1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: Dear listeners of Hollywood Land, does it feel like you're 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:07,120 Speaker 1: stuck in limbo standing under a flickering street light at 3 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: the corner of Hollywood and True Crime, waiting for the 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:13,159 Speaker 1: next episode of hollywood Land to drop. I got you. 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: Welcome to hollywood Land, the Rap Party. Welcome everybody to 6 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: another bonus episode of hollywood Land. You know what time 7 00:00:32,800 --> 00:00:35,360 Speaker 1: it is, It's time for the Rap Party. This is 8 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the show that gets you from one full episode of 9 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:40,160 Speaker 1: hollywood Land to the next, the place where we don't 10 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: believe that history has to be boring, no man, especially 11 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: when the stories we're interested in, the stories from movie history, 12 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: intersects so dramatically with the world of true crime. So 13 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:51,440 Speaker 1: get in here with me as we sift through all 14 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: these spliced up pieces of truth in myth left on 15 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: the cutting room floor. My name is Zeth Lundy, writer 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,200 Speaker 1: at Double Elvis and showrunner for Hollywood Land. And on 17 00:01:00,240 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: this bonus episode, we are talking about this week's full 18 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: episode subject Paul Newman. We are previewing next week's episode 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 1: on Robert Mitchum. We're talking movie and music recommendations, and 20 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: of course we're gonna check out your voicemails texts, dms 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:29,720 Speaker 1: and emails. So come on, everybody, let's party. What has 22 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: happened in you guys? I am pumped to be back 23 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: behind the mic here, back on the driver's seat, just 24 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: like Paul Newman behind the wheel of his dots in 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: two eighty z X. As you know, Paul Newman is 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: the subject of this week's full episode of Hollywood Land, 27 00:01:45,040 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 1: which is so fitting since last week we were talking 28 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: about Robert Redford's death, and Redford and Newman made a 29 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: few of the best buddy movies together, even though they 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: only made two films together. But in my memory and 31 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: in the memory of many many film lovers included, I'm 32 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: sure they were so perfect together that it just seems 33 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 1: like they made way more than just two movies. Right, 34 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 1: It's like the Bearnstein Bears thing, Like I swear to god, 35 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: Paul Newman and Robert Redford made more than two movies together. 36 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: But Nope, the Internet's telling me that it's just Butch 37 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: Cassidy and the Sun Dance Kid and the Sting and 38 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 1: that is it. And they were nineteen sixty nine, and 39 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,799 Speaker 1: then again in the seventies, and then never again. They 40 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: almost were together again in this movie A Walk in 41 00:02:28,160 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: the Woods that Robert Redford ended up making with Nick 42 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 1: Nolty much later on, But when the movie was being developed, 43 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: Paul Newman was in failing health and so it just 44 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: didn't happen, which is a bummer. It would have been 45 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,919 Speaker 1: great to see those two on screen again. But I'm 46 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: glad we have the movies that we do have, and 47 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,359 Speaker 1: you know, watching those movies, watching Paul Newman. Paul Newman 48 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: had a realness to him that I think was extremely 49 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:54,399 Speaker 1: rare in the business that he was in. I think 50 00:02:55,240 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: realness is a great word to attach to him. Sure, 51 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 1: he was a handsome guy who did handsome guy things, 52 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 1: and as he once said himself, quote, it was my 53 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: appearance that got me in the door. It was like 54 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: being a guy with a trust fund who doesn't have 55 00:03:08,919 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: to work, unquote. I think on a certain level he 56 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: recognized how lucky he was and he didn't take that 57 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 1: for granted. But he was also he was just incapable 58 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: of not being himself. There's this incredible photo from I 59 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: believe nineteen eighty one. I always think about when I 60 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 1: think about Paul Newman. Maybe you know what I'm talking about. 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 1: He's standing on a street corner, got white hair, white goateee. 62 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: I think he's eighty one, so he's around I think 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: he's fifty six at the time. He's wearing these cut 64 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: off white jean shorts, bare feet, and he's got this 65 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: orange T shirt on that says get really stoned in 66 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: big type and then in little type face below what 67 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: it says, drink what cement. He's holding two bottles of 68 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 1: I think Saint Pauly Girl beers in each hand, so 69 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: he's got four bottles total, and he has this look 70 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: on his face like someone has said, yo, Paul, wait up. 71 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 1: Robert Redford would have never got caught looking like that. 