is where Vincent Price uses an air conditioner in

880
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:20,839
Speaker 2: a car to kill a guy.

881
00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, like this in the carriage there, they

882
00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:30,480
Speaker 1: just kind of like pull him over, take incapacitate the driver,

883
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 1: and then just hook him up to the AC and

884
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 1: freeze him solid.

885
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:36,839
Speaker 2: And there's like snow blowing in his face from this machine. Yeah,

886
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 2: it's pretty good.

887
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: And this one there's a scene too that's very feels

888
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: very Avengers and in its weirdness, you know, because we

889
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: got like a little bit of super science that in weirdness,

890
00:49:48,040 --> 00:49:50,400
Speaker 1: and we're also getting into that territory here too with

891
00:49:50,520 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: our villain. Where our villain is. He's not incapable of air.

892
00:49:54,719 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 1: We saw him drop the amulet earlier, but he's really

893
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: thought out everything and is a man of multiple talents,

894
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:03,560
Speaker 1: a real villainous polymath.

895
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 2: Yes. In fact, the very next scene we start to

896
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 2: learn about all of his different expertise. So first of all,

897
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 2: we get a clue for Scotland Yard, which comes from

898
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: doctor Vesalius's son Lim, who says he was in the

899
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 2: music shop, I think, talking to the owner there about

900
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 2: the great organists, and he just happens to name some

901
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,600
Speaker 2: of the great organists off hand, Bridges, Drew and Fibes.

902
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 2: And so they're like, oh, oh, I see doctor Anton Fibes.

903
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 2: He was a great organist, and he's apparently been paying

904
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 2: the local organ shop guy recently, even though he's supposed

905
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 2: to be dead. So they take a trip out to

906
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:45,399
Speaker 2: the crypt where mister and missus Fibes were supposedly laid

907
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 2: to rest, and we get more discussion about his background.

908
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 2: They say, okay, he's not only a concert organist, he's

909
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: also a PhD in theology, And I thought this was hilarious.

910
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: Inspector Trout is like, that would explain his knowledge of

911
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:03,880
Speaker 2: the ten Plagues of Ea seems like rather basic knowledge.

912
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:04,160
Speaker 2: I don't know.

913
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:11,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not really a deep cut.

914
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:17,320
Speaker 2: But another really weird thing here is that wait a minute, Okay,

915
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:21,400
Speaker 2: so Fibes is a concert organist and a PhD in theology.

916
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 2: I started to wonder, that is a really weird coincidence

917
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 2: if this is not supposed to be a play on

918
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: Albert Schweitzer. But I don't know why else that would be.

919
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 2: So do you know anything about Schweitzer.

920
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,960
Speaker 1: I didn't know a lot about him until you mentioned

921
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: the possible connection, and I read like just a basic

922
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: bio on him. Yeah.

923
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, He's an interesting figure who was a medical doctor,

924
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: a concert organist, and one of the most important scholars

925
00:51:45,160 --> 00:51:48,320
Speaker 2: ever of the New Testament. He's largely responsible in a

926
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 2: historical Jesus scholarship for putting forward probably the reigning historical

927
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 2: understanding of Jesus today, which is that he was an

928
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: apocalyptic Jewish prophet, somebody who is predicting the imminent end

929
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:05,080
Speaker 2: of the world. But I was just thinking, like, it

930
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of sense otherwise, But it would

931
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 2: be that is such a weirdly specific thing. An organist

932
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,040
Speaker 2: and a PhD in theology.

933
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:17,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, so yeah, I mean it makes sense.

934
00:52:17,880 --> 00:52:20,319
Speaker 1: It's one way to flesh out your villain. Pick a

935
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: pick an historical figure and say what if we made

936
00:52:24,760 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: them into a supervillain, if if they were a supervillain,

937
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: what would it be like?

938
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So, I don't know, strange choice, but interesting anyway.

939
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,880
Speaker 2: At the crypt we've got, you know, so they well,

940
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:37,440
Speaker 2: let's just pop open these coffins and have us looks here.

941
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's no official process here. They just just rip them.

942
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: Open, just pop them open. Yeah. So they pop open

943
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 2: the Doctor Fibes tomb. It has only ashes in it,

944
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 2: but whose ashes we don't know. They pop open the

945
00:52:51,239 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 2: Missus Fibes tomb, nothing, completely empty. One of the next

946
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:58,880
Speaker 2: scenes I recall is Inspector Trout back at the office

947
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,719
Speaker 2: receiving just a whacking chew out from his superiors. They

948
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 2: you know, he's what what is that? Do you remember

949
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 2: this boss's name? The guy who's yelling at him for

950
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,440
Speaker 2: like a minute straight.

