1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Is there any world where you do call the Raiders 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: and say, hey, would you be willing to trade that 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: number one overall selection? 4 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't do it. 5 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: On our first episode of now Boarding, we're joined by 6 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: ESPN NFL draft analysts and good friend Matt Miller. That's right, 7 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: Draft season is officially here and we're just getting started. 8 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 3: I asked Matt, if it's a three horse. 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,919 Speaker 1: Race for number two overall between three edge rushers and 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: r VL Reeves, David Bailey and Ruben Bain, which player 11 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,720 Speaker 1: is the perfect fit for the Jets in whom he 12 00:00:32,760 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: would draft to line up opposite star receiver Garrett Wilson. 13 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: Miller also talks about why he would not trade up 14 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: with the Raiders in order to draft Fernando Mendoza if 15 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: given the opportunity. Let's bring an ESPN NFL draft analyst, 16 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: Matt Miller. How many years is this for you now 17 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: covering the draft? 18 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 2: We're right off the top of how old I am? 19 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 4: I see this is your number sixteen, and you know 20 00:00:57,960 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 4: from back in the day of the Jets in in 21 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 4: the car to pick me up in Manhattan so I 22 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 4: could come do TV with you guys all the time. 23 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: It's it's been fun. 24 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: Man. 25 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 4: I so much appreciate how supportive you guys have always been. 26 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 4: It's always fun to get to a new draft cycle 27 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 4: and get to talk to you about these players. 28 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: All right, man, I really appreciate those warm wishes. So 29 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:18,759 Speaker 1: let's put you on a hot seat right now as 30 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,399 Speaker 1: we get started. The Jets are going to exhaust all 31 00:01:22,440 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 1: options at the quarterback position. With that being said, Matt 32 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: should quarterback be in play at number two overall in 33 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: the first round. 34 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 4: No, not at all, not unless you have a way 35 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,440 Speaker 4: to convince the Las Vegas Raiders to trade off that 36 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 4: number one spot where you have an option to get 37 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 4: Fernando Mendoza from Indiana. This is a one quarterback draft 38 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 4: for me in the first round. Tye Simpsons from Alabama 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 4: maybe is a late round one option. I don't I 40 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 4: have a first round greade on him currently. We'll see 41 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 4: what changes at the combine next week when we get there. 42 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 4: But this is a Fernando Mendoza draft at quarterback. So unfortunately, 43 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: the Jets, Santalanta, other teams are going to be in 44 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 4: a position where you have that need, that clear cut 45 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: new at the quarterback spot. But you're not gonna be 46 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 4: able to fill that void, and so I think this 47 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 4: becomes a draft where you try to set the table 48 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 4: for that quarterback when you can get them. And maybe 49 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 4: that's twenty twenty seven, Maybe something happens with the trade 50 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 4: or free agency. But I think with the draft, with 51 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,959 Speaker 4: those two picks in the top sixteen, you have to 52 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: think about building the infrastructure for that quarterback. You've got 53 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 4: two young offensive tackles, got a good young wide receiver 54 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 4: Garrett Wilson. Now it's about building up that team so 55 00:02:24,400 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 4: that when you get that QB one, they're ready to 56 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:27,399 Speaker 4: come in a win. 57 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 3: How about Simpson? Though the pros and cons means. 58 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: A couple months ago, we might have met talking and 59 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,560 Speaker 1: you would have said at that point, or maybe fellow 60 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: draft pundits would have said, hey, maybe this guy's in 61 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: the top. 62 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 3: Of the first round. What has changed since then? 63 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: You know there's a number, Eric, It's twenty five, and 64 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 4: that's the number of starts the NFL scouts want to 65 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 4: see from a quarterback before they go to the NFL. 66 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 4: Ty Simpson sitting at fifteen. He was a four year 67 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 4: player at Alabama but only started this past season. And 68 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 4: I think you see some of the highs and lows. 69 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 4: From the first nine games of the year, he looks like, yeah, 70 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: maybe we was talking about a top ten pick. The 71 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:03,639 Speaker 4: final six games, he looks like a player that probably 72 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 4: should have gone back to the school for another year. 73 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 4: And I have questions about a situation where Alabama basically 74 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: said we're ready to move on to the next guy, 75 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,960 Speaker 4: Keilan Russell. They're ready to get their youngster in at quarterback. 