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: Robert Redford was far more made up and thought out 73 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: when it came to his own image. But though they 74 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: weren't alike in that way, Robert Redford and Paul Newman 75 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: were very similar when it came to philanthropy. You know, 76 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:19,400 Speaker 1: Redford was all about the environment. Newman was all about people, 77 00:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: specifically about sick kids, kids with serious illnesses. He started 78 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,800 Speaker 1: this company, Newman's Own in nineteen eighty two, which was 79 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 1: a food business that began with just salad dressing and 80 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: eventually moved on to like pasta sauce, olive oil, pizza, popcorn, cookies, coffee, tea. 81 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: I'm sure you see the stuff in the supermarket all 82 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: the time. Quick shout out to his pasta sauce, soccer rooney, 83 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: which is an all timer for me. But anyways, my 84 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,680 Speaker 1: point here is that when he started this company in 85 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: eighty two, he was laughed at. It was like, look 86 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: at this vain actor putting his face on a salad 87 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 1: dressing label and all that. But then when people saw 88 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: what it was really about, that this company was putting 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: one hundred percent their profits into programs that benefited kids 90 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 1: with serious illnesses, that benefited school food programs, it was like, 91 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 1: holy shit, No, no actor has ever pulled this off before. 92 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: And keep in mind the nonprofits that Newman's own helps 93 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: fund includes this network of summer camps for kids with 94 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: serious illnesses that was, you know, founded back in the 95 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 1: late eighties, and according to one camp counselor who worked there, 96 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: Paul Newman would visit every week just to hang out 97 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,679 Speaker 1: with the kids, not for photo ops with the press, 98 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 1: not for a pat on the back. He did it 99 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 1: because he just believed in what the company was doing, 100 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: and he believed in helping other people. And you know, 101 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: this isn't to say the guy was perfect, because he wasn't. 102 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 1: Part of being authentic like that is that it's a 103 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: warts and all thing, you know, And if you want 104 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: a really in depth look at that, I highly recommend 105 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: you check out this documentary series that was on HBO 106 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,799 Speaker 1: from a few years back called The Last Movie Stars, 107 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: which is about Paul Newman and his wife Joanne Woodward, 108 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,919 Speaker 1: directed by Ethan Hawk. It is fascinating stuff. When it 109 00:06:09,960 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: came out, I had COVID and I was quarantined in 110 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: my bedroom and I just binged that series. I don't 111 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: think my recommendation is coming from a place of like 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:21,160 Speaker 1: COVID brain. I think it really was as good as 113 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,560 Speaker 1: I think it was, and that was riveted. You know, 114 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times you'll get these portraits, you know, 115 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: in documentaries, and we've talked about this time and time again, 116 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: you'll get these portraits of people that are sort of 117 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: sugarcoated or rose colored glasses or whatever. But the way 118 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,160 Speaker 1: in which this one really differs is that they do 119 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: not hold back on showing the good, the bad, and 120 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,880 Speaker 1: the ugly. Again, a rarity in this business, a rarity 121 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: through and through I was thinking this weekend about some 122 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: of my favorite Paul Newman movies and I was just curious. 123 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: I did a quick search online to see what was 124 00:06:54,880 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 1: out there for like articles and lists on this, and 125 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I found this one from the THEFI, the British Film Institute. 126 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 1: This is a newer list. This is from the beginning 127 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: of this year, is when this bliss was written and published. 128 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 1: It's called Paul Newman Ten Essential Films. So according to 129 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: the BFI, these are the ten essential Paul Newman films. 130 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read you the list and we can talk 131 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: about whether you agree or not. Okay, So the first 132 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: one on here is cat on a Hot Tin Roof. 133 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,960 Speaker 1: This is from nineteen fifty eight. This is a Tennessee 134 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: Williams adaptation with Liz Taylor pin up Paul Newman, Matt 135 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: and the idol Paul Newman, as you said before, the 136 00:07:31,520 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: good looking guy who got his foot in the door. 137 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:35,840 Speaker 1: But already from the jump here and this is not 138 00:07:35,880 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: his first role, but it's one of his first early 139 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: major roles. NOI from the jump here, he's already playing 140 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:43,240 Speaker 1: the outsider. He's already playing a character that's sort of 141 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: against how Paul Newman looks, which sort of became a 142 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: theme throughout his career. Second movie on here, The Hustler 143 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: from nineteen sixty one, his first go at playing fast 144 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 1: Eddie Felson, the pool Player. This has some great black 145 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: and white photography in it, lots of shadows, just really 146 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: to look at hud nineteen sixty three. The writer in 147 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 1: this list says that at this point Paul Newman's beauty 148 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: and charm were quote nuclear grade unquote, which is hard 149 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: to argue with. Cool hand Luke. All right, cool hand 150 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 1: Luke nineteen sixty seven. This is one of the greatest 151 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: antithority movies ever made. Definitely the greatest scene with eggs 152 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: ever made in a movie. I think this is, in 153 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,559 Speaker 1: my opinion, when Paul Newman settles into the Paul Newman 154 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: thing that he'll maintain for the rest of his career, 155 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: which if you know Paul Newman, you know what I'm 156 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: talking about. It's the anti authority thing, it's the slightly 157 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: misanthropic thing, the toll air of cool that he has, 158 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:43,720 Speaker 1: the realness the cool, and this is personified in the 159 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: next movie on this list, watch Cassidy and a Sun 160 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 1: Dance Kid and the writer in This article talks about 161 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:51,439 Speaker 1: the way in which Paul Newman just throws away one 162 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:53,920 Speaker 1: liners with ease, and this is exactly what I'm talking about. 