951
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: I believe this is James Grout just playing sergeant. I

952
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: could be wrong on that, but but it's a it's

953
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 1: it's a real fun role because he's Yeah, he's a

954
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:17,719
Speaker 1: real he's a real hard ass.

955
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah he's he's demanding that they solve the case immediately.

956
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: You know, we can't have these weird doctor murders just

957
00:53:24,120 --> 00:53:27,319
Speaker 2: hanging out there because there was public outcry and that's

958
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,400
Speaker 2: falling on me. And the Big Boss also yells at

959
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:34,279
Speaker 2: Trout for not wearing his suit jacket inside. He's a

960
00:53:34,320 --> 00:53:38,440
Speaker 2: real stickler. And then we get another doctor murder scene.

961
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 2: This one I thought was kind of strange, but it

962
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:44,480
Speaker 2: was the rat attack in the planes. One of the

963
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: doctors is an amateur pilot. He takes his plane up

964
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,640
Speaker 2: and then while in there, I guess they, I guess

965
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: doctor Fibes and Wilvania have put rats in the plane.

966
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:57,279
Speaker 2: The rats attack him, and then he crashes the plane.

967
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,360
Speaker 1: I guess part of it's the sequential nature of this

968
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: and also the britishness of it. But I was reminded

969
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,279
Speaker 1: of Psychomania a lot in this, because it's a whole

970
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: section in Psychomania where you have all the bikers trying

971
00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:11,799
Speaker 1: to kill themselves in unique ways. They can come back

972
00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 1: as undead bikers, and there's kind of like each one's

973
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:15,960
Speaker 1: more ridiculous than the last.

974
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,879
Speaker 2: That is a great sequence. Oh psychomania. Oh, that's also

975
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:19,879
Speaker 2: one of the best, I.

976
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: Think, speaking of the best, oh, the next murder, Oh

977
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 1: it maybe it's one of the cheapest where you're kind

978
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,640
Speaker 1: of like, I don't know, fivees, you're kind of really

979
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 1: stretching the theme here. But on the other level, like

980
00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: absolutely top marks for creativity and style.

981
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: So the police have not been able to protect any

982
00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: of the doctors yet, so they finally get to the

983
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:45,280
Speaker 2: next one before Fibes can. They're at his Gentleman's club

984
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 2: in London, I guess, and they're like, okay, we're going

985
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:50,080
Speaker 2: to take you into protective custody. We'll make sure nothing

986
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:52,480
Speaker 2: happens to you. So they're walking out of the club

987
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:55,239
Speaker 2: and as they open the door, you just hear like

988
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 2: an arrow hitting the target sound effect, and he has

989
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:04,839
Speaker 2: been pierced through with the horn of a brass unicorn.

990
00:55:05,320 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: Yes as oh when they say it was fired from

991
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,600
Speaker 2: a catapult.

992
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, And this is one of those moments in the

993
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: village just reminds you like, don't try and think too

994
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,160
Speaker 1: forensically about this motion picture. If you're like, well, how

995
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,799
Speaker 1: did they get a cat they lay a catapult trap there,

996
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,880
Speaker 1: and how did they work out the aerodynamics of launching

997
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 1: like this brass unicorn at this guy. They well, just

998
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,280
Speaker 1: don't worry about that. Just trust us. It happened.

999
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,880
Speaker 2: The unicorn horn has a spiral pattern on it, and

1000
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: they have to unscrew the guy from the wall. They

1001
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: show like his feet going around.

1002
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:41,759
Speaker 1: Yes, it's such great gallows humor. I love it.

1003
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 2: But then so you've got this extremely silly scene, and

1004
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:47,840
Speaker 2: then right after it there's kind of a serious scene

1005
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: where Fibes is he's again worshiping the headshot of Carolyn Monroe.

1006
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,320
Speaker 2: But in this one he recites part of a wonderful

1007
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:57,560
Speaker 2: love poem by John Dunn, The Good Morrow.

1008
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: Do you know this one, Rob, I wasn't familiar with

1009
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:00,160
Speaker 1: this one.