76 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 4: Ty Simpson would have had to hit the transfer portal 77 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: had he gone back to college. So when you have 78 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:20,920 Speaker 4: a program that's already looking at the next guy, I 79 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 4: think that does raise some questions about your your ability, 80 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 4: your your upside, and then your your pro readiness. Only 81 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 4: having fifteen starts, But that's going to be the key 82 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 4: at the end of a combine when teams talked to 83 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 4: ty Simpson, is what happened? Why was the drop off there? 84 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 4: And I know he got banged up a little bit 85 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 4: over the later half of the season. Why the drop off? 86 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 4: Is it because teams started figuring you out, because teams 87 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:43,680 Speaker 4: got tape on you. And then how do you overcome 88 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 4: that lack of experience, Because you know a lot of 89 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,440 Speaker 4: people would say, oh, you drafted him and let him sit. 90 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 2: He just needs it. He needs to play football. 91 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 4: We've seen this with with Trey Lance and other players 92 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:54,160 Speaker 4: that didn't have a lot of college experience. 93 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 2: They got drafted, they sat, they never got on the field. 94 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 4: So wherever Ty Simpson goes, he's gonna have to get 95 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 4: out there and play ball early because he needs those reps. 96 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: He needs to gain that experience. 97 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: Do you have a bigger gap in between Fernando Mendoza 98 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: Anti Simpson, then Simpson and maybe the number three quarterback 99 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: on your list. 100 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:15,880 Speaker 4: No, I would say they're closer together. It would go 101 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 4: Mendoza Simpson again. I have him as an early round 102 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 4: two player, and then there's a sizeable gap, like the 103 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 4: gap between me and Missouri and you and New Jersey. 104 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,599 Speaker 4: It's that big of a gap right now. There's just 105 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,920 Speaker 4: not that QB three this year, and maybe someone rises. 106 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 4: You know, we're gonna we're gonna try our hardest over 107 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 4: the next three months to create a QB three to 108 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: create someone to fill that void. But I haven't seen 109 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 4: it from whether it be Carson Beck or Garrett Nessmeyer 110 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 4: or Kid Klubnick or now we're hearing about Cole Payton 111 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:45,360 Speaker 4: from North Dakota State, who had a pretty good Senior 112 00:04:45,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: Bowl week. There's not that player that I would feel 113 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 4: cordorable slotting in closely behind Ty Simpson. I think ultimately 114 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: for me it will probably be Garrett Nesmeyer. He had 115 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 4: a strong week of the Senior Bowl. You got to 116 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 4: twenty twenty four a LSU. The tape was pretty good. 117 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 4: This past year, he dealt with some injury. There's a 118 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 4: lot of question marks with this quarterback group. Once you 119 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 4: get past Mendoza. Nus Meyer is probably the one that 120 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 4: I feel most comfortable with, given what we've seen from 121 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 4: him in college. 122 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: The Jets have so much draft capital. We know that 123 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:15,680 Speaker 1: four picks in the top forty four overall. You look 124 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: at next year, they have three first round picks. Is 125 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: there any world where if you're GM Darren Mugi you 126 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: do call the Raiders and say, hey, would you be 127 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: willing to trade that number one overall selection? 128 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:30,279 Speaker 2: No? I wouldn't do it. 129 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 4: And I know we always fall into the trap of oh, 130 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: next year, Oh, next year, next year's gonna have this 131 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 4: player arch Manning. 