163 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: This is this is Paul Newman fully coming into Paul Newman. 164 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:01,240 Speaker 1: The Next Movie, nineteen seventy three. This I talked about 165 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: this last week, But Paul Newman steals like every scene 166 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: he's in. That scene where he pretends to be drunk 167 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: playing cards is just It might be my favorite Paul 168 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:14,280 Speaker 1: Newman scene of all time. Buffalo Bill and the Indians 169 00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: or Sitting Bull's History Lesson from nineteen seventy six. I 170 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: have not seen this. This is a Robert Altman movie. 171 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: This is on my list of Altman films I want 172 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: to watch on Criterion right now. I haven't seen this yet. 173 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: I can't really comment on it. The next movie, The 174 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: Verdict in nineteen eighty two. Look, this is one of 175 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 1: the goats, you know, Sydney Limett directing script by David Mammott, 176 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: the best script. David mammontt ever wrote this is a 177 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: tie for me for Paul Newman's greatest performance, with the 178 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: next one on this list, which is the Color of 179 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 1: Money from nineteen eighty six. Martin Scorsese movie with Tom Cruise, 180 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:49,920 Speaker 1: and again we've talked about this recently. I mean, this 181 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,319 Speaker 1: is just this is lights out for me. And then 182 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:54,520 Speaker 1: the final movie on this list is Road to Perdition 183 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: from two thousand and two, which is a totally underrated 184 00:09:57,520 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: Prohibition era crime drama that coast Tom Hanks, directed by 185 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 1: Sam Mendez. I believe it was based on a graphic novel. 186 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: But this is a great movie. If you have not 187 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: seen this, I think it's Paul Newman's final screen performance 188 00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: as well. Now, if Jake Brennan is listening to this, 189 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: I can already hear him bitching and moaning in the 190 00:10:14,679 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: background that slap Shot is not on this list. And 191 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: if we're talking about rewatchability over historical importance, I would 192 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: definitely replace one of those earlier ones in the list 193 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: with slap Shot with Nobody's Fool. Maybe even a quick 194 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 1: shout out to the Coen Brothers The Hudsucker Proxy, which 195 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: is a dark horse in their catalog and the one 196 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 1: time they ever worked with Newman. I think some of 197 00:10:35,400 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: these might take preston for me over movies like cat Anda, 198 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: Hunting Roof, and hud and The Hustler, and I know 199 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 1: that sack really just say about the hustler. But if 200 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: I had to choose between that and the Color of Money, 201 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: I would totally take the color of Money. That's just 202 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 1: where I'm at. Okay, what do you think? What do 203 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: you make of that list? Do you have any changes 204 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: that you would make in there? Any unsung Paul Newman 205 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: films you want to talk about? Is there any other 206 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 1: actor or actress who can compare with his realness? Who 207 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 1: can stand on a street corner holding beers with a 208 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: get really Stone t shirt and then turn around and 209 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: start a camp for kids with serious illnesses? Who let 210 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: me know, is he a one of one? Send me 211 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: a text to call me six one seven nine oh 212 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: six six six three eight next week in your feed 213 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: on Monday, We've got another one of one to get 214 00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: to here Robert Mitcham, and this episode has got a 215 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: daring escape from a chain gain, it's got a reefer 216 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: party bust, and the untouchable vibe of what some would 217 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,439 Speaker 1: say was one of Hollywood's greatest true misanthrops. So definitely 218 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: check out that episode coming to you next week on 219 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: Robert Mitcham. Okay, I've got all kinds of stuff to 220 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: talk to you about this week. So much stuff, including 221 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 1: messages from all of you, which I'm going to get 222 00:11:48,480 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: to right after this. Oh right, all right, all right, 223 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Rap Party, your weekly bonus episode 224 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: of the Hollywood Lamb Podcast. And of course this is 225 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: the part of the show where I get to interact 226 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: with all of you out there in Hollywood lands. Let's 227 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: see what has happening here. We've got a bunch of 228 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: text messages this week. The text machine was crankin. Let's see, 229 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: speaking of we were just talking about Redford and Newman 230 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:32,680 Speaker 1: and everything. Got a text here from the six one 231 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,080 Speaker 1: five that says, just wanted to add for a chuckle 232 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:39,720 Speaker 1: about my favorite Robert Redford movie. My then husband in 233 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: my twenties saw in decent Proposal at the theater. We 234 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,040 Speaker 1: walk out and my husband asks, would you do that 235 00:12:46,080 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: for a million dollars? I said, with Robert Redford, I 236 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: would do it for free? Oh thank you? Six one five. Yes. 237 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,640 Speaker 1: One of the great existential questions of nineteen ninety cinema. 238 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: Would you sleep with Robert right for a million dollars? 