1010
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,239
Speaker 2: You might remember lines from it, you know, people might

1011
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 2: have read it at school, and sometimes it has the

1012
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,920
Speaker 2: lines if ever, any beauty I did see which I

1013
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 2: desired and got twas but a dream of the Well.

1014
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,360
Speaker 2: He doesn't say those lines in the movie. Instead, he

1015
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 2: quotes some lines from the last stands of the poem.

1016
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,280
Speaker 2: He quotes them out of order. So the last stanza

1017
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: is my face in thine eye, thine in mine appears,

1018
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 2: and true plain hearts do in the faces rest? Where

1019
00:56:25,719 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: can we find two better hemispheres without sharp north, without

1020
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 2: declining west? Whatever dies was not mixed equally. If our

1021
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,440
Speaker 2: two loves be one, or thou and I love so alike,

1022
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:42,240
Speaker 2: that none do slacken, none can die. It's a great poem.

1023
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 2: But he so he reads the first four lines of

1024
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 2: that stanza, but he reads lines three and four and

1025
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,680
Speaker 2: then one and two, so the ones about the hemispheres,

1026
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 2: and then in the Face's Rest.

1027
00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:54,719
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, he's put a lot of work into this

1028
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: whole revenge cycle and ritual, so you know, he's figured

1029
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 1: out how to mix it up a little. He's got

1030
00:57:00,760 --> 00:57:02,400
Speaker 1: to get it just right. There's been many takes.

1031
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: But then it goes straight from that into probably I

1032
00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: would say, the weirdest murder in the entire movie, would

1033
00:57:09,640 --> 00:57:10,720
Speaker 2: you agree.

1034
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's And it's also and then this is

1035
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 1: nice that the murders all feel a little bit different

1036
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 1: and they're presented in different ways. Like we get no

1037
00:57:19,640 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: clue at all about the setup for the brass Unicorn

1038
00:57:23,120 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 1: catapult murder.

1039
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they one making the unicorn or everything.

1040
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:31,120
Speaker 1: No extended scenes of that, but this one is all

1041
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,320
Speaker 1: about the prep work. In fact, you're just set You

1042
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,880
Speaker 1: just set there watching this weirdness take place, and you're like,

1043
00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:37,680
Speaker 1: what are they doing? What?

1044
00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 2: What?

1045
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: What? What of the ten plagues of Egypt involved Brussels sprouts.

1046
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:45,920
Speaker 2: Let's talk about Brussels sprouts. What is happening. Volvania is

1047
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:50,520
Speaker 2: walking around dressed like Queen Elizabeth and holding trays of

1048
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 2: Brussels sprouts, and Vincent Price is standing over a giant

1049
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 2: pot of boiling Brussels sprouts, and he's like picking Brussels

1050
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 2: sprouts from her hands and throwing some of them into

1051
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: the pot and throwing other ones away. He's inspecting them

1052
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 2: to see if they're just right. I don't know why.

1053
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:09,520
Speaker 2: I don't know how this works, but he's like making

1054
00:58:10,400 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 2: he's turning the Brussels sprouts into some kind of essence

1055
00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: of Brussels sprout.

1056
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I wasn't sure what was going on. I

1057
00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: was like, well, we know that, you know, obviously he

1058
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: was heavily disfigured, and we I think by this point

1059
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:28,760
Speaker 1: we already know that he drinks through his neck. So

1060
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: I was thinking, well, maybe this is just what doctor

1061
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: Fibes consumes. Maybe he's on a liquid diet and he

1062
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: likes Brussels sprouts and Brussels sprouts are good for you,

1063
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: and Brussels trouts are great, so I mean, maybe not

1064
00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:39,640
Speaker 1: in this form, but.

1065
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 2: No, this is this is the world. I mean, I

1066
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 2: love Brussels sprouts like good and like roasted. The idea

1067
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: of boiling Brussels sprouts down to a paste is one

1068
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 2: of the most disgusting things. I can imagine Brussels sprouts

1069
00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,040
Speaker 2: in wet heat. No no, no.

1070
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah. Watching this, I was like, I have

1071
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 1: no idea where this is going, but I'm all in,

1072
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: let's say.

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Speaker 2: Well, where is it going. We've got one last person

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00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:04,840
Speaker 2: on the list. It's a nurse who worked on the

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00:59:05,360 --> 00:59:08,680
Speaker 2: you know, the Victoria Fib's case, and so the police

1076
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: are trying to protect her. They send her into a

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00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 2: room in some building where every surface is green.