132 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: It's pretty good. 133 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 4: Next year's gonna have Dante Moore, who might be the 134 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 4: number one overall pick. Hack he come out of Oregon 135 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 4: this year, I would I think it's smarter to wait 136 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 4: until next year. I don't know that Fernandoo does is 137 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:49,560 Speaker 4: a good quarterback, really good quarterback. I don't know that 138 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 4: he's the type of player I would win a mortgage 139 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,200 Speaker 4: four or five first round of draft picks for, especially 140 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 4: when this is the team that's not a quarterback away. 141 00:05:57,279 --> 00:06:00,160 Speaker 4: You know, major assets on defense have been traded away. 142 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 4: This is a rebuild. It is something that should take time. 143 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 4: This should not be a quick, fixed philosophy. So I 144 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,240 Speaker 4: do look at it and says, as much as I 145 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 4: love for Nanda Mendoza and I'm rooting for him and 146 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:14,119 Speaker 4: thinking he's gonna be a good quarterback, I think having 147 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 4: the picks this year and next year are incredibly valuable 148 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 4: to where maybe you are looking at a two draft rebuild. 149 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,000 Speaker 4: If you can hit on those four picks in the 150 00:06:23,040 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 4: top sixty four this year, then the three first rounders 151 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 4: next year, while maintaining that flexibility to go up if 152 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 4: you have to next year to get Manning or more 153 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 4: or someone else who maybe you know comes along over 154 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: the next year. 155 00:06:37,080 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: Ultimately, do you see this being a three horse race 156 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 1: at number two between three defenders, Arvel Reefs from Ohio State, 157 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,160 Speaker 1: Ruben Bain of course from Miami, and David Bailey from 158 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. 159 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's where it's at right now, and that's great 160 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 4: news for the Jets because that is a huge need 161 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 4: with Jermaine Johnson's contract coming to an end. 162 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,159 Speaker 2: Will McDonald hasn't exactly produced. 163 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 4: Like a first round pick over the past several years, 164 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 4: despite you know, the great traits that he has and 165 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 4: so upside as he's young in his career. But I 166 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 4: do think it comes down to one of those edge rushers, 167 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 4: and it's almost daily which one I would pick for you. 168 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 4: It's David Bailey's speed, It's Ruben Bain's power. With Rvill Reees, 169 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:19,000 Speaker 4: it's the flexibility positionally and the upside that he brings 170 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 4: to the table. So I think that's the fun part 171 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 4: for Jets fans over the next three months is trying 172 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 4: to figure out who which guy that is? 173 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 2: You know, who is it? What best fits the scheme 174 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: that Aaron Glenn wants to run, what. 175 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: Best fits the culture that the Jets have in their 176 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:34,559 Speaker 4: locker room already and the culture that they're trying to build. 177 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 4: And they're all three fantastic players, albeit very very different players. 178 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 4: So it is going to be I think I'm jealous 179 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:45,320 Speaker 4: I'm not in that room helping make that decision and 180 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 4: having those debates, but also a little relieved that I 181 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 4: don't have to be in the room trying to decide 182 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 4: between those three great players. 183 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:55,200 Speaker 1: Who is the highest overall ceiling of those three as 184 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 1: a football player, and also who is the highest ceiling 185 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: as a pass rusher. 186 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:02,720 Speaker 2: I think this dancer is the same. I think it's R. L. 187 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 4: Reees in terms of ceiling, but he also has the 188 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: lowest floor right now, you know he's not coming in 189 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: with a huge pass rush plan because he hasn't done 190 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 4: it full time, whereas these other guys have. David Bailey 191 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 4: this was his first year as a full time starter. 192 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: Ruben Bains had tremendous production at Miami the last two years. 193 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 4: But I think with Reese, you see him scratching the 194 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 4: surface as a pass rusher, and it does remind me 195 00:08:23,320 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 4: of Micah Parsons at Penn State when Micah was playing 196 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,120 Speaker 4: all ball backer and then you see him bump down 197 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 4: on third downs. He sat out the COVID year and 198 00:08:30,680 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 4: basically learned how to be a pass rusher, and then 199 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 4: we saw that once he got to the Dallas Cowboys 200 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 4: as a rookie, where they split him between the two positions. 