239 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: I don't think you were alone. I think every couple 240 00:13:06,120 --> 00:13:09,440 Speaker 1: that walked out of that theater were asking their spouses 241 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 1: and their partners the exact same question. I feel like 242 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 1: just as big of a deal with this movie, though 243 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 1: at the time was Woody Harrelson playing a dramatic role? 244 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: Am I right? Wasn't this the first time he made 245 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:24,080 Speaker 1: that shift from into that other gear? And everybody was like, 246 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: wait a minute, what are you from cheers? You know, 247 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 1: I got to confess something here. I don't think i've 248 00:13:29,520 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 1: you know what, I think I did see this at 249 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: some point. I saw part of it, probably on VHS 250 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: or on TV or something back in the day, but 251 00:13:37,679 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: I honestly can't really remember it. I remember the trailer 252 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:42,640 Speaker 1: playing all the time on TV or seeing it in 253 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 1: the theaters and stuff, but I can't really remember much 254 00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,200 Speaker 1: of this movie. And honestly, it's a whole thing. It's 255 00:13:49,280 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: like Fatal Attraction. I haven't seen it, basic instinct, I 256 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: haven't seen it. I know there's slightly different movies, but 257 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 1: the erotic thriller like just isn't my thing. But maybe 258 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,959 Speaker 1: I should go back. And I know six one five 259 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: you're saying this is your favorite Red From movies, so 260 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: maybe I should give this a shot again. Adrian Lyne, 261 00:14:05,400 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: who directed This movie cornered the market at that time 262 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: for this certain kind of erotic thriller, the likes of 263 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: which just does not exist anymore. He directed movies like 264 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: Nine and a half Weeks, Fail, Attraction, Unfaithful. This also 265 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:22,680 Speaker 1: came out at a time when movies were titled this way. 266 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: They they all sound like things that someone is being 267 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: charged with in a court of law. It's like indecent proposal, 268 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 1: executive decision, final analysis, unlawful entry, basic instinct, cruel intentions. 269 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 1: Like movie's got a title like that, and odds are 270 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: that you're in for some sort of erotic thriller and 271 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: it's probably starring Michael Douglas or Kurt Russell. Okay, six 272 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: one five, Thanks again so much for that text. Okay, 273 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 1: another text here, this one from let's see. Oh we 274 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 1: were talking about best on screen duos last week and 275 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:56,520 Speaker 1: a little bit again this week with Redford and Newman. 276 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: So I got a text from the seven to six' 277 00:14:58,440 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: five here that Says zeth metal Head. Monday here from 278 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: the seven six' five Best on Screen Duo burt Reynolds 279 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: and dom delo ees, full stop not, Taking questions no 280 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 1: need to discuss seven to. Sixty five this is A 281 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: great this is a great answer to that question about 282 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 1: best on. SCREEN duos I think Bert and dom. WERE 283 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: in i did a quick search six, movies together though 284 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 1: that includes an. Animated movie but this example perfectly fits. 285 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,640 Speaker 1: THE bill i think the qualifications to be in the 286 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: running for best duo is you have To have you've 287 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: got to have that odd, couple Charm that Yin. And 288 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 1: Yang but Bert and dom spelled this up perfectly because 289 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: you've got the sex symbol and the. Comic relief It's 290 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: the Martin and, lewis, Formula right you've got to have 291 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:48,000 Speaker 1: the straight guy and the guy. Who's crazy so, FOR 292 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: that i think you're right on. Track here thank you 293 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,080 Speaker 1: so much for. That text we were talking about. Ensemble 294 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: movies somebody had called In about it's, A, Mad Mad Mad. 295 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: Mad world just want to MAKE sure i got an mads. 296 00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: In there so this text from the four one to, five, 297 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:06,120 Speaker 1: Says hey Zeth Puts scavenger hunt in the mix for best. 298 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 1: ENSEMBLE film a great snapshot of the late seventies with 299 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: so many. Familiar faces also one of the most absurdly annoying, 300 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 1: Characters Ever. Georgie carruthers keep up the. Awesome work four. 301 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 1: One five thank you. FOR this i have never heard 302 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: of This Movie, scavenger HUNT so i looked, it up 303 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: and you. Are correct so many, familiar faces a lot 304 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: of THESE names i didn't really know, by name but 305 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,520 Speaker 1: you look them up and they're all these great character 306 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: actors from all these movies that WERE on TV when 307 00:16:34,760 --> 00:16:38,320 Speaker 1: i was. A kid this Movie's Got Richard, Benjamin, James, Coco, 308 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: scatman cruthers who you might Remember From The Shining, Ruth Gordon, 309 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Chloris Leachman, clevon Little the Shrif From, Blazing saddles. Roddy 310 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: McDowell robert morley is In This. Robert morley hold on, 311 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: Sidebar Here. Robert morley he's The classic english gentleman that's 312 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: sort of. His thing And In The Great, muppet caper 313 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 1: which is The best, muppet movie fight Me, When kermit 314 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:04,359 Speaker 1: Fozzy and gonzo were tossed from the plane near the 315 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: beginning of, the movie and those they're in the cargo 316 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: hold and they're tossed and they land in like this 317 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: little Pond. In london he's The stately english gentleman on 318 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,719 Speaker 1: the park bench who directs them to the shitty hotel 319 