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Speaker 1: like cool pictures or cool outfits and that's like that's

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00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,439
Speaker 1: so inspiring to me now and now you ask me,

428
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,600
Speaker 1: like what's in my info thing? And it's all just

429
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: like the only things that I really like am interested

430
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,600
Speaker 1: in or learning about different ways our brain work or

431
00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,520
Speaker 1: why people do what they do, astrology, because otherwise it

432
00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,600
Speaker 1: all starts to feel like so fake and fabricated to me,

433
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,399
Speaker 1: like unless people are bringing something to the table that

434
00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,760
Speaker 1: I can learn from, I'm not that interested. Right there

435
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: are like creative I still find creativity there a lot,

436
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 1: but like it's so overwhelmed with so many emotions of

437
00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 1: people all the time, and coming from a person like

438
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,320
Speaker 1: me to say that is kind of wild, but like

439
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,160
Speaker 1: I don't even want it anymore, or just like the

440
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,200
Speaker 1: noise of the arguing and like the bad news and

441
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,040
Speaker 1: it's a lot. It's um. You know, I have a

442
00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: client who's black, and she she was like she has

443
00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 1: said to me in the past, like when when a

444
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 1: young black man gets shot or a black woman gets

445
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: murdered by a police or whatever. She's like, Um, there's

446
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:25,280
Speaker 1: like social warrior um, social justice warriors who are like um,

447
00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,560
Speaker 1: posting about it constantly and talking about it constantly. It's

448
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 1: really traumatic because every time you get on social media,

449
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: it's like you're you have to relive it over and

450
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,600
Speaker 1: over and over again. That's what I thought. The week

451
00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:39,359
Speaker 1: Covenant happened. I couldnot open it because I was like,

452
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,919
Speaker 1: I cannot keep reliving it because I'm living it in

453
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 1: my daily, daily life right now. So you know. It's

454
00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: but I think for the user who's putting stuff up,

455
00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: they feel like they're doing something by like saying something,

456
00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 1: and it is kind of performed. We have to remember

457
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,760
Speaker 1: it's performative, you know, like unless you're also taking action

458
00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: on the other side of your post. Yeah, then it's

459
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,840
Speaker 1: kind of a pointless, like empty thing that you're doing.

460
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: We said that last week. Yeah, it could started to

461
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: kind of frustrate me because I do feel that it's like, Okay,

462
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 1: I did my thing. I posted that number to call

463
00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,639
Speaker 1: or whatever. Great that you did that, but call it

464
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: and what else? Yeah, I hope you called it too,

465
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: but like and what else? Um, well to kind of

466
00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:24,600
Speaker 1: like tie this up. I want to ask really quick,

467
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:27,479
Speaker 1: have you tried be Real, this new social media network?

468
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: Have you heard about it? There's another one, it's called

469
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:32,680
Speaker 1: I downloaded it months ago, and I think I've done one.

470
00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: It's called be Real and it's the way that it works.

471
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,920
Speaker 1: And I'm like, this isn't me advertising it because I

472
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: don't think I'll ever use it. I'm just curious if

473
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,840
Speaker 1: anyone like I've never even heard of it. So it's

474
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: called be Real, and I'll get a notification. It's like,

475
00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: you have two minutes to be real. Shut up. Then,

476
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,040
Speaker 1: so you you're supposed to just like you take a

477
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: photo and it takes a foot It's like it uses

478
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 1: both of your cameras, so it takes a picture of

479
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,040
Speaker 1: where you are and a picture of you, and it's

480
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: you can't edit it, and then you god, I actually

481
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: loved it. So it's like it is actually in the moment,

482
00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: you can I mean, if you're at the beach, you

483
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:08,720
Speaker 1: can be like I'm in the beach. It's like a

484
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,719
Speaker 1: small photo of your face where you are. I mean,

485
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 1: I'm sure that you too. It'll all get tainted though, right,

486
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: So this is what I was going to say, and

487
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: this actually that's a first of all, I love that

488
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna look into it just just because I'm curious. Um,

489
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: But I told you earlier. One of the first podcast

490
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: or the first podcast I did this month was with