201 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 2: I think for Olivo Reese, it's kind of the same idea. 202 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 4: You could come in, you could play some off ball linebacker, 203 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,559 Speaker 4: you could stack a little bit, but then on third down, 204 00:08:44,600 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 4: we know you're gonna pin your ears back and go 205 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 4: get the quarterback and then eventually transition to that as 206 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: a full time role. So I think the upside is 207 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,079 Speaker 4: the highest for him, but it is a gamble, and 208 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 4: I think you know, Jets fans, there's a long history 209 00:08:56,559 --> 00:08:59,680 Speaker 4: of swinging hard on traits at the pass rusher position. 210 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 4: Reese is in another guy in that category of you're 211 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 4: betting on the upside, you're betting on the development, and 212 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 4: in some degree you're betting on your coaching staff being 213 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: able to take him to where he can get as 214 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: a player. 215 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: Matt, let's play something we'd like to call prospect punjulum. 216 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 1: Let's talk about a couple of great players at non 217 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: premium positions, starting with the Ohio State safety Caleb Downs. 218 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 3: Where do you stand on him? 219 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 4: I think he's probably the best pure football player in 220 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 4: the draft. 221 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 2: Class. 222 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,240 Speaker 4: It's hemer Jeremiah Love the running back, Notre Dame downs Is. 223 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 4: They do it all safety. And I know he doesn't have, 224 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 4: you know, the elite size, He's not six three, two fifteen, 225 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 4: but he does have his elite processing ability and he's 226 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 4: so smart. The football IQ is through the roof, playing 227 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 4: under coach Saban, then playing under Matt Patricia. He's been 228 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 4: asked to do a lot of different things from the 229 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: safety position. You can walk him up in the box, 230 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 4: you can play him single high, you can play split 231 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 4: safeties with him. I think his coverage ability to carry 232 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 4: tight ends and receivers is really, really, really good. He's 233 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 4: just a complete player, and I think we have an 234 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 4: opportunity to overthink things in the next two weeks as. 235 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: It relates to player evaluation. 236 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 4: I would caution people don't forget the Caleb Downs is 237 00:10:04,760 --> 00:10:07,440 Speaker 4: just a really really good football player. Let's not get 238 00:10:07,520 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 4: way too caught up in arm length or you know, 239 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 4: is he six oh one? 240 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 2: Oh? Is he you know two oh five or two ten. 241 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 4: I think we go back and watch three years of 242 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 4: football at Alabama and Ohio State. Remember this dude was 243 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 4: a difference maker and in a racer in so many 244 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,839 Speaker 4: different matchup scenarios that they put him in over the 245 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: last three years. 246 00:10:25,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: So let's flip into the other side of the ball 247 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,320 Speaker 1: and talk about Jeremiah Love from Notre Dame. 248 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 3: A home run hitter at anytime he has the football. 249 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Homer and Hitty had a touchdown run of ninety 250 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: eight yards and a touch around of ninety four yards 251 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 2: this year. 252 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 4: It's a Notre Dame record to have multiple ninety plus 253 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 4: yard touchdown runs. He's a pretty good player, and I 254 00:10:42,000 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 4: think he's just scratching the surface of what he can 255 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 4: be as a receiver as well. You can get him 256 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 4: in the slot, you can motion him, you know, wheels 257 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 4: out of the backfield. Screen game is going to be 258 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 4: huge for him. But then he has the lower body 259 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:55,720 Speaker 4: power at six foot two fifteen to run through players. 260 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 4: He can run through that traffic. He has really good 261 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: contact balance. So he's a special prospect. We've had a 262 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: nice run of the elite running back prospects Bijon Obbison, 263 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,640 Speaker 4: e Samier Gibbs, Ashton John T. I think he's right 264 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,120 Speaker 4: there in that class with those players and deserving of 265 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 4: being a top ten pick, despite the fact that there's 266 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 4: not great position on value when it comes to running backs. 