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: they Go To. ROBERT morley i fucking love, that guy, 320 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,399 Speaker 1: all right who Also Got, Richard Mulligan, Tony Randall Richard, Missouri, 321 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Maser Sorry, vincent price Cameos By arnold schwarzenegger And, meat 322 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: loaf and the four one five here is Talking About 323 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: georgie carroll is one of the characters in here being 324 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: the most absurdly annoying, characters ever which that's a, great 325 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,159 Speaker 1: subject by, the way characters you love. To hate my 326 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 1: mind immediately Goes To vince fawn's character in The. Movie 327 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,919 Speaker 1: made what are some others let, me know four, one 328 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: five what are some other annoying characters that you love? 329 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 1: To hate everybody else out, there listening give me a 330 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 1: ring and let. Me know we had an Episode On carrie, 331 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: fisher RECENTLY and i got this text from the six 332 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: four six, that said great Episode On. Carrie fisher check 333 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 1: out the urn she put her. Remains in just. Google, 334 00:18:07,600 --> 00:18:11,199 Speaker 1: it ha you don't have to ask. Me TWICE so 335 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: I Googled carrie fisher earn and it turns out that 336 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 1: she was, her remains her cremated remains were put Into 337 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:23,959 Speaker 1: a prozac pill. Shaped urn it was this porcelain antique 338 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: prozac pill from the. Nineteen fifties that was one of her, 339 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: prize POSSESSIONS which, i mean this is so on brand 340 00:18:30,160 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: with her sense. Of humor. IT'S amazing i was curious. 341 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: About this, i'm, LIKE man, i wonder how else have other, 342 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: you know actors or actresses or celebrities? Been buried, you know. 343 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 1: Just CURIOUS and i apologize that this is a, morbid 344 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: topic but it just kind of. Fascinates ME so i 345 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:48,880 Speaker 1: did a quick search here and here are some other 346 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: interesting ways in which people. Were Buried, george Burns, oh god. 347 00:18:53,320 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: You devil you know he was buried with three cigars in. His, 348 00:18:56,000 --> 00:19:00,199 Speaker 1: pocket okay that's that's not. Too Crazy roald dahl is 349 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,440 Speaker 1: buried with some of, his books along with a bottle, 350 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:07,359 Speaker 1: of burgundy some, snooker, cues pencils and a. POWER saw 351 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: i don't know what he needs the power, saw for but. 352 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 1: That's Fascinating, baila lugosi, of Course played dracula back on 353 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: the day he, was buried Dressed, as dracula including. The 354 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Cape miles davis allegedly was buried with one of. His trumpets, 355 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: all right and then these two are may take. The 356 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: Cake william burrows was reportedly buried with, a, sword cane a, 357 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 1: ballpoint pen, a fedora, a joint and a loaded, thirty, 358 00:19:36,440 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: eight which if you Know About, william burrows THAT'S a 359 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: i don't KNOW that i would trust him with a, 360 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: thirty eight even in. The afterlife And Then, frank sinatra 361 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: this is, just incredible buried with a Bottle Of, jack 362 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:54,199 Speaker 1: daniels a Pack, of Camels a, zippo lighter and a 363 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: dollar's worth of dimes so that, you know in case 364 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 1: he needed to use a payphone on the, OTHER side 365 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 1: i guess thanks six four six for making me aware. 366 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 1: Of this i'm bringing up. This topic if any of 367 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 1: you out there know of any other weird or, interesting 368 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: burials or you've got a character that you love, to 369 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,720 Speaker 1: hate or a better on screen Duo than Bert, and 370 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: dom hit me up and let me know six one 371 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,600 Speaker 1: seven nine oh six six six. Three eight you can 372 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 1: also email Me At disgrace lampod at gmail. Dot, COM 373 00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,640 Speaker 1: okay i got to take a, quick break but, hang 374 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:53,720 Speaker 1: tight cats. And kittens i'll be right back with. Some recommendations, oh, 375 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: right everybody welcome back To the. Wrap Parties zeth lundy here, 376 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:01,880 Speaker 1: once AGAIN and i want to talk to you ABOUT 377 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,280 Speaker 1: what i have, been Watching what i've been, listening To 378 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: what i've been filling my free. Time with when it 379 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 1: comes To what, I'm watching i'm Still watching TASK that. 380 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 1: Hbo show we're three episodes In and i'm just going 381 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: to say, IT now I Think tom pelfrey is delivering 382 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,040 Speaker 1: a performance that will go down as one of THE 383 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 1: greatest tv performances of the twenty. First century. I'm serious 384 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 1: i'm not going to say that it's up There With 385 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: james Gandolfini As. Tony Soprano But tom pelfrey is just 386 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: doing the. Damn thing and it's not Just his. Pennsylvania 387 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: accent he is delivering this incredibly nuanced take on this 388 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: guy who's got all. These demons he's got a lot 389 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 1: of pain and trauma in. His past he's got a 390 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: reason to be out for, this mendetta but he also has, 391 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: a family and his family is a large part of 392 00:21:55,480 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: why he's wrapped up and when he's wrapped Up in 393 00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: i'm trying to say this all a way that doesn't, 394 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: spoil It But tom pelfrey is just phenomenal in. This 395 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 1: show and if he doesn't come out of the show 396 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 1: being a much bigger star than he was going. Into 397 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 1: it then something's fucked, up there because this IS again 398 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,239 