491
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,479
Speaker 1: Marv and he just keeps reiterating over and over that

492
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: we are in a time of change, Like things are

493
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,280
Speaker 1: not going to go back to the way they are,

494
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,640
Speaker 1: every the way they were. Everything is being amplified right

495
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: now and all of the like structures that don't work

496
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:46,640
Speaker 1: or that we've outgrown or that we've somehow messed up

497
00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: are gonna become like become very apparent to us and um,

498
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 1: and not to fight that, but to lean in, to

499
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,480
Speaker 1: ask questions, to look where we can change, and to

500
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: look where we can serve and maybe where we've kind

501
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:03,520
Speaker 1: of gotten off kilter. And I keep like, over and

502
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: over and over, so many of the different healers I've

503
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 1: seen have talked about social media and like just how

504
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: maybe it is time to kind of examine, Like we're

505
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: not saying social media is going to go. I don't

506
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 1: think it is right now, although I keep seeing that

507
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 1: Twitter's done, but like Twitter today, yeah, a lot of

508
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: people are, but I don't know so I don't know

509
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: what'll happen. Maybe that's at the beginning of this kind

510
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: of like demise, But either way, I do think that

511
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,359
Speaker 1: for our own sanity and mental health and what we're

512
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,800
Speaker 1: obviously seeing in our culture of people struggling, it's just

513
00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 1: smart to ask questions. We talk about this all the

514
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: time on the podcast, and if this is a time

515
00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: where things are changing, like how can we do this better?

516
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: And in your own life, how can you protect your brain?

517
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,120
Speaker 1: Like how can you better serve yourself on the day

518
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 1: to day? Like is it the people you follow? Is

519
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 1: it how long you're on there? Is it being conscious

520
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: of what you're consuming like or even putting out there

521
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: and presenting. And I think it's hard to be real.

522
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: I think, I mean, even though we say we want

523
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: that all the time, we've been trained now to perform right,

524
00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: and nobody wants to be the one person not performing well.

525
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 1: There's also I mean, I think it's probably a problem

526
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 1: that's as old as time. It's like how many times

527
00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,159
Speaker 1: have someone asked you how are you doing today? And

528
00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,879
Speaker 1: you're like, I'm crying. Yeah, it's great, everything's great. No

529
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 1: it's not, But no one wants the real answer anyway,

530
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 1: like they want you to say that, right unless it's

531
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 1: a real friend. And I also think too, it's like

532
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: when people really want the answer, they're like, how are you?

533
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: You know, it's like a different they ask it in

534
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 1: a different way. You know, it's like just a you know,

535
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: a normal hi, how are you? Like nobody wants you

536
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: to start loading their shit on that something. Yeah, but

537
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: maybe we should start being more honest with each other,

538
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 1: you knows, I give a little more of a truthful answer, like,

539
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, this week's been rough, but I'm working through

540
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,000
Speaker 1: it once up at a time or like something like that,

541
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: like because it opens the door for a real conversation

542
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,600
Speaker 1: totally going on, like do we actually want to even

543
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 1: know each other? You know, like that where's real intimacy

544
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 1: any more? Anyway, these are taking us off on so

545
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: many tangents. I could go on and on about it forever.

546
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: Obvious social media and covid obviously. Um. But next week

547
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,040
Speaker 1: I am going to have on UM. I've been talking

548
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: a little bit about the narrow feedback therapy that I've

549
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: been doing, and my brain therapist is what I call her.

550
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,239
Speaker 1: She's going to come on the podcast, and so I'm

551
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: gonna make sure to bring this topic up with her

552
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: and like what effects they are seeing of social media

553
00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: on the brain? Um. But I do just think it's

554
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: like when we're talking so much about gun violence, and

555
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 1: there's so many arguments, like it's the guns, it's mental health,

556
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 1: it's probably all of it, and so I guess it

557
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,360
Speaker 1: only starts with one. You know, we can only start

558
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 1: with ourselves, And so my whole point of even asking

559
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 1: these questions is just to say, like are you okay?