267 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: You know it has been discussed at length. 268 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 4: You know, how early is too early for a running 269 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 4: back in a draft class that is really light on 270 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,440 Speaker 4: blue chip talent. I don't know that there's a too 271 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 4: early for a player like Jeremiah Love. 272 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 1: Matt we just talked about Caleb Diwands and Jeremiah Love. 273 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: They talked about their value and what they're going to 274 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: bring to the. 275 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 3: Next level for the Jets. 276 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 1: At two and sixteen, would any of those guys figure 277 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: to be in play or would you have to move 278 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: back into the top ten to get one of those talents. 279 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: I think you're having to come back into the top 280 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: ten from sixteen. I would say two, given the Jets 281 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,640 Speaker 4: needs a at premium positions, notably pass rusher, two would 282 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 4: be a little early for those players in my view 283 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,559 Speaker 4: right now. If you're coming back up from sixteen for 284 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 4: Caleb downs possible for Jeremiah Love, I think you'd have 285 00:12:02,080 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 4: to get into probably pick number seven range for either 286 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 4: of those players. Because you have the Commanders at seven, 287 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 4: Sayings to eight, Chiefs at nine, Bengals at ten. Those 288 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 4: two are very much in play in those four spots. 289 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: So if you're trying to come up from sixteen. It 290 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 4: could be costly, and again I would caution against it 291 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 4: because you got to hold onto those three first round 292 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 4: picks for next year because you don't know what's gonna happen. 293 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 4: In terms of maybe you're once again sitting at the 294 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 4: number two overall pick instead of number one. 295 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 2: You've got to find your way. 296 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 4: Maybe you want to find your way to that number 297 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 4: one spot, or worst case scenario, you're at like six 298 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 4: or seven and you have to find a way to 299 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 4: come up to get one of those top two quarterbacks. 300 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: Matt, we're taking a deep dive into all the position 301 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: groups in the twenty twenty six draft class. You said 302 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: the wide receiver group is loaded, so right now we 303 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:50,680 Speaker 1: want to build the perfect receiver. I have five traits 304 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: for you. Who is the fastest wide out in this group? 305 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it is absolutely It's Britton Thompson from Mississippi State, 306 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 4: who led the sec and receiving yards is past year. 307 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,320 Speaker 4: Really an underrated player right now. Ea, But when we 308 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,680 Speaker 4: get to Indianapolis, he's got a shot to break Xavier 309 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 4: Worthy's record in the forty yard Daphs. It's gonna be 310 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 4: exciting when he lands up to run. He's only five nine, 311 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 4: one hundred and seventy pounds, so life worthy. He's an 312 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,800 Speaker 4: undersized player, but if you just want to talk about 313 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:18,679 Speaker 4: pure speed, burner speed, he has that. But then he 314 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 4: also produced with him leading the sec and yards without 315 00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 4: a great quarterback. 316 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 2: At Mississippi State this past year. I think he says 317 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 2: a lot about Thompson's game. 318 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 1: All Right, every wide receiver, the gotta have great hands. 319 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: Where are you going for the hands? 320 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot this year, but I still go 321 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 2: to Makay Lemon from USC. 322 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 4: I mean, he's not the biggest guy five to eleven, 323 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 4: one ninety five, but he has sticky hands and he 324 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 4: shows that without being huge, he can win at the 325 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:46,000 Speaker 4: catch point. He's incredibly tough over the middle. He's great 326 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 4: in traffic. Go back and watch the Iowa game where 327 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:52,240 Speaker 4: it's raining and the quarterbacks struggling. He had like ten 328 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 4: catches for one hundred and forty three yards, didn't put 329 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 4: a single. 330 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: One on the ground. 