Speaker 1: i think this is going to go down as one 399 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 1: of the greatest performances of this CENTURY. In tv it is. 400 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: JUST incredible i also Started Binging, black rabbit which is 401 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: the new crime Thriller on Netflix Starring jude Law And. 402 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:28,120 Speaker 1: Jason bateman this is Created By zach Balen And. Kate 403 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:33,159 Speaker 1: Sussman zach balen is. A screenwriter he wrote the Screenplay For, 404 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:35,399 Speaker 1: king richard which he was nominated For an. Oscar for 405 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,679 Speaker 1: he's Also written, creed Three That bob, marley movie and 406 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: he wrote this Movie Called, the order which was pretty 407 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: solid that came out a couple of. YEARS ago i 408 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: Think With, jude law if you haven't, seen it it's. 409 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 1: Worth it, but anyways this series is about. Two brothers 410 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: they used to be in a band back on the 411 00:22:51,000 --> 00:22:52,840 Speaker 1: Day Called. Black rabbit now they have a Restaurant In 412 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: New york City Called. Black rabbit, and again without spoiling, 413 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,439 Speaker 1: too much this is one of those great premises, OF 414 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: like i need to get this impossible amount of money 415 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: together to pay off this debt by tomorrow or else 416 00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: they're going to. Kill me you hook me with, That premise. 417 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,719 Speaker 1: I'm in i'm. Fully in so that's the, opening premise 418 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:12,119 Speaker 1: but then it completely spirals into something far. More complex 419 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: there are so many hurdles and obstacles being tossed in 420 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,360 Speaker 1: front of. These guys none of it. Feels Forced And 421 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: jason bateman's really solidifying himself as one of the few 422 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:25,639 Speaker 1: actors who can remain funny like an acid burn funny inside, 423 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: a drama, a thriller a show that is anything. But 424 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: funny and if this show Didn't Have jason bateman's like 425 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: gen x, flavored sarcasm it would just be too serious 426 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: the show that, you know it's just the perfect balance for, 427 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:42,840 Speaker 1: this show and that's why it works. So well i've been, Binging, 428 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: IT honestly i spent a lot of my weekend, watching 429 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: THIS so I think i'm two episodes away from. Being 430 00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:53,720 Speaker 1: done highly recommend this if you want a new crimey 431 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,840 Speaker 1: drama thriller series to. CHECK out i did find some 432 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: time during early mornings this weekend to watch some Of 433 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 1: Those robert altman movies On The, criterion CHANNEL so i 434 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,679 Speaker 1: can get some use out of my subscription fee there for. The, 435 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: MONTH okay i. WATCHED two I Watched california split from 436 00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy Four With elliott Gould And, george siegel AND 437 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: then i watched McCabe And missus miller from nineteen seventy 438 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: One With warren Batty And. Julie christie these are both 439 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 1: five star masterpieces in. MY book i had Not Seen california. 440 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: SPLIT yet i have seen McKay And missus. Miller before 441 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: this IS what i wrote In my letterbox Review For. 442 00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,520 Speaker 1: California split, and again if You're on letterbox the, letterbox 443 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: app go over there and. Find me I'm, at zeth Not, 444 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 1: Seth Okay So. California split peak turtleneck under the button up. 445 00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: Lawn sleeve this Is What george. Siegel's wearing he's got the, 446 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: turtle neck the. Button up it's just people don't do. 447 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 1: That Anymore peak PINTO'S And, Vw Bugs Peak, Pole, Top 448 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:55,240 Speaker 1: Budweiser first thing in, The morning peak Women. Named barbara 449 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: this might be the Best movie i've seen, about gambling 450 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: about the compulsions that, we chase and the high highs 451 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: and the crushing lows that we experience when we finally 452 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: get what we've. Been Chasing And elliot Gould And george 453 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: siegel are awesome in. This movie. So, good okay now Mcaven. 454 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,680 Speaker 1: Missus miller we've talked a Lot about westerns over the last, 455 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 1: few MONTHS and i think this is The only Western 456 00:25:24,560 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 1: that altman, ever made and it. Might be it's definitely 457 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: in the conversation as The greatest western of, all time 458 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: but it's not the Kind of western that you're thinking. 459 00:25:33,160 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: It is some call it A, revisionist Western anti western 460 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: because it doesn't sort of subverts the normal tropes Of, the. 461 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: Western right but you know what struck me about this 462 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,040 Speaker 1: as far as it being in the conversation as The, 463 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,919 Speaker 1: best western is that it just feels, so authentic. Like 464 00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: everything it feels like you are in this. Real town 465 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: there's this place Outside, Of, Boston, sturbridge Massachusetts Called Old 466 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: sturbridge village that my aunt and uncle and cousins took 467 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,680 Speaker 1: me TO when i was like ten years old back in. 468 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: The day and if you don't Know About Old, stirbridge 469 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,600 Speaker 1: village it's like. This working it's like an old timey 470 00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: village where all these people are performing the parts of 471 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 1: people inside, This village like there's the cobbler and there's 472 00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: the blacksmith and, you know the town priest, and whatever 473 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 1: and all these people are all playing these roles and 474 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: the whole point is that, you're like it's this immersive 475 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,399 Speaker 1: experience into how life used, to be and when you 476 00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: talk to, these people they talk to you as their 477 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 1: characters and not as you know themselves in modern times. 