560
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: And like are you taking care of you? Um? We

561
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 1: could sit here and talk about all this shit all day,

562
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,240
Speaker 1: but like we're not actually trying to influence you, We're

563
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 1: just trying to start conversations. Yeah. I look, it's funny

564
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 1: because I read about that NPR thing this morning, and

565
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: this is prior to us knowing what we're gonna do. NPR.

566
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 1: I think they have like a Twitter. They quit Twitter, Yeah,

567
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,680
Speaker 1: and if they have like one hundred and forty different handles,

568
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 1: I could be wrong, maybe it's forty something like that.

569
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: But because Twitter deemed them, um, like a product of

570
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: like they're like state media is basically what they called it.

571
00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 1: But they're not. They're an independent body that is funded

572
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: by the government. Yeah, um, it's public funding. Um. But

573
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: because of that, they're like, that's not what we are.

574
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: We're not gonna we're not gonna participate. But it made

575
00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:40,240
Speaker 1: me think like I should just fucking delete Twitter. And

576
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: I went on there and I got all the way

577
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: to like delete, and then it was like this is

578
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: you'll lose your handle, And I was like, oh, what

579
00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: if it ever comes back, you know, like even if

580
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,040
Speaker 1: you never get my handle, there's another chip doors I

581
00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: mean probably yeah, yeah, maybe I guess I could just

582
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,440
Speaker 1: delete everything that I'm following. You could just still lead

583
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,200
Speaker 1: the apps, you can never open it. I don't know.

584
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: I keep thinking about deleting TikTok because I never get

585
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,960
Speaker 1: on there, and I'm like scared people are stealing my

586
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 1: information because of other things on me, Like I don't

587
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: even know what's real anymore. I'm like, is that happening?

588
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 1: Are we? Like? But isn't it happening other places too?

589
00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,520
Speaker 1: Like it just none of it makes There's no chance

590
00:31:21,560 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't because when I speak things and then get

591
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 1: served ads for them, I'm like, obviously they're listening, Like

592
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: it doesn't. Yeah, So I don't know, but I think

593
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 1: it's we can't think about all of it all at once,

594
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: or I can't. I have to just do one thing

595
00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: at a time. Yeah, And so reading that influencing article

596
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,360
Speaker 1: was so validating for me because I was like, I'm

597
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: not alone, which is always the best feeling in our

598
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 1: culture when I think someone does get real um and

599
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 1: just say here's what happened to me. And and it

600
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: just brought the social media to the forefront again because

601
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 1: we've been talking so much about mental health and gun

602
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: violence and why why we're all so fucked in the head,

603
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, here's one thing we can look

604
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: at it, right, why not? YEA, Well it's funny, I mean,

605
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 1: like when you were just saying that, Like, I remember

606
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: when I quit my first job, my first real adult job,

607
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: was it Atlantic Records. My whole life all I want

608
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: to do was work for Atlantic Records. And I got

609
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:17,520
Speaker 1: there and I did it for six years and I

610
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,080
Speaker 1: was I had success there and I was climbing the

611
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: corporate ladder. But then I wasn't happy anymore and I

612
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 1: didn't want to be there, and there was a big

613
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: round of layoffs coming and I was like, here is

614
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,400
Speaker 1: this my chance to like have a little like of

615
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,800
Speaker 1: a parachute, like I can leave and not feel like

616
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: I'm just like leaving them in the lurch, and get

617
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: a little bit of money and do all the things.

618
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: And the night that I decided to do it, like

619
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: I was, I'm convulsive and shaking and crying uncontrollably in

620
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,480
Speaker 1: my floor of my bedroom. Yeah, because it was really

621
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: cathartic but scary at the same time. And I would

622
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 1: imagine it's not dissimilar to what letting go of something

623
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: like influencing when it has been your livelihood. Oh my god,

624
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: because you as a person have changed what you want

625
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 1: out of life, but you feel like you have to

626
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: be this thing that people want you to be, and

627
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: whether it's you're sitting at a desk job. I thought

628
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 1: that from the outside it was going to look like

629
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: to my parents that I had failed, that you know,

630
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: just in general, that I had failed. And it took

631
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot of like talking to myself and to friends

632
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: to be like, wait a minute, I achieved exactly what

633
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 1: I said out. It had served you and it had

634
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 1: served me, and it was time for a new chapter.