331 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 4: He'll had one drop this past year and despite having 332 00:13:57,920 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 4: a ton of targets for USC. 333 00:13:59,880 --> 00:14:01,719 Speaker 2: So when I think great hands, I go back to 334 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 2: mckaye Lemon. 335 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 3: Okay, let's go to route runner. 336 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: I think it's the same answer. McKayle Lemon is special. 337 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 4: He's the best route runner in the class for me, 338 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 4: and we've seen him do it over a couple of 339 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,359 Speaker 4: different positional alignments. 340 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:17,600 Speaker 2: I'll throw one other name out there, though, so we don't. 341 00:14:17,440 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 4: Just make this the mkayle Lemon show. I think Omar 342 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 4: Cooper Junior from Indiana is also a really good route runner. 343 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty four, he's playing out at the zive receiver spot. 344 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 4: Twenty twenty five. He moves into the slot so that 345 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 4: he can work angles and leverage a little bit better. 346 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 4: He is a complete route runner that's going to give 347 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: you that full tree. 348 00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: You got to be able to come down with it 349 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,960 Speaker 3: in traffic. How about contestant catchability. 350 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 4: I mean Carneal Taate from Ohio State, and there are 351 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 4: a lot of contested catching guys this year. Jordan Tyson 352 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 4: bar Amazona State, great at that, Denzel Boston and Washington 353 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: great at that, Omar Cooper, but we all remember the Penn. 354 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: State catches back in the end zone. 355 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: But I still think carneal Tate sixty three, two hundred pounds, 356 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 4: his ability to high point the ball and then the timing. 357 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 4: It's the timing of his jumps even more than some 358 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 4: of the just pure physical ability. He's so smart, soul 359 00:15:04,160 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 4: aware and just knowing, right now's my time. 360 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: And then once he gets up there, he is big 361 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: enough to shield defenders from the ball. 362 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 3: You can't measure heart. We know that. How about a 363 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 3: receiver that has the IT factor? 364 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 2: Can I send Makayle Lemon? 365 00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 3: You can? 366 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: Truly? I think he's the guy. 367 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 4: I mean, there are so many, like you said, there's 368 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 4: so many receivers that's classes that I love. Jeremy Bernard's 369 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 4: my Alabama would be another good example of someone who 370 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 4: when they needed a play, and they have Brian Williams 371 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 4: on that team, who's going to be a first round 372 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 4: pick next year, when they needed to play, Jeremy Bernard 373 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 4: was the guy. Whether it was his running back, as 374 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 4: a receiver in the slot, split wide, he was their 375 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 4: red zone target. A little bit of a bigger body guy, 376 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 4: almost built like a younger Devo Samuel, you know, with 377 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:46,360 Speaker 4: the thick lower body, almost like a running back at times. 378 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: But you know, Limon is my guy. I mean he 379 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 4: was the most clutch wide receiver in college football this 380 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 4: past year outside of Jeremiah Smith. At Ohio State, but 381 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 4: Jeremy Bernard is someone I think it's being slap on 382 00:15:56,720 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 4: a little bit right now. 383 00:15:57,840 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Jets fans will love this, Matt, because in one of 384 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,760 Speaker 1: your most recent mock drafts, you had the Jets in 385 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: fact taking USC receiver Mackay Lemon at number sixteen overall. 386 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: Which receiver in this class would be a best compliment 387 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:14,600 Speaker 1: for star receiver Garrett Wilson. 388 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's where like with Garrett, he 389 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: is such a good route runner, little bit of an 390 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 4: undersized guy. I almost look at. I always go back 391 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 4: to let's build a basketball team at wide receiver. So 392 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 4: I think you do want some size and you're gonna 393 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 4: get that more with Denzel Boston six four two twenty. 