478 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: OR whatever i haven't been Back To Old sturbridge VILLAGE 479 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: since i was. Ten son, you know don't trust my 480 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: judgment here on whether or not this is a realistic 481 00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,439 Speaker 1: experience to. GO there i, don't KNOW but i was 482 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 1: thinking about that experience because this movie it's just like 483 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: the rooms are lit only by like these. Dim lanterns 484 00:26:57,480 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: the cigarettes even are they look like they're just like 485 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 1: these discolored little Nubs That julie christie's got in between, 486 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,160 Speaker 1: her fingers and like it doesn't feel like, a prop 487 00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: is what is? My point and then you know you've 488 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: got McCabe having nothing but a raw egg and a 489 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: glass of whiskey. For breakfast it's it's. Really hardcore. It's 490 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 1: Authenticity and i'm going to put on my film school 491 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: nerd hat here for, two SECONDS but i think that 492 00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: this movie is about thinking you're the smartest person in 493 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,359 Speaker 1: the room or in McCabe's situation in, the town and 494 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: then having someone who's smarter, than You, missus miller come 495 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 1: along and turn everything. Upside down and there's also these 496 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,440 Speaker 1: takeaways here when it comes to trying to strike out 497 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: on business, for yourself in attempting to defy the big 498 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 1: corporations who want to buy, you out and how that, 499 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: even then back in the early, nineteen hundreds this could 500 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: be an act. Of futility these are only some of 501 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: the few of the ideas that are floating around in. 502 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: This movie it's, memorable music the Songs Of, leonard cohen 503 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: it's the only music in, this movie the Stranger Song, 504 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: winter lady and The incredible Sisters. Of mercy and then 505 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: the last, twenty minutes which all you hear is. Wind 506 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: blowing there's just like snowstorm and there's just like, wind 507 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: blowing and there's this incredible Tension As warren batty's character 508 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 1: McCabe is trying to trying, to survive trying to outrun 509 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: these guys that have come to. Kill him this tension 510 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,920 Speaker 1: that's held as it builds to this inevitable de neumont 511 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: is just It's A. Chef's kiss they do not make 512 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: them like they. Used to, All right That's what i'm 513 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: Watching when i'm listening to. YOU know i don't Know 514 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: if i've talked about this, at ALL but i listen 515 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: to a lot of instrumental STUFF while. I write i 516 00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 1: need music often when, i'm WRITING but i don't like 517 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 1: listening to music with lyrics because it's. Too distracting a 518 00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 1: lot Of times i'll Listen, to CULTURING like i Love the, 519 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: ballads record but, for writing like a Record like ola. 520 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 1: Is perfect it's especially that, first track it's just this, 521 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 1: big drone. You Know alice coltrane stuff is. Great too 522 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,240 Speaker 1: but this week it's been a lot of Boards, of 523 00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:07,960 Speaker 1: canada a Lot of Tortoise. For Tet trent Reznor And 524 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:11,600 Speaker 1: anarchist ross's scores are also repeat listens for ME as. 525 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I write i've been trying to really get into these 526 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,480 Speaker 1: Few new Tam and paula tracks that have been released 527 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 1: ahead of the New, album Deadbeat but i'm struggling a. 528 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: LITTLE bit i Think That, Inner speaker Lonerism. And currents 529 00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: Tame and paula's first three records are like a one 530 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:30,040 Speaker 1: two three. MASTERPIECE run i love all those. So much 531 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 1: but it Seems Like kevin parker isn't going back to 532 00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 1: the spased out psychedelic rock thing that he started WITH 533 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: that i love. So much, You know he's been doing 534 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: these collaborations With Like dua Lipa, and justice And the 535 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: justice stuff. Was cool the duo is. Just Okay and 536 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: i'm NOT saying i want him to go backwards pun 537 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: intended if you know. The Song but i'm just not 538 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 1: feeling these new tunes as MUCH as i would. Hope 539 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,760 Speaker 1: to but, That said i'm still looking optimistically to that, 540 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 1: new RECORD which i think is out in like a month. 541 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Or so, Also so i've been listening a lot To 542 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 1: the Ramones Album the end Of. The century What are 543 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: ramones fans think of? This ONE because i can get 544 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: why it wouldn't be the top of a big fans 545 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 1: list since it's less punk and more pop and it's 546 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 1: produced by everyone's favorite, Crazy Producer, phil spector who made 547 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of this record while holding them. A GUNPOINT 548 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: but i. DON'T know I just i love. THESE songs 549 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: i love how. This sounds do you remember rock? And? 550 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,160 Speaker 1: Roll radio rock? And Roll? High school danny says is, 551 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 1: On here Chinese Rock man it's just, so GREAT and 552 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: i love how, it SOUNDS and i LOVE how i 553 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 1: Don't Think joey ramone was hiding anything when he was 554 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: basically recycling these old girl group song tropes in a, 555 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: much faster. Punkier FORMAT but i really like the blatant 556 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:58,520 Speaker 1: sort of connection here that is made between the music 557 00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,360 Speaker 1: of the early sixties and the punk movement of the. 558 00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: Late seventies and this album came out in, nineteen eighty 559 00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:09,480 Speaker 1: which was seventeen years After the Ronette SONG Baby I 560 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:12,000 Speaker 1: love you, came out Which the ramones cover on, this 561 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,880 Speaker 1: album and you, just like look at how much things. Had. 562 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: Changed right if this were, happening today it would, be like, 563 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 1: you know just to talk About someone i's. Talked about 564 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,480 Speaker 1: it'd Be like Tam and paula covering something Off of 565 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: Radioheads in, rainbow's album which came out seventeen, years ago 566 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 1: Or Covering Coldplay's, viva LaVita which came out seventeen. Years 567 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: ago i'm miss arbitrarian picking songs and. Artists here but 568 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: how much different does twenty twenty five sound than two thousand? 569 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 1: And eight? You know is it as different as nineteen 570 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: eighty sounded from nineteen, SIXTY three i don't. Think so 571 00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: this Was something jake was talking about on the, after 572 00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,920 Speaker 1: party and it's really been in my brain a. LOT 573 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: recently i. Don't know it's kind of fascinating to think 574 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: about how decades had their own feel and sound for 575 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,200 Speaker 1: a while and they don't so. Much ANYMORE and i 576 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: feel like this is an example. Of that but do 577 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: you know what sounds as cutting edge now and as 578 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 1: great now as it did in nineteen, seventy seven arguably 579 00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: even more so Than the ramones in? My book please 580 00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: don't come, at Me but i'm Just Saying, talking, heads 581 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:19,560 Speaker 1: okay THEIR double lp. Live compilation the name of this 582 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: Band Is, talking heads which covers live recordings between nineteen 583 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: seventy seven and nineteen. Eighty one this album has been 584 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: overshadowed throughout history by stopped making sense their concert film 585 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: and the album from the, concert Film which jake was 586 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: saying the other week it was not in his top 587 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,680 Speaker 1: ten or top five, music films or music documentaries or concert, 588 00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 1: films runner which is fucking. Crazy talk that's just the 589 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:52,680 Speaker 1: wrongest take of the most, wrong Take, Wrongest apparently I'm 590 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: as i'm as out to lunch as he was on. That, 591 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: Take anyways contrarian types like to say that the day 592 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: of this band is talking here is better than stop. 593 00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,800 Speaker 1: Making sense but they're both. Fucking great. You know talking 594 00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 1: has duds do not get enough credit for their live 595 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 1: performances and their growth over a very short period, of 596 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,040 Speaker 1: time which you can very clearly. Hear here so That's 597 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:14,080 Speaker 1: what i'm listening to, right now listening To, talking heads 598 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: listening To, the ramones listening to lots of, instrumental Music and, i'm, 599 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: curious uh you guys listening to anything, like this? Anything 600 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: different let me know what, you're watching let me know what. 601 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: You're reading give me a shout at six one seven 602 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six, THREE eight i want to, 603 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,000 Speaker 1: hear listen. HANG tight i gotta take one more, break 604 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,240 Speaker 1: Here but i'm gonna be very back with some final. 605 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: Parting thoughts yo, yo yo ladies. And gents that about 606 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: does it wraps up this here wrap party just about 607 00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 1: wraps up this feed for the week until we get 608 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: back to it next. Week on but speaking, OF feeds 609 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: i just wanted to give you a quick heads up 610 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: that tomorrow In the, disgraceland feed OR should, i say 611 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 1: In The Disgraceland all. Access Feed all access members are 612 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,759 Speaker 1: getting a, brand new fully scripted episode written by yours 613 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: Truly On. Depeche mode this is All About dave gahan's descent, 614 00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,959 Speaker 1: into addiction as he tried very deliberately to live out 615 00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 1: the hedonistic rock and roll lifestyle that he thought had 616 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: disappeared from the rock and. 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Number three make sure you're also Listening, 639 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: To Disgraceland jake brennan's, Other Show the og music and 640 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,799 Speaker 1: true crime, podcasts that in addition to that New All 641 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 1: Access depeche, mode episode has upcoming brand new episodes On, Led, 642 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: zeppelin PENTAGRAM, Ac Dc judas Priest. And moore number four 643 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: now in honor of this, week's episode me reading you 644 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 1: the list of the top grossing Films from september of 645 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: two thousand, and eight the Month That paul newman died 646 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:17,439 Speaker 1: at the age of. Eighty three Number One Burn, after 647 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:23,040 Speaker 1: reading Directed by Joel And. Ethan cohen, Number Two righteous 648 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: kill Directed By. John avnet Number Three eagle eye DIRECTED 649 00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: By Dj carusa Reno direct Number Four The Family that 650 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: praise Directed By tyler. Perry directed number Five Lake view 651 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 1: terrace Directed By See neil. La directed, Number Six, righteous 652 00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: Trouble thunder dire Directed By. Ben stills your seven quit 653 00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: talking and start. Mixing it