635
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: And I think, like we need to look at everything

636
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 1: in our life and be like does this serve me

637
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 1: any longer? Whether it's social media relationships, a job, yea politics,

638
00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:44,400
Speaker 1: the fucking gun that you have that you don't want?

639
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: Are these things? Say? Are they actually what I love that?

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Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that too, because I think I

641
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:52,880
Speaker 1: don't know that I was even fully aware until you

642
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,280
Speaker 1: just said that. But it has been really hard and

643
00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: like I said to see you before we got on

644
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 1: the podcast, like so much shifted during COVID work wise

645
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: for me or whatever, um, but so much of what

646
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:09,240
Speaker 1: I've lost has been because I'm stepping away from collaborating

647
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: and like posting about brands or posting about my outfits

648
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: because like you said, it's not that it doesn't serve.

649
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: I still love fashion, it just some of it feels

650
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,800
Speaker 1: dense to me and I'm like, what am I actually

651
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:26,600
Speaker 1: contributing with this? And like am I doing it? I

652
00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,919
Speaker 1: don't know, but but it takes a big financial like yes,

653
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: it's been We're like we're we have been conditioned to

654
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: believe that money buys happiness, right, and it can certainly

655
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: buy comfort, It can buy some happy earness, which is

656
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: always my retorted because my mother's been saying since I

657
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 1: was a kid, money does not buy happiness. I'm like,

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00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 1: it's happy earness yeah, um, and which I don't. I

659
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 1: don't just I believe that is true and it's less

660
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: it is not the answer. Yeah, I've had to start

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00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:07,160
Speaker 1: saying to myself because I have started to stress because

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00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: of some of the foundational things that I've been doing,

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00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,239
Speaker 1: like and some of those things were just more consistent,

664
00:35:13,280 --> 00:35:16,880
Speaker 1: like my job is a freelancer isn't consistent either, And

665
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,919
Speaker 1: so it's when you let go of your I don't

666
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: want to say backup plan necessarily, but I felt like

667
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,439
Speaker 1: I had a little more control over this stuff, like

668
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: and I'm not saying I won't go back to doing

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00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: some stuff if I feel like it's contributing something positive,

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00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 1: Like I think I am just so conscious right now

671
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a part of more noise,

672
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 1: Like is this important? Is it worth it? Is it

673
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:43,360
Speaker 1: serving me in some way? Like you said? Is it

674
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,719
Speaker 1: creative expression? Is it like fun? Is it? What? Like?

675
00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: What is this? But what I keep saying to myself

676
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,360
Speaker 1: about the money part when I start to really stress

677
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: is like I've always been provided for, I will always

678
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 1: be provided for, and I just keep manifesting that, like

679
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 1: and putting that energy behind it, and there are times

680
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: where it's a little more stressful and I was living

681
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,400
Speaker 1: way more cush be honest, like that is the truth.

682
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: And but as you said, when I was making the

683
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,920
Speaker 1: most money I've ever made in my life, I literally

684
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: almost had a nervous bread right, I mean not almost,

685
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: I essentially think I did. And because it was all

686
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: just too much or it served its purpose and now

687
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 1: that's got to shift into something more real for me,

688
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: because that's who I am truly on the inside. Anyway,

689
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know that social media ever really

690
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: can fully. It didn't for me fully capture all of

691
00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 1: the pieces of me. I don't feel. Um maybe that

692
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,640
Speaker 1: was just I didn't know how to do that, but

693
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: or maybe I made that up. I don't know, y'all. Anyway,

694
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,000
Speaker 1: it's really easy to get wrapped up at it because

695
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,400
Speaker 1: of the validation that comes from it. Well, it was

696
00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,960
Speaker 1: a business, so you just to me, I'm more so

697
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: I felt like I'm showing up and doing my job right, Like,

698
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,920
Speaker 1: just like I throw myself into every job I have.