394 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,360 Speaker 4: You're gonna get that more with Malachai Fields from Notre 395 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 4: Dame who had a really good senior bole week. And 396 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 4: I think Malachai Fields is potentially an early round two player, 397 00:16:36,200 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 4: So you're you're not forcing that at sixteen necessarily, But 398 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 4: those are the types of body types that I would 399 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 4: look at to be the compliment to, you know, the 400 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 4: true route runner that Garrett Wilson has been. But the 401 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: depth at receiver in this class where you know, even 402 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 4: in round three, taking a chance to someone like Chris 403 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 4: Bell from Louisville, who I think could have been a 404 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 4: Day two player, round two player for a late knee injury. 405 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 4: He's six three, two twenty and a speed. That's the 406 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 4: type of player I would want opposite someone like Garrett Wilson. 407 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 1: Matt, you're covering the draft every day of the year, 408 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: but on ESPN, you will be on the big station 409 00:17:10,960 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 1: there on Day three, so you know the gems better 410 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: than anybody. Let's go on offensive side of the ball. 411 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 1: The offensive side of the ball. Give me a diamond 412 00:17:18,760 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: in the rough that fan should keep their eye out for. 413 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 2: Man. I think we'll stay at wide receiver. 414 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 4: Reggie Virgil from Texas, Texas, somebody I really liked at 415 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 4: the at the Senior Bowl. 416 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 2: He'll be at the Combine. 417 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 4: He is probably in that range if we could see 418 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 4: him get into the top one hundred picks. Just how 419 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 4: good of a pre draft process he's had so far, 420 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 4: and if he keeps it up six two, one eighty seven, 421 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:41,720 Speaker 4: he could play on the slot. He's an excellent route runner, 422 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:45,560 Speaker 4: still loose route runner and great hands. He had a 423 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 4: really big weekend mobile. I'm banking on him following that 424 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 4: up with a big week in Indianapolis and him being 425 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 4: one of those players that we're talking about as a 426 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 4: Round three wide receiver that could blossom and build into 427 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 4: being a starter in the NFL. 428 00:17:56,880 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: Let's flip it to the defensive side of the ball. 429 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: I know really like the safeties in this class. Are 430 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,520 Speaker 1: there any safeties that the Jets potentially could find on 431 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: Day three? 432 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 2: Oh? 433 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: Absolutely, it's such a good safety class that you mentioned. 434 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,639 Speaker 4: Bud Clark from TCU is one of my favorites. Little 435 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: bit undersized, he sub two hundred pounds, six foot sub 436 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: two hundred pounds, but he is just a playmaker and 437 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: we saw that again, we saw a mobile and I 438 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 4: think that's the key for these guys is you want 439 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 4: to build that momentum from your All Star game, whether 440 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 4: it's East West Ryan or the Senior Bowl, build that 441 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 4: into the combine, ace that build that into your pro day. 442 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 2: That's how you elevate your stock. But Bud Clark is 443 00:18:31,640 --> 00:18:32,720 Speaker 2: up there from TCU. VJ. 444 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 4: Pain from Kansas State is going to have a fantastic 445 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 4: week of the Combine. He's such an easy athlete that 446 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,440 Speaker 4: is is kind of fun to think about the things 447 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 4: that he can do in terms of vertical jump forty 448 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,560 Speaker 4: times three cod times. So he's someone that I think 449 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 4: will also elevate into that probably early round four at 450 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 4: the latest. 451 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 3: Matt, it's time for our final boarding call. 452 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: The Jets hit eight picks in all again, two in 453 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: the first round, two in the second round. Four picks 454 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,679 Speaker 1: in the top forty four overall. What must Darren Mouji 455 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 1: and head coach Aaron Glink get accomplished over this weekend? 