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00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, very nice and fits with the theme of green goo.

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00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: So they're like, okay, go in this room and sleep,

1080
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 2: and she's like okay. They tell her to take a

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00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 2: sleeping pill, and I guess that would explain why she

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00:59:25,960 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: is slow to wake. Later, doctor fib sneaks into the

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00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 2: floor above her, drills a hole in the floor, hooks

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00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 2: up a machine to pump green goo. I guess this

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00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: is what he made out of the Brussels sprouts into

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00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 2: the room. It dribbles all over some globe lamp and

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00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,680
Speaker 2: then dribbles all over her face. And then he releases

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00:59:46,080 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 2: locusts into the room via a tube and they march

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00:59:49,440 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 2: single file and then they go down and I guess

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00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,360
Speaker 2: they start eating the green goo off of her because

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00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,200
Speaker 2: they like plants. I don't know. And then they just

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00:59:58,320 --> 00:59:59,960
Speaker 2: strip her flesh down to the bone.

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01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: Ones, Yeah, just completely deflesh or skeleton.

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01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, pirhify her?

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Speaker 3: M M.

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Speaker 2: Is that weird enough for you?

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Speaker 1: It's such a weird scene, and of course you know

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01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: it's completely unrealistic, but kudos he was able to work.

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Speaker 1: It was like, once I saw the bugs, I was like, ah,

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Speaker 1: you're doing the locusts. Okay, now it all makes sense.

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Speaker 2: He made Brussels sprout goo then used Okay.

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Speaker 1: Well you know he's been working up again. A lot

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01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,000
Speaker 1: of work went into this. He probably tried different you know,

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01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:35,240
Speaker 1: liquefied vegetables and liquefied plants to see what would get

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Speaker 1: the locust excited enough to completely consume a human human

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Speaker 1: bodies flesh, And this is what.

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Speaker 2: Worked, and she never woke up the whole time.

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Speaker 1: No, Oh, she'd taken a sleeping pill, so she was out.

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Speaker 2: But then finally we get down to the climax, which

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01:00:50,160 --> 01:00:53,680
Speaker 2: is when Vesalius realizes that, oh, the biblical plague falling

1111
01:00:53,720 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: to him is the death of the firstborn, his organist son,

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01:00:57,560 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 2: His son Limb has been kidnapped by doctor Fibes. And

1113
01:01:01,120 --> 01:01:03,640
Speaker 2: here here we come to our James Bond trap ending.

1114
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 2: So Visilius finds out that Vibes has his kid. He

1115
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 2: knocks out Inspector Trout, who tries to stop him, and

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01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: then he heads over to the party house where all

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01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: kinds of things are happening. Volnavia is wearing this amazing

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01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: like red cloak with a with a golden sun, with

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01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:24,160
Speaker 2: all these like insect legs on it, and this this

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Speaker 2: hat with peacock things shooting off of it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, she's the high priestess of the revenge.

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Speaker 1: I think at this point.

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Speaker 2: Yes, beautiful, and this uh, the Automata are playing their

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01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:40,600
Speaker 2: their big band music, and doctor Vasilius arrives and and

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Speaker 2: oh god, they explained this whole thing to him. They're like, okay,

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Speaker 2: you've got six minutes to operate on your son. To

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01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 2: get a key out of his body that I've placed

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Speaker 2: in his body that you will have to use to

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01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 2: unlock the table, which so you can move the table

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01:01:57,720 --> 01:02:01,320
Speaker 2: that he's on so that this time doesn't release a

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01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:02,680
Speaker 2: bunch of acid onto him.

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Speaker 1: Rights. It's like, this is very much this is where

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01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 1: I was definitely thinking about, like the Saw movies and all,

1134
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,200
Speaker 1: but like, really Jigsaw just a rank amateur with no

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01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: style at all compared to Doctor Fibes. Because as grotesque

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01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,000
Speaker 1: as this sounds, and it does come off as like

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01:02:19,120 --> 01:02:23,440
Speaker 1: legitimately kind of uh, at this point, it's still beautifully rendered.

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01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: You know, this white background, it's very stylish, and it

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01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 1: also works really well. I feel like the tension really

1140
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:32,400
Speaker 1: builds in this part of the movie because, like I

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01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,280
Speaker 1: referenced earlier, we're at the part where we're past the victims,

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01:02:36,280 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 1: where we can be like, Okay, that guy seems sleazy.