699
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 1: I'm a very like it's important to me to feel

700
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,359
Speaker 1: like I've done my best work all the time. But

701
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it just got to a place where

702
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: it's like, Okay, I want to be a little more

703
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: protective of that, and like, is it bringing positivity to

704
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 1: my brain to even my self esteem? And no it

705
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: hasn't been, So is that the right thing for me

706
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: to be doing. I don't know, And I don't think,

707
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: like you said, I don't know that we have any answers,

708
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 1: but we're just asking ourselves these questions. And I actually

709
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 1: would love to hear how you guys are feeling about

710
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: social media in general, Like is this something only we

711
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: feel like? Do you feel like this is on a

712
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: bigger scale influencing our culture, like gun violence and things

713
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: like that are contributing to the mental health issues that

714
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: we're having. Well, you know, it's funny. It's not lost

715
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: on me that probably most of the people that are

716
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: listening here are here because they've found you on social media,

717
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So it's yeah, it'll be

718
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 1: interesting to get sort of that feedback because you know,

719
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 1: I would also imagine that they're probably giving less of

720
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:11,040
Speaker 1: you because the algitha, how you're not posting as much. Well,

721
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: I don't like I used to even post videos about

722
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,319
Speaker 1: these podcasts and like I definitely see our numbers be

723
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 1: different when I post on my social media because people forget,

724
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: of course, that's just the thing that they're being served

725
00:38:21,239 --> 00:38:22,840
Speaker 1: things all over the place. Yeah, and that's all we

726
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: always say, is like subscribe. Like this is not really

727
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 1: trying to be so bad, but it is true. Like

728
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily post about not necessarily, I really don't

729
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,560
Speaker 1: post about many podcasts even anymore. Um and I need

730
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 1: to look at that. But I just needed to guard

731
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 1: my heart, that's the truth. Like I have not been

732
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: able to like have the exposure right now, like it's

733
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 1: too much for me. Um And so I'm just trying

734
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 1: to be more conscious of that. But yeah, I just

735
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: think it is an interesting conversation. Yeah, And if you're

736
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: trying to avoid social media, you can email us. You

737
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,720
Speaker 1: can send us a snail man, send us a pision

738
00:38:58,040 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: with your letter. M know. Our email is the edge

739
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: at Velvet's Edge dot com. If you do feel like

740
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 1: logging into Instagram, I am at Velvet's Edge. I do

741
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: still check my dms. By the way, it's a form

742
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 1: of communication. It is point well, it's how I stay

743
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 1: in touch with our listeners a lot of times too.

744
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,840
Speaker 1: So there's parts of it that I love and like

745
00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 1: I've met so many people and so many of you

746
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 1: guys that how would I've ever met these people? And

747
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,360
Speaker 1: like we've connected on real stories like how would I

748
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: that would never have happened? You know? So it does

749
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: have positive Yeah, we just gotta like I think it's

750
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,719
Speaker 1: just more about like being conscious and protecting yourself. Well,

751
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: I think you have to figure out the way that

752
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: it works for you good, you know, but it is hard.

753
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 1: That's easier said than done because it's very addictive. Yeah,

754
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: I've I've could knock it off my phone before and

755
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:51,720
Speaker 1: then I'm like catch myself at work on my computer

756
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,560
Speaker 1: on Instagram dot com, like look at you. It's because

757
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,280
Speaker 1: your brain's telling you you need it. Yeah. So anyway,

758
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: if you want to find me on there, I'm like

759
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:09,840
Speaker 1: follow up, swipe up. I'm at chip Dorp. Dr sh

760
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: Your influencer game is old school because nobody slips up anymore. Okay, Um, well,

761
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,400
Speaker 1: I actually have a direct request for you from a

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00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:24,400
Speaker 1: hill for you. No no, no from me. Okay, I

763
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 1: was gonna say I'm gonna do this, but could you

764
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 1: send the listeners out on a song note as well?

765
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: As we do this. Yes, yeah, because I think everyone

766
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:44,720
Speaker 1: needs it. Everyone All right, Well, are you going to harmonize? Sure,

767
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 1: let's see what happens um As you guys go into

768
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 1: the weekend and you're living on the edge, I hope

769
00:40:52,239 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: you always remember to better in person. Okay By