456 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 4: Starters? That's the key for starters in the first forty four. 457 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 4: That would be my goal. I mean, put it on 458 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 4: a T shirt. You got to find starters. You have 459 00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 4: to build up the infrastructure because, like we talked about, 460 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,280 Speaker 4: is this the year the Jets find their quarterback of 461 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:21,439 Speaker 4: the future. Probably not, I don't know that that's this draft, 462 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 4: but this can be the year that you build that 463 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:25,960 Speaker 4: team so that when you get the quarterback, they're ready 464 00:19:25,960 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 4: to roll. And I look at New England as an 465 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 4: example of doing that in reverse almost but look what 466 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 4: the Seattle Seahawks did. They drafted well, they built on 467 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:37,200 Speaker 4: the offensive line, they built the defense, they got JSN, 468 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 4: They've got a couple running backs, the table was set, 469 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 4: and when they got Sam Darnold, they made a Super 470 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:42,120 Speaker 4: Bowl run. 471 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 2: So that's the dream scenario of how to do it. 472 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 4: Building this way, building through the draft, set in the table, 473 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 4: and then bringing the quarterback in at the right time. 474 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 1: One thing I wanted to ask is not every first 475 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: round pick is the same? 476 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 3: How many first round grades did you have this year? 477 00:19:56,960 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 3: Not many? 478 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 4: I only have eleven, and I know a lot of 479 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 4: fans were up. That's a low number. I think it's 480 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,320 Speaker 4: the lowest number I've ever given out since I started 481 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:07,639 Speaker 4: doing this professionally, and the twenty eleven draft was my 482 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 4: first one. So eleven is shockingly low. And I hope 483 00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:13,760 Speaker 4: that that's just me being a little hyper critical. Maybe 484 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 4: a couple more players slide into that as I have 485 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 4: more time for film study, as we get through interviews 486 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 4: and the combine and the workouts. 487 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,880 Speaker 2: Hopefully we get a couple more. But this is more 488 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:24,200 Speaker 2: of a. 489 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 4: Round two, round three draft than it is blue chip 490 00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 4: players at the top. 491 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: With that being said, how envious do you think other 492 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:34,160 Speaker 1: GMS are of Darren Mougi having that first pick at 493 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 1: the top of the second round. 494 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 4: That's one of the most valuable picks in the draft 495 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 4: because you're either getting a player that fell through the 496 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:43,920 Speaker 4: cracks or you're taking calls all day Friday because people 497 00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 4: want to come up and get that pick. And we 498 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 4: see that every year, right if there's usually a player 499 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: that has slipped through the cracks, and it's like, okay, 500 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 4: well we know this, we know who pick thirty three 501 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 4: is going to, because there's no way this guy should have. 502 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: Still been on the board. 503 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 4: Or you take calls all day and you can sell 504 00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 4: that thirty third pick for a ransom, and then then 505 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: maybe we're talking about having three second round picks or 506 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,040 Speaker 4: three third round picks instead of just four picks in 507 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: the first forty four. 508 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:09,119 Speaker 1: All right, Matt, you have our virtual whiteboard right now, 509 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 1: give me one prospect that you think is the perfect 510 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: match for the New York Jets over anyone. 511 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna go with David Bailey. 512 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,440 Speaker 4: I just think getting that speed off the edge is 513 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:24,880 Speaker 4: gonna be so important. And having just watched Will Campbell 514 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,040 Speaker 4: go through the postseason, knowing that that's the player that 515 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 4: you're gonna have to try to go through at left 516 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: tackle for the next ten years to get to Drake may, 517 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 4: I think you want someone that can bring that speed 518 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,159 Speaker 4: that can dip the shoulder, can really stress an offensive tackle. 519 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: Bailey does that exceptionally well. Combin's gonna be fun as 520 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 4: we try to tie break at the addresser position. But 521 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 4: the more I talk to people around the league, the 522 00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 4: more I dive into some of the individual traits of 523 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:49,080 Speaker 4: these guys. 524 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 2: David Bailey is from Texas Tech. Just continues to push 525 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:52,520 Speaker 2: up the board for me. 526 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: At NFL Draft Scout. That's Matt Miller. 527 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: He's been doing this for sixteen years. 528 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 3: We appreciate your insight as always. Brother. 529 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 2: Yeh, thank you, Guess.