1143
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 1: I guess it's okay of our unrealistic movie villain kills them.

1144
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: But now like we're dealing with with the doctor alone,

1145
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,480
Speaker 1: we haven't really seen anything to any reason to hate

1146
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: him and his son even more so, like he is

1147
01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,880
Speaker 1: an innocent when it comes to the death of Fib's wife,

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01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,440
Speaker 1: you know, no matter how you you know, tease apart

1149
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,680
Speaker 1: the details of her demise, right.

1150
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:02,760
Speaker 2: So Alias is he's he's sett into it. He's trying

1151
01:03:02,760 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 2: to get the task done. Meanwhile, Volnavia goes to grab

1152
01:03:06,440 --> 01:03:09,920
Speaker 2: a solid old axe and just starts hacking up the

1153
01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:12,400
Speaker 2: whole place. I guess you know, Fibes is like, we're

1154
01:03:12,440 --> 01:03:16,560
Speaker 2: done destroy everything. So she's at it. We get a

1155
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 2: Fibes face reveal. Yes, where what is his real face?

1156
01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,720
Speaker 2: It's I don't know how to describe it. It's a skull face.

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01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a very very phantom of the opera skeleton face.

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01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:32,120
Speaker 1: You know on the posters you see some like mechanical

1159
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,479
Speaker 1: elements that are part of it. Like, you know, he's

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01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 1: you know, touching on the fact that he's also kind

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01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:41,800
Speaker 1: of made a have some clockwork elements to himself because

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01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: he has this big showdown right where he's talking about,

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01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: you know how the doctors can't be trusted. The doctor

1164
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:51,280
Speaker 1: said he wouldn't survive, but he used his own ingenuity

1165
01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,720
Speaker 1: to in his knowledge of music and acoustics to allow

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01:03:54,800 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 1: himself to speak again. And he also has that great

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01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 1: line there where he's he says I've killed nine times

1168
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 1: in my life. How many murders may be attributed to you?

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01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:08,200
Speaker 1: Speaking to the doctor. Yeah, so he comes down there,

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01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: he takes the mask off, because this whole thing is like,

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01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:12,280
Speaker 1: soon your son will be disfigured by acid and it'll

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01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: look just like me. And then, of course the doctor

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01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: continues to try and frantically work the surgery, and meanwhile

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01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 1: he just kind of like backs up and gets into

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01:04:20,840 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 1: the elevator. It leaves him to try and pull it off.

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01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 2: Now we Visalia succeeds. The sun is not harmed, but

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01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,120
Speaker 2: Fibes does get away and the police arrive. Oh and

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01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:35,120
Speaker 2: there when the police arrive, Volnavia is standing there, I guess,

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01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,240
Speaker 2: ready to attack with the golden the solid gold axe.

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01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:41,120
Speaker 2: But then she stands under the acid machine and ye,

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01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 2: she gets she gets acid.

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01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:45,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, she gets acid slimed. We don't actually see her

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01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: melt or anything, but it's it's it's you know, it's

1184
01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:52,400
Speaker 1: in implied melting. And I guess you know, she's not

1185
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: a good character. She's not.

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01:04:54,520 --> 01:04:56,240
Speaker 2: She's been doing a lot of murder, a.

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01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:59,400
Speaker 1: Lot of murders, so it feels fair. Oh but then doctor.

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01:04:59,120 --> 01:05:01,800
Speaker 2: Fibes, he basically gets away with it, because what does

1189
01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 2: he do? He goes down and we find out, oh,

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01:05:03,800 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 2: there's there's missus Fibes in a sort of crypt with

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01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 2: a robotic lifting or mechanically lifting lid. He gets into

1192
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 2: the crypt next to her, I guess, planning to be

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01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,240
Speaker 2: interred alongside her body, and then hooks up a machine

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01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,000
Speaker 2: to replace his blood with embalming fluid and we see

1195
01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 2: it like coming out of these yellow, very clearly labeled

1196
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:27,760
Speaker 2: beakers that say embalming fluid. And so he's going down there,

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01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 2: I guess getting embalmed in real time. When the when

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01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 2: the police inspectors show up, they were like, wait a minute,

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Speaker 2: what was the last plague big stinger? Of course, plague

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 2: of darkness? And the lights go.

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01:05:37,440 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 1: Out, Yeah and yeah, we get the credits roll, and

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01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,280
Speaker 1: this is in the credits where we see both doctor

1203
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: the both doctors are listed as the protagonists, which I like.

1204
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:50,280
Speaker 1: And then when oh, and then oh, what song is

1205
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: playing over the end credits just to add to the

1206
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:53,680
Speaker 1: utter weirdness of this.

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:55,720
Speaker 2: Movie, Somewhere over the rainbow.

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01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 1: Oh, it's so good. And then at the very and

1209
01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:02,840
Speaker 1: you get a little stinger, you get an evil doctor

1210
01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: Fibes Vincent Price laugh. Oh God, I love it. There's

1211
01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,240
Speaker 1: just even the last twenty minutes, there's so many weird touches,

1212
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 1: like I love how the when he self embalms himself alive.

1213
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:16,240
Speaker 1: The embalming fluid is this bright yellow opposite the bright

1214
01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:19,280
Speaker 1: red of the blood. It made me think. I think

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01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,160
Speaker 1: Phantasm two has bright yellow embalming fluid. I have no

1216
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: idea what color embalming fluid actually is, but I hope

1217
01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: it's bright mustard yellow like in these motion pictures. There's

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01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: the lid to the casket.

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01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: Oh what about that?

1220
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 1: Oh it has like this elaborate sun, moon and Earth,

1221
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:38,600
Speaker 1: this astrological thing going on.

1222
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 2: Amazing great set design. This one's a real winner. Doctor

1223
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 2: Fibes is the best.

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01:06:45,160 --> 01:06:48,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely. Yeah. This one's a lot of fun. Highly recommend it.

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01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 1: Just just a weird fun picture. Yeah. Probably not for

1226
01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: the wee kids or anything, but.

1227
01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,120
Speaker 2: It does get unless we say otherwise. That applies to

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Speaker 2: any movie we talked.

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01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 1: Right, right, But I've got a lot of fun for

1230
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: just about everybody else. This one is currently hard to

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01:07:06,200 --> 01:07:08,720
Speaker 1: stream anywhere as of this recording, at least in the

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Speaker 1: United States. There's an old DVD available in the United

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01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,600
Speaker 1: States and that is what I rendered from videodrome to

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01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:20,120
Speaker 1: watch it. There's a nice aero video Blu Ray for

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01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: regions b Slash two out there. But luckily the folks

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01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:28,240
Speaker 1: that Videodrome informed that a new Blu Ray edition is

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01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:30,960
Speaker 1: about to come out from Keno Lorber. It's going to

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01:07:31,040 --> 01:07:34,040
Speaker 1: come out next month and it's a two pack with

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01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:37,600
Speaker 1: both Fibes movies in it, Part one and the sequel.

1240
01:07:38,360 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 1: So if you're excited to check out this film, well, hey,

1241
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,120
Speaker 1: it's about here. And who knows, a lot of times

1242
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:46,320
Speaker 1: when these films come out like this, it opens up

1243
01:07:46,400 --> 01:07:49,640
Speaker 1: streaming options as well, at least in subsequent months. So

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01:07:49,960 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 1: I feel like Fibes is returning in grandiose fashion, which

1245
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: of course fits him perfectly.

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01:07:57,480 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 2: I can't wait. I will probably be trying to grab.

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01:08:00,520 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: One of those. Yeah, Keno Lber. They tend to do

1248
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: a really good job, all right, Anything else you want

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01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: to say about Doctor Fib'es, I mean, there's so many

1250
01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: This is one of those movies. It's just so rich

1251
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: with weirdness that we didn't even have time to touch

1252
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:15,800
Speaker 1: on everything. There's so many great shots, you know, so

1253
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: many nice little details that are either added to a performance,

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01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 1: or certainly to the background. For instance, I feel like

1255
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,839
Speaker 1: we could have just described his organ that he plays.

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01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the glowing red organ.

1257
01:08:30,320 --> 01:08:35,800
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's just so beautifully gothically super villain stylish.

1258
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 1: Oh it's just it has to be seen.

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01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 2: Don't watch this movie if you're making Brussels sprouts for dinner.

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Speaker 1: All right, We're going to go ahead and close out

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Speaker 1: this episode, But as always so we'd love to hear

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01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 1: from everyone out there. Any FIBES fans have any tidbits

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01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: they want to share with us, write in let us know.

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